Derbyshire Submariners Newsletter Issue Number 169 NOVEMBER 2013

Freedom of the City of Derby to RN Submarine Service Granted 28 April 2002

EDITORIAL LIST OF CONTENTS

Engineering Technician (MESM) Page/s Content Christopher Payne, HMS/M Triumph Chris Payne, 22, was killed instantly in 1 CONTENT & EDITORIAL a motor cycle crash on the B6179 Derby Road near Coxbench on 2 WORLD S/M NEWS 5 Sept 2013 after failing to negotiate a bend near the A38 3 / 4 UN PC PAGE HUMOUR bridge. Christopher, a MEM, (Strictly for Adults & Matelots ) had just returned home from HMS Triumph in Plymouth that day. RIP Full Report Page 12 5 DERBY & DISTRICT EX SVC MEETING y Appeals for Help, Royal Navy Folk Singers

Don’t Forget Terry Hall Mobile 6 DERBYSHIRE POLICE REPORTS To Change Your (07979) 424680 Committed to the Nokia Clocks Back 1 Hour Dead Phone Berth. If you 7 JEFF BACON © CARTOONS/Bits & Bobs Sunday 27 October require no. please advise Obit Tom Clancy & Tribute to Fishermen Trafalgar Dinner has come and gone (again), and everyone seems to have enjoyed the event. It was wonderful to have 8 SA & SUBMARINE WORLD NEWS Cdr Justin Codd the Commanding Officer of Derby’s adopted Submarine Ambush as our Special Guest. As DS Members 9 THOUGHTS TO PONDER ON! are aware I always advise that as the organiser I exclude myself from the voting for the Prestigious Submariner. It 10 COMMENTS ON THE TRIDENT however appears there was some (OK, a lot of) connivance and members were told it was a free vote. Which came as a 11 ARTFUL NUTS OVER SUB’S MASCOT & pleasant surprise to me; but thank you to you all for the vote OBITUARY MESM CHRIS PAYNE of confidence, and I accepted the trophy in the spirit for which you voted. I do not need thanks for what I do for DS, I am as 12 DCC/TRADING STANDARDS REPORTS proud as you to belong to this wonderful group of

Submariners. See Tony’s views on the event on page 17 13 TS KENYA INSPECTION/LUNCH CLUBS Now Trafalgar Dinner is done and dusted, (See also page 18/19 ), we move onto our next event of Christmas Lunch . 14 THE BURIAL OF THE BUNTINGS BADGE The bookings are already a healthy over 20; but I could do with final bookings for the Fri 6 December 2013 event at the 15 TRAFALGAR DINNER By Tony Greaves Toby Carvery, The Park, Chaddesden. We have changed to a Friday in the hope those who work can get an afternoon off 16 THE LAST POST/REMBRANCE DERBY or even just pop down at Lunchtime between Noon and half past for a social drink prior to the Lunch. Last year we were at capacity for the room with 30 bookings so please book early 17 LUNCH CLUB CONSULTATION/XMAS!

Lunch Clubs continue to be the DS success event every 18/19 TRAF DINNER/WRNS COFFEE MORNING month. Please see the article on Page 13 and 17 on plans for 2014 including the request that as in January this year we fill a 20 DS DIARY 2013 fallow period, and celebrate the New Year with a bonus Lunch

Club on Weds 8 Jan 2014 at the Queens Head, Ockbrook. We will be Passing the Port for a Loyal Toast and to welcome in the New Year.

As we go to press I am extremely busy with Poppy Appeal but BI RTHDAYS 2013 A POSITIVE THOUGHT I hope to see many of you at the various Derby Services & FOR THE MONTH 03 Nov Judy Holland especially the Social at 11:15 on Monday 11 November at the 04 Nov Stan Smart Jubilee Club where we are hosting all the ex Services and Birthdays are good for 09 Nov Colin Watson hope for the pleasure of the Captain of HMS/M Ambush too. YOU ; 12 Nov Jenny Williamson

Terry Hall, Newsletter Editor The more you have, 09 Dec Andy Law Derbyshire Submariners the longer you live 20 Dec John Arthur

1 WORLD SUBMARINE MARITIME NEWS CRIMINAL CASE OPENED OVER RUSSIAN SUB FIRE New York Times, 16 Sept & RIA Novosti, 17 Sept 2013 SUB TRIALS ON HOLD AFTER BULAVA FAILURE The Russian government has launched a criminal Barents Observer, 09 September 2013 investigation into the cause of a fire that occurred on a Last week's test failure of a Bulava submarine launched docked nuclear submarine near the Far Eastern port of ballistic missile (SLBM) has apparently lead to the Vladivostok on Monday. Reports suggest that weapons had postponement of trials for the Russian Navy's two newest been removed and the reactors shutdown on board the K- submarines. Reports indicate that a Bulava SLBM was fired 150 Tomsk submarine prior to the blaze, since the Project toward the Kura test site in Kamchatka during trials of the 949A/Oscar-II-class cruise-missile submarine was nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) undergoing repairs. Statements by officials from the United Alexander Nevsky in the White Sea on Friday. It was the Shipbuilding Corporation suggested that the fire may have first test launch from that submarine, and the missile been sparked by welding, though an investigative committee experienced a failure during one of its initial phases, and fell from the Defence Ministry says it appears that an ‘abuse of back into Arctic Ocean. Russian Defence Minister Sergey office’ may have led to ‘safety violations’ that directly led to Shoygu ordered to halt state trials of the Borey-class boats the fire. The past two years have seen a spate of fires on Alexander Nevsky and Vladimir Monomakh following the board docked submarines globally, including last month's failed test, including five further test launches of the troubled deadly incident involving the Indian diesel-electric attack SLBM. Public sources suggest that eight of the 20 tests of submarine Sindhurakshak, a March 2012 fire on the nuclear the Bulava have failed since they began in 2004, though powered attack boat USS Miami, and a fire in December some experts believe the failure rate may be much higher. 2011 on the Russian submarine Yekaterinburg. Reports suggest that the next tests will be carried out from Sindhurakshak was completely destroyed, while Miami has the older Typhoon-class submarine Dmitry Donskoy, and since been scrapped, and Yekaterinberg is said to be slated that the handover to the navy of the Borey-class boats will for repair. be delayed, as their service is dependent on the success of the Bulava missile. ROYAL NAVY SAYS HUGE SIZE OF ITS NEW AUSTRALIA FEARS OF FURTHER DELAYS TO THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER WILL BE A DETERRENT NATION'S BIGGEST DEFENCE PROJECT Guardian, 19 September 2013 The Australian, 19 September 2013 The captain of the British Royal Navy's new Queen The head of the Australian Shipbuilding Corporation (ASC) Elizabeth-class aircraft carrier has countered criticism of the says the Royal Australian Navy's (RAN) Air Warfare massive procurement project by suggested that the vast size Destroyer (AWD) procurement program has been plagued of the ships, the largest ever fielded by the RN, will have a by problems associated with ongoing revisions to the ships' important symbolic and deterrent effect on potential design by Spanish design firm Navantia. The chief executive adversaries. Navy officials say the ships are necessary for of shipbuilder at ASC said the building of the vessels was the full realization of defence policy and national objectives hampered by these changes, which have exceeded for the Navy, and demonstrate national interest and resolve expectations in terms of original estimates, and risked in theatres of operation. The project has faced various delaying the delivery date of the ships. The three, 6,500 controversies, including with regard to which variant of the tonne destroyers have already been delayed by two years F35 fighter it will be configured to deploy, as well as huge because of design changes and other building issues, which cost overruns; the two ships' cost are now estimated at USD resulted in disputes between the Department of Defence and $8.8 billion, almost $3.2b more than initial estimates. Aside the shipbuilders. Commentators say that they hope the from their large size, at more than 65,000 tonnes and 300 problems with the AWD will help inform future procurement metres in length, the ships will be highly automated, which projects, particularly the RAN's future submarine program. will help to reduce the number of crew required. Current plans suggest each ship will need just 679 officers and crew, SUBMARINE BLAZE ON RUSSIAN SUBMARINE though officials admit that studies are ongoing, and this Monday 16 September 2013 number could increase. The first ship, HMS Queen No injuries or radiation leaks are reported after blaze on Elizabeth, is expected to enter service in 2020. Editor : I Tomsk submarine in Bolshoi Kamen. A fire has broken out just hope the Captain does not see the day he regrets his on a Russian nuclear submarine undergoing repairs, but no words. I wonder if the same was said about the Repulse injuries or radiation leaks have been reported. Russian and the Prince of Wales in the Far East prior to sailing from news reports said the fire on the Tomsk submarine at repair the UK as Force Z in 1941. With many Navies having such yards in the Pacific coast city of Bolshoi Kamen had been sophisticated submarines, or even very small Dieso boats extinguished with foam on Monday. The Tomsk, capable of which are ultra quiet; the temptation of such a target will be firing cruise missiles, has been undergoing repairs since every Submarine Skippers ultimate dream, and boy, what a 2010. Reports said all its weaponry had been removed and target that if you got close enough, it would be hard to miss! the reactor was shut down, although it was not clear if any nuclear material remained in the reactor. The Tomsk is of the same class as the nuclear submarine Kursk, which sank DEVELOPMENT OF CHINA'S FOURTH-GENERATION in 2001 in the Barents Sea after an explosion, killing all 118 NUCLEAR SUBMARINE COMPLETED people on board Peoples Daily Online 25 Sept 2013 By Agencies At the recent 2013 Conference China State Shipbuilding U.S. NAVY FINDS THAT DEMAND FOR SUBMARINES Corporation, revealed that development of China's fourth- FAR OUTWEIGHS SUPPLY generation nuclear submarines and other high-tech weapons CBS News, 14 September 2013 and items of equipment was complete. The fourth The US Navy and the House Armed Services Committee generation nuclear submarine features high performance Subcommittee on Seapower are warning that the Navy's and low noise and compared with earlier submarines, differ current plans to build submarines are insufficient to replace significantly in offensive power, possessing both anti- vessels at the rate they are being retired, and the force will submarine capabilities and also strong potential for anti-ship become stretched over the next 15 years. Concerned action and attacks on land-based targets. In addition, Song officials say that the current fleet of 55 submarines will drop Xiaojun points out that the United States, Russia, Britain and below an early stated goal of 48 vessels in 2025 as the France all possess modern strategic nuclear submarines as current Los Angeles class is retired, and observers fear that a symbol of their status as 'Great Powers'; it is natural that funding may not be sufficient to fully realize the incoming China should be unwilling to lag behind and this was a Virginia-class attack submarine and Ohio-class replacement significant enhancement of nuclear counterattack capability ballistic missile submarine programs. 2 THE UNUN----PCPC PAGES When Asked In Class ; Why do women live a better, longer and a more peaceful life than men? A very Short But Sweet Submariners Humour . A civvy walks Intelligent student replied: Because women don't have into the a crowded bar full to the brim brandishing a wives! revolver yelling, ‘Who's the bastard that's been sleeping with my wife?’ A submariner from the back of the bar Husband To His Wife : Darling, I've invited a mate home shouts back: ‘You don't have enough ammo, mate!!’ for supper. Wife: What? Are you crazy? The house is a mess, I haven't been shopping, all the dishes are dirty and Always Ask, Never Assume! His request approved, the I don't feel like cooking a fancy meal! Husband: I know all BBC News photographer quickly used his mobile phone to that. Wife: Then why did you invite a mate home for call the local airport to charter a flight. He was told a twin- supper? Husband: Because the poor guy is thinking of engine plane would be waiting for him at the airport. getting married! Arriving at the airfield, he spotted a plane warming up outside a hanger. He jumped in with his bag, slammed the A Husband and his Wife went to the Doctor. The Doctor door shut, and shouted, 'Let's go'. The pilot taxied out, took the Husband in first. The Husband was a bit swung the plane into the wind and took off. Once in the embarrassed and told the Doctor he had trouble getting an air, the photographer instructed the pilot, 'Fly over the Erection with his Wife and she was getting frustrated. He Derwent valley and make low passes over the dams so I checked his Blood Pressure and other things, and finally can take pictures of the fires on the hillsides.' 'Why?' told him he would see his Wife now. He took her to asked the pilot. 'Because I'm a photographer for the BBC' another cubicle and told her to completely disrobe. Then he responded, 'and I need to get some close up shots.' he told her to turn all the way around slowly. She did as The pilot was strangely silent for a moment, finally he instructed. He then told her to turn all the way around in stammered, 'So, what you're telling me, is; You're NOT the other direction. Then he said; Ok you can get dressed my flight instructor?' now, I will talk to your Husband. Then the Doctor went into the other office and told the Husband; You can relax! Two Boys were walking home from Sunday school after There is nothing wrong with you, I couldn't get an Erection hearing a strong preaching on the devil. One said to the either!! other, 'What do you think about all this Satan stuff?' The other boy replied, 'Well, you know how Santa Claus turned I Was Telling A Girl called Linda in the pub about my out. It's probably just your Dad.' ability to guess what day a woman was born just by feeling her boobs. ‘Really’ she said, ‘Go on then...try.’ After about Attending a Wedding for the first time, a little girl thirty seconds of fondling she began to lose patience and whispered to her mother, 'Why is the bride dressed in said. ‘Come on, what day was I born’? I said, ‘Yesterday.’ white?'' The mother replied, 'Because white is the colour of happiness, and today is the happiest day of her life.' Two Ladies met at the pearly gates, both surprised to see The child thought about this for a moment then said, 'So the other: Sylvia: Hi! Wanda. Wanda: Hi! Sylvia. How'd why is the groom wearing black?' you die? Sylvia: I froze to death. Wanda: How horrible! Sylvia: It wasn't so bad. After I quit shaking from the cold, A Police Recruit was asked during the exam, 'What would I began to get warm & sleepy, and finally died a peaceful you do if you had to arrest your own mother in law?' He death. What about you? Wanda: I died answered, 'Call for backup.' of a massive heart attack. I suspected A Sunday School Teacher asked her class why Joseph that my husband was cheating, so I and Mary took Jesus with them to Jerusalem. A small came home early to catch him in the child replied, 'They couldn't get a baby-sitter.' act. But instead, I found him all by himself just watching TV. Sylvia: So, She Then Began discussing the Ten Commandments with what happened? Wanda: I was so her five and six year olds. After explaining the sure there was another woman there commandment to 'Honour thy father and thy mother,' she somewhere that I started running all asked, 'Is there a commandment that teaches us how to over the house looking. I ran up into treat our brothers and sisters?' Without missing a beat, the attic and searched, and down into the cellar. Then I one little boy answered, 'Thou shall not kill..' went through every wardrobe and checked under all the beds. I kept this up until I had looked everywhere, and No Speak English A German woman married a English finally I became so exhausted that I just keeled over with a gentleman born in Truro and they lived happily ever after in heart attack and died. Sylvia: Too bad you didn't look in his home town, Truro. The poor lady was not very the freezer; we'd both still be alive. proficient in English, but she did manage to communicate with her husband. The real problem arose whenever she Judge to Prostitute . When did you realise you had been had to shop for groceries. One day, she went to the raped? When the cheque bounced your Honour . butcher counter and wanted to buy chicken legs. She didn't know how to put forward her request, so, in Virus Warning . A highly dangerous virus called Weekly desperation, clucked like a chicken and lifted up her skirt to Overload Recreation Killer (WORK) is currently going show her thighs. Her butcher got the message and gave Around. If you come into contact with this work virus, you her the chicken legs. Next day she needed to get chicken should immediately go to the nearest Biological Anxiety breasts. Again she didn't know how to say it, so she Relief (BAR) Centre to take antidotes knows as Work clucked like a chicken and unbuttoned her blouse to show Isolating Neutralising Extract (WINE) or Radioactive the butcher her breasts. The butcher understood again Uniwork Medicine (RUM) or Bothersome Employer and gave her some chicken breasts. On the 3rd day, the Elimination Rebooter (BEER) or as a last resort Vaccine poor lady needed to buy sausages. Unable to find a way to Official Depression Killing Antigen (VODKA). It should be communicate this, she brought her husband to the store. noted that these actions are only temporary fixes for a long What were you thinking? Her husband speaks English!! time problem!

