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FDA - Training Health Care Providers on Pain Management and Safe Use of Opioid Analgesics

May 9, 2017

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1 FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION

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4 Training Health Care Providers on

5 Pain Management and Safe Use of Opioid Analgesics

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7 Exploring the Path Forward – An FDA Workshop

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10 Tuesday, May 9, 2017

11 8:37 a.m. to 5:03 p.m.

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16 Sheraton Silver Spring

17 8777 Georgia Avenue

18 Silver Spring, Maryland

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1 C O N T E N T S

2 AGENDA ITEM PAGE

3 Opening Remarks

4 Janet Woodcock, MD 8

5 Ongoing Efforts to Address the Opioid

6 Epidemic

7 Douglas Throckmorton, MD 21

8 FDA ER/LA Opioid Analgesic REMS

9 Claudia Manzo, PharmD 31

10 Opioid Prescribing Education and Prescription

11 Drug Monitoring: A State by State Overview

12 Lisa Robin 44

13 Overview of State Efforts to Promote

14 Prevention and Education: National Governors

15 Association (NGA) Experience

16 Melissa Becker 53

17 New Mexico – A State Experience:

18 Implementation, Maintenance, and Evaluation

19 Joanna Katzman, MD, MSPH 63

20 Questions and Answers 76

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1 C O N T E N T S (continued)

2 AGENDA ITEM PAGE

3 Provider Education and Outcomes

4 Fred Brason 94

5 Federal Healthcare System Experience: VA

6 Implementation, Maintenance, and Evaluation

7 Chester "Bernie" Good, MD 110

8 Private Healthcare System: Kaiser Permanente

9 Carol Havens, MD 121

10 Questions and Answers 137

11 Federal Mechanisms for Required Training

12 Prescriber Education: FDA REMS Options and

13 Considerations

14 Doris Auth, PharmD 149

15 DEA Perspective

16 James Arnold 168

17 Open Public Hearing

18 Norman Kahn, MD 180

19 Thomas Sullivan 183

20 Cynthia Kear 189

21 Eunan Maguire 192

22 Katherine Cates-Wessel 195

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1 C O N T E N T S (continued)

2 AGENDA ITEM PAGE

3 Open Public Hearing (continued)

4 Richard Lawhern 200

5 Laura Wooster 204

6 Clif Knight, MD 206

7 Ilana Hardesty 210

8 Steven Passik, PhD 213

9 Ashley Walton 217

10 Linda Cheek 220

11 Kara Gainer 223

12 Panel Discussion – Professional Associations

13 Terry Toigo, MBA, RPh 226

14 Questions and Answers

15 State Panel Discussion

16 Peter Lurie, MD, MPH 299

17 David Brown 300

18 Questions and Answers 353

19 Closing Remarks

20 Douglas Throckmorton, MD 370

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1 P R O C E E D I N G S

2 (8:37 a.m.)

3 DR. THROCKMORTON: Good morning, everybody.

4 If you could sit down we'll go ahead and get

5 started. Today, we have a busy two-day meeting

6 here.

7 My name is Doug Throckmorton. I am the

8 deputy center director at the Center for Drugs, and

9 I've met many of you at some of the other meetings

10 we've had related to the opioids epidemic in the

11 past. Welcome to you again today.

12 Very busy, very important two-day meeting

13 here to talk about the place that education has,

14 especially the place that federal education has in

15 addressing the opioids crisis that I know that we

16 are all very familiar with and all committed to

17 doing something to address that that's meaningful,

18 that makes a real difference.

19 The two days here are particularly exciting

20 for me because of the broad range of groups that we

21 have here. Mary tells me that there are 25

22 organizations at the state federal level, consumer

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1 advocacy groups, and from state and local, medical

2 boards, pharmacy boards, and the like, all

3 scheduled to talk at one part of the meeting or the

4 other in the next couple of days. In addition,

5 from the federal space, we have representatives

6 from almost the entire range of agencies that are

7 working in this area CDC, CMS, SAMHSA, NIDA, FDA

8 obviously. I'm probably missing -- oh, DEA is

9 going to be coming as well.

10 So a really broad range of voices, something

11 that is really important for us as an agency, as we

12 decide where to go next in this area of federal

13 education. And then, decide how to do it as best

14 we can, to do the most effective job at educating

15 and training healthcare professionals in this

16 terribly important area.

17 Our intent is to listen closely and to take

18 the things that you all say seriously. I am going

19 to be planning on summarizing what we've heard at

20 the end of the second day. I hope we're going to

21 have a vigorous discussion, one that we will be

22 able to make important use of.

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1 Before I turn the podium over to

2 Dr. Woodcock, I have some housekeeping things I

3 have been asked to remind people of. One, please

4 turn off or silence your phones. There is a one-

5 hour lunch break. The restrooms are down the hall

6 and to the right, important things like that.

7 The open public hearings are scheduled each

8 day. If you are interested in speaking, go to the

9 registration table. That's right outside and let

10 them know, and we will make time for you.

11 There is a docket that has been set up for

12 this. That docket will remain open until July

13 10th. As you'll hear, we are hoping that docket is

14 going to be useful for you for giving us some

15 additional information, things that we should take

16 into consideration.

17 A transcript of the meeting will be posted

18 within 30 days of the meeting. A webcast is being

19 done, and that will be archived for later viewing.

20 Because there is a webcast, if you make comments,

21 please make them into a microphone so they can be

22 captured and available for people listening on the

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1 Web. And then finally, again, thank you very much

2 for participating in this. We are taking this very

3 seriously, and appreciate all of your time and

4 attention to this matter.

5 With that, I am going to turn the podium

6 over to Dr. Woodcock, who is the head of the Center

7 for Drug Evaluation and Research to give us some

8 opening remarks.

9 Janet?

10 Opening Remarks – Janet Woodcock

11 DR. WOODCOCK: Thanks Doug, and good

12 morning, everyone. I am very happy to be here and

13 kick this meeting off. To start, I would really

14 like to step back a little bit and say where we

15 are, we have come from, how did we get to this

16 place.

17 Well, right now, as everyone in this room

18 knows very well, there is an epidemic of use of

19 prescription opioids and related substance abuse.

20 And FDA has been executing an action plan that we

21 published a year ago on a large number of steps we

22 are trying to take to help control this.

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1 I think everyone agrees that this can't be

2 done by one entity alone. That's why there's so

3 many different groups represented here. It is

4 going to take concerted effort at the federal,

5 state, local, professional society level to manage

6 this.

7 But FDA's part of the plan, we try to

8 decrease exposure, overall exposure to prescription

9 opioids. We've been approving alternative pain

10 medications, so that there are other tools that

11 prescribers have when someone presents with pain.

12 We've been stressing education under our

13 REMS program and offering educational programs for

14 several years, and that's been very successful. A

15 large number of healthcare professionals have taken

16 CME programs, educational programs, under this.

17 We also have been trying to decrease the

18 non-medical use of opioids by approving

19 abuse-deterrent formulations of various types, and

20 that is an experiment that we still are assessing

21 how effective various abuse-deterrent formulations

22 might be. We view that we have version 1.0, maybe

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1 1.2 of abuse-deterrent formulation. We hope we get

2 up to a very effective abuse-deterrent

3 formulations, but of course any formulation can be

4 overcome; this is not the entire answer.

5 We're also trying to decrease non-medical

6 use by encouraging disposal and take-back

7 practices, so that there are not so many

8 prescription bottles available, not being used.

9 We are trying to decrease overdosing deaths

10 and use of naloxone in various forms as an antidote

11 to the respiratory depression caused by opioids,

12 and we would like to see more treatment options for

13 people who have opioid substance-use disorder.

14 That is a field that probably can be explored much

15 more and a great opportunity to treat those who

16 already have issues.

17 But today we are here to talk about

18 prescriber education. Now why is this so

19 important? To stress the importance, I would like

20 to go back through the history of what happened

21 here.

22 This epidemic is fueled by opioids that are

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1 legally prescribed. This epidemic of prescription

2 opioids, generally they come from an opioid

3 prescription that was written and somehow made its

4 way into a problematic place.

5 Back in the '80s, back when I was training,

6 and probably many of the health professionals in

7 this room were in training in the early days, '70s,

8 '80s, I had cancer patients who refused to take

9 opioids for pain relief, for cancer pain relief,

10 because they were afraid of the side effects they

11 told me. They said they were afraid they would get

12 addicted. That was the societal attitude at the

13 time.

14 I don't know if that happened to you Doug,

15 and maybe you are a little bit younger than I am.

16 But for those who trained later and later in those

17 decades, the attitudes changed.

18 By 2010, in contrast, there were more than

19 200 million outpatient prescriptions dispensed for

20 opioids in this country, a huge number of

21 prescriptions. So there was a sea-change between

22 that time that was I think coming off a heroin

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1 epidemic following the Vietnam War and so forth,

2 where people were simply afraid to use opioids.

3 They were used very sparingly. The public was

4 afraid of them, to the point where 200 million

5 prescriptions would be dispensed.

6 What happened is, of course societal

7 attitudes change, and then prescribing patterns

8 changed. There was this huge increase in

9 prescribing over three decades. There was a shift

10 first in medical dogma about abuse potential when

11 used to treat pain. And I was taught that

12 prescription for pain would not result in any

13 untoward effects for patients as far as substance

14 abuse.

15 That was the teaching at the time, and that

16 had shifted quite a bit. And it was coupled with

17 an increased awareness of under-treatment of pain

18 and need for therapy of people in pain.

19 This is something that is still present

20 today, that people with terrible pain are under-

21 treated. We have heard this at our patient focus

22 drug development meetings, where people with sickle

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1 cell disease and other painful conditions come and

2 talk about how they suffer terrible pain, and the

3 pain is not adequately treated.

4 That recognition was a legitimate

5 recognition, but the shift in medical dogma

6 probably made people feel more comfortable using

7 opioids in that case. Then opioid drugs were

8 promoted for these uses, and all of this over

9 several decades resulted in this massive shift in

10 prescriber behavior.

11 What were the consequences of this shift?

12 Well, the main consequence was a huge increase in

13 population exposure to prescription opioids. Over

14 200 million prescriptions is massive population

15 exposure. There was a surge in opioid-related

16 substance abuse disorders and deaths from overdose,

17 and this is still ongoing as we all know.

18 This was abetted of course by illegal

19 practices or unethical practices such as the rise

20 of pill mills and so forth that fueled the

21 availability of opioids out there. And many with

22 substance abuse disorder today state that the

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1 source of drug is obtaining or stealing from

2 friends or relatives.

3 As I said, these are prescribed drugs, these

4 emanate from these 200 million prescriptions or

5 what is given out post-surgery, or so forth, to

6 patients when they leave the hospital.

7 Despite the general belief, the vast

8 majority of exposure is not to the extended release

9 or long-acting. The vast majority of exposure is

10 to the immediate-release formulations, which people

11 feel very comfortable about prescribing, but this

12 is hundreds of millions of prescriptions basically.

13 So it turns out that that medical dogma of

14 the late '80s and '90s was really not correct. The

15 rate of substance abuse appears to correlate with

16 most substances that are abused with population

17 exposure, and brief exposure can lead to prolonged

18 exposure, something that prescribers were not

19 taught in those decades.

20 There was a recent article in JAMA Surgery

21 that said exposure to opioids post-surgery results

22 in extended use in about 6 percent of people. That

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1 isn't substance abuse. That is simply the people

2 who weren't taking opioids that came in, and they

3 had even minor surgery unrelated to a pain

4 condition, 6 percent of these people were still

5 taking opioids 90 to 180 days after the surgical

6 episode.

7 Similarly for opioid prescriptions for

8 musculoskeletal or head pain indications, 6 percent

9 had persistent opioid use one year after the

10 initial prescription, and this increased to

11 30 percent if the initial prescription was for more

12 than a month of opioids.

13 So people who are exposed to opioids, even

14 briefly, some of them may become persistent users

15 of opioids. Some fraction of them actually may

16 develop problems with the opioid.

17 The consequences of 220 million

18 prescriptions written, some proportion of those

19 people -- and that's a lot of people exposed,

20 although, of course some of these are refills. But

21 some people exposed go on to chronic use, a lower

22 proportion, but a substantive proportion develop

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1 opioid substance abuse disorder.

2 A large proportion of patients who are

3 prescribed these 220 million prescriptions take

4 only a few doses or none, but some only take a few

5 pills and stop because of the side effects. The

6 side effects of dysphoria, nausea, constipation,

7 and so forth, are relatively intolerable to many

8 people.

9 The problem is what these folk do, many of

10 them -- and there are some of you in this room I

11 would wager -- is put these in their home medicine

12 cabinet. In case they may have some injury, they

13 want to have some pain medicine on hand. This is a

14 target for adolescent use or substance abusers, or

15 people who want to traffic in these. And that's

16 where it comes from when people say that the vast

17 majority of the opioids they obtain, the substance

18 abusers, get them from friends, relatives, or steal

19 them from people they know.

20 Clinicians then need good tools for pain

21 management to control this epidemic because we

22 still have an imperative to treat pain and manage

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1 pain somehow. This imperative to treat pain is not

2 going to go away. In approaching a patient with

3 pain, though, you need to understand clearly and

4 consider carefully the benefits and the liabilities

5 each modality might use.

6 So what happened here I think is, number 1,

7 the liabilities of prescribing opioids were not

8 fully understood or minimized, and we have an

9 entire generation of prescribers who were taught

10 this. Some effective modalities as we know are

11 limited because of reimbursement issues, for

12 example physical therapy or cognitive behavioral

13 therapy, so the tools clinicians have to treat pain

14 may be somewhat limited.

15 Clinicians may not be aware of other drug

16 modalities, each of which have their own

17 liabilities. For example, for a time, it was

18 advised by some professional societies that people

19 with heart disease who had chronic pain be

20 prescribed an opioid rather than an NSAID, because

21 NSAIDs of course have some potential liabilities in

22 the cardiovascular system.

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1 So there are trade-offs, and choosing pain

2 modalities should be a sophisticated decision that

3 weighs all the costs and benefits of whatever

4 intervention is done.

5 Because opioids have been inexpensive, it's

6 easy to write a prescription, it's over and done

7 with, they have been seen as a good way to provide

8 relief. But the societal consequences now we are

9 all familiar with. So this is why it comes back to

10 basically changing prescriber behavior. We will

11 not be able to control this epidemic unless we're

12 able to help clinicians manage pain better and more

13 comfortably without prescribing opioids.

14 Prescriber education on opioids for pain

15 management, we have to recognize medically that

16 opioids will continue to be the mainstay for pain

17 relief in many situations. For example, acute

18 trauma, post-op, immediate post-op and so forth,

19 we're not going to probably get away from opioids.

20 So the prescriber awareness of issues is critical.

21 Renewed understanding that any opioid

22 prescription, any prescription, conveys risk, just

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1 like any other drug. There are benefits and risks

2 to prescribing. But these risks are either to the

3 patients or to others if not properly dispensed.

4 Prescribers in balancing these risks need to

5 understand what the actual risks are.

6 Renewed understanding that duration of

7 dosing of opioids and the amount prescribed is

8 related to the risk. Often larger numbers of

9 tablets are provided to allow the patient, if they

10 have continuing pain, to continue to have pain

11 relief. However, you have to consider the down

12 sides of having these additional unconsumed opioids

13 around, or if the patient, even as their pain

14 becomes more manageable, continues to take opioids.

15 An up-to-date understanding of the modern

16 signs of chronic pain and its management, we have

17 come a long way from the early 1980s in our

18 understanding of chronic pain and how to manage it,

19 and that's been kind of a sea-change in the

20 understanding of chronic pain. So we need to make

21 sure that prescribers are fully informed about all

22 this as they make their choice of a modality for

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1 patients.

2 I think the question for this meeting and

3 the question for the FDA, and the question for

4 everyone who's trying to help manage this epidemic

5 and also make sure that pain is adequately treated,

6 is how can we ensure prescriber understanding of

7 pain management? Many practitioners were not

8 trained in the modern science of understanding

9 pain. And how do we balance both the clear risks

10 of opioids and the need for treatment of pain in

11 moving forward?

12 This is going to require additional and

13 extensive prescriber education and behavior change.

14 So the question on the table is how do we enable

15 prescriber behavior change, whether that be more

16 explicit professional guidelines, mandatory

17 education, whatever is needed. How do we do that

18 so that practitioners have the tools that they need

19 to treat their patients when they present to them

20 with a complaint of pain?

21 Thank you, and good luck with this meeting.

22 (Applause.)

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1 Presentation – Douglas Throckmorton

2 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thanks, Dr. Woodcock.

3 I am going to continue in the vein of just

4 some framing comments. As you have heard, the

5 focus of the meeting then is on the place of

6 education in assuring that we address the opioids

7 epidemic while continuing to make sure that pain

8 treatment is available for patients when

9 appropriate.

10 What I'm going to do is I'm going to put

11 that discussion to a little broader context, talk a

12 little bit first about the federal efforts that are

13 going on.

14 As you are going to hear for the next couple

15 of days of speakers, there are many, many federal

16 efforts going on in the opioids space. The focus

17 today and tomorrow; however, is on education, as

18 Dr. Woodcock said. What is the role of education,

19 especially in the federal efforts, and how can we

20 do it most effectively?

21 To do that, I want to first talk a little

22 bit about where education fits into the broader

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1 landscape of federal activities, talking about HHS

2 activities in particular, and then drill down to

3 talk about FDA and FDA's activities around

4 education.

5 Following that, we are going to be hearing

6 from a series of representatives with expertise at

7 the state, local, and healthcare system level to

8 talk about their own work that's going on, so that

9 we sort of have an idea of the broad landscape of

10 things that are going on.

11 Then, we are going to break into panels.

12 And at those panels, they're going to be given

13 specific questions that we ask each of the panel

14 members to confront, to really discuss, so that we

15 can have a full discussion, a full understanding of

16 their answers to those two challenging issues.

17 What's the role of education, especially in the

18 federal space in regards to opioids, and how can we

19 do it effectively?

20 So the overall message, as I said, the broad

21 message is one of engagement. The federal system

22 is engaged. We are doing an enormous number of

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1 things across a wide variety of activities related

2 to opioids, both to assure their appropriate use

3 and to confront their inappropriate use, and change

4 behaviors to make that use better. FDA within that

5 context is doing a great many things, and we need

6 your help at this meeting to do those things as

7 effectively as possible.

8 We're all familiar with this slide. We've

9 seen these numbers from the CDC; I expect that we

10 may see them again today. I'm the first one, so I

11 get to show it first.

12 This is obviously an unacceptable trend. I

13 show it to show that the trend is over time. This

14 isn't something that just happened. It's something

15 that has been going on for a significant number of

16 years, and we're not making the progress we want

17 to. We want to see these curves change, and we've

18 not yet seen that trajectory change the way we all

19 would like.

20 The second slide I want to show relates to

21 overdose deaths between 1999 and 2014. I show this

22 slide for one simple reason. We're all in it

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1 together. This is not a problem of one county, or

2 one state, or one region in the country. This is

3 something that we all have to face.

4 I don't know how well you can see, but going

5 from blue to red is bad on this slide. We have all

6 gone in the wrong direction, so as a country we

7 need to confront this.

8 HHS has been working for many years -- I am

9 familiar with work now going on for more than a

10 decade -- in a great many places. Most recently,

11 the HHS opioid strategy has been released, and you

12 can see here five areas that HHS is focusing on:

13 strengthening public heath surveillance, supporting

14 cutting-edge research, advancing the practice of

15 pain management, targeting the availability and

16 distribution of overdose-reversing drugs, and

17 improving access to treatment and recovery

18 services.

19 We could have two-day meetings on any of

20 these five areas. My focus is going to be on the

21 advancing of the practice of pain management

22 because I think that's the place where the

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1 educational aspects that we're going to be talking

2 about fit most neatly.

3 However, from that HHS strategy, we've also

4 arrived at a series of goals that guide us;

5 empowering the public through education and

6 awareness, preventing opioid abuse and related

7 health consequences, improving function and quality

8 of life, ensuring patient access to addiction

9 treatments, and supporting people for long-range

10 recovery. These things are the things that guide

11 us day-to-day as we do our work.

12 But I want to return to the focus on

13 advancing the practice of pain management. I

14 promise I will not walk through this slide. I want

15 you to read through it though and focus on the

16 bolded sub-bullets there. CDC treatment

17 prescribing guidelines, national pain strategy

18 implementation, REMS and associate education, and

19 research on coverage and evidence.

20 These are about training and education. So,

21 within this central focus for HHS activities around

22 opioids, you see the focus on education and

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1 training, the recognition that this is an important

2 aspect of addressing the opioids epidemic at the

3 federal level.

4 There are other examples that we can point

5 to, and I want to make sure that you know those

6 were not all of the things that HHS is doing in

7 this area. I've highlighted a few more that I'm

8 aware of that the NIH Pain Consortium is working on

9 through NIDA's leadership; that the Surgeon General

10 has put out recently; that the CDC has put out;

11 that the National Pain Strategy has articulated.

12 Again and again, the theme of education, the

13 theme of making certain that the best possible

14 information is made available to the healthcare

15 practitioner comes up, and it's something that

16 we're going to be talking about for the next couple

17 of days. But I want to say just as a beginning,

18 there is a great deal of federal effort. Part of

19 the discussion today is how best to harness those

20 efforts and make sure they are as effective as

21 possible.

22 The FDA is obviously a part of many of those

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1 activities. I participate in many of those groups,

2 as do the members of the FDA team that works on

3 opioids. We also have our own action plan that we

4 announced in February of last year in response to

5 the opioids epidemic. We said that we recognized

6 that we needed to have an articulated set of goals

7 that would drive the activities of our agency.

8 Here again, we put out an action plan that I

9 will not walk through systematically. You can go

10 and look at it at the link at the bottom. The

11 point I wanted to focus on was in bold: updating

12 the risk evaluation and mitigation strategy program

13 for prescription opioids.

14 The activity you have today and tomorrow was

15 identified as one of the highest priorities for my

16 agency last February. So the work that you are

17 going to help us with in the next couple of days is

18 really essential to us to complete our actions

19 under the action plan to give us the best possible

20 information and help that we need.

21 We are going to do that through a series of

22 possible activities. FDA is a regulatory agency,

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1 so we can use the kinds of regulatory tools that

2 Congress has given us to improve the safe use of

3 opioids through approvals, and through rulemaking,

4 and guidances, and the like. We can develop

5 policies that help support the development of

6 products that are safer, are more effective, are

7 non-addictive potentially.

8 We can work with other groups and we can

9 work internally to improve the science of the

10 treatment of pain, identify new products that are

11 otherwise less susceptible to abuse, improve drug

12 take-backs, the like. And then finally, we can

13 partner with outside groups to extend our reach to

14 communicate to patients, communicate to

15 prescribers, to help make sure opioids are used as

16 safely as possible.

17 Today's focus then is on our efforts around

18 training and education. We need to have comments

19 from the panelists on the relative role of federal

20 training and education in the larger landscape of

21 activities aimed at improving pain management,

22 including the use of opioids, analgesics. The

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1 focus is on education because we believe that is a

2 central aspect of the things that the FDA needs to

3 do. We want to do it as effectively as possible.

4 Once we've framed it, once we

5 understand -- we've heard the comments about the

6 role of education in the activities at the federal

7 level, the merits and challenges of particular

8 mechanisms of education, semi-mandatory

9 restrictive, less restrictive -- we need to

10 understand what kind of education you believe is

11 most effective and most necessary for the federal

12 space to undertake.

13 You're going to hear a lot of different

14 kinds of models of educational activities. The

15 question for us is, what's the right one for the

16 FDA to use? This will include a discussion of the

17 role, if any, for mandatory prescriber education.

18 Third, the merits and challenges of

19 utilizing partnerships. We understand the value of

20 partnerships. I'm proud to say we have many, many

21 partnerships with people in this room and outside

22 the room trying to extend the reach that the FDA

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1 has, trying to do the job that we need to do

2 because we can't do it alone, as Dr. Woodcock said.

3 We need your discussion about how best to manage

4 that, how to identify those opportunities and make

5 the best use of them.

6 Then finally, we would like to have some

7 discussion about the aspects of the opioids

8 epidemic best targeted by education. Our current

9 blueprint or the current outline that we use to

10 describe the education that the FDA is interested

11 in is focused on drug-specific information. It

12 talks specifically about products and their

13 particular issues.

14 Is that the right frame, or should we be

15 thinking about a broader framing about the use of

16 opioids in a larger aspect of pain management?

17 With these kinds of discussion, these kinds

18 of feedback, we can take back the information and

19 make the decisions that we need to, the decisions

20 that the later speakers this morning will lay out,

21 the kinds of decisions that FDA has before us.

22 With that, I am going to end and turn this

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1 over to Claudia Manzo -- oh sorry, let me do one

2 other thing. I just want to summarize where we

3 started.

4 We are working very hard to address the

5 opioids epidemic as a part of this larger HHS

6 effort. Our action plan provides the framework we

7 are using. As I pointed out, it has a large focus,

8 a specific focus, on education. Since the action

9 plan was announced, we have continued to make

10 significant progress. This meeting, I'm sure, will

11 give us important additional information to

12 continue that good work. And with that, I will

13 thank you very much.

14 Claudia?

15 (Applause.)

16 Presentation – Claudia Manzo

17 DR. MANZO: Good morning. My name is

18 Claudia Manzo. I am the director of the Office of

19 Medication Error Prevention and Risk Management

20 within the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research

21 at FDA.

22 This morning, I will be talking about the

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1 extended-release and long-acting opioid analgesic

2 REMS, the evolution of how we got there, what we

3 know about its effectiveness, and recommendations

4 that we received from an advisory panel about a

5 year ago, and an update on where we are today.

6 So as you heard some of the background by

7 Dr. Woodcock and Dr. Throckmorton, we kind of

8 understand where the problem came from. In the

9 early 2000s, FDA started to receive reports of

10 problems with prescription opioid abuse, especially

11 involving some of these modified formulations. And

12 these reports included information about patients

13 crushing the tablet to defeat the extended-release

14 properties, misusing by several different routes,

15 and reports of addiction, overdose, and death.

16 Despite numerous warnings added to the label

17 and developing individual risk management plans for

18 the individual products, the inappropriate

19 prescribing, misuse, and overdosed deaths continue

20 to rise.

21 Also in 2009, FDA notified the manufacturers

22 of these products, the extended-release and long-

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1 acting opioid analgesics, that their products would

2 require a REMS to ensure that the benefits outweigh

3 the risks. And then between 2009 and 2011, FDA

4 obtained stakeholder input various ways, through

5 public meetings, advisory committee meetings,

6 opening a docket, what the REMS program should look

7 like.

8 This would be the largest REMS to date that

9 FDA would approve. And because of this, it was

10 really important to keep in mind what the scope of

11 the REMS would be and the impact this type of

12 program would have on the healthcare system and

13 patient access.

14 Some of the comments or highlights of

15 comments that we received was that if we applied a

16 REMS only to the extended-release and long-acting

17 products, that there would be a shift in

18 prescribing to the immediate-release opioid

19 analgesics.

20 There was general support for prescriber

21 education. Some strongly supported mandatory

22 training, but felt it was best accomplished if it

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1 was linked to DEA registration or state medical

2 licensure rather than through our REMS authorities.

3 And some stakeholders also felt that real-time

4 verification, the prescriber was trained before the

5 filling of each opioid prescription, would cause

6 some prescribers to opt-out of prescribing these

7 products all together.

8 The other comments were that patient

9 education is important, but shouldn't include

10 patient enrollment, which would be considered

11 overly burdensome and creates stigma and may

12 adversely affect patient access.

13 I'm going to turn a little bit to

14 information about REMS themselves and what they

15 are. A REMS is a required risk management program

16 or plan that utilizes strategies in addition to FDA

17 approved labeling. The Food and Drug

18 Administration Amendments Act added a section

19 within the Food, Drug, and Cosmetics Act to give

20 FDA authority to require these programs from the

21 manufacturers. These programs can be approved

22 either before the drug is approved or after

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1 approval if FDA determines that this program is

2 needed to ensure the benefits outweigh the risks.

3 The REMS are developed and implemented by

4 the manufacturers, so FDA's authority is over the

5 manufacturers. A REMS can include a medication

6 guide or a patient package insert; a communication

7 plan; elements to ensure safe use, which I will

8 describe a little bit more; an implementation

9 system; and a timetable for submission of the

10 assessment of the REMS or how it's performing.

11 The elements to ensure safe use, there are a

12 number of them that can be chosen. I will just

13 point out that you cannot necessarily implement

14 some of these without implementing other ones. And

15 you'll hear more about what a REMS might look like

16 for all of these products from Doris Auth later

17 this morning.

18 So I won't go through each of these. One

19 thing to point out though is that elements can

20 include certification and/or specialized training

21 of healthcare providers who prescribe the drug.

22 The elements to ensure safe use, or ETASU,

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1 can either be restrictive or non-restrictive. If

2 they're restrictive, then that means the components

3 of the REMS are actually linked to dispensing or

4 distribution of the product. Dispensing could not

5 occur without somebody becoming certified for

6 example or undergoing training.

7 For non-restrictive programs, it's generally

8 required that the manufacturers make information

9 available, such as training, but there's no

10 specific link to training and dispensing of the

11 product.

12 The ER/LA opioid analgesic REMS was approved

13 by FDA July 9, 2012, again, after numerous input

14 from stakeholders. This is a shared system REMS,

15 which means it involves all of the manufacturers of

16 these products. Right now we have about 38

17 sponsors that comprise the ER/LA REMS product

18 companies or the companies that have developed and

19 implemented the REMS. It includes approximately 67

20 applications, both innovator and generic products,

21 and I've listed the ingredients that are included.

22 The goal of the REMS is to reduce adverse

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1 outcomes associated with inappropriate prescribing,

2 misuse, and abuse of these products while

3 maintaining access to pain medications.

4 The primary component of the program is

5 prescriber training. There are also materials for

6 patients. There is a one-page medication guide for

7 patients, and they're specific to each product, and

8 there's a patient counseling document that

9 prescribers can use when they are counseling their

10 patients and to provide additional notes or

11 instructions for patients.

12 At the time that the REMS was approved and

13 implemented, FDA required sponsors to send out

14 targeted letters to DEA registered prescribers, as

15 well as numerous organizations and licensing

16 boards, making them aware of the REMS and the need

17 to take the training.

18 The REMS was also approved with a call

19 center and a website that included what the

20 requirements of the REMS were and provided links to

21 the education that was made available. And then

22 finally, there was an assessment piece, which

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1 included an assessment, which we're now getting on

2 an annual basis.

3 The prescriber training, this would be the

4 first time that companies had used continuing

5 education as the means to provide the training to

6 prescribers. The sponsors are meeting their

7 obligation by providing unrestricted grants to the

8 continuing education providers, who then develop

9 the training, and this is based upon the FDA

10 blueprint. As I described before, this is a non-

11 restrictive REMS, so it's not linked to the ability

12 to prescribe or dispense.

13 The FDA blueprint is posted on FDA's

14 website, and it focuses, as Dr. Throckmorton

15 mentioned, on the safe prescribing of the

16 extended-release and long-acting opioid analgesics.

17 There are six domains, which I won't list or

18 discuss. But in order to be considered REMS

19 compliant, it would have to be offered by an

20 accredited CE provider and include all of the

21 elements of the FDA blueprint. It would also need

22 to include a knowledge assessment and would be

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1 subject to an independent audit.

2 At the time that the REMS was approved,

3 there were performance targets that were specified

4 within the REMS itself, and these were based upon

5 an estimated number of prescribers of these

6 products at that time. At that time the estimated

7 number of prescribers was around 320,000, and the

8 first CE became available about nine months after

9 the REMS was approved, so in March of 2013. By two

10 years, 25 percent of opioid prescribers would be

11 trained, and you see the other targets there for

12 the subsequent years.

13 The REMS assessments that are submitted on

14 an annual basis include the number of prescribers

15 that have been trained, information about audits

16 and the quality of the content of the program,

17 results of prescriber and patient surveys,

18 surveillance studies that look at key safety

19 outcomes, as well as drug utilization patterns,

20 which are used to look at changes in prescriber

21 behavior, as well as to try to determine the extent

22 that the program might have on patient access.

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1 On the left, you'll see the training numbers

2 as of two years after the first CE became

3 available. It was a relatively slower up-take. I

4 will point out that the gray bars represent all

5 participants, the dark blue represents participants

6 that have completed the training, and then the

7 light blue really represents the ER/LA opioid

8 prescriber completers, which is the target that we

9 were looking to train.

10 I will say that what you could see is

11 between 2015 and 2016, a huge uptake of

12 participants that were interested in taking and had

13 started the CE training. What's not clear is why

14 they might have completed or exactly who some of

15 these additional participants were.

16 We actually did find that participation was

17 pretty high, particularly for a program that was

18 voluntary, and included a number of healthcare

19 providers that were not targeted for the training.

20 The reason that prescriber targets were not met was

21 not entirely clear, but we do know that there are

22 multiple sources of education, as Dr. Throckmorton

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1 mentioned, and probably a number more that you'll

2 hear about this afternoon.

3 The scope of the training might have been

4 too narrowly focused, so participants may have

5 started it and realized that they weren't

6 interested in taking the rest of it. And of course

7 this was, as we said, not linked to the ability to

8 prescribe.

9 I am not going to go too much into the other

10 findings, just to state that the other findings

11 generally showed positive trends; however, there

12 were a lot of limitations in the way that these

13 assessments were conducted. Particularly with

14 surveys and the surveillance studies, it is unclear

15 whether these reflected the general population and

16 whether we could really attribute any of these

17 changes to the actual REMS program itself because

18 we saw some of these decreases occurring

19 particularly in adverse outcomes prior to the

20 implementation of the REMS.

21 About a year ago, we took this program to a

22 joint Drug Safety Risk Management and Anesthetic

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1 and Analgesic Drug Products advisory committee, and

2 we presented the findings to the committees. We

3 sought their input on alternative methodologies for

4 evaluating the program and also whether the

5 blueprint should be modified and expanded or

6 whether the program should be expanded to include

7 the immediate-release opioid analgesics, and

8 whether just any other modifications should be

9 made.

10 There were three general recommendations

11 from the committees about the program itself. The

12 majority recommended extending the REMS

13 requirements to the immediate-release opioid

14 analgesics, broadening the education to include

15 pain management, and extend the training to other

16 healthcare providers that are involved in the

17 management of patients with pain. And then, the

18 majority recommended mandatory education though

19 they did not believe that the REMS authorities were

20 the best way to implement this.

21 Today, just providing an update on where we

22 are, FDA did invite the applicant holders of all of

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1 the immediate-release, extended-release, and long-

2 acting opioid analgesics to a meeting in January to

3 let them know that we were intending to require

4 REMS for all of these products.

5 The intent of this was to have them to begin

6 to work together. As we said with the ER/LA opioid

7 REMS, there were 38 sponsors. This would require a

8 number more sponsors to work with the existing

9 sponsors.

10 The FDA has also been revising the blueprint

11 to include pain management and the safe use of

12 opioid analgesics, and is also exploring mechanisms

13 to extend that training to the other healthcare

14 providers. FDA is establishing a public docket,

15 which I believe may have opened this morning, and

16 we have the draft blueprint available on the

17 website for this meeting.

18 Here I just have an outline of the draft

19 blueprint, which includes basics of pain management

20 and then creating the pain treatment plan, as you

21 can see.

22 In summary, the ER/LA opioid analgesic REMS

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1 was implemented in 2012 to address the growing

2 epidemic of opioid abuse, addiction, and overdose.

3 FDA intends to modify the REMS to evaluate the

4 blueprint, or modify the blueprint, and intends to

5 add the IR opioid analgesics.

6 We are looking for comments on the blueprint

7 now. This public meeting, as well as comments that

8 are submitted to the docket for this meeting, will

9 help inform next steps on how best to implement the

10 training for opioid prescribers. Thank you.

11 (Applause.)

12 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thanks, Claudia.

13 Those talks give us a general overview of

14 the federal activities and some of the FDA

15 activities focused especially around the REMS.

16 Next, we are going to turn to state and

17 healthcare experience starting with Lisa Robin, who

18 is the chief advocacy officer from the Federation

19 of State Medical Boards.

20 Lisa?

21 Presentation – Lisa Robin

22 MS. ROBIN: Thank you.

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1 Well, good morning, it's always a pleasure

2 to be at these meetings and see all these familiar

3 faces, and looking forward to these next two days.

4 But as you can imagine, the landscapes throughout

5 the states varies significantly. There's such a

6 lack of any coordination it seems among the states,

7 and what we see are some trends that I am going to

8 kind of discuss today that you can see throughout

9 some of the legislative proposals.

10 Everyone is trying to do something, looking

11 for a lot of solutions, and our state legislatures

12 are all wanting to do something. So it looks

13 almost like they're throwing everything against the

14 wall and see what sticks without really thinking

15 about maybe what some of the unintended

16 consequences may be.

17 So we certainly have our work cut out for

18 us, but it is a wonderful step that we are all in

19 the same room. And maybe we can come up with some

20 guidance as we look at some ways that we can

21 perhaps promote some harmonization among the states

22 as far as the education and the other policies that

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1 really guide how we take care of our patients and

2 treating their pain.

3 But we do know that there's just been an

4 explosion of legislative activity this year, but we

5 do see changes. We know that we are reaching

6 providers, that the number of folks that have taken

7 education has certainly increased. We know that

8 the number of prescriptions have decreased in every

9 state in the country. But I am not sure -- we

10 don't know really what that means and is that going

11 to have an impact on patients outcomes, good and

12 bad.

13 The number of physicians that are certified

14 to provide office space treatment for opioid use

15 disorders is certainly increased, and we see a huge

16 increase in PDMP utilization.

17 We have seen over 1200 bills introduced in

18 2017. It certainly keeps my staff busy trying to

19 monitor and look at these. We have 94 signed into

20 law this year. And what we're seeing, they kind of

21 address certain broad areas, whether that be a

22 mandated query to the PDMP; implementing the lock-

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1 in programs with the Medicaid programs; or

2 requiring registration of pain clinics; increasing

3 access to naloxone and providing immunity to those

4 that administer; and of course mandated CME, which

5 is I think will be a big topic of our meeting today

6 and tomorrow.

7 At the same time that this was going on, the

8 Federation of State Medical Boards over the past

9 15 months have been working on looking at our

10 guidance document for opioid prescribing, and that

11 work was completed in just this past April. We'll

12 be promoting that to the states and hoping that

13 that document can serve as kind of a basis as they

14 do their policy work in this area.

15 We've also seen a lot of activity around the

16 prescription drug monitoring programs with 172

17 bills introduced in 2017; 17 signed into law. I am

18 not going to go through all of these; you can

19 certainly read the slides.

20 Missouri, of course being the last state to

21 not have a state prescription drug monitoring

22 program, that bill was introduced and proceeding,

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1 but it's in conference. And we think it's actually

2 unlikely to pass due to time constraints this year.

3 However, they do have some work at the local level

4 that the state has really taken through cities and

5 counties to have a good number percentage of the

6 state covered.

7 This map demonstrates where we are with the

8 legislative trends. As you see, certain areas of

9 the country kind of mirrors where they have seen

10 the worst problems, and it is interesting kind of

11 as you look at it from a regional basis.

12 Here, this year we have had I think 45 bills

13 introduced that were specific to pain management

14 and mandating CME. Those bills, a few have passed

15 this year. Out of the 45, we have Minnesota, New

16 York, New Jersey, Georgia, and Utah that have

17 actually passed legislation.

18 The state trends here, again, just showing

19 the trends for the prescription drug monitoring

20 programs. As kind of a national perspective, we

21 see as of last month, we had 49 states and the

22 District of Columbia and the territories that have

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1 operational prescription drug monitoring programs.

2 As I mentioned earlier, in Missouri I think about

3 45 percent of all residents are covered due to the

4 work between the counties and the cities to adopt

5 some sort of local programs.

6 We are seeing certainly a trend to have

7 physicians register with their state prescription

8 drug monitoring program, 35 states require some

9 sort of access to the database for certain

10 populations or certain circumstances, and 8 states

11 are actually requiring access to the database prior

12 to each prescribing of a designated substance.

13 This is an area that I think that the state

14 medical boards are looking at as far as whether

15 this is something usually being -- it's from the

16 legislature versus being medical board driven for

17 the most part, and trying to look at is this really

18 an effective means by requiring it in every

19 circumstance or when should it be required.

20 What we see that is actually happening, when

21 boards are seeing a case that comes before them, if

22 the prescription drug monitoring program was

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1 available and they chose not to access it, it can

2 be considered as they evaluate a case. Does it

3 really meet -- even though it is not specific, a

4 specific requirement, it still is becoming part of

5 the standard of care. So it's just a tool in the

6 toolkit for the prescriber to use in taking care of

7 their patients.

8 As far as content-specific requirements, we

9 have 40 states currently that have content-specific

10 CME. Twenty-six of those is specific to pain

11 management, 10 have the CME just in their primary

12 area of practice. There are some that are specific

13 to prescribing and a few with end-of-life care.

14 I think that this is a trend that we'll see

15 continue, and I think this is an area that we can

16 talk about as far as bringing some consistency of

17 the programs. However, a one size fits all may not

18 be the answer when you have different specialties

19 with different needs of different populations of

20 patients that they take care of.

21 This is a slide, and you certainly can't

22 read this, but the federation publishes a biannual

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1 publication on a trends and actions report, and it

2 has a number of tables that really will look like

3 these. It will show every board of the country on

4 a variety about 28 different issues as to what the

5 requirements are.

6 So if you have a question about some of the

7 specific requirements in your state or around the

8 country to get a flavor, that document is available

9 on the federation's website.

10 I'm just going to conclude with that at the

11 last annual meeting of the Federation State Medical

12 Boards, which was last month, we had a resolution

13 brought forward from one of our member states to

14 look at this mandatory use of prescription drug

15 monitoring programs.

16 The resolution did pass, which will require

17 us to look at this issue. We've already

18 established a workgroup that will be studying the

19 use of prescription drug monitoring programs in the

20 United States and looking at if mandatory use has a

21 positive impact on patient outcome and prescribing

22 practices, look at the feasibility of incorporating

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1 the PDMP into electronical medical record systems;

2 looking at how those systems can really be utilized

3 to be in the workflow of the provider, and look at

4 recommendations as how the states may look at

5 mandatory use and whether or not this is something

6 that should be on a select basis or more

7 incorporated into the standard of care versus

8 mandatory based on every prescription.

9 So I encourage you, if you would like to

10 participate or if you would like to provide your

11 comments as this workgroup gets started, we are

12 planning to begin that work this summer and would

13 certainly invite any of your comments and

14 expertise.

15 With that, thank you and happy to have any

16 questions later.

17 (Applause.)

18 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thanks Lisa, very much.

19 Next, we are going to hear from the National

20 Governors Association. Melinda Becker, senior

21 policy analyst health division, Nation Governors

22 Association Center for Best Practices. Welcome.

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1 Presentation – Melinda Becker

2 MS. BECKER: Thank you, and good morning.

3 Again, Melinda Becker. I'm a senior policy analyst

4 with the National Governors Association Center for

5 Best Practices health division, and I'm really glad

6 to be participating today.

7 I'm going to talk about how states are

8 working to enhance education and training for

9 opioid prescribers and other healthcare providers,

10 and how that fits into their broader prevention

11 efforts. I'll give a little bit of background

12 about NGA and how we're supporting governors in

13 addressing the opioid crisis, provide an overview

14 of some key prevention strategies, some of which

15 have been touched on already, and then give a

16 couple of state examples where there are continuing

17 education requirements for opioid prescribers and

18 other providers.

19 The National Governors Association is the

20 nation's oldest organization serving the needs of

21 governors and their staff. This is a picture of

22 the 1908 Conference of Governors, sort of a

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1 precursor to NGA's annual meetings where governors

2 came to Washington for the first time to meet with

3 then President Teddy Roosevelt.

4 The organization is divided into two main

5 parts, the Office of Government Relations, which

6 serves as the voice of the nation's governors in

7 Washington, and the Center for Best Practices,

8 where I sit, which you can think of as a cross

9 between a think-tank and a consultancy for

10 governors and their staff.

11 NGAs opioid work is a partnership between

12 our health division and our homeland security and

13 public safety division, and it's made possible by

14 the support of the Centers for Disease Control and

15 Prevention. So I want to just recognize CDC for

16 their partnership.

17 To underscore why NGA has been so active in

18 this space over the last several years, you'll see

19 on the next slide a map of age-adjusted death rates

20 between 1999 and 2014. And Dr. Throckmorton showed

21 us some of this earlier, but we've got a time-

22 lapse.

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1 Again, you can see as you are moving from

2 the purples, blues, and greens, the problem is

3 getting worse as you go to that yellow, orange, and

4 red where there are higher rates across the

5 country. Since 1999, the number of overdose death

6 rates have quadrupled nationally, driven by an

7 increase in overdose deaths related to prescription

8 opioids. According to CDC, 91 people die every day

9 of an opioid-related overdose. That's one person

10 every 15 minutes, and more than a thousand people

11 will visit the emergency room today for an

12 overdose.

13 In addition to the human toll, the epidemic

14 is putting pressure on state Medicaid budgets,

15 social services, and public safety, and it is

16 something the governors are hearing about from

17 their residents and reading about virtually every

18 day in their local newspapers.

19 This is a timeline of how NGA has been

20 involved over the last several years, in supporting

21 governors on this issue. Our work began in 2012,

22 with the first of two policy academies focused on

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1 prescription drug abuse where we helped a number of

2 states develop and implement strategic action plans

3 to address that problem.

4 Fast-forward to 2016, to the NGA winter

5 meeting where governors expressed frustration

6 regarding the pace of change and the number of

7 opioid prescriptions written really recognizing

8 that prescribing practices have been a key factor

9 in driving this crisis.

10 That call to action from the governors lead

11 to the NGA compact to fight opioid addiction. This

12 was signed last summer by 46 governors, who

13 committed to re-doubling their efforts in three

14 areas by reducing inappropriate opioid prescribing,

15 changing the nation's understanding of opioids and

16 addiction, and ensuring pathways to treatment and

17 recovery.

18 Also, in July of last year, after extensive

19 research and consultation with states and other

20 national experts, the NGA center released a road

21 map to help states assess the problem and their

22 capacity to address it, select evidence based on

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1 promising strategies both healthcare and public

2 safety, and evaluate the strategies that they're

3 putting into place.

4 In developing the road map, we took time to

5 assess the factors that are driving the

6 prescription opioid and heroin epidemic to help

7 states more effectively target their strategies.

8 One of the three key factors identified is the

9 wider availability of prescription opioids, as well

10 as the lack of access to treatment for opioid use

11 disorder and the changing economics and supply of

12 illicit opioids like heroin and illicit fentanyl.

13 From that research, we developed a policy

14 framework that integrates healthcare and public

15 safety strategies along this continuum from

16 prevention, through treatment, and recovery. And

17 it's from this comprehensive framework that we have

18 identified specific healthcare and public safety

19 strategies for prevention and response that states

20 could consider to address the problem.

21 I'm going to skip this slide for now.

22 This slide lays out the best and promising

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1 healthcare strategies for prevention and early

2 identification that we highlighted for states in

3 our road map. One of the most prominent is

4 developing and updating guidelines for all opioid

5 prescribers.

6 To give some examples, Washington is one of

7 the states that's really led the way on prescribing

8 guidelines. Their guidelines along with other

9 state efforts importantly have contributed to a

10 40 percent decline in prescription opioid-related

11 deaths between 2008 and 2014. More recently, last

12 summer Wisconsin passed legislation authorizing the

13 State Medical Board to issue a guideline through

14 regulation.

15 We have also seen states increasingly adopt

16 new limits on first-time opioid prescriptions for

17 acute pain with exceptions for certain patients.

18 Over the last year, a number of states have really

19 followed Massachusetts' lead in passing statutory

20 limits. And most recently, Governor Bevin in

21 Kentucky signed a bill that limits first-time

22 opioid prescriptions to three days with certain

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1 exceptions. I think that's the most stringent

2 statutory limit we've seen to date.

3 Finally, the last of these strategies that

4 I'll highlight, given the relevance to today's

5 discussion, is enhancing education and training for

6 healthcare providers through changes to curriculum

7 and continuing education requirements.

8 In a first-in-the-nation effort, Governor

9 Baker in Massachusetts, the Massachusetts Medical

10 Society, and the Deans of the Commonwealths for

11 Medical Schools partnered to establish core

12 competencies for the prevention and management of

13 prescription drug misuse, and a similar effort has

14 been undertaken with the states dental schools, and

15 nursing, and PA programs. Governor Bevin in

16 Kentucky is also engaging medical and dental

17 schools in a similar way to strengthen education

18 for students and residents.

19 With regard to continuing education, I think

20 prior to 2012, only seven states had required some

21 or all physicians to obtain training in pain

22 management or controlled substances prescribing.

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1 As we heard from Lisa, that number has changed

2 quite a bit over the last several years. And of

3 course there are variations in the types of

4 providers that are required to receive that

5 training, the duration and frequency, and the

6 topics covered.

7 Just to give a couple of examples of

8 continuing education requirements in the states, in

9 2012, Kentucky passed a bill that focuses on the

10 regulation of pain clinics, as well as a host of

11 other issues related to prescription drug abuse in

12 the state. The legislation mandated that state

13 licensing boards issue regulations and a host of

14 issues related to prescribing of controlled

15 substances including continuing education related

16 to pain management, addiction disorders, and the

17 use of the states PDMP Kasper.

18 Physicians in Kentucky are required to

19 complete 4 and a half hours of CME every three

20 years, and there are similar requirements for nurse

21 practitioners and dentists. Kentucky actually

22 implemented that piece of the law with a grant from

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1 one our first policy academies that helped them

2 develop the trainings with a company called UK

3 Healthcare CE Central. And now with the help of a

4 CDC grant, they are updating those trainings and

5 developing separate modules for the different types

6 of providers.

7 In New Jersey, just recently in February,

8 Governor Christie signed legislation to curb the

9 opioid epidemic, which includes a continuing

10 education requirement for certain healthcare

11 providers, both opioid prescribers and others.

12 Healthcare professionals with authority to

13 prescribe opioids are required to complete one

14 continuing education credit on topics, including

15 responsible prescribing practices, alternatives to

16 opioids, and the risks and signs of opioid abuse,

17 addiction, and diversion.

18 Healthcare professionals that don't have

19 prescribing authority but who frequently interact

20 with patients who may be prescribed opioids, like

21 pharmacists and nurses, are now required to

22 complete one continuing education credit on topics

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1 that include alternatives to opioids for pain

2 management and identifying the signs and risks of

3 abuse and diversion.

4 I have outlined some of the steps that

5 states are taking with respect to prevention and

6 education and training for healthcare providers,

7 but I also want to highlight a recommendation that

8 governors made last year to Congress regarding the

9 federal role in this effort.

10 The recommendation issued through NGA called

11 on Congress to require opioid prescribers to

12 receive high-quality continuing education on pain

13 management and safe opioid prescribing as a

14 condition of DEA licensure, so very relevant to

15 today's discussion.

16 With that, I will close and happy to take

17 questions later. Thank you.

18 (Applause.)

19 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thanks Melinda, very

20 much.

