Appendices Cabinet Report 21-05-13 Regarding Ysgol Llidiardau

Appendices

Cabinet Report 21-05-13 Regarding Ysgol Llidiardau

Order Document 1 Statutory Consultation Document 2 Statutory Consultation Meeting Minutes 3 Children and Young People Consultation Analysis and Council’s Response to Comments Received During the Statutory 4 Consultation Period

Appendix 1

Ysgol Llidiardau Statutory Consultation Document

STATUTORY CONSULTATION

YSGOL LLIDIARDAU

18 MARCH - 26 APRIL, 2013

www.gwynedd.gov.uk CONTENTS

Page Letter from the Head of Education 3

1. Introduction – The Consultation Explained 4

2. Background Details 6 2.1 How was this proposal developed? 6 2.2 Discussions with the school 6

3. Details of the schools 7-10 3.1 Ysgol Llidiardau 7 3.2 Ysgol Crud y Werin 7 3.3 The catchment area situation 8 3.4 Schools’ Background Details Table 9 3.5 Map of the area 10

4. Evaluation of the Various Options 11-13 4.1 Retain the ‘status quo’ 11 4.2 Collaboration / Federal Model 11 4.3 Closure of Ysgol Llidiardau and provision made for the pupils at Ysgol 12 Crud y Werin, Aberdaron 4.4 Comparing the Models 13

5. The Proposal 14-19 5.1 Why recommend the closure of Ysgol Llidiardau? 14 5.2 Class Sizes 14 5.3 Pupil Numbers 15 5.4 Quality of the Education 16 5.5 Leadership and Staffing 16 5.6 The Community 16 5.7 The Welsh Language 17 5.8 Financial Resources and Buildings 18 5.9 Geographical Factors 19

6. Implications of the Proposal 20

7. Statutory Process Schedule and Next Steps 23

Response Form

2 Pennaeth Addysg Head of Education Dewi R. Jones

Gofynnwch am / Ask for: Swyddfa Trefniadaeth Ysgolion School Organisation Office  (01286) 679247  [email protected]  [email protected]

18 March 2013

Dear Consultee,

During March and April 2013 we are undertaking a period of statutory consultation on a proposal for the closure of Ysgol Llidiardau. After the consultation, we shall submit a report on the findings to the Cabinet of Gwynedd Council during May 2013.

At its full meeting on 27 February 2013, the Cabinet of Gwynedd Council resolved to undertake a statutory consultation period in accordance with the requirements of Section 29 of the Schools Standards and Framework Act 1998 on the closure of Ysgol Llidiardau on 31 August 2013.

The statutory consultation on this proposal aims to serve the community of Ysgol Llidiardau, Rhoshirwaun.

Here is the consultation document for your attention.

Please note that the statutory meetings schedule is laid out in this statutory consultation paper.

A copy of this document, and other background papers, are available on the Council website www.gwynedd.gov.uk/schoolorganisation, and in your local school and library. If you require further copies you are welcome to contact us by telephone on (01286) 679247 or by e-mailing us at [email protected]

PLEASE NOTE – any comments on the statutory document should be sent to the School Organisation Office by 13:00 on Friday 26 April 2013. See the relevant contact details at the end of this statutory consultation paper.

Sincerely,

Dewi R. Jones Head of Education

3 GWYNEDD COUNTY COUNCIL

PROPOSAL TO CLOSE YSGOL LLIDIARDAU ON 31 AUGUST 2013 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 29 OF THE SCHOOL STANDARDS AND FRAMEWORK ACT 1998 STATUTORY CONSULTATION PAPER

1. INTRODUCTION – THE CONSULTATION EXPLAINED

1.1. Gwynedd Council is considering the closure of Ysgol Llidiardau, Rhoshirwaun on 31 August 2013 and making provision for the pupils at Ysgol Crud y Werin, Aberdaron from 1 September 2013.

1.2. At its full meeting on 27 February 2013, the Cabinet of Gwynedd Council resolved to undertake a statutory consultation period in accordance with the requirements of Section 29 of the School Standards and Framework Act 1998 on the closure of Ysgol Llidiardau on 31 August 2013 and provision being made for the pupils at Ysgol Crud y Werin, Aberdaron.

1.3. Before proceeding with the proposal, Gwynedd Council wishes to obtain your views so that they can be considered before a decision is taken.

1.4. This period of statutory consultation will be held between 18 March 2013 and 26 April 2013.

1.5. The Council will consult with the following with regard to the proposal:  The staff of the relevant schools  The governors of the relevant schools  Parents/guardians of pupils at the relevant schools  Pupils of the relevant schools  Other relevant agencies and consultees

1.6. Meetings will be held as follows:

Meeting Staff Governors Parents

4:00pm 5:00pm 6:30pm Ysgol Llidiardau 22/4/2013 22/4/2013 22/4/2013 Timetable for Statutory Consultation Meetings

1.7. Arrangements have also been made for obtaining the views of children and young people.

1.8. Your views will be considered by the Cabinet before a decision is taken on the next steps. The Council Cabinet will decide in May whether a Statutory Notice should be issued or not.

4 1.9. As part of the consultation process, a background information pack is available at Ysgol Llidiardau, Pwllheli and Nefyn libraries, AS well as on the Council’s website www.gwynedd.gov.uk/schoolorganisation. The pack will include: - Assembly Circular 021/2009 School Organisation Proposals - ‘Excellent Primary Education for the Children of Gwynedd’ Strategy - Review of the Schools Reorganisation Strategy Implementation - Priorities Plan - Reorganisation of Education Provision - Linguistic Impact Assessment Report - Community Impact Assessment Report - Equality Assessment Report - Cabinet Report 27 February 2013 - Cabinet Decision Notice on 27 February 2013 - Newsletter

1.10. If you wish to receive the document in a different format, please contact the School Organisation Office on 01286 679247.

1.11. You are welcome to present comments during the statutory meetings or to submit a written response using the response form at the centre of this document.

1.12. Written observations on this proposal should be sent by e-mail to: [email protected] or by post for the attention of:

Schools Organisation Office, Gwynedd Council, Headquarters, Caernarfon, Gwynedd. LL55 1SH

1.13. Comments should be sent by 13:00 on 26 April 2013 at the latest. Any comments, by post or by e-mail, should reach the Council by the above time and date at the latest.

5 2. BACKGROUND DETAILS

2.1. How was this proposal developed?

2.1.1. The Strategy “Excellent Primary Education for Children in Gwynedd” was put before a full meeting of Gwynedd Council on 2 April 2009. The Strategy was unanimously approved by the Full Council.

2.1.2. At its meeting on 9 October 2012, the Cabinet agreed on the ‘Priorities Plan - Reorganisation of Education Provision ’ based on this strategy.

2.1.3. The strategy notes the need for ensuring that attention be given to some schools which are in a vulnerable situation: “Relevant professional information should be discussed in order to draw attention to critical situations within the County which directly affect the quality of the education and the experiences of the pupils (e.g. very low numbers at the school, the school buildings in very poor condition, failure to recruit a head teacher)”.

2.1.4. There has been a pattern of low numbers at Ysgol Llidiardau for a number of years, and now the situation is very vulnerable.

2.2. Discussions with the school

2.2.1. Over a period of time, discussions have taken place between the Ysgol Llidiardau Governing Body and the Education Department regarding the school’s future over a period of time – with further discussions on the matter having been held lately.

2.2.2. At a meeting early in the year (January 2013) the parents of Ysgol Llidiardau supported the decision taken by the Governors to voluntarily close the school, for the benefit of the pupils.

2.2.3. It was noted that the discussion should be taken forward since the school is in a vulnerable situation:

• The numbers at the school are a cause for concern. In september 2012 the number of pupils registered at the school was 14

• Projected numbers – Projections show 14 pupils in 2013, 15 pupils in 2014 and 16 pupils in 2015 and 2016

• Number of surplus places - 75% surplus places (43 in number) at Ysgol Llidiardau.

• Ysgol Llidiardau receives an additional sum to the customary allocation through the minimum staffing protection policy. During the financial year 2012/2013 this additional sum totalled £17,534 – sufficient to employ a Head Teacher and an assistant only.

• The cost per pupil at Ysgol Llidiardau is £8,544 (2012/2013), in comparison to the County average cost per pupil of £3,838 for the same period.

6 3. DETAILS OF THE SCHOOL

3.1. Ysgol Llidiardau

3.1.1. Ysgol Llidiardau is a rural school located in the Rhoshirwaun area on the Lleyn Peninsula, which is approximately 2.5 miles from Aberdaron, 5.5. miles from Botwnnog and 6.6 miles from Tudweiliog.

3.1.2. The area served by the school is an agricultural one, and to a degree remains a predominantly Welsh speaking area. According to the 2011 census figures, 74.2% of the residents in the Aberdaron Ward are Welsh speaking. 25% of the pupils at Ysgol Llidiardau come from homes where Welsh is spoken as the main language.

3.1.3. In 2011/2012 up to 50% of the pupils could claim free school meals (January 2012), a figure which is substantially higher than the comparative figures for Gwynedd and for Wales as a whole (Gwynedd at 13.2% and Wales at 18.8%) (January 2012).

3.1.4. Pupils are accepted into the school on a part time basis in the September following their third birthday and on a full time basis in the September following their fourth birthday. Fourteen pupils were registered at the school in September 2012, including 2 nursery age pupils. There are two classes at the school.

3.1.5. The school receives in excess of £17,000 of additional funding in order to ensure sufficient funding to employ a Head Teacher and an Assistant. The cost per pupil at Ysgol Llidiardau is £8,544 (2012/2013), in comparison with the cost per pupil of £3,838 for the same period at County level.

3.1.6. The number of pupils attending the school has fallen over a number of years and the situation has been vulnerable for some time.