3 Pay Your Bills . Once upon a time there lived a beautiful Once Upon A Time , in the Kingdom of Heaven, God Queen with queenly large breasts. Nick the Dragon went missing for six days. Eventually, Archangel Michael Slayer (An ex Tiff ) was obsessed over the Queen for this found him on the seventh day, resting. He enquired of reason. He knew that the penalty for his desire would be God, 'Where have you been?' God pointed downwards death should he try to touch them, but he had to try. One through the clouds. Archangel Michael looked puzzled day Nick revealed his secret desire to his colleague, and said, 'What is it?' It's a planet, replied God, and I've Horatio the Physician, the King's chief doctor. Horatio put Life on it. I'm going to call it Earth and it's going to be thought about this and said that he could arrange for Nick a great place of balance.' 'Balance?' inquired Michael, to more than satisfy his desire, but it would cost him 1000 still confused. God explained, pointing down to different gold coins to arrange it. ( At present day rate of exchange parts of the Earth. 'For example, North America will be a that is £100 and a bottle of Pusser’s Rum ) Without place of great opportunity and wealth, while South pause, Nick readily agreed to the scheme. The next day, America is going to be poor; the Middle East over there Horatio made a batch of itching powder and poured a will be a hot spot, and Russia will be a cold spot. Over little bit into the Queen's bra while she bathed. Soon there I've placed a continent of white people and over after she dressed, the itching commenced and grew there is a continent of black people.' God continued, intense. Upon being summoned to the Royal Chambers pointing to the different countries. This one will be to address this incident, Horatio informed the King and extremely hot and arid while this one will be very cold and Queen that only a special saliva, if applied for four hours, covered in ice.' The archangel, impressed by God's would cure this type of itch, and that tests had shown work, then pointed to another area of land and asked, that, among all of the citizens of the kingdom, only the 'What's that?' 'Ah,' said God. That's the North of saliva of Nick would work as the antidote to cure the itch. England, the most glorious place on Earth. There are The King, eager to help his Queen, quickly summoned beautiful people and many impressive cities; it is the Nick to their chambers. Horatio then slipped Nick the home of the world's finest artists, musicians, writers, antidote for the itching powder, which he put into his thinkers, explorers and politicians. The people from the mouth, and for the next four hours, Nick worked North of England are going to be modest, intelligent and passionately on the Queen's large and magnificent humorous, brew the best beer in the world and they're breasts. The Queen's itching was eventually relieved, going to be found travelling the world. They'll be and Nick left satisfied and was hailed by both the King extremely sociable, hard-working and high-achieving, and and Queen as a hero. Upon returning to his chamber, they will be known throughout the world as speakers of Nick found Horatio demanding his payment of 1000 gold truth.' Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then coins. With his obsession now satisfied, Nick couldn't proclaimed, 'What about balance God, you said there will have cared less knowing that Horatio could never report be Balance !' God replied very wisely, 'Wait till you see this matter to the King and with a laugh told him to get the bunch of tosser’s I'm putting down South to govern stuffed. The next day, Horatio slipped a massive dose of the country!' the same itching powder into the King's underwear. The King immediately summoned Nick to his chambers. In A Private Hospital , a gentleman had made several attempts to get into the men's toilet, but it had always been The moral of the story is do not lie, or screw your mates! occupied. A nurse noticed his predicament. Sir, she said

‘You may use the ladies room if you promise not to touch Romantic or What? A wife, being the romantic sort, any of the buttons on the wall.’ He did what he needed to, sent her husband the following text message: If you are and as he sat there he noticed the buttons he had promised sleeping, send me your dreams. If you not to touch. Each button was identified by letters: WW, WA, are laughing, send me your smile. If you PP, and a red one labelled ATR. Who would know if he are eating, send me a bite. If you are touched them? He couldn't resist. He pushed WW. Warm drinking, send me a sip. If you are water was sprayed gently upon his bottom. What a nice crying, send me your tears. I Love You! felling, he thought. Men restrooms don't have nice things The husband, typically non-romantic, replied: I am on the like this. Anticipating greater pleasure, he pushed the WA toilet. Please advise? button. Warm air replaced the warm water, gently drying his underside. When this stopped, he pushed the PP button. A Two Old Guys , One an 80 year old ex Tiff, and one a 87 large powder puff caressed his bottom adding a fragile scent an ex Chief Sparker, were sitting on a park bench one of spring flower to this unbelievable pleasure. The ladies morning. The Chief Sparker had just finished his morning powder room was more than a restroom, it is tender loving jog, and wasn't even short of breath. The Chief Tiff was pleasure. When the powder puff completed its pleasure, he amazed at the Sparkers stamina, and asked him what he couldn't wait to push the ATR button which he knew would did to have so much energy. The Chief Sparker said, be supreme ecstasy. Next thing he knew he opened his eyes, he was in a hospital bed, and a nurse was staring ‘Well, I eat rye bread every day. It keeps your energy down at him very sternly. ‘What happened?’ he exclaimed. level high and you'll have great stamina with the ladies.’ The last thing I remember was pushing the ATR button. ‘Sir, So, on the way home the Chief Tiff stopped at the bakery. the button ATR is an Automatic Tampon Remover . Your As he was looking around, the saleslady asked if he penis is under your pillow.’ needed any help. He said, ‘Do you have any rye bread?’ She said, ‘Yes, there's a whole shelf of it.’ He said, ‘I An Afghan Diplomat visiting the US for the first time was want five loaves.’ She said, ‘My goodness, 5 loaves! By being wined and dined by the State Department. The the time you get to the 3rd loaf, it'll be so hard you won't diplomat was not used to the salt in American foods know what do with it.’ ‘I can't believe it,’ the old Tiff (French fries, cheeses, salami, anchovies, etc.) and was replied, ‘Everybody knows about this, except me’ constantly sending his manservant Abdul to fetch him a glass of water. Time and again Abdul would scamper off Life is Like A Hot Bath and return with a glass of water, but then came the time The longer you stay in it, The more wrinkled you get. when he returned empty handed. Abdul, you son of an ugly camel, where is my water? demanded the diplomat. Just When I was getting used to yesterday, A thousand pardons, O Illustrious One, stammered the Along came today. wretched Abdul. A man is sitting on the well!

4 GENERAL DERBYSHIRE INFORMATION HARBOUR STATIONS THE COXSWAIN SAID, ALLELULYA DERBY & DISTRIC EX SERVICE MEETING Hello Nobby, Tom Lewis here. (D/050106K. ex-ERA1 on The pre Remembrance Meeting took place Monday 16 Osiris, Amphion, Odin, Sealion, etc, etc.) I do a bit of Sept 2013 at the Council House. I ran out of space last singing (check the website below) and I've received a month but salient points were put in Oct DD. The MAYDAY from Keith Hodge (ex-EA on Walrus, Sealion, meeting was representative of most of the Ex Service etc.) asking for information about a song: ‘Harbour Assns and no problems on agenda, minutes of 15 April stations the Cox'n said’ sung to the tune ‘Michael row the meeting, matters arising, correspondence or Treasurers boat ashore’. I've wracked my brains on this one, but report (Still in credit). The review of Armed Forces Day come up blank. Any thoughts where we might look? (AFD) was well received with Nottm well attended by Thanks Terry. As you may know, I'm now living in D&D representatives and the Flag Raising at the Bournemouth; after 30 years in the Rocky Mountains of specially erected flag pole at the rear of the Council British Columbia, Canada! Lyn and I are living with her 91 House recorded a thank you for the effort but general year-old Mum, to give her support to stay in her own home. consensus was it should be more public to the front of the Cheers, Tom. http://www.tomlewis.net Self-Propelled Council House. The item on the Merchant Navy Day was Music, 14 Library Road, Bournemouth, BH9 2QH. UK very positive with ITV coverage and several pages in the Editor : I vaguely remember this song, and have searched Derby Evening Telegraph. John Wood MBE was given a my Second Submarine Standing Orders book of songs and BZ as the new Standards Marshall and Harry Mycroft other sources. I did have a separate volume from my proposed a vote of thanks to Bas Bowyer BEM for his Narwhal days with many Heppy Hepworth and Jan Rich service as Standards Marshal until his recent retirement songs and ditties but it appears to have been loaned out at from the post. It was the general consensus this Service some time and not returned and unfortunately this was should continue in future years. The main part of the before the days of electronics! If anyone can help Tom meeting was regards ‘Remembrance’ and was fully with an answer please let me know on email reported in October DD. We were also advised of the [email protected] for me to pass on. November 2014 planned dates and these have been Hearing from Tom (Who’s music I do like added to our Longcast in the Derbyshire Diary. A Footnote: presentation was given by Colleen Dean regards the especially ‘ Watches ’ & A Sailor ain’t a sailor ) reminded me that friend and folk singer, former POGI Shep Woolley will Rejuvenate Study details above this article. Trafalgar Day was advised as being celebrated on Friday 18 be an entertainer on our DS run in Hayling Island on the first weekend in November, and Shep is always a treat to October with the WRNS holding there coffee morning in the Council House 10-11:30 which will be followed at listen too. Of course we lost Cyril Tawney in 2005 a great RN Folk singer with Diesel & Shale being known by most Noon on the Banks of the River Derwent afterwards as normal. (You are reminded this is the day of our own submariners of the last century which is also recorded by Tom Lewis on his CD Surfacing. As we know from Trafalgar Dinner at the Hallmark). The Parks Dept have tided up the River Bank in preparation and the Memorial experience many had musical talents which were also commemorates ALL SEAFARERS from Derby who appreciated both on runs ashore and a sing songs and the have lost their lives as well as being the Bicentenary sing songs in both the Armada Club in Singapore and the Memorial to the Battle of Trafalgar. The meeting was Fleet Club in Hong Kong in both the 60-70’s were a given a brief by Wing Commander Phil Giles on the wonderful experience too. However, many local talent Derby Plans for the 2014 Commemorations of the start of such as Andy Sugden with his guitar was always WWI which included the First Festival of Remembrance appreciated. I suppose it depends on whether you like folk planned for Derby next year. Further details to be music, and are ex RN. However, Tom’s Watches and the released as the plans progress. Basically three elements reproduction of Diesel & Shale is to me a classic of RN Service life, and so easy to sing to; and very humorous. of Muster, Entertainment, Religious Service. Starting at 2pm 2/11/14 with main players being; Wing Cdr Phil Keith Ross Hello, I am trying to contact an ex submariner Giles, Bernard Page MBE of the RBL, Col. Chris Young whom I met when I was travelling around Greece 1974. Commandant of Cadets East Midlands and Dr John His name is Keith Ross and he was, from memory ,a Bailey the Religious event. Derby Live will partner the former Petty Officer on a Royal Navy submarine. He lived event and run as a commercial enterprise tickets in Matlock which I think is in Derbyshire. This why I'm expected to be in the region of £8-£10 pp. There will also contacting you; I realise that what I'm asking for may well be an exhibition in the Guildhall organised by Col Mike be pie in the sky but one can hope. I would be grateful if Cheetham of SSAFA. The meeting concluded at 12am you could help me. Many thanks Liz & Hugh Email when I made my way north for Graham’s funeral the [email protected] following day up in Blackpool Area. Ron Slater . At Ron’s Funeral donations were made to McMillan Cancer Research with a total of £335 being THE REJUVENATE STUDY donated so a thank you to all for the support. The local At the Derby & District Meeting we were advised of this Methodist Church at West Hallam holds an Annual Coffee project. The question was are you losing muscle as you Morning which I support where £1008.00 was raised, and age? Want to help research into ageing? Interested in with your kind donations a total of £1343.00 was raised for how exercise can improve your health? Your Help is this worthwhile charity. Thank you everyone for your Needed. Researchers from the University of Nottingham generosity. at Derby Royal Hospital are looking for healthy Male volunteers aged 18-28 and 65-75 years. Investigating Lethal Injection . Due to dwindling stocks the US is the effects of Vitamin D and different types of exercise on having to test new drugs for execution by lethal injection. muscle health. The study involves blood samples and Following one alleged 15 minute delay in dieing. Prisoners muscle biopsies and is not a drugs trial. An on death row are taking out legal cases that this will cause inconvenience allowance will be paid. For more undue suffering to them. So when they committed murder, information please contact Colleen Deane, that did not count the suffering they caused to the victim [email protected] or Tel 07725 581283 and family? They, and more, deserve what they get!!