21 Joanna Katzman is next. She comes from New

22 Mexico. She is at the University of New Mexico,

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1 associate professor, director of UNM Pain and

2 Project Extension for Community Healthcare Outcomes

3 Pain and Opioid Management. Thank you, welcome.

4 Presentation – Joanna Katzman

5 DR. KATZMAN: Thank you all for having me

6 speak here today. I was able to come last year and

7 speak to the FDA related to the long-acting REMS

8 issue.

9 I am going to tell you a little bit -- I'm

10 going to kind of dive deep into the experience that

11 New Mexico has had into the continuing medical

12 education experience regarding pain and safe opioid

13 prescribing.

14 I have no conflicts of interest to disclose,

15 and what I first am going to talk to you about is

16 the background of New Mexico. We're a unique

17 state, we are the fifth largest state, but we are

18 fairly low in population. We're fairly

19 impoverished. We're populated by a large degree of

20 Hispanics and American Indians, and we've had a

21 heroin addiction issue for a number of generations.

22 Then I'm going to talk to you about the

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1 mandated pain and addiction training that has been

2 going on in New Mexico since 2012. I am going to

3 talk to you about how that jump-drived the Indian

4 Health Service clinician mandated pain and

5 addiction training in 2015, and then a little bit

6 about my starting project ECHO Pain and Opioid Safe

7 Management for clinicians around the country in

8 2008, and how clinicians in New Mexico can actually

9 get their mandated pain and safe opioid training

10 through project ECHO. And then finally, I'll just

11 close with some summary points.

12 Historically, New Mexico has really had one

13 of the highest rates of opioid deaths in the

14 country. We've really not been new to this.

15 Unfortunately, we've really lead the country in

16 unintentionally opiate deaths due to prescription

17 opiates and heroin. As you know, northern New

18 Mexico has really had a heroin problem for many,

19 many decades. For the past decade, decade in a

20 half, we really have been number 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5

21 in the country for unintentional prescription

22 opiate overdose deaths.

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1 In 2015, we had a marked reduction in where

2 we stand in the country. We dropped from number 2

3 in the country to number 8, which was an 11 percent

4 reduction from 2014. I think it's because of

5 probably a three-pronged approach. We really take

6 ourselves seriously. We have tremendous key

7 stakeholders in the state. The University of New

8 Mexico, our Pain Center, our Addiction Center, our

9 Department of Health, the U.S. Attorney's Office,

10 we all come together on a monthly basis and talk

11 about these issues.

12 We have tremendous naloxone programs,

13 required PDMP, and our mandatory continuing medical

14 education. The diversity, as I told you, is

15 Hispanic, American Indian. As you know, New Mexico

16 is significant with 29 pueblos. A large part of

17 the Navajo Nation resides in the territory of New

18 Mexico. And as you know, the American Indian

19 population has a very high-rate of non-medical use

20 and misuse of opiates.

21 Many deaths as you know are combined with

22 alcohol and other illicit drugs, such as cocaine

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1 and methamphetamine, and in 2014 many of our deaths

2 in New Mexico -- 111, to be specific -- were

3 related to methamphetamine.

4 New Mexico in 2012 was one of the first

5 states in the country that had mandatory continuing

6 medical education, and I am going to go into detail

7 in that in a minute. As you can see, in 2011, we

8 had 521 deaths in the state. Again, we're a very

9 small state. We're growing in population every

10 year. But as soon as we had mandatory continuing

11 medical education, our numbers dropped.

12 It was a little bit of a aberrancy in 2014

13 when our rates went up. Again, 111 of those deaths

14 were related to methamphetamine. Again, we're not

15 the number 1 state in the country for

16 methamphetamine substance-use disorder, but we have

17 a huge problem with methamphetamine-related

18 overdose deaths. You can say that we really are a

19 state of Breaking Bad.

20 Again, I am now the third person who is

21 showing these slides from the CDC. We continue

22 over the last decade to increase the number of drug

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1 overdose deaths related to opioids in the country

2 with men increasing their deaths more than women,

3 and increasing more than prescription opioids

4 probably because of ease of access, physicians

5 restricting their writing of prescription opioids,

6 and also accessibility, really seeing an increase

7 in heroin-related overdose deaths. And we're not

8 alone here in New Mexico that we are also seeing an

9 increase in deaths related to heroin.

10 So what did we do in New Mexico? Well, a

11 group of many key stakeholders had been meeting in

12 2010 and 2011, and Melinda from the National

13 Governors Association did come down -- the NGA did

14 come down in 2012 to meet with the governor at that

15 time, as we were one of the leading states with

16 unintentional opiate overdose deaths.

17 But Senate Bill 215 did pass unanimously in

18 the House and the Senate that year, and Senate

19 Bill 215 mandated that every clinical licensing

20 board in the state promulgate rules to mandate a

21 continuing medical education specific to pain and

22 safe opioid prescribing, but the key word here was

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1 pain.

2 The other part of the bill was that a

3 council would be developed for key stakeholders to

4 meet on a regular basis, and that still is going

5 on. That council meets approximately every six

6 weeks year round to talk about unintentional opiate

7 overdose deaths, the epidemic of pain and addiction

8 in the state, as well as a best practices pain

9 management.

10 What happened is the New Mexico Medical

11 Board was the first board in the state to really

12 come online and say we really need to do something

13 quickly. The governor had signed the bill in April

14 of 2012. And by August of 2012, the New Mexico

15 Medical Boards said we need to realize that this is

16 no different -- this epidemic of unintentional

17 opioid deaths is no different than hantavirus, than

18 a bioterrorism threat, than a drug resistance to an

19 antibiotic, and we need to have all of our

20 physicians, all of our PAs take 5 hours of CME in

21 the next 18 months, all of our physicians and all

22 of our PAs, because that's who sits under the New

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1 Mexico medical board.

2 What happened within the next three months

3 is that every other clinical licensing board; the

4 New Mexico Board of Pharmacy, because clinical

5 pharmacists have authority to prescribe a

6 controlled substance, the New Mexico Dental Board,

7 Board of Nursing, all the boards that have any

8 clinicians who can write a controlled substance all

9 said we will all do the same thing. We will all

10 synchronize with you, and we will have all of our

11 clinicians take 5 hours of CME related to pain and

12 safe opiate prescribing within 18 months. So

13 that's what happened.

14 The 5 hours were prescribed, and I'll show

15 you what those 5 hours was about. This is a

16 brochure of the UNM Pain Center, which I am a part

17 of along with our key faculty from the New Mexico

18 VA healthcare system. Our addiction center

19 performed many of these trainings to over 5,000

20 clinicians around the state. In New Mexico, many

21 live trainings in New Mexico, these were 5-hour

22 trainings in Farmington, Las Cruces, Santa Fe.

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1 We did this over a course of two years, and

2 we asked these clinicians if they want to

3 participate in research. Ninety-nine percent of

4 these clinicians participated in institutional

5 review board research looking at pre-post changes

6 in knowledge, self-efficacy, and attitudes, and I

7 will show you these results momentarily.

8 The topics of these courses were mandated by

9 the New Mexico Medical Board. So not only did our

10 UNM Pain Center have these topics, but the New

11 Mexico Medical Society, the Greater Albuquerque

12 Medical Association, and all over the state had the

13 same topics.

14 We wanted to educate the clinicians about

15 the epidemic of pain and opiate overdose statewide

16 and nationally. We wanted to teach clinicians

17 predominantly about the use of non-opioid

18 analgesics because we realized that that's what

19 they needed. They needed better tools in their

20 toolbox, not just to be prescribing opioid

21 analgesics.

22 We wanted clinicians to understand screening

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1 tools and screening practices to be able to

2 identify who might be a patient, who could be at

3 risk if prescribed opioid analgesics, and if they

4 had chronic pain, how best to take care of them if

5 they needed to be placed on opiate analgesics.

6 We had a section on pediatric and adolescent

7 pain. We wanted to be able to teach about federal

8 and state laws pertaining to controlled substances

9 and teach clinicians about prescription drug

10 monitoring programs. This is a perfect way to

11 teach clinicians how to use the PDMP.

12 Finally, a big part of it was teaching

13 clinicians about naloxone, about antidotes, about

14 medication-assisted treatment. Of course not a

15 full buprenorphine training, but also about the

16 importance of co-prescribing naloxone, especially

17 to your high-risk patients.

18 Ninety-nine percent of these clinicians

19 opted in for our research. They took knowledge

20 questions, self-efficacy questions, attitude

21 questions before and after the course. It was on a

22 voluntary basis. We published this. We studied

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1 this just on our first 1,075 patients. Half of

2 them were physicians, half were mid-level provides,

3 and pharmacists and dentists. What we saw was a

4 very significant change in knowledge, self-

5 efficacy, and attitudes.

6 This is probably too small for you, but we

7 also work very closely with the New Mexico Board of

8 Pharmacy who works closely with the Drug

9 Enforcement Agency, and we did not see an

10 associated change in the number of opiate

11 prescriptions filled as a result of these courses

12 or as an association time wise with the result of

13 these courses, and we were glad about that.

14 New Mexico's an extremely rural state, and

15 except for three cities, the population of most

16 cities is very small. Many of our clinicians are

17 nurse practitioners, PAs who work in solo

18 practices, and we did not want to cause a chilling

19 effect and have clinicians say I'm not going to

20 prescribe, I'm not going to renew my board of

21 pharmacy or DEA license.

22 So we were glad that we did not see a change

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1 in opiate prescriptions, but what we did see is a

2 significant drop in morphine milligram equivalence,

3 and we did see a significant drop in valium

4 milligram equivalence, which is the way to see a

5 significant drop in benzodiazepine prescribing.

6 Had I known now, I would have looked at

7 co-prescribing, but I would do that -- maybe I will

8 go look at that right now.

9 (Laughter.)

10 DR. KATZMAN: Being in New Mexico, we do a

11 lot of work with the Indian Health Service. The

12 Indian Health Service Telebehavioral Center of

13 Excellence is located a mile away from where I work

14 at UNM. We have an MOU with them. I started

15 project ECHO, a telementoring program with the

16 Indian Health Service clinicians nationwide where a

17 group of us, myself, and internist who specializes

18 in pain, and an addictions psychiatrist, teach

19 clinicians every week who come on an Adobe Connect-

20 like network. This started in 2013.

21 In 2015, Susan Karol, the then CMO for the

22 Indian Health Service in the central office here in

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1 Rockville, said, you know what, we really want to

2 have mandated training like you did in New Mexico.

3 So we pretty much replicated our New Mexico

4 trainings, but we did this virtually via video

5 conferencing technology.

6 Dr. Karol and the Indian Health Service,

7 what we've done with about 12 BTC trainings, we've

8 trained almost 3,000 clinicians -- about 5,000

9 clinicians have come on the network, but 3,000 of

10 them have been IHS specific clinicians.

11 We've provided over 10,000 no-cost CMEs for

12 these Indian Health Service clinicians. We've also

13 studied them through institutional review board.

14 We published this. We've seen the same data, and

15 the IHS is now looking at pharmacy data as we

16 speak. The clinicians from the IHS came from 28

17 states primarily from Arizona, New Mexico,

18 Minnesota, and Oklahoma.

19 Since I'm from UNM and project ECHO -- and

20 project ECHO now, it's a telementoring program,

21 it's a clinician-to-clinician educational program.

22 I think it's very relevant for today and tomorrow's

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1 discussion in that it's clinicians teaching other

2 clinicians how to take care of their patients more

3 effectively.

4 We offered this training at Project ECHO.

5 We offered clinicians in New Mexico who need

6 mandated pain and addiction CME hours. They are

7 able to get their hours through our project ECHO

8 training. Through our Project ECHO pain and safe

9 opiate management -- here are the topics -- we

10 offer these five 1-hour trainings. We offer it

11 three or four times per year. We've given this

12 training to the Army, to the Navy, as they have

13 replicated their Army and Navy pain ECHO as well,

14 and we've helped the VA also replicate their pain

15 ECHO through Project ECHO.

16 What I would like to tell you is that we are

17 excited because in March of 2016, New Mexico passed

18 this naloxone standing-order, which I think also

19 helped reduce the rates of overdose in the state.

20 Then, just three weeks ago, the state passed really

21 cutting-edge legislation that I was fortunate

22 enough to help craft in that naloxone is now

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1 required for all law enforcement, for all patients

2 in every medication-assisted treatment facility, to

3 have two doses of take-home naloxone, overdose

4 education, and a prescription. And for every

5 inmate who is released from a correctional facility

6 to be given two doses of take-home naloxone, a

7 prescription, and overdose education.

8 So I think that the combination of

9 continuing medical education, wide distribution of

10 naloxone, as well as law enforcement being mandated

11 to carry it, in addition to PDMP being mandated, I

12 think that New Mexico is going to really reduce our

13 numbers even more. Thank you.

14 (Applause.)

15 Questions and Answers

16 DR. THROCKMORTON: All right. We have a few

17 minutes for questions and discussion if people want

18 to come to the microphones and ask questions.

19 While people are collecting their thoughts, I am

20 going to ask a question to Melinda and Joanna.

21 Both of your organizations have made some

22 fairly aggressive recommendations or put into place

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1 some fairly aggressive things in terms of

2 requirements for education. I'm just curious how

3 that's been received by your respective

4 communities, and is it well received, have you

5 gotten a lot of push-back, and have people seen the

6 value.

7 MS. BECKER: I'll just say quickly, the

8 strategies that we highlight, including requiring

9 education and training for prescribers are really

10 just us helping to lift up what we see as best in

11 promising practices for states, rather than real

12 recommendations, if you will.

13 I think generally states have gotten a lot

14 of great feedback on the road map itself as a tool,

15 and I think states are looking at all of these

16 strategies as sort of part of their comprehensive

17 work.

18 Related to the recommendation that came out

19 of the Office of Federal Relations last year, I

20 have to be honest. I don't think -- I know it's

21 something that the previous administration had been

22 generally supportive of, and it's not something

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1 that we've heard a lot from our membership about.

2 DR. KATZMAN: What I can tell you is, New

3 Mexico, we've had very little push-back. We've had

4 maybe one or two clinicians at each course

5 say -- come up to one of the faculty and personally

6 saying why am I needing to take this. I'm a

7 radiologist or a pathologist. I don't see

8 patients. And we explained that it's really

9 important that everybody takes these.

10 I did not mention this, but no clinician, no

11 physician is excluded in the entire state. If

12 you're a pain practitioner or you're a pathologist,

13 you have to take the training. So nobody is

14 excluded. And I would say there has been very

15 little push-back and very little chilling effect.

16 Thanks, Doug.

17 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thanks. Go to the

18 microphone here, and please identify yourself when

19 you speak.

20 MS. CHAMBERS: My name is Jan Chambers. I'm

21 the president of the National Fibromyalgia and

22 Chronic Pain Association. I'm really happy to hear

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1 of the progress and see all of the impact that we

2 are having on safe prescribing. I know that there

3 needs to be a lot more to make sure that all

4 treatments for pain management need to be addressed

5 to advance.

6 But I have not heard one comment about the

7 feedback that you are receiving on the impact on

8 patient's pain or on their function. When we look

9 at this and we are assessing the opioid use or the

10 overdoses and things, that's one measurement. And

11 I'm wondering, are there measurements that you have

12 in place, and what are they?

13 DR. KATZMAN: Thank you Jan. This is

14 Joanna. Absolutely. So that's primarily what we

15 discuss in these courses, is when we talk about

16 screening for addiction, we teach the clinicians

17 about screening tools and how to screen patients.

18 When we talk about pain management and non-

19 opioid medications, we discuss that. When we talk

20 about how to assess a patient for their pain, we

21 talk about functional outcomes and not just a scale

22 of 0 to 10 and what makes a patient -- how do you

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1 assess improvement. So we give the tools. Thank

2 you.

3 DR. THROCKMORTON: Over here?

4 DR. KAHN: Norman Kahn, convener of the

5 Conjoint Committee on Continuing Education. My

6 question is for Dr. Katzman also.

7 Joanna, I've heard you present before, and

8 I'm confused by the relationship between some of

9 the data that you showed and some of your

10 conclusions.

11 You showed a slide with eight successive

12 years and numbers of opioid deaths and concluded

13 that they had gone down. But in reality, as I

14 looked at that slide, they went down for three

15 years and then they went up-and-down for three

16 years, and then they went back up. So there's like

17 three-year cycles where they go up-and-down.

18 Then, there was a slide on morphine

19 milliequivalents and talked about a significant

20 reduction. On the other hand, the year at the

21 bottom was higher than the second year at the top.

22 So I'm confused by the conclusions and how

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1 they relate to the data.

2 DR. THROCKMORTON: I might suggest maybe

3 that you guys discuss that at the break or

4 something, rather than -- would that be all right?

5 Unless you have a slide in mind that we can go back

6 to quickly. I am just mindful of time.

7 DR. KAHN: Doug, I am happy to do that. The

8 reason that I bring it up is that we are all going

9 to be talking about mandatory continuing education.

10 And if we draw conclusions that mandatory

11 continuing education works, then we need to have

12 data that reveals that it works, and the data did

13 not reveal that it worked in that particular case.

14 I think that is something that we need to hear

15 about.

16 DR. THROCKMORTON: Couldn't agree with your

17 first statement more.

18 Let's go over here.

19 DR. BERGER: Yes. My name is Tom Berger. I

20 am executive director of the Veterans Health

21 Counsel for Vietnam Veterans of America, and I

22 would like to address the following question to my

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1 colleague from New Mexico.

2 First of all, we are the only veteran

3 service organization that has chapters behind the

4 walls in prisons throughout the country. But my

5 question is, under the legislation passed last

6 month, the last item, take-home naloxone, are they

7 also required, those inmates who are being

8 released, required to attend recovery meetings?

9 DR. KATZMAN: As part as Senate Bill

10 370 -- that's not part of Senate Bill 370, but I

11 don't know the terms of certain inmate's probation.

12 So I don't think I can answer that sufficiently.

13 DR. BERGER: Thank you.

14 DR. THROCKMORTON: Over here?

15 MS. COWAN: Penny Cowan, American Chronic

16 Pain Association. And I'm just wondering, I've

17 heard a lot about pain management education, and I

18 don't know what that means. There are so many

19 components to pain management. And what we're

20 hearing a lot, at least at our office, is that

21 people are being actually abandoned right now

22 because the providers aren't willing to prescribe

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1 opioids for them, but they're not giving them

2 anything else.

3 I'm wondering, are you teaching these

4 practitioners all the other pain management

5 components that are really necessary for a person

6 to live a full life in spite of their pain? It's

7 possible, but we have to teach them. We can't just

8 tell them. And I'm wondering, are you teaching

9 them those skills as well? That's really

10 important.

11 DR. THROCKMORTON: Actually I think that's

12 probably for all of you to comment on that.

13 MS. ROBIN: Well, from the medical boards'

14 point of view, I really appreciate it. I think

15 that there is certainly a paucity of real good data

16 to show that the CME and the one size fits all, CME

17 works, and you know what the outcomes are. And

18 I've had a number of talks with colleagues around

19 the country at medical boards that really would

20 like to figure out if we can do some really good

21 research around that and look at can we really tie

22 it to patient outcomes.

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1 I can just speak to -- I know our recent

2 policy work in this area, a big focus of it was

3 really on the patient and taking care of the

4 patient, the whole patient, and the responsibility

5 of the prescriber to understand it is taking care

6 of the whole patient, and that they need to look at

7 all of these different modalities.

8 As medical boards, they're not specific as

9 far as putting on the curriculum on particular

10 programs, but more that it's the responsibility of

11 good medical practice to be able to familiarize

12 yourself and have the knowledge to treat the

13 patient. With various modalities and looking at

14 outcome and function, as you mentioned earlier,

15 that that really is the primary focus of what the

16 prescriber should be looking at, would be that

17 function and patient outcome, not just one

18 modality.

19 DR. THROCKMORTON: We're going to go over

20 here, and I think we'll just end with these two

21 here.

22 DR. GREENBLATT: Thank you. I'm Larry

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1 Greenblatt, and I am a general internist at Duke

2 and leading an opioid safety effort there. In my

3 state, which reflects what's happening across the

4 nation, we are seeing a slight uptake in

5 prescription opioid overdose deaths, which we

6 certainly are very concerned about.

7 But we're seeing a sharp rise, like the rest

8 of the country, in heroin and fentanyl and fentanyl

9 analog deaths. And those numbers are shooting up

10 at 30 to 50 percent per year. And now when you add

11 up the illicit drug overdose deaths, they have far

12 surpassed prescription drug overdose deaths.

13 I'm wondering, are any of you looking at any

14 strategies for reducing the numbers of people that

15 end up on illicit drugs? I don't think I fully

16 understand why is it that some people end up

17 switching over and some don't, but shouldn't there

18 be some sort of systematic effort at preventing

19 that problem in addition to offering treatment in

20 naloxone rescue kits?

21 DR. THROCKMORTON: With the focus on

22 education, I guess I'm hearing an interest in

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1 educating prescribers about that potential

2 transition also?

3 DR. GREENBLATT: Strategies for preventing

4 individuals from starting on illicit drugs. Do we

5 have any, and are we teaching that?

6 DR. THROCKMORTON: I'm looking around. I

7 think that's a challenging transition. I think

8 there's a lot we don't understand, hard to know

9 what to say other than we do know that it occurs

10 sometimes.

11 I don't know if any of you have comments on

12 that.

13 MS. BECKER: Yeah. I'll just say at the

14 National Governors Association, we've been very

15 focused on this issue of illicit opioids. And

16 really our work with states and the various

17 learning labs we've done over the past nine months

18 or so has really focused on expanding access to

19 treatment and improving screening and referral and

20 making those linkages to treatment where possible.

21 It is something we've been trying to wrap our heads

22 around as well.

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1 DR. THROCKMORTON: The point is a good one

2 though. Prevention is obviously what we're all

3 trying to do. But when someone is later on in

4 addiction, it's very hard.

5 Go here please.

6 MS. KEAR: Cynthia Kear. I'm with CO*RE.

7 CO*RE is an 11-partner organization that represents

8 over 700,000 prescribing clinicians, not including

9 our online partner Medscape. We've been doing this

10 for a while, since two thousand -- well actually

11 before that, actually 10, but anyway -- and we've

12 had a lot of activities.

13 My comments are largely geared -- and they

14 are comments for Lisa and Melinda. It seems to me

15 as we go out and try to leverage our education to

16 tie it in with state requirements or state

17 opportunities, that there is so variance, whether

18 it is in the actual topic, end-of-life, pain,

19 opioids, or whether it is by prescriber type or by

20 credit, unit, amount, et cetera.

21 It would be so wonderful if we could have

22 much more of a focused coordinated effort there,

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1 appreciating that there are differences, but

2 nonetheless trying to leverage some of the basic

3 standardization of the education so that we can

4 make these links more tightly. And also, while

5 this remains voluntary educational activity for

6 clinicians, I think really appeal to them and bring

7 in more number of those actual prescribers.

8 The other point that I'd just comment is,

9 Lisa, it would be so interesting if we could also

10 have your data that would include PAs and NPs as

11 well. So I don't know if that's possible for the

12 future. But anyway, as I said, it's more a comment

13 than a question, but I think a really compelling

14 effort that would help everybody in this.

15 Thank you all for your comments.

16 MS. ROBIN: I would just like to comment, I

17 think that that is -- exactly. If we can come to

18 some standardization around that, it would be a

19 resource that we could provide. As you know, we

20 have through our foundation a couple of years ago

21 provided block grants to state boards to put on

22 trainings, and it was very positively received.

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1 I would love to see things like that where

2 we could do resources for medical boards to be

3 able -- and I think that that might be the link

4 through your medical and nursing boards, because

5 then you're really reaching all the prescribers

6 because they would fall -- well, and you've got

7 dentistry as well. But you are going to reach the

8 most of the prescribers through those two boards.

9 And the good thing about that is they reach

10 everybody.

11 So some basic courses. And I think they

12 have to be fairly basic. If we could decide on

13 what is this level, then we would need everybody to

14 know, and that that's a good -- it's a great forum

15 to reach everybody and that they can do that with a

16 nudge. Because most people do look at their

17 license and look at things that come from their

18 licensing board because they hold their livelihood

19 in their hands.

20 I think if that's something -- but I would

21 just encourage us to look at something. If we

22 could come up with a basic foundation, and then

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1 there's other add-ons, obviously. But if we really

2 could all come to an agreement on a basic

3 foundation of education that you want every

4 prescriber to be familiar with -- and that that's

5 throughout the country. I think that could be well

6 received among the regulators because, as I said,

7 they don't necessarily have the resources to be

8 developing programs themselves.

9 DR. THROCKMORTON: Lisa, real quick follow-

10 up question. We've talked a lot about the trends

11 in medical boards requiring and prescriber

12 education. What about healthcare providers, non-

13 prescribers? What are the trends there?

14 MS. ROBIN: We believe that -- you look at

15 how healthcare is delivered, it is a team effort

16 now. We are taking care of patients as a whole

17 team of providers, and that it should not be just

18 limited to the prescriber because the other members

19 of the team have a huge role in that. That's why I

20 say if you have a basic level of a foundation,

21 education, pull all the members of the healthcare

22 team into offering the education. I don't think

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1 that you can just gauge success on the actual

2 prescriber.

3 DR. THROCKMORTON: Yes. I was asking you,

4 and I guess Melinda also, is actually are there

5 trends legislatively, trends in expanded

6 requirement for training, or formal training for

7 those groups too? I think we all agree with the

8 team approach.

9 MS. ROBIN: I have not seen that necessarily

10 in the mandates. And I will just say as far as the

11 mandates, I find that oftentimes some of the

12 mandates and legislation doesn't necessarily

13 involve the regulators that actually do it, the

14 boards of nursing, the boards of medicine. It's

15 more coming from the legislature or the governors'

16 offices. So I think in some states there's not

17 involvement, which is unfortunate. Maybe if we had

18 more involvement, then we could come up with better

19 policy.

20 DR. THROCKMORTON: Melinda, if you had

21 anything else.

22 MS. BECKER: Yeah, it's not something that

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1 we track, but as I mentioned, New Jersey, which I

2 think has one of the newer requirements, there's a

3 component for non-prescribers, practitioners who

4 are involved in the care of patients who are being

5 treated with opioids.

6 DR. THROCKMORTON: Great, thanks.

7 One last question.

8 DR. MILIO: Lorraine Milio. I'm

9 representing the Society for Maternal Fetal

10 Medicine. One of my concerns is that a lot of the

11 required CMEs are not addressing issues of

12 pregnancy and prescribing opioids in pregnancy.

13 And this is a major problem because a lot of

14 chronic pain clinics discharge patients when they

15 are pregnant, and obstetricians are not comfortable

16 doing the pain management, so patients conceal

17 their pregnancy, together with the fact that opioid

18 misuse disorder is becoming a leading cause of

19 maternal mortality in multiple states.

20 I just wanted to ask if that should be under

21 consideration when we are looking at providing

22 physician education on the subject?

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1 DR. THROCKMORTON: Claudia, remind me. I

2 believe that's in the draft blueprint.

3 DR. MANZO: I don't know exactly how much we

4 get into special populations in the actual

5 blueprint, but I think those are good comments, and

6 we welcome you to submit those to the actual

7 docket, blueprint docket.

8 DR. THROCKMORTON: Agreed, something we've

9 worked on a lot I know.

10 Thank you very much. We are going to have a

11 break now. I have 10:22, so let's come back at

12 10:32. Thank you very much.

13 (Whereupon, at 10:22 a.m., a recess was

14 taken.)

15 DR. THROCKMORTON: While people are taking

16 their seats, I'm going to start the next session.

17 Before lunch, we have two speakers. The first

18 speaker is Doris Auth, who's in the FDA and in the

19 Office of Surveillance and Epidemiology. She's the

20 associate director there, and she's going to be

21 talking about the REMS, options and considerations.

22 We're starting with Fred Brason. My

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1 apologies. I'm jumping the session here.

2 I think as many of you know -- Project

3 Lazarus obviously has been engaged in this effort

4 for many years, and I'm going to sit down before I

5 say something else I shouldn't.

6 (Laughter.)

7 DR. THROCKMORTON: Fred, thank you.

8 Presentation – Fred Brason

9 MR. BRASON: Thank you, Dr. Throckmorton,

10 and thank you FDA for the opportunity. And I

11 really appreciate the comprehensive nature of what

12 you're looking at over these two days regarding

13 prescriber education and addressing the issue that

14 we all find very personal in our lives and in the

15 lives of our community.

16 As you can see, Project Lazarus began as a

17 community-based, non-profit addressing the issue of

18 prescription opioid medications. And we did that

19 with the premise of wanting to obviously prevent

20 the overdose deaths, but at the same time present

21 safe and responsible pain management because we do

22 have people with pain, and we didn't want to move

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1 them out of the availability and accessibility of

2 treatment. But at the same time, we wanted to make

3 sure that we promote and establish and implement

4 effective substance misuse treatment and support

5 services.

6 We have done that in many, many communities

7 now, utilizing this model so that we were

8 addressing prescriber education -- yes, which is

9 what we are talking about today -- the ED policies;

10 diversion control, because that's where most of

11 what unfortunately is creating havoc -- it's not

12 from the original prescription it's how it's passed

13 on to somebody else -- making sure that the person

14 with pain has appropriate support and the

15 modalities of treatment are available, accessible,

16 and paid for; harm reduction with naloxone, that

17 you've already heard somewhat about; addiction

18 treatment to ensure that all modalities are

19 available in our communities; and of course

20 community education going forward.

21 I will state I have no personal conflicts

22 regarding this. As a corporation, Project Lazarus,

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1 we've had a charitable contribution from KemPharm,

2 and we are currently involved in a project for

3 medication disposal throughout the state of North

4 Carolina with Purdue Pharma; other than that,

5 nothing to disclose.

6 But as we began the approach in our own

7 community, we initially looked at how do we reach

8 our prescribers to gain not only their access, but

9 to gain their attention to the issue and the

10 problem at hand. And we found that if we could do

11 that locally, we got more of their attention, we

12 got more of their buy-in, and we got more of their

13 energy to do what needed to be done to bring about

14 change and best practice with what they were doing

15 in prescribing every day so that they weren't

16 opting out, so that they were continuing to

17 prescribe, but make sure that the right elements

18 were there.

19 We found that not only in our own community,

20 but through a health director's survey throughout

21 the entire state, it was the lunch-and-learns, it

22 was that community based level engagement that

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1 brought about most of the changes; not the global

2 CMEs, not all of the other ways that it can be

3 done, but that one-on-one or practice-to-practice

4 within the local community.

5 We found that through that, there has been

6 some comfort and the continuation of treating

7 chronic pain. And as you can see here, it feels

8 like now there's a guideline explaining all what

9 needs to be done, and the prescriber felt covered

10 by following the guidelines. And of course, we

11 have various guidelines today, some across the

12 nation; different states saying this, different

13 organizations saying this. And of course, we have

14 to come with something that's more uniform.

15 But again, once there's that knowledge and

16 understanding and in putting it into practice, we

17 not only found that the prescribers were more

18 content and continuing to prescribe, but the

19 patients felt validated with their condition. They

20 felt validated in the pain that they were having,

21 and that they did not push back against treatment

22 agreements, or urine screens, or pill counts

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1 because they felt that they were engaged in their

2 own care and that interaction with patient to

3 prescriber brought about change across the

4 spectrums.

5 So it became a win-win in our own individual

6 community, and it was this chronic pain initiative

7 that after the pilot in our Wilkes County, North

8 Carolina did go throughout the state through our

9 community care networks of North Carolina.

10 You can see here from some of the data that

11 shows from the evaluation that Wake Forest Medical

12 School did in Wilkes, there were significant

13 changes and much improvement in the single

14 prescriber, and only one prescriber and only one

15 pharmacy. And the number of prescribers, the

16 number of phone calls, the number of ED visits all

17 decreased because of more engagement at the

18 prescriber level working with the individual that

19 has the pain, not only the person with the pain,

20 but their family and caregivers also, so that it

21 was a comprehensive approach, and everybody was in

22 tune with the risks and the benefits of the care

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1 that was necessary for that pain whatever the

2 cause.

3 Second to this, and I am really going

4 through three scenarios that we've done in the

5 state, is we assisted Fort Bragg at the Womack Army

6 Medical Center, began their pain program and

7 enhanced that dating back to 2008 after they had

8 read about us in our own North Carolina Medical

9 Forum.

10 What they have developed over time is

11 primary prevention looking at risk stratification,

12 doing the urine drug screens and the sole provider

13 agreements and the opioid profiles, doing

14 assessments on the front end to determine what are

15 the risks, and then what are the benefits regarding

16 that patient, continuing with the epi surveillance

17 of that, but then the secondary prevention of

18 education with patient and family, dispensing

19 naloxone directly to those individuals who

20 seemingly were at risk.

21 That was one of the first foremost things

22 that we did at Fort Bragg and made a significant

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1 change that I'll share in a minute. Then of

2 course, we were able to implement buprenorphine as

3 a detoxification method. And now of course, now

4 there's buprenorphine medication assisted treatment

5 allowed through Tricare within the military and at

6 Fort Bragg.

7 But what we found through that initially,

8 that they were having 15 overdoses per 400

9 soldiers, and in one year, that was reduced to 1 to

10 400. Of course, those that had survived overdose,

11 they had 17 per 1,000, and that dropped to 1.4.

12 And the contributing factor to that early on was

13 that sitting down and the co-prescribing of

14 naloxone with the soldier, with the soldiers,

15 whoever was around them, whether it was a family, a

16 spouse, whether it was their brigade sergeant,

17 whoever was engaged with them, sitting down because

18 it created that stop, look, and listen moment so

19 that they could see and understand the risk that

20 was involved but also the benefits that were

21 involved. And it changed everybody's behavior

22 surrounding that medication.

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1 Because we know that prescribers can

2 prescribe it exactly how it's supposed to for the

3 right diagnosis, the pharmacy can dispense it, but

4 once it walks out that door of the pharmacy, it is

5 in the community, and the behaviors are not so easy

6 to control at that point.

7 But we found that within the Army, which is

8 a controlled atmosphere, that we were able to do

9 that. And of course, now they're using

10 abuse-deterrent formulations for the refills,

11 again, just to add the insurance that diversion

12 doesn't occur.

13 So it's a systematic approach, risk

14 stratification, risk mitigation, provider

15 education, and other modalities with opioids,

16 including for that pain management, and again, in

17 the military they're covered and they're

18 accessible. That is not true across the spectrum

19 of medical care, and we hope that that will change

20 also.

21 It did result in a reduction of opioid

22 prescribing with decreased healthcare utilization,

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1 and an improvement with what we're all after,

2 patient satisfaction. So pain care still

3 continues, and satisfaction is there with or

4 without opioids, but using all the modalities that

5 are available to those individuals.

6 Just to give you an idea with the CMEs that

7 we do -- and normally we don't create any CMEs and

8 we're always a part of somebody else's CME. So I

9 can state unequivocally that any donations, any

10 contributions to Project Lazarus have never ever

11 gone to any kind of CME support or training.

12 But we notice that when we do this at the

13 local level, there is that -- I strongly agree and

14 I agree that the presentation positively impacted

15 my ability to provide services to patients or

16 clients. So that one-on-one, that small group at

17 the local level brings about that kind of change,

18 and then of course they understand the community

19 aspect and the engagement and the comprehensive

20 nature of that going forward.

21 But who is responsible for ensuring client

22 patient understands how to take prescribed

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1 medication? Well, when we talked about 32

2 individuals at one CME, it was the prescriber, the

3 pharmacist, the client, the patient, again where

4 does that happen in the mix? Because we can do all

5 the prescriber training, but if it does not

6 transfer to the patient, family, and caregiver,

7 then we've got a gap.

8 So it has to rollover to that scenario so

9 that there is a full understanding among whatever

10 that medication may be with that family, client,

11 and caregiver.

12 How do you ensure that client patients

13 understand how to take their medication correctly?

14 Again, you can see most of it yes is the 42 percent

15 at the prescribing level, that one-on-one

16 conversation, but others have a different modality.

17 And just handing a med-guide -- I hate to

18 say -- who reads it? Do they understand it?

19 So it has to be that engagement, that

20 conversation, again, so that the risks and benefits

21 are balanced and bringing in the other individuals

22 surrounding that patient.

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1 The third component that has been evaluated

2 in North Carolina regarding Project Lazarus, our

3 work has been done by UNC Injury Prevention

4 Research Center. All of the spokes that you saw on

5 the initial model of Project Lazarus have a direct

6 impact on the mortality, ED visits, and

7 hospitalizations from prescription medication

8 mainly, but now we are also in the spectrum of

9 heroin and fentanyl.

10 But we realized early on when we went

11 statewide in 2013 and 2014, the two that made the

12 direct immediate impact were prescriber education

13 and emergency department policies regarding the

14 level of prescribing for the individuals that were

15 attending there.

16 The third aspect of that was the addition of

17 addiction treatment within that community, that

18 local. That happened on basically in a short-term

19 basis. And the other spokes of that wheel, it was

20 over a longer period of time. But every single one

21 has a positive impact, but we learned through the

22 UNC evaluation that when communities do all of what

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1 we're doing, then they have the greatest impact.

2 So there isn't any one thing that we can do.

3 We can't focus in on just one thing. We can't just

4 say it's prescriber education and prescriber

5 education only that's going to make the difference.

6 No, it's not. It's everything else that goes along

7 with it.

8 This is a society and social issue that

9 we're dealing with across the board, and we have to

10 make sure that we address it that way. But to have

11 a 9 percent and a 3 percent immediate drop in

12 mortality and ED visits, and so forth within those

13 communities, that is significant, and we know that

14 it only grows from that going forward.

15 The most effective strategies to immediately

16 reduce overdose rates, and this is from the study

17 from UNC, were prescription education related to

18 pain management and addiction treatment; policies

19 designed to limit the amount of opioids dispensed

20 in emergency departments, because that is what we

21 found to be a frequent place for obtaining for

22 right or wrong reasons; and greater utilization of

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1 addiction treatment that has to be expanded across

2 the board. It's sorely missing in all our

3 communities.

4 But again, prescriber education has to be

5 linked to substance-use disorder, opioid use

6 disorder, and addiction treatment because they all

7 have to be engaged together.

8 That has to be not only part of the

9 education, but then part of what spills over to

10 that patient, family, and caregiver and into the

11 community from the prescribing level, and along

12 with, again, we found that co-prescribing of

13 naloxone is that stop, look, and listen moment that

14 gets everybody's attention. And that changes the

15 behavior of what we're after and what we're looking

16 for, yet, it continues the ability and the

17 availability of continuing to prescribe in order to

18 meet the need of the pain.

19 Same local strategies to prevent overdose

20 should consider interventions within the healthcare

21 system, but use community based coalitions. And

22 that's something else that we have learned through

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1 the evaluation, is it's, again, at the local level,

2 the coalition work builds the energy, so it builds

3 the desire to do best practice, not only in the

4 practitioner's office but, again, in that patient,

5 family, and caregiver's home, that they're doing

6 best practice with the medication, and ensuring

7 that nobody else gets their hands on it.

8 Who best to inform the patient, family, and

9 caregiver of how to take it correctly, dispose of

10 it properly, than the prescriber and then the

11 pharmacist because that's at the front end.

12 Yes, we want all of that to be done in the

13 community, and we've been broadcasting that in

14 communities. We've been broadcasting naloxone with

15 law enforcement, first responders; that is all

16 necessary. But if the patient walks out with the

17 information as to where I need to dispose of this

18 when I'm done with it, and that I have naloxone

19 just in case, and I have an overdose plan, then

20 those combined make a difference in the behaviors

21 and changes within our community. But the energy

22 has to come from within the community, and that has

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1 been our approach from the beginning and our

2 success across the board.

3 Now the words that I want to share, and my

4 words are never paid for, bought for, or written,

5 or spoken, or coerced by anybody else, but where

6 there is a will, there is a way.

7 When we began the work in North Carolina to

8 begin prescriber education across the state, it was

9 more for us pushing that education, but now we're

10 seeing that we are being pulled for that education.

11 So that transformation has occurred where the

12 prescribing community says, yes, we want

13 guidelines, we want assistance, we want to know

14 that best practice is. Let's get together and show

15 us how this can be done.

16 Again, now we have more of a will, now let's

17 determine what is the best way for that to done

18 without just simply mandating and saying this what

19 needs to be done. Well, if we mandate this, what

20 does that look like? And if the state mandates

21 this, what does that look like? If it is not

22 uniform, we are missing something because there

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1 could be gaps in that.

2 The training alone, we learned is not

3 sufficient. There has to be the support for the

4 general practice. There has to be the integration

5 of behavioral health, addiction treatment, and all

6 of that, because now we are looking at team-based

7 care. So it isn't just writing the prescription,

8 it's that holistic comprehensive approach around

9 the patient care that we find makes a difference.

10 Again, the availability, the accessibility,

11 and the covered modalities for pain management

12 should be readily available. If our guidelines are

13 saying begin here and not here, then we have to

14 make sure that that beginning is easily accessible

15 and covered and paid for in order to meet the need.

16 Because if we fail to treat, then we have walked

17 into the arena of mistreatment, whether it is for

18 people with pain or whether it is somebody who does

19 have a substance-use disorder, addiction issue, and

20 the prescribing community has to be engaged in all

21 of that. Thank you very much.

22 (Applause.)

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1 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thanks very much.

2 Next, we're going to hear from another

3 federal system from Dr. Bernie Good at the VA. He

4 is the chair of the Medical Advisory Panel for

5 Pharmacy Benefits Management at the Department of

6 Veterans Affairs, also professor of medicine, and a

7 member of the Drug Safety Board at the FDA.

8 Bernie, thank you.

9 Presentation – Chester Good

10 DR. GOOD: Thanks for the opportunity to

11 speak. I am with the Department of Veterans

12 Affairs. I have no conflicts of interest with any

13 pharmaceutical company. I do chair the Medical

14 Advisory Panel for Pharmacy Benefits, as Doug

15 stated, and I co-direct the VA Center for

16 Medication Safety, and I am a member of the FDA's

17 Drug Safety and Oversight Board.

18 I want to start with pain as the fifth vital

19 sign, and the reason I start here is because this

20 was early pain education that VA started. It was

21 back when the American Pain Society recommended

22 that pain be promoted as the fifth vital sign.

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1 James Campbell, president of the American

2 Pain Society in 1996, said, "Vital signs are taken

3 seriously. If pain were addressed with the same

4 zeal as other vital signs are, it would have a much

5 better chance of being treated properly."

6 The Department of Veterans Affairs was an

7 early adopter of pain as the fifth vital sign. In

8 1998, we started a national pain strategy where

9 this was incorporated. And in 2000, the VA

10 mandated that pain be the fifth vital sign, so that

11 every time that a patient would be seen and get

12 blood pressure, they would be asked about their

13 pain on a scale of 0 to 10.

14 This shows that at least part of the outcome

15 of that education was that we ended up with quite a

16 few patients on opioid medications for chronic

17 pain. By fiscal year 2016, these are the most

18 recent data, we had 1.2 million veterans that

19 received at least one opioid prescription. That's

20 15.4 percent of all of our patients who got any

21 prescription in that fiscal year.

22 This was down. It peaked in 2012. We had

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1 more than 7 million total opioid prescriptions, and

2 we have 30,000 VA prescribers who prescribed at

3 least one opioid prescription. We had 35,000

4 veterans who remain on more than 100 morphine

5 equivalents a day, but that is down from about

6 60,000 in 2012.

7 I think it's important to say that pain is

8 especially prevalent in VA. Fifty to 60 percent of

9 veterans have chronic pain. And again, 11 percent

10 of veterans with pain get those opioids

11 chronically. This compares to about 30 percent of

12 the general U.S. population with chronic pain.

13 I have here a timeline, and I am going to

14 focus on those areas in red, because those are part

15 of our education system. In 2013, we started the

16 Overdose Education and Naloxone Distribution

17 Program, and we'll talk a little bit about that.

18 In 2014, we started our Academic Detailing

19 Program with a focus on opioid prescribing. In

20 2016, the VA and Department of Defense Pain

21 Guidelines were issued, the most recent iteration

22 of those. And in 2016, we also had mandatory

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1 opioid training for all VA prescribers.

2 We have an opioid safety initiative, and

3 this is a comprehensive program, which includes

4 individualized prescriber facility and regional

5 reports. It includes provider tools to identify

6 high-risk patients at high-risk for overdose. We

7 have a comprehensive naloxone distribution program.

8 As I mentioned, we have academic detailing and

9 prescriber education as just some of the opioid

10 safety initiative.

11 In order to provide the patient, prescriber

12 facility, regional and national, opioid prescribing

13 information, we have dashboards that are available

14 to all prescribers, as well as site managers for

15 review. We track metrics of interests, and

16 aggregate data is routinely provided to facilities

17 for benchmarking.

18 These metrics include patients prescribed

19 opioids, presence of urine drug screens, concurrent

20 opioid plus benzodiazepine, and patients on

21 high-dose opioids to find there's more than

22 100 morphine-equivalent daily dose.

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1 As mentioned, we started the Naloxone

2 Distribution Program in 2013. We provide patient

3 and provider education regarding overdose

4 prevention. There are web-based accredited

5 provider education modules, patient and provider

6 handouts, YouTube videos, et cetera.

7 We provide free naloxone rescue kits to

8 patients with the education and instructions for

9 use. This program provides reports back to

10 facilities to track the distribution. And as of

11 March of 2017, we had 5200 VA prescribers who had

12 distributed more than 72,000 naloxone kits across

13 the VA. There were 172 documented opioid reversals

14 using these kits.

15 Academic detailing, in 2014, VA funded this

16 program. It's an outreach education for VA

17 healthcare professionals. This is fashioned after

18 the pharmaceutical industry where it's one-on-one

19 communication by clinical pharmacists using

20 pharmaceutical industry detailing models. Our

21 initial focus is still on opioids and psychiatric

22 drugs. It utilizes individualized online dashboard

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1 metrics.

2 We have 285 academic detailers throughout

3 the VA. And as of August of 2016, more than 10,000

4 clinical staff had been detailed regarding pain and

5 opioid safety. We have looked at those detailed,

6 and in those that were detailed, there's a

7 58 percent reduction in high-dose opioids compared

8 to 34 percent of those without the academic

9 detailing.

10 As is the case with all education, it's

11 really hard to single out what the impact of

12 education is. That was one attempt. So you can

13 see here, these are the academic detailing visits

14 focused on opioid safety and naloxone.

15 VA and Department of Defense published

16 clinical practice guidelines, and there's a recent

17 update of our clinical practice guidelines for the

18 management of opioid therapy for chronic pain.

19 This guideline is a departure from previous

20 guideline in that it recommends against the

21 initiation -- and I should have underscored

22 that -- initiation of long-term opioids for chronic

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1 pain; recommends setting limits; recommends short

2 duration only; recommends risk mitigation strategy

3 for those already on chronic opioids; and tapering

4 those opioids when feasible.

5 There was also a recent clinical practice

6 guideline for the management of low back pain with

7 similar recommendations.

8 In 2015, the White House published a

9 memorandum, which directed all federal employees

10 who prescribe opioids to be trained in safe and

11 effective opioid prescribing practices. The VA

12 developed several mandatory training programs to

13 meet this directive.

14 Just like everything we do, we have tracking

15 metrics for the training. And as of April 2017,

16 96 percent of all VA opioid prescribers had

17 documented meeting those training requirements,

18 including me.

19 What are the results of the Opioid Safety

20 Initiative? We have seen a dramatic improvement in

21 every metric, which involves opioids. We have

22 fewer patients getting opioids; fewer patients

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1 getting concomitant opioids and benzodiazepine;

2 fewer patients on high-dose opioids; more patients

3 with informed consent and drug screens; and we have

4 nearly universal use of the state PDMPs when

5 available and opioid training of prescribers.

6 Here's looking at a number of unique VA

7 patients dispensed an opioid over time by quarter,

8 and you can see the two lines. The first is when

9 we had our opioid safety charter, and the second is

10 when the Opioids Safety Initiative was fully

11 implemented. That was August of 2013.

12 How much of this is due to the Opioid Safety

13 Initiative? I don't know. This is just temporal

14 data. There were obviously national things that

15 were going on, and I'm sure there was spill-over.

16 So the best graph would have been to have shown

17 national data, but that's somewhat difficult to

18 get, surprisingly enough.

19 This is veterans dispensed an opioid and

20 concomitant, benzodiazepine. You can see there has

21 been a 60 percent reduction in that. Veterans on

22 long-term opioid therapy over time, 39 percent

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1 reduction over the last couple of years. High-dose

2 opioids defined as greater than 100 morphine

3 equivalence, a 48 percent reduction.

4 So the question always comes up, are there

5 unintended consequences? It's a very valid

6 question. In VA, we've had isolated reports of

7 physicians who implement rapid tapers or setting

8 arbitrary opioid dose limits for patients who are

9 on stable, chronic opioids, and I don't think

10 that's the right thing to do. We need to be

11 veteran centric, and when we've heard about these

12 things, we've tried to reach out and intervene.

13 But there's been the question raised, well

14 might prescribers be denying patients appropriate

15 pain management when an opioid might be indicated?

16 It's a fair question. There are reports we even

17 heard this morning. There are reports that some

18 physicians are no longer prescribing opioids.

19 A fair question, is prescribing of opioids

20 being just delegated to a diminishing number of

21 physicians? Are few people carrying this burden of

22 prescribing opioids for those patients who should

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1 get them?

2 We actually recently looked at this question

3 of are there fewer primary care physicians in VA

4 who are writing for opioids? And the answer is no.

5 We looked at a number of VA physicians who are

6 identified as primary care specialty before and

7 after the Opioid Safety Initiative.

8 We looked at the percentage of primary care

9 physicians who prescribed opioids over time. And

10 then we focused on the top 25 percent of opioid

11 prescribers to see if they were now caring for more

12 patients to see if there were some physicians

13 sending their patients to others.

14 Really, the results are remarkably flat over

15 time. So at least in VA, it does not appear that

16 physicians are abdicating their responsibility to

17 write for opioids. Although, in those graphs, you

18 can see that there is a trend for all physicians to

19 decrease their overall percentage of patients

20 getting opioids and unsafe doses of opioids.

21 In conclusion, I think there's been many

22 lessons that we've learned and continue to learn.

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1 We continue to look for ways to assess our program

2 and improve success. We continue to seek ways to

3 educate opioid prescribers, as well as our

4 patients.

5 I think it's really a tricky balance between

6 creating work for providers and facilities, and

7 maintaining the trust of our veterans who have

8 chronic pain, and improving the safety of opioid

9 use in the VA. And I should say improving the

10 appropriate management of pain in the VA.

11 Outcomes like overdose, transitioning of

12 veterans, to illicit drug use, these are difficult

13 to measure, but they are also important things and

14 things that we are trying to look for. That's all

15 I have.

16 (Applause.)

17 DR. THROCKMORTON: Our last speaker in this

18 session is Dr. Carol Havens, director of physical

19 education development, Kaiser Permanente, Northern

20 California, and a clinical lead of their opioids

21 initiative.

22 Carol, thanks.

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1 Presentation – Carol Havens

2 DR. HAVENS: Good morning. Just to clarify,

3 I'm not the director of physical education; I'm the

4 director of physician education and development.

5 (Laughter.)

6 DR. HAVENS: At one time or another, I might

7 have wanted to be a gym teacher, but I was not

8 nearly smart enough to do that.