3.2. Ysgol Crud y Werin

3.2.1. Ysgol Crud y Werin is located in the village of Aberdaron, and is on the B4413 to the north of the village centre. The school serves the village and a wide rural area. This school is in the same ward as Ysgol Llidiardau – Aberdaron Ward.

3.2.2. The area is a prosperous one. None of the children at the school were entitled to free school dinners in 2011/12.

3.2.3. 35(60%) of the pupils live within the natural catchment area of the school; 11(19%) travel from the Llidiardau catchment area and 10(17%) from the Rhiw area. Pupils also come from the Bryncroes area (1) and from Ysgol Pont y Gof, Botwnnog catchment area (1).

3.2.4. 86% of the pupils come from homes where Welsh is spoken as the first language. The remainder come from homes where English is the main language of the family.

3.2.5. The school accepts children and pupils from 3 to 11 years of age. At the moment, there are 58 pupils on the register. There are two classes at the school, and also a nursery class.

7 3.3. The catchment area situation

3.3.1. For historical reasons, Ysgol Llidiardau and Ysgol Pont y Gof catchment areas overlap in the catchment area of the former Ysgol Bryncroes (which was closed in the 1970’s). This means that pupils who live within the old Ysgol Bryncroes catchment area can choose to attend either Ysgol Llidiardau or Ysgol Pont y Gof, Botwnnog.

3.3.2. Also, Ysgol Llidiardau and Ysgol Crud y Werin catchment areas overlap in the old Ysgol Rhiw catchment area and pupils from that area can attend either Ysgol Llidiardau or Ysgol Crud y Werin, Aberdaron.

3.3.3. It is worth pointing out that only 2 pupils from the above historical catchment areas chose to attend Ysgol Llidiardau. All the pupils from the former Ysgol Rhiw catchment area already attend Ysgol Crud y Werin and none attend Ysgol Llidiardau. The matter of overlaps between catchment areas will be discussed further at another point in this report.

3.3.4. Map showing the present catchment areas:

8 3.4. Schools’ Background Details Table

School Llidiardau Crud y Werin

Capacity (based on Welsh Assembly Government Circular No 09/06 – Measuring the Capacity of Schools in Wales) 57 85 Together with Nursery Places where relevant Age Range 3 – 11 3 - 11

Number on register - September 2012 14 58 (Together with Nursery Places where relevant)

2013-2014 = 14 2013-2014 = 56 Predicted number of pupils over the next 2014-2015 =15 2014-2015 =61 five years 2015-2016=16 2015-2016=65 2016-2017 = 16 2016-2017 = 64 Statutory Category of the School (community, voluntary aided, voluntary controlled, Community Community foundation) Category according to language medium Welsh Medium Welsh Medium (based on Welsh Assembly Government Circular No 023/2007 Defining Schools according to Welsh medium provision) – PLASC DEFINITION Primary School Primary School

Inspection January Inspection May 2008 Schools performance data / details from 2009 6x Grade 2 Estyn inspection reports 7 x Grade 2 1 x Grade 1 Surplus Places 2012-2013 75%(43) 32%(27) Cost per Pupil 2012/2013 £8,544 £3,859

Key: Estyn Grades: Grade 1 = good with excellent features Grade 2 = good features and no important deficits Grade 3= good features outweigh deficits Grade 4 = some good features but deficits in important areas Grade 5 = many important deficits

9 3.5 Map of the Area YSGOL CRUD Y WERIN – 2012/2013 DATA YSGOL LLIDIARDAU – 2012/2013 DATA Pupil Numbers (Nursery - Yr.6) 58 Pupil Numbers (Nursery - Yr.6) 14 School’s Capacity (Nursery) 7 School’s Capacity (Nursery) 7 85 57 School’s Capacity (Reception – Yr.6) 78 School’s Capacity (Reception – Yr.6) 50 Surplus Places Nursery - Yr.6 Surplus Places Nursery - Yr.6 27 (32%) 43 (75%) (% Surplus Places Nursery - Yr.6) (% Surplus Places Nursery - Yr.6) Cost per Pupil £3,859 Cost per Pupil £8,544

10 4. EVALUATION OF THE VARIOUS OPTIONS

4.0.1. In accordance with the strategy ‘Excellent Primary Education for Children in Gwynedd’ a number of factors were discussed whilst considering a solution for the situation, including:  Class sizes  Population and pupil numbers  Quality of the education  Leadership  Financial resources and buildings  Linguistic, community and equality impact  Geographical factors

4.0.2. The following models were considered:  Retain the status quo (no change)  Collaboration / Federal Model  Close Ysgol Llidiardau and offer education for the pupils at Ysgol Crud y Werin, Aberdaron

4.1. Retain the ‘status quo’

4.1.1. This model would entail no change to the structure of education provision in the area.

4.1.2. It would not solve the problem of diminishing numbers or the high level of surplus places in Ysgol Llidiardau and Ysgol Crud y Werin. In addition, the cost of maintaining the same number of buildings would continue and the substantial budget necessary for upgrading each individual building cannot be maintained. The school would also continue to be financially unsustainable and would need an additional sum through the minimum staffing protection scheme.

4.1.3. This option is not regarded as practical due to the critical situation in terms of low pupil numbers at Ysgol Llidiardau.

4.2. Collaboration / Federal Model

4.2.1. A model of informal collaboration between schools could be developed. This model would ensure that education provision would continue on each site where education is provided at the present time. It would be an opportunity to share staff expertise and to share good practice.

4.2.2. Under the more formal arrangement of a federal model, Ysgol Llidiardau would collaborate with a local school (or schools) under one head teacher and one governing body. The governing body of each individual school would be abolished and a new governing body appointed. The identity of the schools in question (including name, ethos, and school uniform) could be retained or changed to reflect the new federation. The federal model would make it possible to share staff, resources, ITC equipment, buildings and expertise. 11 4.2.3. This model can work well when the situation at various establishments is similar in terms of pupil numbers and budgets. Also, it can offer a solution where geographical distances are a key factor. It is uncertain whether the model would succeed where the situation at one unit of the federation is more vulnerable than at the other. It also has to be taken into consideration which model would ensure sustainability in terms of providing education in the area for the future. For this reason, the above model is not the best option for this situation.

4.3. Closure of Ysgol Llidiardau and provision made for the pupils at Ysgol Crud y Werin, Aberdaron

4.3.1. This model entails the closure of Ysgol Llidiardau and moving the pupils to be educated at Ysgol Crud y Werin, Aberdaron. This proposal will be further discussed at a later point in this report. Consideration will also be given in this report to the reasons why the catchment area of Ysgol Crud y Werin should be extended to include Ysgol Llidiardau catchment area.

4.3.2. In the table below, the features of the various models are compared against some key factors of the Strategy ‘ Excellent Primary Education for the Children of Gwynedd’

4.3.3. These proposals were formed with regard given to the guidance in Circular 021/2009 ‘School Organisation Proposals’. We now have to decide on a model on which to hold further consultation, in accordance with the School Standards and Framework Act 1998.

12 4.4. Comparing the Models (Key: Blue = Advantages, Red = Disadvantages, Black = Observations and Facts) Comparing Models Close the school and move the pupils to Considerations Retain the ‘Status Quo’ Collaboration / Federation Ysgol Crud Y Werin Numbers remain low at Ysgol Numbers remain low at Ysgol Llidiardau. Ysgol Numbers at Ysgol Crud Y Werin are much more stable Llidiardau. Ysgol Llidiardau remains Llidiardau remains within the staffing protection and more sustainable for the future. within the staffing protection safety safety net. Still over 43 surplus places. In terms Pupil Numbers net. Still over 43 surplus places. In of numbers, projections for the school remain terms of numbers, projections for the vulnerable school remain vulnerable. Average class size at Ysgol Llidiardau Average class size at Ysgol Llidiardau remains at There will be a smaller age range within learning groups Class Size and remains at 7. Classes remain with an 7. Classes remain with an age range of up to 4 and pupils can be taught in peer groups of the same age. Age Range age range of up to 4 years. years. Class sizes will be more viable. Increasingly difficult to uphold good Collaboration opportunities would give the Implementing the proposal would strengthen the educational standards and quality at pupils more experiences, but that in itself could provision in the area. It will be possible to ensure that a school with numbers as low as 14. not always guarantee improvement in the education is provided in an establishment which is much Quality of the quality of education. more stable and sustainable for the future. There will be Education opportunities for pupils to be taught in peer groups with a much smaller age range. There will be an opportunity to improve pupils’ experiences both educationally and socially. Low numbers at the school mean that Two sites for one Head Teacher to manage. Fewer jobs available which will lead to staff redundancies. there would only be sufficient funding More staff to lead and to manage and the need to employ a head teacher and an to manage staff on more than one site. Based on Staff expertise could be shared. More opportunity for assistant. Concerns over long term numbers, but a site head teacher would also developing and strengthening the leaderhip role. staffing, for example, the head have to be appointed – therefore any savings Opportunities for collaborating on professional matters Leadership and teacher’s contract comes to an end in would be spent on running an educational and developing plans on a joint basis for the benefit on the Staffing August 2013. organisation rather than on the pupils. pupils. One site for the Head Teacher to manage and no No change to the Head Teacher’s non need to manage staff from a distance. contact time. Staff expertise could be shared. More non contact time for the head teacher. More opportunity for developing and strengthening the leadership role. Uncertainty remains regarding the Uncertainty remains regarding the sustainability The community impact assessment report notes that sustainability of education provision of education provision in the area closing the school would lead to some negative impact. in the area. But it also notes that approximately half the pupils who Retain a school presence in the existing villages. live in the Llidiardau catchment area at present attend Retain a school presence in the Ysgol Crud y Werin, and therefore there is already contact existing villages. between that school and the wider area. It notes opportunities for ensuring that the community at Community Rhoshirwaun is aware of activities at the school and that appropriate discussions will be held regarding after use of the school building at Ysgol Llidiardau. The linguistic impact assessment report notes that the linguistic situation at Ysgol Crud y Werin is very strong – with 86% of the pupils coming from homes where Welsh is spoken fluently. In comparison, only a quarter (25%) of Ysgol Llidiardau pupils at the moment come from homes Language No change in the linguistic situation. No change in the linguistic situation. where Welsh is spoken fluently . Therefore we see opportunities for strengthening the Welsh language if this proposal is implemented, and ensuring that there is an opportunity for pupils to attend a school which is truly Welsh both educationally and socially. Ysgol Llidiardau remains financially Ysgol Llidiardau remains financially The school will not remain within the staffing protection unsustainable and is therefore under unsustainable and is therefore under the staffing safety net. the staffing protection safety net. protection safety net. Ysgol Llidiardau has The school will be financially more sustainable. Ysgol Llidiardau has received £17,534 received £17,534 additional funding in 2012/13. The cost per pupil will be closer to the County average. additional funding in 2012/13. Average cost per pupil is still high at Ysgol The model can lead to revenue savings of around £55k Financial Average cost per pupil is still high at Llidiardau (over £8000 per pupil). High per year. Resources Ysgol Llidiardau (over £8000 per maintenance cost for two sites would remain. pupil) – which is more than twice the Cost of employing a site head teacher. Transport County average. cost between the two sites. Possible restricted managerial savings would No change in the linguistic situation have to be retained for running a federal school. No change. There will be a need to transport pupils from one Some pupils would have to travel further than they do at Geographical site to the other. present. Factors No pupil in the area will need to travel an No pupil in the area will need to travel an unreasonable unreasonable distance to school. distance to school. 13 5. THE PROPOSAL