5 POLICE NEWS STREET THEFTS . These crimes have occurred in Derby, Long Eaton, Bolsover & Chesterfield so please be aware. SCRAP COLLECTORS . Please be vigilant and cautious Thieves use distraction to swap cheap jewellery for the real when leaving items in your garden or on your front that thing so be vigilant. An 86-year-old woman was walking with can be taken for scrap metal. During the last two weeks a friend along Portland Avenue, near to the Salvation Army we have had incidents in the Boulton Moor area of South hut, when they were approached by two women. They Derbyshire where owners have left metal items outside or in offered the victim and her friend some gold coloured jewellery the front garden. A short time later scrap metal collectors and placed a necklace around her neck. She declined, and have removed the items without first checking with the the offenders removed the chain. She later realised her own owners that these can be collected, for example a child’s gold necklace had been stolen from her neck. The offenders, bike was left in his own garden when it was taken. In the who were both women, spoke with broken English and are future if something happens similar then at the time please thought to have been Romanian. A gold wedding ring was ring 999 so that both the vehicle and occupants can be also stolen from a 79-year-old man during a similar incident checked and the appropriate action carried out by the Police. on Langwith Road, Bolsover. The man was approached by If you should have scrap metal collectors in your two women who started talking to the man and attempted to Neighbourhood, then please obtain the registered number put two gold coloured rings on his finger. He told the women and descriptions of occupants and either forward them to he was not interested and took the rings off, but then later your local police on 111. found his own ring had been taken from his hand. The women were described as being aged in their 20s, of a slim STOLEN POST BOXES. Police are investigating a series build and wearing grey or blue dresses. Throughout of post box thefts from the Staffordshire/Derbyshire borders. Derbyshire, and since the start of the year there have been a So far five small Royal Mail post boxes (usually attached to a further 11 similar incidents, taking place in Alfreton, Derby and post) have been stolen. Local officers have been made Long Eaton. Inspector Frank Burns, said: ‘This type of crime aware of the thefts and an investigation into the doesn’t happen often but in light of the recent incidents I incidents is now underway. Staffordshire would remind residents to make sure they are vigilant. Police, said: This is clearly a developing trend Reputable jewellery sellers will not approach customers in the and we believe the incidents are linked. street, so please be aware and if you notice anyone acting Anyone who sees suspicious persons and/or suspiciously then contact the police as soon as possible. activity around post boxes is urged to report it. The boxes could be perceived as being UNNECESSARY 999 CALLS FOR FIRE SERVICE collector’s items, and the offender/s may try to DURING INDUSTRIAL ACTION offload them on to antiques/specialist dealers. Derbyshire Fire & Rescue Service (DFRS) is urging members Please contact us if you are offered such items of the public not to make unnecessary 999 calls, particularly in suspicious circumstances. These are during periods of industrial action. The first strike took part incidents that have happened in Staffordshire, we are aware Wed 25 Sept 2013 (During our Lunch Club). The DFRS will that there are similar boxes in Derbyshire, so please be be providing an emergency response service during these vigilant and report anything suspicious on 101, thank you periods, albeit at a reduced level, it is essential that members of our communities consider the need for a fire engine before making their call. Area Manager spokesperson for DFRS said VEHICLE SECURITY . Police are encouraging residents to ‘Whilst the industrial action is ongoing we will still be be security conscious to avoid becoming a victim of vehicle responding to 999 calls; however we are asking people to only crime. The Neighbourhood Policing Team said: We would call 999 if they really do need a fire engine. Our priority during like to remind drivers that when leaving their vehicles parked times of industrial action is to respond to those priority calls or unattended to ensure that no valuables, personal where a life may be at risk or someone needs to be rescued. belongings or cash is left on display, and that any Sat Nav If we respond to non-emergency calls then those most in need sucker marks are wiped from windscreens. Also with the of our help could be at risk. A non-emergency call could be to colder mornings starting to arrive, and condensation issues someone who is locked outside their house, or where or frost becoming a consideration, we would also like to urge someone is stuck in a lift. There are other agencies and people not to leave their vehicles running unattended on organisations that can help in this instance. Area Manager driveways. Obviously a secure garage is best if you have Basi went on to say ‘We do find ourselves in an unusual one or ensure you remove any items on view if leaving the situation where we must prioritise our calls for those who are vehicle outside overnight. A few simple actions can be all it most in need of our assistance. However, I must emphasise takes to make it much more difficult for opportunist thieves to that you should still call 999 in an emergency so that an prey on your vehicle. Be vigilant and report any suspicious experienced control room operator can deal with your activity to your local team. To contact your local Safer situation. You must not try to call your local fire station Neighbourhood Policing Team please call: 101, the non directly.’ emergency number, or call Crimestoppers anonymously on DERBY CITY POLICE REPORT 0800 555 111 Officers targeting city centre policing priorities have seen positive results where shoplifting and street begging is HOUSE BURGLARY & CAR THEFT Police are appealing concerned. In the last month officers have made numerous for information after a car was stolen from a house in West arrests for begging offences or shoplifting in various parts of Hallam. At around 2.30pm on a Monday, a burglar entered a the city centre. Sgt Brian Clifton who manages the City house in High Lane West and took a set of car keys. A Centre Safer Neighbourhood Policing Team said: The wedding ring, earrings and a bracelet were also stolen. The intention with Operation Prospero is to reduce shop theft, keys were used to take a metallic blue Volkswagen Golf from street drinking and begging, bag dipping and theft of the driveway. Ensure you always lock your doors even if just pushbikes. We want to tackle those intent on committing popping next door, up the garden etc . If you have a burglar crime. My team and I will continue to concentrate on the local alarm fitted check the instructions to see if you can activate priorities. We hope residents, businesses and visitors to the chime on any Door Contacts which at least alerts you Derby city centre can see that we are listening to their even when the alarm is off that a door has been opened. concerns and targeting the issues they have raised with us. Obviously do not leave your car keys next to the door or on We rely on the public to keep us informed of what is going on view next to a access or window. so we as a team can be effective in our efforts to make the city centre a safe and pleasant place to work, live and visit. QUOTE : I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

6 JEFF BACON © CARTOONS A TRIBUTE TO FISHERMEN The humble trawler, a ship of sort, This month’s cartoons Starts its engine and leaves the port. will be familiar situations On board the boat, the crewman’s wish, to many. What was the A safe return and a load of fish. old song we used to sing. Ah Well Narwhal, Into deeper waters the boat must venture, Big Black Tub, Ah Well To seek the best fish which to capture. Narwhal, Lets have The rising swell, the pitch and the roll, another scrub . The Deep below cod, haddock, plaice and sole. author I believe of this ditty and many others It’s now time to fish, so the nets are cast, was Heppy Hepworth Into rough seas, so deep and so vast. who came from Through the biting winds and the bitter cold, Huddersfield way; but he A haul of fish tumbles into the hold. seems to have sadly dropped off the radar and is AWOL Time and again, the nets trawl waters deep, from the Dieso Boat reunion!! The fishermen work, there’s little time for sleep. The slippery deck, a dangerous place to be, The cartoon on the right sums Most important of course, is the crew’s safety. up the democracy that can only work in the Forces! The hold is now full; it’s time to head home, Unfortunately though there is The boat breaks the waves, there’s lots of foam. indisputable evidence of it Thank you to the men, for all their hard work, being used in Parliament, For giving me the fish, I have on my fork Business and attempts in some ex Service Associations And on the same theme of a tribute to our Merchant Navy with disastrous results in all be they Shipping, or the humble trawler of whom I having cases as we all sadly know! served up ‘The Ice’ have so much respect for: REMEMBRANCE INNOCENCE IS PRICELESS One Sunday morning, the vicar noticed little Alex SEAFARERS VERSION OF 23RD PSALM standing in the foyer of the church staring up at a large The Lord is my pilot, I shall not drift. marble plaque of Remembrance. It was covered with He lighteth me across the dark waters: names and small Union Jacks mounted on either side of He steereth me in the deep channels. it. The six year old had been staring at the plaque for He keepeth my log: some time, so the vicar walked up to him; stood beside the little boy and said quietly ‘Good morning Alex’. Good He guideth me by the star of Holiness morning vicar, what is this plaque? The vicar replied, for His Name’s sake. ‘Well son, it’s a memorial to all the young men and Yea, though I said ‘mid the thunders and tempests of life, women who died in the services’. Soberly, they both just I shall dread no danger: for Thou art with me. stood there together, staring at the large plaque. Finally, Thou preparest a harbour before me little Alex’s voice, barely audible and trembling with fear in the homeland of eternity: asked, ‘ Which service, the 08:30 or the 10:30 ?’ Thou anointest the waves with oil; my ship rideth calmly. SPY NOVELIST TOM CLANCY DIES AGED 66 Surely sunlight and starlight shall favour me Best-selling US author Tom Clancy, known to millions for his on the voyage I take; Jack Ryan series of novels, has died aged 66, his publisher and I will rest in the port of my God forever. has confirmed. Clancy wrote a string of best-selling spy and Amen military thrillers. Several of his books featuring CIA analyst Ryan were adapted into successful films, including The Hunt LADIES TO SERVE ON SUBMARINES for Red October and Patriot Games. The former insurance broker died in a Baltimore hospital near his Maryland home, according to reports. The Hunt for Red October (1984) was Clancy's first published novel and sold more than five million copies. President Ronald Reagan helped to fuel the success of the book when he called it a ‘perfect yarn’. The novel was made into a successful film in 1990, starring Alec Baldwin as Ryan and Sir Sean Connery as Soviet submarine captain Marko Ramius. Harrison Ford went on to play Ryan in film versions of Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger, while Ben Affleck played him in 2002 release The Sum of All Fears. Jack Ryan: Shadow One, a new film to feature the character directed by Sir Kenneth Branagh, is set for release this December. As well as a successful writer, Clancy also became closely associated with the world of video gaming. In the 1990s he founded Red Storm Entertainment, later bought by Ubisoft, which developed games based on Clancy's ideas. Blockbuster video game titles bearing his name included Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon and Rainbow Six. Editor: Tom Clancy has been one of my long time favourite authors, and I doubt there is a submariner not aware of Red October either in book form. or film? A sad loss to the literary world I could not possibly comment!

7 SA & OTHER SUBMARINE WORLD NEWS SECRET DEFENCE REPORT COLLINS SUBS CRISIS The Australian, 25 September 2013 LCK (C) L. Buxton , D157038K RN Gulf Medal clasp 16 The Australian media has uncovered a report by the Jan-28Feb 1991, RN L.S.G.C. QE2, Saudi Liberation country's Defence Materiel Organization (DMO) which Medal & Kuwaiti Liberation Medal, purported to have suggests that the Royal Australian Navy's current fleet of served on the only Submarine employed during the Gulf Collins-class submarines may be forced into retirement War. Can anyone answer the following questions before a suitable plan for their replacement is introduced. please? 1. Which submarine would this be? Statements by the former MoD under the previous Labour 2. When did the Official numbers D157 get introduced? government suggested that ‘no single technical issue would Answers to [email protected] please. fundamentally prevent’ the Collins-class achieving their full service life, despite the report from the DMO which indicated LEM Bangs (Bernie) , On behalf of a mate of mine in faults to 68 major systems which presented serious risks to Sydney, Australia - I am trying to find any information on their continued operation. The report suggests that the the following ex RN. Any info will be appreciated and I boats are becoming ‘heavier, noisier, and hotter’ as they will pass it on. He served UK Navy Surface Ships, Malta age. Some defence commentators now predict a gap in 1959 Destroyer? Dolphin Subs? 1960 and was on Australian submarine capability, and even if they remain in Nuclear Boats. Later joined RAN. No record of him as a service, there is the risk that the submarines will be obsolete SA Member. Any info appreciated: Jeff Westwood if a replacement is further delayed. The new government under PM Tony Abbott is said to be considering options, Cook Derek Catton/Catten/Cotton . I'm trying to find out including whether to try to extend the service life of the if he is still alive the whereabouts of a Derek troubled Collins fleet by a further cycle of seven years to Catton/Catten/Cotton age approx 75-80 was a chef/cook between 2031 and 2038 to prevent a gap between the served on a submarine that begun with the letter A and retirement of the Collins and the construction of up to 12 new was based in Portsmouth in 1960. I know this is a very submarines. very long shot but I am doing this on behalf of his daughter who is a friend of mine; any help advice would Some Public Feedback On-Line to the Aussie Subs Situ . be much appreciated. Email [email protected] 1. When will the penny drop that these submarines cannot perform their intended role? More importantly, when will Steve Phillips Australians come to understand that the defence of the Tommy Topham The CO of the Submarine Training nation may be more important than maintaining jobs in South School in HMS Raleigh is seeking to contact the family of Australia? It seems from Cameron Stewart's article that the Tommy Topham. If you have contact details please let options are to extend the life of the Collins-class to 2038, or me know and I will forward to the School. Thanks for have an eight-year gap during which we have no submarine your help in this matter. Jim McM capability. Neither option is acceptable. Max Ball . 2. Australia has unique requirements for submarines. They The BBC One Show are urgently seeking to speak with have to travel long distances to deploy for patrol and get submarine model maker and Resurgam expert Paul there in the shortest possible time. So it's time the Bower for a piece on the Resurgam. Please can you let government and the opposition took a non-political approach me know if you have his contact details. Paul was author to evaluating the Virginia-class subs that can be built quickly of ‘The Garrett Enigma’, a book about early submarine and last much longer than conventional boats. Jon Duggan , pioneers. (Available in DD Library). Thanks so much, 3. I am ex-navy and proud of the service which is celebrating 100 years next month. But I am appalled by the Ben Macdonald , Researcher/Production Coordinator, state to which it has been reduced after six years of Labour Icon Films, 4th Floor, College House, 32-36 College government, white papers and grandiose promises. I am Green, Bristol, BS1 5SP. Tel (01179) 102079 DD: appalled at the raid on the defence budget and SA Slops . From Edward (Ted) Hogben Subject: Slops investigations by the Defence Materiel Organisation which On the ‘Notices’ page of the Association web-site and were not publicly released because of volatile findings, under Association Slops; Mike Kemp the SA web master followed by outright lies about the true state of disrepair of our submarines and overworked patrol boats. This should has very kindly put together a page detailing the bits for anger all Australians. The Abbott government should not sale and contact information. Please use and keep your need 18 months to make a decision on new submarines or insignia up to date. Ted H . extending the life of the Collins-class boats. The navy brass