9 Thank you for inviting me here to talk about

10 the work that we've been doing within the

11 Permanente Medical Group in Northern California

12 around our opioid safety initiative.

13 For those of you who are not familiar with

14 us, in Northern California, we care for over

15 4 million members. We have 35,000 nurses and staff

16 located in 21 medical centers and over 200 medical

17 offices and other outpatient facilities.

18 The Permanente Medical Group is an

19 integrated multi-specialty medical group, which

20 contracts with the Kaiser Health Plan to provide

21 care to the members, and the medical group is

22 composed of over 9,000 physicians, making us the

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1 largest medical group in the nation. And we are

2 represented by over 70 specialties and

3 sub-specialties. So it's a pretty large group.

4 Our initiative goals are very similar to

5 what you've heard already, is to ensure that we

6 provide safe and effective and appropriate care to

7 our patients across the region, and that we give

8 our physicians the tools and support needed in

9 order to be able to provide that kind of care.

10 We went through a multi-step process to do

11 this. We started this in actually 2014, and we

12 started with looking at all of the recommendations,

13 both the evidence-based recommendations, the

14 available evidence, best practices, expert opinion,

15 our regulations; we looked at the California

16 Medical Board guidelines for prescribing, all of

17 which changed while we were in the process of

18 developing this.

19 We put together a multidisciplinary team

20 representing essentially all of the groups that

21 were involved in this, so we had specialties. We

22 had primary care; we had chronic pain; we had

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1 addiction medicine; we had mental health; we had

2 pharmacy; we had quality; we had our Health

3 Connect, which is our electronic medical record; we

4 had patient education; we had representatives from

5 most of the groups.

6 So we put together a multidisciplinary team

7 to review all of those recommendations and develop

8 workflows, specialty-specific workflows. And we

9 started with adult and family medicine, because

10 they were the most common prescribers within

11 Northern California, and developed a workflow for

12 our adult and family medicine providers for how to

13 both initiate and do ongoing monitoring for

14 patients who are on opioids.

15 We developed an education curriculum in

16 order to implement the workflow within adult and

17 family medicine. We developed the curriculum

18 regionally to include both why we were doing this

19 as well as what our recommendations were, and some

20 about how those recommendations would be

21 implemented.

22 We did a Train the Trainer regionally, so

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1 from our 21 medical centers, each sent their own

2 multidisciplinary team, and we trained all of them

3 on the curriculum, and they then went back and

4 delivered it locally.

5 The best education is local, as has already

6 been said, and within each of our medical centers,

7 although we are all part of the same medical group,

8 there are different resources and different

9 cultures at each of the medical centers. So there

10 were certain parts of the workflow that needed to

11 be customized for each individual facility, so we

12 gave them the opportunity to then customize the

13 workflow based on their own culture and their own

14 resources.

15 The in-person training, the original

16 training was developed as a 6 to 8-hour curriculum,

17 which was done in person, and it included the time

18 variable, included how much communication training.

19 We included a significant portion of

20 patient-clinician communication, which included

21 role playing and practice having conversations with

22 patients.

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1 That training was delivered at all of our

2 medical centers by -- the Train the Trainer was

3 done in September of 2014. It was rolled out at

4 all of our medical centers by May of the following

5 year.

6 Subsequent to that, we developed online

7 modules to include all of the same information with

8 the exception of doing the communication training,

9 which is still done live. The online training is

10 now available both for new hires, as well as a

11 refresher for those who have already taken the

12 course, and the online module is 3 hours long.

13 We also created metrics, as again you have

14 already heard, so most of the metrics that we've

15 included are similar to the ones that the VA does.

16 These metrics are provided to the department chiefs

17 on a monthly basis, which includes prescriber-level

18 data for every member of their department on the

19 number of prescriptions, the number of high-dose

20 prescriptions, the number of concomitant

21 prescriptions with sedatives, a variety of other

22 things.

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1 In addition, our prescribers have access to

2 real-time data through our electronic medical

3 record, that at any time they can go in and see

4 their own dashboard and see which of their patients

5 have not had a urine drug screen within the past

6 year, which is one of our recommendations; which

7 ones don't have medication safety agreements that

8 are signed and on file, which is another one of our

9 recommendations; which ones have not been seen

10 within the past six months, which is one of our

11 recommendations.

12 Our physicians have access any time to

13 real-time data, as well as the monthly reports that

14 are given to the chief. So our physicians can see

15 not only what they're prescribing and their

16 practices are like, but they can also compare it to

17 their colleagues.

18 We firmly believe that one education is no

19 education, so we have ongoing opportunities for

20 reinforcing this, which include -- each of our

21 facilities has established an opioid team at their

22 own facility with an opioid lead, and they have

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1 regular meetings.

2 We meet with the opioid leads on a monthly

3 basis, and they have regular meetings at their

4 facilities. The department chiefs, when they get

5 their monthly reports, provide the information at

6 department meetings. We also do academic

7 detailing. We have been doing academic detailing

8 for over 20 years within Northern California of a

9 variety of things and now including opioids.

10 We also have pain pharmacists, so a

11 pharmacist who specializes in working with patients

12 who are in pain who can also help with both

13 assuring that the recommendations for ongoing

14 monitoring are done, can help with tapering if that

15 is indicated, and have provided tremendous support

16 for our providers.

17 Subsequent to the adult and family medicine,

18 we have also worked with the emergency department

19 to create recommendations for workflows within the

20 emergency department because the way emergency

21 departments practice and the things that they

22 experience are significantly different than most of

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1 our outpatient adult and family medicine providers.

2 We worked, again, with a multidisciplinary

3 team, including emergency department chiefs and

4 providers, to develop recommendations for emergency

5 departments. We did the same kind of a process

6 with them. Our education was a little different

7 because most of our emergency department providers

8 can't come to live meetings. So most of their

9 education was done online with the exception of,

10 again, the communication training.

11 The metrics that we've been following for

12 the emergency department include both the use of

13 parenteral opioids in the emergency room, as well

14 as discharge opioids. We wanted to make sure that

15 the recommendations that we made for our emergency

16 department providers were consistent with the

17 recommendations that we were making for our adult

18 and family medicine providers.

19 It didn't make a lot of sense to us to

20 recommend for our adult and family medicine

21 providers that they not refill the prescriptions

22 that the dog ate, or that were in the car that was

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1 stolen, or any of the other things that they

2 commonly heard if they were just going to show up

3 in the emergency room and get their refills. So we

4 tried to create both linkages and consistency

5 between practices.

6 Our current process project is with the

7 orthopedic surgeons and podiatrists who have been

8 an amazing group to work with and very excited

9 about doing this work. With them, we're creating a

10 three-part process in terms of recommendations for

11 both pre-op care.

12 The peri-op period is we've instituted ERAS,

13 the enhanced recovery after surgery, in all of our

14 facilities, so that covers most of the

15 perioperative care, and then we have separate

16 recommendations for post-op care; again,

17 delineating expectations and rational and resources

18 and assistance, as well as making it clear at what

19 point handoffs occur, how those handoffs occur to

20 make sure that patients don't get lost in the

21 process.

22 Our results, as the VA has, we've shown some

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1 pretty dramatic decreases. We've had a 43 percent

2 reduction in opioid prescribing in the two years

3 since we implemented the process. I don't have the

4 slides on it, but we've seen a decrease in

5 overdoses in the same time period.

6 Other measures of our success -- because we

7 weren't really concentrating just on opioids. We

8 really wanted to look at the overall picture of

9 safety and monitoring for our patients.

10 Seventy-nine percent of our patients on high-dose

11 opioids now have an opioid agreement, a medication

12 agreement, in their charts compared to 42 percent

13 before we started this.

14 Over 75 percent have had a urine drug screen

15 within the previous 12 months, compared to

16 52 percent before we started this. Both of those

17 are recommendations for the adult and family

18 medicine.

19 We have also seen a pretty significant

20 reduction in those who are on high-dose opioids, as

21 with the VA, defined as over 100 milligrams of

22 morphine equivalents per day, from 21 per 10,000

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1 patients to 13 per 10,000 patients.

2 Measures of success within the emergency

3 department, our discharge opioid prescribing was

4 reduced by one-third. The parenteral use of

5 opioids in the emergency department was reduced by

6 15 percent. We were already fairly low, as 16 and

7 a half percent of our patients received parenteral

8 opioids in the emergency room; now 14 percent do.

9 Significantly, since we're talking about

10 education here, over 95 percent of our emergency

11 department providers have undergone the multi-hour

12 training. This is not mandatory. This is

13 voluntary training for both adult and family

14 medicine, as well as for the emergency department.

15 For adult and family medicine, we had

16 virtually 100 percent participation with the

17 original training. We're having a little more

18 trouble with the online training with the new

19 hires, but they are getting a whole lot of things

20 all at once, so we're working on that.

21 As with Project Lazarus, I'm really glad

22 that they've seen the same kind of measures of

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1 success or the same reasons for the success that we

2 have. We feel that there are a number of reasons

3 for the success that we've had within the

4 organization.

5 First of all, we have strong visible

6 leadership support. A number of our physicians

7 said we really don't feel comfortable with

8 prescribing, but we don't feel like we're supported

9 to not prescribe. So what we heard was having

10 clear, consistent guidelines, with leadership

11 support at every level saying we support you doing

12 the right thing, and here's what the right thing

13 is, made a huge difference.

14 The clarity and the consistency of a non-

15 judgmental message, we really tried very hard not

16 to say it's your fault, or it's the patient's

17 fault, or you're to blame, or you're responsible

18 for this. There were lots of things that happened

19 to create this issue with opioids in the country;

20 there's lots of opportunities to intervene in a

21 number of different ways.

22 The interdisciplinary workgroup we think

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1 made a huge difference because it really brought in

2 all of the appropriate people. And although the

3 recommendations that we developed are not

4 significantly different than all the other ones

5 that you see out there, we feel having our own

6 physicians be part of making these recommendations

7 gave them credibility because we could say our

8 physicians, our chiefs, our organization supports

9 these guidelines. We've looked at them and this is

10 what we think is appropriate for our practices and

11 our organization.

12 So the interdisciplinary workgroup was

13 really important to bring in the perspectives from

14 all the different areas. We provide lots of

15 coaching, education, and support for our

16 physicians. Just explaining to physicians or just

17 doing training on why they need to make a change

18 doesn't really lead to change. Even telling them

19 what they need to do will lead to some change, but

20 unless they also know how to do it, it's not going

21 to be as successful.

22 So our education was really about the why,

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1 the what, and the how, and the how included lots of

2 support, including tools that were built into our

3 electronic medical record, which does some amazing

4 things. You see a patient who is on chronic

5 opioids, it will automatically check to see if

6 they've had a urine drug screen in the past year.

7 If they have not, it will order one. You can

8 de-select that if you want to, but it will

9 automatically include it on your order sheet.

10 If you have a patient who is on methadone

11 and they have not had an EKG within the past year,

12 it will automatically order it for you. Again, you

13 can de-select it, but it will automatically be

14 there. So it's a reminder system, as well as a

15 prompt, to allow our physicians to do the right

16 thing.

17 Use of physician-specific data, we had a

18 number of physicians when we started this say this

19 doesn't apply to me because I don't prescribe

20 opioids. We certainly heard this from some of our

21 surgical colleagues until we were able to show them

22 their data. And then they kind of went, oh, on

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1 second thought, maybe I kind of do need to talk to

2 you about this.

3 So the physician-specific data has been

4 really important and hugely valuable. Although, we

5 don't make it mandatory and we don't penalize

6 people for prescribing, physicians, although we

7 love to talk about how independent we are and that

8 nobody tells us how to practice, we also really

9 hate being outliers. So getting your own

10 prescribing data and being able to compare that to

11 your colleagues creates a tremendous incentive to

12 find out what the differences are. And in some

13 cases, there are very good reasons for those

14 differences, and that's just fine.

15 Our emphasis has really been on doing the

16 right things, taking the right steps in terms of

17 both evaluation of the patient prior to initiating,

18 as well as ongoing monitoring. As long as you do

19 all of those things and you can document all of the

20 decisions that you made, and why you made those

21 decisions, that's just fine. But we want to make

22 sure that you're taking all the appropriate steps

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1 to ensure the safety of your patients.

2 Identifying individuals to help colleagues

3 with tough cases, many of our facilities have

4 actually instituted a pain board similar to tumor

5 boards, which brings together, again, all of the

6 appropriate specialties. And physicians can bring

7 their tough cases and say I've done this, I've

8 tried this, what else should I do? Are there other

9 medications that I should use? Are there other

10 interventions? Are there other specialties that I

11 need to get involved? And it's been tremendously

12 helpful for our physicians.

13 The collaboration between the medical group

14 and the pharmacy, we had some interesting

15 experiences early on where the pharmacy had one

16 initiative and we had a different one, and we had

17 to get together and say we need to be measuring the

18 same things and we need to be providing the same

19 message and consistency about those messages. And

20 that's been a huge part of our success.

21 With that, I have one minute left, so I will

22 give it back to Doug and for questions. Thank you.

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1 (Applause.)

2 Questions and Answers

3 DR. THROCKMORTON: All right, thank you. We

4 do have a few minutes for questions. Start right

5 over there.

6 MR. ANDERSON: Hello. I'm Jimmy Anderson.

7 I'm a physician assistant, and I'm really glad to

8 be here. What a great meeting. I am here as a

9 member of the American Academy of PAs and their

10 specialty organization, Society of PAs and

11 Addiction Medicine.

12 One question I have for all of you, when you

13 looked at some of the unintended consequences of

14 the more restrictive opioid prescribing and

15 achieving far lower rates of opioid prescribing,

16 did you see an uptick in illicit use of opiates?

17 MR. BRASON In our individual community of

18 just Wilkes County, our prescribing level really

19 did not change that much, so there wasn't any

20 significant decrease. We have a high level of

21 social determinants, which drives the illicit

22 aspect and may or may not have started with

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1 opioids.

2 The question you have does have a role in

3 what is occurring today, definitely, that if that

4 person who developed a problem either accidentally

5 or had considerable substance-use issues previously

6 is suddenly cut off and no place to go, that cutoff

7 could be because -- found something on the PDMP,

8 and I'm not going to prescribe you anymore,

9 goodbye, then that person is sent out to the street

10 with no other alternative.

11 It does have a role -- we have to be

12 attentive, too, to make sure that any individual,

13 whether we're decreasing opioids or stopping

14 opioids, that there is another individual we're

15 handing them off to, to ensure appropriate care

16 beyond that aspect.

17 DR. HAVENS: I think it's a little tough to

18 know that. We've looked at -- as I've mentioned,

19 we've seen a decrease in our overdose rate in our

20 emergency room. That's all drugs. So at least in

21 our emergency rooms, we've seen a decrease in

22 overdose rates among all drugs.

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1 We also were very fortunate that we have in

2 every one of our hospitals -- every one of our

3 medical centers has a chemical dependency program,

4 so we have resources to get patients with

5 problematic use into treatment if they're willing

6 to go. But that's certainly one of the fears that

7 everybody has, is are we just moving this down the

8 road?

9 DR. GOOD: It's a legitimate question and

10 concern, but it is very difficult to measure it.

11 And we're left with these intermediate outcomes.

12 So we try to very carefully track and trend

13 unintentional drug overdoses, not just

14 prescription, any, as well as unintentional death.

15 And they are going down, but it's not the same. No

16 doubt, there probably are some patients that do do

17 that, and it's most unfortunate.

18 DR. THROCKMORTON: Here.

19 DR. BERGER: I'm still Tom Berger from

20 Vietnam Veterans of America. And my question is

21 for Dr. Havens. As you're probably aware,

22 dissemination science has found lots of differences

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1 between in-person training and video training. And

2 you mentioned your training does have some

3 challenges or problems with the video stuff.

4 Would you care to elaborate on the

5 differences perhaps behind personal training and

6 video training?

7 DR. HAVENS: Sure. We have a lot of video

8 training that we do. We have not incorporated that

9 into the opioid training. We have online training.

10 There are certain things that I think can

11 only be done in a personal training. I think

12 learning new skills requires practice and requires

13 live training to be done. And that's why we do the

14 communication training live because we think that

15 that requires the ability to see and practice and

16 get feedback on your actual performance.

17 For purely didactic, for knowledge-based,

18 you just need to know what the guidelines are. You

19 need to the why of the guidelines. That can

20 probably be done any way, and that's what we do

21 online. But a lot of what we do is still done in

22 person because we do believe that it's the best way

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1 to do it.

2 DR. BERGER: Thank you.

3 DR. THROCKMORTON: Over there.

4 MS. HARRIS: Patrice Harris, chair of the

5 Board of the American Medical Association.

6 Congratulations to you all for the work that you're

7 doing and the success that you are having.

8 Dr. Good, thank you as well for noting that

9 the data regarding the decrease is temporal data

10 and not necessarily cause and effect. I think

11 that's critical. Thank you all for doing the

12 evaluation, the inspection of your expectations.

13 For Dr. Good and Dr. Havens, are you also

14 tracking the utilization of non-pharmacologic

15 alternatives to treatment, and did you have to

16 within your systems remove some administrative

17 barriers, such as prior authorization and

18 fail-first for some of those, as well as

19 medication-assisted treatment?

20 DR. THROCKMORTON: Great question.

21 DR. GOOD: Sure. So, yes.

22 (Laughter.)

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1 DR. GOOD: We have looked at the uptake of

2 non-opioid pharmacotherapies, and one of the tasks

3 of the group that I work with is to put things on

4 formulary and make them available. So we

5 specifically looked at things, things like topical

6 creams that can be used, other non-opioid/non-pain

7 meds that augment pain therapy, and think it's an

8 important part.

9 We actually also looked to see did our use

10 of non-steroidal -- I mean, one could argue we only

11 have so many things in our arsenal of ways to treat

12 patients, and some of them are with drugs and some

13 are non-drug things like physical therapy and

14 acupuncture.

15 VA clearly ramped up -- I didn't present

16 those data, but we clearly ramped up the

17 availability of things like Tai Chi, acupuncture,

18 non-pharmacologic means to address chronic pain.

19 DR. HAVENS: And we did the same thing.

20 When we were going through this, one of the things

21 that became very clear is you can't just say no,

22 and you have to provide alternatives. So we had to

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1 take a look at what alternatives we provided and

2 realized we had to do the same thing.

3 We significantly increased availability to

4 physical therapy, to group visits, to other

5 modalities of treatment. I'd have to assume that

6 those were increased since we didn't have them

7 before it's really tough to know. We don't have

8 prior authorization. We don't have such a thing,

9 so we didn't have that barrier to start with.

10 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thanks. Next?

11 MS. CHEEK: Linda Cheek from Roanoke,

12 Virginia. I'm a physician victim of prosecutorial

13 misconduct in the area of pain management. I am

14 the founder of doctorsofcourage.org, and I work for

15 American Pain Institute as an advisor.

16 What I'm interested in is following cases of

17 doctors across the country that are being attacked

18 for doing pain management, and any information --

19 since mandatory laws in the states is an open door

20 for attacking more physicians.

21 Also providing naloxone like is now being

22 done and they're saying for high risk, but then if

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1 you're a high risk and you provide pain medication

2 to a high-risk patient, then you can very easily be

3 attacked.

4 Just open to the door for you, for the

5 speakers, and also anyone else in the room, are you

6 following the doctors in the states that are being

7 attacked for doing pain management? Is there any

8 way for us to get that information so we can see

9 that data?

10 Also, it's very nice to put numbers on the

11 screen that show how well you're decreasing in the

12 VA, how well you're decreasing pain prescribing.

13 But what you don't show is the lack of quality of

14 life that the VA patients now have as a result of

15 having their medicines cut. And of course that's

16 across the board, not just the VA, but the whole

17 world, or United States.

18 I guess my main question is are you

19 following and tracking the doctors being attacked

20 for doing the job that you are telling them to do?

21 DR. GOOD: I'll start. We're not tracking

22 the states. But it was interesting when

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1 Dr. Schulkin, the secretary, had in his nomination

2 hearings, and this issue of opioid use was brought

3 up. And one of the questioners, who was a

4 physician, also a congressman, said can you tell me

5 how many VA physicians have been disciplined and

6 have been de-credentialed because they are writing

7 too many opioids?

8 I got the privilege of responding to that

9 question. And the answer was there's one VA

10 physician who was de-credentialed in the past

11 couple years, and we think that that's the wrong

12 way to go about it; that you don't want to do that

13 because if you look at -- use the word

14 high-outliers.

15 If you look at high-outliers, many of these

16 physicians are running pain clinics, are taking

17 patients with chronic pain situations that many

18 routine providers either are incapable of taking

19 care of or don't want to take care of. So the last

20 thing you want to do is discipline and

21 de-credential patients [sic].

22 Regarding the second question, what's the

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1 quality of care when you do decrease the opioids?

2 It's a very difficult question to answer. It

3 hasn't yet been published, but it was just

4 presented.

5 Dr. Aaron Krebs did a study at the

6 Minneapolis VA. They took a large cohort of

7 patients with chronic pain, and they either used

8 opioids or they had a non-opioid track where they

9 helped these veterans, and they now are publishing

10 the results. And actually, the quality of care and

11 physical functioning is better for those that

12 aren't on chronic opioids.

13 So that's a little different question than

14 what you're asking, and that is someone who's on a

15 chronic stable dose of opioids, what's the effect

16 of taking them off? And I think there's no easy

17 answer.

18 I can also just tell you my own personal

19 experience has been that in several patients that

20 I've had who are on really dangerous doses, I was

21 able to get them off, and in one case, the patient

22 is now on chronic Suboxone, and the other case the

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1 patient is off. And in both cases, once they were

2 off or on Suboxone, had been quite grateful and

3 said that the quality of their life is much better,

4 their physical functioning has gotten much better.

5 But those are anecdotes, and I'm sure there

6 are patients who the physician says you're on

7 120 morphine equivalents, and, darn it, we've got

8 to get you under 100. So I'm dropping you to 90.

9 On a patient who's been stable and tolerating,

10 there's really no need to do that.

11 DR. THROCKMORTON: We're going to have time

12 for one more question just briefly. Yes, I think

13 we're going to have to -- interest of time.

14 MS. CHAMBERS: Jan Chambers, National

15 Fibromyalgia and Chronic Pain Association. I

16 appreciate this open forum to what you're doing and

17 the progress you are making.

18 Our organization has been looking at that

19 intersection between chronic pain and substance-use

20 disorder, and particularly people who are getting

21 in trouble with the court systems. When they are

22 given the opportunity to go to a drug court and go

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1 through that program, we are seeing that people

2 with chronic pain are not receiving treatment, only

3 their substance-use disorder is being treated.

4 So we're trying to develop a peer mentoring

5 program, and I'm expanding this. We're just

6 starting with a pilot idea. If people --

7 DR. THROCKMORTON: Jan, if there's a

8 question you're going to ask, please get to that.

9 I'm sorry.

10 MS. CHAMBERS: Have you used peer mentoring?

11 Have you considered peer mentoring?

12 DR. HAVENS: Have we considered what?

13 MS. CHAMBERS: Peer mentoring.

14 DR. HAVENS: Peer mentoring. Well, we have

15 lots of patient groups, and it's a wonderful

16 opportunity to get peers involved and getting

17 people involved and helping their colleagues. I

18 think it's terrific. So yeah, we do use that.

19 DR. BRANSON: We've done the same thing,

20 yes.

21 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thirty seconds or --

22 DR. KAHN: For Dr. Havens and Dr. Good.

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1 You're in big systems. This is Norman Kahn from

2 the Conjoint Committee and Continuing Education.

3 It there anything about what you're doing that's

4 replicable to small practices that are all over the

5 country?

6 DR. BRANSON: I've spoken too much.

7 DR. HAVENS: Yes. Next question?

8 (Laughter.)

9 DR. THROCKMORTON: That's a great question,

10 actually. I think that's going to be one for the

11 second day.

12 DR. HAVENS: Okay, great. Then I'll just

13 say yes, and we'll talk about it tomorrow.

14 DR. THROCKMORTON: I think a really

15 important question, beyond yes I guess.

16 Now, Doris. I'm so excited to have Dr. Auth

17 talking. I tried to jump the gun on her. She is

18 going to be talking about the REMS and some of the

19 considerations there. Thanks, Doris.

20 Presentation – Doris Auth

21 DR. AUTH: Thanks, Doug.

22 I was going to begin with a good morning,

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1 but we are dangerously close to lunch, so I'm just

2 going to say good afternoon. Again, my name is

3 Doris Auth. I'm with the Division of Risk

4 Management in the Center for Drug Evaluation and

5 Research.

6 The Division of Risk Management is primarily

7 tasked with reviewing new drug applications, as

8 well as existing products when safety signals are

9 identified for the need for a risk evaluation and

10 mitigation strategy.

11 We also work with sponsors once the need for

12 REMS is determined. We also review the periodic

13 REMS assessments to determine if the program is

14 meeting its goals and whether any modifications to

15 the REMS are necessary.

16 I'll be providing some examples of how the

17 FDA REMS authorities are used to ensure prescribers

18 receive training on risks and safe-use conditions

19 of a particular drug and how a required prescriber

20 education or training program for prescribers of

21 opioid analgesics could be operationalized. And

22 finally, the potential impact of such a program on

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1 patients, prescribers, and pharmacies.

2 Before I get to how an opioid analgesic REMS

3 that requires prescriber training would operate and

4 how it might impact stakeholders, I will provide a

5 quick review of the REMS authorities and REMS

6 elements; an overview of the current REMS programs

7 and the elements of these programs.

8 I'll then provide two examples of REMS

9 programs that require prescribers to complete

10 training before prescribing; then a proposal for a

11 possible opioid analgesic REMS and its potential

12 impact of the REMS on stakeholders. I'll wrap up

13 with a few issues to consider if such a program

14 were required.

15 You've heard several presentations since

16 Dr. Manzo provided a background on REMS, so I am

17 going to quickly review her slides again.

18 REMS is a required risk management plan that

19 goes beyond labeling to address a risk or risks of

20 a product. The FDA was granted the authority to

21 require REMS with the FDA Amendments Act of 2007.

22 REMS can be pre-approval or post-approval, and REMS

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1 are developed and implemented by manufacturers of

2 drugs.

3 Again, a REMS can include several

4 components, including a medication guide or patient

5 package insert; communication plan; elements to

6 ensure safe use, or ETASU; implantation system.

7 All REMS for new drug applications and

8 biologic applications must have a timetable for

9 submission of the assessment. This timetable is

10 not required for generic or abbreviated new drug

11 applications.

12 This slide further describes the elements to

13 ensure safe use. I have bolded the first bullet,

14 the certification and training of prescribers

15 because that's the focus of this meeting.

16 The second bullet is also bolded. I believe

17 that Claudia mentioned this as well earlier.

18 Certification of pharmacies is necessary in order

19 to verify that prescribers in a REMS program have

20 completed training prior to dispensing.

21 There are currently 74 REMS programs.

22 Thirty of these do not have elements to ensure safe

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1 use; 42 have elements to ensure safe use. Of the

2 32 that don't have elements to ensure safe use, 15

3 are medication guide only, 12 are communication

4 plan only, and 5 have both communication plan and

5 medication guides.

6 Of the 42 programs with elements to ensure

7 safe use, 34 of these are restrictive and 8 are

8 non-restrictive. I would like to note that these

9 programs can also have a medication guide or

10 communication plan as a component.

11 Just a reminder, these ETASU programs that

12 are restricted require some action on the part of

13 prescribers, pharmacies, and possibly patients in

14 order to prescribe, dispense, or take the drug.

15 Most often, there is a requirement for

16 certification or training of prescribers, as well

17 as documentation that a safe-use condition was met

18 prior to dispensing or administering the drug. An

19 example of a safe-use condition would be

20 verification that a patient has completed a patient

21 prescriber agreement or a PPA.

22 The only requirement in the current

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1 non-restrictive ETASU programs is for the

2 manufacturers to make training available to likely

3 prescribers. And as described earlier by Dr.

4 Manzo, the extended-release and long-acting opioid

5 analgesic is one of these non-restrictive programs.

6 The next two slides will outline the

7 operations of a restrictive program when prescriber

8 training is a REMS requirement.

9 The sponsor or drug manufacturer provides

10 training to likely prescribers of the drug. The

11 sponsors also notify distributors of the program

12 requirements. Once prescribers complete training

13 and certify into the program, they are enrolled in

14 the program.

15 Dispensing pharmacies and pharmacists must

16 also complete training, certify, and enroll the

17 pharmacy into the REMS. Distributors must agree to

18 only ship the REMS drug to enrolled, certified

19 pharmacies, and a database of enrolled prescribers,

20 pharmacies, and distributers is maintained by the

21 sponsor.

22 Under the system, a patient receives a

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1 prescription for the REMS drug, takes the

2 prescription to the pharmacy to be filled. The

3 pharmacy must check that database. If the

4 prescriber is enrolled and any safe-use conditions

5 are met, there is an authorization to dispense that

6 is granted by the database, and the prescription is

7 dispensed.

8 On the other hand, if one or more of those

9 entities, pharmacist or prescriber, are not

10 enrolled, then the prescription is not dispensed.

11 This leaves the pharmacy to have to go back to the

12 patient, and there can be delays in dispensing of

13 the product.

14 I mentioned earlier that there were

15 currently 34 REMS with elements to ensure safe use

16 that were restrictive. The next slide provides

17 some information on stakeholder participation in a

18 subset of those programs. The programs that are

19 excluded are primarily programs that are newer

20 where we just don't have the assessment data or

21 programs that don't require pharmacy and prescriber

22 certification.

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1 Recent REMS assessment data from this subset

2 show as few as about 100 participating patients

3 receiving a REMS drug to as many as 370,000. The

4 prescriber range is 80 to 27,000, and that is 80

5 prescribers, 27,000 prescribers. The range for

6 pharmacies is one pharmacy to 48,000 pharmacies.

7 While the ranges of each stakeholder

8 participating may seem pretty large, I'd like to

9 point out that more than half of these programs are

10 relatively small with fewer than 10,000 patients,

11 fewer than 10,000 prescribers, and fewer than

12 10,000 pharmacies that are participating. There

13 are a number of REMS programs, as you may be aware,

14 that are for products intended to treat orphan

15 diseases that have relatively small patient

16 populations.

17 Earlier, I gave a somewhat elementary

18 description of how prescriber education could be

19 required under a REMS. I am going to spend the

20 next few minutes giving some examples of the

21 operations of a couple of restrictive REMS programs

22 that have been in place for several years.

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1 The first example is the isotretinoin or

2 iPLEDGE REMS program. It is a shared-system REMS

3 approved in 2005 and currently has five application

4 holders. Indication for isotretinoin is severe

5 recalcitrant acne, and the risk that the REMS is

6 attempting to mitigate is a risk of teratogenicity.

7 So the goals are to prevent fetal exposure and

8 inform prescribers, pharmacists, and patients about

9 the serious risks and safe-use conditions.

10 This next slide shows an overview of the

11 requirements. First, prescribers are required to

12 review the educational program in order to become

13 certified. They then enroll in the REMS program.

14 They are required to counsel all patients on the

15 risks of isotretinoin and enroll them by the

16 appropriate patient risk category.

17 For patients in the risk category of females

18 of reproductive potential, the prescribers have to

19 document that safe-use conditions have been met

20 both prior to the first prescription and again with

21 each monthly prescription. And by safe-use

22 condition, I mean, a negative pregnancy test.

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1 Pharmacists also have educational materials

2 to review in order to become certified and enroll

3 in the REMS. Pharmacists must provide each patient

4 with a medication guide each month. In addition,

5 pharmacies have to obtain authorization to dispense

6 each prescription by the REMS program.

7 For the iPLEDGE program, this is done

8 through the pharmacy accessing a separate database.

9 This is an interactive either voice or web-based

10 system. This is outside their current work-flow.

11 Pharmacies obtain this authorization number, and

12 that serves to document the date and the result of

13 the pregnancy test, and then the prescription can

14 be dispensed.

15 Finally, for patients in the iPLEDGE

16 program, if they're enrolled in iPLEDGE, they have

17 to review and sign an informed consent. Females of

18 reproductive potential also have to, again, have

19 pretreatment and monthly pregnancy tests. They

20 also have to access the REMS program on a monthly

21 basis, complete comprehension questions on the

22 risks, and document that they are complying with

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1 our chosen form of contraception.

2 The second REMS example is a transmucosal

3 immediate-release fentanyl, or TIRF REMS, which is

4 also a shared-system REMS program. It was approved

5 back in 2011. It currently includes 8 application

6 holders.

7 The TIRFs are indicated for breakthrough

8 pain in cancer patients that are already receiving

9 and tolerant to around-the-clock opioid therapy for

10 underlying persistent cancer pain. The majority of

11 the products are indicated for patients 18 years

12 and above, and the formulations include a buccal

13 tablet, a buccal film, a lozenge, a sublingual

14 spray, and a nasal spray.

15 The next slide shows an overview of the

16 requirements for the stakeholders that are involved

17 in the outpatient dispensing and use of the TIRF

18 products. We do have slightly different

19 requirements and a process for inpatient

20 prescribing, dispensing, and use.

21 Again, prescribers are required to review an

22 educational program and successfully complete a

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1 knowledge assessment in order to become certified

2 and enroll in the program. They must agree and

3 attest that they will counsel each patient and

4 complete a patient-provider agreement with each

5 patient.

6 Pharmacies have very similar education and

7 knowledge assessment requirements. They must

8 provide patients with a medication guide with each

9 prescription. Pharmacies actually -- it says here

10 on the slide -- passively enrolls the patient. In

11 this program, the pharmacies enroll patients into

12 the program upon their initial prescription as long

13 as the prescriber is enrolled. They're given a

14 10-day window that allow the patient to receive the

15 TIRF product prior to the REMS system receiving

16 that patient-provider agreement form and officially

17 enrolling in the program.

18 In the TIRF REMS system, slightly different

19 from in the iPLEDGE program, the pharmacies obtain

20 this authorization to dispense by using the claims

21 adjudication system. So this is different from the

22 iPLEDGE system. This authorization occurs within

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1 the normal flow of their work, and this also occurs

2 before any sort of insurance adjudication.

3 However, pharmacies operating under closed

4 system health plans, such as the VA and the DoD and

5 some other large managed care health systems that

6 don't use the claims adjudication system, they have

7 to actually phone or fax in the REMS system in

8 order to get approval for dispensing.

9 Finally, it's with the iPLEDGE program

10 patients are required to sign a patient-provider

11 agreement form as a safe-use condition. In this

12 form they are acknowledging that they understand

13 the risks, proper use, and safe storage and

14 disposal of the TIRFs.

15 This is a lot of information. Proposal for

16 an opioid analgesic REMS that focuses solely on

17 prescriber education is similar -- maybe, I'm not

18 going to say a bit simpler, but it may appear to

19 be. Prescribers would complete training and a

20 knowledge assessment and enroll in the REMS.

21 The same would happen for the pharmacies.

22 The pharmacist would obtain authorization to

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1 dispense each prescription. This can be done

2 either way through the claims adjudication system

3 as in the TIRF program, or as in the iPLEDGE

4 program through a separate database. The

5 pharmacists in this program would also hopefully

6 provide the patient with a medication guide or some

7 sort of patient materials.

8 Unlike the TIRF and the iPLEDGE program,

9 this proposal does not include any specific patient

10 requirements, such as a patient-provider agreement

11 form or patient enrollment.

12 Before looking at the potential stakeholders

13 impacted by an opioid analgesic REMS, it's helpful,

14 as I just gave those examples of how those programs

15 operate, to use both of those programs to give some

16 perspective on participation in our programs.

17 The most recently reviewed annual REMS

18 assessment, as well as some IMS data on TIRF

19 prescribing, shows about 8,000 active prescribers,

20 42,000 active pharmacies, 63,000 prescriptions

21 dispensed, and about 4200 newly enrolled patients.

22 From the most recently reviewed annual REMS

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1 assessment for the iPLEDGE program, there were

2 16,000 prescribers, 48,000 pharmacies, 1.3 million

3 prescription authorizations or prescriptions

4 dispensed, and 370,000 patients.

5 In comparison, an opioid analgesic REMS

6 program that would require prescriber training

7 could potentially involve all the DEA registered

8 prescribers, which is currently about 1.5 million

9 prescribers, as many as all of the outpatient

10 pharmacies, which is about 67,000. And despite

11 declining prescriptions for opioid analgesics in

12 the past four years, recent data on prescriptions

13 dispensed showed that there were still 160 million

14 prescriptions dispensed for opioid analgesics in

15 2016.

16 Going back a few years to look at the

17 potential patient impact, we know that in 2014,

18 more than 80 million patients are estimated to have

19 received prescriptions for opioid analgesics. So

20 as you can see, a REMS program that would require

21 all prescribers to complete training prior to

22 dispensing would impact significant numbers of

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1 prescribers, pharmacies, and patients.

2 There are several issues to consider

3 regarding the use of a restrictive REMS that would

4 require training of all opioid prescribers. First,

5 current prescribers of opioid analgesics may choose

6 not to take the training, which I think we've heard

7 that has been alluded to earlier this morning, that

8 that may lead to a decrease in prescribers;

9 although, I think some of the data that we heard

10 this morning in some situations that has not been

11 the case. This may happen, and this may be a

12 positive outcome, however, this may lead to some

13 patients scrambling to find a prescriber to write

14 prescriptions for legitimate pain control needs.

15 As you heard earlier today, several states

16 and some healthcare systems already have

17 educational requirements on pain management and

18 safe use of opioids for their licensed prescribers.

19 A REMS program would duplicate these requirements,

20 and we're not really sure what sort of waivers we

21 could put into place that would waive them of their

22 requirements to participate in a federal program.

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1 A separate REMS database would need to be

2 developed that would duplicate the existing DEA

3 database. And as illustrated on the previous

4 slide, the numbers required to enroll would be

5 several-fold greater than any current REMS program,

6 as well as all of these stakeholders that are

7 required to enroll in the program.

8 We know that the number of manufacturers

9 that would be required to participate is actually

10 more than double what is in the current extended-

11 release and long-acting opioid program. There's

12 roughly 90 total manufacturers that would be

13 involved in this program, and many of these have

14 multiple products. So it would be close to 300

15 products that would be involved in an opioid REMS

16 program.

17 Finally, as outlined in the two-process

18 slides earlier, the implementation operation,

19 maintenance, and evaluation of REMS programs are

20 all controlled by the pharmaceutical industry.

21 Thank you.

22 (Applause.)

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1 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thanks very much.

2 Before we have the last talk of the morning,

3 I just want to re-cap what we've talked about in

4 this whirlwind run-through.

5 Remember the two central goals we have.

6 One, we're interested in understanding your

7 comments about the role of education and the larger

8 federal efforts, so where does education fit in to

9 all of those things? And it's federal educational

10 activities, as well as a comparison against other

11 kinds of activities: state, providers, various

12 other ways of people being educated about the use

13 of opioids.

14 The first part of this morning has been a

15 whirlwind survey, if you will, of some of the

16 various models of education around the use of

17 opioids, and we've learned a lot I think from the

18 speakers that we've heard.

19 Because there are two -- the second thing

20 that we need to have some help with is how to make

21 that federal education as effective as possible,

22 and one particular interest people have had is

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1 mandatory versus voluntary federal education.

2 What we wanted to do is talk a little bit

3 about two at least possible models for mandatory

4 prescriber education. You've just heard one of

5 them, using the REMS authority under the Food,

6 Drug, and Cosmetics Act, something that we've put

7 into place for a couple of systems, so we wanted to

8 give you some details about the impact that that

9 kind of a system has; the kinds, if you will, the

10 efforts that are necessary to put into place one of

11 those and then to sustain it.

12 What we're going to have next is a second

13 potential route to a mandatory education system,

14 and this would be through the Controlled Substances

15 Act, and we're lucky enough to have the DEA here to

16 be talking about their views on prescriber

17 education, too.

18 I think after that, I'm not sure we're going

19 to be able to have time for a lot of questions, but

20 I think this morning we've learned a lot about the

21 possible models for education, and now with these

22 last two talks, a little bit more about some of the

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1 potential challenges in putting into place a

2 federal system.

3 With that, Dr. Arnold, chief of Liaison and

4 Policy Diversion Control Division, Drug Enforcement

5 Administration.

6 Good morning. How are you, sir?

7 Presentation – James Arnold

8 MR. ARNOLD: Good morning, and thank you

9 very much. I am not a doctor. I just wanted to

10 clarify that. My name is Jim Arnold. I'm the

11 chief of the Policy and Liaison Section for the

12 diversion control division, what used to be known

13 as the Office of Drug Control for the DEA at DEA

14 Headquarters in Washington, DC.

15 I travel around the country quite a lot to

16 speak to all kinds of organizations, professional

17 organizations, public organizations, talk to all

18 kinds of medical professions regarding the DEA and

19 our perspective on the opioid epidemic.

20 Do we have my slides available? No, that's

21 not it. That's okay.

22 There's a lot of misunderstanding, and part

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1 of the reason that I wanted to -- that I'm glad

2 that I'm a part of this meeting today, and the next

3 two days, is just to provide some information

4 regarding exactly what the DEA is and what we do.

5 There's a lot of misinformation out there in

6 regards to our authority, in regards to

7 requirements, in regards to all kinds of things and

8 our role in the overall opioid epidemic. So I'm

9 just going to try to give you a little bit of

10 information regarding that role and provide you

11 with some other stuff in regards to our ability to

12 assist in this mandatory prescriber education

13 situation.

14 Our primary mission, our primary

15 responsibility involves the enforcement of the

16 Controlled Substances Act. It was passed in 1970,

17 and that's our primary role, to enforce the

18 Controlled Substances Act. Our primary mission, to

19 prevent, detect, and investigate the diversion of

20 pharmaceutical controlled substances and illicit

21 chemicals that are used to manufacture illegal

22 drugs, and their movement from legitimate channels

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1 on to the street.

2 That's our primary role, but at the same

3 time to make sure there's an adequate and

4 uninterrupted supply of controlled substances to

5 meet legitimate medical and research needs.

6 So we kind of have a dual role in regards to

7 the Controlled Substances Act in regard to

8 controlled substances, and that's our primary

9 mission. We have this enforcement component, and

10 we have this other component, which allows for the

11 legitimate practice of medicine.

12 I would like to just share that with people,

13 so people understand that, basically, we're not

14 here to interfere with the legitimate practice of

15 medicine. It's not our role. And I want to make

16 sure that I make that very clear, the legitimate

17 practice of medicine.

18 It is our role to interfere with those

19 individuals, those medical professionals, those

20 organizations, those individuals that are engaged

21 in improper, illegal behavior with controlled

22 substances.

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1 The situations that we deal with and we come

2 in contact with -- doctors, pharmacies, drug

3 houses, distributers, you name it, researchers,

4 we've had it, nurses, all kinds of situations where

5 this kind of diversion activity takes place -- the

6 kind of things that we see are those situations

7 that are truly, truly bad and are large scale.

8 That's what we get involved in.

9 Like I said, once again -- and you're

10 probably going to get tired of hearing me saying

11 this -- we're not here to interfere with the

12 legitimate practice of medicine. That's not what

13 we're about and that's not what we do.

14 The one thing, the main thing that I want to

15 share with you this morning, and the one thing I

16 always try to share with all medical professions,

17 whoever I'm speaking to in the room, is this,

18 21 CFR 1306.4.

19 As long as the prescription is being written

20 for a legitimate medical need by an individual

21 practitioner who's acting in a usual course of

22 professional practice, you are good to go. Once

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1 again, legitimate medicine versus those individuals

2 who are involved in outright illegal behavior with

3 controlled substances. That's what we're all

4 about, and that's what's going on.

5 This is the one thing. This is the most

6 important thing in terms of sharing with you today

7 what we're all about, legitimate medicine,

8 legitimate medical purpose. The individuals, the

9 doctors that we conduct surveillance on, that we

10 conduct undercover buys on, these are people, that

11 I could sit here and regale you with stories all

12 day long about what goes on there and what happens

13 in terms of physicians, in terms of pharmacies, and

14 what kind of improper behavior that they engage in.

15 Most individuals do the right thing. Most

16 individuals engage, and do the right thing, and

17 engage in proper behavior with controlled

18 substances. But unfortunately, we have a small

19 percentage of the population, of registrant

20 population -- remember, we have 1.6 million DEA

21 registrants, all those entities, authorities,

22 businesses that are registered with the DEA to

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1 handle controlled substances. Of that amount,

2 there's approximately 1.5 million prescribing

3 practitioners. That includes mid-level

4 practitioners.

5 Of that amount, like I said, there's a very,

6 very small percentage that creates about this much

7 of our problem, and that is unfortunate. It gives

8 a bad name to everybody, and these are

9 basically -- whether you want to believe me or not,

10 these are individuals who are basically drug

11 dealers in white coats. That is the facts. That's

12 what we see. These things, unless you see it on a

13 day-by-day basis and unless you see it from our

14 perspective and see what we're engaged in and the

15 battle that we wage on a day-to-day basis, this is

16 the kind of activity that we see and what we're

17 involved in.

18 So once again, legitimate medical need by a

19 doctor who's acting the usual course of

20 professional practice. That's a high standard to

21 disprove that a doctor's not engaging in that kind

22 of proper behavior. There are all kinds of hoops

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1 you have to jump through in terms of the legal

2 system in order to prove that a doctor is behaving

3 inappropriately and outright illegally in terms of

4 illegal distribution. So it's a whole different

5 thing.

6 Our solutions to the problem. We're not

7 going to arrest our way out of this situation or

8 our problem. We're not going to arrest our way out

9 of it. We realize that, and I think everybody in

10 this room realizes that. Our problems are so

11 important, and everybody in this room, we need to

12 all be working together. There are so many

13 entities and so many organizations and professional

14 organizations, public organizations, citizens

15 groups that are working together to attack this

16 epidemic, and it is an epidemic. It's unfortunate,

17 but it is an epidemic.

18 Like I said, it's going to take everybody

19 working together to attack this problem, and it's a

20 horrendous, horrendous problem that destroys

21 individual lives, it destroys individual families,

22 that destroys all kinds of things for an

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1 individual.

2 We need prevention. There's no doubt about

3 that whatsoever. We need to be out there talking

4 to people, educating people. We need education.

5 It's so, so important educating people, and not

6 only on the proper prescribing of controlled

7 substances but also teaching our young people about

8 controlled substances and about how it affects

9 their brain, and how it changes their brain

10 physically, and that this is something that

11 happens, and it's just not something made up, and

12 that these opioids are not safe, and once believed

13 by the medical community that these opioids were

14 safe for administering, were safe for delivering to

15 a patient for the treatment of pain and other

16 things.

17 Treatment is so important. We need

18 treatment. There's no doubt about that whatsoever.

19 That's an important component of this overall

20 epidemic and this problem.

21 Enforcement. There's no doubt whatsoever

22 that we need enforcement as well. On a national,

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1 and on a state, and on a local level, there are all

2 kinds of entities engaged in illegal practices and

3 illegal activities with opioid drugs and with other

4 controlled substances.

5 We need to get the bad actors off the

6 street. Unfortunately, they give all the doctors

7 in this room and all the medical professionals, all

8 the health professional in this room a bad name.

9 And these are people who outright, like I

10 said -- and you just have to believe me and

11 understand how we see it on a day-to-day basis and

12 what we are engaged in.

13 We're talking about doctors who are seeing

14 patients at Starbucks and writing prescriptions for

15 patients at Starbucks after hours. We're talking

16 about doctors who you go into their waiting room

17 and there's no furniture in the room, and all you

18 have is a bunch of people sitting around waiting to

19 see the doctor.

20 You have doctors where those individuals in

21 that waiting room, with no furniture in the waiting

22 room, are going in to see the doctor and are back

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1 out in less than 10 minutes with three

2 prescriptions for controlled substances. Usually

3 that involves a narcotic, a benzodiazepine, and

4 another item in combination.

5 That kind of activity is not necessarily for

6 legitimate medical need. That's the kind of thing

7 that we're looking at, and that's the kind of thing

8 that we're after; not here to interfere with

9 legitimate medical need.

10 I hear stories every day. I get the phone

11 calls every day from the public, from everybody

12 regarding my doctor says this, my pharmacy says

13 that, he says DEA says this. And I have to tell

14 them over-and-over again, we're not involved in

15 legitimate practice of medicine. I could do this

16 in my sleep, and it's unfortunate.

17 I've heard horrendous stories about

18 individuals in chronic pain, and have been run over

19 by cars and dragged a quarter of a mile down the

20 road, and who have had four back operations. I've

21 heard horrendous stories about this thing. Like I

22 said, legitimate pain and addiction, and how you

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1 handle that, and how you determine that, and how

2 you deal with that, it must be an awful difficult

3 job. I can only imagine. So that's what it's all

4 about.

5 The DEA supports and encourages prescriber

6 education in any form. We support it totally, that

7 it may be required by federal or state law in

8 regulation. Everybody has the opinion that DEA has

9 more power than we actually do. We only have the

10 power that comes with the Controlled Substances

11 Act.

12 Basically what the Controlled Substances Act

13 says is that if a person's applying for a

14 registration to be a medical doctor, that unless

15 there's some sort of lack of state license of state

16 authority as far as a medical license is concerned

17 or a particular controlled substance license,

18 there's a felony conviction for controlled

19 substances, there's a Medicaid Medicare conviction,

20 and there are other reasons. It says you have to

21 give them a registration. That's what the law

22 says. This would probably take, most likely, an

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1 act of Congress in order to give us this authority

2 to be able to do this.

3 We have the ability to set up already, to

4 assist in this prescriber education, however, that

5 might show itself or offer itself. We have that

6 ability. But like I said, we could not mandate it

7 at this point, but we would be more than willing to

8 participate if so directed.

9 I want to thank you for the opportunity to

10 be here, and hopefully I will be around for the

11 next few days. Feel free to come up and ask me any

12 questions that you would like to. Thank you.

13 (Applause.)

14 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you. I think in

15 the interest of time to make sure that everybody

16 gets a chance to have lunch, we're going to break

17 now. Come back at 1:00, and we'll start with the

18 open public hearing at that point. Thanks very

19 much.

20 (Whereupon, at 12:07, a lunch recess was

21 taken )

22

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1 A F T E R N O O N S E S S I O N

2 (1:10 p.m.)

3 DR. THROCKMORTON: If everybody could sit

4 down, we'll get started with the first open public

5 hearing. Dr. Kahn?

6 Open Public Hearing

7 DR. KAHN: Thanks. Norman Kahn, convener of

8 the Conjoint Committee on Continuing Education.

9 It's 26 organizations in medicines, pharmacy,

10 dentistry, physician assistants, and nurse

11 practitioners. Our goal is to voluntarily educate

12 clinicians in opioid REMS. We are the educational

13 partners of the FDA and of the RPC.

14 You heard from Claudia Manzo earlier on some

15 of the data that's most recent, so I won't repeat

16 that. The real issue today is about the role of

17 continuing education. I'm going to make a couple

18 of points about mandatory continuing education.

19 I think if our goal is to have more people

20 complete the training, then mandatory education

21 would do that. If the goal is the goal that the

22 FDA stated on July 12, 2012, which is "The goal of

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1 REMS is to reduce serious adverse outcomes

2 resulting from inappropriate prescribing," then we

3 have a suggestion that there might be a better way

4 to achieve that goal than simply mandatory

5 continuing education.