5.0.1. The proposal put forward here is relevant to:  Ysgol Llidiardau  Ysgol Crud y Werin

5.0.2. At itsAt its meeting of 27 February 2013. the Cabinet of Gwynedd Council resolved to undertake a statutory consultation process in accordance with Section 29 of the Schools Standards and Framework Act 1998 on the closure of Ysgol Llidiardau on 31 August 2013.

5.1. Why recommend the closure of Ysgol Llidiardau?

5.1.1. It is recommended that Ysgol Llidiardau be closed after considering a number of factors, including:  Class sizes  The Welsh Language  Population and pupil numbers  Financial Resources  Learning Environmennt and quality of  Geographical factors the education  Leadership and staffing  The Community

Consideration will be given to these factors and others at a later stage in the document.

5.2. Class Sizes

5.2.1. There are only two classes at Ysgol Llidiardau, whilst there are 3 classess (including the nursery class) at Ysgol Crud y Werin, with an average class size of 19 and a range of between 7 and 26 pupils in a class. It is noted that Ysgol Llidiardau is far below capacity, with 43 (75%) surplus places at the school, and there are 27 (32%) surplus places at Ysgol Crud y Werin.

5.2.2. The distribution of pupils at the schools during the academic year 2012/13 is sen below: School N R Yr 1 Yr 2 Yr 3 Yr 4 Yr 5 Yr 6 2 2 3 1 2 2 1 1 Llidiardau Class 1 = 8 Class 2 = 6 7 10 8 7 9 8 1 8 Crud y Werin Class 1 = Class 2 = 25 Class 3 = 26 7

Number of Average Class School Pupil Numbers Classes Size Llidiardau 14 2 7 Crud y Werin 58 3 19.3

14 5.2.3. A study of a range of evidence outlining the general opinion – confirmed in the Government policy – that classes of over 30 pupils are unacceptable for children under 7 years old and undesirable for children between 7-11 years old.

5.2.4. 5.2.4 If the recommendations were implemented, the class sizes at Ysgol Crud y Werin will be closer to the aim of the Council’s strategy namely to achieve classes of between 12 and 25 pupils.

5.3. Pupil Numbers

5.3.1. Primary pupil numbers in this part of the catchment area have varied over a period of time. The changes since September 1975 are shown in the table below:

School / Area 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995 2000 2005 2010 2012

Llidiardau 22 21 18 21 28 50 34 17 14 Crud y Werin N/A N/A 68 55 56 60 50 55 58 Botwnnog catchment 850 741 714 612 633 749 658 616 651 area Gwynedd 12,084 11,104 9,505 9,516 10,321 10,679 10,150 9,703 9,720

5.3.2. The table below shows the changes in numbers over the period from September 2009 until the projections for September 2014. From this we can identify the tendency over a comparatively shorter period. It seems that pupil numbers at Ysgol Llidiardau are likely to remain low, under 20 in number. In comparison, the pupil number projections for Ysgol Crud y Werin remain strong.

True True True True Projections Projections Projections Projections Numbers Numbers Numbers Numbers for for for for School September September September September September September September September 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 Llidiardau 21 17 16 14 14 15 16 16 Crud y Werin 54 55 59 58 56 61 65 64

5.3.3. Educational standards are a core factor in the proposals. Although there is a general presumption that the standard of education in smaller schools is higher than in the larger schools, there is no evidence to support that presumption. Indeed, the ESTYN report “Small Primary Schools in Wales(2003)” note that there is no significant difference between educational standards in small and large schools, but “…the smaller the school, the more difficult is the task for the head teacher to match the work with the learning requirements of all the pupils” The report goes on to note “…it can be more difficult for teachers in small schools to match work to the needs of the pupils, since the pupils in every class can differ greatly in terms of age and development stages. This is especially true in the smallest schools (with fewer than 30 pupils), where 28% of the work is unsatisfactory as compared to 8% unsatisfactory work in schools with over 210 pupils’.

5.3.4. If the proposal is implemented, and parents decide to send their children to Ysgol Crud y Werin, then Ysgol Crud y Werin would have approximately 72 pupils (based on 2012 numbers). 15 5.4. Quality of the Education

5.4.1. Recent Estyn inspection reports note that both these schools provide education of satisfactory standard. No concerns or doubts were expressed regarding the standard of the education at either of the schools.

Ysgol Llidiardau Ysgol Crud y Werin

Inspection Date January 2009 May 2008

Details in Inspection 6 x Grade 2 7 x Grade 2 Reports 1x Grade 3

Key: Estyn Results – Grade 1 = good with excellent features Grade 2 = good features and no important deficits Grade 3 = good features outweigh the deficits

5.4.2. If the proposal is implemented, there will be an opportunity for the pupils to be educated in peer groups with a much smaller age range and to expand their educational and social experiences.

5.5. Leadership and Staffing

5.5.1. Ysgol Llidiardau employs one full time teacher who is a temporary head teacher at the school until the end of this academic year, and a full time, temporary assistant. There are also 3 auxiliary staff on permanent contracts and one other on casual contract with various responsibilities – catering, cleaning, secretarial duties etc.

5.5.2. Gwynedd Council has developed a detailed staffing policy in conjunction with the Trade Unions and Head Teachers. The policy will form the basis to any redundancies which result from this proposal. Clear and open communication will be of core importance to the successful implementation of any proposals.

5.6. The Community

5.6.1. An analysis of the use made of the two school buildings by the community, and the contribution made by the schools to their communities has been published in a comprehensive statistical pack. Also the resources were listed (e.g. community centres, playing fields etc). The full document is available on the Council website (www.gwynedd.gov.uk/schoolorganisation) and in the background documents pack placed in the schools and in the libraries at Nefyn and Pwllheli. Copies are also available from the Schools Organisation Office.

16 5.6.2. A study of the possible community impact was completed as part of the process of developing the proposal. The report can be viewed on the Council website and copies are available from the Schools Organisation Office.

5.6.3. The Community Impact Report notes that the school is very involved with the community in Rhoshirwaun. The school makes use of the comunity hall for physical education classes and concerts. The report notes that there would be some negative impact if the school was closed. But it also notes that around half of the pupils who live in the Llidiardau catchment area at the moment attend Ysgol Crud y Werin, and therefore there is already contact between that school and the wider area. It also notes opportunities for ensuring that the community in Rhoshirwaun is made aware of activities at the school and that appropriate discussions should be held regarding after use for the building at Ysgol Llidiardau. Consideration needs to be given to the suggestions made in terms of alleviating any possible negative effects which might result from the proposal.

5.6.4. In terms of the community in the Llidiardau catchment area, the impact report recommends some measures for the Council to consider in order to alleviate the negative effects, for example:  Ensuring support for the communities in order to try and maintain the situation within those communities  Offering support for the community to make the right decision regarding the best use of the school building if it is closed  Planning in order to ensure that the children, parents and the community of Ysgol Llidiardau are aware of, and are given the opportunity to be part of, activities at Ysgol Crud y Werin.  Offering transport provision to facilitate the transport of children from the communities effectively and safely  Trying to confine the travelling time for Ysgol Llidiardau children within the County target (30 minutes)

5.6.5. These alleviating measures will be considered and incorporated if the resolution is made to implement the recommendations for the school.

5.7. The Welsh Language

5.7.1. A linguistic Impact assessment was undertaken when this proposal was being developed. The full report is published on the Council website and copies can be obtained from the Schools Organisation Office.

5.7.2. In terms of linguistic impact – it notes that the linguistic situation at Ysgol Crud y Werin is very strong – with 85% of the pupils coming from homes where Welsh is the only language spoken. In comparison, only 25% of Ysgol Llidiardau pupils come from Welsh only homes. Ysgol Llidiardau has worked hard to develop the pupils’ bilingual skills and to promote the importance of the Welsh culture. It is therefore important that the proposal should acknowledge the need to support and to carry on with this work. If this proposal is implemented, there are opportunities for strengthening the Welsh language

17 and to ensure that the pupils are given the opportunity to attend a school which is truly Welsh from both an educational, and social point of view.