Admiral Sir Sandy Woodward To remind you that a already know what needs to be done. Action should be Thanksgiving Service for Admiral Sir Sandy Woodward taken now. Our sailors should have safe working conditions. will be held in Chichester Cathedral on Thursday 14th What will it take to make the decisions to buy or build new equipment meant to secure our borders? Colleen Walker November at 2.30 p.m. The service will be followed by a Editor: M’mm, sadly this sounds a familiar theme to our reception in the Cathedral precinct. It will be much own UK Submarine situation with our T-Boats! appreciated if those who are wishing to attend could e- mail Tessa Simpson(Tessa is Sandy’s daughter) at INDIA TO RENOVATE 4 RUSSIAN-BUILT DIESEL SUBS [email protected]. Jeff Tall The Hindu, 25 Sept & Russia/India Report, 26 Sept 2013

HMS/M Truculent Memorial Service . Medway Towns SA The long-delayed Indian aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya will are holding the annual Memorial Svc for all those who lost be delivered to the Indian Navy on 15 November, and will be their lives when HMS/M Truculent was sunk following a serviced with the support of Russian engineers for a period collision at sea on 12 Jan 1950. The svc will be held on Sat of one year following that handover. In related news, India 11 Jan 2014 (nearest Sat to 12th. January) at St. Georges says it plans to refurbish four diesel-electric Kilo-class Centre, on the university campus at the bottom of Dock submarines of the same class as the INS Sindhurakshak, Road, Chatham (used to be HMS Pembroke). The service which was destroyed in deadly dockside fire in late August. will start at 1050 hrs. It will be followed by a buffet/tots/wine The Kilo-class is, overall, a proven design that is in service etc. All are welcome. Standards will be appreciated. Any with eight navies, including those of India and Russia. The questions contact Derek Grant by E-mail Indian Navy now operates nine Kilo-class boats, which were [email protected], Telephone 01634 717384 or A built beginning in the mid 1980s. Reports suggest that two Watt [email protected] Telephone 01634 710715. of the boats will be worked on in Indian shipyards, while the One DS Member has advised me he intends to attend. other two will be sent to the Russian yard at Severodinsk 8 THOUGHTS TO PONDER ON Today is the oldest you’ve ever been, yet the youngest you will ever be. So enjoy this day while it lasts. Your And As We Move Into Autumn ; Thence Winter, You kids are becoming you, but your grandchildren are know. Time has a way of moving quickly and catching perfect! Going out is good; coming home is better! You you unaware of the passing years. It seems just forget names, but it's OK because other people forgot yesterday that I was young, just married and embarking they even knew you! You realise you're never going to on my new life with my mate. Yet in a way, it seems like be really good at anything especially golf. The things you eons ago, and I wonder where all the years went. I know used to care to do, you no longer care to do, but you that I lived them all. I have glimpses of how it was back really do care that you don't care to do them anymore. then and of all my hopes and dreams. But, here it is the You sleep better on a lounge chair with the TV blaring winter of my life and it catches me by surprise. How did I than in bed. It's called pre-sleep . You miss the days get here so fast? Where did the years go and where did when everything worked with just an ‘On’ and ‘Off’ switch. my youth go? I remember well seeing older people You tend to use more 4 letter words; What? When? through the years and thinking that those older people Now that you can afford expensive jewellery, it's not safe were years away from me and that winter was so far off to wear it anywhere. You notice everything they sell in that I could not fathom it, or stores is sleeveless ! What used to be freckles are now imagine fully what it would liver spots. Everybody whispers. You have 3 sizes of be like. But, here it is; my clothes in your wardrobe, two of which you will never friends are retired and wear. But Old is good in some things: Old Songs, Old getting grey; they move movies, and best of all, Old Friends! Stay well, Old slower and I see an older Friends. It's Not What You Gather, But What You Scatter person now. Some are in That Tells What Kind Of Life You Have Lived Whatever, better and some worse HAVE a Happy Day shape than me, but, I see the great change. Not like the ones that I remember who were young and vibrant; but, like me, their age is REMEMBERING MY FIRST TIME beginning to show and we are now those older folks that we used to see and never thought we'd be. Each day It was my first time, I'll never forget now, I find that just getting a shower is a real target for I'd do it again, Without a regret the day! And taking a nap is not a treat anymore, it's mandatory! Cause if I don't on my own free will, I just fall The sky was dark, The moon was high asleep where I sit! We were alone, Just she and I

And so...now I enter into this new season of my life Her hair was soft, Her eyes were blue unprepared for all the aches and pains and the loss of I knew just what, She wanted to do strength and ability to go and do things that I wish I had done but never did!! But, at least I know, that though the Her skin was soft, Her legs were fine winter has come, and I'm not sure how long it will last; I ran my fingers, Down her spine this I know, that when it's over on this earth, it’s over. A new adventure will begin! Yes, I have regrets. There are I didn't know how, But I tried my best things I wish I hadn't done...things, I should have done, I started by placing, My hands on her breast but indeed, there are many things I'm happy to have done. It's all in a I remember the fear, My fast beating heart lifetime. So, if you're not in your winter But slowly she spread, Her legs apart yet, let me remind you, that it will be here faster than you think. So, And when I did it, I felt no shame whatever you would like to accomplish All at once, The white stuff came in your life, please do it quickly! Don't put things off too long!! Life goes by quickly. So, do what At last it is finished, It's all over now you can today, as you can never be sure whether this is My first time ever, At milking a cow your winter or not! You have no promise that you will see all the seasons of your life, so, live for today and say all DERBYSHIRE SUBMARINERS LUNCHEON EVENT!! the things that you want your loved ones to remember; and hope that they appreciate and love you for all the things that you have done for them in all the years past!!

Life is a gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to those who come after. Make it a fantastic one. Live it Well! Enjoy Today, Do Something Fun! Be Happy! Have a great day daily. Remember ‘It is health that is real wealth’ and not pieces of gold and silver. Life Is Too Short to let even one day be frenzied or frazzled or frittered away. Life is too short not to take time to do the things that will hold the most meaning for you. So let yourself float like a leaf on a stream, relax with your memories and let yourself dream. Throw out your list that's impossibly long, and dance a few steps to a favourite song. Turn off the news and go find someone real who'll listen and talk and affirm what you feel. Life is too short and flies by if you let it, so choose what you want every day and go and get it. Wot! No Chips and Mayonnaise Madam??

9 TRIDENT WON'T MAKE US ONE JOT SAFER from seizing Suez, or General Galtieri from seizing the Wednesday, September 25, 2013 Falklands. Even Margaret Thatcher's favourite nuclear It must rank as the daftest, costliest question in British strategist, the late Michael Quinlan, pondered the then politics. How many Trident submarines does Britain forecast £10bn renewal cost for Trident. He questioned need? Medieval schoolmen sharpened their brains by ‘the continuing effort and expenditure’ and doubted counting angels on pinheads. British policymakers whether a British deterrent ‘would still have worthwhile sharpen theirs by counting warheads on missiles. They credibility’. The former head of US strategic air command know it is irrational but the money, the language, the was equally baffled. The British deterrent relied on US whiz-bangs, the uniforms turn their heads and dazzle supplies and maintenance. Yet its use was predicated on their minds. Ordinary guns and soldiers they can America proving unreliable in deploying its deterrent understand. They slash their costs with ease. But cut against some putative attacker. The British deterrent had nuclear weapons? That would be risky. Every time I dip to be credible when America's was not. It made no into the Trident debate I am reminded of Great War sense. Reading the Chatham House study today is to generals gulping on chateau champagne while the realise how deaf politics can be to reason. Gordon trenches filled with blood. David Cameron was Brown justified Trident as merely supplying ‘Scottish confronted with a bold option on taking office: whether to jobs’. Blair wanted to be ‘at the top table’, as does cut back on Labour's glamour sea and air projects, many Cameron. Yet the New York Times reported in April that already out of date, and invest in the army instead. He the US was pressing Britain to face financial reality, and flunked it. In the case of Trident, he muttered that his ‘either be a nuclear power and nothing else, or a real ‘real concern’ was a threat from North Korea. It was military partner’. If Britons wanted to police the world, mad. Last spring there were signs that Labour's Ed they should sustain a well-equipped army, not posture as Miliband might summon up the guts at last to challenge a nuclear power. Debates on defence are a miasma of the ‘independent deterrent’, given that its submarine fear, ignorance and fantasy. The cry of the defence replacement would consume a third of defence lobby, that ‘you can't put a price on security’ is rubbish. procurement for a decade. The press was briefed that he There is a price on every sort of security. What makes was ‘set to scrap Trident strategy’. He too flunked it. Trident peculiar is the tendency of the costs involved to There was no mention of the most expensive project on rise, and the obscurity of its justification. the Treasury books in his speech yesterday. Earlier this month the Liberal Democrats mooted a scheme to keep The old maxim was never more true, that soldiers submarines, but with their warheads locked up ashore. prepare for old wars not future ones. They are The idea had emerged to cut costs from within the obsessively conservative. As a result, when not Ministry of Defence, where a former minister, Nick spending on Trident (a cold war weapon), they have Harvey, spoke of the ‘frankly almost lunatic mindset’ induced the government to spend on old-fashioned among nuclear strategists. The idea was crushed by the carriers and manned fighter planes, just when long- union of former defence secretaries and service chiefs, distance drones are the weapon of the future. Yet the led by Lords (George) Robertson and (Michael) Boyce. wars Britain is expected to fight, wars of political choice, They dismissed it as ‘hare-brained’. demand equipment and tactics from not just past wars but past centuries. Enemies are immune to nuclear The entire debate is hare-brained. Nobody can explain weapons and heavy armour, when, where or how these terrible weapons would be enemies who hurl grenades and deployed and used, despite the essence of deterrence wield Kalashnikovs made in being credibility. (Yet we want to bomb Syria for using far 1947. In today's wars, as in Iraq less drastic chemical ones.) They bear no reference to and Afghanistan, Cameron's any plausible threat to Britain that could possibly merit expensive procurements are an their use. Meanwhile their possession by Britain is a irrelevance. Nuclear deterrence blatant invitation to nuclear proliferation, making is rooted in a balance of terror opposition to an Iranian bomb hypocritical. Yet Labour, established briefly during the cold like the Tories, is supporting a Trident renewal war. In the improbable event of programme that is set to consume £20 billion and rise to those days returning, the west would stand together a reputed £100bn over 20 years. Even current defence under America's nuclear umbrella or it would be doomed. chiefs have been careful to excuse themselves from this The idea that Britain is made one jot safer by a £100bn debate, saying it is ‘for politicians to decide’ on the Armageddon weapon floating in the Atlantic is absurd. deterrent, and for the Treasury to pay for it outside the Yet not absurd to everyone. The idea is the mental defence budget (which the Treasury refuses). The construct of a powerful lobby, the British navy, its mesmerising effect of ‘the bomb’ on Labour recalls the cheerleaders and its suppliers, with their hands on party's ancient fear of being thought weak on defence. It stupefying amounts of public money and an ability to was seen in Nye Bevan's shift from ‘no first use’ to scare politicians into pandering to their interest. It is that deriding disarmament as an ‘emotional spasm’ that would interest, not Great Britain, that they are defending so send Britain ‘naked into the conference chamber’. vigorously. As a result the one policy on which all parties Labour's defence establishment ever since has striven to seem to agree is that Britain needs its own nuclear be more hawkish than any. In 1997 Tony Blair duly deterrent, which is nonsense. bought fighters, frigates and carriers in the greatest splurge of uncontrolled defence spending in peacetime. Submariners Humour . Many Submariners from Seven years ago Chatham House published a debate on Derbyshire will remember the visit to HMS Sovereign in the deterrent by a distinguished group of British and US Faslane, & as we went back aft through the Donk Shop a strategists, soldiers and historians. They calmly took very, oily and dirty Submariner stuck his head up through apart the bombast and rhetoric, delivering a message of the plates and asked ‘Who’s this lot then’ to our guide extreme scepticism. It was highly unlikely that the Soviets who responded ‘They’re Ex Submariners’. His immediate were deterred from attacking Britain during the cold war. response was ‘ Wish I was an Ex ***** Submariner ’ and Egypt's Gamal Abdel Nasser was certainly not deterred he disappeared down into the machinery again!!