6 We did some literature reviews on the

7 evidence. The nurses did a wonderful study; it was

8 published in 2003. I'll give you the highlight on

9 that one.

10 Nurses with a CE mandate attended more hours

11 of CE unrelated to their work or interests because

12 they had to go to CE on what they were mandated to

13 do. The American College of Physicians did a

14 literature review and the physician community and

15 found that the evidence was pretty good, that CE

16 improves knowledge, skills, and attitudes. But

17 there was no evidence that CE improved patient

18 outcomes, and the evidence for improving practice

19 behavior was self-reported.

20 Mandatory CE, on the other hand, was

21 perceived as a burden. Thirteen percent of the

22 clinicians involved in this study said, if you make

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1 it mandatory, I'm not going to prescribe. The risk

2 is that those are people that are not in big

3 systems that can support them. That was part of my

4 question this morning.

5 There are a couple of system recommendations

6 that we'd like to call our attention to. We

7 started to hear from one this morning, actually two

8 of them, from the VA.

9 The VA system has four strategies that we

10 need to take into consideration. One is education,

11 both prescribers and teams -- we've been educating

12 teams from the beginning -- academic detailing by

13 pharmacists in the clinics, at the practice site;

14 pain management team management; risk mitigation

15 dashboards -- they use a tool called STORM so that

16 clinicians have access to all of the data on their

17 performance at any one time -- and a system-wide

18 focus on addiction treatment.

19 Similarly, the University of Washington in

20 Seattle has a multi-pronged approach with

21 controlled substances agreements, urine testing,

22 prescription drug monitoring programs, consultation

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1 on difficult cases, again pharmacists in the

2 clinic, access to specialists, and use of the MAT

3 program.

4 So in summary, if our goal is simply to get

5 more people educated, we could certainly make it

6 mandatory. If the goal is to reduce adverse

7 outcomes, I think we should -- and we think that we

8 should -- look at the VA, we should look at Kaiser,

9 we should look at the University of Washington for

10 systems in which education is integrated into the

11 practice with support.

12 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you very much.

13 Thomas Sullivan?

14 MR. SULLIVAN: Hi. I'm Thomas Sullivan.

15 I'm founder and president of Rockpointe, a medical

16 education company. We've recently implemented an

17 ER/LA opioids REM and education series of live

18 educational sessions at regional pain management

19 programs, following the FDA blueprint. The views I

20 express here are my own opinions.

21 I'd first like to thank the FDA for seeing

22 continuing education and provider training as a

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1 valuable tool for fighting and controlling the

2 opioid crisis, while remaining cognizant of the

3 needs of pain patients to have access to therapies

4 and help them overcome and live with their pain.

5 During our program, we looked at the

6 outcomes for our educational series, and we saw

7 that 33.7 percent were more likely to practice

8 evidence-based medicine for the 54,000 patients

9 seen by each of them each month.

10 Analysis of the specific outcomes showed the

11 following further activities: 37 percent were more

12 likely to recognize that physicians should counsel

13 caregivers and patients to dispose of unused

14 opioids; 30 percent were more likely to recognize

15 that equianalgesics tables suggest relative opioid

16 potencies; 28 percent were more likely to recognize

17 that opioid tolerance depends on the drug and

18 duration of exposure when considering dosing and

19 need for discontinued use; and 22 percent were more

20 likely to understand that while converting patients

21 from one ER opioid to another, the new ER/LA

22 opioids should be started at lower doses or dosed

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1 as if the patient is opioid-naïve.

2 We've also had other significant competence

3 improvements in things like monitoring patients on

4 opioids, methadone's initiation, toxicity, and

5 which opioid analgesics is influenced by the P450

6 cytochrome system.

7 We believe that educating clinicians on

8 safety and profiles of opioids, along with the six

9 domains of the FDA blueprints, remains a priority.

10 But despite the successes of these programs, there

11 are several areas which I think need to be

12 improved.

13 First, although it's controversial in the

14 medical community, I recommend the DEA issue

15 licenses required for prescribing controlled

16 substances be linked to prescriber education. This

17 includes courses and tests to ensure competency.

18 Medical schools offer very little education on pain

19 and addiction management, and physicians should be

20 made fully aware of the proper usage and safe

21 profiles of opioid drugs prior to writing

22 prescriptions for them.

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1 In America, we require education for testing

2 for driver's license, handguns, and lifeguards at

3 our local pools have to study and take a test to be

4 certified. A model to follow may be the advanced

5 cardiac life support certification for the American

6 Heart Association, which many clinicians, nurses,

7 and first responders take to enhance their skills

8 in emergency cardiac treatment. It would be safe

9 to say that opioid prescribers would benefit from

10 education and certification.

11 REMS should be expanded to include all

12 opioids, which you have stated. After reviewing

13 the Maryland opioid death certificates for

14 prescriptions, opioid deaths have remained

15 relatively the same from 2011 to 2015, from 342 to

16 351, respectively. And at the same time, deaths

17 from fentanyl has increased 12-fold from 26 deaths

18 to 340 deaths, and heroin deaths have tripled from

19 238 to 748.

20 Healthcare providers need significant

21 education to understand how to fight this epidemic,

22 and I think you need to think about expanding it

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1 from just opioids, but to also these other parts,

2 and require that patients prescribed opioids are

3 aware of all their options, including NSAIDs and

4 physical therapy.

5 If a patient is prescribed an opioid, they

6 should be required to watch a short patient

7 education video similar to the videos offered by

8 the University of California Davis and Irvine,

9 which describe the risks of opioids. Also,

10 patients should be sent home with

11 easy-to-understand literature on opioid therapy for

12 them and their families to review.

13 A further step should be taken to offer

14 education and counseling to clinicians who write

15 more than 10 opioid scripts per month near zip

16 codes where opioid-related deaths are happening.

17 The goal of this education is to reduce overdoses

18 in those areas. Also, a prescription for naloxone

19 or similar antidotes should be included, at least

20 yearly, with all opioid prescriptions.

21 Finally, I'd be remiss if I did not address

22 the fact that continuing education alone is

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1 unlikely to be enough to fully impact our pain

2 management and abuse problems. Several system

3 changes are needed, including more comprehensive

4 pain and addiction management education in medical,

5 nursing schools, and pharmacy schools and increased

6 government and private insurance coverage for other

7 treatment modalities -- as we know, they're not

8 covering alternative therapies including

9 acupuncture, chiropractor, and complementary

10 treatments -- and less stigma and punitive

11 approaches toward pain sufferers and prescribed

12 clinicians than is currently seen in other

13 government agencies.

14 The FDA should also refrain from scaring the

15 public on the dangers of NSAIDs and Cox-2 inhibitor

16 use, as one has to consider the opioids are the

17 alternative therapy. The FDA should also give

18 priority review for new alternative, non-addictive

19 pain treatments.

20 DR. THROCKMORTON: Dr. Sullivan, would you

21 like to summarize, please?

22 DR. SULLIVAN: Yes, I'm summarizing right

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1 now.

2 Anyway, I make these recommendations. I

3 think you should consider them. Thank you.

4 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you.

5 Cynthia Kerr [ph], Kear?

6 MS. KEAR: Kear. That's good.

7 Thank you very much for the opportunity to

8 speak. I'm with CO*RE. As I said earlier, CO*RE's

9 about 11 organizations representing over 700,000 of

10 the targeted learners, and that's not inclusive of

11 Medscape, which brings considerable heft in terms

12 of our reach.

13 We've been doing this work since 2010.

14 We've had about 600 activities in four years.

15 Probably about 90 percent of those are live; the

16 rest of them are online. We've generated close to

17 200,000 targeted learners, and probably when you

18 throw in nurses and PharmDs, whom we consider very

19 important audiences, we're probably about 280,000.

20 I just want to make a couple of comments.

21 We are not an advocacy group. We agree only to

22 come together as an educational collaboration

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1 because we have difference of opinions as to

2 whether or not education should be mandatory.

3 That being said, I'd like to just say that

4 should this go forward and be mandatory, there

5 would be a couple of considerations that all of the

6 members of CO*RE would really want attention to be

7 paid to.

8 One is a consideration for all past

9 learners. We have a fair number. You saw the

10 numbers yourself. So we wouldn't want to offend

11 those people; somehow figuring a way to get those

12 people into the system to give them credit.

13 Secondly, we would urge great attention to a

14 database, a common single database, that would be

15 created, that would be streamlined, that would be

16 standardized that all the grantees or anybody who

17 was participating in would enter common. Right

18 now, the database and the data information is

19 different, and it makes the process somewhat

20 challenging.

21 We would suggest that you include patients

22 somehow, all or some of the other REMS. It's very

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1 appropriate for them to sign/co-sign a patient

2 prescriber agreement. We think that that is an

3 important element. They need to have a seat at the

4 table and to feel some accountability in this

5 process.

6 Lastly, I would say that we urge

7 consideration for a test out in the past. We would

8 like to bring that issue up again. We know that

9 many of our learners and many of our organizations

10 really support it, and we think that it would be an

11 efficient way to reach greater numbers of people

12 and allow them yet another option in terms of

13 engaging with this educational process.

14 I would also suggest, to reiterate what I

15 said this morning, if this were to become mandatory

16 to really closely coordinate with the states, so

17 that we can streamline those opportunities and

18 maximize them. I know that that would be probably

19 a bear event and activity, but it would really be

20 worthwhile, and standardizing content would

21 probably be a good way to start.

22 One of the things I think, mandatory or not

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1 mandatory, is a slight problem with this REMS is

2 that we suffer -- all the stakeholders suffer from

3 lack of a really coordinated, high-impact awareness

4 campaign, and I would really continue to urge that

5 as well.

6 The last thing that I'd like to say is just

7 that education alone is not going to do it. Our

8 learners continue to report that barriers remain.

9 And the barriers to integrating this into workflow,

10 into being more successful with this, the top two

11 that continue to be problems are access to

12 specialists, be they addiction or pain specialists,

13 is a real problem. And the second one is

14 reimbursement is not always there for non-

15 pharmacologic or even for other types of

16 modalities. Thanks very much.

17 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you.

18 Eunan Maguire?

19 MR. MAGUIRE: Hello. My name is Eunan

20 Maguire, and I'm the chief operating officer of

21 Adapt Pharma. We developed and distribute Narcan

22 nasal spray, which is the most commonly prescribed

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1 FDA-approved, community-used naloxone. The product

2 is affordably priced, and that is critical to

3 ensuring expanded access.

4 My comments today relate to efforts to

5 increase naloxone co-prescribing alongside

6 high-risk opioid prescriptions or situations. As

7 we know, prescription opioids are involved in the

8 majority of opioid overdose deaths, and many people

9 who use illicit opioids have previously misused

10 prescription opioids. There's widespread support

11 for co-prescribing from the community and medical

12 societies, and from HHS.

13 Co-prescribing provides a systematic means

14 of targeting naloxone at the highest-risk opioid

15 prescriptions or situations. It's also a concrete

16 step around which to have a safe-use discussion

17 between the provider and the patient, and I think

18 Fred Brason spoke to that earlier on.

19 The challenge is not a lack of support for

20 co-prescribing, but how to implement it. The

21 current system is an opt-in system where

22 co-prescribing is recommended or encouraged by many

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1 people, but not required.

2 The opt-in approach has delivered an

3 increase in naloxone prescribed in the past year,

4 but there is still only one naloxone prescription

5 for every 1,000 opioid prescriptions. We believe

6 far greater levels of naloxone prescribing are

7 necessary to impact the death rate.

8 We welcome the draft revised medication

9 blueprint and the naloxone co-prescribing

10 references therein. We've also petitioned FDA to

11 introduce naloxone prescribing alongside high-risk

12 opioids as a condition of safe use of those

13 opioids, using an ETASU or an element to ensure

14 safe use.

15 We can look to state experiences to see the

16 impact a requirement can have. Two state medical

17 boards, Virginia and Vermont, have or will shortly

18 implement a naloxone co-prescribing requirement,

19 and we heard of the naloxone prescribing initiative

20 in New Mexico this morning.

21 In the six weeks following Virginia's rule

22 changes in March 2017, naloxone prescriptions

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1 increased 11-fold, and they now account for 1 in 4

2 of the prescriptions in the nation. Vermont will

3 implement a similar policy in July.

4 So these state efforts are very encouraging

5 in expanding access. We support mandatory training

6 with the draft revised blueprint, and we continue

7 to advocate that a naloxone co-prescribing ETASU be

8 added to the opioid REMS. Thank you.

9 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you.

10 Katherine Cates-Wessel?

11 MS. CATES-WESSEL: Thank you very much for

12 this opportunity. I am presenting on behalf of the

13 American Academy of Addiction Psychiatry, an

14 organization that is a leading source in

15 translating the latest evidence-based research into

16 clinical practices for substance-use disorders and

17 co-occurring mental disorders.

18 AAAP seeks to assure that research findings

19 are applied throughout clinical practice and in the

20 training of health professionals. Research

21 demonstrates that 70 percent of individuals with

22 substance-use disorders also have a co-occurring

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1 mental disorder.

2 While emerging evidence also reveals a

3 significant number of prescription opioid deaths

4 are suicidal in intent, rarely is mental health

5 mentioned. In fact, a 2015 report from a national

6 surveillance database of poison control centers

7 from 2006 to 2013 noted an alarming 75 percent of

8 prescription opioid-related deaths occurred with

9 suicidal intent. The percentage rises to

10 86 percent in individuals 60 and older.

11 This is all the more alarming, as these

12 statistics are glaringly absent from the public

13 discourse regarding opioid risk. We strongly

14 advocate that all prescribers and other health

15 professionals have adequate training for screening

16 mental disorders and substance-use disorders, as

17 well as the risk for self-harm and suicide. This

18 is vital to ensuring that health professionals have

19 the necessary information and skills to avoid

20 further opportunities for overdose and addiction.

21 With the rising number of opioid-related

22 overdoses, training for opioid analgesic

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1 prescribers should also include a recommendation

2 for naloxone and outline steps to direct an

3 individual to a psychiatric evaluation and

4 appropriate treatment following an overdose.

5 Screening for mental and substance-use

6 disorders as risk factors is imperative and will

7 contribute significantly to addressing the misuse

8 of opioids. It is important to note that

9 prescribers should not deny opioid treatment if

10 deemed appropriate, but should have enhanced safety

11 practices in place and carefully monitor the

12 patient's response to treatment.

13 Patients with a family history of

14 substance-use disorders and/or mental disorders are

15 at particularly high risk for addiction and

16 overdose. Therefore, recommended monitoring

17 practices should include a reassessment at regular

18 intervals and call backs for pill counts and

19 toxicology throughout their continuum of care.

20 In the spirit of best practice and overdose

21 suicide prevention, AAAP is working collaboratively

22 with a major primary care and addiction

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1 professional organizations and key stakeholders,

2 many who are represented here today; too many to

3 mention.

4 We collectively represent over one million

5 health professionals forming two coalitions called

6 Providers Clinical Support System for

7 Medication-Assisted Treatment and Providers

8 Clinical Support System for Opioid Therapies,

9 looking at the interface of chronic pain and opioid

10 use disorders. Both projects are funded by SAMHSA.

11 The goal is to provide evidence-based

12 training; clinical coaching for prevention,

13 identification, and treatment of opioid use

14 disorders; treatment of pain, substance-use

15 disorders and co-occurring mental disorders, all at

16 no cost. Thus far, we have trained close to 80,000

17 health professionals. We've created over 400

18 online courses and webinars, and we provide free

19 clinical coaching and support.

20 We recognize that more is needed beyond only

21 training the individual prescribers and a response.

22 We're working in five pilot states to provide

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1 clinical settings with technical assistance in how

2 to create a system of care for implementation of

3 evidence-based practices, focusing on MAT for

4 opioid use disorders in a primary care setting.

5 We're releasing the 24-hour MAT waiver for

6 nurse practitioners in PA, at no cost, and just

7 released 14 new modules on chronic pain. AAAP has

8 been working with other initiatives in the era of

9 prescriber education, such as the AMA opioid task

10 force and others.

11 We're committed to providing the education

12 and training for all health professionals in

13 evidence-based practices, but more needs to be

14 done. It's clear that medication-assisted

15 treatment is essential in reducing opioid use

16 disorder, morbidity, and mortality, but access to

17 care is a continuing problem, as is workforce

18 shortage, which is why we are providing education

19 and training free, as well as advocacy on this

20 front.

21 In summary, AAAP strongly recommends

22 expansion of the current opioid analgesic

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1 prescriber training to include other health

2 professionals as well, and to include key

3 information regarding the risk of prescribing

4 opioid medication; in addition, the importance of

5 thorough and longitudinal mental health and

6 substance-use screening and simultaneous mental

7 health and addiction treatment when needed.

8 We urge the FDA to assist in removing

9 barriers to access to evidence-based treatment, not

10 just treatment, to support novel and effective

11 alternative pain management strategies and to

12 understand that opioid prescribing will remain a

13 necessity for many who are severely disabled by

14 chronic pain.

15 Lastly, please do not leave mental health

16 out, as most often it is at the core of the problem

17 for many.

18 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you.

19 Richard Lawhern?

20 MR. LAWHERN: Good afternoon. I am Richard

21 Lawhern, known to my friends as "Red". For the

22 past 21 years, I've supported chronic neurologic

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1 face-ain patients and others, as a non-physician

2 research analyst, writer, and moderator for

3 peer-to-peer online groups. I daily interact with

4 Facebook forums in which the membership is over

5 20,000 patients and family members. I have no

6 financial conflicts of interest.

7 To begin this short presentation, I would

8 draw the attention of the members in front to the

9 fact that at present, millions of people either

10 hyper metabolize or poorly metabolize opioid

11 medications. This is due to variations in what is

12 called the CYP2D6 genotype.

13 As a direct consequence of this reality in

14 the patient population, there can be no universally

15 applicable threshold of risk in MMED. Tens of

16 thousands of patients are now stably maintained

17 with zero opioid addiction risk on dose levels

18 exceeding 200 MMED or even 400 MMED, and there are

19 case reports of patients maintained stably on

20 2500 MMED. If you deny these people opioid

21 therapy, you might as well shoot them because you

22 will be killing them.

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1 Beyond that, I wish to convey a message from

2 those whom I support. Some FDA participants may

3 find this a bit jarring, but if you're truly

4 concerned with the patient safety, then the first

5 thing you can do in this organization is to adjourn

6 without disseminating one more guideline.

7 This is true because the CDC guidelines on

8 opioid prescription are egregiously incomplete,

9 scientifically ill-supported, and are extremely

10 damaging to patient interests. The document, as it

11 has been issued last March, is desperately flawed.

12 It needs to be taken down, retracted, and done over

13 from scratch.

14 Since the CDC released its guidelines, tens

15 of thousands of patients have been summarily

16 discharged without referral. Many have been denied

17 medical care, and some have been deserted in opioid

18 withdrawal. Many more have been arbitrarily

19 tapered down from opioids, which have been

20 effective and safe for them for years; plunged into

21 agony and disability, losing whatever quality of

22 life they had. Suicides due to unbearable pain

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1 have occurred in numbers, and you may anticipate

2 more. We are seeing evidence of that every day in

3 social media.

4 Doctors are now leaving practice in part

5 because they fear a campaign of extra judicial

6 persecution by the DEA. DEA regularly seizes

7 patient medical records before filing indictments,

8 and then prolongs legal action for years in a

9 knowing attempt to bankrupt the practitioner or

10 bludgeon them into a consent decree. This is

11 something widely understood and widely accepted by

12 tens of thousands of people who have been affected.

13 I will conclude my remarks with three

14 references, and I will provide my comments as

15 written. The three references, two of which I

16 wrote, are respectively, The CDC's Fictitious

17 Opioid Epidemic, Parts 1 and 2 published by the

18 Journal of Medicine of the National College of

19 Physicians; and the third is useful and deeply

20 referenced, the title is Neat, Plausible, and

21 Generally Wrong: A Response to the CDC's

22 Recommendations for Chronic Opioid Use by

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1 Stephen A. Martin, MD, Ruth A. Potee, MD and DABAM,

2 and Andrew Lazris, MD. This concludes my remarks.

3 You may have a copy.

4 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you very much.

5 Laura Wooster?

6 MS. WOOSTER: Good afternoon. I'm Laura

7 Wooster, senior vice president of public policy

8 with the American Osteopathic Association. I speak

9 today on behalf of the AOA's more than 129,000

10 osteopathic physicians and osteopathic medical

11 students that we represent.

12 The AOA takes very seriously our nation's

13 opioid epidemic and the public health emergency

14 that it represents. Over the past years, we have

15 worked tremendously hard to mitigate its impacts

16 through efforts to educate our providers, including

17 being a member of the CO*RE REMS collaborative,

18 that we've heard about several times today; a

19 founding partner along with the AMA and the ADA of

20 the White House HHS Working Group on Opioids that

21 started work in 2015; as well as the Office of the

22 Surgeon General's Turn the Tide Rx Campaign.

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1 We're a member of the National Association

2 of Boards of Pharmacies Work Group to address

3 opioid abuse, misuse, and diversion. As well, 22

4 of our colleges of osteopathic medicine last year

5 committed to including opioid prescriber education

6 based on the CDC guideline in their curricula.

7 I speak today to emphasize that we support

8 any efforts by the FDA to further expand

9 opportunities for prescribers to be educated on

10 safe opioid prescribing practices and to better

11 identify those who are at risk of developing

12 substance-use disorders who may already have opioid

13 substance-use disorders.

14 We urge the FDA, though, to approach with

15 caution imposing any new mandates on prescribers.

16 As we heard this morning, many states are already

17 requiring physicians to complete CME-related to

18 opioid prescribing and/or are implementing new

19 guidelines that provide physicians with the tools

20 to prescribe opioids safely and appropriately.

21 Physicians already face significant and

22 growing administrative burdens that continue to

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1 shorten the time they have available to spend with

2 their patients. We are concerned that adding new

3 mandates would further cut into that time that

4 could instead be devoted to understanding

5 individual patient needs and developing a

6 personalized care plan that can better address

7 their unique situation and therefore improve their

8 ability to treat the underlying cause of their

9 patient's pain, including with non-pharmacological

10 modalities such as osteopathic manipulative

11 treatment when appropriate.

12 We therefore encourage the FDA to move

13 beyond educating providers on how to prescribe

14 opioids themselves and to broaden educational

15 materials to include other pain management

16 approaches. Thank you.

17 DR. THROCKMORTON: Clif Knight?

18 DR. KNIGHT: Thank you.

19 Good afternoon. My name's Clif Knight. I'm

20 a family physician and serve as the senior vice

21 president for education for the American Academy of

22 Family Physicians, and I'm here on the AAFP's

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1 behalf.

2 I appreciate this opportunity to testify

3 today. In my role at the AAFP, I oversee all

4 organizational activities related to medical

5 education and continuing medical education. The

6 AAFP represents 129,000 family physicians and

7 medical students.

8 Family medicine plays a critical role in

9 delivering care to patients in communities across

10 the country, and family physicians are the most

11 visited speciality, especially in underserved

12 areas. Family physicians conduct approximately one

13 in five of all physician office visits in the

14 United States, and this represents more than

15 192 million visits annually.

16 A key mission of the AAFP is to protect the

17 health of the public, and we are deeply aware of

18 the critical and devastating problem of

19 prescription drug abuse. At the same time, we need

20 to address the ongoing public health requirement to

21 provide adequate and appropriate pain management.

22 The AAFP supports having programs in all

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1 states for monitoring real-time opioid prescribing.

2 This information should be available across state

3 lines to address the public health problem of

4 prescription drug abuse.

5 Opioid abuse and addiction has become a

6 public health matter that needs to be addressed,

7 and the AAFP recognizes the need for evidence-based

8 physician education to ensure safe and effective

9 use of both extended-release and long-acting

10 opioids, as well as short-acting opioids. But we

11 maintain that mandating CME for individual

12 prescribers is not the solution for this public

13 health crisis. We oppose policies that would

14 require mandatory education of family physicians as

15 a condition for prescribing opioids.

16 Family physicians already are deeply

17 committed to fine tuning their ability to prescribe

18 opioids appropriately and effectively. AAFP

19 members reported completing more than 141,000 CME

20 credits on this topic in 2016.

21 Since then, the AAFP has signed on to a

22 number of related initiatives, including efforts by

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1 the White House, HHS, and other federal agencies to

2 tackle the opioid crisis, in addition to working

3 with the AMA Task Force to reduce opioid abuse.

4 Recognizing the current epidemic late last

5 year, the AAFP updated its Chronic Pain Management

6 and Opioid Misuse, a public health concern position

7 paper, to better equip members to combat the opioid

8 abuse crisis while continuing to treat patients'

9 chronic pain.

10 Additionally, our position paper directs

11 members to our new opioid and pain management

12 toolkit, which practices may use to evaluate their

13 current practices regarding pain management and

14 opioid prescribing.

15 The AAFP opposes limiting patients' access

16 to any physician-prescribed pharmaceutical without

17 cause, as well as any actions that limit

18 physicians' ability to prescribe these products

19 based on medical specialty.

20 The AAFP continues to believe educating

21 physicians is an important tool, but to be

22 impactful, the education must be designed to

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1 address the specific and personalized needs and

2 gaps of the learners. One-size-fits-all education

3 is not optimal. Requiring all physicians or

4 prescribers in this case to complete the same

5 education, regardless of whether or not they

6 actually have a relevant performance gap in this

7 area, would be a disservice to that physician and

8 their patients since it will result in unnecessary

9 time spent away from patient care.

10 The AAFP and our 50-state chapters will

11 continue working together to bring localized and

12 state specific education to our members and their

13 care teams in order to continue to address the

14 nation's current epidemic.

15 Thank you for this opportunity to present,

16 and I'd be happy to answer any questions, and I'll

17 be here today and tomorrow. Thanks.

18 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you.

19 Ilana Hardesty?

20 MS. HARDESTY: Thank you. I'm Ilana

21 Hardesty from Boston University School of Medicine.

22 I serve as the program manager for the longest

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1 running ER/LA opioid analgesics REMS program, the

2 Boston University School of Medicine's safe and

3 competent opioid prescribing education or SCOPE of

4 Pain program.

5 Our case-based FDA blueprint compliant

6 program covers the spectrum of pain management

7 options: self-care, non-pharmacologic and

8 non-opioid treatments, and all opioids including

9 immediate-release formulations.

10 Since our launch over four years ago, we

11 have trained over 70,000 health professionals

12 around the country. Our two-month post-training

13 evaluation, published in the Journal of Pain

14 Medicine, found significant improvements in

15 self-reported opioid prescribing practices that

16 align with guideline-based care.

17 As long as opioids are available for the

18 treatment of pain, training to maximize benefits

19 and minimize harm is critical. Mandatory

20 prescriber education may be required. Our

21 experience in New York, where a recent mandate

22 resulted in our training 30,000 individuals in

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1 11 weeks, would indicate that mandated education

2 can reach large numbers of clinicians in a short

3 period of time.

4 However, we must be cognizant of the

5 potential unintended consequences of

6 federally-mandated education. Such a mandate may

7 lead clinicians to opt out of opioid prescribing,

8 which could result in reduced treatment access for

9 patients who are benefiting from opioid analgesics.

10 There will also be a risk of burnout among

11 the clinicians who opt in, as this is a complicated

12 and time-consuming issue. To be a physician, one

13 must be able to manage pain and suffering. This

14 includes the competent use of opioid analgesics.

15 Prescriber education is an important component of

16 addressing concurrent crises, over prescribing

17 opioids with the associated increases in

18 opioid-related harms, and the ever present

19 inadequate treatment of chronic pain.

20 Prescriber education improves clinician's

21 skills to individualize patient care based on a

22 careful benefit-risk assessment. This is the way

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1 all chronic diseases are managed. Education

2 empowers clinicians to make appropriate, well-

3 informed decisions about whether to initiate,

4 continue, modify, or discontinue any treatment for

5 pain, including opioid analgesics for each

6 individual patient at each clinical encounter. It

7 also improves communication skills to educate

8 patients about realistic treatment goals and safety

9 monitoring strategies.

10 Education has the potential to both reduce

11 opioid overprescribing and ensure that patients in

12 need retain access to opioids. Accredited

13 continuing medical education, such as SCOPE of

14 Pain, ensures unbiased education based on the best,

15 most up-to-date evidence. Thank you.

16 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you.

17 Dr. Passik?

18 DR. PASSIK: Thank you for the opportunity

19 to comment. I'm Steven Passik. I'm vice president

20 of scientific affairs, education, and policy at

21 Collegium Pharmaceuticals. Prior to spending the

22 last four years in industry, I had a 25-year

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1 academic clinical and research career at

2 Vanderbilt, University of Kentucky, and

3 Memorial Sloan-Kettering, focused on cancer and

4 non-cancer pain and their interface with substance

5 abuse.

6 I'm a psychologist trained in pain and

7 addiction and brought my expertise to expert teams,

8 and I can tell you was involved in multimodal

9 opioid therapy for many years with overwhelmingly

10 positive results.

11 Many years ago, Dr. Douglas Gourlay

12 suggested that every prescriber of opioids for

13 chronic pain needed to become a talented amateur in

14 addiction medicine; that is, we needed to create a

15 generation of prescribers knowledgeable enough to

16 perform an individualized assessment of addiction

17 risk; design a unique pain management plan for the

18 delivery of opioid therapy and additional

19 monitoring and supportive interventions; and know

20 how to react to and manage signs of loss of

21 control; and finally, be equally knowledgeable

22 about how to stop opioid therapy as they are

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1 starting it.

2 Much opioid therapy heretofore has no doubt

3 been performed over a course of time, when far too

4 few practitioners ever became trained in performing

5 up to this standard of care.

6 I applaud FDA for holding this meeting,

7 though we must recognize that the task ahead is

8 complex, for in addition to knowledge of opioids,

9 pain and addiction, practitioners will also require

10 education on how to orchestrate a range of practice

11 variables to do this well.

12 Education of practitioners must be

13 accompanied by education of payers and those who

14 influence in how we organize and deliver pain

15 management, so they recognize what safe opioid

16 prescribing looks like and can be expected to cost;

17 because, as I can tell you from my personal

18 experience, even expert teams can have difficulty

19 implementing well-thought-out individualized plans

20 of care when there are many systemic forces

21 mitigating against it.

22 Payers must be required to support and pay

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1 for elements of treatment plans made by those

2 practitioners who ultimately receive any training

3 that we move forward to offer them, and respect

4 that training.

5 Recent attempts to respond to the opioid

6 epidemic have involved regulation over education.

7 These efforts almost always emphasize efforts aimed

8 at limiting the number of opioid exposures that

9 occur, rather than improving the quality of the

10 exposures that we do have. This approach has

11 already started to create difficulties in access to

12 care for those suffering with chronic pain, many of

13 whom were deriving benefit from stable regimens.

14 The irony is that given the multiple

15 advances in the assessment of addiction risk,

16 promising psychotherapeutic approaches, monitoring

17 tools including PDMPs and urine drug testing,

18 give-back programs and abuse-deterrent

19 formulations, there's quite possibly never been a

20 safer time to prescribe an opioid to a person in

21 pain at any point in the last 30 years.

22 Clinicians must be educated and acquire the

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1 skills to use these tools in strategic ways, and

2 the payers must support it. In the end, my

3 colleagues and I at Collegium believe that opioid

4 therapy can be rendered safer when it is conducted

5 by educated prescribers, and we see it as crucial

6 to the future of humane and safe treatment of

7 people with pain. Thank you.

8 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you very much.

9 Ashley Walton.

10 MS. WALTON: Good afternoon. I'm Ashley

11 Walton, and I'm here on behalf of the American

12 Society of Anesthesiologists. On behalf of our

13 52,000 members, I thank you for this opportunity to

14 provide feedback on healthcare provider training

15 and education.

16 As a professional society composed of

17 physician anesthesiologists including pain medicine

18 specialists, the ASA is actively seeking solutions

19 to the epidemic. We are pleased to see a recent

20 decline in opioid prescribing, a 17 percent

21 decrease from 2012 to 2016, yet we realize there is

22 still much to do, both to ensure comprehensive

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1 treatment for patients with pain and to support

2 efforts that reduce opioid overdose deaths.

3 Healthcare provider training can play an

4 important role. First, I'd like to make a brief

5 comment regarding the FDA REMS program. ASA is

6 fully supportive that the REMS program apply to all

7 Schedule 2 opioid products. Although there are

8 several different proposals to address provider

9 education, the ASA feels that the most logical

10 proposal is managed at the state level.

11 For example, linking continuing medical

12 education to state medical board licensure would

13 incentivize physicians to stay up to date on topics

14 such as pain management, opioid prescribing, and

15 addiction treatment. Many states have already

16 begun to implement CME requirements on opioid

17 prescribing in order to maintain a medical license.

18 ASA is encouraged by state-level efforts and

19 believes that this is a better option than any

20 federal mandate.

21 We fear that efforts to link CME to DEA

22 registration could prove problematic. Many

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1 physicians may choose to no longer prescribe

2 controlled substances and therefore not register

3 with DEA. This would significantly reduce the

4 number of physicians willing to manage chronic pain

5 patients for whom opioid medications are the only

6 source of pain relief.

7 Lastly, there are proposals to change

8 medical school curriculum. ASA understands the

9 complexities of medical school curriculum and the

10 large amount of information that must be tailored

11 to a short period of time. Yet, this would provide

12 a great foundation for future physicians early on,

13 introducing pain management including opioid

14 prescribing and addiction training to medical

15 school students just as they are beginning their

16 training is a proposal that could have a big

17 impact.

18 Outside of proposals to specifically address

19 prescriber education, ASA would like to see

20 implementation of the National Pain Strategy come

21 to fruition. The NPS includes steps to encourage

22 education around pain, including encouraging

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1 accreditation bodies and professional licensure

2 boards to require pain teaching and clinician

3 learning at the undergraduate and graduate levels.

4 Thank you for the opportunity to comment on

5 this matter. ASA appreciates the efforts of both

6 FDA and HHS to curtail opioid abuse and misuse

7 through education and training providers. Thank

8 you.

9 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you very much.

10 Linda Cheek?

11 MS. CHEEK: Thank you for this opportunity

12 to speak. My first and main point is to say that

13 drugs are not the cause of abuse and addiction.

14 Correlation does not mean causation. It is like a

15 railroad track, two lines, separate, and this is

16 demonstrated by the fact that in the last five or

17 six years, we have really severely curtailed the

18 prescriptions of opioids, and yet abuse is going up

19 exponentially.

20 The idea of drugs causing abuse or addiction

21 has been government propaganda for a hundred years.

22 Attempts to contain drug abuse through control of

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1 medications has failed for the last 50 years. The

2 definition of insanity is repeating the same action

3 over and over, expecting a different result. We

4 will not succeed in curtailing the opioid epidemic

5 until we realize the real cause of drug abuse.

6 I have a YouTube presentation on that, and

7 for those who did not receive my card, you can

8 simply go to YouTube and search my name, Linda

9 Cheek, and pull up that Real Cause of Drug Abuse.

10 The second point I want to make is that

11 mandatory federal requirements of pain management

12 education is an avenue that the government will use

13 to attack more doctors through government

14 overreach. They have already found out that

15 through their propaganda, they can incarcerate and

16 criminalize innocent physicians for the sole

17 purpose of confiscating their assets.

18 Medical regulation is, by constitutional

19 law, reinforced through the Supreme Court decision

20 under state regulation, and yet the federal

21 government will use whatever inch we give them to

22 take a mile. Do not allow any form of federal

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1 mandatory regulation of opioid prescribing or

2 education.

3 There will be no end to the innocent

4 physicians that will end up in prison for life.

5 Some of you might be next. Just this act of the

6 FDA stating that doctors need training in

7 prescribing opioids shows that the actions of the

8 government criminalizing doctors is action for one

9 reason, and one reason only. Money. All doctors

10 are potential victims.

11 Training for doctors in the past in pain

12 management was absent. You are admitting, through

13 a meeting like this, that you recognize that fact,

14 that pain has been treated for the past 15 years by

15 doctors that are simply doing the best they can

16 with the limited knowledge they have.

17 Pain management training is necessary, but

18 it needs to be based on truth, not propaganda. If

19 there is mandatory management, then there needs to

20 be protection from doctors that say that they

21 cannot be charged criminally, and it should

22 definitely not be a part of the CSA. Thank you.

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1 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you very much.

2 And the last speaker, Kara Gainer.

3 MS. GAINER: Good afternoon. My name is

4 Kara Gainer, and I am providing comments on behalf

5 of the American Physical Therapy Association or

6 APTA. We greatly appreciate the opportunity to

7 provide our input to the FDA and other stakeholders

8 today.

9 I'm here to raise awareness as to how

10 physical therapy is an alternative to opioids for

11 the treatment of acute or chronic pain and the

12 important role physical therapists play in managing

13 pain by administering treatments that include

14 strengthening and flexibility exercises, manual

15 therapy, posture awareness, and body mechanics

16 instruction.

17 As discussions evolve related to what

18 federal effort should be undertaken to support

19 training on pain management and the safe

20 prescribing, dispensing, and patient use of

21 opioids, we encourage you to also consider

22 delegating resources to support training and

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1 education to prescribers or others who are directly

2 involved in the management or support of patients

3 with pain on alternative, non-pharmacologic

4 treatments, and how to recognize when such an

5 alternative therapy is the safer, more effective

6 option for the patient's condition.

7 As you know, the CDC recently released

8 guidelines for prescribing opioids for chronic

9 pain, and in their first recommendation

10 specifically identified non-pharmacologic therapy

11 as the preferred alternative for chronic pain. The

12 CDC made clear that there are better, safer ways to

13 treat chronic pain than the use of opioids,

14 specifically stating that many non-pharmacologic

15 therapies, including physical therapy, are a more

16 effective option.

17 APTA recognizes that in some situations,

18 prescription opioids are an appropriate part of

19 medical treatment. However, there are many

20 instances when an alternative treatment such as

21 physical therapy is more effective. To ensure all

22 treatment options are considered, however,

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1 clinicians must be equipped with the knowledge and

2 resources necessary to be able to examine the

3 variety of treatments for pain that currently are

4 in existence and provide a well-informed

5 recommendation on the best treatment for pain

6 management, specific to the needs of each patient.

7 If clinicians have not been educated on

8 alternative, non-opioid pain management solutions

9 and how such options may suit patients needs,

10 goals, and desires, then alternative treatments

11 such as physical therapy will neither be discussed

12 or offered to patients, not only placing patients

13 at a significant disadvantage during the course of

14 treatment, but at the same time encouraging the

15 over utilization of opioids to treat pain.

16 APTA is committed to raising awareness of

17 the positive effect physical therapy can have on

18 long-term pain management. As part of this effort,

19 last year APTA engaged in a public relations

20 campaign to educate consumers about the opioid

21 epidemic and urged them to choose physical

22 therapy -- hashtag, choosePT -- to manage pain

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1 without the risks of opioids.

2 We strongly recommend that any future

3 training and education provided to prescribers or

4 others who are directly involved in the management

5 or support of patients with pain also include

6 training and education on non-pharmacologic

7 therapies and when such treatment options should be

8 recommended to patients.

9 We thank you for the opportunity to provide

10 comments here today, and we look forward to working

11 together in the future to develop policies and

12 initiate actions to prevent and treat opiate abuse

13 and addiction.

14 DR. THROCKMORTON: Thank you very much.

15 That closes the first public session.

16 Should we transition, Terry, right into your

17 session?

18 MS. TOIGO: Yes.

19 (Pause.)

20 Panel Discussion

21 MS. TOIGO: We'll introduce ourselves,

22 because we've got five questions to cover in 90

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1 minutes. We're not going to do a summary at the

2 end. We're going to do our summary tomorrow. So

3 if we don't get to cover things today that you want

4 to make sure get included in the summary, you can

5 email me those tonight.

6 But that's the plan. We're going to go

7 through. Hopefully, it will be a robust

8 discussion, and we'll look forward to the questions

9 from the panel.

10 So Dr. Terman, do you want to start?

11 DR. TERMAN: Sure. I have an hour and 15

12 minutes to talk; is that right?

13 MS. TOIGO: You do.

14 (Laughter.)

15 MS. TOIGO: And I will politely cut you off

16 if you go too long.

17 DR. TERMAN: You'd like to me to start by

18 introducing --

19 MS. TOIGO: Yes, just very quick, just who

20 you are in one-minute.

21 DR. TERMAN: Got you.

22 I'm Greg Terman. I'm an anesthesiologist

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1 from the University of Washington in Seattle, a

2 professor there in the Department of Anesthesia and

3 Pain Medicine. And I am immediate past president

4 of the American Pain Society.

5 DR. GALLUZZI: I'm Kate Galluzzi. I am an

6 osteopathic physician. I'm the chair of geriatric

7 medicine at the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic

8 Medicine. I'm board certified in family medicine,

9 geriatrics, hospice, and palliative care, and pain

10 management. And I've been a longstanding member of

11 the CO*RE initiative.

12 DR. MOORE: I'm Paul Moore. I am the

13 representative dentist in the house. I am a

14 pharmacologist, dentist, anesthesiologist, have

15 trained in chronic pain management, and I'm from

16 the University of Pittsburgh.

17 MS. BURNS: Good afternoon. I'm the

18 resident pharmacist in the house. My name is Anne

19 Burns, and I'm the vice president of professional

20 affairs at the American Pharmacists Association.

21 DR. WALLER: My name is Corey Waller. I'm

22 an emergency medicine and addiction medicine

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1 physician, and I'm the chair of the Legislative

2 Advocacy Committee for American Society of

3 Addiction Medicine, and work in Camden, New Jersey,

4 doing street medicine, as well as national system

5 development for systems of care.

6 MS. TOIGO: I'm Terry Toigo, and I'm

7 associate director for drug safety operations in

8 the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research at FDA.

9 MS. NORMAN: I'm Anne Norman. I'm a family

10 nurse practitioner. I'm also the vice president of

11 education and accreditation at the American

12 Association of Nurse Practitioners; also a member

13 AANP and also a partner of the CO*RE.

14 MS. LEGER: Good afternoon, everyone. My

15 name is Michele Leger. I'm the director of

16 clinical education at AAPA, and we represent over a

17 115,000 physician assistants. We're also a member

18 of the CO*RE REMS collaborative.

19 DR. HARRIS: Good afternoon. I'm Patrice

20 Harris. I'm chair of the Board of the American

21 Medical Association. I also chair our AMA opioid

22 task force. I'm a psychiatrist from Atlanta,

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1 former public health official, and I also have

2 worked in addiction medicine.

3 DR. TWILLMAN: Good afternoon. I'm Bob

4 Twillman. I'm a psychologist, and I'm the

5 executive director of the Academy of Integrative

6 Pain Management.

7 MS. TOIGO: Okay. Thank you, everyone.

8 Just before we get started, how many in the

9 audience are health professionals? We've got

10 almost everybody represented here.

11 I'm challenged today in speaking. How many

12 in the audience are health professionals?

13 (Show of hands.)

14 MS. TOIGO: Okay. And how many are involved

15 in the education of health professionals?

16 (Show of hands.)

17 MS. TOIGO: Okay. So good mix. So we've

18 got five questions today to talk about related to

19 education and training of health professionals.

20 You can see the first three are related to

21 mandatory training, and the other two are

22 voluntary.

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1 So I'm going to start with the first

2 question, which is discuss the pros and cons of

3 implementing a required training program for the

4 prescribers of opioid analgesics. I'm going to

5 take a risk here and start with Dr. Terman, but he

6 can't have an hour and a half to answer the

7 question.

8 DR. TERMAN: Okay. So as representing the

9 American Pain Society, who we think of ourselves as

10 the science of pain society being a U.S. chapter of

11 the International Association for the Study of

12 Pain, all of our members are in favor of pain

13 training, more pain training, mandatory pain

14 training for anyone doing prescribing, or more

15 importantly, for anyone seeing pain patients, which

16 is likely to be everybody.

17 You want me to go into cons as well?

18 MS. TOIGO: Yes.

19 DR. TERMAN: The cons are clearly if people

20 opt out. As a multidisciplinary society, many of

21 the members in the American Pain Society don't

22 prescribe anything, let alone opioids. The concern

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1 that we have after 40 years of doing this kind of

2 education, multidisciplinary education, trying to

3 wave the flag for better pain management, which

4 only in a small subset of situations include

5 opioids, the concern is we're going to have opt

6 out. We're going to encourage people who opt out

7 to opt out, and that is a huge issue, and it'll be

8 a huge issue for folks in my society.

9 Even the basic scientists who may not think

10 it's going to be a huge issue, we all may have pain

11 in the future, and we want people to be trained to

12 do that in a good way, rather than in a bad way.

13 MS. TOIGO: Who else would like to expand on

14 what Dr. Terman has talked about? Dr. Galluzzi?

15 DR. GALLUZZI: Should we go down the line?

16 DR. TOIGO: Go ahead.

17 DR. GALLUZZI: Okay. I would just like to

18 speak to my agreement with Dr. Terman that pain is

19 a universal experience, and every single person in

20 this room who hasn't experienced pain may yet feel

21 that. Therefore, we as providers need to be able

22 to address it, and address it well and safely.

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1 So of course, pain management education is

2 necessary. The pros for mandating this are that it

3 gives us the potential for developing and

4 implementing best practices. It will give us

5 enhanced understanding, and sharing of the

6 multidisciplinary and multimodal therapies that are

7 available for managing pain. And it may also give

8 us the potential for expansion of patient

9 education, which I think is an area that has been

10 under recognized and under utilized.

11 As an osteopathic physician, I believe in

12 holistic care, and I feel that the patient is at

13 the center of that care, and that the individual

14 who's suffering pain, especially high-impact

15 chronic pain, which is an area of significant

16 impact on quality of life and function, needs to be

17 able to access self-management techniques. And

18 they have to be accessible, they have to be

19 affordable, and they have to be paid for by the

20 payers, the reimbursements.

21 The cons are exactly as Dr. Terman said, and

22 these are huge unintended consequences. The big

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1 one being, of course, that providers will, and

2 already are, opting out of prescribing C2

3 medications.

4 I work at a medical school. I interact with

5 medical residents and family medicine residents

6 routinely, and a number of them have already said,

7 I don't have to worry about this. I'm just not

8 going to prescribe opioids. That is not an option

9 at a time when the population of senior citizens is

10 burgeoning, and it is the largest, most rapidly

11 growing population. Seniors are, of course, the

12 ones who will be having significant chronic high

13 impact pain.

14 I think that if and when mandatory -- and I

15 hope that this is not the case, but if mandatory,

16 education does seems to be the way we're going. It

17 certainly has to be provider specific. Not every

18 discipline requires the same types of education.

19 Of course there's a minimum level of

20 competency, but it has to be specific to the

21 providers. And it clearly needs to involve not

22 only physicians, physician assistants, and nurse

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1 practitioners, but also psychologists, physical

2 therapists, and all the other ancillary personnel

3 who can help with this big problem of pain.

4 MS. TOIGO: Thank you, Dr. Galluzzi.

5 Dr. Moore, do you want to talk a little bit

6 about the dental perspective?

7 DR. MOORE: Well, you just stole my thunder,

8 I think, and that is we have mandatory education in

9 Pennsylvania at this point for safe and responsible

10 use of opioids. And that's required both in the

11 curriculum at dental schools in Pennsylvania, as

12 well as a requirement for re-licensure.

13 So we are mandated, at this point, for

14 education. And whether there's a redundancy in

15 what policies FDA creates, that's an administrative

16 problem.

17 My only comment would be that acute pain,

18 acute inflammatory pain, not neuropathic pain,

19 99.7 percent of our prescriptions are for Vicodin

20 and Percocet for immediate-release analgesics. We

21 are not using opioids to treat chronic pain. And

22 as such, I would hope that education, both by the

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1 state as well as considerations with the FDA,

2 address educational processes that are specific to

3 the needs of the provider. Thank you.

4 MS. TOIGO: Thank you, Dr. Moore.

5 Dr. Burns?

6 MS. BURNS: I would agree with many of the

7 comments that have already been made. From the

8 pharmacists' perspective, we approach this from a

9 very interesting point because as you heard earlier

10 this morning, pharmacists can be prescribers. In

11 some states, pharmacists can prescribe opioids

12 under collaborative practice agreements. They get

13 DEA licenses.

14 Then our members at APHA span the gamut of

15 practice settings and are often on the final

16 endpoint, or at the final endpoint, before the

17 patient leaves with the opioid medication.

18 So the types of education that are needed

19 for pharmacists can be variable, and as was

20 discussed, having education that is tailored for

21 the provider.

22 Then this isn't really education, but trying

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1 to establish better connections between

2 providers -- and we've talked about the team-based

3 approach to care. But oftentimes for pharmacists,

4 they have a lot of medication expertise already.

5 That's where the core of their training is. But

6 they oftentimes don't have the information they

7 need in order to interact with the patient

8 effectively.

9 So the different aspects of training that

10 are needed are quite broad and much more complex

11 than any other required program that is currently

12 being offered through FDA. Those would just be

13 some of I guess our asks and our concerns.

14 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Waller?

15 DR. WALLER: So I'm going to dissent on a

16 few of these things at some level. With the

17 American Society of Addiction Medicine, the vast

18 majority of our members, and me as an emergency

19 medicine doctor, and one who actually works in the

20 streets of Camden, New Jersey, I see the failed

21 attempts at utilization of opioids every single

22 day.

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1 We have to remember the number one cause of

2 injury-related death in this country is related to

3 a controlled substance, and that is overdose. So

4 to just belie that whole fact is a little bit odd

5 to me to hear the most educated people in the

6 country push against education.

7 So if education doesn't work, because that's

8 something that comes up on a regular basis, then I

9 wonder if we should dismantle the requirements

10 within residency programs and just let residents

11 tailor their own pathways to education, or medical

12 students.

13 I mean, the logical fallacies that

14 consistently come up start to become a little bit

15 frustrating as someone who educates medical

16 students on a regular basis.

17 The other fallacy that I worry about in a

18 setting is the one that says, we're going to lose

19 active prescribers if they opt out. Good. I say

20 that because right now would you want someone not

21 willing to take a 2-hour course on opioids who's

22 going to prescribe the most deadly prescribed

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1 substance that we have out there?

2 If they don't want to take 2 hours of extra

3 education, do they really actually manage patients

4 with chronic pain? I don't think they're managing

5 anything. They're managing the electronic medical

6 record and the refill pathway.

7 So I think we have to make sure that what

8 we're asking for is for a loved one who needs that

9 care. And I prescribe opioids as well for chronic

10 pain management, for patients with debilitating

11 diseases, like sickle cell and all of these, and so

12 there are places for it, and then there are places

13 not for it.

14 But without the education, the difference

15 between a physician and a healthcare provider

16 making a decision that saves a life and one that

17 kills someone is the education that they get. So

18 without it, I am concerned that we're going down

19 this pathway that is filled with logical fallacies.

20 MS TOIGO: Okay. Thank you, Dr. Waller.

21 Dr. Norman?

22 MS. NORMAN: I would just say that nurses

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1 and nurse practitioners, and the advanced practice

2 nurse, are lifelong learners. They also

3 historically have been very good patient educators.

4 I think they are very much involved in the learning

5 of what they need to do to provide evidence-based

6 care.