5.8. Financial Resources and Buildings

5.8.1. A total sum of £333,916 has been allocated to the two schools for 2012/13. The cost per pupil ranges from £8,544 at Ysgol Llidiardau to £3,859 at Ysgol Crud y Werin. The average cost per pupil throughout the County for this period is £3,838.

Share of the budget Minimum School Average per Staffing Total budget pupil Protection* Llidiardau £127,140 £8,544 £17,534 Crud y Werin £206,067 £3,859 - Gwynedd £3,838 Primary Schools Allocation 2012/13 *The protection policy at minimum ensures a head teacher and teacher/assistant at every school with more than 15 pupils, and a head teacher and class assistant at schools with fewer than 15 pupils.

5.8.2. In terms of revenue costs, establishing the new organisation would save £75,968 less additional transport costs (estimated at present at around £20,000 ), which involves annual savings of around £55,968.

5.8.3. During the process of reorganisation across the County, if the proposals are accepted, the Council plans to reserve 20% of any savings for use within the catchment area, in order to meet the aims of the county strategy (such as, for example, reducing the size of large classes or tackling deprivation etc).

5.8.4. We note the need to spend over £100k on the building at Ysgol Llidiardau in response to matters involving maintenance, asbestos and fire precautions. The building at Ysgol Crud y Werin is in good condition, and high priority maintenance work has been programmed in the Council’s Asset Management Plan for completion during this year.

5.9. Geographical Factors

5.9.1. The aim is to restrict travelling wherever possible. The proposal in question meets the criteria set by the Welsh Government in 021/2009, namely that proposals should not require that primary age pupils should travel more than 45 minutes each way to school. The requirements of the Gwynedd Council strategy “Excellent Primary Education for Children in Gwynedd” in terms of travelling is to restrict travelling time to not more than 30 minutes each way. This proposal meets with those requirements.

18 5.9.2. We can summarise the reasons for choosing Ysgol Crud y Werin as the catchment area school if Ysgol Llidiardau closes, having chosen this school in preference to any others, for the following reasons:  Ysgol Crud y Werin is approximately 2.5 miles from the present site of Ysgol Llidiardau, and therefore the closest in distance,  This would be the school involving the least travelling for the vast majority of Llidiardau pupils,  Around 50% of the pupils who live within the Ysgol Llidiardau catchment area already attend Ysgol Crud y Werin, which demonstrates that a tradition of pupil flow has already been established in the area,  All the pupils who live in the Rhiw area attend Ysgol Crud y Werin,  This is an opportunity to ensure sustainability and viability for Ysgol Crud y Werin into the future.

Catchment area in which the pupils live Crud y Bryncroes School Llidiardau Rhiw area Pont y Gof Other Total Werin area Llidiardau 0 11 0 2 1 0 14 PontyGof 0 0 0 15 75 14 104 Crud y Werin 35 11 10 1 1 0 58 Other 0 1 0 1

Catchment 35 23 10 19 area total

19 6. IMPLICATIONS OF THE PROPOSAL

6.0.1. This proposal means that Ysgol Llidiardau, Rhoshirwaun will close and that the pupils will be offered places at Ysgol Crud Y Werin, Aberdaron.

Close Ysgol Llidiardau Offer places at Ysgol Crud y Werin

6.1. Considerations regarding the closure of Ysgol Llidiardau

6.1.1. There are a number of considerations to be looked at in closing Ysgol Llidiardau and the following are some of the matters to be discussed:

6.2. Transport and schools entry catchment areas

6.2.1 It has already been explained in the report that there is a unique historic situation in the area regarding the fact that school catchment areas overlap. (See the map below).  Ysgol Llidiardau and Ysgol Pont y Gof catchment areas overlap in the catchment area of the former Ysgol Bryncroes,

 Ysgol Llidiardau and Ysgol Crud y Werin catchment areas overlap in the catchment area of the former Ysgol Rhiw.

6.2.2 In short, this means that Ysgol Llidiardau could attract pupils from three catchment areas. We note that very few (only 2 in number) of all the pupils living within the historical overlapping catchment areas decide to attend Ysgol Llidiardau – they choose to attend the other schools - namely Ysgol Pont y Gof and Ysgol Crud y Werin. All the pupils who live within the former Ysgol Rhiw area choose to attend Ysgol Crud y Werin.  The catchment area of Ysgol Crud y Werin will include the existing catchment area (the Aberdaron area), the catchment area of Ysgol Llidiardau (the Rhoshirwaun area) and the catchment area of the former Ysgol Rhiw (Rhiw area) .

 Ysgol Pont y Gof catchment area will continue to include the catchment area of the former Ysgol Bryncroes, with no change.

6.2.3 In keeping with this proposal to close Ysgol Llidiardau – it will also involve the following: (see the maps below):

1) From September 2013 onwards the catchment area of Ysgol Crud y Werin will include:  The present school catchment area (Aberdaron area);  Ysgol Llidiardau catchment area (Rhoshirwaun area); and  Former Ysgol Rhiw catchment area (Rhiw area) .

2) The catchment area of Ysgol Pont y Gof will continue to include the former Ysgol Rhiw catchment area, with no changes.

20 6.2.4 Map of the present catchment areas

6.2.5 Map of the proposed catchment areas

6.2.6 If the proposal put forward is implemented the pupils who live within Ysgol Llidiardau and former Ysgol Rhiw catchment areas (which will then be known as Ysgol Crud y Werin catchment area) will receive transport to Ysgol Crud y Werin in accordance with the Local Authority Transport Policy. This would also apply to pupils from the former Ysgol Bryncroes catchment area who attend Ysgol Pont y Gof, an arrangement which is already operative.

21 6.3 Interim arrangements for existing pupils at Ysgol Llidiardau

6.3.1 During the initial discussions a suggestion was made that special arrangements would be needed during the transition period in order to facilitate the changeover. In the past, transport arrangements for the transition period have been made in other areas. Because of the historic situation regarding the overlap in school catchment areas, it seems that interim transport arrangements will be required to transport pupils to school during the transition period.

6.3.2 The following is suggested for the transition period only:  Free transport for those pupils who are at present registered at Ysgol Llidiardau to Ysgol Crud y Werin, Aberdaron or Ysgol Pont y Gof, Botwnnog specifically, if they live further than 2 miles from their chosen school, or if they receive free transport on account of the nature of the journey, in accordance with the current transport policy.  This would be a temporary arrangement for pupils on the school register only and for the duration of their time at the school.

6.3.3 This will have to be discussed further during this consultation and considered in a report presented to the Cabinet in due course.

6.4 Staffing Matters

6.4.1 If the proposal is approved, there would be staffing implications which could lead to uncertainty and redundancies. Consultation will take place with staff and Union representatives as part of the current consultation. Gwynedd Council has developed a detailed staffing policy, in conjunction with the Trade Unions and head teachers. Any redundancies which arise from this proposal will have to conform with that policy. Clear and open communication will play a core part in implementing any proposals.

6.5 After-use of sites and support for the communities

6.5.1 As part of the steps to alleviate any effects of school closure in an area, if there is local desire, the Council will ask its Regeneration Officers to support the community in discussions regarding after use of land and buildings released as a result of this proposal. This will be carried out in accordance with the implementation policies and procedures which were adopted by the Council back in 2010.

6.5.2 The communty impact report notes some concern regarding the effect that the closure of Ysgol Llidiardau will have on the community; measures will have to be taken to ensure that the methods recommended in the assessment report to alleviate those effects are given consideration.

6.6 In Summary

6.6.1 The proposal therefore is to close Ysgol Llidiardau, Rhoshirwaun on 31 August 2013 and to make provision for the pupils at Ysgol Crud y Werin, Aberdaron from 1 September 2013. 22 7. STATUTORY PROCESS SCHEDULE AND THE NEXT STEPS

18 March, 2013 Statutory Consultation Period starts

22 April, 2013 Consultation meeting with Staff, Governors and Parents

13:00 on 26 April, 2013 Closing date for submitting observations on the proposal

May 2013 Cabinet decides whether to issue Statutory Notices or not

Yes No

June 2013 Statutory Notices issued Proposal refused

One Month Period

July 2013 End of the Formal Objection Period

Any Objections Received?

Yes No

Transfer any objections to the The Council Cabinet Welsh Government – the proposal could be approved, refused or amended (up to 7 months before a decision is received) Proposal Confirmed?

Yes No – Proposal refused

Proposal implemented before 31 August 2013

23 GWYNEDD COUNTY COUNCIL PROPOSAL TO CLOSE YSGOL LLIDIARDAU ON 31 AUGUST 2013 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECION 29 OF THE SCHOOL STANDARDS AND FRAMEWORK ACT 1998 RESPONSE FORM (Attach this form to your full response)

Please provide the following information:

1. Name:

2. Address:

3. I am responding as (please note below):

Parent Governor Staff Pupil Other (note below) ⁯ ⁯ ⁯ ⁯ ⁯

Other:

Note below whether you agree for your response to be published by the Council. Please attach this form to the front of your response to the statutory consultation. With your permission, responses will be reproduced, in full or with personal data such as names and addresses removed, in a report to the Cabinet on the statutory consultation period. Under the terms of the Data Protection Act 1998 we must inform you of the following. Gwynedd Council is seeking your views on this proposal as part of a statutory consultation process. Your personal information will be used for this purpose only, and may be shared with other agencies who are involved in the consultation, in order to address any issues you raise (e.g. Welsh Government). We will continue to consider your comments whichever option is chosen.