10 ARTFUL NUTS OVER SUB’S NEW MASCOT OBITUARY MESM CHRISTOPERY PAYNE Friday, September 20, 2013 Source: Navy News I regret to advise you that a 22 year old serving The crew of Britain’s newest nuclear submarine, officially Submariner has sailed on his final patrol following a road named today in Barrow today, unveiled the boat’s traffic accident, Engineering Technician (MESM) namesake mascot ahead of the milestone ceremony in Christopher Payne, HMS/M Triumph . May he find a the boat’s life. Artful , a ten-month-old lemur monkey from safe anchorage and no doubt all our thoughts will be with South Lakes Wild Animal Park, has been adopted by the Christopher’s family and friends at this difficult time. crew of the £1bn hunter-killer. This is Artful the Monkey, Regards David Watts (Hon SA National Secretary) official mascot of Artful the Submarine, which will be unveiled in a formal ceremony in Barrow tomorrow as the News Report. The heartbroken family of a young sailor who hunter-killer, the third of Britain’s seven Astute-class died in a motorbike smash while on leave have honoured ‘a boats nears completion. Ahead of the big day in the wonderful young man who served his country.’ Royal Navy boat’s life, a nine-strong team from Artful made the short submariner, Christopher Payne, 22, was killed instantly in trip to South Lakes Wild Animal Park to adopt the ten- the crash on the B6179 Derby Road near Coxbench on 5 September, after failing to negotiate a bend near the A38 month-old baby ring-tailed lemur. The inspiration for the bridge. Christopher, a marine engineering technician, had adoption came from the submarine’s crest, although the just returned home from his post on the HMS Triumph in creature on the boat’s historic symbol, chosen in 1945 by Plymouth that day. Fighting back tears, his dad Dean the Admiralty’s advisor on heraldry for the first Artful , is Payne, said: ‘I am so proud of my son and what he achieved actually an unspecified species of primate. Having in life. I am proud of the job that his mother Debbie and I did walked around the wildlife park with my wife last year, I in raising him to turn out to be such a wonderful young man. remembered they had little monkeys and thought that ‘He served his country and would have gone on to serve his adopting one as a mascot would be a good idea, said 24- country many times more.’ Hundreds of mourners year-old Lt Aaron Williams from Bradford. We wanted to descended on Brimington Crematorium last Thursday to pay do something quirky to mark the naming ceremony. tributes to Christopher, known as Max to his fellow sailors; When I did a little research into the crest, I found out that as he was honoured with a full military funeral. Amongst it was chosen to represent the quality of artfulness, them were more than 60 members of the Royal Navy who monkeys having the reputation of being clever and were able to attend en masse because of a fault with the resourceful creatures. Meanwhile in the wildlife park’s submarine that delayed their launch. His uncle, Keith Lee, spider monkey enclosure, Knot and rope skills were put said: ‘He was very well thought of. They are a close knit to good use as the submariners spruced things up for its family on the HMS Triumph. They have lost one of their own inhabitants. I love monkeys, but let’s hope they don’t just as much as us.’ complain about my decorating skills as much as my wife He described his nephew, a lifelong *Spireite (* A Spireite is does! said 33-year-old PO Lee Sinclair from Aberdeen. a person from Chesterfield named after the famous Church As for Artful, well sadly the new mascot will be going crooked Spire ); as a typical teenager with a cheeky grin, who nowhere near his boat always looked out for his younger sister, Danielle, 19. ‘He (monkey + £1bn submarine, was very protective of her’ said Keith. She is absolutely what could possibly go devastated. She has lost her right arm. Dean added: From wrong?). the moment she was born he looked after her and he was still looking after her until he died. Christopher, who was Animals have been banned born in Spital and divided his time between Brimington and from Her Majesty’s ships Holbrook while on leave, will be remembered by a signed since the 1970s for reasons Chesterfield FC shirt donated by the club, to hang in HMS of hygiene. Which is a Triumph. Chesterfield FC Community Trust director John shame because the RN had Croot: ‘It was an honour to hand over a signed shirt to a long and unusual history of mascots from the animal Christopher Payne’s colleagues from HMS Triumph. It is kingdom, from Simon the Cat which kept the vermin at nice to think that the shirt, once it is framed and hung up on bay on HMS Amethyst on the Yangtze; to Barbara the a wall aboard the submarine, will provide them with a polar bear, rescued as a cub from drifting ice off permanent reminder of Christopher. Chris Brownley, fellow submariner, said: ‘A lot of the lads are finding it quite hard Greenland and a ship’s mascot until growing too large without him, and we are all finding it hard to concentrate. He and re-homed in Portsmouth; and Winnie, another always had a smile on his face, always a cheeky grin. He monkey mascot who travelled with Great War torpedo was one of the nicest people I have ever met. He would boat HMS Velox . We won’t be able to get Artful on always help out.” board, but the crew will still take an interest in him and no doubt a few of the guys and their families will be visiting Editor : 1/10 The site this young submariner is only a the wildlife park in the future to see how he is doing, said mile or so where I live, and I have passed it several times Lt Williams. As for the submarine, she’s been eight and recently and obviously knew of the fatality of a motor half years in the making. The naming ceremony today is cyclist, but not that it was a submariner. The corner just roughly the equivalent of launching a surface ship under the A38 is adorned with flowers and tributes as I (there’s no slipway for submarines, which are inched out have witnessed. The road is the old road through Little of the gigantic Devonshire Dock Hall at BAE’s Barrow Eaton heading towards Kilburn. Unfortunately Derbyshire yard), including smashing a bottle of champers against Submariners were unaware of the accident involving a the hull in the age-old style. Building on the extensive submariner or of the funeral; and we are sad to learn of trials and tests of her older sisters Astute and Ambush , the details. At least now silent tribute can be made on both of which are due to carry out their first operational passing the site in memory of Christopher Payne. Our patrols in a matter of months, Artful is due to enter Heart and Prayers go out to his family, and his Triumph service in 2015. The only previous Artful , sister of HMS Submarine crew. After consultation with the DS Welfare Alliance on display in Gosport at the RN Submarine Committee on 2/10/13, a DS Poppy Wreath and Museum, served for over two decades from the late Blackpool & Flyde (Triumph is adopted by Blackpool) has 1940s until the end of the 1960s, before being broken up. been laid at the site of the tragedy in his memory. Resurgam 11 COUNCIL PILOT PROJECT TO PROTECT RESIDENTS Each Changing Places toilet provides specialised equipment FROM PHONE FRAUD including a height adjustable changing bench and a hoist. 24 September 2013 They are designed for people with multiple learning disabilities Vulnerable older residents most at risk of telephone fraud will as well as other serious health issues such as spinal injuries, be invited to test a new device to protect them from nuisance muscular dystrophy and multiple sclerosis, who often need calls. We have approved funding to carry out a six-month trial extra help in order for them to use the toilets comfortably. of 'trueCall' telephone monitors in a bid to stop fraudsters and They are usually accessed with a RADAR key which offers nuisance callers reaching victims. Research published by disabled people independent access to locked public toilets Financial Fraud Action UK reveals that almost a third of the around the country and is available from some local district or UK population receives at least 10 cold calls per month with borough councils, or www.radar-shop.org.uk (opens in a new 41 per cent suspecting that a call was fraudulent or window). There is also a mobile Changing Places toilet which suspicious. Those aged over 50 were shown to be was funded by Aiming High and is available for use at events particularly at risk with almost half having received a around the county and can be hired by contacting David Birkin fraudulent or suspicious cold call, and residents with dementia on 01629 532193. For more information on Changing Places are particularly at risk from agreeing to order goods and in Derbyshire contact 01629 539003. services they don't need from persistent sales people and scammers. We will liaise with Derbyshire police to select a COMPUTER FRAUD INVESTIGATED BY POLICE small group of most at risk older residents to take part in the Derbyshire police are warning the public to be extra vigilant £1,000 pilot project. The Cabinet Member for Health and against computer software fraud after a Chesterfield man paid Communities, said: ‘It's sickening that fraudsters use the out to suspected fraudsters. The 70-year-old victim was phone to target older and vulnerable people in their own contacted on Friday 20 Sept and was told that his computer homes to con them out of their savings and pensions. We're would crash unless he paid the fees to fix it. The fraudster, committed to tackling this kind of practice and are keen to who claimed to be fronting a company registered with investigate new ways to help residents, particularly those who Microsoft, was given card details by the victim who paid £165 are at most risk, to fight back against fraud. Projects like our to the suspected criminals to clear the virus on his system. Trusted Trader scheme to help people find reputable The Head of the Derbyshire Constabulary Economic Crime businesses have proved hugely popular and we believe this Unit has expressed concern about the recent and significant trial will support that and the other work we do to protect rise in computer virus and software service fraud . There were residents in this way. 151 reported cases in Derbyshire from Jan to June this year. Typically, fraudsters are ‘cold calling’ members of the public TrueCall is a small box that fits onto a home phone line. It professing to belong to a recognised software company. The combines a digital answerphone with a call screening service offenders direct the individual to a web site where they can which enables the homeowner to accept or reject certain take control of the computer and download viruses. The types of calls. It can also stop certain kinds of call being fraudsters are often the only ones that have the capability to received altogether such as anonymous or silent calls and remove the virus and charge a premium rate to do so, in some calls from automated diallers; the kind favoured by cases up to £200. There are some simple but effective steps telemarketers and scammers. Calls from friends and family that we can all take to prevent ourselves from becoming and other recognised numbers are allowed through to be victims of computer fraud. This includes not disclosing answered as normal. If the trial is successful the council personal information to organisations or people before hopes to consider rolling out the project out to other at risk verifying their credentials and ensuring that your computer older residents. Residents who are concerned about any kind has up-to-date anti-virus software and firewall. Other of fraud can call Action Fraud on 0300 123 2040 or visit prevention advice includes: www.actionfraud.police.uk (opens in a new window) • Ensure your browser is set to the highest level of security to Residents looking for reputable businesses can find a prevent malware issues and computer crimes. Derbyshire County Council Trusted Trader at • Many frauds start with a phishing email and many look www.derbyshire.gov.uk/tt (opens in a new window) genuine. Remember that banks and financial institutions The Citizens Advice Consumer Service can offer helpful would never send you an email asking you to click on a link general trading standards advice on 08454 04 05 06 and confirm your bank details. Contact your bank directly if Louise Hiron, Forum Support Officer, Adult Care you are unsure. Derbyshire County Council, Tel: 01629 532049 • Be extremely wary of post, phone calls or emails offering you

business deals out of the blue. If an offer seems too good to DAYS OUT MADE EASIER FOR DISABLED PEOPLE be true, it probably is. Always question it. 19 September 2013 If you need advice about fraud, call Action Fraud on 0300 123 We fitted our latest Changing Places specialised toilet facility 2040 to discuss your situation with their specialist fraud at Elvaston Castle Country Park which has more space than advisers. To report a fraud call 0300 123 2040 or accessible disabled toilets and are designed for use with a alternatively, visit www.actionfraud.police.uk. carer. It has been added to the current toilet facilities at a cost of about £78,000 from Aiming High grant funding which helps improve the opportunities for disabled children and young people to become involved in leisure, sport and play activities. A Changing Places toilet has also been added to the current facilities at Cromford Wharf along with a new accessible toilet and family toilet with baby changing facility at a cost of £85,000. The launches come as the Coalition Government calls for councils to ensure tourist hotspots are accessible for disabled people. We already provide off-road mobility scooters for hire at seven of its countryside sites. Five of the scooters were purchased using Aiming High funds. And there is also a Changing Places facility at another one of its countryside sites, Shipley Country Park . The deputy cabinet member for jobs, economy and transport, said: Many disabled people cannot use standard accessible toilets so it is important we make sure that everyone is able to enjoy days out in Derbyshire.

12 TS KENYA INSPECTION NIGHT LUNCHEON CLUB NEWS This Annual event took place on 27 September at TS Kenya. The September venue was the ever popular Queens Head at Their were five Derbyshire Submariners in attendance, with Ockbrook where our host; Sally provided us with an excellent two of those members being on the Committee of the TS venue and meal as normal. The Derbyshire Steaks are still Kenya. We assembled in the drill hall as normal at 18:45 for exquisite and adding a Pate Starter to a Steak was enjoyable evening colours in the presence of the Vice Lord Lieutenant of but it did not leave any room for a pudding!! We were just Derbyshire, The High Sheriff of Derbyshire, and the Mayor of under the 20 but the Queens Head is a lovely village venue Derby, parents, friends and supporters. As the PR stated the and the quality of food is second to none, and really of Annual Prize Giving is when the Cadets endeavours are restaurant quality. At the beginning of the year we held a recognised over the last year ranging from behaviour and Welcome to 2013 Lunch Club meet early in January to attendance to recognition of their efforts from skill learned welcome in the New Year as a bonus meet and certain since the last Prize Giving. The Unit is run by Capt Andy participants asked if the same could be done this January so Fuller RMR who on the evening received his 12 year Sea this was put down on the Oct Agenda to be discussed! The Cadets Long Service and Good Conduct Medal, so BZ Andy. Oct venue is the Windmill at Breadsall and Nov will be the Their were several ‘Submariner’ trophies including the Tommy John Warren in Ilkeston; thence the Christmas Lunch so Appleby Trophy for best Engineering and of course the Tom please get your orders in for that too please. For 2014 I will Smith Submariner Trophy presented to a member of staff and be looking for suggestions of where you want to go and of one by the bootie instructor. Sadly we learnt that after 31 course any suggestions for any new venues. Criteria is within years at the helm of all the Unit’s Administration that Miss the Derby Area, centred on Chaddesden, which is the most Sheila Shelton was resigning to take on more care of her populated with members, & if possible on a bus route for mother who also attended the evening. She was the first those that do not have motors, or other members living near recipient of the Tom Smith Submariner three them. Please if you attend ANY lunch clubs during the years ago. We do of course have the four year fill in, and return the survey sheet in this newsletter on smaller RN Rating Bronze Statues too but page 17. Your votes will count/decide our bookings for 2014. these are presented after the November Remembrance Service to the four Cadets who ROLLS ROYCE & ROYAL AIR FORCE ASSN provide the Guard of Honour around the City BATTLE OF BRITAIN THANKS GIVING SERVICE War Memorial Annually. They used to be really This annual Service of thanksgiving and Remembrance for impressive with their upturned .303 rifles until the Battle of Britain takes place at Rolls Royce Sinfin site some politically correct person without a mummy or daddy annually and is always well attended. We had ten bookings said it was not right for the cadets to have guns!! TS Kenya but illness and old age took a toll on our attendees on the day. had also passed its Annual Inspection with flying colours and Albert and Annie reported how moving the Service was and was thus presented with a 2013 Pennant which was commented on how splendid the Band of the Derbyshire Army presented by Cdr Jerry Hall to the Unit. This was bent on the Cadets performed. Albert is of course an ex Rolls Royce halyard, and it soon became apparent that the skills of the employee from the site (As you would expect of an ex RN Buntings are no longer of a high standard, but a resourceful Clanky). The crowds enjoyed the running of the Aero Engine Royal Marine eventually had the flag flying!! outside and especially popular were the enthusiasts Rolls Royce’s and Bentleys which were giving rides from Gate 5 One very young Cadet had a unique award for courage in the down to Osmaston Road Derby. It would appear all those face of adversity and disaster. Apparently on a weeks who attended had a splendid day and the people of Derby training; first day broke the an arm off his glasses; second day certainly turned out in force. broke his left boot (Super-glued); third day broke the other arm off his glasses; fourth day broke his other boot resulting in 2014 W5795 WELLINGTON BOMBER MEMORIAL more superglue; cut himself badly needing First Aid etc etc. Though nothing to do with DS I have always enjoyed We were in ‘stitches’ when a Pusser’s Boot , wearing marvellous support for this Annual Service of Remembrance spectacles and much sticking plaster which commemorates the loss of the Wellington Bomber that was presented to said Cadet, who crashed in Stanley Village in 1942 killing all five crew. This resembled Jack in Navy News. service takes place at the War Memorial Dedicated in 2004 However, his and all the Cadets total which I organised with my local trustee hat of MOSVT enthusiasm, professionalism and spirit (Memories of Stanley Village). 2014 will be the tenth was tangible. As Cdr Jerry Hall RN Rtd, anniversary of the Dedication of the stand alone War the Unit President, and DS Member Memorial, and thus I have submitted a request to the BoBMF said; the opportunities provided by the for a Fly Past to celebrate this. The service is attended each staff of TS Kenya, the full support of the year by family of the crew who travel from Cumbria, North ex Service Assns in attendance tonight Yorkshire and Holland. For the original dedication we were and the families of the cadets is what very honoured and had the Lancaster Bomber, and in 2011 made it possible to pass on these life we had the Hurricane. The 2011 Flypast was in Honour of skills to the cadets so BZ everyone. The Royal Marines Freda Burton, who was the War Widow of the rear gunner of passed on a historic Royal Marines Uniform from the 1700’s the Wellington, and it was a splendid tribute to a wonderful which contained some original items. Due to the PC Brigade lady who was still full of life into her late 90’s; sadly Freda is mentioned above the previous RM owner of this wonderful no longer with us, but the family and many from around Derby piece of history was given the choice with regards his replica muster each year for this small commemoration and ensure rifle; The decree was to have the rifle destroyed but its we Do Still Remember Them. destruction was circumnavigated by being donated to the RM Did You Know . Real Cider grows on Trees . This quote is Museum at Eastney instead!! It is wonderful that the from CAMRA which is really the Campaign for Real Ale! As Nottingham RMA have made this kind gesture to TS Kenya, many know after 46 years a RBL Member and 37 years an and we look forward to the uniform in use!! active Poppy Seller and latterly a Poppy Appeal Organiser I