7 I think that the pros would be to encourage

8 and prepare more nurse practitioners to safely

9 prescribe and treat pain, and thereby increasing

10 the access of care for those patients who do need

11 pain management.

12 I think the cons, I would agree with what

13 most people said. But I would say that it's not

14 really about taking the 2 or 3-hour course. It's

15 more about the fear that might be implied by the

16 necessity to have that course, and to have -- I

17 think that they just might begin to think that they

18 were just a little bit frightened by the fear of

19 what might result if they didn't provide the care

20 that they needed to adequately.

21 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Leger?

22 MS. LEGER: It's actually Ms. Leger.

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1 MS. TOIGO: You can be a doctor today.

2 MS. LEGER: I'm speaking on behalf of AAPA,

3 and actually AAPA does not agree with mandated

4 education. Having said that, being in the

5 Department of Education, we are always providing

6 education and education materials to our

7 constituents.

8 One of the concerns that we have is that we

9 don't want people going in taking a course just to

10 fill a box. I think that's doing a disservice to

11 the clinician. It's doing a disservice to the

12 patients. And I think one of the things that we

13 want to be very cognizant about -- I mean, we have

14 been part of the REMS collaborative for the last

15 four years. It's a very long, arduous course.

16 A lot of our constituents are saying it's

17 too much information in a 2-hour course. I don't

18 think 2 hours is actually the right answer. I

19 think Anne actually hit the nail on the head.

20 Clinicians should be lifelong learners, that this

21 is something that's going to be an ongoing process.

22 And we learn from day-to-day practice. We learn

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1 from day-to-day management of our patients. So

2 just mandating a 1-hour or 2-hour course is not

3 going to meet, I think, the needs of clinicians in

4 the big scheme of things.

5 The other thing that I really want to

6 highlight is that we already have state mandate

7 CMEs. So how is this going to fit with the state

8 mandate CMEs? Each state has their own wants.

9 Again, we have the REMS CO*RE. So when a PA calls

10 and says, I need to fill my need for New York and I

11 have them look at the objectives of the CO*RE REMS,

12 they say, I don’t know if that meets the New York

13 requirements.

14 That's real. So they have to go back to

15 their states. They have to go back to their state

16 legislation, their medical boards, and see, does

17 this meet my need, and not all individuals are

18 getting the answers that they want.

19 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Harris?

20 DR. HARRIS: Yes. So I think there is a

21 general agreement that education is necessary, and

22 the AMA -- I don't think I've heard one person in

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1 this room this morning, or actually as I've

2 traveled across the country talking about this

3 issue, say that education is not important.

4 The critical issue or critical issues are

5 the what and the how, and many folks have made the

6 point that you can aspire to meaningful education

7 when it is tailored to the physicians or the

8 prescriber's specialty, their patient population,

9 and their practice.

10 So I look at the answer to this question,

11 and I say it depends on what your outcome is; what

12 you want your outcome to be. If you want your

13 outcome to be simply a checkbox, then perhaps

14 someone would argue for mandatory education. But

15 if you want true, meaningful, improvement and

16 impact on patients, and if you really want your

17 prescribers -- by the way, a term I don't like to

18 use, but I'll use it today, because we're using

19 it -- if you want your "health professionals" to

20 really get the necessary education that will work

21 for them -- we've seen it this morning with example

22 after example, that health professionals are

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1 willing, ready, and able to get the education they

2 need when it's tailored to their own practice. I

3 think our colleague from Kaiser said there was

4 95 percent uptake.

5 So I think those are the pros of voluntary

6 education.

7 DR. TWILLMAN: I would say that I think

8 there is certain core body of knowledge that

9 everyone who works with a patient needs to have

10 with respect to opioids and with respect to pain

11 management. The trouble is I think that while that

12 education is necessary, didactic types of education

13 as we have generally done in this area, that's

14 necessary, but not sufficient.

15 I could go and take a 3-hour flight school

16 course, and you still wouldn't want to see me in

17 the cockpit. There's a whole lot more to it than

18 just that, and that's part of the challenge. How

19 do you provide people with this basic information

20 that is so necessary before you can move on, but

21 ensure that that actually turns into a meaningful

22 change? And that's I think a huge part of the

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1 challenge.

2 I am concerned about people opting out if

3 this is made mandatory. We've already seen that

4 happening to people, even without mandates. Even

5 without anything coming from their medical boards,

6 people are opting out of treating patients with

7 pain.

8 My concern is that while we might see a

9 reduced number of overdose deaths, we might offset

10 that by an increased number of suicides in people

11 who are no longer having their pain adequately

12 treated, and I'm not sure that that's a bargain we

13 want to make either.

14 So I'm not sure I have an answer for how to

15 do this. I certainly would like to see the

16 education incentivized, rather than mandated, if

17 that's possible, but I think the challenge there

18 becomes how do you design a meaningful incentive.

19 MS. TOIGO: Okay. Thank you very much. And

20 I think we've pretty much covered question 2 as

21 well, unless there's something somebody wants to

22 add that we haven't covered there, which is the

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1 impact on your members if a required training

2 program were implemented.

3 Anne?

4 MS. NORMAN: Sure. Just one additional

5 comment related to impact if a required program was

6 mandated. As was highlighted in the FDA

7 presentation this morning, depending on how the

8 required elements are integrated into the workflow

9 for the providers, it can either be very burdensome

10 or not.

11 So any required program and the checks that

12 would need to be made, and especially from the

13 pharmacy perspective at the dispensing pharmacy,

14 making sure that it's done through electronic

15 means, maybe through a switch or something like

16 that, where everything is verified and it doesn't

17 require phone calls or checking alternative

18 websites, would be desired.

19 MS. TOIGO: Okay. Dr. Galluzzi?

20 DR. GALLUZZI: I just wanted to comment,

21 with respect to -- of course everyone up here

22 agrees that education is important. The question

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1 at hand is should it be mandatory? I just want to

2 ask the obvious question, is there any evidence

3 that shows that individuals who are required to do

4 something, who are mandated to do something,

5 actually performed better after they've gone

6 through that mandatory educational process?

7 I don't think we have that evidence, and I

8 want to expand on what Anne said, which is simply

9 to say -- or what a number of people said. A

10 2-hour or a 3-hour or 4-hour course is certainly

11 not ever going to be adequate. And indeed, this

12 type of education I believe needs to be iterative.

13 So how that is able to be accomplished, I

14 think is really the big question.

15 MS. TOIGO: Dr. Waller?

16 DR. WALLER: Just very quickly. Education,

17 if you look at the Bloom's Taxonomy, has six

18 different layers. We're only trying to get to the

19 apply layer. So that means you have to remember,

20 understand, and apply. If you already have the

21 base of a medical education, then actually didactic

22 information has been shown to be helpful when we

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1 have surgeons watching a YouTube video before they

2 go in and try a new procedure.

3 So when you have a base of knowledge,

4 didactics applied on top of it actually can be

5 effective and actually move people up Bloom's

6 Taxonomy to apply, and that's been shown over and

7 over through many different versions of it, not

8 just in medicine.

9 I think earlier, we did actually have

10 research that showed, at least in the Army, that

11 they did see a significant decrease in opioid

12 overdose deaths just with the education alone, and

13 it by itself was the single most impactful piece.

14 And I think I looked at that slide twice to make

15 sure, but I'm pretty sure that that was shown in

16 that study, that we actually have seen an outcome

17 that's significantly improved by just the education

18 alone, and it was mandated to those professionals.

19 DR. TOIGO: Anyone else want to comment?

20 Dr. Harris, were you going to say something?

21 DR. HARRIS: Just a point that was made

22 earlier, but I think it's worth repeating regarding

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1 the duplicative nature of perhaps a federal

2 program. From a public health perspective, you

3 want to look at this from a systems approach. And

4 if states are already doing this well -- and this

5 gets into the next question a bit. But if states

6 have a system, we certainly wouldn't want to spend

7 federal dollars duplicating work that's already

8 being done in the states.

9 I would also say that we should really look

10 at rather than creating a new system, a new layer,

11 it seems to me to make more sense to improve what's

12 already out there. You've heard that the medical

13 schools are involved in this. I know I went to

14 Brown. I visited Brown, and they have a wonderful

15 program for the medical students and the residents.

16 So it seems to me that where you get the

17 most bang for your buck is improving systems that

18 are already in play versus creating a whole new

19 layer that would then add to the bureaucracy.

20 MS. TOIGO: Just to add to this question a

21 little bit, we heard this morning a question -- and

22 then I think when Dr. Kahn spoke in the public

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1 hearing, he made a comment about mandatory being

2 more burdensome when you're not in a big system.

3 So the presentations this morning were from

4 the VA, and Kaiser, and a lot of people getting

5 trained. I wonder if any of you have any thoughts

6 on the burden when you're an individual

7 practitioner versus the burden when you're part of

8 a system, and mandatory versus voluntary education

9 there.

10 DR. MOORE: Well, since I'm representing

11 dentistry, which in fact 50 percent of it is a

12 cottage industry, solo practitioners, I feel sure

13 that our members, the ADA's membership, will have a

14 certain amount of pushback with added mandated

15 burden, in part because they have to go find it.

16 It's not easy for them to access. On the other

17 hand, life's tough, you know?

18 I would point out that we have child abuse

19 requirements for our licensure, and those programs

20 are certified. Not anybody can teach them. You

21 have to become certified so that your curriculum

22 fulfills the requirements for that continuing

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1 education.

2 So I see the requirements for a mandated

3 opioid education to fit within that model in the

4 state, so I really agree with Dr. Harris with that

5 regard. We have a system in place there I think.

6 MS. TOIGO: Okay. Did you want to add

7 something, Dr. Waller?

8 DR. WALLER: Always, but I'll hold back.

9 MS. TOIGO: Okay. There will be another

10 opportunity.

11 Okay. Just before we move to question 3, I

12 want to make sure nobody has any other comments on

13 number 2.

14 MS. LEGER: Terry?

15 FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We just cannot hear

16 you.

17 MS. TOIGO: You can't? Okay, is that

18 better? Okay.

19 MS. LEGER: I just want to add that I think

20 in a closed system things are easier than

21 individuals in a private practice or in a community

22 health center, and unfortunately you cannot equate

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1 those two.

2 In the VA, in a Kaiser -- I used to work in

3 the hospital where basically every year you had to

4 have your annual competencies to be done. That was

5 in a hospital-based setting. But when I worked in

6 an outpatient setting, those were not done. So I

7 think, again, one size does not fit all.

8 MS. TOIGO: Okay. Thank you.

9 Yes, Dr. Galluzzi?

10 DR. GALLUZZI: I don't want to monopolize

11 this point, but I'm not sure that I made my point

12 clearly enough, that if we're talking about what

13 organizations need to be involved in this

14 education, of course the AOA, the AMA, AAPM, AANP,

15 AAPA, et cetera, have to all be involved, and this

16 has to be a coordinated effort.

17 But I just want to say again, this is a

18 public health crisis. And if we eliminate the

19 public from the problem, then I think we're missing

20 the boat. We need to really initiate significant

21 educational imperatives at the level of the public,

22 the individuals, children, adolescents,

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1 preschoolers.

2 I had adult children who went through the

3 D.A.R.E. program and who mocked it because they

4 were already so sophisticated that they thought it

5 was ridiculous for them to do learning about drugs.

6 And in fact, they used the D.A.R.E program to

7 inform them about some new things that they could

8 try.

9 I just want to continue to say, again, that

10 the onus is being placed on the prescribers, when

11 in fact this is a public health crisis affecting

12 everyone, and the education needs to involve,

13 therefore, everyone.

14 MS. TOIGO: Okay. Thank you for that. And

15 I think everybody's agrees with that. We're just

16 focusing on the education piece of it today.

17 So why don't we move to question number 3?

18 Number 3 is discuss which organizations,

19 federal agencies, state medical boards, others,

20 that are best situated to register and track

21 completion of a required training program. We

22 heard some presentations this morning around this

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1 topic. I'd be interested in going down the panel

2 on this one and having everybody have an

3 opportunity to comment.

4 DR. TERMAN: Okay. Eight years ago, I was

5 brand new on the board of the American Pain

6 Society, and we talked about opioid REMS. What are

7 those? And I said, oh, sounds like medical school.

8 And the president at the time said, "Oh well, if

9 you're so smart, you take this on."

10 So I found myself a few months later at an

11 FDA REMS meeting in 2009, and I suggested, on

12 behalf of the American Pain Society, that mandatory

13 education would be important, that it should be

14 across all opioids, not just extended release, and

15 that it be linked to the DEA certification.

16 There was no other certification that I'm

17 aware of in healthcare where you get the

18 certification without any demonstration that you

19 can do what they're certifying you for, use

20 controlled substances. I realized that that might

21 require some work politically, but that seems like

22 a reasonable first -- even if it's a short test

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1 that leads people through good pain management

2 before they get their certification, that seems

3 like a reasonable thing.

4 The disadvantage of a federal approach is

5 that federal institutions seem to be all about

6 prescribing. They're not really about practice of

7 medicine. That's what the state boards are

8 supposed to be doing, reasonably enough. That

9 would not keep the state boards from doing what

10 they need to do, but when you figure six boards,

11 every state, that's a lot of diversity, and it's

12 going to be a long time before there's any

13 agreement on what needs to be done to improve pain

14 management.

15 I'm happy to see it moving towards

16 something, but I'm not sure that that would keep

17 us -- not necessarily teaching long courses, doing

18 many pain fellowships for every DEA licensure, but

19 some sort of competency test that suggests, gee, it

20 might not be a great idea to co-prescribe

21 benzodiazepines and opioids.

22 That seems like a reasonable way to -- I

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1 mean, I spend a lot of time on my Internet

2 connection doing everything from IRB, animal care,

3 ACLS, central-line placement, asbestos abatement

4 training, everything comes across as a

5 [indiscernible].

6 So there's an unlimited number of people who

7 want me as a physician, an academic physician, not

8 just private practice physician, to do stuff. But

9 we're talking about what we think is a public

10 health crisis. Maybe it's okay to have physicians

11 understand what they're doing before they're given

12 license to do it.

13 MS. TOIGO: Dr. Galluzzi?

14 DR. GALLUZZI: We're talking about bullet

15 number 3, describe mechanisms. So what are the

16 mechanisms whereby this type of education can be

17 successfully rolled out? I think the CO*RE

18 initiative has shown that there's a successful

19 uptake of volunteers.

20 MS. TOIGO: We're doing number 3 on this

21 screen, so it's organizations that are best

22 situated to register and track.

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1 DR. GALLUZZI: I'm sorry? I can't hear you.

2 MS. TOIGO: So I'm going to try it again.

3 It's discuss which organizations, that is federal

4 agency, or state medical board, or others, are best

5 situated to register and track completion of a

6 required training program?

7 DR. GALLUZZI: Oh, I think I agree with Greg

8 then. I think the state medical boards are

9 probably a good place to start. The problem I

10 think is coordinating them because there's been a

11 paradigm shift in treating patients, and we need to

12 come out of our silos.

13 The one doc on the block treating everything

14 is no longer the model. We are working with

15 physician assistant, nurse practitioners, physical

16 therapists, and so I'm not sure that there is a

17 central clearinghouse, a repository where everyone

18 can come together.

19 But I do feel like we need to come out of

20 our silos and work toward a coordinated effort, and

21 that may be through the state boards. I'm not

22 sure.

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1 MS. TOIGO: Did you also agree with

2 Dr. Terman on DEA?

3 DR. GALLUZZI: I would agree with

4 Dr. Terman.

5 MS. TOIGO: That was his main point, I think

6 initially that required through DEA registration.

7 DR. GALLUZZI: Oh.

8 MS. TOIGO: Okay. I just wanted to clarify

9 if you did or when you were talking about agreeing

10 with him whether it was all or part.

11 DR. GALLUZZI: I guess for the most part,

12 yes.

13 DR. TERMAN: Could I take a giant step

14 backwards? Just one sentence. The reason why

15 DEA -- I don't think most people opt out of DEA

16 registration. Anything done by the FDA on the

17 opioid class, I worry about people opting out. But

18 if you take all of the controlled substances, I

19 don't think people will opt out.

20 DR. GALLUZZI: We're talking about a huge

21 range of possible medications, and I think,

22 clearly, most people are going to opt in.

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1 MS. TOIGO: Okay. Thank you. Dr. Moore?

2 DR. MOORE: DEA.

3 MS. TOIGO: Dr. Burns?

4 MS. BURNS: I was going to say DEA, and one

5 of the -- and this would be a for consideration.

6 But I think one of the important positive aspects

7 of DEA would be it would take some of the actual

8 administrative burdens that happen at the patient

9 level away, potentially, and allow the providers to

10 actually work with their patients and take care of

11 them.

12 MS. TOIGO: So just to clarify, the question

13 on the table is not whether DEA is the solution to

14 the problem; it's just on federal, state medical

15 boards, or others. Just because it was mentioned,

16 it's not -- okay, I just wanted to clarify that.

17 If I didn't, probably Dr. Waller will, right?

18 DR. WALLER: It's the J-O-B, right?

19 I would say that whenever you're going to

20 look for a point in which you can hit the most

21 people at the most time, it would be the one place

22 in which they have to go to either obtain initially

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1 or renew a DEA license, because that's where

2 everybody eventually has to go is to the DEA

3 diversion website. So with that, that allows for

4 actually a place where we already have a database

5 of every person who has a DEA license.

6 One of the issues that you find when you

7 start to deep dive into the states and what they

8 have the capability to do and don't do, is you find

9 that there's a distinct heterogeneity around the

10 country of the level of capability of a state

11 medical board.

12 So some very small states have less

13 sophistication at the state medical licensing board

14 to set up a unique database of people to do this.

15 I mean, there are a couple of states that I've been

16 to that literally, it's a hard drive where they

17 have the list of their people. It's not even an

18 Access database. It's an Excel spreadsheet where

19 they have all of their providers who have a license

20 to practice in the state.

21 They're not going to be able to stand up a

22 REMS program and be able to maintain that, so that

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1 we can know that people are doing it, turning it

2 in, and following it. And the locality -- I live

3 in New Jersey, which has now one of the stronger

4 requirements for CEs.

5 So it can be an either or, but there would

6 need to be an undertaking by either the FDA or the

7 DEA to determine which of these courses actually

8 meet the criteria and say it's either you take this

9 one that's provided through the federal means and

10 meets the requirements, or the state ones, which

11 also meet it. But either way, you would have to

12 sign up with that certificate, specifically the DEA

13 website where they already have the database.

14 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Norman?

15 MS. NORMAN: I think I'll be in agreement

16 with everyone else. I think it has to be the

17 agencies that authorize providers to prescribe;

18 therefore, the DEA. But I also think that it will

19 have to be a collaborative effort with the state

20 boards, since many of those do require state

21 education on controlled substance for relicensure.

22 So I think it will have to be a collaborative

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1 effort.

2 MS. TOIGO: Ms. Leger?

3 MS. LEGER: And I was going to expand from

4 the collaboration perspective. We actually have a

5 model, and PAs are new to that model. It's the

6 buprenorphine waiver, and it's a collaboration

7 between SAMHSA and DEA. I think, again, there's a

8 model that is already in place for physicians, has

9 now been enabled for PAs and NPs, where PAs and NPs

10 who get their buprenorphine waiver training, their

11 information is sent to SAMHSA, who codifies it with

12 the DEA, and then they get their X waiver.

13 So I think that could be a model that you

14 may want to investigate.

15 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Harris?

16 DR. HARRIS: So the practice of medicine is

17 regulated at the state level, and as we've heard

18 today, some states have decided to mandate

19 training. And those states, their medical boards

20 or probably maybe some other entity in the state,

21 are managing that.

22 The solution to the opioid crisis is a local

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1 solution. We saw that this morning. I'm

2 originally from West Virginia, Mercer County, which

3 is right new to McDowell County, which has been

4 significantly impacted by the opioid epidemic.

5 Recently, I went to the prescription drug abuse

6 summit and heard from folks from Marin County. And

7 I imagine everyone in this room knows how different

8 Marin County is from McDowell County, West

9 Virginia.

10 So the solutions are local. So I believe

11 that if states decide to mandate, they know best,

12 working with their state partners, the state public

13 health department, state medical societies, know

14 best what the needs are for that particular state,

15 and even further down to the local level.

16 So I will continue to say that if there is

17 required training, that should come from the state

18 level, and then the state should regulate that as

19 it regulates the practice of medicine.

20 MS. TOIGO: Thank you.

21 DR. TWILLMAN: I would very much like for it

22 to be a local solution handled by the licensing

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1 boards, but I think it's impractical to do that.

2 You're talking about 70 medical boards, 51 nursing

3 boards, 51 dental boards, some unknown number of

4 pharmacy boards, optometry boards, naturopathic

5 medicine boards. It just begins to be too much to

6 manage. And furthermore, I'm not sure what

7 authority any federal agency has to direct all of

8 those licensing boards to mandate this kind of

9 education.

10 I'm not sure that that's the solution that's

11 going to work. I think it does have to be a

12 federal agency. I don't mind it being DEA that's

13 keeping track of that, so long as it's not DEA

14 that's determining the content of the education.

15 As long as it's determined by someone in

16 healthcare, not someone in law enforcement, I would

17 be okay with that.

18 With respect to people not opting out of DEA

19 registrations, I may be wrong about this, and

20 correct me if I am, but I think it's possible to

21 opt out of a Schedule 2 registration only, and keep

22 your Schedule 3, 4, and 5. So I'm not sure that

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1 that gets us to the point where we won't have

2 anyone opting out. But to me, it's the best of

3 some non-optimal solutions.

4 MS. TOIGO: Okay. Thank you. Before we

5 move to question 4, is there anybody that wants to

6 add anything on question 3?

7 (No response.)

8 MS. TOIGO: Okay. So we'll move to

9 question 4, and we've got 20 minutes left for the

10 last two questions.

11 Question 4 is discuss which organizations,

12 federal agencies, state medical board, healthcare

13 system, or others, that are best situated to

14 incentivize a voluntary education program?

15 So now we're moving from the mandatory to

16 the voluntary. The last two questions are on

17 voluntary. Which organizations are best situated

18 to incentivize a voluntary program?

19 How about we start down this way this time?

20 DR. TWILLMAN: I think the answer to that

21 depends on what kind of incentive you come up with.

22 Obviously the most powerful incentive for most

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1 people is money. So if you're going to go down

2 that route, I'm not sure that we have an agency

3 other than CMS that might be able to do that. And

4 again, that's only going to cover folks who are

5 Medicare and Medicaid prescribers.

6 I'm a little challenged by this because

7 outside of a financial incentive, I'm not sure what

8 other incentives we can come up with. And I'll

9 leave it to the rest of the panel to suggest some

10 things I'm ignorant of.

11 MS. TOIGO: Dr. Harris?

12 DR. HARRIS: So I do agree that it does

13 depend on the program. But in the last question,

14 everyone answered DEA. In this question, I'm going

15 to answer DEA, and I'm going to say would DEA

16 consider a 10 percent reduction of -- I see my DEA

17 colleague looking up when I'm talking about this.

18 (Laughter.)

19 DR. HARRIS: Definitely don't have to answer

20 today -- a 10 percent reduction in registration

21 fees for those who have taken whatever courses,

22 either maybe their state or they can demonstrate

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1 some course in that.

2 So for this question I might say let's put

3 DEA on the table here to incentivize those courses.

4 MS. TOIGO: Thank you, Dr. Harris.

5 Ms. Leger?

6 MS. LEGER: I think payers have a big role

7 to play in this. And I know that there are some

8 programs for some of the chronic disease models and

9 how clinicians are able to apply evidence-based

10 practice, and they're able to move the needle in

11 their patient management.

12 I think if you look at the payers who are

13 able to give a better reimbursement rate for the

14 visits, that would be the place to go.

15 MS. TOIGO: Dr. Norman?

16 MS. NORMAN: So I just agree with the two

17 former colleagues up here that I would really like

18 to see that reduction in the DEA fee. If they were

19 to do that, I think that would be a good incentive.

20 And then I agree also with the payers. However,

21 there are some people out there who are not

22 involved in that with their boutique practices or

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1 whatever, so they're not involved with insurance or

2 any type of reimbursement plan like that. I think

3 it needs to be an overall organization that would

4 have the power to incentivize everyone.

5 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Waller?

6 DR. WALLER: I would say that I did like the

7 idea of the DEA that Dr. Harris had mentioned, but

8 I think it's a combination of the payer and the

9 hospital systems, because hospital systems are who

10 ubiquitously receive money from CMS. So they could

11 be given a bonus on their CMS reimbursements, if

12 they had a certain portion of their medical staff

13 that had taken the CME there. And I know that they

14 have the capacity to do this because it took

15 exactly two weeks for the entire country's health

16 systems to stand up Ebola screening, and we saw

17 entirely two cases.

18 So I think with that, we know that they have

19 the capacity to do this. And the incentive doesn't

20 necessarily need to be to the individual provider,

21 but to the system, and then they can internally

22 incentivize in many different ways for medical

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1 staff.

2 Someone who is a medical staff, chief of

3 pain medicine for four years in a large health

4 system, I could not incentivize one person to do

5 anything, but the health system can magically snap

6 their fingers, and a lot of people were standing in

7 line to get stuff done.

8 MS. TOIGO: Thank you, Dr. Waller.

9 Dr. Burns?

10 MS. BURNS: And I agree the comments that

11 have been made. At the national level, there's a

12 lot of focus on public-private partnerships, so I'm

13 hearing payers. I'm hearing DEA. So there may be

14 some opportunity for some collaborations.

15 I would just add for the education

16 component, collaboration among the members of the

17 team, as has been stated will be critical moving

18 forward.

19 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Moore?

20 DR. MOORE: Continuing education in

21 dentistry is supported by fees by the dentist to

22 take continuing education. And I think as long as

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1 these programs are within the total number of hours

2 that you're required to take, it probably doesn't

3 have a disincentive factor.

4 So I don't think we're -- we don't have

5 hospitals; we don't have those kinds of sources.

6 So I think it is not really a significant problem.

7 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Galluzzi?

8 DR. GALLUZZI: I just want to reiterate, I'm

9 in favor of the carrot much more so than the stick,

10 so that the incentivization of getting this

11 training, and ongoing continuing education I think

12 is really where I would like to see this going.

13 I'm not sure. I don't have the public

14 policy background to say that the DEA would be the

15 right place versus CMS. But when you think about

16 interdisciplinary training, I think that CMS would

17 have more oversight for different disciplines, more

18 so than the DEA, a law enforcement agency.

19 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Terman?

20 DR. TERMAN: Yes, I am not as excited about

21 the DEA for $10 getting off of your license fee.

22 I'm not quite willing to get FDA off the hook here.

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1 Frankly, I don't think the ER/LA REMS thus far have

2 been a failure. I think they were not expansive

3 enough, and I think they were aimed at the wrong

4 categories of prescribers.

5 Calling a successful completer someone who

6 has prescribed long-acting opioids in the last few

7 months, those aren't the people we're trying to

8 teach. Those are the people that probably aren't

9 going to care about what I have to say.

10 It's everybody else that hasn't been

11 prescribing them and is wondering whether they

12 should, and why would you? Those are the people

13 that we want to teach in the same way that you like

14 to get the medical students fresh. You like to get

15 students in general who don't come in with their

16 own agenda.

17 So when I saw that 400,000 -- did I misread

18 that? Is that right? Does that make sense?

19 MS. TOIGO: They were not completers, but

20 there were 400,000 who --

21 DR. TERMAN: I understand, that took

22 training. And then he tells me that 1.5 million

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1 are DEA registrants. I mean, I'm less pessimistic

2 about that. Now, I realize that some of those

3 people took it multiple times and perhaps --

4 MS. TOIGO: Or not prescribers -- it was

5 all -- I think that number was all healthcare

6 professionals.

7 Doris, is that --

8 DR. AUTH: We don't know that gap, the

9 people that started and never finished. We don't

10 know [inaudible - off mic].

11 DR. TERMAN: But they did take it. They

12 signed up for it.

13 DR. AUTH: Yes.

14 DR. TERMAN: Okay. So again, I'm not sure

15 in terms of the voluntary -- if you're not going to

16 make it mandatory, I like what the FDA has done so

17 far. And there's a lot of throwing the FDA under

18 the bus. It's like blaming CDC for Zika virus. It

19 makes no sense.

20 (Laughter.)

21 DR. TERMAN: And there are reasons why we

22 ran into problems with this opiate crisis, and it's

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1 because people are not doing good pain medicine.

2 And boy, is it easy to write a prescription and

3 send them on their way. It's not because people

4 wanted to create a bunch of problems with opioids.

5 It's that it's hard to do, and apart from addiction

6 medicine, there's nothing that doctors like to do

7 less than pain medicine, and that's where the

8 connection is, actually.

9 MS. TOIGO: So I'm not --

10 DR. TERMAN: What question did I answer?

11 (Laughter.)

12 MS. TOIGO: No, I just wanted one point of

13 clarification to make sure I understood what your

14 main point was, that you're not going to let FDA

15 off the hook. You think voluntary training is a

16 good idea, but it should be broader than ER/LA

17 opioid analgesics.

18 Is that what you were saying?

19 DR. TERMAN: Correct. That's correct.

20 MS. TOIGO: Okay. I got it. Thank you.

21 Okay. So we've got one question left before

22 we go to questions from the audience. So what I'd

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1 like to do is go to the last question, which is

2 describe mechanisms your organization has

3 successfully used or potentially could be used to

4 support prescriber training that is voluntary in

5 nature.

6 I'm going to start with Dr. Waller.

7 DR. WALLER: I'll just get it out of the

8 way. It's like pulling off a band-aid. No, fair

9 enough.

10 So I'm the medical director -- one of my

11 roles is a medical director of an ACO in Camden,

12 and recently we rolled out a plan to expand

13 medication assisted treatment in the city of Camden

14 by paying providers $500 to take the free 8-hour

15 course, plus write their first prescription. So

16 that's 8 hours and write their first prescription

17 for buprenorphine for a patient, then they would

18 get $500.

19 Eighty-four percent of the providers signed

20 up for that. I think it's going to end up being a

21 hundred, or pretty close to that, for peer-pressure

22 basis. And that's all voluntary. And $500 is not

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1 enough money to really say that that's a true

2 incentivization. So we may not have to honestly

3 pay that much to get a lot of benefit. But I think

4 the biggest piece was we said, after this, for your

5 first 10 patients, we will have somebody on call to

6 help you, meaning that they have somebody to call.

7 So I can't say whether it was just the $500

8 or the fact that they feel like somebody's there to

9 back them up. And with AAAP, PCSSO, and PCSSMAT,

10 we have a wonderful number of mentor providers that

11 this already exists nationally that we could tap

12 right into with opioids, because there's already

13 the PCSSO mechanism to tap into for that mentorship

14 that they put together really well.

15 So I think it's doable, but the incentives

16 have to be weighed out. Money's hopeful, but help

17 is I think more appreciated.

18 MS. TOIGO: Okay. Thank you. Dr. Burns?

19 MS. BURNS: From a professional association

20 perspective and specifically for pharmacists, APHA

21 has really ramped up our efforts to train

22 pharmacists in a more integrative approach to pain

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1 management. I think I could speak across the board

2 for the organizations, the CE programs that

3 organizations offer.

4 We have really increased the number of in-

5 depth CE offerings, so not just 1 and 2-hour

6 programs, but day-long programs via a pain

7 institute, really to help to drive the message that

8 pharmacists need to be up to speed on the latest as

9 it relates to pain management.

10 The other thing that associations can do is

11 use their communications vehicles to make

12 pharmacists or other healthcare providers in our

13 case, aware of programs that exist, requirements

14 for those programs and so forth. So there we have

15 the opportunity for broad reach using

16 organizational input.

17 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Moore?

18 DR. MOORE: The American Dental Association

19 is organized as a national organization, as well as

20 state organizations, as well as local

21 organizations. So when you belong to the ADA, you

22 belong to all three of those organizations, and

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1 they all provide continuing education.

2 Clearly, the American Dental Association is

3 really trying to be as proactive as dentists can

4 be. So I think there is going to be lots of

5 programming available, either free or for minimal

6 costs through those organizations.

7 But I think without a mandate, I think you

8 have a situation in our profession where getting

9 trained to do something you do already doesn't make

10 you any more money.

11 Unlike training that you can now use

12 Suboxone and like that, where in fact that adds to

13 your practice, I'm not sure that there is a

14 particularly financial advantage. And I suspect

15 the people who would be involved in an unmandated

16 CE requirement would be the people who are

17 interested in that information and are taking it

18 anyway. I'm not sure if it would really go to the

19 people who we are targeting with regard to proper

20 and responsible prescribing.

21 So I'm kind of at a loss there. Did you

22 hear me kind of say a lot of words and not come up

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1 with an answer?

2 MS. TOIGO: No, but I got the difference

3 between what Dr. Waller was describing and what you

4 were describing in the realm of voluntary programs

5 and how appealing they might be.

6 DR. MOORE: People take CE courses to learn

7 about how we can whiten teeth -- there's a money-

8 maker -- or how we can straighten teeth, or how we

9 can fill teeth. I'm not sure that there are those

10 kinds of incentives, inherent incentives, that

11 exist there.

12 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Those are helpful

13 comments. Dr. Galluzzi?

14 DR. GALLUZZI: The AOA was actually a

15 founding member of the CO*RE initiative, which is

16 an 11-member group and includes Medscape as a

17 commercial partner, if you will. And I have to say

18 having given a number of those lectures over the

19 years, I have been edified with the response from

20 the volunteers who attend the lectures.

21 Admittedly, some of it is arduous. Some of the

22 programs are 3 hours long, and there's a great deal

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1 of engagement. I think that that's one of the best

2 things AOA has partnered with.

3 AOA has also developed an initiative and 22

4 of the colleges of osteopathic medicine have signed

5 on in agreement to expand the amount of opioid

6 education at the undergraduate level. There is an

7 attempt to expand it beyond the use of just basic

8 science, pharmacology, and to bring in the other

9 disciplines like psychology, physical therapy,

10 physician assistant studies, et cetera.

11 AOA has also worked with the surgeon general

12 on the Turn the Tide initiative, and with the

13 National Association of Boards of Pharmacy

14 workgroup to assist with education on

15 identification of red flags and interprofessional

16 education.

17 So I think these have been some very

18 successful initiatives, and I hope that we can

19 expand on them and have them grow in the future.

20 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Terman?

21 DR. TERMAN: Sure. The American Pain

22 Society will continue to do voluntary education, as

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1 we have for 40 years, a multidisciplinary group,

2 including next week in Pittsburgh, our annual

3 scientific meeting, where we'll be describing one

4 of my conflicts of interest, which is $2 million

5 from Pfizer to fund three major grants on better

6 pain management, none of which involve

7 pharmacology.

8 But to be perfectly honest, our best efforts

9 in educating has been through collaboration, and

10 our outstanding collaborations with CO*RE and the

11 other members there have been very good. Our pain

12 care for primary care conferences with Global

13 Academy of Medical Education have been packed. So

14 we are certainly happy to collaborate with anybody

15 interested in educating people about pain medicine.

16 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Norman?

17 MS. NORMAN: So I said earlier that nurse

18 practitioners were lifelong learners, and I would

19 just say that the American Association of Nurse

20 Practitioners is the only national organization for

21 all NPs in all specialties. We serve and support

22 the 222,000 nurse practitioners in the United

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1 States.

2 We have offered continuing education for

3 many, many years. We offer three live conferences

4 a year, and then we have a very robust LMS where we

5 maintain 170 to 180 programs in there, and we have

6 educated lots of NPs.

7 At two of our conferences, we always have a

8 pain management track. This year at our Specialty

9 in Leadership conference in September, we'll have a

10 pain management and opioid use disorder track. We

11 always get good attendance for those.

12 At our health policy conference this year,

13 we've also focused on -- actually, the last few

14 years have focused on the opioid epidemic. This

15 past February, we did have the surgeon general come

16 and speak.

17 So we're addressing the epidemic across

18 several avenues and venues. We're, of course, a

19 proud member of the 11-partner interprofessional

20 multidisciplinary CO*RE collaboration. Within that

21 curriculum, AANP has taught or had more than 19,584

22 NP learners.

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1 When we look at those, how many of those

2 were licensed to prescribe, 13,760 were licensed to

3 prescribe. Then how many had prescribed within the

4 last 12 months was 5,996 of those that have taken

5 the CO*RE program through AANP.

6 We also offer several other related CE

7 programs, including substance-use disorder for

8 adolescents. We will soon be in partnership with

9 NIDA on another substance-use disorder program for

10 adolescents that will be coming out soon. And

11 again, like I said, we offer a lot of live sessions

12 at our conferences on this topic.

13 AANP also participates on the advisory

14 council for Harvard Medical and NIDA who are

15 creating three 8-hour modules on the opioid topic,

16 and we have already begun to promote that to our

17 members. And then also, we serve on steering

18 committee for the PPCSO and PCCSMAT to influence

19 that, so that we can insure that nurse

20 practitioners are getting the education that they

21 need.

22 Other than that, we serve on a lot of opioid

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1 initiatives both at the national and federal level,

2 including the surgeon general, HHS, and others.

3 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Ms. Leger?

4 MS. LEGER: AAPA has several national

5 initiatives of which one is the opioid epidemic.

6 We actually have on our webpage an opioid page, and

7 it has all the activities that PAs can go to for

8 continuing medical education, of which one of them

9 is the CO*RE REMS.

10 But the other thing that we're doing is that

11 I purposefully placed one of our lectures in

12 Kentucky. Kentucky is the only state of the nation

13 where PAs are not allowed to prescribe controlled

14 substances, and we know that there's a tremendous

15 epidemic in Kentucky.

16 When I placed that course, no one said why

17 are you doing it? And it wasn't because we were

18 not chasing the numbers for FDA at this point in

19 time, because FDA, it's not just the number of

20 individuals who are in the room attending the

21 session; it's the number of individuals who are

22 licensed to prescribe and has prescribed in the

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1 last year.

2 Doris has heard me say that over and over

3 and over, that they need to change their

4 definition. But I really felt that clinicians,

5 whether they are prescribers or not, are part of

6 the team that are managing patients who may be on

7 an opioid.

8 NPAs are prescribers in Kentucky of other

9 products, and they manage patients who may be on an

10 opioid. So to tell me that they cannot benefit

11 from an education program because they don't meet

12 the FDA definition, I'm not going to say what I

13 think.

14 The other thing that we do also is that from

15 a legislation perspective is -- Florida was one of

16 the last states that recently enabled PAs to

17 prescribe controlled substances. And I told the

18 Florida chapter that we need to -- what's the word?

19 I'm sorry. I'm thinking in French; one

20 second. We need to leverage education and show to

21 the legislation, to legislators, that PAs in

22 Florida were educated.

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1 Before a bill was introduced and passed in

2 Florida, they could prove that they had a fair

3 number of the PAs if Florida had taken the opioid

4 REMS course. And that was, again, without it being

5 mandated, so it was all voluntary.

6 The last thing that I'm going to say is we

7 are continuing to provide other programs. Similar

8 to Anne, we're part of the NIDA CME for pediatric

9 and adolescent substance use. We've collaborated

10 with the Harvard Medical School also.

11 So it's not just REMS. It's just addressing

12 the epidemic in totality, I think is really where

13 we really need to look at, the public health impact

14 of the epidemic on the clinicians and the patients.

15 MS. TOIGO: Thank you.

16 So I'm mindful of time. We're a little bit

17 over.

18 DR. HARRIS: Okay. The AMA is very active

19 in this area. We create our own CME courses and

20 offer these at our two policy meetings per year, as

21 well as our advocacy meeting. We're involved in

22 development of webinars, having national partner

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1 calls where we are constantly urging our physicians

2 to enhance our education and training, not only on

3 opioids, but on substance-use disorders and pain,

4 and pain management.

5 We're working on two pilots right now in

6 Rhode Island and Alabama. These pilot projects are

7 toolkits that have many resources on multiple

8 levels, including education and training for

9 physicians.

10 Of course, we have our AMA opioid task

11 force. Many of our partners are in the room,

12 anesthesiology, OAO, ADA, AAFP, addiction

13 psychiatry, ASAM, so we have really elevated all of

14 our courses.

15 We have 200 courses on that website because

16 we had heard that physicians weren't sure where to

17 go when their own specialty didn't offer the

18 courses. So now folks can have that website to go

19 to, and we know that recently over 118,000

20 physicians have taken courses from that. So AMA is

21 very active, and we will continue to be active in

22 making sure that physicians lead on the issue of

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1 furthering our education and training.

2 Also, one more thing that I think we should

3 keep in mind as we go forward. This epidemic has

4 evolved, and the factors that are currently

5 sustaining this epidemic are different from the

6 factors that were probably involved.

7 We have to make sure -- I'll just say that

8 we are constantly looking at what we are doing, and

9 evolving with the epidemic, and staying ahead of

10 the epidemic, if you will, for whatever solutions

11 we propose. So I just wanted to make that point.

12 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Dr. Twillman?

13 DR. TWILLMAN: Of course we would do the

14 same thing that we do with all of our education

15 courses, make them available, our LMS, advertise

16 them widely, have content at our annual meeting.

17 But they might be interested in doing some

18 creative things. It would be nice if we could get

19 a grant that would allow us to give members a

20 discount off their membership fee for the next year

21 if they completed the course.

22 Or maybe since Dr. Terman and I both have

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1 psychology degrees from the same fine educational

2 institution, I'd call up APS and say, let's have a

3 competition. Let's see which percentage of APS or

4 AAPM prescribers can take this course and see who

5 wins. And then when APS loses, he'd wear our logo

6 T-shirt at his meeting or something.

7 (Laughter.)

8 DR. TERMAN: No, we'd lose you as a member.

9 (Laughter.)

10 DR. TWILLMAN: But I think doing all the

11 usual things is obvious. I think it's time to get

12 a little bit creative maybe and think about some

13 new and interesting things, too.

14 Questions and Answers

15 MS. TOIGO: So if you all get creative

16 before our docket closes, we'd love to hear those

17 creative solutions to the docket.

18 So I think we've got a little bit of time

19 left for questions, so I'd like to open it up to

20 the meeting participants, if you have any

21 questions. And I'd also like to apologize

22 for -- from having kids who tell me they hold the

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1 phone over here when their mother is speaking, this

2 clearly is not how I usually speak. I thank you

3 for bearing with me in not being able to hear

4 completely.

5 DR. HAVENS: I have a comment and a

6 suggestion. Comment is CME has always been a part

7 of licensure, and that's where it should stay.

8 Putting it in the hands of the DEA is putting the

9 fox in charge of the henhouse.

10 By keeping it at the state level with

11 licensure, which even though there might be five

12 different licensure groups, they're doing it

13 already. It's part of their job. Then all the DEA

14 has to do is look to see if that little box has

15 been checked, and then they get their DEA

16 certificate. That's one suggestion.

17 The second thing is that for an incentive,

18 since innocent doctors are being attacked all over

19 this country, make it in these statements that if

20 you take this CME and are taught how to prescribe

21 controlled drugs, they cannot use the CSA

22 illegally, like they're doing now, using that 1304

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1 or whatever it is, against doctors. Doctors are

2 immune to prosecution, and you will guarantee that

3 you'll have doctors again treating pain

4 appropriately.

5 We treat pain appropriately as it is. And

6 having our licenses taken away and our lives

7 destroyed for money is not right. And that would

8 be a way of getting people back the care that they

9 have without putting innocent people in prison.

10 Thank you.

11 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Over here?

12 FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes. Hi. A

13 question that may have no answer. I wonder

14 whether, since there are already 20 some states

15 that have opioid prescribing or pain management

16 prescribing education as a requirement of

17 licensure, is there some way, without creating a

18 new mandate, sort of a new level, a new layer on

19 top of that, that the states could maybe -- we

20 could herd the cats a little bit and create some

21 sort of a standardization across states, so that

22 the requirements don't vary as widely as they do

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1 now. I think that's a frustration for us as CME

2 providers, as well as for the people who are

3 learning.

4 DR. WALLER: I think that's a definition of

5 a federal standard. I mean, I'm just

6 saying -- which I agree with. I think that in

7 order to standardize across all 50 states and the

8 territories, because we also have people that are

9 licensed outside of the Continental United States

10 in Puerto Rico and Mariana Island --

11 I mean, there are complicated issues that go

12 along with those. And the big thing is that, yes,

13 there should be a baseline, and if the state meets

14 it, then it seems logical that if the state meets

15 it, that box has been checked. Then the only thing

16 that the DEA does is not say yes or no; they just

17 keep the database.

18 They're not in charge of building the

19 education, making sure that that education was done

20 by that person in that state, but purely just the

21 allocation of those names and the check box that's

22 there, but heterogeneity is a reality, especially

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1 the deeper you get into localities.

2 FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Thank you.

3 MS. TOIGO: Norm?

4 DR. KAHN: Norman Kahn, Conjoint Committee

5 on Continuing Education. First of all, I want to

6 thank the panel. I have two pages of notes. This

7 is terrific.

8 You know, a lot of times people come to the

9 microphone and they pretend to ask a question, but

10 in reality they're making a statement. I don't

11 have a question.

12 (Laughter.)

13 DR. KAHN: I have a really quick statement

14 that I want your reaction to. And I think we have

15 a window of opportunity here with regard to

16 incentives, and that is the Center for Medicare and

17 Medicaid Services is right now writing a rule on

18 improvement activities.

19 You talk about collaborations, there are a

20 number of us in the audience here who are working

21 with them right now on certain kinds of continuing

22 education, fulfilling the criteria for an

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1 improvement activity. If it can be shown to change

2 practice behaviors and be related to improved

3 outcomes, this seems to be perfect. This would be

4 a great incentive.

5 MS. TOIGO: So are you asking for other

6 partners to come see you? Is that --

7 DR. KAHN: Sure.

8 MS. TOIGO: Okay. Steve?

9 DR. PASSIK: Steve Passik, Collegium. So

10 continuing on my theme of holding the payer's feet

11 to the fire a bit on this, Fred in his slides had

12 an outcome that would really matter to the

13 physicians I used to practice with, and that is

14 fewer phone calls.

15 So I'm wondering if there's any mechanism

16 that anybody knows of, or could you fathom an

17 incentive that if someone got this training,

18 insurance companies would offer them an opportunity

19 to be exempted from prior auth, not have their

20 judgment questioned quite as often, and not have to

21 be on the phone with the insurance companies

22 constantly if they wanted to institute a certain

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1 visit schedule, a certain particular drug, a urine

2 drug test on a particular frequency.

3 Right now, people trying to do that in their

4 practice and trying to -- when I did it, I would

5 say, I want to see this person once a week. I want

6 them to have psychotherapy. I want to do a urine

7 drug test every month. I want my prescribing

8 colleagues to give out only 7 days worth of

9 medicine at a time, and so on, and the answer you

10 got back was, no, no, no, no, copay every time.

11 There are significant payer barriers. So if

12 you really wanted to incentivize people, if there

13 was a way to say if someone was certified in this

14 way, the payers would have to honor it in some way,

15 that would matter to the physicians I used to

16 practice with.

17 MS. TOIGO: Dr. Harris wants to comment.

18 DR. HARRIS: Just wanted to comment that

19 your point about payer barriers is a good point.

20 And I would argue that actually payers need to get

21 rid of those barriers, separate and apart from an

22 incentive from these courses.

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1 The good news is I know the AMA has had some

2 conversations. At our task force meeting, we had

3 Blue Cross/Blue Shield. So payers I think are

4 beginning to look at barriers, particularly to

5 medication -assisted treatment, as well as the

6 barriers to the non-pharmacologic alternatives for

7 pain. So that's happening, but they need to do

8 more.

9 MS. TOIGO: Okay. Can you identify

10 yourself?

11 DR. MILIO: Lorraine Milio, Society for

12 Maternal Fetal Medicine. Two comments, questions.

13 One is whether it's incentivized or mandated, my

14 concern is limiting training to people who are

15 prescribing opioids only, because we live in such a

16 fragmented care situation where I'm amazed at how

17 many physicians do not know that they shouldn't

18 prescribe benzos to patients who are on opioids,

19 et cetera. I would encourage us to think about

20 training all physicians who can contribute to the

21 problem and not just those who are prescribing

22 opioids. So that's one question.

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1 The second thing is I sometimes feel that

2 this is static, like it's a training module. And

3 it seems that some of the best ways of

4 incentivizing providers is really allowing for

5 ongoing training and the availability of expertise,

6 as I think was presented this morning by Kaiser,

7 and having people accessible who practitioners,

8 whether they're in small groups or a big

9 organization, can contact easily, frequently ask

10 questions, an easy-to-access website, so that if

11 they do training, they know that they are not left

12 alone after that training.

13 MS. TOIGO: Thank you. Last question or

14 comment and then we'll --

15 MR. BRASON: It is a question. Fred Brason,

16 Project Lazarus. And we'll probably discuss this

17 in the next panel, but you as representatives of

18 professional organizations, I ask you this, because

19 you were talking about incentives and -- if you're

20 already doing the practice, what's my incentive to

21 go do more training for what I'm already doing?

22 What if the training had to do

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1 with -- because we're already asking them to do

2 mindfulness, and motivational interviewing, and all

3 the other things that they're trying to add their 7

4 to 8 minutes that they don't have time for.

5 But if we wrap this around, and you start to

6 look at it as holistically as the whole practice,

7 how can we show them economically how you can

8 integrate behavioral health into your practice?

9 You can have someone else, the social workers and

10 so forth, doing all of that.

11 We've been able to show that that is

12 economically viable for a practice, so that now

13 they're able to see even possibly more patients,

14 but have the support mechanisms within that

15 practice because of the dual diagnosis or whatever

16 external issues and comorbid issues are going on;

17 that if we looked at training around that also,

18 then I think there would be somewhat of incentive

19 for them to take it.

20 But I'm just kind of presenting that as a

21 question. Your thoughts?

22 MS. TOIGO: Dr. Harris?

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1 FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We agree, but it

2 has to be paid for.

3 MR. BRASON: Right. Well, that's my point,

4 that it isn't easy, but I know in one CMS

5 innovations grant that we had in North Carolina, we

6 were able to show it's economically viable and you

7 can do that kind of care in a general medical

8 practice. You can do the behavioral health, you

9 can do the buprenorphine, and wrap that into all of

10 your services and make it economically viable.

11 DR. HARRIS: Those are the types of best

12 practices that we need to disseminate and share.

13 MR. BRASON: Right.

14 DR. HARRIS: Yes.

15 MR. BRASON: Let's not create another

16 infrastructure and using what we've already got.

17 Thanks.

18 MS. TOIGO: Okay. I think that ends this

19 panel, the health professional panel. Thank you

20 all very much for your thoughtful tones.

21 (Applause.)

22 (Whereupon, at 3:20 p.m., a recess was

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1 taken.)

2 State Panel Discussion

3 MR. LURIE: Welcome back. The focus this

4 latter part of the afternoon shifts to the states

5 and what the states can do, should do, might have

6 done. You heard some data this morning presented

7 by Lisa, describing some of the state activities.

8 So I think the purpose of this panel then is

9 to consider some of those state activities and the

10 context of potential federal activities, how they

11 might fit together, how they might be inconsistent

12 with one another, how one might react to the other,

13 and how one might encourage them or discourage them

14 as the case may be.