Yes - I agree that the Yes - I agree the Council can No - the Council cannot Council can publish my full publish my response after publish my response response removing personal information ⁯ ⁯ ⁯

Return responses to: School Organisation Office, Gwynedd Council, Headquarters, Caernarfon, Gwynedd. LL55 1SH or [email protected] Closing Date: 13:00 on 26 April 2013 24

Appendix 2

Ysgol Llidiardau Statutory Consultation Meeting Minutes

STAFF STATUTORY MEETING YSGOL LLIDIARDAU 4:00, 22 APRIL 2013

5 members of staff attended including the head teacher, teaching staff, auxiliary staff and clerk to the governors. One union representative was also present.

Welcome and Introductions

Dewi Jones, Head of Education welcomed everyone to the meeting. Council officers were introduced: Cllr. Sian Gwenllian – Cabinet Member for Education, Tony Bate – Lead Manager Primary School Organisation, Sandra Evans – Senior Personnel Officer, Nia Gruffudd – Personnel Officer, Eluned Williams –Auxiliary Services Senior Officer, Margaret Hughes – Dwyfor Auxiliary Contracts Manager, Gwenan Jones-Parry - Minuting the Meeting.

Presenting the Proposal

A presentation was given by Tony Bate in which he explained that the consultation period on the closure of the school would continue until 26 April and that this was an opportunity to put forward any comments. All the comments and the minutes of this meeting would be submitted to the Cabinet on 21 May when a decision would be reached on whether to proceed with the proposal or not. If the Cabinet decides to proceed, a statutory notice will be issued and a period of one month allowed for the submission of objections. If any objection is received the proposal will be transferred for the attention of the Minister for Education and Skills for a final decision.

The purpose of this meeting was to obtain the views of the staff at the school on the proposal and to allow staff to discuss with personnel officers.

Open Discussion – Comments and Questions

One member of staff noted that there was a suggestion in the consultation document, and in the press release by Cllr. Sian Gwenllian, that the school was being closed on account of the quality of education. The staff wished to make it clear that it was not concerns over the quality of education that had led to the present situation but concerns over surplus places and numbers. It was unfair to give the impression that the staff offered poor education and it was the wrong message to convey to the public.

Apologies were offered for any false impressions given. The officer noted that the Authority was not concerned about the quality of education at Ysgol Llidiardau, but quality of education has to be one consideration in any proposal for reorganisation since it is a major part of the Council’s strategy.

The main concern of the staff is the uncertainty for the pupils. It is evident in the pupils from day to day since they do not know what the arrangements are for September. It would be useful to receive a definite answer so that the uncertainty can be abolished. If the transport problem could be solved, then parents could tell their children without any doubt what the arrangements were.

Following a meeting at Botwnnog, SG sent a letter to the Local Member (with a copy to the chairpersons of the area governing bodies) giving an outline of the favoured proposal which would form the basis of a consultation. A specific request was made by the Head Teacher for firm help and guidance regarding the timetable for disposing of documents kept at the school. It would be better to receive this information early so that the work could be carried out gradually.

An officer replied that a final decision is needed from the Cabinet before any definite advice on this matter could be given, in case it should prejudge the consultation – definite guidance will be available after 21st May depending on the decision.

It was questioned what would happen if existing staff manage to secure jobs before the school is closed and pupils transferred. For example, if the senior classroom assistant left it would not be permitted to have a classroom assistant only – would the Authority help by appointing a senior classroom assistant or a teacher in such case?

The officer noted that the Authority would have to help in order to ensure provision of education for the pupils and it would consider appropriate temporary or part time provision. The Authority will not stand in the way of any staff member who is offered a new post (whether teaching or auxiliary staff).

Personnel staff have already visited the school to discuss with staff on a one to one basis and to find out what their wishes and concerns are e.g. regarding travelling distance to another workplace. During these talks one question was whether any specific qualifications are needed to become a classroom assistant – for information, no specific qualification is required.

The union representative introduced himself and asked how exactly the statutory consultation running concurrently with individual consultations with staff members.

The personnel officer explained that the individual consultation with staff had already started at a meeting on 21 March when education and auxiliary personnel visited the school to discuss (on a one to one basis and ion groups) the wishes of the staff. It was again stated that the final decision would be taken by the Council on 21 May, following this statutory consultation.

The union representative noted that the staff would be relocated wherever possible and that the distance to the new location should be considered and also whether the post would be suitable for the person in question. Some jobs are very hard to find in this area. Is the Authority going to go one step further and ask the staff at other schools whether they are willing to take voluntary redundancy in order to create jobs?

The situation regarding teaching staff and auxiliary staff is different – the school employs teaching staff and the Authority employs auxiliary staff. It is possible for the Authority to freeze any auxiliary jobs available in the area with a view to relocating staff but this cannot be done with teaching posts. The school governing body is the employer in this case – the Authority can only recommend and advise governors. Further discussions and consideration is needed in terms of approaching staff from other schools – in view of the Equality Act and the desire by many to continue working after their 65th birthday, it would probably be very difficult.

The discussion moved on to include personal details of some members of staff, the time remaining was put aside as an opportunity for staff and officers to hold one to one discussions.

Dewi Jones thanked everyone for attending and for their comments. GOVERNORS STATUTORY MEETING YSGOL LLIDIARDAU 5:15, 22 APRIL 2013

10 members of the governing body attended, including the Local Member, members of the school staff and clerk to the governors.

Welcome and Introductions

Presenting the proposal

A short presentation was given by Tony Bate in which he put forward details of the proposal and made reference to some specific elements which have caused concern for the governors and parents, including the proposal itself, why choose Ysgol Crud Y Werin (CYW) as the school to take the pupils of Llidiardau, history, present arrangements and changes to the catchment area boundaries, interim transport arrangements and long term transport arrangements. Details of the interim transport arrangements were given – free transport would be offered for the existing pupils of the school (14 pupils) to the schools at CYW or Pont y Gof (PYG) due to the historic elective catchment area situation.

The time schedule was explained and it was noted that the consultation period would end on 26 April, that a report would be submitted to the Cabinet on 21 May (including all the comments and minutes of this meeting) when a decision will be reached on whether to proceed with the proposal or not. If the Cabinet decides to proceed with the proposal a statutory notice will be issued and a period of one month allow the submission of any objections. If there is objection the proposal will be transferred to the Minister for Education and Skills (Welsh Government) for a final decision.

Dewi Jones stated that the meeting was an opportunity for the governors to put forward their views. The main points raised at the staff meeting was recounted:  Quality of Education – staff were under the impression that the quality of education had been criticised. The Council was not dissatisfied with the quality of education but this was one of the strategic considerations when putting forward a proposal for reorganisation. The Authority was concerned over the pupil numbers in the future and apologised for any misunderstanding on this point.  Transport has an affect and is causing concern for the pupils.  Head Teacher made a request for specific guidance on the task of disposing of documents/equipment etc if the school closes.  Discussion on personnel matters relating to the staff at the school – a union representative was present at the discussion.  If temporary staff needed to be employed the Authority would offer help and safeguard pupil welfare.

Open Discussion – Comments and Questions

One governor stated that transport was one of the main concerns among governors and parents. Some wanted free transport to Ysgol Tudweiliog and were worried because this was not part of the consultation (6/7 pupils wish to attend there). Why offer free transport to CYW and PYG and not to Tudweiliog?

The comment was accepted and it was explained that this will be included as a matter for discussion in the report submitted to the Council Cabinet. There are two other schools which are closer than Tudweiliog, where there is insufficient surplus places, there are 8 surplus places at the school this year but by September 2014 forecasts show that the school will be full (school data submitted to the Authority). It is difficult for the Authority to offer places in a school where there is insufficient room, there would be a danger that pupils from its own catchment area would have to be refused by Ysgol Tudweiliog in the future. It was further questioned why parents wished to secure places for their children at Ysgol Tudweiliog since this would be of interest to Cabinet members.

One governor stated that it would be better to ask the parents but that some people say that Tudweiliog and Llidiardau are similar, both are schools with a homely ethos.

A governor stated that discussions had been held with the chairman and head teacher of Tudweiliog and they had no concerns, whilst the head teacher at CYW was concerned on account of the current increase in the school’s catchment area.

A slide was shown giving the data for the four schools and the current situation in terms of numbers, capacity and surplus places. There is room for all Llidiardau pupils in PYG or CYW. It has to be remembered that places for pupils have to be planned for the long term since more children live in the Llidiardau catchment area (some already attend other schools – a map was shown with data on pupils’ homes, and the schools which they attend). This is the data which head teachers submit to the Authority and to the Welsh Government, a head teacher worrying about the structure of his classes is another matter.

One governor asked what would happen if parents objected. Parents feel very strongly on this matter, if there is no free transport to Tudweiliog they will object to the proposal and continue to send their children to Llidiardau in September. How can governors ensure education provision for them when staff will have possibly left? Also the parents will not decide until 21 May, which means six weeks until the end of term to make preparations for September.

An officer answered that if this happened the Authority and the governors would have to co-operate and assess the situation so that the children’s welfare is safeguarded.

How many objections are needed before the proposal is transferred to the Welsh Government?

One objection by one person. Discussions have taken place with officers from the Welsh Government to find out whether the Minister would be willing to reach a decision on the proposal in less than the customary seven months, due to the uncertainty, involved but it does not seem likely that this is possible. It is possible for the school to remain open for a period statutorily but with no staff or pupils.

One governor noted that, should the school close, it was their wish that the Council listened to the local community regarding post use of the school building. There are a number of suggestions locally regarding its use and creating a business plan has been considered. The post use of other school buildings was questioned.

This comment was accepted and it was noted that an Area Regeneration Officer would be available to discuss and to advise members of the community if the school closed. A full business plan would have to be prepared and submitted to the Council. This officer can be contacted through the schools reorganisation office after 21 May. The old school building at Rhydyclafdy is now used as a nursery. One governor asked when the governing body will be disbanded.

This will coincide with the last statutory day at the school and will be stipulated on the statutory notice if it is published.

What will happen to the equipment belonging to the school? Will it go to the schools that the pupils attend?