The dignitaries conducted an inspection and talked to all the have encouraged SOCA/SA/DS to enjoy a couple of hours at Cadets, and this was followed by the presentations, a Stand the CAMRA Beer Festival in Derby each Aug collecting. Like Easy and Raffle for Unit funds and the evening was concluded many other events it appears the age and infirmity and lack of just after nine O’clock with Evening Colours, before we new members to DS/SA we can no longer sustain this help to dispersed. Thank you to all DS who supported the cadets by the Poppy Appeal. I did it on my own this year and will turning up to this event. commit to 2014 but if you wish to help me with a guaranteed break to go and sample you will still be more than welcome. 13 THE FINAL BURIAL OF THE BUNTINGS BADGE After a muddled and confused disembarkation, some went 2013 saw the ceremonial burial at sea of the old crossed back to the pub (ref point ‘shipmate’), some went home, Juliet’s. The badge has been replaced by a new design to some went directly to the private function room booked at reflect the all encompassing integrated ops room branch. the Dolphin hotel, and some did both! This was an inspired The fact that it resembles a signal flag on a pole being addition to the day’s events which softened the blow to wives flushed down a toilet has been clearly overlooked by the and girlfriends as they could join in for a few hours (after powers to be. Its passing is somewhat symbolic of the they had shopped the city dry during the afternoon!). The destruction of the proud history that was buntingry. And so occasional entertainment from Biff, in his other magical we mourned its demise. On Sat 24 August 2013, the largest persona of Adamcadabra was well received! Unfortunately, contingent of buntings seen for many a while assembled in any chance of ‘joined up’ conversations deteriorated as the Southampton in lamenting the dear old badge that we all evening progressed, but all seemed to enjoy themselves. proudly wore. Background: In 1963, a farewell ceremony Did I enjoy it? Was it worth it? You bet your life it was. I was held in the Granada Bar, Gzira, Malta, met people I hadn’t seen in yonks, and took part in attended by many signalmen from the something unique that I shall not forget. Biff did a wonderful Fleet, together with Rear Admiral Viscount job and should be commended for what turned out to be a Kelburn, Flag Officer Malta; Capt Roaber fantastic day. © Summer Edition RNCA Magazine

Mackenzie, Capt D7; and Cdr Brian Editor : What a wonderful way to give your old branch Shattock, FCO. A signalman’s gold badge badge a fitting send off and definitely in style. The Gzira was duly cremated in a chalice of flaming badge to the left was adopted for the operation and the ormig juice and ‘buried’ with a suitable headstone. Many years later, Biff Burns and a colleague set out to find the original signal was reproduced in full in an earlier DD. ‘grave’ while alongside in Malta, but with no luck. To our The RNCA will in 2014 hold their reunion and AGM in disappointment we found an old overgrown pub back garden Nottingham 7-11 March but unfortunately it clashes with full of rubble, said Biff. The stone had apparently been another of my Associations Meetings; The Ton Class destroyed quite a few years back. Biff decided that another which is to be held in Derby the same weekend. ceremony, 50 years later, would be appropriate and set However I was impressed with some of the RNCA about organising this event. This time it would take place at information for their reunion in Nottingham!!

Spithead, at sea. At least no-one could destroy the site A Quiet Sunday Walk A Buntings Boozy Bash, A Sparkers there! Supping Session, A Gollies Tour of Historical Ale Houses. The Operation An Opgen Alfa was sent to all participants Leave hotel, turn right up St James Street to Standard (which brought memories flooding back) detailing the R/V, Hill/Standard Place, where King Charles 1st raised his /2/Initial RV 241000(Local) Aug 13 - the Admiral Sir Lucius standard on 25 Aug 1642 starting the Civil War. The Round Curtis Public House, Ocean Village,(reference point - House is situated in the building originally built to aid shipmate). The embarkation onboard MV Ocean Scene survivors of the Crimean War return to health. On leaving (OS) was scheduled for 1105-1135, so that left only one and turn right down Standard Hill towards the Castle and head to a half hours in the pub to meet up and say hello to everyone, The Castle Pub , originally the duty watch bar for the and 5 minutes to ‘leg it’ to the berth. Needless to say the bar garrison of the castle. Next turn left down Castle Road past was flamin’ busy from the off! There were many Notable the statues/plaques of Robin Hood and his merry men, to RNCA (Royal Navy Communications Assn) members The Trip to Jerusalem , Built in 1189, allegedly one of the attending with both a Southampton and Portsmouth oldest alehouses in England. On leaving, turn right, cross contingent. Also present was ‘Andy’ Andrews, 76 years old Castle Boulevard and turn right onto Wilford Street. Just by on the very day of this event, who was one of the original the Canal bridge is, The Navigation , allegedly built to supply ‘burial’ party along with Pete Fairchild. OS set sail from the needs of the navvies (navigators) building the canal. Ocean Village with 180 serving and ex-serving bunting Cross the road and walk beside the canal to, The Company tossers, along with Commodore Jamie Miller CBE RN and Inn (Lloyds No1/ Wetherspoons) built within one of the old the Padre, the Revd Honey-Morgan RN embarked. The British Waterways warehouses. After refreshing yourself Passage Plan took in the River Itchen with a marine police walk up beside the BT Building onto Canal Street, cross the escort, complete with blue flashing lights, then on to sea via road and head up Maid Marion Way to The Royal Children , Southampton North Channel before built in 1684 and used to accommodate Princess Ann and reaching Spithead (Ref point ‘Juliet’) her children. A whalebone in the bar indicates that oil for for the ceremony. lamps was sold here in the middle ages. Exit by the side door, turn left into The Salutation (full name The Archangel The service commenced with words Gabriel’s Salutation to the Virgin Mary) Built in 1240 it was and prayers from the padre, followed used as a recruiting station during the Civil War 1642-46. by a rousing rendition of Jerusalem Leave via the front entrance on to Maid Marion way, turn (thank goodness for backing tracks!). right up to Friar Lane, right down Friar Lane toward the The Commodore gave a very good Market Square, on arrival in the Square turn left into The speech which, on completion, Danny Streather said a few Bank whilst trading as a bank they still paid the public words in reply. Both were funny and very very true. An licence to sell intoxicants. On exiting turn left walk 100 archway was made by two people with semaphore Juliets yards, cross the road to Yate’s (Originally the Talbot Est and Tiny Little, casket and shackle in hand, stood ready 1680) Leaving Yates’s cross back over the road to The Bell , between them whilst the committal music played before Allegedly the oldest pub in Nottingham (According to Tony letting go of the branch No.1s badge of the late Chris Robinson & Time Team) Falling out of The Bell turn right up Rickard. After a period of reflection, the ‘Buntings Lord’s St James Street to The Roebuck (Wetherspoons). On Prayer’ was recited by all. On completion, the OS staggering out turn left up St James Street, over Maid proceeded to Portsmouth Harbour for a dockyard tour Marion Way and opposite the hotel is Chambers , where the following the US Navy submarine USS Virginia, and taking in legal profession used to hide for a quick lunch time pint. such sights as some T45 Destroyers. The boat then Fortunately Chambers is within crawling distance (25yards) ‘bimbled’ back to Ocean Village, Southampton, allowing of the hotel. How about that for a tour of Nottingham - 12 plenty of time for the completion of long winded but pubs, lots of history and all within a walk of less than 2km? enjoyable dits, with the occasional entertainment provided by Gus the assembled taking place. We arrived back at approx. 1800 (I say that, because I couldn’t focus on the watch face, Editor : My only pedantic complaint would be how far is 2km; but it looked about right). but after a run ashore like that who would care?

14 TRAFALGAR DINNER By You Know Who This was followed by the raffle draw so some people Well it that time of year again the Derbyshire went home with a Christmas present sorted, or decided submariner’s annual excuse for a drinky poo's; Oh! And that it was best not to take it home and start consuming it some scran! I myself set of as per norm on the fast bus there and then. There was the presentation of the Tom to Derby from jolly old Ilkeston, as this year I was not on Smith Memorial Trophy and, for those who do not know nights, and did not have to settle for a cheese and this is done in memory, of Tom Smith an ex WWII branch beetroot sandwich and a cup of coffee to keep me member. It is time to confess; whilst in Plymouth this awake. On arrival at Derby’s new bus station I year at the best reunion in the submarine service; namely disembarked and made my way to the Hallmark Inn for the Diesel Boat Reunion, myself and I used to be a beat my berth for the night, and on arrival Max and Sue were bobby you know, had a chat when the Rear Admiral went checking in along with Snowy from Sheffield who sadly off on his own little Exped. We suggested that the Rear was on his own, as his wife was not well. But, lucky for Admiral’s decision to exclude himself from voting as he him the Rear Admiral had fixed him up with a date for the had organised it was undemocratic. There could only be evening, and an ex Wren to boot. I will not give away the one winner this year, so the seeds were set so to speak. lady’s age, and yes, despite being an ex Wren she was So it came to pass that we spoke to other members, and definitely a lady, and all I will say is that Snowy enjoyed told them it was a free vote, and the reason we thought being a toy boy for the night!! On reaching my berth thus. So when the Rear Admiral asked the Captain to there was a knock at the door; I thought who could that open the envelope containing the name of the winner, the be? I have only been here 2 minutes, and even I can not look and Terry’s face was a picture. Also when his name pull that quickly!! Yes you have guessed; it was the Rear was announced I must mention the fact he nearly choked Admiral to give me a brief on the evening events, and on what he says was water! You see Terry, you do not wondering if I had seen the Captain of Ambush as he had know every thing that goes off in the DS. This not turn up yet, and he was waiting for him to do the announcement was followed by a standing ovation from count for the Tom Smith Memorial Trophy. I knew that all those present, who know how much work he does for was a waste of time, as I had a good idea on who had the DS, and believe it or not he was left speechless so he won that, but more on that later. look at his clip board for guidance, and that was no good either, because he had written a bit with a gap to fill in the After a bath and dhoby it was time to make my way name of the winner. It certainly was not an expectance across the road to the other half of the hotel were the speech, and I think he quickly moved on after excepting posh guests were booked in. On arrival, I spotted Elena the trophy to get out of something that happened which and Ken just arriving, so I gave one of them a kiss! Sorry was not on his clip board!! Ken there is a limit; even if you are Derbyshire Submariners President!!! I then reported to the Rear The roses were given out by the Captain and the Sub Admiral to get my name ticked off on his trusty clip board, Lieutenant to all the ladies present. The Rear Admiral and to inform him who I had seen, like I had been briefed had advised that the newly married CPO was excused earlier. At this point I was pressed ganged into some this onerous duty especially with his bride of less than a raffle ticket by I used to be a beat bobby you know, and week sat next to him, and besides he had already the other ex Wren who is a lady: his wife Rita. He did endured a once in a wifetime experience that week!! It inform me he had left his truncheon beside the bed as he was noted that Jim Hunt took 2 home for Anne, I think was not staying the night at the hotel. After a short while one was to try his luck with, and if that did not work he and the Rear Admiral was content that everybody was was going to take the other to Oak & Acorn pub and try ticked off, we began the evening. There was then that there!! The cake for the evening had to be cut so who sound again of a kettle boiling, a pipe I think it is called? better to cut it then the newly weds, as they were the And at that point the Rear Admiral announced hands to most recently qualified cake cutters. Plus the bride had dinner, stand fast Mr President and your wife please. to earn the bouquet of flowers. It was then time for the Just after this the Rear Admiral went running, Oh, alright! customary dit spinning and, on my table we had walked briskly down the corridor after the DS President managed to consume our port, so I being an observant and his wife who had not listened to his instructions again rating, I spotted half a decanter on table 4 , the SAS and this was the second time this year. Ken, I think one would have been proud of me how I went over and swapped it for our empty. Alright, I did ask first, more time and you may not be given any more jobs as you were meant to wait and go in with the CO of Ambush The group that was left moved berths to the bar, where a to be piped to the top table by the CO and Cadets of TS matelot with a lot of money was buying a round; Three Kenya Sea Cadets. cheers to the captain. The majority stayed there until about 01:30 hrs, when some of us started making our The Rear Admiral then got into full flow with his way to our berth for the night, me included. I awoke the microphone. We were all listening, honest Terry. Grace next morning, and realised it must have been alright as was then said. I would like to point out the person who my clothes were all over the deck. I made myself a pre said grace was slightly older than Terry and female, was breakfast drink of black coffee and 2 Paracetamol a Sgt in WWII and she did not need a microphone, I rest chasers. The breakfast was good, & I was joined by Max my case. The meal progressed without incident, the and Sue who were unsure as to what time they had left newly weds on my table managed to keep their hands off the bar, but like myself had enjoyed there evening. The each other, I know because I was watching, [I know you whole event was again well organised, mainly by you can get arrested for that] Editor It sounds like a touch of know who. My opinion is there could not be a more jealousy to me Tony? After a short interlude it was time deserving winner of the Tom Smith Memorial Trophy and, to ease springs before the speeches started and toasts. I can just imagine what Ann said when he get home and All this of course, after the port had been passed for the announced that he had got something for her to polish; first time. The Captain of Ambush, Cdr Justin Codd RN and then showed her the Trophy before she said No. told the one about Nelson with an up to date twist and Well that is it for another year; it will be the Christmas mentioned Twitter and Face Book. I am not sure how dinner soon, so come on Terry let get it sorted; only much of his audience are on either of those social media joking mate. Tony Greaves sites, not many I tend to think? 15 THE LAST POST REMEMBRANCE PROGRAMME DERBY 2013