15 I think what we'll do is I'm going to

16 introduce myself and ask the others in the panel to

17 introduce themselves. And then the last person to

18 my left here is David Brown from the Virginia

19 Department of Health Professions, and he's going to

20 get special treatment, because everybody else

21 you've already heard from before, and he wasn't on

22 the morning panel. So he's going to make some

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1 short comments before we jump into the questions

2 themselves.

3 I'm Peter Lurie. I'm with the Office of

4 Public Health Strategy and Analysis at FDA.

5 Joanna?

6 DR. KATZMAN: I'm Joanna Katzman. I'm

7 associate professor at the University of New

8 Mexico. I direct the UNM Pain Center and Project

9 ECHO Pain and Opioid Management. Thank you.

10 MR. BRASON: Fred Brason from Project

11 Lazarus.

12 MS. BECKER: Melina Becker from the National

13 Governors Association.

14 MS. ROBIN: I'm Lisa Robin with the

15 Federation of State Medical Boards.

16 Presentation – David Brown

17 MR. BROWN: I'm David Brown, and I love

18 special treatment, so I'm very appreciative. I'm

19 the director of the Virginia Department of Health

20 Professions. The Department of Health Professions,

21 we have 13 health regulatory boards, including the

22 Board of Medicine, the Board of Pharmacy, the Board

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1 of Dentistry, the Board of Nursing. So we pretty

2 much license all the prescribers, and we license

3 all the dispensers, and we also have Virginia's

4 Prescription Drug Monitoring Program.

5 This morning, we've talk about how active

6 the legislatures have been, and I thought I'd talk

7 for a second about some of the things that have

8 happened in Virginia in this past year that really

9 involve prescriber education that were mandated by

10 legislature.

11 The first thing is the Virginia legislature

12 passed a bill this year directing my boss, the

13 Secretary of Health in Virginia, Bill Hazel, to

14 convene a work group to study the curricula

15 involving pain management, prescribing, and

16 addiction in our professional schools in Virginia.

17 It mandated that this would include a

18 representative from every medical school, the

19 School of Dentistry, every pharmacy school, nursing

20 schools, and physician-assistant programs.

21 We've expanded that to also look at patient

22 education with the idea that later on in this

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1 workgroup, we'll bring in other professions, again

2 like we talked about this morning, who interact

3 with patients, who may be pain sufferers, and may

4 be on opioid medications, to make sure they can

5 have appropriate input.

6 So that would involve certainly the

7 behavioral sciences, would include physical

8 therapy, other types of professions.

9 The first meeting of this workgroup is going

10 to be May 19th, and we're hopeful that this is

11 going to really lead to what is a real gap, which

12 is the standardization in the area of prescribing

13 and addiction in professional education.

14 The second thing that happened this year is

15 a bill was introduced requiring the Board of

16 Medicine and the Board of Dentistry in Virginia to

17 enact regulations for the use of opioids in the

18 treatment of acute and chronic pain.

19 As part of this, this bill ended up

20 incorporating other bills that would have mandated

21 limits on prescribing. In other words, the

22 legislature was persuaded, since the Board of

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1 Medicine has now been directed to do regulations,

2 let's go ahead and have them incorporate -- have

3 professionals, as opposed to legislators, look at

4 what those requirements should be.

5 So the Board of Medicine convened a panel of

6 experts in the area of addiction and pain

7 management that pretty much looked at the CDC

8 guidelines, and the treatment of chronic pain, and

9 other evidence-based practices to create

10 regulations.

11 I would like to argue that these regulations

12 in some way are a way of educating all prescribers

13 in Virginia, anyone who prescribes opioids, as to

14 what the best practices are. Certainly a part of

15 what we want with education is for all prescribers

16 to understand what the CDC guidelines are, and

17 these regulations are based on that.

18 Now, that's not everything that are in these

19 regulations. Some of what's in these regulations

20 is exceedingly obvious because what they're

21 designed for, in part, is to give the board a clear

22 and unequivocal regulatory handle on pill mills; in

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1 other words, practices which aren't doing what are

2 just normal practices in any healthcare field in

3 terms of examination, history taking, the

4 rudimentaries of good patient care, which don't

5 happen in a practice which is seeing patient after

6 patient after patient and simply writing a

7 prescription.

8 These regulations include things such as a

9 7-day limit on prescribing of opioids for acute

10 pain, but because they were crafted by physicians

11 they include unless extenuating circumstances are

12 clearly documented in the patient record. So they

13 really allow for good practice of medicine without

14 having the hard limits that a prescribing bill

15 might have had.

16 They also require, for example,

17 co-prescribing of naloxone if certain circumstances

18 are met, such as an MME over 110, or concomitant

19 use of benzodiazepines, a history of drug abuse, or

20 overdose.

21 In addition to this providing, I like to

22 think education on best practices. I also think

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1 that these type of limits at the front end of

2 prescribing is what we really need to do to really

3 stop people from entering the pipeline of

4 addiction.

5 I think this morning Dr. Woodcock really

6 talked about that this epidemic is fueled by

7 legally prescribed opioids. And if we can get our

8 prescribers to understand appropriate use, I think

9 we can end up in an environment where we have fewer

10 people entering and either having a well-stocked

11 medicine cabinet because they didn't use them, or

12 developing a dependence or an addiction because

13 they've filled the entire prescription.

14 Also, these regulations support people

15 providing acute care, emergency physicians in the

16 sense that they clearly give someone the ability to

17 say, I'm sorry, I can't write you more than that

18 because these are the regulations I have to

19 practice under.

20 The concern we have is concern that's been

21 addressed here numerous times, which is will

22 prescribers opt-out rather than -- will they see

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1 these regulations to be cumbersome and opt-out of

2 treatment of patients who may be stable and may

3 have had ongoing opioid use in a way that's

4 effectively managed their pain, and what happens

5 then? And do we inadvertently have an increase in

6 deaths if some of those people end up moving

7 towards the street for their medications?

8 DR. LURIE: Okay. Great. Thank you.

9 Now everything's fair. Thanks, those are

10 very helpful comments.

11 I'm going to start with the following

12 question, not on the slide, and it's a question to

13 each of you.

14 All of you are involved, to one extent or

15 another, in state activities related to continuing

16 education on opioids or pain for physicians and

17 other prescribers. Under what conditions would you

18 conclude that what the state was doing was

19 insufficient?

20 Is that clear? What would lead you to say

21 that what we are doing at the state level is not

22 enough and we need somebody to help us out? How

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1 would you go about answering that question?

2 Because what we've heard, Lisa, from you is

3 that 29 states are taking a stab at this. Right?

4 So how might some of those 29 states say that's not

5 enough? Might some of the 21 other states

6 acknowledge that they haven't so far done anything?

7 MS. ROBIN: Well, I would like to comment on

8 that. I'll start out by saying we had just done a

9 recent survey of all of our state medical and

10 osteopathic boards to really identify what their

11 priorities are.

12 Well, opioid prescribing was number two of

13 everything that's of concern to state medical and

14 osteopathic boards. This is clearly an area that

15 they wanted to be an active participant. I think

16 things vary from state to state as far as capacity

17 and resources, but I would say a couple of things.

18 I think one thing that we are seeing are the

19 use of guidelines, and now we have our new

20 guidelines because I think that they're very good.

21 We had a very broad based group of folks working on

22 them from the regulatory boards, from CDC, FDA,

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1 AMA, AOA, and I think we have a document that

2 really sets that baseline as a good practice, as

3 you were talking about in Virginia, these type of

4 things that would cross all specialties.

5 I would just encourage all states to look at

6 how they can implement some sort of guidance

7 document and guidelines, whether they do it by

8 regulation or do it by guidelines, and then really

9 get it out to -- because if physicians and other

10 health professionals practice within those

11 guidelines, then certainly it would be applied

12 across the health professions.

13 I think that goes a long way because you can

14 use them in two ways. You can use them to educate,

15 and then you can also use them to help evaluate

16 care. So clearly, you have two levels -- you have

17 some well-meaning professionals that need to come

18 up to speed, then you have that all the education

19 in the world not's going to make a difference. But

20 I think that that's a good start.

21 There are certain reasons, whether it's

22 resources, which I would say that that is less than

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1 just the political environment and the support that

2 they may or may not get from their legislature and

3 the authority that they have within the state to

4 implement some of the guidelines.

5 So I don't know as far as resources, from a

6 federal perspective, what they can do to provide

7 those resources. But to support those, I think the

8 use of grants is great. We've worked with SAMHSA

9 in the past to be able to provide education at the

10 state level and regional level, so you can look at

11 that local -- and the needs are different,

12 different populations of people.

13 The other area I think is data. I think we

14 are talking about looking at education and

15 mandating education, voluntary or not voluntary. I

16 would say that's just one piece. We have the

17 ability now -- we have data from so many sources,

18 we should be able to identify those populations

19 that need specific training, education, or other

20 resources to better take care of their patients.

21 DR. LURIE: Okay. Who else would like to

22 comment?

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1 MR. BRASON: I'll comment. I think one of

2 the problems that we're seeing about what's missing

3 is everybody talks about the opioid epidemic, so

4 states who look at legislating, mandating

5 education, mandating prescribing, most of the time

6 is based on we have to stop the epidemic.

7 Are they really looking at it from are we

8 bettering best practice, or are we just doing

9 limits on that practice to ensure that there's no

10 diversion and the like, which to me, creates more

11 opt out rather than opt in.

12 I'm always very careful about -- I don't

13 want a legislator telling my doctor how to treat

14 me. So I think we have that, and part of that's

15 media driven and all of the above. I'm saying that

16 generally, not for every state, but I know in some

17 states, because I'm been in enough of them, it is

18 basically -- it's a move and a measure in order to

19 stop the opioid epidemic, rather than what is best

20 care, best practice for the patient of what their

21 need may be. And I think that's part of some of

22 the missing element that we have.

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1 DR. LURIE: Let me ask you about that. One

2 reason a person might say there's no need for

3 federal intervention is because, A, there's a lot

4 of education out there. And we've heard today

5 about all kinds of -- much more than I ever knew

6 about, going on at the state level, private

7 providers, et cetera, very diverse in FDA's REMS

8 program.

9 Are we at a stage of the epidemic that we

10 can say that the level of education being provided

11 is commensurate with the epidemic and its

12 direction?

13 MR. BRASON: It's much greater than what it

14 was. As I said earlier today --

15 DR. LURIE: The education level?

16 MR. BRASON: Yes, the education. In the

17 four years that we were doing statewide in North

18 Carolina, again, we had to initially push the

19 education. Now they're pulling the education. So

20 I think that tide has turned, so that if all of the

21 organizations that were up here and everything that

22 they're presenting, I think that is meeting a

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1 greater part of the need that might prohibit

2 federal intervention as long as there's validation

3 in every state that it is happening.

4 DR. LURIE: What do we do about the 21

5 states that don't have anything?

6 MR. BRASON: That's my point. They have to

7 do something, but that doesn't mean that they have

8 to mandate. If a state can say, okay, we know that

9 this is occurring with all our professional

10 organizations, the medical board, the licensing

11 board, and all of that is laid out, and they're

12 showing that the vast majority of their

13 practitioners, nurse practitioners, PAs, everybody,

14 are engaged in that in whatever infrastructure

15 they're using, rather than mandating from the

16 legislature, then I think they're meeting the need.

17 MR. BROWN: I would comment that of the

18 states that have mandatory CE, I'd be skeptical

19 that all of that is meaningful. And I'll say that

20 because I think Virginia's is not. Virginia

21 requires every two years a prescriber to get two

22 years of continuing education in a fairly broad

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1 category. Doesn't say exactly where; it doesn't

2 say exactly who provides it. It has to be

3 category 1 CME credits. That is a pretty small

4 amount of education, and we haven't necessarily

5 targeted what we need.

6 Looking at the bigger picture of who ends up

7 coming before licensing boards, I think that on

8 this issue, my impression -- and there's no data to

9 really back this up -- but my impression is that

10 prescribers who practice for the big systems, kind

11 of like the Kaiser presentation earlier today,

12 those systems are helping to make sure that they

13 are well educated.

14 In all of our boards, disproportionately

15 practitioners in small practices or solo practices

16 are the ones that come in. And on opioid

17 prescribing, they kind of come in, in two different

18 paths. They come in on the path where they have

19 not kept up their education. They're doing what

20 they've been doing for years with patients for whom

21 they've been prescribing this way. And they

22 probably learned to prescribe because when they

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1 were a resident, this is what the chief resident

2 did, or this is what the attending did.

3 Then you have the prescribers who are

4 knowingly making a lot of money by violating the

5 law. So you're not going to reach them anyway, but

6 we need to find a way to reach the prescribers who

7 aren't part of the big systems, who are receiving

8 the education, but are part of the smaller

9 practices and smaller systems that may not be

10 getting it as part of their credentialing. And for

11 that reason I think having a more structured

12 program could be beneficial.

13 DR. LURIE: Joanna, what can you tell us

14 about an experience in New Mexico that might be

15 like that?

16 DR. KATZMAN: I can tell you that experience

17 in New Mexico has really been -- there has not been

18 a chilling effect with the mandated pain and safe

19 opiate prescribing education in the past five, six

20 years. It's now an audited program, and all the

21 clinical licensing boards, meaning 10 percent of

22 the clinicians are audited. There's been no

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1 chilling effect as I said.

2 As Lisa has alluded to and so has Peter,

3 there are very different requirements among the 29

4 states who now do require some pain CME, and it is

5 very different among states. Some require pain for

6 certain clinicians, and not others. Some require

7 pain in end of life. Some require pain just if you

8 have a pain practice, and some not others.

9 I think if there was a way to create a

10 common denominator among the states -- I don't

11 think it's going to be easy, but I especially think

12 if we could get the other 21 states on board with

13 some key leadership from Lisa's shop creating the

14 CO*RE curriculum with educating about screening for

15 opiate addiction, non-pharmacotherapy/

16 pharmacotherapy related to non-opiate management,

17 all of the good things that we've talked about, I

18 do think that a local solution is the optimal way

19 to go.

20 There are huge cultural differences across

21 this country, whether or not you're teaching

22 clinicians how to take care of their patients in a

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1 rural setting, in an urban underserved setting, in

2 a setting with predominantly Hispanic population,

3 in a setting with predominantly African Americans

4 or American Indians, there's huge cultural

5 differences.

6 I think if we go to the DEA checkbox, it

7 would have to be all by Schedule 2 through

8 Schedule 5; that would work as well. And I think

9 that the issues there would be just actually as

10 difficult and may take just as long. I do think

11 ultimately it is going to be more optimal to have a

12 state solution. That's just my thinking.

13 DR. LURIE: Let me push back on that for a

14 second. You point to various -- I don't want to

15 call them unique, but specific circumstances that

16 exist in New Mexico, and those are undeniable. But

17 the question in deciding whether or not to have a

18 national standard, in part, seems to me is whether

19 or not those differences are so substantial that

20 you might produce a wholly different curriculum in

21 a different place.

22 I mean, do you think that's the case?

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1 DR. KATZMAN: No. I apologize, Dr. Lurie.

2 That's not what I'm saying at all.

3 DR. LURIE: Okay.

4 DR. KATZMAN: What I'm suggesting is

5 creating a curriculum, a national curriculum that

6 the states would adopt that would be a common

7 denominator for all the states, but that there

8 would be flexibility, wiggle room, to incorporate

9 components of cultural sensitivity for different

10 patient populations that might be seen in some

11 states or more than other states, where the

12 clinical licensing boards had relationship with

13 their clinicians.

14 What I know from working with Project ECHO

15 for seven, eight years now, is that clinicians who

16 come for training, they're much more likely to come

17 to you if they know you. If you're going to take a

18 training with a checkbox with the DEA, you're not

19 going to nearly be as invested in what that

20 training is, whereas if you're in your home state

21 taking a training, you might get the training in a

22 different state related to pain society, your

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1 addiction society, the AMA, AAFP.

2 That's great because it relates to you. But

3 if you're getting it from your home state, it means

4 something more to you, and that's just my feeling

5 about it, the local solution.

6 DR. LURIE: Let me push back on even that,

7 though, since I seem to be making a habit of

8 pushing back. Do you think the physicians even

9 know, in general, where the education comes from?

10 Do they even know who's requiring it? Do they know

11 who laid out the blueprint for it?

12 They certainly don't take it in the state,

13 necessarily in the state, where they licensed. In

14 fact, they typically head to Hawaii as far as I can

15 tell, or if they have good judgment, New Mexico.

16 But is there even their identity at the local level

17 along the lines that you're describing?

18 DR. KATZMAN: Well, my hope is that within

19 the next five, six years when pre-licensure

20 education catches up to where we are right now with

21 the epidemic, with medical schools, pharmacy

22 schools, dental schools, and nursing schools, my

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1 hope is that this conversation won't be as critical

2 because we are not going to be teaching so many

3 clinicians who are so delinquent in their

4 post-licensure education in pain and opiate

5 management because they will have gotten it in all

6 of their medical education, which by the way is

7 delivered at a local level as well.

8 I think either solution is fair. I just

9 think that it's been successful locally in New

10 Mexico, and I think it can be successful locally

11 elsewhere.

12 DR. LURIE: Melinda? You haven't had a

13 chance to jump in yet.

14 MS. BECKER: Sure, yes. I think that we

15 would certainly agree that a locally driven

16 solution is typically ideal and certainly ideal in

17 this situation. As Lisa outlined, states are

18 increasingly working through their medical and

19 other licensing boards to establish these types of

20 education and training requirements.

21 I think I mentioned earlier that NGA last

22 year expressed support for the idea that there

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1 would be a national requirement tied to DEA

2 registration. But I think certainly resources and

3 some sort of national standard being developed at

4 the federal level that states could then adopt on

5 their own and tailor would also be very welcomed.

6 DR. LURIE: I know in the past, the federal

7 government has put out model acts. I know the

8 model Drug Paraphernalia Act is the one I'm most

9 familiar with. That's I suppose, a possibility,

10 and people could adopt it to the extent they did.

11 I think we're seeing from a FDA, the

12 beginnings of an initial blueprint, and now a

13 revised blueprint, upon which, as was pointed out,

14 we'd love to receive comment. I'm not hearing a

15 lot of disagreement about the blueprint. We

16 haven't gotten the comments into the docket yet,

17 and I'm sure there'll be nuances. But are we at a

18 place now that people, generally speaking, agree on

19 what ought to be the contents of an educational

20 program? You want to take that, Lisa?

21 MS. ROBIN: I can. I'm not sure. I don't

22 think one course and one size fits all makes sense.

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1 I think it loses its meaning and that it needs

2 individual physicians and professionals that

3 prescribe having their self-assessment data to know

4 where their gaps of learning are. I think that's

5 the way we need to go.

6 I do, however, firmly believe that there is

7 a basic set of good practice that goes across all

8 specialties, and that that certainly could be a

9 national standard, and I think that that's the

10 direction that we're going.

11 I think that we have to be careful also that

12 you have all of these different requirements. Not

13 only do you have requirements for the mandated CME

14 from the state, which vary. You also have 24

15 states that have a state-controlled substance

16 regulation. Texas is the Department of Public

17 Safety. Some states have tied education to that

18 registration.

19 Then you have the systems, and they're going

20 to have requirements for their own medical staff

21 privileges, and you're seeing more and more -- now

22 we're to the point I think more than 50 percent of

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1 physicians are employed, which is of benefit,

2 because you're exactly right. When we look at

3 disciplinary data, the people that get in trouble

4 for -- I'm not talking about the criminal behavior,

5 but otherwise, are really practicing in more of an

6 isolated area. They don't have that support. They

7 don't have the toolkits to be able to have

8 their -- they can't compare themselves with their

9 peers and all of those questions. And then you

10 have a good number of physicians that are licensed

11 in multiple states.

12 So that's another thing that would drive a

13 national standard. You have 6 percent that have

14 licenses in three or more states. So you're

15 getting up to 20 percent of physicians in the

16 country, and now with telemedicine, that is only

17 going to grow. And they have different renewal

18 requirements in all those states.

19 So I think that an education -- and I think

20 that we are moving in that direction. And I'll

21 just add one thing.

22 There's a tri-regulator collaborative of the

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1 Federation of State Medical Boards, the National

2 Council of State Boards of Nursing, and the

3 National Association of Boards of Pharmacy. We

4 have been, for just the last few years, been

5 meeting. The leadership's been meeting. But this

6 year in July, we're having a conference, and the

7 whole conference is exactly focusing on how we can

8 address this.

9 These are the forums where you have all of

10 the state boards, various boards represented, that

11 you can look at can we come to an agreement on a

12 way to whether it's voluntary or mandated. But if

13 it becomes the standard of care, I think that's

14 going to drive it.

15 As I said, state medical boards, without

16 mandating can still mandate because it's considered

17 professional conduct that you are competent to

18 treat whatever condition that you're treating. I

19 mean, it's affirmatively stated in our new

20 guidelines. So it's the responsibility that

21 lifelong learning is part of their responsibility

22 of good practice.

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1 So I think that it's moving in that

2 direction without a mandate. I am really more of a

3 carrots person as well, but I think that we can

4 move in that direction. But I do firmly believe

5 that that needs to happen at the local level for it

6 to be well-received, otherwise, if it's a checkbox

7 on the DEA registration, I'm not sure how

8 meaningful and how engaged the individuals will be

9 in the educational programming.

10 DR. LURIE: Okay.

11 MS. BECKER: Can I just add something

12 quickly?

13 DR. LURIE: Yes, please.

14 MS. BECKER: I just want to draw a parallel,

15 and I'm curious if others think this is relevant,

16 but thinking about the CDC's weird prescribing

17 guideline released last year, a voluntary

18 guideline, sort of a national standard, and

19 thinking about how states have used that to update

20 their own guidelines or develop new guidelines, as

21 we're thinking about is there some national model

22 or curriculum that could be put forward and how

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1 states might use that going forward.

2 I think we've seen some examples of how

3 states have reacted to the guideline, but I'm not

4 sure that there's been necessarily a lot of -- I

5 mean, others may know more, but I don't know that

6 there's necessarily been a lot direct action on the

7 part of states in response to guideline.

8 MS. ROBIN: I think it's a huge topic of

9 discussion among the medical boards. You see it on

10 their agendas. I do think that the

11 guidelines -- and now that we're looking across, a

12 number of people are developing guidelines. There

13 is a movement to make those all in alignment. We

14 were really careful with ours, that they are

15 aligned.

16 So I think there are certain -- you leave

17 enough room for states to be able to adjust. We

18 don't have hard stops recommended. But I think

19 that that really -- those type of guidelines,

20 that's the basis of your national standard. And I

21 think you're seeing those CDC guidelines quoted and

22 used by medical boards I know as they're looking at

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1 cases, because I hear them quoted over and over

2 again.

3 MS. BECKER: Yeah. And it certainly

4 inspired some of the statutory limits, I know. But

5 sorry. Go ahead.

6 MR. BROWN: If I could comment, certainly

7 the CDC guidelines were the basis of the

8 regulations that the Board of Medicine in Virginia,

9 Board of Dentistry in Virginia created. But at the

10 same time, there's another agency, the state

11 Medicaid agency in Virginia has embarked on an

12 effort to influence prescribing behavior through

13 its pre-authorization process, and they also used

14 the Board of Medicine guidelines and the CDC

15 guidelines in their process.

16 Specifically, they do things like if it's a

17 non-opioid, no pre-authorization. If it's a

18 short-acting opioid for less than 14 days, no

19 pre-authorization. And then the authorization form

20 itself tracks the CDC guidelines. So the

21 authorization, the person is attesting that they

22 have co-prescribed naloxone if there's a

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1 concomitant benzo use, or that they have followed

2 other parts that are in those guidelines.

3 What's come out of that, they have great

4 data on how they've had about a 30 percent decrease

5 in the number of pills prescribed in the first

6 quarter since this was enacted. But at the same

7 time, the number of patients receiving a

8 prescription only went down like 15 percent.

9 So in other words, it wasn't a matter of

10 people being cutoff; it was a matter of prescribing

11 behavior changing. And my personal opinion is in

12 Virginia, this is going to spread beyond Medicaid

13 because at the end of the day, Medicaid saves money

14 doing that.

15 So I think that's going to be attractive to

16 other health plans to look at this as a mechanism

17 for good practice using the CDC guidelines and at

18 the same time saving money.

19 DR. LURIE: Another reason why one might

20 prefer the state-based solution would be if the

21 epidemics were very different from one another.

22 One's got a methamphetamine epidemic, one's got a

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1 large epidemic, one's got a small one, one's got

2 heroin.

3 Does anybody on the panel think that the

4 epidemics are different enough from state to state

5 that that in and of itself justifies a state-based

6 solution?

7 MR. BRASON: There are two ways to look at

8 that. If you're looking at strictly from a

9 prescribing level and making opioids available and

10 that is the culprit of the epidemic, or you look at

11 social determinants of poverty, trauma, all of

12 those factors that lead to coping mechanisms that

13 lead to substance use, those are different in

14 various population groups in various states. So

15 that convolutes the question in that to be able to

16 answer.

17 I think states know themselves the best.

18 You asked the question earlier, do people really

19 know where their curriculum is coming from, who's

20 doing this? I'd say, yes, they do. There's a

21 handful. You've either got your health system

22 doing it. You either have a few universities.

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1 People become accustomed to who they go to for

2 their CMEs and for their education outside of their

3 professional group, so that I think helps.

4 I think some of the REMS that have been

5 brought forth and made available already, that

6 question's true. I don't know who's doing this. I

7 just know that it's available. I'm going to this

8 conference. They're going to give me 8 hours, but

9 I have no clue who's doing it.

10 So how much of that really tracked into

11 general practice, I don't know, but I know from the

12 local level, it does track into general practice.

13 DR. LURIE: Just a follow-up on my question.

14 What is there about the North Carolina, since

15 that's where you're from, opioid epidemic and

16 related prescribing issues that would be so

17 irrelevant that you wouldn't mention it in New

18 Mexico? Could there be anything like that?

19 MR. BRASON: Yes, because we have that from

20 certain counties in North Carolina. "Oh, we've

21 only had two deaths. What are you talking about?

22 There's no issue here." And then we have to show

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1 them, yes, there is, because they're not looking at

2 everything.

3 So I think you would have that. I know from

4 just with Indian Health's --

5 DR. LURIE: But those folks are wrong

6 though, right?

7 MR. BRASON: Right. Right, but --

8 DR. LURIE: There may be disagreements about

9 certain facts, but we deal in actual facts, not

10 alternative ones. So if they're not right about

11 that, then okay, I want to know about something

12 that's factually different that would --

13 MR. BRASON: Yes, like Indian Health

14 Services, I've worked with enough reservations that

15 some, "We don't have an opioid problem. It's all

16 methamphetamine." It's just not evident on the

17 opioid side, but look at our methamphetamine

18 problem and it's huge. Therefore, it doesn't --

19 DR. LURIE: So would you not mention heroin

20 to them?

21 MR. BRASON: I'd mention everything to them.

22 DR. LURIE: Right.

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1 MR. BRASON: Yes. Yes.

2 DR. LURIE: Joanna?

3 DR. KATZMAN: I would say that I think what

4 you're asking is a little bit different, Dr. Lurie,

5 in that I would pose it like, of course there are

6 going to be differences among states that require

7 some cultural sensitivity and some flexibility

8 among states. But by far and away, there is going

9 to be a common curriculum that would cover all

10 states.

11 Of course every clinician who has

12 prescribing authority and even clinicians perhaps

13 that don't have prescriptive authority, nurses and

14 the healthcare team in general, need to have

15 training in the core content areas that we've

16 talked about many times. I do think it is

17 important that at the local level, people go to

18 conferences together. The five of us might go to a

19 conference together on a Saturday morning. If it

20 was a DEA thing or a REMS thing where you're at a

21 conference, you might not go with a friend.

22 Also, who you're getting the training from

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1 locally, you might know the speaker. We've shown

2 this over and over again in many studies with ECHO,

3 many learning studies, with a learning curriculum

4 and education learning loops and feedback, who you

5 get the curriculum from counts. Who you get the

6 curriculum from matters. You can contact that

7 person. You can ask them a question.

8 Those are differences at the local level.

9 But I do agree with you, Peter, that by far and

10 away, the content is going to be exactly the same.

11 There are going to be little differences here and

12 there.

13 MR. BROWN: If I could just briefly comment,

14 I agree that the content can be the same for

15 different states. I don't think the differences

16 are so much between states as within a state.

17 Certainly in Virginia, southwest Virginia where the

18 opioid deaths are worse, it's almost entirely

19 prescription drugs. If you go into Tidewater and

20 parts of Northern Virginia, it's heroin. And that

21 does mean that there's some tailoring of education

22 that can occur within a state.

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1 DR. LURIE: Okay. Lisa?

2 MS. ROBIN: I just wonder, if looking at the

3 presentations we heard this morning, and then also

4 looking at the states that have shown some pretty

5 significant progress of late, they all have -- it's

6 not just one program. It's not just CME. And

7 there are many different learning modalities and

8 individual coaching.

9 It seems like that's where the success is

10 going to lie, versus one curriculum for one

11 delivery, means I don't how effective that -- and I

12 think we just need to be a little more open. And

13 we should have the ability to have -- I mean, I

14 think that there is some basic principles, but then

15 on top of that, there are different groups of

16 healthcare professionals that have different needs

17 and different levels of need of training.

18 I think we should be able to -- I can't

19 imagine that if we're able to use our

20 resources -- I know many states are using

21 prescribing data and other things to identify who

22 those people are that need -- they may need some

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1 intervention, may need individual coaching.

2 I think if it's left to the local level,

3 there are medical boards I know that do that to

4 some degree. They identify people working with

5 their PDMP data. They go, and they will travel to

6 southwest Virginia and have individual meetings, if

7 you will.

8 So I think we just have to cautious about

9 that. Then also the ability to repurpose whatever

10 type of education that they are continuing

11 professional development, that they are

12 participating in, should be able to meet the needs

13 on all these different requirements that you may,

14 however, whatever we wind up with, whether it's

15 mandatory, DEA, or state level, to make it less of

16 a burden. I think that that's something that we

17 really have to be cautious about.

18 DR. LURIE: Another dimension to this debate

19 is the mandatory, voluntary part, right? It tracks

20 to a degree with the federal/state in some respects

21 because you might implement -- we might be more

22 tempted to put something in mandatorily if you

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1 thought it was more serious. And the same thing

2 might be true, that it might be a criterion for

3 federal involvement if you thought the problem was

4 more serious. On the other hand, if you thought

5 the problem was going away, then you might be

6 willing to wait.

7 Are there folks on this stage who feel that

8 the current level of education is adequate, looked

9 at nationally? Do we feel that we're currently in

10 a place that we can look at what we have, either in

11 terms of the content or in terms of the extent of

12 it, or in terms of its dissemination throughout the

13 medical prescribing community, that we're satisfied

14 right now?

15 Is anybody happy?

16 MR. BROWN: No.

17 MS. ROBIN: No.

18 MS. BECKER: No.

19 MR. BRASON: Adequate in what way? I mean,

20 adequate to meet the need? Because I think there's

21 a great deal out there on prescribing, but how much

22 is out there on actual pain management that

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1 actually can even transfer to -- there's nothing

2 else available but me writing a prescription.

3 DR. LURIE: No. I don't think there's a

4 problem of availability. What I feel like I've

5 learned from this meeting is that actually there's

6 a ton of stuff out there. There's a ton of stuff.

7 There's a choice. You can get bad [indiscernible]

8 education, and you can get it in Hawaii. I mean,

9 there's a lot of choice.

10 I don't think -- you can quibble its content

11 for sure, but I'm asking is the current level of

12 physician education on this question, satisfactory?

13 I hope that's the question you answered. But

14 that's what I mean by that, Fred.

15 MR. BRASON: Okay. All right. I'd say no,

16 also, because it hasn't reached everybody who needs

17 to be reached yet.

18 DR. KATZMAN: Same.

19 DR. LURIE: What about the question

20 of -- within a state, one of the things that I've

21 also looked at, as you have Lisa, some states have

22 requirements for all prescribers and some have for

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1 controlled substances prescribers only.

2 Do people on the panel have a view on that?

3 Because that is an area of inconsistency between

4 states. Again, a criterion, if you ask the Supreme

5 Court, when does the Supreme Court step in at a

6 federal level? It steps in when there's a split in

7 the circuits. We have a split in the circuits

8 here. Right? Half the states don't have anything,

9 and within the other half, there are very large

10 differences. That can be a criterion.

11 Do people have a view on that? Is focusing

12 on the controlled substance prescribers sufficient

13 or is this -- I suppose it depends on what this is,

14 but I guess the packet of pain and opioid. Let’s

15 call it that packet.

16 Is it something that we can cabin off just

17 for the controlled substance prescribers, or is it

18 really for everybody?

19 MR. BROWN: I'll just agree with the point

20 Fred brought up a little while ago, which is I

21 think that as a society, if we're only focusing on

22 prescribers and what they do, and we don't figure

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1 out a way to address the socioeconomic factors that

2 are driving some communities to be

3 desperate -- suicide, methamphetamine,

4 alcoholism -- it's just going to be whack-a-mole.

5 To that degree, just focusing on

6 prescribers, I think it's important to do. I think

7 it's a good first step. But in the long run, if we

8 don't bring in behavioral health and other

9 healthcare providers, if we don't extend it to

10 social services, to the court systems, and if we

11 don't have -- I mean, the only -- if I look at

12 Virginia, the things that give me hope are

13 communities where they've formed effective

14 coalitions that involve healthcare, involve social

15 services, involve the courts, involve criminal

16 justice. Those are places where you can actually

17 see differences being made.

18 DR. LURIE: That brings up another question.

19 I think everybody on the panel would agree that

20 education on its own is insufficient. In fact, I

21 think everybody in this room would agree to that.

22 You need a multicomponent, comprehensive approach.

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1 I think everybody will agree, whether you're

2 getting into much more elaborate approach, and not

3 to negate it, but I think in terms -- most people

4 would say a bit of PDMP, a bit of methadone

5 treatment, a bit of what have you, bit of

6 education, bit of DUR. Between those things, you

7 might come up with a reasonable package.

8 We heard some conversation this morning

9 saying education, it probably doesn't even work.

10 And Joanna, you've got some data that -- Fred, both

11 of you really -- that argue otherwise. But my

12 question to you all is how sure do we need to be

13 that education is effective before we require it?

14 What is the evidence bar? Do we need a

15 randomized trial that shows reductions in

16 overdoses? Do we need just a well-intentioned,

17 good argument put together by educators? Or is it

18 someplace in between?

19 How do we decide how much evidence we need

20 before we go about mandatorily requiring something?

21 Joanna?

22 DR. KATZMAN: Well, first I might add -- do

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1 you mind if I speak, Fred? First, I might add that

2 education through other venues, in addition to our

3 UNM courses, our Indian Health Service virtual

4 courses, through are Project ECHO courses for which

5 we've given, many have shown significant increases

6 in knowledge, self-efficacy, and practice change

7 over the past eight years. And this has been

8 related to chronic pain and safe opioid management.

9 I think education definitely does work.

10 Also, the VA has published several papers on

11 their SCAN ECHO, and this is voluntary on their

12 SCAN ECHO pain telemetry program, showing that

13 their education program does work. It also drops

14 opiate prescribing, saves a lot of money, and

15 increases prescriptions for naloxone and other

16 benefits. And I think also Dr. Good showed that as

17 well. And again, that's an organization, not a

18 state level.

19 So I'll just leave it at that. I do think

20 that education does work. That's why we all go

21 through -- we all end up where we're ending up

22 after our post-licensure training.

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1 MR. BROWN: I think the fact that we're in a

2 crisis, that this is an emergency, the Health

3 Commissioner of Virginia declared a public health

4 emergency, means you don't really have the luxury

5 of waiting when you have common-sense solutions

6 that are not that burdensome or expensive to try.

7 DR. LURIE: You're saying it seems to make

8 sense. If there's no reason to expect an adverse

9 consequence --

10 MR. BROWN: Yes.

11 DR. LURIE: -- that those things lower the

12 evidence bar. Is that a fair statement?

13 MR. BROWN: Yes, in a state of emergency.

14 DR. LURIE: And being a state of

15 emergency --

16 MR. BROWN: Yes, being something else, you

17 might say, well, we can wait five years and do some

18 trials and figure something out. Well, I feel like

19 with this, no, we can't.

20 DR. LURIE: Let me ask you a practical

21 question. Let's say that tomorrow either the DEA

22 or FDA stepped in, and there was some federal

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1 requirement for mandatory education. What would

2 the states do?

3 Would you say, all right, that's a job done.

4 We're going to cancel the state CME requirement.

5 Would you make it lineup with the federal

6 requirement? We've heard a lot about

7 duplicativeness and confusion.

8 What would the states' reaction on day one

9 be? Why don't I put it to you, David.

10 MR. BROWN: Well, certainly in Virginia, we

11 will align with federal requirements. We don't

12 buck them. But at the same time, I think we're

13 aware, sometimes there's federal requirements we

14 agree with, and sometimes there are federal

15 requirements we think don't quite make the mark.

16 And if they don't quite make the mark, we may

17 accept a federal requirement, but at the same time

18 have other requirements of our own.

19 I don’t think it would in any way lessen our

20 efforts to create something, unless we felt like

21 going, wow, this is exactly what we were looking

22 for.

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1 DR. LURIE: Okay. Lisa?

2 MS. ROBIN: I think I would certainly not

3 speak for how the reaction from Massachusetts would

4 be versus Texas.

5 (Laugher.)

6 MS. ROBIN: I think you'd find it to be very

7 different. But I do want to correct one thing,

8 because we keep saying, well, 21 states don't do

9 anything. I disagree with that.

10 Just because there's not a specified

11 mandate, that does not mean that there's not

12 education and all sorts of work going on to educate

13 and put strategies in place to address opioid

14 issues.

15 Absolutely. The mandate, you can discuss

16 that all day, if that's really effective or not,

17 and if it should be targeted. But I do think that

18 we need some more research to look at what really

19 does work. We need to look at outcomes, not just a

20 reduction in the number of prescriptions, but look

21 at the metrics. And I think that, certainly, we

22 need to pour some resources into that.

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1 I know that that is where we could -- the

2 states could use that to do some studies. There's

3 certainly a willingness of them looking at how you

4 can do some predicative modeling, too, with looking

5 at the discipline and who comes before the medical

6 board, what were they trained in and were they

7 trained.

8 You're making headway with the medical

9 schools and residency programs because that was a

10 real problem with the lack of education, and now

11 that we're trying to get it. And to carry it

12 through to continue is really important. But I

13 really encourage that to put some federal resources

14 toward that would be well spent, I believe.

15 DR. LURIE: Okay.

16 MS. BECKER: I agree with both David and

17 Lisa. I think certainly the response would vary by

18 state for a number of reasons, depending on what

19 requirements they have in place, their general

20 relationship with the federal government.

21 I do think it would be really important to

22 create a mechanism. And I think Doris alluded to

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1 this as a possibility earlier, where a state could

2 potentially seek a waiver from the federal

3 requirement if they one had one in place already

4 that met certain standards.

5 As David said, I think there'd be some

6 states that would look to align their programs.

7 There would be other states that would see this as

8 sort of another layer, or their state requirements

9 rather add another layer to federal foundation.

10 MR. BRASON: I agree also. In some states,

11 it would be problematic. Other states it would

12 not. I like the waiver idea, because then you have

13 that opt out but still doing scenario. I think

14 that would make it more palatable in that regard.

15 But if you look at, okay, it's a legislative

16 act, this is mandated right now, then you've got to

17 go back to those legislatures to undo that to bring

18 about change. That's not quick, nor is it easy.

19 In that, logistically it becomes problematic.

20 Then if you've got, like you said,

21 practitioners in multiple states, then you've got

22 another possible layer there that they have to work

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1 through that becomes problematic, almost needing

2 their own individual admin assistant just to work

3 through all that.

4 So I think it would not be easy and could

5 create potential consequences that we don't want.

6 DR. KATZMAN: I agree.

7 DR. LURIE: If a more voluntary approach

8 were to be taken, and this question was asked to

9 the previous panel, who do you see as those

10 entities that would be best suited to deliver that

11 form of education? Who'd like to take a crack at

12 that?

13 You nodded. I'm tempted to call on you,

14 Lisa, because you nodded.

15 MS. ROBIN: No, that wasn't a nod.

16 (Laughter).

17 DR. LURIE: It could be quite dangerous to

18 that in a situation like this. David?

19 MR. BROWN: I think we've already kind of

20 covered the way in which healthcare systems can do

21 a very good job of -- well, it's voluntary for

22 them, it's not voluntary for their members

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1 necessarily, their prescribers.

2 The problem a state medical board has is it

3 doesn't necessarily have in-house expertise on

4 pain, on addiction. In fact, looking at the

5 current Board of Medicine in Virginia, we don't

6 have any of that. So when we did our regs, we had

7 to bring in an advisory panel of experts to help us

8 craft that.

9 Unlike say a health system, which, by its

10 nature, probably has experts in each of these

11 areas, to create something that's voluntary, I'm

12 not exactly sure how the state boards would create

13 an incentive for anyone to do anything. We mainly

14 create disincentives by having regulations to say

15 if you fail to do this and we find out about it,

16 you could be in trouble; you're putting your

17 license at risk. So we have disincentives more

18 than we have incentives.

19 DR. LURIE: Lisa, in your survey of the

20 states, have you seen states that have tried to

21 incentivize the education, as opposed to just

22 coming with a stick?

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1 MS. ROBIN: Well, I don't know that it is

2 the state boards that would be the people to

3 incentivize a voluntary program. I think there's

4 plenty of other people that could incentivize, and

5 I think it's their responsibility to incentivize.

6 You have the payers and you have the

7 professional liability carriers. I think that

8 there are ways to incentivize through the new

9 payment models. We're going to looking at new

10 payment models. I think that is where you

11 incorporate the incentives for the programs.

12 I do see that the state boards are more in

13 the area -- if it is something mandated in the

14 states, they're responsible for making sure that's

15 reported, and they mostly do a random audit or

16 something like that. But they're not going to be

17 the -- that's not going to be the place where you

18 go to register for a program. That's the

19 responsibility of the specialty societies and all

20 the CME providers that develop these programs. I

21 don't know that they even have the ability to

22 incentivize.

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1 MR. BRASON: But I agree with those that

2 you're talking about that can and should.

3 MS. ROBIN: They can, and they should.

4 MR. BRASON: Yes. The liability malpractice

5 and all of that, that you've completed this much

6 education, you've got no dings, then you should

7 have a reduced -- and that is an incentive.

8 DR. LURIE: Joanna?

9 DR. KATZMAN: I can just say that I guess

10 I'm a little bit of a skeptic, that if the thought

11 at the conclusion at the end of tomorrow is that we

12 should bring it back to the state level with

13 perhaps an FDA blueprint as the core with some

14 wiggle room for the states to decide how they want

15 to do the rest of the training because of cultural

16 diversity or what have you -- I really think that

17 if there was a core 2 to 3 hours of training, it

18 would not be too burdensome, if you could show the

19 clinicians across the state with prescriptive

20 authority that this an emergency, this is a

21 healthcare crisis with chronic pain and the opioid

22 epidemic.

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1 What I can tell is anecdotal -- not even

2 anecdotal, for the past five years at Project ECHO,

3 we've had two insurance companies say that they

4 will give clinicians $100, one $100, one $150, if

5 they present a case to Project ECHO. So a

6 clinician anywhere in the country, if they present

7 a case to Project ECHO, that clinician will get a

8 free CME for every hour that they come on board.

9 It has been extremely unsuccessful, and I

10 can get you the numbers for that. It's not been

11 very successful, the incentivization from insurance

12 companies for clinical education, and that's been

13 voluntary even. We had 100 percent participation

14 when we needed to get all clinicians in New Mexico

15 prescribe -- the 5-hour training. That's just been

16 my experience.

17 DR. LURIE: Just a factual matter, Lisa.

18 Those requirements at the state level when they

19 exist, they're typically of the 50 hours over

20 2 years that people typically are required --

21 MS. ROBIN: On the renewal cycle, yes.

22 DR. LURIE: Right. But what I'm trying to

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1 say is these things are not add-ons. If you've got

2 to do 50 hours over 2 years and you have 3 hours of

3 opioid, let's say, that then you've got 47 fewer

4 hours to go, right?

5 MS. ROBIN: Usually, yes, it would be part

6 of the overall --

7 DR. LURIE: The burdensome argument

8 applies -- I mean, if it were a DEA requirement on

9 top of it, then that's some increment of burden,

10 3 hours on top of say 50 over 2 years, so

11 6 percent. But within the states, it's burdensome

12 to the extent that you don't want to take that CME;

13 you want to be learning about Wilson's disease,

14 right?

15 MS. ROBIN: Yes, choose, yes.

16 DR. LURIE: Right.

17 MS. ROBIN: Right. And I mean, some states

18 have particular things that they need everyone in

19 their state to know about. For instance, in

20 Kentucky, it's required that they know about their

21 PDMP. There's specific curriculum around that. We

22 had to build it in to some programs we did for

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1 them. Well, someone that's practicing in Oklahoma

2 doesn't need to know how to use the Kentucky

3 system. So there are certain elements that are

4 definitely state specific.

5 MR. BROWN: To talk about the incentive

6 structure, the fact of the matter is that organized

7 medicine, organized dentistry, organized whatever

8 field it is, hate to have the legislature tell them

9 what to do, and with good reason. To legislate the

10 practice of healthcare is looked down upon. But

11 they actually also dislike anyone telling them what

12 to do.

13 To some degree, that stems from the fact

14 that the people who participate in organized

15 medicine in the state medical society, in the AMA,

16 state dental association, whichever, typically are

17 well-educated, well-informed, active participants,

18 and who have a different viewpoint than say the

19 state board who frequently sees those practitioners

20 who go through the motions, who practice remotely,

21 and get in trouble for doing ridiculously stupid

22 things.

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1 So creating an incentive structure

2 voluntarily goes against the very nature of some of

3 the people, anyway, you're expecting to step

4 forward. For example, we would not have the pain

5 regs we have if the legislature hadn't told us to.

6 So having that type of structure --

7 Now, I will back up and say because of this

8 crisis, I think in the Virginia, the medical side

9 of Virginia's been a very willing partner to fix,

10 to try to address this problem. The dental

11 association has been a very willing partner.

12 So I think it's a little bit different

13 climate in general, but I think having someone make

14 us do something, and I say me as health

15 professionals, it's not a bad idea.

16 Questions and Answers

17 DR. LURIE: I think it's time for questions

18 from the audience. Hopefully, we've stimulated you

19 to ask some good ones.

20 DR. KAHN: Yeah, you really did stimulate

21 some thinking. Norman Kahn from the Conjoint

22 Committee.

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1 I'm going to ask you if the states would

2 accept something like the following. It's based on

3 much of what I've learned from listening to you

4 all, which is that standardization is an issue.

5 Having the states require what they want is an

6 issue.

7 Not all clinicians need the same level of

8 training. They want to be incentivized to learn,

9 and they want whatever they're doing to align with

10 whatever else they have to do, and not be an added

11 burden.

12 So that if we develop modules that were

13 based on the FDA blueprint, that used an adaptive

14 learning model? For those of you that are

15 physicians participating in maintenance of

16 certification, this is what used to be MoC part 2.

17 Just to describe it briefly, I'm a family

18 physician. I participate in maintenance of

19 certification. Every year, I have to go online,

20 and I have to choose a module, take several hours,

21 and it's all questions. And eventually, I have to

22 get 80 percent of the questions right.

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1 But I was just telling my colleague over

2 there, I never stop until I get them all right,

3 because I want to know, even if I pass the

4 80 percent, what the right answers were. And if I

5 don't get it right, it asks me again. And if I

6 don't get it right, it gives me the answer and it

7 gives me the references. And I still have to go

8 back and take the test until I get it right.

9 Now we have something that is designed based

10 on the individual clinicians starting point,

11 wherever they are. It would count for MoC. It

12 would count maintenance of certification. It would

13 count for relicensure.

14 We talked with Doug and others earlier about

15 we're going to submit this to Medicare for a MIPS

16 improvement activity, or maybe in patient safety,

17 so it would align with what they have to do for

18 CMS. And they would definitely be learning, and

19 they would demonstrate their learning.

20 Would the states accept that?

21 MS. ROBIN: I think so. I don't know -- if

22 you can show that -- they're looking at the end

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1 result of that program. You have something that's

2 the adaptive model, I think it's great, as long as

3 they complete it. The states aren't specific

4 enough on -- they just want so much credit. They

5 want to see the outcome. So I do think that that

6 is definitely the way to go.

7 DR. KAHN: Virginia?

8 MR. BROWN: It sounds like it has good

9 potential to me.

10 MS. BECKER: And you're talking about a

11 voluntary program, to clarify, right?

12 DR. KAHN: It is. On the other hand, it

13 aligns with all of these things that clinicians in

14 their practices have to do. And if they do this,

15 then they'll get credit for being relicensed.

16 They'll get credit for their CME credit. They'll

17 get credit for maintenance certification. They can

18 use it for a MIPS improvement activity.

19 You can say it's voluntary, but there's so

20 much incentive there, that I'm going to do it.

21 DR. LURIE: There's a question over here.

22 DR. GREENBLATT: Larry Greenblatt from Duke,

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1 internal medicine physician. First I want to thank

2 the panel for a lot of really deep thinking and

3 great ideas that came up during this discussion. I

4 want to make a comment, and then I have a question.

5 The comment is just I think we need to be

6 careful not to target these efforts at the people

7 who come in front of state medical boards only. I

8 think that's absolutely the tip of the iceberg.

9 There's a huge number of people who need to change

10 their practice patterns, not just the ones who are

11 being called out.

12 But here's my question. I think if we're

13 going to do this, we have to focus not on clinician

14 knowledge, but on clinician behavior. I think it's

15 very easy to give CME that allows people to do

16 better on a test, or to demonstrate in some way

17 they learn the material, but are they actually

18 changing what they do?

19 While we're dealing with this huge opioid

20 epidemic, we have another epidemic, which I think

21 is important to talk about in this room, and that's

22 an epidemic of burnout and depression amongst

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1 healthcare providers. It's really bad. It's more

2 than half.

3 If you're asking people to change behavior

4 and to implement new practices that are time

5 consuming, and aren't reimbursed, and are

6 burdensome, you've got to remember that the people

7 that you're asking to do this, they're exhausted.

8 So how do we make sure that whatever we're

9 going to try to do results in better patient care?

10 I welcome anyone to try to answer that question.

11 (Laughter.)

12 DR. LURIE: Anybody want to take a crack at

13 it?

14 MS. ROBIN: No, I'm just saying it's a huge

15 issue, and we know that for a variety of reasons.

16 There's so much stressors on physicians, and it's a

17 huge issue: suicide, and burnout, and wellness

18 issues. And to do whatever we can to put a system

19 in that is not redundant and is not an additional

20 burden on what is already a burdensome system, I

21 think it's really, really important.

22 MR. BROWN: I think going back to what the

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1 physician from Kaiser mentioned, having something

2 that much of this can be integrated into the

3 workflow as possible with automatically checking

4 the PMP, unless you say no, or automatically doing

5 other things, so it becomes less of a burden and

6 the good practices are followed.