The ethos of the Council’s policy is for the equipment to follow the pupils. The first offer is given to the school(s) which accept the children, then other schools within the catchment area, schools within the County, charities or local nurseries. There is a process for disposing of specific documents and the head teacher will receive guidance on this matter.

It would be useful to be able to work with neighbouring schools and to visit them before September – can this be arranged?

The Authority does encourage this but because time is short and the final decision not expected until 21 May, it would be better for the schools to arrange this amongst themselves. It is easier for schools to contact each other directly.

Parents are concerned over the financial implications that closing the school would involve – will the Council give help towards the purchase of new school uniforms? The pupils will not want to look different at their new school.

The Authority is aware of this after experiencing the problem in other areas. Primary school uniform is not statutory therefore there are no grants available. The school might have surplus funding which the governors could consider for distribution by pupil in order to purchase new school clothes.

One governor stated that the hall at Rhoshirwaun is large and needs to be maintained. He/she suggested that CYW school should make occasional use of the hall since the Rhoshirwaun pupils will be expected to attend that school. There is no spacious hall in CYW, or in Aberdaron itself therefore it would make sense to make the most of the hall at Rhoshirwaun. CYW does not make use of the hall at the moment but this could be because Llidiardau is close by.

The comment was accepted and it was noted that this is one of the alleviating measures put forward in the community assessment. This will be recommended to Ysgol CYW, if the proposal goes ahead, but the Authority has no power to put any pressure on the school.

The Chair of Governors noted that a letter of response to the consultation would be submitted on behalf of the governing body and the parents’ association. A number of the responses had already been mentioned but it was stated that parents also wanted free transport for the younger siblings of the pupils at the school. Interim free transport is being offered to existing pupils but a number of these pupils have younger brothers and sisters. This will affect the choice presently being made regarding an alternative school.

This is not part of the proposal because the aim of the Council is to stabilise the area in the long term.

Other points made in the letter are for the staff to receive help in finding new jobs and a request for help and support with clearance and closure of the school. No information has been received regarding who is responsible for clearing the school and what practical help is available for this task.

Staffing matters have been discussed in the previous meeting. There is clear guidance regarding disposal of equipment and help will be available for the transfer of equipment. It was again pointed out that the written responses and minutes of this meeting would be submitted for the attention of the Cabinet.

Dewi Jones thanked the governors for attending and for their comments. PARENTS STATUTORY MEETING YSGOL LLIDIARDAU 6:35, 22 APRIL 2013

17 parents attended the meeting.

Welcome and Introductions

Presenting the proposal

Open Discussion – Comments and Questions

One parent expressed surprise that, in view of the feelings of parents at previous meetings, Ysgol Tudweiliog had not been mentioned in the consultation document. The school is close to the Llidiardau catchment area and parents want their children to attend that school. The consultation document does not fully convey the parents’ concerns.

It was stated that the purpose of this meeting was to receive clear comments from the parents so they can be submitted to the Cabinet. The first point is that parents want free transport to Tudweiliog as well as to CYW and PYG.

One parent noted that the consultation document is lacking – the views of the parents is not included. The consultation document appears to be promoting the Council’s long term agenda rather than the present demands of pupils’ parents. The views of the parents should have been included.

In answer it was stated that the views of the parents were being minuted now for submission to the Cabinet. The Council is putting forward the favoured option for consultation so that everyone concerned can express their views on it. The parents were asked why transport to Tudweiliog was so important. Members of the Cabinet will be interested to know the reasoning behind the request. Parents have visited other schools and looked at aspects such as size and ethos. Parents know what is best for their children therefore the only relevant answer is that the parents believe that Tudweiliog would be the best choice – the Council should not ignore the views of parents.

One parent noted that visiting other schools had been an eye opener. The head teacher at Tudweiliog spent much time with the parents when they visited, and the school is very similar to the school at Llidiardau.

Another parent stated the children had visited the Schools an chosen Tudweiliog as their favoured school. The pupils would not have been offered a visit to Tudweiliog if it had not been mentioned in the first place - Tudweiliog is better for pupils with special needs.

One parent expressed disappointment that he/she had been ignored at the time of the last meeting in February because they live outside the catchment area – their child is a pupil at the school and is therefore part of the proposal. At the moment the family lives approximately 2 miles from Ysgol PYG and Foelgron in Mynytho - Foelgron is their first choice as a school. Would there be free transport to Ysgol Foelgron?

It was explained that there would be free transport to Foelgron if they live further than 2 miles from the school but closer to Ysgol Foelgron than to Ysgol PYG. It was agreed to assess this specific situation to see if free transport could be allowed and the officer would contact the parents to inform them.

There are two other schools closer than Tudweiliog where there will be insufficient surplus places - there are 8 surplus places at the school this year but by September 2014 forecasts show that the school will be full to capacity (school data submitted by schools). It is difficult for the Authority to offer places in a school where there is insufficient room, there would be a danger that pupils from its own catchment area would have to be refused by Ysgol Tudweiliog in the future. There are places for all the pupils of Llidiardau in PYG or CYW. It has to be borne in mind that places for pupils have to be planned for the long term since there are more children living in the Llidiardau catchment area (some already attend other schools – a map was shown with the data on children’s homes and the schools which they attend).

At a meeting in Botwnnog the head teacher of Ysgol Tudweiliog stated that there was no problem with surplus places and that he/she did not agree with the figures.

It was explained that an answer to this question had already been given via a comprehensive e-mail from Owen Owens (Senior Manager of the Education Department). The head teacher at the school has received the relevant data.

One parent stated that there is no need to plan for all the pupils of Llidiardau to attend Tudweiliog – only 6/7 wish to be pupils at that school.

It was stated that there is a history of co-operation between Tudweiliog and Llidiardau schools e.g. arranging activities such as visits to Plas Tan y Bwlch, sharing buses for outings and holding joint activities to celebrate events such as ‘Diwrnod y llyfr’ (Book Day) etc. This is not the case with PYG and CYW schools.

One parent stated that it is important to note that numbers at Llidiardau have fallen because of the threat of closure. Ten years ago there was a pattern of attracting pupils from the elective catchment areas of Bryncroes and Rhiw, but this has gradually changed.

A specific request was made for free transport for the younger children of families who already have pupils at the school. The comment was accepted but it was repeated that the proposal in hand included free transport for existing pupils (14 in number) to CYW or PYG schools. The long term aim of the Council is to stabilise the catchment areas.

One parent stated that Tudweiliog has been put forward at the start of the discussions but that it had been withdrawn from the proposal. A feeling that Tudweiliog had been used as a bribe so that parents would agree to the closure. The parent stated that if free transport was not part of the final decision of the Cabinet the parents will involve the press and disclose the fact that they have been misled by the Council. The parents will object to the statutory notice and the pupils will continue to attend Llidiardau in September.

Dewi Jones explained that much discussion had taken place, but that no promises had been made. In December 2012 the governors took the decision to close the school, until then nothing specific had been planned.

One parent stated that it was at a meeting between governors and parents on 24 January 2013 that the first discussion took place regarding closure of the school. At the time the parents thought that the school would close under a specific programme for the economic benefit of the Council. It was understood that other schools in the area would have to be considered, including Tudweiliog, and the parents had done this. Then at a meeting with Council officers on 4 February 2013 it became obvious that Tudweiliog was not included as part of the proposal. This meeting infuriated parents because they expected to hear differently. The parents hoped to shorten the process by agreeing to closure and not objecting but this meeting changed everything because the Council refused to listen to the views and feelings of the parents and pupils. A specific request for the Head of Education to recommend in the report to the Cabinet that free transport to Tudweiliog should be allowed.

It was explained that the request and all the comments put forward by the parents would be submitted for the attention of the Cabinet members, to enable them to reach a final decision.

A letter had been sent to the Local Councillor in an attempt to give initial guidance on the standpoint of the Education Cabinet Member and the reasoning behind the proposal favoured for consultation. The long term aim is to stabilise education in the area. A letter had been sent to head teachers, chairs of governing bodies and local members – copies would be available at the end of the meeting should anyone wish one.

The chairman reported on the main points raised during the previous meetings with staff and governors.

One parent stated how important it was for the decision to be reached as soon as possible so that the pupils would know what was happening and collaboration between the schools could commence. When will a final decision be taken on transport?

At the Cabinet meeting on 21 May the decision will be taken and the schools transport unit will inform the school of the result.

There are two possible results: (A) The Cabinet will accept the views and opinions of the parents and agree to additional transport to Tudweiliog and transport for younger children. Thus there will be no objection and no pupils at the school in September. (B) No transport allowed, there will be objection to the proposal and pupils will attend the school in September. What will the Council do in response to this? The Council should try and avoid this option since it will be costly.

The Authority and the governing body will have a responsibility to provide education on the site at Ysgol Llidiardau. A parent emphasised the importance of conveying the views of the parents explicitly in the report to the Cabinet.

Cllr Sian Gwenllian stated that the report would be submitted in her name and that she would inspect the draft version – she will ensure that the ten points in the letter from the governing body/parents are brought to attention.

An officer reminded the meeting that if a decision is taken not to offer free transport to Tudweiliog, it does not mean that pupils from the area cannot attend that school. Parents have a choice and if there is room at Tudweiliog then entry is possible. The transport policy notes that free transport is provided for learners WHO live 2 miles or more from the school in their catchment area, or the nearest school. The cabinet has to reach decisions which are in keeping with this policy and principles which are relevant to the whole County.

A parent noted that some pupils who attend Ysgol Sarn Bach, and who live within 2 miles of the school receive free transport, why go against the policy in this case?

The officer replied that this stems from a change of policy in 2009, when the Council provided free transport for pupils who lived 1.5 miles from the nearest school. Arrangements in this specific area have not changed since then but after the situation has become evident, the service will be discontinued at the end of this term.