The ‘Last Post’ is either a bugle call within British Infantry Tues 22 October 10am RBL Ilkeston outside Service of regiments or a trumpet call in British Cavalry and Royal Remembrance Park Cemetery, Park Road junction Regiment of Artillery (Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Cantelupe Rd, Ilkeston. I attended this service representing Artillery) used at Commonwealth military funerals and DS with our Standard. The War Memorial Cross was ceremonies commemorating those who have been killed completely surrounded by Poppy Crosses laid by the in war. The two regimental traditions have separate children with the announcement of all those on the Memorial music for the call; The infantry bugle version is better from Ilkeston. The rain stopped just before the service and known, the cavalry trumpet version is used by the state re-commenced on completion! I did congratulate the Vicar trumpeters of the Household Cavalry. Wartime Use ; on his influence!

The Last Post call (2nd Post) is used in British Army Tuesday 22 October 11am RBL Ilkeston Service of camps to signal the end of day when the duty officer Remembrance, All Saints Church, Ladywood Road, Kirk returns from the tour of the camp and quarters. The ‘First Hallam. Again I attended both the Church and the Post’ call marks the start of the inspection. The names Churchyard Service with our Standard. Not only were CWG are derived from the practice of inspecting all the sentry marked by a Cross by the Children with a prayer from the posts around such a camp at the end of the day, and vicar but even a Boer War casualty grave was so honoured. playing a call at each of them. In addition to its normal The Vicars Influence again saw a lull in the rain, but not so garrison use, the Last Post call had another function at for the rest of the day when I was delivering Poppies the close of a day of battle. It signalled to those who Friday 08 November 10am . Friends of Chaddesden Park were still out and wounded or separated that the fighting organised by Harry Mycroft and Nancy and involves at least was done, and to follow the sound of the call to find seven local schools. Ex Servicemen are invited to act as a safety and rest. Its use in Remembrance Day Squad Leader and mentor individual schools from the car ceremonies in Commonwealth nations has two generally park to march up past the Mayor and other dignitaries at the unexpressed purposes: The first is an implied War Memorial and back again. There is an award for the summoning of the spirits of the Fallen to the cenotaph, smartest school as judged by the Mayor. The open air the second is to symbolically end the day, so that the service is followed by Tea and Biscuits in one of the adjacent period of silence before the Rouse is blown becomes in Friends buildings. Standards are welcome as are Veterans effect a ritualized night vigil. This custom dates from at to march in the Vets squad. Good support encourages least the 17th century, and originated with British troops children with the concept of Remembrance. DE21 6LN stationed in The Netherlands, where it drew on an older Dutch custom, called taptoe, from which comes the term Sunday 10 November 11am Most City, Town and Villages have their own services supported by our members. The Tattoo as in Military tattoo, and also the term Taps. The City of Derby is supported by DS with a wreath being laid by taptoe was also used to signal the end of the day, but has Derbyshire Submariners. Individual details as issued by more prosaic origin. Taptoe originated signalling the Councils who are the Civic leaders in this National Memorial moment that beer taps had to be shut, hence that the day Service. DE1 3AE had ended. It comes from the Dutch phrase Doe den tap toe, meaning ‘Close the tap’: However the Dutch bugle Monday 11 November 10am Derbyshire Submariners call Taptoesignaal, now used for remembrance events, is Annual Homage to two WWI Submariners. Meet at the main not the same tune as the Last Post. Neither Last Post gate entrance Nottingham Road, DE21 6FP . We escort the nor Taptoesignaal is to be confused with the U.S. call Mayor of Derby in convoy down to the first grave; ERA John ‘Taps’, which has a similar function but different tune and Brooks C16 grave. thence onto the grave of Signalman origin. The ‘Last Post ’ was used by British forces in Charles Buttle C25 which is near Soldiers Corner. After the North America in colonial times, but its function was two short services we adjourn to Soldiers Corner a short walk away. taken over in the United States by ‘Taps’, which has been used by the United States Army since 1862. Monday 11 November 10:45am Derby City Council Assemble at the Commonwealth War Graves at Soldiers Memorial Usage During the 19th century, the ‘Last Post ’ Corner. Anyone requiring directions please contact me for was also carried to the various countries of the British an email map which contains brief information on the loss of Empire. In all these countries it has been incorporated the two submariners interned in the into military funerals, where it is played as a final farewell, cemetery. I had discussions with DCC symbolising the fact that the duty of the dead soldier is Staff on site and as a concession to age over and that they can rest in peace. The ‘ Last Post ’ is and infirmity they will allow exit straight used in public ceremonials commemorating the war down from Soldiers corner onto dead, particularly on Remembrance Day in the Nottingham Road opposite Reginald Road Chaddesden, Commonwealth of Nations. In Australia and New Zealand DE21 6ND . Please take care crossing this busy road whether walking or driving to the Jubilee Club. it is also played on Anzac Day usually before the two- minute silence, which concludes with the rouse. When Monday 11 November From 11:15am Derbyshire the post is played during services such as Anzac Day it is Submariners On completion of the Soldiers Corner you are required of all current serving military members to salute invited to join the Mayor of Derby and socialise at the Jubilee for the duration of the call. During services organised by Club, Morley Road, Chaddesden, Derby, DE21 6LJ . This is the Royal British Legion the recommendation is that no very much an informal gathering where tea or coffee and bar salute is given by either officers or troops as during the will be available. We will hold a raffle to cover expenses and ‘Last Post ’ and Silence the recommendation is that all we take this opportunity to thank the Committee and Jubilee troops will have removed head dress (as in church Club Members for opening specially for this occasion at a service prayer), have heads bowed, weapons inverted, lunchtime, and sharing their club with the ex Service with flags and standards lowered. Community. The event is open to all, and we feel a nice conclusion to the Remembrance Time in fitting company. Remember those lost and harmed while serving their country. Also remember those who have served and Please note I have endeavoured to put in postcodes too the returned; and for those presently serving in the Armed locations for Satnav users but as with all electronics please be Forces. aware of roughly where you are travelling too beforehand.

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SAIL WELFARE NEWS (BENEFITS UPDATE 2013 Sail kindly supplies us with their Benefit updates. SAIL who focus mainly on fishermen and merchant seafarers, but they are able to help serving & former RN & RM personnel via referrals from the White Ensign Association (WEA). (http://www.whiteensign.co.uk). However primarily SAIL is a specialist telephone advice service for merchant seafarers, fishermen & their families and dependants. The seafarer’s advice and information line (formerly known as Seafarers Benefits Advice Line) is a UK based advice service operated by Greenwich Citizens Advice Bureaux Ltd (GCAB) on behalf of Seamen’s Hospital Society. They provide free independent impartial and confidential advice by telephone, email post or fax . SAIL posts updates on Facebook page: www.facebook.com/Seafarers.Advice (Cut and paste to Browser) 4th Quarter 2013 END START DATE WHAT’S HAPPENING BENEFIT DATE Incapacity Benefit (IB) October 2010 The transfer of IB to claimants to Employment and Support Allowance March (ESA) is still causing problems. ESA appeals are more than all the 2014 other benefit appeals combined. Housing Benefit (HB) April 2013 The Bedroom Tax is causing many former seafarers a great deal of financial stress. Most would like to move to smaller accommodation but it’s not available. Council Tax Support (CTS) April 2013 CTS changes have impacted many seafarers but the extent is much less than the Bedroom Tax. People living in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are not affected. Social Fund Changes April Use of food banks across the UK is up sharply after these changes. 2013 Scotland kept most of the Social Fund in place. Personal Independence April 2013 Now that all new claims for working age disabled people are of PIP, 2018 Payment SAIL is seeing more former seafarers having difficulty with the (PIP) claiming process. NI has not introduced PIP yet. Universal Credit (UC) April 2013 The UC roll out remains at a slow pace. Eventually this benefit will 2017 have a huge impact, but for now only single unemployed people in certain trial areas can claim UC. Most DWP Benefits 28 Oct 2013 When you disagree with a DWP benefit decision you will not be able to appeal straight away. Instead, first there’ll be a mandatory reconsideration. This will delay the appeal and hit ESA claimants particularly hard.

Jobseekers Allowance JSA April 2014 Changes in JSA claimant requirements start; increased waiting period, English lessons, need for a CV etc. New conditions for the long term unemployed were announced recently by the coalition. School Meals Sept 2014 Every child in reception, Year 1 & 2 will receive free school lunches Childcare Vouchers Autumn 2015 Childcare vouchers will help to part fund childcare costs where both parents are working. This scheme will replace the current employer sponsored one Housing Benefit 2015 Labour has pledged to scrap the Bedroom Tax if it forms the next Gov For further advice please contact the relevant benefits centre as these benefits are handled by a mixture of local authorities, JobCentrePlus, HMRC and Dept Work & Pensions, NOT SAIL Sail have kindly given permission for their article to printed in this newsletter for information only

LUNCH CLUBS 2014 DERBYSHIRE SUBMARINRS CONSULTATION Members Name______

No Venue Location Score Remarks or Comments 1 Adm Sir John Warren Ilkeston All these venues have been used in the past. Please score each venue to the following criteria. The idea of 2 Bartlewood Lodge (Carvery) Spondon this survey is to ensure we are using the venues you 3 Cat & Fiddle (Hungry Horse) Kirk Hallam want. Thus if you do not attend lunch clubs, please do 4 Kings Corner Oakwood not respond, but if you would for example only attend one or two which are near your home, thence please 5 Master Locksmith Derby Meteor X complete those applicable, even if only to put your 6 May Sum Chinese Buffet Derby Centre score in to indicate the most popular venues you who attend and want. Please score as follows: 7 Newdigate Arms West Hallam 5 Definitely one of my Favourites 8 Oak & Acorn Oakwood (Maximum of three with a score of 5) 9 Paddock, (Hungry Horse) Derby 10 Queens Head, Ockbrook Ockbrook 3 Definitely if Able 11 The New Inn * Little Eaton 2 Yes because it’s a DS Lunch Club 12 The Park (Toby Carvery) Chaddesden 13 The Peregrine Chaddesden 1 Maybe 14 The Queens Head L.Eaton * Little Eaton 0 I would definitely not visit this venue 15 Windmill Inn Breadsall Hilltop Blank (All Blank spaces will assume this score) * Indicates not visited in over two years Please return to Secretary before the beginning of December to enable 2014 programme to be considered ASAP Results will be used as a guidance to the most popular venues which can only be based on YOUR returns!