7 MR. BRASON: And I'll just toss it back to

8 you a little bit that, yes, we have to be sensitive

9 to that, but why are we in the place that we are

10 now in the healthcare systems with so much

11 depression and burnout? What is the causation of

12 that, that we need to address at the same time?

13 DR. LURIE: It's probably not 3 hours of

14 CME. On numerous December 31st's, when I was there

15 trying to finish off my state mandated CME on HIV,

16 it was a pain in the neck.

17 MR. BROWN: I did procrastinator CMEs.

18 MS. KEAR: Cynthia Kear with CO*RE. That

19 was a great discussion. I took lots of notes and

20 really appreciated everyone's insights and efforts.

21 Just a couple of observations or responses to some

22 points that came up, and then kind of a big

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1 opinion; I’ll just be honest about it.

2 One thing is that I think really inclusion

3 of other audiences is really important, and we made

4 this point to the FDA. But we've done surveys of

5 nurses. They are the ones that are doing so much

6 of the counseling and patient education. To not

7 include them is a travesty.

8 Pharmacists. I mean, who does consistently

9 tell people how to do their meds? But I also think

10 patients. I mean, I think patients have got to

11 belly up to the bar here. We've got to educate

12 them. They've got to be active in this. Somehow

13 that has got to be included in this education.

14 I'm not sure the blueprint is the right

15 place for it, but they do have to be. They're off

16 the stage right now, yet they're center stage to

17 the problem.

18 Someone was saying about quality of

19 education isn't sufficient. Education, we know

20 from principles of adult education, it takes seven

21 effective educational interventions before you'll

22 see somebody change their behavior. So knowledge

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1 is fairly easy, but what we want to see people do

2 is change behavior. If that's true, then we should

3 be looking at this from a very, very different

4 point of view.

5 The question was about the states; maybe

6 this was your point, about people like to hear at a

7 local level. Our experience is that people like to

8 hear from a similar clinician. An FP wants to hear

9 from an FP. They don't want some fancy schmancy

10 pain specialist coming in and talking down to them.

11 I think that's true around all clinician types. So

12 that's something I would suggest that we look at.

13 Two other points that relate to kind of now

14 process. In California, a number of years ago,

15 they developed out of reactivity from the state

16 legislature, 12 hours of mandated pain education.

17 It was just pick something up and throw it against

18 the wall, and it required a tremendous amount of

19 time and a tremendous amount of effort, and we know

20 nothing about it. Marsha Stanton [ph] asked me

21 about 10 years later, "What did we learn?" I said,

22 "No one knows."

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1 So the one thing that I would really suggest

2 that we consider in terms of this issue of national

3 versus state is not all state mandates are the

4 same, and will it be easier to actually have

5 quality control if something is implemented and

6 launched at a national level, so you can get common

7 information on practice gaps.

8 Yes, there might be variances depending upon

9 what the substance is or the particular cultural

10 background, but you can do some things that really

11 are going to help us to develop education that's

12 really targeted toward those most egregious

13 practice gaps, which are creating so much of the

14 problem.

15 We can also then create content to address

16 that, and then we can come up with a common design

17 program, so across all the states it could be

18 measured. Right now, California can't be measured.

19 Maybe Maryland can be. Maybe New York will be. I

20 have no idea who's developing these programs?

21 I appreciate pain expertise, I appreciate

22 addiction expertise, all kinds of clinical

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1 expertise, but there's also educational expertise,

2 and that would be a nice voice to have sitting at

3 the table as we try and come up with something

4 that's going to really be quite meaningful.

5 So for me it's a question of making sure

6 that the processes have some sort of comparable

7 quality. Maybe it doesn't really matter who

8 implements it or how it implements, but really that

9 they're really kind of a standardization in terms

10 of basic things we know about how to deliver design

11 and deliver and assess quality education.

12 DR. LURIE: Let me give the panel a chance

13 to react. You've said a lot and --

14 MS. KEAR: I've said a lot. I'll stop.

15 That's time for me to be quiet then. Thank you.

16 DR. LURIE: Does anybody on the panel want

17 to react to some elements of that?

18 (No response.)

19 DR. LURIE: It's an endorsement.

20 MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: A quick comment and a

21 question. The comment is I wonder whether there's

22 a mortality rate associated with education, so

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1 delivering that is not going to really hurt anyone

2 to actually get extra education. However, there's

3 a significant mortality rate with the control

4 substances at around 50,000 per year.

5 I just want to make sure we keep it in

6 scope. As a physician who makes a lot of money, I

7 have to take 4 extra hours of education to not kill

8 people? I think we just need to make sure and keep

9 it in perspective.

10 But realizing that better is sometimes the

11 enemy of good, what would you see as the minimum

12 viable product that the FDA and the national or the

13 federal system would be able to put out to the

14 states in order to move forward quickly as the

15 longer that we wait.

16 What is the minimum viable construct that

17 you think would be helpful for the states to be

18 able to start directing education within those

19 states?

20 DR. LURIE: Okay. Fair enough. Joanna?

21 DR. KATZMAN: Thank you for your question.

22 Our content that we delivered to most of the

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1 clinicians in New Mexico, to most of the clinicians

2 in the Indian Health Service, to many that we've

3 trialed and tested with the Army and Navy pain

4 clinicians, and primary care clinicians, the Army

5 and Navy has been 5 hours. Part of that has been

6 because we've also used standardized patients with

7 vignettes and so on.

8 I think that in order to deliver an overview

9 of the epidemic, include regulations pertaining to

10 state and federal requirements, and to be able to

11 offer content regarding pediatric and adolescent

12 pain in addition to the core content, which is how

13 to treat pain non-pharmacologically, how to treat

14 pain with non-opiate pharmacotherapy, and how to

15 screen for opioid addiction, and then how to treat

16 pain with opioids safely, my feeling having done

17 this for eight years, is a minimum of 4 hours, 3,

18 4 hours. If you're going to do it live or via BTC,

19 it is intensive, so 3 to 4 hours.

20 DR. LURIE: Over a two-year cycle, right?

21 Is that what you mean?

22 DR. KATZMAN: However you want to do it.

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1 DR. LURIE: That's how most do it.

2 (Crosstalk.) DR. KATZMAN: That's my

3 feeling. We did 5 hours because we added breakout

4 sessions and such.

5 DR. LURIE: Okay. Is there agreement that

6 any --

7 DR. KATZMAN: I forgot to mention, Peter,

8 that we also did -- we also added naloxone

9 take-back. We also incorporated dental specifics

10 on acute pain. The full first class would be a

11 5-hour course.

12 DR. LURIE: Is there agreement on the panel

13 that separating opioid prescribing from pain

14 management would be a mistake?

15 DR. KATZMAN: Can I just start with that? I

16 think that would be a significant mistake.

17 MR. BROWN: Agreed.

18 MS. ROBIN: Agreed.

19 DR. TERMAN: Greg Terman from University of

20 Washington and American Pain Society. My question

21 is for Lisa and Melinda specifically, and you may

22 have almost touched on it. But my question is, if

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1 there was a miraculous best education product out

2 there, do you think that the states would gather

3 around it or try and improve on it?

4 Having been involved in three Washington

5 state guidelines and CDC guidelines, it seems

6 sometimes that governors or legislators in the

7 states, maybe even boards, play the I can restrict

8 prescribing to 40 MED. I can restrict it to

9 20 MED. And of course, it's the numbers that

10 people remember.

11 What do you think about that? Are they

12 interested in collaborating, or are they trying to

13 get themselves in the news as yet another decrease

14 in restrictive practices?

15 MS. ROBIN: I can say that I think you've

16 got different audiences that you're talking about.

17 I think that from the boards, from the regulatory

18 boards, I would say that they are looking, and yes,

19 that resources would be well received.

20 I would say that the REMS blueprint before

21 was well received from the states. There was not

22 any pushback on the state boards wanting to get

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1 that education out to their licensees. We didn't

2 have any. They were anxious to -- if I had had

3 more resources to be able to provide more grants,

4 those boards would have done additional education.

5 Now, that doesn't mean that there is not

6 every legislator or -- they want their hands on

7 something and looking for a very quick fix, and

8 whether it's okay, well, we're just going to stop.

9 And they're not medical professionals, but it looks

10 like that's an easy thing. Let's say, well it's

11 going to have a hard stop here, and nobody

12 can -- and without necessarily looking at what the

13 evidence really is to support that, what are our

14 patient outcomes?

15 So I think you've got two different people.

16 Whether the governors and the legislators are

17 really looking for that common resource, and

18 looking at it from an education perspective versus

19 more of a prescriptive -- let's tell the doctors

20 and nurses and pharmacists how to practice -- or

21 are the regulators, who not only -- they have to

22 look at access. They have to look at they're

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1 trying to raise a whole standard of practice, and

2 at the same time take out the folks that are

3 misbehaving.

4 So I think you have two different varied

5 people there.

6 MS. BECKER: I agree completely. I'll just

7 say I think there will always be -- whether it's

8 governors or state legislatures who are trying to

9 be more visible and more publicly on the forefront,

10 if you will, on this issue. But I think, by and

11 large, they have varying capacities to develop

12 these evidence-based programs on their own, and I

13 think would really welcome the resources. I think

14 that you would see a very positive response from

15 the states if something like that were to come

16 together.

17 DR. LURIE: Okay. Great. I think we've

18 exhausted the expertise or insights of this panel.

19 We might have exhausted the audience. At that

20 point, I think it's time to stop.

21 Doug, you have some closing comments to

22 make, and then I think that we'll end the day.

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1 Closing Remarks – Douglas Throckmorton

2 DR. THROCKMORTON: That was terrific, and

3 I'll just start by thanking the panels, both the

4 panels this afternoon, in keeping the focus on

5 education, which is, again, really the thing that

6 we're looking for help on in this particular area.

7 There's a lot that we could be talking about.

8 Thank you for especially this last panel staying

9 laser-focused on that and not other activities that

10 we could be talking about.

11 I heard some things where consensus seemed

12 to emerge, so I'm going to say them, and just we'll

13 see how it goes. I heard some things that I don't

14 believe we've yet gotten to consensus on, so I'm

15 going to just try to summarize what I've heard.

16 One, Peter as you said, there is just an

17 enormous amount of educational activity going on at

18 the federal/state healthcare system local levels, a

19 large change over where we were when we first

20 talked about needing the REMS, I would say; this

21 last few years, really just an explosion in terms

22 of the amount of focus on education and training.

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1 The first question was is education enough?

2 Okay, if anyone thinks that it is, please raise

3 your hand. But I think consensus was it's one

4 aspect of this. It's important but not sufficient.

5 Is the current level of physician education

6 satisfactory? And Peter, you elicited the answer

7 to that question, at least to this panel, that

8 there is a consensus that given everything that's

9 happening both in pain management and, in

10 particular, in the field of opioids, really there

11 is additional education that we all could benefit

12 from. We all could do that.

13 Is the current level of education focused on

14 prescribers the right one? Here the consensus was

15 no. Yes, prescriber focus is important, but there

16 needs to be a focus on additional elements of the

17 healthcare system, the nurse practitioners; other

18 non-prescriber groups play a critical role in

19 supporting this. Someone mentioned the courts. We

20 didn't get a chance to mention that, but I heard

21 that. That was an interesting editorial I won't

22 explore further.

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1 Are there improvements in the

2 federal -- I'll say federal, I'm guessing all

3 educational activities -- that could occur to

4 improve their impact? So could we be doing better

5 with education?

6 Here again, it seemed pretty

7 straightforward. Everyone agreed. Dr. Kahn

8 mentioned the idea of modules. I mean, there was

9 some various ideas that people had for taking the

10 kinds of education that we put in place, now

11 speaking about the REMS specifically, the content

12 we put in place in 2012, updating it for our

13 current state where we know more about how to

14 educate prescribers or educate practitioners. We

15 know more about how to do that better to be more

16 likely to be successful.

17 Then I would say the place I've heard

18 consensus, is there a need for additional federal

19 action? So given that we have all of this new

20 activity going on from where we were in 2012, is

21 there a need for additional federal action? And

22 that can be either mandatory or not obviously.

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1 Two advantages people suggested, one was to

2 make a common educational content that the states

3 could then draw on. I think there was broad -- it

4 sounded as though a lot of people thought that was

5 useful.

6 Another suggestion that was made was that it

7 would provide a common standard of data collection,

8 data sharing. It would make it possible for us to

9 understand better what was going on, if there was a

10 federal architecture, if you will.

11 Before answering that question, though, I

12 think everybody acknowledged there's a lot of other

13 things going on, other non-education things, or

14 education things other than the REMS going on. We

15 have the CDC treatment guidelines. CMS and states

16 are using reimbursement strategies that some of you

17 mentioned to modify prescriber behavior.

18 Healthcare systems are working to modify

19 prescriber behavior. I know this because I know

20 people that are having their practice modified by

21 those behaviors, the chits and the flags, and that

22 kind of thing.

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1 The comment was made that those things are

2 directed to large practices and are not likely to

3 be impacting the solo practitioner that I trained

4 in the sandhills of Nebraska with, was not going to

5 be affected by that kind of stuff, because he was

6 out there on his own, and he was not going to be

7 getting that information.

8 Then there was this long discussion, I would

9 say really fruitful discussion, on how to

10 understand state-to-state variability. Lisa, I

11 take your point that not choosing to make mandatory

12 prescriber education is only one aspect of what the

13 states are doing, but we have to recognize there is

14 a broad range of state choices that have been made.

15 And before we decide whether or not the next level

16 up, federal requirement is necessary, it's

17 important to understand the source of that

18 variability.

19 Is it because states are fundamentally that

20 different, or is there something else going on

21 there? And Dr. Katzman talked about huge cultural

22 differences, and having come from the Midwest, I

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1 understand that. I think there are those things.

2 That's true. I don't know whether that fully

3 explains the broad range of choices the states have

4 made or not. I think that's something I hope we

5 have a chance to talk about a little bit.

6 People have talked about how a common

7 curriculum with flexibility, a model act, or a

8 waiver or something, might be a compromise in that

9 sense; if you decided some federal activity was

10 necessary, how to reflect those cultural

11 differences.

12 Then the last question, and I am absolutely

13 not answering, what I think I've heard so far today

14 about the need for additional mandatory federal

15 action. I would say I haven't heard a consensus or

16 even -- people have stated their views.

17 I hope tomorrow we're able to talk about it

18 more systematically, a little bit more in the

19 framework that we've been talking about it late

20 this afternoon, really talking about how to make a

21 choice about additional federal activity, given all

22 of the state and local and healthcare system

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1 activities that have been going on because I think

2 that's how our decision-making is going to

3 ultimately have to be framed.

4 In the context of the things going on now,

5 do we need to do more? And if so, whether that

6 more needs to be mandatory or if it needs to be an

7 improved version of what we're doing now, with

8 understanding better that we have now.

9 I'll end by just -- I'm sorry, I don't know

10 who spoke at the very end there. There are two

11 challenges that have been raised that we really do

12 have to keep in mind. The first is the physician

13 burnout, and we have to acknowledge that that

14 burden is important. Not having a prescriber is

15 infinitely worse than most other options we can be

16 thinking about here.

17 So that just absolutely does need to be

18 thought about, the healthcare system burnout.

19 Actually, I shouldn't have said physician, because

20 I have very good friends that are nurse

21 practitioners. I know very much the burden they

22 bear in these sorts of discussions for instance.

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1 The other thing we just have to remember is

2 those 91 people. We are losing people daily to

3 this. So yes, we all acknowledge there's a lot of

4 things we don't know. At the end of the day,

5 though, everything about this epidemic is going in

6 the wrong direction. And we've seen some small

7 improvements. The VA system data were very

8 compelling and things, but we need to make a

9 difference.

10 So yes, additional research is important,

11 and yes those things are important. But at the end

12 of the day, perfect being the enemy of the good,

13 sometimes we're going to be obliged to act without

14 all of the data we might ideally like to have.

15 So with that, I'm going to close the

16 session. Thanks to everyone that participated.

17 Thanks to the two panels this afternoon for really

18 terrific discussion. And I hope to see all of you

19 tomorrow.

20 (Applause.)

21 (Whereupon, at 5:03 p.m., the meeting was

22 adjourned.)

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185:19;188:4;192:12; adjust (1) 195:7;196:14 agendas (1) aligns (1) 195:13;196:20;197:15, 325:17 Affairs (5) 325:10 356:13 22;200:7;201:17;208:5; admin (1) 110:6,12;111:6; aggregate (1) allocation (1) 214:7,14,16;215:9; 346:2 213:20;228:20 113:16 291:21 216:15;218:15;219:14; administer (1) affect (1) aggressive (2) allow (8) 220:13,20;226:13; 47:4 34:12 76:22;77:1 19:9;134:15;160:14; 228:22;229:3;230:2; administering (3) affected (2) ago (10) 191:12;221:22;259:9; 237:17;273:5;286:12; 153:18;175:14;223:13 203:12;374:5 8:21;32:5;41:21; 287:19;304:13 301:16;302:13;303:6; ADMINISTRATION (4) affecting (1) 75:20;88:20;211:10; allowed (2) 305:4,12;315:15;318:1; 1:1;34:18;77:21;168:5 253:11 214:11;254:4;337:20; 100:5;283:13 347:4;362:22;365:15 administrative (4) affects (1) 361:14 allowing (1) addictions (1) 141:16;205:22; 175:8 agony (1) 296:4 73:18 235:15;259:8 affirmatively (1) 202:21 allows (3) adding (1) Admittedly (1) 323:19 agree (34) 170:10;260:3;357:15 206:2 278:21 affordable (1) 81:16;91:7;102:13,14; alluded (3) addition (14) admitting (1) 233:19 154:17;160:2;189:21; 164:7;315:2;344:22 6:4;34:16;55:13; 222:12 affordably (1) 236:6;240:12;241:3; almost (8) 76:11;85:19;104:16; Adobe (1) 193:2 251:4;257:7;258:1,3; 6:6;45:13;74:8;216:7; 126:1;158:4;200:4; 73:19 afraid (4) 266:12;267:16,20; 230:10;332:18;346:1; 209:2;215:8;304:21; adolescent (4) 11:10,11;12:2,4 269:10;291:6;298:1; 366:22 340:2;365:12 16:14;71:6;285:9; African (1) 319:15;320:18;332:9, alone (10) additional (17) 365:11 316:3 14;337:19;338:19,21; 9:2;30:2;67:8;109:2; 7:15;19:12;20:12; adolescents (3) afternoon (15) 339:1;342:14;344:16; 187:22;192:7;231:22; 31:11;37:10;40:15; 252:22;282:8,10 41:2;150:2;200:20; 345:10;346:6;349:1; 248:12,18;296:12 214:18;246:4;358:19; adopt (5) 204:6;206:19;217:10; 369:6 along (9) 368:4;371:11,16;372:18, 49:4;58:15;317:6; 223:3;228:17;229:14, Agreed (4) 57:15;58:8;69:17; 21;375:14,21;377:10 320:4,10 19;230:3;299:4;370:4; 93:8;366:17,18;372:7 105:6;106:11;185:8; Additionally (1) adopter (1) 375:20;377:17 agreeing (1) 204:19;291:12;318:17 209:10 111:7 again (65) 258:9 alongside (2) add-ons (2) adult (12) 5:11;8:1;23:10;26:12, agreement (17) 193:5;194:11 90:1;351:1 123:9,12,16;127:17; 12;27:8;36:13;48:18; 90:2;130:11,12; alternative (16) address (30) 128:1,17,20;130:17; 53:3;55:1;66:8,13,14,20; 153:21;160:4,16; 9:9;42:3;138:10; 5:17;21:6;31:4;44:1; 131:13,15;253:2;360:20 97:15;101:11,16;103:3, 161:11;162:10;191:2; 188:8,17,18;200:11; 46:21;56:3,22;57:20; advance (1) 14,20;106:4,12;107:1,4; 232:18;242:21;255:13; 223:10;224:3,5,11,20; 81:22;105:10;142:18; 79:5 108:16;109:10;112:9; 261:15;279:5;323:11; 225:8,10;246:17;330:10 151:19;187:21;205:2; advanced (2) 125:13;128:2,10; 366:5,12 alternatives (6) 206:6;207:20;208:3; 186:4;240:1 129:16;134:12;136:5; agreements (5) 61:15;62:1;141:15; 210:1,13;218:8;219:18; advances (1) 150:2;151:17;152:3; 97:22;99:13;126:7; 142:22;143:1;295:6 232:22,22;236:2;323:8; 216:15 157:20;158:18;159:21; 182:21;236:12 although (9) 338:1;343:13;353:10; advancing (3) 171:9;172:1;173:18; agrees (3) 15:20;119:17;124:7; 359:12;362:15 24:14,21;25:13 177:14;183:1;191:8; 9:1;246:22;253:15 133:2;135:4,6;164:9; addressed (4) advantage (1) 242:9;252:7,17;253:9; ahead (6) 185:13;218:7 79:4;111:3;208:6; 277:14 257:2;262:7;266:4; 5:4;215:7;232:16; always (13) 305:21 advantages (1) 272:14;282:11;285:4; 287:9;303:2;326:5 45:1;102:8;118:4; addressing (11) 373:1 290:3;302:1;311:18; aimed (3) 171:16;192:14;216:7; 5:15;26:2;53:13; adverse (5) 326:2;332:2;337:4; 28:21;216:7;271:3 241:5;251:8;281:7,11; 92:11;94:13,17;95:8; 36:22;41:19;181:1; 340:17;355:5;370:5; Alabama (1) 289:6;310:12;369:7 197:7;212:16;281:17; 183:6;341:8 372:6 286:6 AMA (13) 285:11 adversely (1) against (9) alarming (2) 199:9;204:19;209:3; adds (1) 34:12 45:13;97:21;115:20; 196:7,11 229:21;242:22;252:14; 277:12 advertise (1) 166:10;215:21;238:6; Albuquerque (1) 285:18;286:10,20; adequate (7) 287:15 290:1;353:2;361:17 70:11 295:1;308:1;318:1; 170:3;196:15;207:21; advised (1) age-adjusted (1) alcohol (1) 352:15 247:11;335:8,19,20 17:18 54:19 65:22 amateur (1) adequately (4) advisor (1) agencies (6) alcoholism (1) 214:13 13:3;20:5;240:20; 143:15 6:6;188:13;209:1; 338:4 amazed (1) 245:11 advisory (7) 253:19;261:17;265:12 align (5) 295:16 adjourn (1) 32:4;33:5;42:1;110:4, agency (12) 211:16;342:11;345:6; amazing (2) 202:5 14;282:13;347:7 6:11;27:7,16,22;72:9; 354:9;355:17 129:8;134:3 adjourned (1) advocacy (6) 257:4;264:7,12;266:2; aligned (1) Amendments (2) 377:22 6:1;44:18;189:21; 270:18;326:10,11 325:15 34:18;151:21 adjudication (4) 199:19;229:2;285:21 AGENDA (3) alignment (1) America (3) 160:21;161:2,6;162:2 advocate (2) 3:2;4:2;271:16 325:13 81:21;139:20;186:1

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American (32) 286:12 application (2) 207:12 142:11 63:20;65:15,18;82:15; Anesthetic (1) 157:3;159:5 April (3) article (1) 110:21;111:1;137:9; 41:22 applications (5) 47:11;68:13;116:15 14:20 141:5;143:15;181:13; animal (1) 36:20;150:7;152:7,8, APS (3) articulated (2) 186:5;195:13;204:8; 256:2 11 288:2,3,5 26:11;27:6 206:21;217:11;223:5; Anne (6) applied (4) APTA (4) ASA (7) 228:4,20;229:2,11,20; 228:18;229:9;241:19; 33:15;195:19;248:4; 223:6;224:17;225:16, 217:18;218:5,9,18; 231:9,21;237:17;254:5, 246:3;247:8;285:8 308:11 19 219:8,19;220:5 12;276:18;277:2; announced (2) applies (1) arbitrarily (1) ASAM (1) 279:21;280:19;316:4; 27:4;31:9 351:8 202:18 286:13 366:20 annual (9) apply (6) arbitrary (1) asbestos (1) Americans (1) 38:2;39:14;51:11; 134:19;218:6;247:19, 118:8 256:3 316:3 54:1;162:17,22;252:4; 20;248:6;267:9 architecture (1) Ashley (3) among (13) 280:2;287:16 applying (1) 373:10 4:9;217:9,10 45:6,21;90:6;103:9; annually (1) 178:13 archived (1) aspect (9) 138:22;212:10;269:16; 207:15 appreciate (8) 7:19 26:2;29:2;30:16; 315:3,5,10;325:9;331:6, answered (2) 8:3;83:14;94:11; arduous (2) 102:19;104:16;137:22; 8 266:14;336:13 147:16;207:2;223:6; 241:15;278:21 138:16;371:4;374:12 amongst (1) antibiotic (1) 362:21,21 area (23) aspects (4) 357:22 68:19 appreciated (2) 6:7,12,16;26:7;47:14; 25:1;30:7;237:9;259:6 amount (13) anticipate (1) 275:17;359:20 49:13;50:12,15;84:2; aspire (1) 19:7;87:20;105:19; 203:1 appreciates (1) 143:13;210:7;233:9,15; 243:6 173:1,5;219:10;250:14; antidote (1) 220:5 244:13;285:19;302:12; assess (6) 279:5;313:4;361:18,19; 10:10 appreciating (1) 303:6;307:14;309:13; 56:21;57:5;79:20; 370:17,22 antidotes (2) 88:1 322:6;337:3;348:13; 80:1;120:1;363:11 analgesic (12) 71:13;187:19 appreciative (1) 370:6 assessing (2) 32:1;36:12;42:1; anxious (1) 300:18 areas (12) 9:20;79:9 43:22;151:2,11;154:5; 368:2 approach (19) 24:12,20;46:21;48:8; assessment (15) 161:16;162:13;163:5; anymore (1) 65:5;91:8;96:6;98:21; 56:14;112:14;133:14; 35:10;37:22;38:1,22; 196:22;199:22 138:8 101:13;108:1;109:8; 185:11;187:18;207:12; 152:9;155:20;156:1; Analgesics (27) AOA (7) 182:20;194:2;205:14; 331:15;347:11 160:1,7;161:20;162:18; 1:5;28:22;33:1,19; 204:12;252:14; 216:10;236:8;237:3; arena (1) 163:1;212:22;214:16; 38:16;42:7,14;43:2,12; 278:14;279:2,3,11;308:1 249:3;255:4;275:22; 109:17 216:15 44:5;70:18,21;71:3,5; AOA's (1) 338:22;339:2;346:7 argue (5) assessments (4) 150:21;163:11,14,19; 204:9 approaches (3) 142:10;243:14; 39:13;41:13;99:14; 164:5;185:5;211:1; apart (2) 188:11;206:16;216:16 294:20;303:11;339:11 150:13 212:9,14;213:5;231:4; 273:5;294:21 approaching (1) argument (2) assets (1) 235:20;273:17 APHA (2) 17:2 339:17;351:7 221:17 analog (1) 236:14;275:20 appropriate (21) Arizona (1) assist (4) 85:9 apologies (1) 21:9;23:2;95:14; 74:17 169:12;179:4;200:8; Analysis (2) 94:1 118:14;120:10;122:6; Army (7) 279:14 184:10;300:4 apologize (2) 133:2,10;135:22;136:6; 75:12,13;99:5;101:7; assistance (3) analyst (3) 288:21;317:1 138:15;157:16;191:1; 248:10;365:3,4 108:13;129:18;199:1 52:21;53:3;201:2 appeal (1) 197:4,10;206:11; Arnold (5) assistant (4) ancillary (1) 88:6 207:21;213:2;224:18; 3:16;168:3,7,8,10 137:7;257:15;279:10; 235:2 appealing (1) 302:5;305:8 around (33) 346:2 and/or (3) 278:5 appropriately (4) 19:13;22:3;25:21; assistants (3) 35:20;197:14;205:18 appear (2) 205:20;208:18;290:4, 28:17;39:7;44:15;47:15; 180:10;229:17;234:22 ANDERSON (2) 119:15;161:18 5 51:7;64:7;69:20;83:18, assisted (4) 137:6,6 appears (1) approval (2) 21;86:6,22;88:18; 99:5;100:4;274:13; Andrew (1) 14:15 35:1;161:8 100:15;109:8;121:12; 295:5 204:2 applaud (1) approvals (1) 166:16;168:15;176:18; associate (5) anecdotal (2) 215:6 28:3 179:10;193:16;211:12; 25:18;63:1;93:20; 350:1,2 Applause (13) approve (1) 219:22;253:22;260:9; 229:7;300:7 anecdotes (1) 20:22;31:15;44:11; 33:9 297:5,17;351:21; associated (4) 147:5 52:17;62:18;76:14; approved (10) 361:11;364:4;367:3 37:1;72:10;212:17; Anesthesia (1) 109:22;120:16;137:1; 34:17,21,22;36:12; around-the-clock (1) 363:22 228:2 165:22;179:13;298:21; 37:12,18;39:2,9;157:3; 159:9 Association (29) anesthesiologist (2) 377:20 159:4 arrest (2) 52:20,22;53:4,19; 227:22;228:14 applicable (1) approving (2) 174:7,8 67:13;70:12;72:12; Anesthesiologists (2) 201:15 9:9,18 arrived (1) 78:22;82:16;86:14; 217:12,17 applicant (1) approximately (4) 25:4 141:5;147:15;186:6; anesthesiology (1) 42:22 36:19;68:5;173:2; arsenal (1) 204:8;205:1;223:5;

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228:20;229:12,21; 20;298:1;353:18; 139:21;156:13;185:20; bars (1) beginning (6) 231:11;275:19;276:18; 363:20;369:19 187:3;207:17;254:17; 40:4 26:17;108:1;109:14; 277:2;279:13;280:19; audiences (3) 276:13;342:13 base (2) 182:12;219:15;295:4 300:13;323:3;352:16; 189:19;360:3;367:16 awareness (7) 247:21;248:3 beginnings (1) 353:11 audit (2) 12:17;18:20;25:6; based (18) 320:12 Associations (2) 39:1;348:15 192:3;223:9,15;225:16 38:9;39:4;52:8;56:22; begins (1) 4:12;276:10 audited (2) away (9) 96:22;106:21;124:13; 264:5 assume (1) 314:20,22 17:2;18:19;73:13; 205:6;209:19;212:21; begun (2) 143:5 audits (1) 210:9;259:9;290:6; 213:14;222:18;303:17; 218:16;282:16 assure (2) 39:15 331:8;332:10;335:5 307:21;310:6;354:2,13; behalf (8) 23:2;195:18 augment (1) awful (1) 355:9 195:12;204:9;207:1; assuring (2) 142:7 178:2 baseline (2) 217:11,12;223:4;241:2; 21:6;127:13 August (3) 291:13;308:2 254:12 ate (1) 68:14;115:3;117:11 B basic (12) behaving (1) 128:22 Auth (10) 88:2;89:11,12,22; 174:2 Atlanta (1) 3:14;35:16;93:18; back (39) 90:2,20;232:9;244:19; behavior (22) 229:22 149:16,20,21;150:3; 8:14;10:20;11:5,5; 279:7;321:7;333:14; 13:10;18:10;20:13,15; atmosphere (1) 272:8,13;293:19 18:9;30:18;80:16;81:5; 363:10 39:21;100:21;106:15; 101:8 authorities (5) 93:11;97:21;99:7; basically (9) 170:21;172:2,14,17; attack (3) 34:2;42:19;150:17; 110:21;114:9;116:6; 14:12;18:10;104:18; 173:22;181:19;322:4; 174:15,19;221:13 151:5;172:21 124:3;136:22;155:11; 170:13;173:9,10; 326:12;327:11;357:14; attacked (5) authority (15) 159:5;163:16;176:22; 178:12;252:3;310:18 358:3;360:22;361:2; 143:17;144:3,7,19; 34:20;35:4;61:12,19; 177:20;179:17;242:14, basics (1) 373:17,19 289:18 69:5;151:20;167:5; 15;251:8;275:9;290:8; 43:19 behavioral (6) attacking (1) 169:6;178:16;179:1; 294:10;299:3;313:9; basis (20) 17:12;109:5;297:8; 143:20 264:7;309:3;331:12,13; 316:13;318:6,8;345:17; 38:2;39:14;47:13; 298:8;302:7;338:8 attempt (3) 349:20 349:12;353:7;355:8; 48:11;52:6;65:10;68:4; behaviors (5) 115:12;203:9;279:7 authorization (10) 358:22;359:7 71:22;104:19;125:17; 23:4;101:5;107:20; attempting (1) 141:17;143:8;155:5; background (6) 127:3;158:21;173:13, 293:2;373:21 157:6 158:5,11;160:20,22; 32:6;53:11;63:16; 15;176:11;238:8,16; behind (2) attempts (3) 161:22;326:19,21 151:16;270:14;362:10 274:22;325:20;326:7 82:3;140:5 216:5;220:22;237:21 authorizations (1) backs (1) battle (1) belie (1) attend (2) 163:3 197:18 173:15 238:4 82:8;278:20 authorize (1) backwards (1) bear (2) belief (1) attendance (1) 261:17 258:14 191:19;376:22 14:7 281:11 authorizing (1) bad (11) bearing (1) believes (1) attended (1) 58:12 24:5;46:12;66:19; 289:3 218:19 181:10 automatically (6) 171:7;173:8;176:5,8; became (5) belly (1) attending (3) 134:5,9,12,13;359:3,4 232:12;336:7;353:15; 39:8;40:2;98:5; 360:11 104:15;283:20;314:2 availability (10) 358:1 142:21;215:4 belong (2) attention (8) 13:21;24:15;57:9; Baker (1) Becker (17) 276:21,22 8:4;96:9,11;106:14; 95:1;106:17;109:10; 59:9 52:20;53:1,2,3;77:7; benchmarking (1) 182:6;190:6,13;201:8 142:17;143:3;296:5; balance (2) 86:13;91:22;300:12,12; 113:17 attentive (1) 336:4 20:9;120:5 319:14;324:11,14; beneficial (1) 138:12 available (32) balanced (1) 326:3;335:18;344:16; 314:12 attest (1) 7:22;10:8;21:8;26:14; 103:21 356:10;369:6 benefit (6) 160:3 36:9;37:21;39:8;40:3; balancing (1) become (10) 186:9;216:13;275:3; attesting (1) 43:16;50:1;51:8;95:15, 19:4 15:14;157:12;158:2; 284:10;322:1;371:11 326:21 19;102:5;109:12; band-aid (1) 160:1;191:15;208:5; benefiting (1) attitude (2) 113:13;117:5;122:14; 274:8 214:13;238:14;250:21; 212:9 11:12;71:20 125:10;142:4;154:2; bang (1) 329:1 benefit-risk (1) attitudes (5) 168:20;206:1;208:2; 249:17 becomes (6) 212:22 11:17;12:7;70:6;72:5; 211:17;233:7;277:5; bankrupt (1) 19:14;245:18;323:13; benefits (13) 181:16 287:15;328:9;329:5,7; 203:9 345:19;346:1;359:5 17:4;18:3;19:1;33:2; Attorney's (1) 336:2 bar (3) becoming (3) 35:2;98:22;99:15; 65:9 Avenue (2) 339:14;341:12;360:11 36:5;50:4;92:18 100:20;103:20;110:5, attractive (1) 1:17;221:12 bargain (1) began (5) 14;211:18;340:16 327:15 avenues (1) 245:12 55:21;94:16;96:6; benzo (1) attribute (1) 281:18 barrier (1) 99:6;108:7 327:1 41:16 avoid (1) 143:9 begin (7) benzodiazepine (5) audience (11) 196:19 barriers (9) 43:5;52:12;108:8; 73:5;113:20;117:1,20; 230:9,12;251:15; aware (11) 141:17;192:8,9;200:9; 109:13;149:22;201:7; 177:3 273:22;290:12;292:2, 17:15;26:8;37:16; 294:11,19,21;295:4,6 240:17 benzodiazepines (2)

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255:21;304:19 152:8 194:17;205:2;220:2; 254:5 335:16;337:19;341:1,10, benzos (1) bioterrorism (1) 242:16;245:5;253:19; BRANSON (2) 13,16;342:10;346:19; 295:18 68:18 255:7,9,10;257:8,21; 148:19;149:6 352:5;356:8;358:22; Berger (6) bit (40) 259:15;261:20;262:19; Brason (29) 359:17;366:17 81:19,19;82:13; 8:14;11:15;12:16; 264:1,2,3,3,4,4,5,8; 3:4;93:22;94:8,9; BTC (2) 139:19,19;141:2 21:12,22;34:13;35:8; 279:13;300:15,21; 137:17;193:18;296:15, 74:7;365:18 Bernie (3) 53:11;60:2;63:9;64:5; 307:10,14,22;313:7,14; 15;298:3,13,15;300:10, buccal (2) 3:7;110:3,8 66:12;112:17;161:18; 314:21;317:12;319:19; 10;310:1;311:13,16; 159:12,13 best (52) 167:2,22;169:9;202:3; 323:1,2,3,10,10,15; 312:6;328:7;329:19; buck (2) 6:13;26:13,19;27:19; 235:5;238:4,14;240:18; 325:9,22;334:3;347:12; 330:7,13,21;331:1; 249:17;342:12 30:3,5,8;33:22;42:20; 249:5,21;285:16;288:12, 348:2,12;357:7;367:7, 335:19;336:15;345:10; budgets (1) 44:9;52:22;53:5;54:7; 18;290:20;293:11; 17,18,22;368:4 349:1,4;359:7 55:14 57:22;68:8;71:4;77:10; 331:4;339:4,4,5,5,6; boards' (1) break (5) build (1) 96:14;107:3,6,8;108:14, 349:10;353:12;359:8; 83:13 7:5;22:11;81:3;93:11; 351:22 17;117:16;122:14; 375:5,18 boat (1) 179:16 building (1) 124:5;140:22;197:20; blame (1) 252:20 Breaking (1) 291:18 213:14;222:15;225:5; 132:17 Bob (1) 66:19 builds (2) 233:4;253:20;256:21; blaming (1) 230:3 breakout (1) 107:2,2 257:4;263:11,14;265:2, 272:18 bodies (1) 366:3 built (1) 13,17;279:1;280:8; block (2) 220:1 breakthrough (1) 134:2 296:3;298:11;303:14; 88:21;257:13 body (2) 159:7 bullet (3) 304:22;310:8,19,20; blood (1) 223:15;244:8 brief (2) 152:13,16;256:14 328:17;346:10;367:1 111:12 bold (1) 14:17;218:4 bunch (2) better (28) Bloom's (2) 27:11 briefly (4) 176:18;273:4 18:12;23:4;70:19; 247:17;248:5 bolded (3) 15:14;147:12;332:13; buprenorphine (7) 91:18;111:5;146:11; bludgeon (1) 25:16;152:13,16 354:17 71:15;100:2,4;262:6, 147:3,4;181:3;205:10; 203:10 bonus (1) brigade (1) 10;274:17;298:9 206:6;209:7;218:19; blue (4) 268:11 100:16 burden (12) 224:12;232:3;237:1; 24:5;40:5,7;295:3 boss (1) bring (13) 118:21;181:21;250:6, 247:5;251:18;267:13; blueprint (26) 301:12 81:8;88:6;96:13; 7,15;334:16;351:9; 280:5;309:20;357:16; 30:9;38:10,13,21; Boston (2) 133:13;136:6;191:8; 354:11;358:20;359:5; 358:9;364:10;372:4,15; 42:5;43:10,16,19;44:4,4, 210:21;211:2 210:11;279:8;302:1; 376:14,21 373:9;376:8 6;93:2,5,7;183:19; both (35) 338:8;345:17;347:7; burdens (2) bettering (1) 194:9;195:6;211:5; 20:9;23:2;36:20;57:1; 349:12 205:22;259:8 310:8 318:11;320:12,13,15; 61:11;76:21;122:13; bringing (2) burdensome (9) Bevin (2) 349:13;354:13;360:14; 123:13,18;125:10; 50:16;103:21 34:11;246:9;250:2; 58:20;59:15 367:20 127:12;128:12;129:4, brings (4) 341:6;349:18;351:7,11; beyond (8) blueprints (1) 11;130:16;131:13; 102:17;136:5;189:11; 358:6,20 138:16;149:15; 185:9 135:17;147:1;153:4; 338:18 bureaucracy (1) 151:19;198:20;202:1; blues (1) 157:20;162:15;182:11; broad (12) 249:19 206:13;279:7;327:12 55:2 198:10;208:9;213:10; 5:20;6:10;22:9,20; burgeoning (1) biannual (1) board (55) 217:22;220:5;235:10, 46:21;237:10;276:15; 234:10 50:22 49:16;51:3;58:13; 22;283:1;287:22; 307:21;312:22;373:3; burnout (6) big (17) 67:20;68:11,11;69:1,3,4, 339:10;344:16;370:3; 374:14;375:3 212:10;357:22; 47:5;71:12;84:2; 6,7;70:5,9;72:7,20; 371:9 broadcasting (2) 358:17;359:11;376:13, 149:1;182:2;219:16; 74:13;89:18;105:9; bottles (1) 107:13,14 18 233:22;235:3;242:4; 106:2;108:2;110:7,17; 10:8 broaden (1) BURNS (10) 247:14;250:2;267:6; 122:16;136:4;141:5; bottom (2) 206:14 228:17,19;236:5,6; 291:12;296:8;313:10; 144:16;218:12;228:8; 27:10;80:21 broadening (1) 259:3,4;269:9,10; 314:7;359:22 229:20;254:5;257:4; bought (1) 42:14 275:18,19 bigger (1) 260:11,13;265:12; 108:4 broader (5) bus (1) 313:6 276:1;300:22,22,22; boutique (1) 21:11,22;30:15;53:10; 272:18 biggest (1) 301:1;302:15,16,22; 267:22 273:16 businesses (1) 275:4 303:5,21;312:10,11; box (4) brochure (1) 172:22 bill (15) 315:12;326:8,9,14; 241:10;289:14; 69:16 busy (3) 47:22;58:21;60:9; 344:6;347:2,5;350:8; 291:15,21 brought (8) 5:5,12;46:18 67:17,19;68:2,13;82:9, 352:19 boy (1) 51:13;97:1;98:3; buy-in (1) 10;285:1;301:12,13; boards (72) 273:2 133:1;145:2;214:7; 96:12 302:15,19;304:14 6:2,2;37:16;44:19; Bragg (3) 329:5;337:20 buys (1) bills (5) 47:8;49:14,21;51:12; 99:5,22;100:6 Brown (23) 172:10 46:17;47:17;48:12,14; 60:13;68:15;69:7;83:19; brain (2) 4:17;249:14,14; 302:20 84:8;88:21;89:2,4,8; 175:9,9 299:18;300:16,17,17; C biologic (1) 90:11;91:14,14;136:5; brand (1) 312:17;326:6;332:13;

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C2 (1) 248:4;250:20;254:19; 304:4;305:15;308:16; 34:5;72:18;92:18; 16;320:2;321:8;326:3,6; 234:2 256:16;257:18;259:20; 309:20;310:20;315:22; 99:2;141:10;206:8; 332:17;342:10;343:2, cabin (1) 261:1,5;266:8,22; 323:13;358:9;365:4 209:17;220:13;221:5,9; 21;344:3,17 337:16 268:21;269:5;276:10; career (1) 238:1 certificate (2) cabinet (2) 277:3,11;278:7,8,9; 214:1 caused (1) 261:12;289:16 16:12;305:11 279:18;282:19;283:7; careful (5) 10:11 certificates (1) California (9) 286:18;288:4;293:1; 212:22;310:12; causing (1) 186:13 120:20;121:11,14; 295:9,20;296:9;297:7,7, 321:11;325:14;357:6 220:20 certification (15) 122:15;123:11;127:8; 9;298:7,8,9;299:5; carefully (3) caution (1) 35:20;152:14,18; 187:8;361:14;362:18 302:4;305:7,9;308:6,13, 17:4;139:12;197:11 205:15 153:16;155:22;186:5, call (10) 14,15;309:6,10;311:10; caregiver (4) cautious (2) 10;254:15,16,18;255:2; 37:18;56:10;182:6; 312:8;314:13,16; 103:6,11;106:10; 334:8,17 354:16,19;355:12; 197:18;275:5,6;288:2; 318:14;319:10;320:21; 107:9 CDC (24) 356:17 316:15;337:15;346:13 323:7,11,11,16;324:3, caregivers (2) 6:7;23:9;25:16;26:10; certified (11) called (6) 11;332:6,7,14,22; 98:20;184:13 54:15;55:8;61:4;66:21; 36:5;46:13;154:18; 61:2;62:10;182:15; 335:10;336:1,7,8,10; caregiver's (1) 202:7,14;205:6;224:7, 157:13;158:2;160:1; 198:5;201:12;357:11 337:10,16;338:16; 107:5 12;272:18;303:7,16; 186:4;228:8;250:20,21; Calling (1) 341:17;343:15;344:4; caring (1) 307:22;325:21;326:7,14, 294:13 271:5 346:20;349:2,3,9;350:1, 119:11 20;327:17;367:5;373:15 certify (2) calls (6) 10;355:22;356:17,19; Carol (4) CDC's (3) 154:13,16 98:16;177:11;242:9; 358:18;359:2;362:6,10, 3:9;120:18,22;121:1 203:16,21;324:16 certifying (1) 246:17;286:1;293:14 15,16,19;366:15;367:7, Carolina (10) CE (17) 254:19 Camden (4) 8,15;368:12;372:22; 96:4;98:8,9;99:8; 38:20;39:8;40:2,13; CEs (1) 229:3;237:20;274:11, 376:15 104:2;108:7;298:5; 61:3;181:10,11,12,15, 261:4 13 cancel (1) 311:18;329:14,20 17,20;276:2,5;277:16; cetera (6) came (7) 342:4 carriers (1) 278:6;282:6;312:18 87:20;114:6;252:15; 15:2;32:8;54:2;74:16; cancer (5) 348:7 cell (2) 279:10;295:19;311:7 77:18;357:3;359:22 11:8,9;159:8,10;214:3 carrot (1) 13:1;239:11 CFR (1) campaign (4) capability (2) 270:9 center (25) 171:18 192:4;203:5;204:22; 260:8,10 carrots (1) 5:8,8;8:6;31:20;37:19; chair (7) 225:20 capacities (1) 324:3 52:22;53:4;54:7;56:20; 110:4,13;141:4;228:6; Campbell (1) 369:11 carry (2) 65:8,8;69:16,18;70:10; 229:1,20,21 111:1 capacity (4) 76:11;344:11 73:12;99:6;104:4; challenge (4) can (212) 56:22;268:14,19; carrying (1) 110:15;150:4;229:8; 193:19;244:18;245:1, 6:14;7:21;10:3,14; 307:16 118:21 233:13;251:22;292:16; 17 14:17;20:6;21:19;22:15, captured (1) cars (1) 300:8;360:16 challenged (2) 18;24:4,12;26:4;27:9; 7:22 177:19 Centers (9) 230:11;266:6 28:1,4,8,8,12;30:18; car (1) case (18) 54:14;121:16;124:1,6, challenges (5) 34:21;35:5,12,19;36:1; 128:22 13:7;16:12;49:21; 9;125:2,4;139:3;196:6 29:7,18;140:3;168:1; 37:9;43:21;45:4,8,19,20; card (1) 50:2;81:13;107:19; central (6) 376:11 47:13,18;50:1,15;52:2; 221:7 115:10;146:21,22; 25:21;29:2;61:3; challenging (3) 54:8;55:1;64:8;66:7,18; cardiac (2) 164:11;201:19;210:4; 73:22;166:5;257:17 22:16;86:7;190:20 69:8;78:2;81:5;82:12; 186:5,8 234:15;276:13;299:14; central-line (1) CHAMBERS (6) 83:20,21;84:1;88:3,17; cardiovascular (1) 316:22;350:5,7 256:3 78:20,20;147:14,14; 89:15;91:1;94:16;97:2, 17:22 case-based (1) centric (1) 148:10,13 7;98:10;101:1,3;102:9; Care (79) 211:5 118:11 chance (6) 103:4,14;105:2;108:15; 1:4;46:1;50:5,6,13,20; cases (8) certain (25) 111:5;179:16;319:13; 115:12;117:8,20; 52:7;71:4;75:2;84:3,5; 135:13;136:3,7; 26:13;46:21;48:8; 363:12;371:20;375:5 119:18;126:3,14,16; 90:16;92:4;98:2,9,22; 143:16;147:1;183:1; 49:9,10;58:17,22;61:10; change (30) 127:12,14;134:7,13; 101:19;102:2;109:7,9; 268:17;326:1 82:11;124:10;140:10; 12:7;20:13,15;23:3, 135:19;136:6;140:10, 119:3,6,8;121:14,21; catches (1) 244:8;250:14;268:12; 17,18;56:6;72:4,10,22; 19;142:6;144:2,8;145:4; 122:6,9,22;129:11,15, 318:20 292:21;293:22;294:1; 96:14;98:3;100:1; 146:18;151:22;152:3; 16;138:15;140:4; categories (1) 304:17;308:21;315:6; 101:19;102:17;133:17, 153:9;155:12;158:13; 145:19,19;146:1,10; 271:4 325:16;329:20;330:9; 18,19;137:19;219:7; 162:1;163:20;178:3; 161:5;197:19,22;199:2, category (4) 345:4;352:3 244:22;284:3;293:1; 182:3;191:17;194:15, 4,17;202:17;206:6; 157:16,17;313:1,3 certainly (34) 340:6;345:18;357:9; 16;201:14;202:5;206:6; 207:9;210:9,13;211:16; Cates-Wessel (3) 45:17;46:7,15,18; 358:3;360:22;361:2; 212:2;214:8;215:16,17, 212:21;215:5,20; 3:22;195:10,11 47:19;49:6;50:21;52:13; 370:19 18;217:4;218:3;221:7, 216:12;228:9;229:5; cats (1) 83:15;85:6;134:20; changed (5) 15;222:15;225:17; 233:12,13;237:3;239:9; 290:20 139:6;183:5;234:17; 11:17;12:8;60:1; 227:4;230:20;235:3; 240:6,10,19;256:2; causation (2) 245:15;247:10;249:6; 100:21;122:17 236:10,11,19;241:1; 259:10;271:9;280:12, 220:14;359:11 280:14;302:6;303:14; changes (12) 243:6;244:20;246:9; 12;290:8;295:16;298:7; cause (11) 308:11;318:12;319:15, 39:20;41:17;46:5;