A parent stated that this is not a request to go against the transport policy but for the Cabinet to consider a reasonable request from parents for an interim period only.

It was noted that some parents wanted to make an application for nursery entry to Llidiardau, but due to the uncertainty over its future, what would be best to put on the entry form?

It will be acceptable to put Llidiardau as the main choice but to ensure that a second choice is stated.

A parent asked about the forecast for pupil numbers in the area. Will there be a problem in terms of shortage of places as has been happening in England? Is closure in this case premature?

It was stated that there is a general tendency towards moving from rural areas into urban areas. There is a reduction in secondary school numbers, the reduction in primary numbers will eventually decelerate and a small increase will start. Through the whole of Wales, Gwynedd Council is the Authority with the highest number of surplus places. There is no sign that there will be a significant increase to fill all the surplus places in Gwynedd.

The translator was thanked for his work.

Dewi Jones thanked the parents for attending and for their comments. SUMMARY OF THE MAIN POINTS FROM AUDIENCES AT THE STATUTORY MEETINGS HELD AT YSGOL LLIDIARDAU

 Need to note that the proposal for closure is based on concerns regarding numbers and sustainability and not on concerns over the quality of education only.  Request for help for staff to empty the school building and help for staff with regard to their jobs.  Request for help from the education department in maintaining the school if staff secure new jobs before the statutory closure.  Concern over the interim transport arrangements – specific request for free transport to Ysgol Tudweiliog as well as to PYG and CYW.  Concern over the interim transport arrangements – specific request for free transport for the younger children of families with children already attending the school.  Concern over the interim transport arrangements – specific request for one ex-catchment area pupil to receive free transport to Ysgol Foelgron  Request that a suggestion be put to Ysgol CYW to make use of the hall at Rhoshirwaun  Request to arrange visits to neighbouring schools.

Appendix 3

Ysgol Llidiardau Children and Young People Consultation

Consultation for Children and Young People at Ysgol Llidiardau

In order to gain the views of the pupils at the schools affected by the proposal, each school was offered the choice of either completing a special questionnaire compiled by a facilitator for children and young people or holding a session with a specialist children and young people facilitator.

All the schools decided to complete questionnaires and submit them to the Education Department. It was explained to the children that change could come about and that their views on this would be appreciated. The following questions were asked: 1) How do you feel about this? 2) Does anything about this concern you? 3) What are you looking forward to most? 4) What are the most important things for you at school?

Ysgol Llidiardau (Session held by an officer from Gwynedd Council prior to completion of the questionnaires on 17-04-13) Responses including comments from the questionnaires and the session – Mixed Group Number of Question Comments Comments 1. How do you ☺ 0 feel about this? 6 6 ** 2 pupils do not attend in the afternoon (nursery) 1. I’m sad because I won’t see my friends any more. 2 2. I’m angry because it isn’t fair - they have picked on my school. The 2 Council should have asked for our opinions first. 3. Mixed feelings, I’m looking forward to making new friends. 1 4. I’m sad because I won’t be able to see some of my old friends 2 5. I’m sad because I don’t want to see Ysgol Llidiardau closing - it’s the best 1 school in the world. Having a small number of pupils here means that more work gets done. I’m feeling rather frightened in case someone at the new school picks on me. 6. I’m sad because I don’t want to leave my friends. 1 7. I’m worried that I won’t be able to go on many trips at the new school. 1 8. I’m worried that I will be bullied. 1 9. I’m angry because the Council won’t allow us to choose what school we 1 want to attend. 10. I’m happy and excited because I will meet new friends and teachers. I 1 also feel sad because I like Ysgol Llidiardau 11. I’m sad because I don’t want to move schools. I feel annoyed with the 1 Council because I don’t want them to close the school. I’m confused because I don’t understand why this is happening. 12. I’m sad because I like Ysgol Llidiardau and the children there. I’m looking 3 forward to attending a new school. 13. I’m sad because the school is closing. 1 Officer’s Comments

The above was explained to the pupils and a number of points regarding their feelings were recorded. It is obvious from the response that they feel that the Council was not listening to them or had not directly discussed with them regarding what is happening. This is a case for concern, since it appears from the information given by the children that they are worried and had not been given the information in full at the start of the process and that this was the first opportunity for them to voice their concerns and put forward their views

2. Does 1. Perhaps the children at the new school will be different to me. 1 anything about 2. I might be bullied. 4 this concern 3. The different rules that they will have at the new school 1 you? 4. I will lose my friends 1 5. Perhaps I won’t be able to have such an important part in the Christmas 1 Show 6. I won’t know where everything is at the new school. 1 7. Children not liking me at the new school and not wanting to be my 1 friends. 8. Leaving my friends. 1 9. I’m worried that all the things in Ysgol Llidiardau will be put in the bin. 1 10. That I won’t be part of the rounders team at the new school. 1 11. I’m worried about what they will do with Ysgol Llidiardau 1 12. I’m worried about going to another school because I’m not sure when we 1 will be moving. 13. I don’t know what colour shirts they wear at the other school. 1 14. I’m worried that I won’t like the other school so much. 1 15. I’m worried about the new school – very worried about the size of the 1 class. Officer’s Comments

A number of the pupils had been allowed to visit the schools in the area, but had later learned that one school had already been chosen for them - although officers had recommended that families could choose what school their children would attend. It is obvious that the children are worried about being in new situations, especially meeting new teachers and pupils. The bullying element was mentioned very often by the children. 1. Making more friends 7 3. What are 2. Meeting new teachers 4 you looking 3. More opportunity for being part of different games teams 1 forward to 4. Looking forward to seeing my new class. 1 most? 5. Having a man as Head Teacher. 1 6. Learning the names of the new children. 1 7. Playing with toys at the new school. 1 8. I’m looking forward to playing football. 1 Officer’s Comments

The main remark of the session was ‘making new friends’, they were looking forward to moving to the new school since some of their friends (outside school) attended other schools in the area. But if the Council decides to move them to one specific school, there is no certainty that the pupils will see their friends. 4. What is the 1. Friends 1 most 2. Teachers who can help 1 important 3. Few children in a class 1 thing for you 4. Everyone knowing one another so that everyone can be friends 1 at school? 5. School close to home so that there is no need to use the car – can walk 2 to school.

6. After school clubs 4 7. Having a hearty dinner 1 8. Play equipment outside 2 9. Children having responsibilities such as the School Council, and running a 1 fruit shop. 10. That the school is close to home. 1 11. Older children and younger children mix so that the big children can look 3 after the little children and tell them what to do. 12. A play house for the older children. 1 13. Going on lots of outings. 1 14. Play and work areas for the older children as well as the foundation phase 1 children. 15. Kind teachers who enjoy a joke. 2 16. Having a park 3 17. Colourful school. 1 18. Older children and younger children working together. 1 19. Construction area 1 20. Corner for animals e.g. parrot or toad. 2 21. School close to home so that we don’t spend too much time travelling. 1 22. Teachers who sing 1 23. Having a chance to perform in shows and taking part in services 1 24. Having the school close to my house. 1 25. Computers and iPads 1 Officer’s Comments

It is obvious that the pupils know exactly what they would like to see at the school, but one or two of the comments put forward were very interesting. One pupil from the reception class stated that he/she would like a school close to home so that it would be possible to walk to school, and also play with friends after school. It was noted that this would be difficult to do at another school. Officer’s General Comments

The pupils spoke about the fact that they had not been included in the initial part of the process and that they do not fully understand what is happening. It is obvious that they want to be given the latest information regarding the situation, and it is important that, following this consultation, they receive a response to their contribution.

Appendix 4

Analysis and Council’s Response to Comments Received During the Statutory Consultation Period Ysgol Llidiardau

Responses to the Statutory Consultation on the Proposal to Close Ysgol Llidiardau, Rhoshirwaun on August 31, 2013

4 Welsh written responses were received

including theincluding comment No. of correspondence Comment Code

Comments Gwynedd Council’s Response

1 Education 1.1 Governors and parents decided unanimously to support the 3 The School Governing Body and Llidiardau parents at a meeting early in the year (January decision to close the school and the decision was reached due to 2013) supported the decision of the school governors to close the voluntarily, for the the view that the welfare of the children should have priority. benefit of the pupils. It was noted that the discussion needs to move on as the school's position is vulnerable; It was noted that there are no concerns about the quality of education at the school at present and there is a need to ensure • The school's numbers are a cause for concern. In September 2012 - 14 pupils were that lack of numbers and funding implications are the reasons for enrolled in school closure. • Prospective numbers - Forecasts show 14 pupils in 2013, 15 pupils in 2014 and 16 pupils 2016 and 2015 • The number of surplus places - 75% of surplus places (43 in number in Ysgol Llidiardau). • Ysgol Llidiardau receives an additional sum to the normal allocation through the minimum staffing protection policy. The total of this additional amount in the financial year 2012/2013 was £17,534. There is only enough funding to employ a Head and an assistant. • Cost per pupil at Ysgol Llidiardau is £8,544 (2012/2013), compared to the average County cost per pupil for the same period of £3,838 .

Gwynedd Council's Cabinet decided at its meeting on 27 February 2013 to undertake a consultation process in accordance with the statutory requirements of Section 29 of the Standards and Framework Act 1998 on the closure of Ysgol Llidiardau and noted Ysgol Crud y Werin as the alternative school, offering specific special transport provision during the transitional period.

During the consultation, points were noted about educational issues, and it was clearly noted in the consultation meetings by local representatives that they had decided to close the school voluntarily for the reasons of lack of numbers and sustainability, and not because of concerns about the quality of the education.