17 TRAFALGAR DINNER PART TWO We then undertook the Presentation of the Iconic Thank you to Tony for covering this event on page 15. At Derbyshire Submariner Tom Smith Memorial Trophy was this event we meet up in the Lounge Bar of the Hallmark made and this has been covered by Tony but I reiterate my Hotel which is I confess expensive but at least it is only thanks mentioned on page one. We had a limited edition once a year. The Prime guest, Cdr Justin Codd RN the Wrens Picture donated to us by the Dauntless Assn as a CO of HMS Ambush, and our President with his wife were sponsor of one of the ‘Snail piped into Dinner by the TS Kenya Piping Party which is Races’ due at their reunion on much appreciated. As I always say I act the Bunting the first weekend of November. waving my hands around for the health and safety When we sponsored it we domestics brief and with having the smaller room we did thought it was the traditional not need bag meals to get to the toilets like last year! The horse race so we named our PA system is used as a short speech is fine but when you race ‘The Derbyshire are Master of Ceremonies talking most of the evening I Submariners Steaks’. Well have found in the past that I have no voice left by the end they could be French Steaks!! This was framed and of the evening and that is nothing to do with the bottle of presented to Julie Holland by Rita as the Derbyshire Red Wine I sit and relax with after the event. As Tony Wrens Secretary but in thanks for all the support Julie observed my intake during the evening is matched with gives to Derbyshire Submariners. Most members have water for which I was very grateful when Cdr Codd made benefited from her croqueting skills and she always the Submariner Trophy announcement! Grace was ensures all members get a little gift at Christmas which are undertaken by a very treasures especially given the work and skill involved. appropriately named Julie Holland one of I then had the satisfaction of getting my own back on the our Associate Chairman for changing the rules surreptitiously with Members before we regards the Submariner Trophy! We are all very aware sat down for Dinner. that without our women folk many activities would not be Everyone I spoke to possible and as I stated the secretary’s job is keeping bar one thought the everyone informed which meant some on the Executive meal this year Committee namely President, Chair & Vice Chair did excelled last years receive more phone calls than most and normally despite being a similar menu. We have traditional soup answered by their respective secretary wife. So as a token and Melon for the Veggie option and alternate Prawn to all wives of members I asked the President and Chair to Cocktail and Pate with the Prawn Cocktail on this year. present a bouquet of flowers to their respective spouse but Dinner is a choice of Beef, Chicken or Salmon with somehow I was totally ignored (yet again) and a little bit of vegetables, and no takers for the vegetarian option. wife swapping took place! Each year we present a ‘Rose Pudding was traditional Apple Pie & Custard, Ice Cream or Stem’ to our ladies to thank them Cheese Board and the Cheese board was a meal in itself for putting up with us throughout and absolutely excellent. the year. We ask our visiting Submariners to undertake this Following Dinner we undertook the Trafalgar Dinner Raffle pleasant task, though we did which was kindly organised by John & Rita Sayers. Most excuse one newly wedded CPO so people enjoyed their prizes and some did not make it as not to cause him any grief!!. home. Whilst this was going on the four DS cut glass Those members on their own, are decanters were filled with Port by the hotel staff. I would also given one to take home and like to take this opportunity to thank David Croasdale the this has been covered by Tony in Manager of the Hallmark Hotel and Ricki who personally his very comprehensive report. We looks after us on these events including the personal then had the cutting of the Trafalgar setting out of our room for which he does a splendid job Cake which as stated was which is most appreciated. The first toast saw the port on undertaken by CPO Darren & Jennie Doherty and I each table uncorked by the serving submariners and reiterate our DS congratulations on their wedding that Trevor Williamson who had flown in from the USA to week and our best wishes for the future. We made a attend with his Derby family and presentation of a bouquet of flowers to Jennie and awaited remember Grandpappy who the cake to be sectored and served; and everyone agreed served on Holland I. The toast it really was worth waiting for. I then concluded the was taken by our President, Ken evening with a farewell and thank you to everyone for Holtham a WWII survivor of the attending and my feedback has all been positive and sinking in 1942 of the Submarine enjoyed. We particularly thank Cdr Justin Codd RN and Sahib in the Med. Thence it was his crew for making the long journey down from Faslane to the Immortal Memory speech by visit their adopted City of Derby and were really Cdr Codd which was excellent appreciative of his time and company and being as he only followed by the silent Toast. As a token of our thanks to just took over command of Ambush in June and given her the Captain we made a presentation of an Ambush Mug very busy programme it was a wonderful privilege to host which were commissioned by us for Ambush’s launch and you to Derby Sir. a small personal Derbyshire Submariners Plaque. The full I would like to add a few other thank you’s with regards our size DS Plaque was presented to Ambush at the Trafalgar Dinner and people who made it so. I thank all commissioning on 1 March this year and you can only fit our members who support this event, and also those who so many plaques on a boat! Finally we had toast to the travelled long distances to attend, and/or to support their Submarine Service and Submariner, undertaken by our family especially Trevor from the USA, Martyn from Chairman, Mr John Sayers which was also preceded by an Germany, The Crew from Scotland, and friends from excellent short speech. Sheffield, Shropshire and certainly from Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire. 18 A particular thank you to all those who donated raffle WRNS COFFEE MORNING 18 October 2013 prizes for on the night and for the forthcoming Monday They always say the sun shines down on the righteous! 11/11 Coffee Morning event at 11:15hrs at the Jubilee Well the sun did not exactly shine, but at least it stayed dry Club, Morley Rd, Chaddesden. for this event which is important for attendance! I confess by the time I got into Derby, and parked up, it was rather A particular thanks to The Hallmark Hotel & Hallmark late in the day to join the event, but in mitigation this was Inn, Midland Road, Derby, including the Manager David due to running around sorting out things for our Trafalgar Croasdale, and all the Staff who look after us so well, and Dinner that evening. Also a visit earlier in the week to are all particularly professional, and delightful to work with. Derby to the indoor market (a rare occasion to me these Flowers by Joy , (01332) 344594 at 97 Market Hall (Next days) with our Chairman had revealed a bag on display to Guildhall) Derby, our sole supplier of Bouquets and outside a fishing shop had revealed a very suitable looking Rose stems going back many years to the 1990’s when we Rod Holdall which was the right size and quality for a used to entertain HMS/M Sovereign. Cake Décor & Standards Bag for under £20. I have it on good authority Cameo Cupcakes (01332) 205504/208141 at 9 Theatre from Peter the previous one was fine until the Acting Local Walk, Derby in the old Eagle Centre Market opposite the stand in Standard Bearer was found guilty of putting the bus station. The cake did not only look exquisite it tasted it flag in the bag pointy end down. As I feel suitably too. The last three we have had have been fruit cakes and admonished and have promised not to do it again we will it must be the spirit that goes into them as I find most not go there. What was really strange though was the people are burbling a little by the time they eat it!! shop stated that a chap had been in an hour ago to purchase an identical bag for the purpose of carrying The Programmes and place settings and table mats are around a ‘Standard’ which appeared to intrigue him! only possible due to Tony Greaves kind donation for a Leaving the market I tottered over to the Council House to state of the art Epson Professional printer to DS find our illustrious Chairman John manning the doors for Submariners which saves us a fortune on the professional the WRNS, and thence in tottered Jim Hunt making a printers we have used for this event in the past so thanks submariners trio; and thence we were joined by Peter to Tony. I would also like to thank my mate Roger Wood Johnson just making sure the amateur was looking after who converted from being an amateur Wildlife the Standard. Peter is on sick leave with regards the Photographer for the night to provide us with excellent Standard whilst problems with his hip are investigated by photographs. Maybe he did not spot the Wildlife Derby Royal, but is hoping to be back in the loop in time Anyway he has provided us with an array of difference? for Remembrance Weekend. We certainly wish him well photographs for the evening and given us full copyright. for a speedy recovery back to full mobility soon. They are very large high end photos of approx 3mb each so to distribute I have reduced them all to approx 500kb TRAF MEMORIAL SVC 18 October 2013 each which will be sufficient to produce normal prints. All 11:30 saw an early exodus from the coffee morning for the 90 photographs are on one CD , and I will run them off as Noon Trafalgar Plinth and Oak Tree riverside service required, and post out to you. To cover the DS costs , post alongside the River Derwent opposite the Council House in and the CD’s, we would be grateful if you would donate a Derby. The Standards were assembled to march down to minimum of £2 per CD made payable to Derbyshire the Riverside to escort the Mayor of Derby and Civic Submariners. I am happy for DS Members to add this to Leaders and guests. The normal format was undertaken their DS Renewal Subscription next month if appropriate. with a short service in memory of ALL Seafarers who have If any images are not of a high enough resolution on the crossed over the bar. The wreaths were laid and there CD let me know and I can of course supply them to you was a good spread in the Derby Evening Telegraph for us with pleasure (Via email if applicable) just quote the to read the following morning. I was perturbed at the reference on the image please. decision/order to do a Full Dip given the wet conditions, and this has caused mud marks on the Standard, despite Of Course The Obvious Question is what do DS want to me trying to keep the Standard up as much as possible. do for next year? Please let Given the cost of the Standard (Circa £900) I will bring this me have your feedback as any up that the Standard Bearer can have permission to Fall venue will need to be booked Out if this re-occurs as we are charged with the care of our at the latest by the early New Standard and orders such as this go against that principle. Year. Some venues will You cannot wash the Standards, and trying to clean them require a minimum number by amateur means could spoil them. I think I tried once to such as the Spot, and enquire about Dry Cleaning, but it would have been at our realistically we are now in the own risk. This may be the way we have to go in the future low numbers. Any ideas or if we can find a professional business to undertake the suggestions welcome to be task. discussed at the Friday 29 November Committee Meeting. DS STANDARD BEARER UPDATE Peter Johnson is still under the hospital for treatment due SUBSCRIPTIONS 2014 to his mobility problems but the good news is they seem to That dreaded time of year approaches fast! Subscriptions think it is a muscle problem and not a new hip job. To err for 2014 for both Derbyshire Submariners and SA if on the side of caution until Peter is P2 again, we will swap applicable become due on 31 December. DS is £12.50 places at the Chaddesden Children’s Service with me per year and SA an additional £7.50 on top. Due to the doing the marching with the Standard & Peter looking after distribution of Membership Cards this means either Dec or Chaddesden Park Junior School. The Standard will be Jan will have to be ‘ An All Member Posting ’ to every taken by me to Ilkeston Rugby Club on Sat 9/11for their on member which is a heavy post commitment so please pitch Remembrance Service, and Peter feels he can cope ensure you look carefully in the envelope for the relevant with the limited marching duties in Derby Remembrance card/s. As normal if you are not renewing or have any Sunday (I will be on hand if required) and undertake the problems please contact me soonest and advise as it is Submariners WWI Services and Soldiers Corner on 11/11 better to have an answer before I have to ask the question. in Nottingham Road Cemetery 19 DERBYSHIRE SUBMARINERS DIARY SA K13 MEMORIAL WEEKEND FASLANE JAN 2014 Gents it is that time of year again when we start to organise the K13 Memorial Weekend. The event will take place on the weekend of Fri 24th to Sun 26th Jan 2014. It is important that we get an idea of the numbers attending from your branch as soon as possible so that Base access and cabins can be organised. The weekend will cost the same as last year (£15 per person). The guest speaker for the Saturday evening dinner is Rear Admiral Mathew Parr ComOps/RASM. Details of the weekend programme will be sent to you later although it

will not be different from previous years!! I would appreciate it 30 Oct DS Luncheon Club – Windmill, Breadsall Hilltop if you could now start to canvas your members and let me know how many will be attending. The information required for those attending is: Full name (no nicknames), nationality, gender, date of birth. Thank you for your help in this matter. we look forward to your visit. Regards JMcM 1 Nov DS Meeting . Meeting Cancelled See 29 Nov Editor: Please remember this visit is only open to full SA (Due to DS Annual Weekend in Pompey ) Members. If you do intend to undertake this visit you must

1-4 Nov Dauntless Weekend Southsea, Portsmouth book early to have security checked out and late bookings will Designated DS Run Ashore ! not be considered so it is better to get snowed off than not

3 Nov Submariners Embankment Parade have a booking. Any questions or queries let me know .

08 Nov Annual Chadd Pk Children’s Service MEMBERSHIP OF DERBYSHIRE SUBMARINERS 10 Nov Remembrance Sunday (See article Page 13) There is no immediate threat; but when DS was formed it was

11 Nov Armistice Day – Nottm Road Soldiers Corner decided to run as long as we are able, thence wither on the See detailed Programme Col 2 Page 13 vine; as we dwindle in numbers. We unfortunately do not

11 Nov DS Armistice Day Coffee Morning Jubilee Club attract new Submariners to join us. We are aware of many ex On completion of Soldiers Corner Service 11:15 Submariners in Rolls Royce, (Lots and lots) and we get second hand reports that some enjoy reading Derbyshire 27 Nov DS Luncheon Club – The John Warren, Ilkeston Deeps! (DD), but they have no interest in joining us. Of the 29 Nov DS Meeting . Jubilee Club Chad, Fri 12:00 (NEW) last seven new membership application forms and information (This will be a combined Nov/Dec Meeting ) pack sent out this year, only one new member has joined . The bottom line is with the cost of production of DD, and especially postage charges, the £12.50 annual Derbyshire subs does not even cover the cost of production; and my

06 Dec DS Meeting . Meeting Cancelled See 29 Nov time is free. We are finding difficulties in manning Coffee (Cancelled as clash with Christmas Lunch ) Mornings and events, due to health, aging membership, and availability. These events are of course our only source of 06 Dec Derbyshire Submariners Chrimbo Bash income, but they do need member’s participation to achieve. The Park, Chaddesden has been booked and booking form and information on page 17 I do not believe putting the cost of membership up is the answer! Some members do over subscribe at renewal, but the bottom line is what is DS membership worth to you? It has been suggested to take the Newsletter off the Internet Web Site to deny it to none DS Members; but the purpose of this webpage is mainly to make it accessible to our own On- 03 Jan DS Meetings . No January Meeting Held Line Members, which saves an awful lot of cost, and covers

08 Jan Bonus Lunch Club to see in 2014. Ockbrook the shortfall of the subs to cover the cost of newsletter to our

20 Jan D&D Ex Svc AGM Council House 10:30am none online members who’s only understanding of On Line is on a Monday, when the wife has done the washing!. My 26 Jan K13 Remembrance Weekend, Faslane feedback is you like the Newsletter (a lot it seems) but it is a 07 Feb DS Meeting . Jubilee Club Chad, Fri 12:00 continuing balancing act to raise funds and give value for 07 Mar DS Meeting . Jubilee Club Chad, Fri 12:00 money. We need new blood, and we are an informal group;

29 Mar SA AGM/Reunion Full SA Members Only TBA and you can participate in as little, or as much as you wish. We believe the newsletter is worth the subscription alone, and 03 Apr DS AGM TS Kenya 19:00 (Possible Clash?) if you are an ex submariner living or with Derbyshire roots 03 Apr Re-launch of HMS/M Alliance, HMS Dolphin2 (and reading this ) please give us a go by joining, and give us 14 Apr D&D Ex Svc Meeting Council House 10:30am your support by being a member to see if it suits?

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