It was recognised during the consultation that the numbers in the school have been low for a few years and that has been challenging. It appears that the number of pupils in Ysgol Llidiardau is likely to remain low, under 20 in number. If the proposal was realised, subject to parental choice Ysgol Crud y Werin would have approximately 72 pupils (based on numbers for September 2012).

If the proposal is realised, there will be opportunities for pupils to be educated in groups of peers with a much smaller range of ages and an opportunity to improve educational experience and social skills.

1.2 Before the transfer it would benefit Llidiardau children to become 1 The Council agreed that it would be beneficial for arrangements to be made to facilitate fami liar with their peers and teachers in the prospective schools. transfer of pupils from one school to another. The Council may advise the Heads of the Ask whether the Council is willing to ensure visits or collaboration schools on how best to do this and encourage arrangements between schools to ensure between the schools again in the coming months to ensure a that pupils become familiar with their new school in accordance with the proposals smooth transition for children. consulted upon.

2 Travel and Transport 2.1 Concern about the interim arrangement for the current pupils of 3 Because of an exceptional historical position, the area of the schools’ catchment areas Ysgol Llidiardau. We ask you to recommend free transport to the overlap: three schools in question in September 2013, including Ysgol Crud • Ysgol Llidiardau and Ysgol Pont y Gof catchment areas overlap in the old y Werin, Ysgol Pont y Gof, and Ysgol Tudweiliog. / Ysgol Llidiardau Ysgol Bryncroes catchment area, catchment area already borders that of Ysgol Tudweiliog and there • Ysgol Llidiardau ac Ysgol Crud y Werin catchment areas overlap in the old is a mile between the Tudweiliog catchment area and the children’s Ysgol Rhiw catchment area. homes / Ysgol Tudweiliog’s bus begins its journey Rhoshirwaun / The following were suggested for the transitional period only:

• Free transport for those pupils enrolled in Ysgol Llidiardau at present, to Ysgol Crud y Werin, Aberdaron or Ysgol Pont y Gof, Botwnnog specifically, if they live more than 2 miles from their school of choice, or to receive free transport due to the nature of the road in accordance with current transport policy. • This would be a temporary arrangement for pupils on the school roll only and for their time at the school

The Council looked at a number of factors when considering transport arrangements and admissions arrangements. The rationale for the interim transport arrangements and for choosing Ysgol Crud y Werin as the catchment area school if Ysgol Llidiardau is closed can be summarized as follows;

Travelling distance - Ysgol Crud y Werin and Ysgol Pont y Gof are the two schools closest to Ysgol Llidiardau. Ysgol Crud y Werin has been noted as the alternative school as part of this proposal being only 2.5 miles from the present site of Ysgol Llidiardau, so it is the school geographically closest in time and travelling distance. This is the school that would mean the least travel for the vast majority of Llidiardau pupils (11 out of 14 pupils). Due to the catchment areas overlapping in the Bryncroes area because of historical factors, free transport is offered to Ysgol Pont y Gof during the transitional period. In comparison - the travelling distance to Ysgol Tudweiliog is 6.6 miles.

Historical patterns - Approximately 50% of pupils who live in Ysgol Llidiardau catchment area already attend Ysgol Crud y Werin which shows a tradition of the flow of pupils is already established in the area. All pupils who live in the optional catchment area of Rhiw attend Ysgol Crud y Werin. The research of pupils’ dwellings shows that only one child attends Ysgol Tudweiliog from the present Ysgol Llidiardau catchment area, which suggests that no natural pull has previously existed.

Surplus Places - There are more surplus places at Ysgol Crud y Werin than any nearby school (27 or 32% of surplus places), and so there is an opportunity to rationalize those numbers of surplus places. There are 18 surplus places at Ysgol Pont y Gof - so there is room there to receive any pupils wishing to attend. In particular there are only 8 surplus places in Ysgol Tudweiliog, and so there would not be room for all the pupils of Ysgol Llidiardau to attend that school. In addition, the forecast of numbers for Ysgol Tudweiliog identifies a natural increase within its current catchment area to its full capacity. It would be irresponsible for the authorities to put together a proposal that would mean that there would not be room for all Llidiardau pupils to attend the same school if they wish to do so, and also it creates problems for designated school in time in terms of admissions issues.

The Council has carefully considered the request made during the consultation to include Ysgol Tudweiliog in the interim arrangements - but a rationale has been clearly set out above about the arrangements for a choice of two existing schools to current pupils; extending the offer to the particular school in question cannot be justified without then justifying why the offer could not be extended to other schools in the Botwnnog catchment area and beyond as well. In addition, the Council wants to stabilise the movement of pupils and ensure clarity in the school catchments in the area. 2.2 We ask you to consider free transport for the younger children of 3 As regards this request to extend the offer of transport to younger siblings of current Ysgol Llidiardau families who have not yet started school, pupils, it is judged that the Council must consider and balance a number of factors, which include;

- Ensuring fairness to current pupils who will be affected by the proposal - Taking into account the authority’s School Transport Policy. It must also be remembered that the Council must consider the issue as a precedent for future situations and fairness of decisions already made in other areas - The need to be definite in terms of deadlines of any interim arrangements as there is an attempt here to tidy catchment area arrangements and future clarity about these issues.

Given that the proposed arrangements have already taken into account the need to tidy historic arrangements while respecting the County Transport Policy, it is noted that the offer is made in good time so that parents can consider this when choosing a school for all their children - those who attend the present school and their younger children.

3 Site Matters 3.1 We ask the Council to listen to the local community about the 3 As part of the steps to mitigate the effect of closing a school in an area – if there is a local proposed use of Ysgol Llidiardau school building and empathize wish, the Council will ask its Regeneration Officers to support the community in with the needs and wishes of that community. considering any after-use of land and buildings released as a result of this proposal. This will be done in accordance with the operational policies and protocol the Council had already adopted back in 2010.

4 Staff 4.1 We ask please that the Council give all the help in their power to 2 A detailed staffing policy was developed by Gwynedd Council in collaboration with Trade ensure that the school's current staff find new jobs in the area. Unions and heads. The policy will underpin any redundancies arising from this proposal. Clear and open communications are integral to the successful implementation of any proposals. It was explained to members of staff during the consultation period that Personnel Officers are available to assist them and that every effort will be made to try to get alternative jobs where it is possible

5 Community 5.1 Closing Ysgol Llidiardau will have a negative effect on Neuadd 2 The Council can encourage this use of the hall in Rhoshirwaun but it is a decision for Rhoshirwaun as the school runs activities in the hall from time to individual schools and their Heads and governors how to run their schools and community time. We kindly ask if it is possible for Ysgol Crud y Werin to plan activity, but it is agreed that such an arrangement would benefit the entire region. some school activities in Neuadd Rhoshirwaun to mitigate some of the negative impact here.

6 Statutory Consultation Process 6.1 In November 2012 the Governing Body decided to close the 2 During the consultation, some parents were unhappy with the proposed interim transport school, with parents agreeing in January 2013 on the grounds that arrangements, and they have suggested that they would consider opposing any proposal by there is a choice of attending three other local schools. If the the Statutory Notice which may mean that we will then have to wait for the Minister to transport issue is not resolved quickly and positively, some parents make a decision on the matter (which may be beyond September). In this case - this could will oppose the school closure which will mean that the matter has result in a very small number of pupils at the school next September, which is going to to go to the Education Minister / This means that there is a strong create a practically challenging situation to the Governors and the Education Department possibility that some current parents will choose to send their for a period to ensure fairness for that small number of pupils. children to Ysgol Llidiardau until the end of the statutory process and staff and resources will have to be provided for those children in Llidiardau in September 2013

6.2 Ysgol Llidiardau and Ysgol Tudweiliog have worked together on 2 The consultation document considers a number of different models for this situation. But specific activities in the past because they are geographically close the rationale why a preferred model will be introduced was explained in detail in the and therefore it is a natural choice for some Llidiardau parents that consultation document and meeting, in order to seek views and comments. they would want to send their children there in September 2013 / Ysgol Llidiardau catchment area already borders the catchment area The Council has carefully considered the request to include Ysgol Tudweiliog in the interim of Ysgol Tudweiliog and there is less than a mile distance from the arrangements - but a rationale has been clearly set out above about the arrangements for a catchment boundary of Ysgol Tudweiliog to the homes of children choice of two existing schools to current pupils; extending the offer to the particular school presently attending Ysgol Llidiardau but who wish to attend Ysgol in question cannot be justified without then justifying why the offer could not be extended Tudweiliog in September / The statutory consultation document to other schools in the Botwnnog catchment area and beyond as well. ignores the school provision in Ysgol Tudweiliog even though the school was part of the original discussion with Llidiardau parents The rationale of the reasons for the interim transport arrangements (noted above) and for and is one of the catchment area that borders Ysgol Llidiardau choosing Ysgol Crud y Werin as the catchment area school should Ysgol Llidiardau be closed are as follows;

7 General 7.1 Ask that the council ensures that Ysgol Llidiardau resources are 1 The Council can provide guidance and advice on the disposal of property of the school if shared between the four local schools that will receive the children there is a decision to close it. The protocol has already been adopted in other areas, and in September 2013 - Ysgol Crud y Werin, Ysgol Pont y Gof, Ysgol that those arrangements seem to be working under the Heads’ supervision. The Council is Tudweiliog and Ysgol Foel Gron to ensure local benefit from the keen to ensure full support to the school representatives during the period of change. resources / We ask the council to give full support and assistance to us as a governing body, parents of pupils and school staff during school closure in scheduling, counselling, clearance, administration and so on. 7.2 There is a cost associated with changing schools. Our parents will 1 It was explained during the consultation that unfortunately it will not be possible for the have to buy new uniforms for the children. One requirement of Council to give assistance on this matter in order to ensure fairness to other schools across Ysgol Llidiardau parents is financial assistance to purchase uniforms the county, but a discussion of possibilities that might be considered has been started. for their children.