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59:6;70:5;97:1;98:13; choice (4) clear (11) 161:3;251:20 cognitive (1) 106:14;107:21;175:9; 19:22;336:7,9;375:21 20:9;40:13,21;129:18; closely (4) 17:12 188:3;194:22 choices (2) 132:10;142:21;170:16; 6:17;72:7,8;191:16 cognizant (3) changing (5) 374:14;375:3 199:14;224:12;303:21; closes (2) 184:2;212:4;241:13 18:10;56:15;57:11; choose (5) 306:20 226:15;288:16 cohort (1) 327:11;357:18 164:5;219:1;225:21; clearinghouse (1) Closing (3) 146:6 channels (1) 351:15;354:20 257:17 4:19;369:21;370:1 collaborate (1) 169:22 choosePT (1) clearly (13) clue (1) 280:14 chapter (2) 225:22 17:3;142:15,16; 329:9 collaborated (1) 231:10;284:18 choosing (2) 231:19;234:21;252:12; CME (36) 285:9 chapters (2) 18:1;374:11 258:22;277:2;289:2; 9:16;47:4;48:14; collaborating (1) 82:3;210:10 chose (1) 304:12;305:16;307:14; 50:10,11;60:19;68:20; 367:12 charge (2) 50:1 308:16 69:11;75:6;83:16,16; collaboration (7) 289:9;291:18 chosen (2) client (4) 102:8,11;103:2;208:11, 136:13;189:22;262:4, charged (1) 35:12;159:1 102:21;103:3,10,12 19;218:16,21;268:13; 6;269:16;280:9;281:20 222:21 Christie (1) clients (1) 285:8,19;289:6,20; collaborations (3) charitable (1) 61:8 102:16 291:1;313:3;315:4; 269:14;280:10;292:19 96:1 chronic (58) Clif (3) 321:13;333:6;342:4; collaborative (7) charter (1) 15:21;17:19;19:16,18, 4:6;206:17,19 348:20;350:8;351:12; 204:17;229:18; 117:9 20;71:4;78:22;82:15; climate (1) 356:16;357:15;359:14, 236:12;241:14;261:19, charts (1) 92:14;97:7;98:6;111:16; 353:13 15 22;322:22 130:12 112:9,12;115:18,22; clinic (1) CME-related (1) collaboratively (1) chasing (1) 116:3;118:9;120:8; 183:2 205:17 197:21 283:18 122:22;134:4;142:18; clinical (23) CMEs (9) colleague (4) check (3) 145:17;146:7,12,15,22; 67:19;69:3,4;114:19; 74:11;92:11;97:2; 82:1;244:3;266:17; 134:5;155:3;291:21 147:15,19;148:2; 115:4,16,17;116:5; 102:6,7;242:7,8;329:2; 355:1 checkbox (4) 177:18;198:9;199:7; 120:20;195:16,19;198:6, 359:17 colleagues (9) 243:13;316:6;317:18; 200:14,22;203:22;209:5, 8,12,19;199:1;213:6; CMO (1) 83:18;126:17;134:21; 324:6 9;212:19;213:1;214:13; 214:1;229:16;314:21; 73:21 135:11;136:2;148:17; checked (2) 216:12;219:4;223:11; 317:12;350:12;362:22 CMS (9) 217:3;267:17;294:8 289:15;291:15 224:8,11,13;228:15; clinician (11) 6:7;266:3;268:10,11; collecting (1) checking (2) 233:15;234:12;235:21; 64:4;78:10;220:2; 270:15,16;298:4; 76:19 246:17;359:3 239:4,9;267:8;302:18; 241:11;331:11;350:6,7; 355:18;373:15 collection (1) checks (1) 303:8;340:8;349:21 357:13,14;361:8,11 CO*RE (18) 373:7 246:11 chronically (1) Clinicians (70) 87:6,7;189:8;190:6; collectively (1) Cheek (6) 112:11 16:20;17:13,15;18:12; 204:17;228:11;229:13, 198:4 4:10;143:11,11; circuits (2) 64:7,8;69:8,11,20;70:2, 18;242:9,11;256:17; College (3) 220:10,11;221:9 337:7,7 4,14,16,22;71:9,11,13, 278:15;280:10;281:20; 181:13;203:18;228:7 chemical (1) circumstance (1) 18;72:16,19;73:16,19; 282:5;283:9;315:14; colleges (2) 139:3 49:19 74:8,9,10,12,16;75:1,2, 359:18 205:4;279:4 chemicals (1) circumstances (4) 5;78:4;79:16;87:8;88:6; CO*RE's (1) Collegium (3) 169:21 49:10;304:11,17; 180:12;181:22;182:16; 189:8 213:21;217:3;293:9 Chester (2) 316:15 185:7;186:6;187:14; coaching (5) Columbia (1) 3:7;110:9 cities (4) 188:12;212:2,7,11; 133:15;198:12,19; 48:22 Chi (1) 48:4;49:4;72:15,16 213:2;216:22;225:1,7; 333:8;334:1 combat (1) 142:17 citizens (2) 241:20;242:3;267:9; coalition (1) 209:7 chief (7) 174:14;234:9 284:4;285:14;314:22; 107:2 combination (3) 44:18;126:14;168:3, city (1) 315:6,22;317:13,15; coalitions (3) 76:8;177:4;268:8 11;192:20;269:2;314:1 274:13 319:3;331:12;349:19; 106:21;198:5;338:14 combined (2) chiefs (4) claims (3) 350:4,14;354:7;355:10; coats (1) 65:21;107:20 125:16;127:4;128:3; 160:20;161:6;162:2 356:13;365:1,1,4,4 173:11 comfort (1) 133:8 clarification (1) clinician's (1) cocaine (1) 97:6 child (1) 273:13 212:20 65:22 comfortable (4) 250:18 clarify (6) clinician-to-clinician (1) cockpit (1) 13:6;14:11;92:15; children (2) 121:2;168:10;258:8; 74:21 244:17 132:7 252:22;253:2 259:12,16;356:11 clinics (5) codes (1) comfortably (1) chilling (4) clarity (1) 47:2;60:10;92:14; 187:16 18:13 72:18;78:15;314:18; 132:14 145:16;182:13 codifies (1) coming (9) 315:1 class (2) close (8) 262:11 6:9;11:22;91:15; chiropractor (1) 258:17;366:10 62:16;64:11;150:1; co-direct (1) 245:5;282:10;313:7; 188:9 Claudia (8) 165:14;189:16;198:16; 110:15 328:19;347:22;361:10 chits (1) 31:1,14,16,18;44:12; 274:21;377:15 coerced (1) commensurate (1) 373:21 93:1;152:17;180:14 closed (2) 108:5 311:11

Min-U-Script® A Matter of Record (9) changing - commensurate (301) 890-4188 FDA - Training Health Care Providers on Pain Management and Safe Use of Opioid Analgesics May 9, 2017 comment (31) 175:13;181:14;185:14; 219:9 224:6;323:18 188:16;189:3,18; 79:6;83:12;88:8,12, 193:11;251:21;335:13 compliant (2) conditions (6) 223:21;266:16;299:9; 16;213:19;218:5;220:4; community-based (1) 38:19;211:5 13:1;150:18;155:4; 362:2 235:17;246:5,20; 94:17 complicated (2) 157:9,19;306:17 considerable (2) 248:19;250:1;254:3; community-used (1) 212:11;291:11 conduct (4) 138:5;189:11 289:5,6;294:17,18; 193:1 complying (1) 172:9,10;207:12; consideration (6) 296:14;307:7;309:22; comorbid (1) 158:22 323:17 7:16;92:21;182:10; 310:1;312:17;320:14; 297:16 component (9) conducted (2) 190:8;191:7;259:5 326:6;332:13;357:4,5; compact (1) 37:4;92:3;104:1; 41:13;217:4 Considerations (5) 363:20,21;374:1 56:11 153:10;170:9,10; conference (9) 3:13;93:21;149:19; comments (31) companies (7) 175:19;212:15;269:16 48:1;53:22;281:9,12; 190:5;236:1 7:20;21:4;28:18;29:5; 36:18,18;38:4;293:18, components (5) 323:6,7;329:8;331:19,21 considered (7) 33:14,15;34:8;44:6,7; 21;350:3,12 36:2;82:19;83:5; conferences (5) 34:10;38:18;50:2; 52:11,13;86:11;87:13, company (3) 152:4;317:9 280:12;281:3,7; 148:11,12;224:22; 14;88:15;93:5;166:7; 61:2;110:13;183:16 composed (2) 282:12;331:18 323:16 189:20;193:4;203:14; comparable (1) 121:22;217:16 conferencing (1) considering (1) 223:4;226:10;236:7; 363:6 comprehension (1) 74:5 184:18 251:12;269:10;278:13; compare (3) 158:21 confiscating (1) consistency (4) 295:12;300:1;306:10; 126:16;135:10;322:8 comprehensive (11) 221:17 50:16;129:4;132:14; 320:16;369:21 compared (3) 57:17;77:16;94:11; conflicts (5) 136:19 commercial (1) 115:7;130:12,15 98:21;102:19;109:8; 63:14;95:21;110:12; consistent (2) 278:17 compares (1) 113:3,7;188:3;217:22; 201:6;280:4 128:16;132:10 Commissioner (1) 112:11 338:22 confront (3) consistently (2) 341:3 comparison (2) comprise (1) 22:14;23:3;24:7 238:14;360:8 committed (6) 163:5;166:10 36:17 confused (2) Consortium (1) 5:16;56:13;199:11; compelling (2) compromise (1) 80:8,22 26:8 205:5;208:17;225:16 88:13;377:8 375:8 confusion (1) constantly (3) committee (9) competence (1) conceal (1) 342:7 286:1;287:8;293:22 33:5;42:1;80:5;149:2; 185:2 92:16 Congratulations (1) constipation (1) 180:8;229:2;282:18; competencies (2) concentrating (1) 141:6 16:6 292:4;353:22 59:12;252:4 130:7 Congress (4) constituents (2) committees (2) competency (3) concern (9) 28:2;62:8,11;179:1 241:7,16 42:2,11 185:17;234:20;255:19 139:10;209:6;231:22; congressman (1) constitutional (1) common (12) competent (3) 232:5;245:8;295:14; 145:4 221:18 123:10;190:14,17; 211:3;212:14;323:17 305:20,20;307:13 Conjoint (5) constraints (1) 315:10;317:6;331:9; competition (1) concerned (6) 80:5;149:2;180:8; 48:2 362:6,16;368:17;373:2, 288:3 85:6;178:16;202:4; 292:4;353:21 construct (1) 7;375:6 complaint (1) 206:2;239:18;245:2 Connect (1) 364:16 commonly (2) 20:20 concerns (3) 123:3 consultancy (1) 129:2;192:22 complementary (1) 92:10;237:13;241:8 Connect- (1) 54:9 common-sense (1) 188:9 concerted (1) 73:19 consultation (2) 341:5 complete (16) 9:4 connection (2) 56:19;182:22 Commonwealths (1) 27:18;60:19;61:13,22; conclude (3) 256:2;273:8 consumer (1) 59:10 151:9;154:12,16; 51:10;203:13;306:18 connections (1) 5:22 communicate (2) 158:21;159:22;160:4; concluded (1) 237:1 consumers (1) 28:14,14 161:19;163:21;180:20; 80:12 cons (5) 225:20 communication (12) 205:17;210:4;356:3 concludes (1) 231:2,17,19;233:21; consuming (1) 35:6;114:19;124:18, completed (7) 204:2 240:12 358:5 20;125:8;128:10; 40:6,14;47:11;152:20; conclusion (2) consensus (7) contact (3) 140:14;152:5;153:3,4, 153:20;287:21;349:5 119:21;349:11 370:11,14;371:3,8,14; 171:2;296:9;332:6 10;213:7 completely (2) conclusions (3) 372:18;375:15 contain (1) communications (1) 289:4;369:6 80:10,22;81:10 consent (3) 220:22 276:11 completer (1) concomitant (5) 117:3;158:17;203:10 content (16) communities (10) 271:5 117:1,20;125:20; consequence (3) 39:16;97:18;191:20; 77:4;95:6,19;104:22; completers (2) 304:18;327:1 13:12;201:13;341:9 264:14;287:16;331:15; 105:13;106:3;107:14; 40:8;271:19 concrete (1) consequences (10) 332:10,14;335:11; 207:9;338:2,13 completing (1) 193:15 13:11;15:17;18:8; 336:10;362:15;364:22; Community (26) 208:19 concurrent (2) 25:7;45:16;118:5; 365:11,12;372:11;373:2 63:2;94:15;95:20; completion (2) 113:19;212:16 137:13;212:5;233:22; contents (1) 96:7,19,22;97:4;98:6,9; 253:21;257:5 condition (11) 346:5 320:19 101:5;102:18;104:17; complex (2) 15:4;62:14;97:19; consider (13) content-specific (2) 106:11,21;107:13,21,22; 215:8;237:10 153:17,19;157:22; 17:4;19:11;57:20; 50:8,9 108:12;109:20;137:17; complexities (1) 161:11;194:12;208:15; 106:20;151:13;164:2; context (4)

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154:11,17 donations (1) 20;92:6,8;93:1,3,8,15; 374:21 dual (2) District (1) 102:9 94:7,9;110:1,3,10; draft (5) 170:6;297:15 48:22 done (50) 120:17,18;121:2,6; 43:16,18;93:2;194:8; due (6) dive (2) 7:19;9:2;18:4,6;74:7; 137:3;138:17;139:9,18, 195:6 48:2;49:3;64:16; 63:10;260:7 86:17;95:6;96:13;97:3, 19,21;140:7;141:2,3,8, dragged (1) 117:12;201:11;202:22 diverse (1) 9;99:4;104:3;107:12,18; 13,13,20,21;142:1,19; 177:19 Duke (2) 311:7 108:15,17,19;124:17; 143:10;144:21;145:1; dramatic (2) 85:1;356:22 diversion (11) 125:3,9;127:14;128:9; 146:5;147:11;148:7,12, 116:20;130:1 duplicate (2) 61:17;62:3;95:10; 136:7;140:11,13,20,21; 14,19,21,22,22,22;149:6, draw (4) 164:19;165:2 101:11;168:4,12; 143:22;148:19;158:7; 7,9,12,14,16,21;151:16; 81:10;201:8;324:14; duplicating (1) 169:19;171:5;205:3; 162:1;199:14;202:12; 154:3;166:1;168:3; 373:3 249:7 260:3;310:10 244:13;246:14;249:8; 179:14;180:3,5,7; drill (1) duplicative (1) diversity (3) 252:4,6;255:13;258:16; 183:12;188:20,20,22; 22:2 249:1 65:14;255:11;349:16 269:7;272:16;291:19; 189:4;192:17;195:9; drive (5) duplicativeness (1) divided (1) 299:6;307:6,8;342:3; 200:18;204:4;206:17, 27:7;260:16;276:7; 342:7 54:4 360:4;365:16;368:4 18;210:18;213:16,17,18; 322:12;323:14 DUR (1) division (8) door (3) 214:11;217:8;220:9; driven (4) 339:6 52:21;53:5;54:12,13; 101:4;143:19;144:4 223:1;226:14;227:10,11, 49:16;55:6;310:15; duration (4) 150:3,6;168:4,12 Doris (10) 17,21;228:5,12,21; 319:15 19:6;60:5;116:2; doable (1) 3:14;35:16;93:18; 229:19;230:3;231:5,8, driver's (1) 184:18 275:15 149:16,19,20;150:3; 19;232:14,14,15,16,17, 186:2 During (3) doc (1) 272:7;284:2;344:22 18;233:21;235:4,5,7; drives (1) 184:5;225:13;357:3 257:13 dose (4) 236:4,5;237:14,15; 137:21 dysphoria (1) docket (11) 113:22;118:8;146:15; 239:20,21;240:21; driving (3) 16:6 7:11,12,13;33:6; 201:17 242:19,20;244:7;246:19, 56:9;57:5;338:2 43:14;44:8;93:7,7; dosed (1) 20;247:15,16;248:19,20, drop (4) E 288:16,17;320:16 184:22 21;249:22;250:10; 73:2,3,5;105:11 doctor (10) doses (6) 251:4,7,8;252:9,10; dropped (3) earlier (23) 168:9;173:19;174:2; 16:4;76:3,6;119:20; 254:4;256:13,14;257:1, 65:2;66:11;100:11 49:2;54:21;84:14; 176:19,22;177:12; 146:20;184:22 7;258:2,3,4,7,11,13,20; dropping (1) 152:17;154:3;155:14; 178:14;237:19;241:1; dosing (2) 259:1,2,3,17,18;261:14; 147:8 156:17;164:7,15; 310:13 19:7;184:18 262:15,16;263:21; drops (1) 165:18;180:14;189:8; doctors (23) double (1) 265:20;266:11,12,19; 340:13 193:18;236:9;248:9,22; 143:17;144:6,19; 165:10 267:4,15;268:5,6,7; DRUG (77) 280:17;311:14;313:11; 171:2;172:9;176:6,13, doubt (5) 269:8,9,19,20;270:7,8, 1:1;8:7;12:22;14:1; 319:21;328:18;345:1; 16,20;203:4;221:13; 139:16;175:2,18,21; 19,20;271:21;272:8,11, 17:15;19:1;28:11;31:20; 355:14 222:6,8,9,11,15,20; 215:2 13,14,21;273:10,19; 34:17,19,22;35:21; early (10) 273:6;289:18;290:1,1,3; Doug (10) 274:6,7;275:18;276:17, 39:19;41:22;42:1;47:16, 11:7;19:17;32:9;58:1; 368:19 5:7;8:11;11:14;78:16; 18;278:3,6,13,14; 21;48:19;49:1,8,22; 100:12;104:10;110:20; doctor's (1) 81:7;110:14;136:22; 279:20,21;280:16; 51:14,19;56:1;59:13; 111:7;136:15;219:12 173:21 149:21;355:14;369:21 285:18;287:12,13,22; 60:11;66:22;68:18;71:9; ease (1) doctorsofcourageorg (1) Douglas (4) 288:8,10;289:5;291:4; 72:8;85:11,12;99:12; 67:4 143:14 4:20;21:1;214:11; 292:4,13;293:7,9; 110:7,17;113:19;117:3; easier (2) document (11) 370:1 294:17,18;295:11; 120:12;126:5;130:14; 251:20;362:4 37:8;47:10,13;51:8; down (28) 297:22;298:11,14; 134:6;139:13;147:22; easily (3) 135:19;157:19;158:12, 5:4;7:5;19:11;22:2; 300:6;305:5;306:8; 150:4,7,19;152:7,10; 109:14;144:2;296:9 22;202:10;308:1,7 67:13,14;80:13,14;94:4; 309:21;311:1,15;312:4; 153:14,18;154:9,10,18; easy (12) documentation (1) 100:13,17;111:22; 314:13,16;316:13;317:1, 155:1;156:3;167:6; 18:6;101:5;146:16; 153:17 112:5;139:7,15;177:19; 1,3,4;318:6,18;319:12; 168:4,13;171:2;173:10; 250:16;273:2;298:4; documented (3) 180:4;202:12,19; 320:6;324:10,13; 182:22;184:17;207:19; 315:11;345:18;346:4; 114:13;116:17;304:12 232:15;239:18;254:1; 327:19;329:13;330:5,8, 208:4;216:17;220:22; 357:15;361:1;368:10 DoD (1) 263:15;265:19;266:1; 19,22;331:2,3,4;333:1; 221:5,9;229:7,8;263:5; easy-to-access (1) 161:4 327:8;352:10;361:10 334:18;336:3,18,19; 294:1,2,7;301:4;304:19; 296:10 dog (1) DR (324) 338:18;339:22;340:16; 320:8 easy-to-understand (1) 128:22 5:3;7:2;8:6,11;21:2,2, 341:7,11,14,20;343:1; Drugs (20) 187:11 dogma (3) 18;30:2;31:17;32:7,7; 344:15;346:6,7,17; 5:8;13:7;14:3;24:16; Ebola (1) 12:10;13:5;14:13 38:14;40:22;44:12; 347:19;349:8,9;350:17, 65:22;85:15;86:4; 268:16 dollars (1) 52:18;54:20;62:19;63:5; 22;351:7,16;353:17,20; 114:22;138:20,22; ECHO (20) 249:7 73:10;74:6;76:16;78:2, 356:7,12,21,22;358:12; 142:12;152:2;169:22; 64:6,10;73:15;74:19, domains (2) 17;79:13;80:3,4,6;81:2, 359:13;363:12,16,19; 176:3;185:21;220:13, 20;75:4,7,8,13,15,15; 38:17;185:9 7,16,19;82:9,13,14; 364:20,21;365:20,22; 20;253:5;289:21;332:19 300:9;317:14;332:2; don’t (2) 83:11;84:19,22;85:21; 366:1,2,5,7,12,15,19; drug-specific (1) 340:4,11,12;350:2,5,7 242:12;342:19 86:3,6;87:1;90:9;91:3, 369:17;370:2;372:7; 30:11 economically (4)

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297:7,12;298:6,10 14;209:22;210:2,5,12; 122:6;166:21;200:10; 156:17 encounter (1) economics (1) 211:3,20;212:1,6,15,20; 202:20;208:8;224:5,16, elements (20) 213:6 57:11 213:1,10,13,14,20; 21;248:5;333:11; 35:7,11,19,22;38:21; encourage (11) ED (4) 215:10,12,13;216:6; 338:13;339:13;343:16; 96:17;151:6,7;152:5,12, 52:9;89:21;206:12; 95:9;98:16;104:6; 217:15;218:9,12;219:19, 360:21 22;153:1,2,6;155:15; 219:21;223:21;232:6; 105:12 22;220:7;221:12;222:2; effectively (9) 216:1;246:8;352:3; 240:7;295:19;299:13; edified (1) 224:1;226:3,6;229:11, 21:20;22:19;23:7; 363:17;371:16 308:5;344:13 278:19 16;230:15,19;232:2,2; 29:3;57:7;75:3;208:18; elevated (1) encouraged (2) editorial (1) 233:1,9;234:16,18; 237:8;306:4 286:13 193:22;218:18 371:21 235:8,14,22;236:18,20, effectiveness (1) elicited (1) encourages (1) educate (11) 22;238:6,7,11;239:3,14, 32:3 371:6 178:5 70:14;120:3;180:11; 17;241:4,5,6,6;242:21; effects (4) eliminate (1) encouraging (4) 204:16;213:7;225:20; 243:3,6,14,20;244:1,6, 11:10;12:13;16:5,6 252:18 10:6;195:4;219:22; 308:14;343:12;360:11; 12,12;245:16;246:22; efficacy (1) else (21) 225:14 372:14,14 247:12,16,21;248:12,17; 72:5 83:2;91:21;94:5; end (25) educated (10) 250:8;251:1,3;252:14; efficient (1) 95:13;105:6;106:22; 6:20;30:22;84:20; 166:12;183:5;205:9; 253:12,16;254:13; 191:11 107:7;108:5;136:8; 85:15,16;99:14;107:11; 216:22;217:5;225:7; 256:16;261:21;264:9, effort (20) 144:5;232:13;248:19; 217:2;222:3,4;227:2; 238:5;281:6;284:22; 14;265:14;269:15,20,22; 9:4;26:18;31:6;59:8, 261:16;271:10;297:9; 274:20;305:1,9;306:6; 313:13 270:11;277:1;279:6,14, 13;62:9;85:2,18;87:22; 299:20;309:21;336:2; 315:7;327:13;340:21; educates (1) 16,22;280:13;281:2; 88:14;90:15;94:3; 341:16;354:10;374:20 349:11;355:22;369:22; 238:15 282:20;283:8;284:11, 223:18;225:18;252:16; else's (1) 376:9,10;377:4,11 educating (12) 20;286:2,8;287:1,14; 257:20;261:19;262:1; 102:8 ended (2) 6:14;86:1;175:4,5; 290:16;291:19,19;292:5, 326:12;361:19 elsewhere (1) 111:15;302:19 182:11;185:7;206:13; 22;301:9,22;302:13; efforts (26) 319:11 ending (1) 209:20;280:9,15; 303:15;304:22;306:16; 21:12,16,19;26:20; email (1) 340:21 303:12;315:14 308:18;309:9,14,15,19; 28:17;53:11;56:13;58:9; 227:5 end-of-life (2) Education (349) 310:5;311:4,10,15,16, 166:8;167:10;193:4; emanate (1) 50:13;87:18 3:3,12;5:13,14;6:13; 19,19;312:22;313:4,19; 195:4;204:16;205:8; 14:4 endorsement (1) 9:12;10:18;18:14;20:13, 314:8,19;318:9,20; 208:22;216:7,7;218:2, embarked (1) 363:19 17;21:6,17,18,22;22:4, 319:4,6,20;321:17; 18,21;220:5;275:21; 326:11 endpoint (2) 17;25:5,18,20,22;26:12; 322:19;329:2;332:4,21; 280:8;342:20;357:6; emerge (1) 236:16,16 28:18,20;29:1,6,8,10,17; 334:10;335:8;336:8,12; 359:20 370:12 ends (2) 30:8,10;31:8;33:21; 338:20;339:6,9,13; egregious (1) emergency (30) 298:18;313:6 34:9;37:21;38:5,8; 340:2,9,13,20;342:1; 362:12 55:11;104:13;105:20; enemy (2) 40:22;42:14,18;45:22; 343:12;344:10;346:11; egregiously (1) 127:18,20,20;128:3,4,7, 364:11;377:12 46:7;53:8,17;59:5,7,17, 347:21;349:6;350:12; 202:8 12,13,15;129:3;131:2,5, energy (3) 19;60:8,15;61:10,14,22; 360:6,13,19,19,20; eight (5) 8,10,14;138:20,21; 96:13;107:2,21 62:6,12;63:12;65:14; 361:16;362:11;363:11, 80:11;254:4;317:15; 186:8;204:13;228:22; enforce (1) 66:6,11;67:21;76:4,7,9; 22;364:2,7,18;367:1; 340:7;365:17 237:18;305:15;341:2,4, 169:17 77:2,9;80:5;81:9,11; 368:1,4,18;370:5,22; Eighty-four (1) 13,15;349:20 Enforcement (11) 82:17;85:22;87:15;88:3; 371:1,5,11,13;372:5,10; 274:19 emerging (1) 72:9;76:1,10;107:15; 90:3,12,21,22;92:22; 373:14;374:12 either (25) 196:2 168:4;169:15;170:9; 94:13;95:8,20;99:18; educational (28) 19:2;34:22;36:1; emphasis (1) 175:21,22;264:16; 101:15;104:12;105:4,5, 9:13,16;25:1;29:14; 138:4;145:18;146:7; 135:15 270:18 17;106:4,9;108:8,9,10; 74:21;88:5;157:12; 158:9;162:2;201:9; emphasize (2) engage (3) 110:20;111:15;112:15, 158:1;159:22;164:17; 245:13;246:9;259:22; 205:7;216:7 172:14,16,17 16;113:9;114:3,5,8,16; 166:9;180:12;183:18; 261:5,6,8,11;266:22; employed (1) engaged (13) 115:10,12;120:19;121:3, 184:6;189:22;191:13; 277:5;305:10;319:8; 322:1 22:22;94:3;98:1; 4;123:4,15;124:5; 206:14;236:2;247:6; 328:21,22;335:10; employees (1) 100:17;106:7;109:20; 126:18,19;128:6,9; 252:21;288:1;320:19; 341:21;372:22 116:9 170:20;173:14;176:2, 131:10;133:15,22; 324:9;360:21;363:1; EKG (1) empowering (1) 12;225:19;312:14;324:8 149:2;150:20;156:18; 370:17;372:3;373:2 134:11 25:5 engagement (6) 160:6;161:17;166:7,8, educators (2) elaborate (2) empowers (1) 22:21;96:22;98:17; 16,21;167:1,4,13,17,21; 240:3;339:17 140:4;339:2 213:2 102:19;103:19;279:1 169:12;175:4;178:6; effect (7) electronic (5) enable (1) engaging (3) 179:4;180:8,17,18,20; 72:19;78:15;141:10; 123:3;126:2;134:3; 20:14 59:16;173:21;191:13 181:5;182:10;183:10,16, 146:15;225:17;314:18; 239:5;246:14 enabled (2) enhance (3) 17,22;185:16,18;186:1, 315:1 electronical (1) 262:9;284:16 53:8;186:7;286:2 10,21;187:7,14,17,22; effective (25) 52:1 enact (1) enhanced (4) 188:4;190:2;192:7; 6:14;9:21;10:2;17:10; element (3) 302:17 99:7;129:13;197:10; 199:9,11,18;205:5; 26:20;28:6;29:11;49:18; 191:3;194:13;310:22 enacted (1) 233:5 206:21;207:5,5;208:8, 95:4;105:15;116:11; 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202:9 importance (3) 145:18 inclusive (1) individualized (4) illustrated (1) 10:19;71:16;200:4 incarcerate (1) 189:10 113:4;114:22;214:16; 165:3 important (47) 221:15 incomplete (1) 215:19 imagine (4) 5:12;6:11,16,22;7:6; incentive (18) 202:8 individuals (26) 45:4;178:3;263:7; 10:19;26:1;31:11;33:10; 135:11;245:18; inconsistency (1) 86:4;99:19;102:5; 333:19 34:9;78:9;83:10;112:7; 265:21,22;266:7; 337:3 103:2,21;104:14;136:2; immediate (4) 120:13;133:13;135:4; 267:19;268:19;289:17; inconsistent (1) 170:19,20;172:1,8,15, 18:18;104:12;105:11; 142:8;149:15;172:6; 293:4,17;294:22; 299:11 16;173:10;176:20; 228:3 174:11;175:5,17,19; 296:20;297:18;347:13; incorporate (3) 177:18;195:21;196:10; immediately (1) 189:19;191:3;197:8; 349:7;352:5;353:1; 303:2;317:8;348:11 211:22;242:17;247:3; 105:15 209:21;212:15;218:4; 356:20 incorporated (4) 251:21;252:22;283:20, immediate-release (8) 223:12;243:3;246:22; incentives (8) 52:7;111:9;140:8; 21;324:8 14:10;33:18;42:7,13; 254:13;259:6;331:17; 266:8;275:15;278:10, 366:9 industry (5) 43:1;159:3;211:9; 338:6;344:12,21; 10;292:16;296:19; incorporating (2) 114:18,20;165:20; 235:20 357:21;358:21;360:3; 347:18;348:11 51:22;302:20 213:22;250:12 immune (1) 371:4,15;374:17; incentivization (3) increase (10) inexpensive (1) 290:2 376:14;377:10,11 270:10;275:2;350:11 12:8;13:12;46:16; 18:5 immunity (1) importantly (2) incentivize (14) 55:7;66:22;67:6,9; infinitely (1) 47:3 58:9;231:15 218:13;265:14,18; 193:5;194:3;306:5 376:15 impact (27) imposing (1) 267:3;268:4,22;269:4; increased (11) inflammatory (1) 33:11;46:11;51:21; 205:15 294:12;347:21;348:3,4, 12:17;15:10;46:7,15; 235:18 79:1,7;104:6,12,21; impoverished (1) 5,8,22 143:3,6;186:17;188:5; influence (3) 105:1;115:11;150:22; 63:19 incentivized (3) 195:1;245:10;276:4 215:14;282:18;326:12 151:4,12;163:17,22; impractical (1) 245:16;295:13;354:8 increases (3) influenced (1) 167:8;188:1;194:7,16; 264:1 incentivizing (1) 212:17;340:5,15 185:5 219:17;233:16;234:13; impression (2) 296:4 increasing (4) inform (4) 243:16;246:1,5;285:13; 313:8,9 inch (1) 47:2;67:2,3;240:9 44:9;107:8;157:8; 372:4 improper (2) 221:21 increasingly (2) 253:7 impacted (3) 170:21;172:14 include (37) 58:15;319:18 information (33) 102:14;162:13;263:4 improve (9) 29:16;34:9;35:5,20; increment (1) 7:15;26:14;27:20; impactful (2) 28:2,9,11;120:2; 38:20,22;39:14;42:6,14; 351:9 30:11,18;31:11;32:12; 209:22;248:13 206:7;249:11;255:13; 43:11;62:1;88:10; indeed (1) 34:14;36:8;39:15; impacting (1) 367:3;372:4 113:18;123:18;125:7; 247:11 107:17;113:13;125:7; 374:3 improved (5) 126:20;128:12;134:9; independent (2) 127:5;143:18;144:8; impacts (1) 181:17;185:12; 152:3;159:12;162:9; 39:1;135:7 155:17;161:15;169:3, 204:15 248:17;293:2;376:7 186:11;190:21;197:1, Indian (13) 10;190:18;196:19; imperative (3) improvement (9) 17;200:1,2;206:15; 64:3;65:15,18;73:11, 200:3;208:2;219:10; 16:22;17:1;197:6 80:1;98:13;102:1; 223:13;226:5;232:4; 12,16,22;74:6,12;330:4, 237:6;241:17;244:19; imperatives (1) 116:20;243:15;292:18; 301:17;302:7;304:8,11; 13;340:3;365:2 247:22;262:11;277:17; 252:21 293:1;355:16;356:18 360:7;365:9 Indians (2) 362:7;374:7 implantation (1) improvements (4) included (14) 63:20;316:4 informed (4) 152:6 185:3;211:14;372:1; 32:12;36:21;37:19; indicate (1) 19:21;117:3;158:17; implement (16) 377:7 38:1;40:18;124:17,18, 212:1 213:3 35:13;42:20;44:9; improves (3) 19,20;125:15;134:1; indicated (4) infrastructure (2) 56:2;95:3;100:2;118:7; 181:16;212:20;213:7 187:19;227:4;360:13 118:15;127:15;159:7, 298:16;312:14 123:16;193:20;194:18; improving (9) includes (12) 11 ingredients (1) 195:3;218:16;308:6; 24:17;25:7;28:21; 36:19;43:19;61:9; Indication (1) 36:21 309:4;334:21;358:4 86:19;120:8,9;181:18; 113:3,5;125:17;159:5; 157:4 inherent (1) Implementation (7) 216:9;249:17 173:3;185:17;212:14; indications (1) 278:10 3:6;25:18;35:8;41:20; IMS (1) 219:21;278:16 15:8 inhibitor (1) 165:18;199:2;219:20 162:18 including (30) indictments (1) 188:15 implemented (12) in- (1) 28:22;60:15;61:14; 203:7 in-house (1) 35:3;36:19;37:13; 276:4 77:8;87:8;101:16; individual (26) 347:3 44:1;60:22;117:11; inadequate (1) 116:18;127:9;128:3; 32:17,18;98:5,18; initial (6) 123:21;130:3;152:1; 212:19 134:2;152:4;187:3; 124:11;137:17;138:12, 15:10,11;104:5; 183:16;246:2;362:5 inadvertently (1) 188:3,8;204:16;205:5; 14;171:20;174:21,21; 114:21;160:12;320:12 implementing (6) 306:5 206:9;208:22;211:8; 175:1;197:3;198:21; initially (5) 35:14;46:22;205:18; inappropriate (5) 213:5;216:17;217:17; 206:5;208:11;213:6; 96:7;100:7;258:6; 215:19;231:3;233:4 23:3;32:18;37:1; 219:13,22;224:15; 233:13;250:6;268:20; 259:22;311:18 implements (2) 56:14;181:2 280:2;282:7;283:2; 321:2;333:8;334:1,6; initiate (4) 363:8,8 inappropriately (1) 286:8;300:21 346:2;355:10 123:13;213:3;226:12; implied (1) 174:3 inclusion (1) individualize (1) 252:20 240:15 incapable (1) 360:2 212:21 initiating (1)

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135:17 223:16 intermediate (1) 42:22;52:13 151:13;164:2;243:4; initiation (3) instructions (2) 139:11 inviting (1) 260:6;291:11;297:16, 115:21,22;185:4 37:11;114:8 internal (1) 121:9 16;316:9;329:16; initiative (17) insufficient (2) 357:1 involve (11) 343:14;358:18 98:6;113:2,10;116:20; 306:19;338:20 internally (2) 91:13;163:7;234:21; ITEM (4) 117:10,13;119:7; insurance (8) 28:9;268:21 253:12;280:6;301:9; 3:2;4:2;82:6;177:4 120:21;121:12;122:4; 101:11;161:2;188:6; International (1) 302:6;338:14,14,15,15 iteration (1) 136:16;194:19;228:11; 268:1;293:18,21;350:3, 231:11 involved (35) 112:21 256:18;278:15;279:3,12 11 Internet (1) 42:16;55:20;92:4; iterative (1) initiatives (5) insure (1) 256:1 96:2;100:20,21;122:21; 247:12 199:8;208:22;279:18; 282:19 internist (2) 136:11;148:16,17; 283:1,5 integrate (1) 73:17;85:1 159:16;165:13,15; J injury (2) 297:8 interprofessional (2) 171:8;172:2;173:17; 16:12;104:3 integrated (4) 279:15;281:19 177:14;181:22;193:7; JAMA (1) injury-related (1) 121:19;183:10;246:8; intersection (1) 214:8;216:6;224:2; 14:20 238:2 359:2 147:19 226:4;230:14;240:4; James (3) inmate (1) integrates (1) intervals (1) 249:13;252:13,15; 3:16;111:1;168:7 76:5 57:14 197:18 267:22;268:1;277:15; Jan (4) inmates (1) integrating (1) intervene (2) 285:21;287:6;306:14; 78:20;79:13;147:14; 82:7 192:9 118:12;132:20 367:4 148:7 inmate's (1) integration (1) intervention (4) involvement (3) Janet (2) 82:11 109:4 18:4;311:3;312:2; 91:17,18;335:3 8:9,10 innocent (4) Integrative (2) 334:1 involves (4) January (1) 221:16;222:3;289:18; 230:5;275:22 interventions (4) 36:15;116:21;169:15; 43:2 290:9 intended (1) 106:20;136:10; 177:3 jarring (1) innovations (1) 156:14 214:19;360:21 involving (2) 202:3 298:5 intending (1) interviewing (1) 32:11;301:15 Jersey (6) innovator (1) 43:3 297:2 iPLEDGE (10) 48:16;61:7;92:1; 36:20 intends (2) into (62) 157:2;158:7,15,16; 229:3;237:20;261:3 inpatient (1) 44:3,4 7:16,21;11:4;21:22; 160:19,22;161:9;162:3, Jim (1) 159:19 intensive (1) 22:11;41:9;46:19;47:17; 8;163:1 168:10 in-person (2) 365:19 52:1,7;53:10;54:4;57:3; IR (1) Jimmy (1) 124:15;140:1 intent (4) 63:10,11;66:6;76:22; 44:5 137:6 input (6) 6:17;43:5;196:4,9 90:22;93:4;97:16; IRB (1) Joanna (13) 33:4;36:13;42:3; interact (5) 106:10;109:17;134:2; 256:2 62:21;63:4;76:20; 223:7;276:16;302:5 61:19;201:3;234:4; 139:5;140:9;154:13,17; irony (1) 79:14;80:7;300:5,6; insanity (1) 237:7;302:2 160:11;164:21;167:7, 216:14 314:13;331:2;339:10, 221:2 interaction (1) 10;168:1;176:16; irrelevant (1) 21;349:8;364:20 insert (2) 98:2 182:10;183:10;190:12; 329:17 job (7) 35:6;152:5 interactive (1) 192:9,10;195:15; Irvine (1) 6:14;30:1;144:20; insights (2) 158:9 202:20;203:10;206:3; 187:8 178:3;289:13;342:3; 359:20;369:18 interdisciplinary (3) 226:16;231:17;244:21; Island (2) 346:21 inspection (1) 132:22;133:12;270:16 246:8;249:5;260:7; 286:6;291:10 J-O-B (1) 141:12 interest (8) 272:22;275:12,13; isolated (2) 259:18 inspired (1) 63:14;85:22;110:12; 292:1;297:8;298:9; 118:6;322:6 joint (1) 326:4 147:13;166:22;179:15; 300:1;320:16;329:10, isotretinoin (3) 41:22 instance (2) 201:6;280:4 12;332:19;339:2; 157:1,4,15 Journal (2) 351:19;376:22 interested (11) 343:22;359:2 issue (32) 203:18;211:13 instances (1) 7:8;30:10;40:12;41:6; intolerable (1) 51:17;55:21;58:13; judgment (2) 224:20 143:16;166:6;254:1; 16:7 60:13;63:8,21;86:15; 293:20;318:15 instead (1) 277:17;280:15;287:17; introduce (4) 94:13,17;96:9;105:8; judgmental (1) 206:4 367:12 194:11;226:21; 109:19;132:19;145:2; 132:15 Institute (3) interesting (7) 299:16,17 180:16;185:14;191:8; judicial (1) 143:15;276:7;293:22 48:10;88:9;136:14; introduced (6) 212:12;232:7,8,10; 203:5 instituted (2) 144:22;236:9;288:13; 46:17;47:17,22;48:13; 243:3,4;286:22;313:8; July (6) 129:12;136:4 371:21 285:1;302:15 329:22;354:4,6;358:15, 7:12;36:13;56:18; institution (1) interests (3) introducing (2) 17;362:2;369:10 180:22;195:3;323:6 288:2 113:15;181:11;202:10 219:13;227:18 issued (3) jump (4) institutional (2) interface (2) invested (1) 62:10;112:21;202:11 149:17;174:1;300:1; 70:4;74:13 198:9;214:4 317:19 issues (22) 319:13 institutions (1) interfere (4) investigate (2) 10:16;17:11;18:20; jump-drived (1) 255:5 170:14,18;171:11; 169:19;262:14 22:16;30:13;51:4;60:11, 64:3 instruction (1) 177:8 invite (2) 14;65:11;92:11;138:5; jumping (1)

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94:1 kick (1) labeling (2) latest (2) 104:21;106:22;109:2; justice (1) 8:13 34:17;151:19 195:15;276:8 119:22;166:17;167:20; 338:16 kids (1) labs (1) latter (1) 313:22;336:5;354:3 justifies (1) 288:22 86:17 299:4 learners (10) 328:5 kill (1) lack (7) Laugher (1) 189:10,17;190:9; 364:7 45:6;57:10;144:13; 343:5 191:9;192:8;210:2; K killing (1) 178:15;192:3;193:19; Laughter (14) 240:2;241:20;280:18; 201:22 344:10 73:9;94:6;121:5; 281:22 Kahn (19) kills (1) laid (2) 141:22;149:8;227:14; learning (16) 3:18;80:4,4;81:7; 239:17 312:11;318:11 266:18;272:20;273:11; 86:17;140:12;220:3; 148:22;149:1;180:5,7,7; kind (42) landscape (3) 288:7,9;292:12;346:16; 240:4;253:5;291:3; 249:22;292:4,4,13; 19:19;29:10;32:7; 22:1,9;28:20 358:11 321:4;323:21;332:3,3,4; 293:7;353:20,21;356:7, 45:8;46:20;47:13;48:9, landscapes (1) launch (1) 333:7;351:13;354:14; 12;372:7 10,20;63:10;102:11,17; 45:4 211:10 355:18,19 Kaiser (10) 122:9;128:5;131:22; lapse (1) launched (1) least (10) 3:8;120:19;121:20; 134:22;135:1;167:9; 54:22 362:6 82:20;111:14,19; 183:8;244:3;250:4; 170:6;171:5,6;172:14; large (19) Laura (3) 112:3;119:15;138:20; 252:2;296:6;313:11; 173:16,21;177:5,6,7; 8:21;9:15;16:2;31:7; 4:5;204:5,6 167:3;187:19;248:10; 359:1 232:1;264:8;265:21; 63:19;65:16;122:3; law (12) 371:7 Kara (3) 277:21,22;297:20; 146:6;156:8;161:5; 46:20;47:17;60:22; leave (5) 4:11;223:2,4 298:7;313:10,17; 171:7;212:2;219:10; 76:1,10;107:15;178:7, 14:6;200:15;266:9; Karol (2) 346:19;359:22;361:13; 269:3;328:1;337:9; 21;221:19;264:16; 325:16;340:19 73:21;74:6 363:9;373:22;374:5 369:11;370:19;374:2 270:18;314:5 leaves (2) Kasper (1) kinds (20) largely (1) Lawhern (4) 155:11;236:17 60:17 28:1;29:14;30:17,17, 87:13 4:4;200:19,20,21 leaving (1) Kate (1) 21;166:11;167:9; larger (5) laws (2) 203:4 228:5 168:16,18;169:7;171:4; 19:8;28:20;30:16; 71:8;143:19 lectures (3) Katherine (2) 173:22;174:22;176:2; 31:5;166:7 lay (1) 278:18,20;283:11 3:22;195:10 270:5;278:10;292:21; largest (4) 30:20 led (1) Katzman (25) 311:5;362:22;372:10 33:8;63:17;122:1; layer (7) 58:7 62:21;63:4,5;73:10; kits (4) 234:10 247:19;249:10,19; left (9) 78:2;79:13;80:6;82:9; 85:20;114:7,12,14 Larry (2) 290:18;345:8,9,22 40:1;136:21;139:11; 300:6,6;314:16;317:1,4; knew (1) 84:22;356:22 layers (1) 265:9;273:21;288:19; 318:18;331:3;336:18; 311:5 Las (1) 247:18 296:11;299:18;334:2 339:22;346:6;349:9; Knight (4) 69:22 lays (1) legal (2) 364:21;365:22;366:2,7, 4:6;206:17,18,19 laser-focused (1) 57:22 174:1;203:8 15;374:21 knowing (1) 370:9 Lazarus (9) legally (2) Kear (9) 203:9 last (55) 94:3,16;95:22;102:10; 11:1;305:7 3:20;87:6,6;189:5,6,6; knowingly (1) 27:4,16;47:20;48:21; 104:2,5;131:21;296:16; LEGER (14) 359:18,18;363:14 314:4 51:11,12;54:18;55:20; 300:11 229:14,15;240:21,22, keep (10) knowledge (18) 56:12,18;58:11,18;59:3; Lazris (1) 22;241:2;251:14,19; 33:10;255:9,16; 38:22;70:6;71:19; 60:2;62:8;63:6;66:22; 204:2 262:2,3;267:5,6;283:3,4 264:21;287:3;291:17; 72:4;84:12;97:15;160:1, 77:19;82:5,6;92:7; lead (16) legislate (1) 343:8;364:5,8;376:12 7;161:20;181:16;215:8; 118:1;120:17;145:19; 14:17;56:10;58:19; 352:9 keeping (3) 222:16;225:1;244:8; 166:2;167:22;192:6; 64:15;120:20;126:22; legislating (1) 264:13;289:10;370:4 248:3;340:6;357:14; 202:11;205:4;209:4; 133:18,19;164:8,12; 310:4 keeps (1) 360:22 213:22;216:21;220:16; 212:7;286:22;302:11; legislation (10) 46:18 knowledgeable (2) 221:1;223:2;225:19; 306:20;328:12,13 48:17;58:12;60:12; KemPharm (1) 214:15,21 241:14;265:10,16; leadership (5) 61:8;75:21;82:5;91:12; 96:1 knowledge-based (1) 266:13;271:6;274:1; 26:9;132:6,10;281:9; 242:16;284:15,21 Kentucky (12) 140:17 281:13;282:4;284:1,16; 315:13 legislative (5) 58:21;59:16;60:9,18, known (3) 285:6;296:13;299:17; leadership's (1) 45:9;46:4;48:8;229:1; 21;214:2;283:12,12,15; 73:6;168:12;200:21 319:21;323:4;324:17; 323:5 345:15 284:8;351:20;352:2 knows (4) 370:8,21;375:12 leading (4) legislatively (1) kept (1) 8:18;263:7;293:16; Lastly (3) 67:15;85:2;92:18; 91:5 313:19 361:22 191:6;200:15;219:7 195:14 legislator (2) Kerr (1) Krebs (1) late (4) leads (2) 310:13;368:6 189:5 146:5 14:14;209:4;333:5; 127:2;255:1 legislators (4) key (13) 375:19 learn (7) 284:21;303:3;367:6; 39:18;53:14;56:8; L later (11) 119:22;241:22,22; 368:16 57:8;65:6;67:11,22; 7:19;11:16,16;30:20; 278:6;354:8;357:17; legislature (10) 68:3;69:17;198:1;200:2; label (1) 35:16;52:16;62:17;87:3; 361:21 49:16;91:15;301:10, 207:16;315:13 32:16 254:10;301:22;361:21 learned (9) 11;302:22;309:2;

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312:16;352:8;353:5; 322:10 link (4) 17;104:18;106:19; 130:8;143:1;145:13,15; 361:16 licensees (1) 27:10;36:10;89:3; 107:1;124:5;176:1; 163:16;183:8,8,9; legislatures (4) 368:1 218:21 186:3;262:22;263:10,15, 194:15;226:10;227:8; 45:11;301:6;345:17; licenses (4) linkages (2) 22;276:20;309:11; 242:11;243:10;247:17; 369:8 185:15;236:13;290:6; 86:20;129:4 315:18;318:5,16;319:7; 249:3,9;259:20;267:12; legitimate (18) 322:14 linked (7) 324:5;329:12;331:17; 282:1;285:13;289:14; 13:4;139:9;164:14; licensing (13) 34:1;36:3;38:11;41:7; 332:8;334:2;361:7; 295:4;297:6;301:21; 169:22;170:5,11,14,16; 37:15;60:13;67:19; 106:5;185:16;254:15 370:18;375:22 303:3;308:5;309:10; 171:12,20;172:1,7,8; 69:3;89:18;260:13; linking (1) localities (1) 310:4;322:2;323:11; 173:18;177:6,9,15,22 263:22;264:8;312:10; 218:11 292:1 327:16;328:7,10; less (11) 313:7;314:21;317:12; links (2) locality (1) 330:17;335:10;338:11; 28:11;29:9;177:1; 319:19 37:20;88:4 261:2 343:18,19,20;345:6,15; 188:10;260:12;272:1; licensure (10) Lisa (23) localized (1) 361:12;368:22,22 273:7;308:22;326:18; 34:2;62:14;218:12; 44:17,20,21;52:18; 210:11 looked (21) 334:15;359:5 220:1;250:19;255:18; 60:1;87:14;88:9;90:9; locally (6) 73:6;80:14;96:7; lessen (1) 289:7,11,12;290:17 299:7;300:14;307:2; 96:11;124:4;319:9,10, 115:5;119:2,5,8;122:15; 342:19 lie (1) 315:2;319:17;320:20; 15;332:1 133:9;137:13;138:18; lessons (1) 333:10 333:1;336:21;343:1; located (2) 142:1,5,9;184:5;248:14; 119:22 life (10) 344:17;346:14;347:19; 73:13;121:16 297:17;303:7;335:8; Let’s (1) 25:8;83:6;144:14; 350:17;366:21;374:10 lock- (1) 336:21;352:10 337:14 147:3;186:5;202:22; Lisa's (1) 46:22 looking (50) letters (1) 222:4;233:16;239:16; 315:13 logical (4) 40:9;44:6;45:3,10; 37:14 315:7 list (2) 218:9;238:13;239:19; 47:9;49:14;51:20;52:2; level (62) lifeguards (1) 38:17;260:17 291:14 70:5;74:15;77:15;84:13, 5:22;9:5;22:7;26:3; 186:2 listed (1) logistically (1) 16;85:13;86:6;92:21; 29:7;48:3;89:13;90:20; lifelong (4) 36:21 345:19 94:12;99:11;106:15; 96:22;98:18;102:13,17; 240:2;241:20;280:18; listen (3) logo (1) 109:6;117:6;122:12; 103:15;104:14;106:11; 323:21 6:17;100:18;106:13 288:5 147:18;162:12;177:7; 107:1;132:11;137:18, life's (1) listening (2) long (21) 198:9;266:17;287:8; 20;176:1;218:10; 250:17 7:22;354:3 19:17;125:12;135:18; 309:14;310:7;313:6; 234:19;237:16;252:21; lift (1) literally (1) 160:12;171:19;172:12; 325:11,22;328:8;330:1; 259:9;260:10;262:17; 77:10 260:16 211:17;227:16;241:15; 333:2,4;342:21;344:3,4; 263:15,18;269:11; light (1) literature (3) 255:12,17;264:13,15; 347:4;348:9;355:22; 279:6;283:1;289:10; 40:7 181:6,14;187:11 269:22;278:22;308:13; 361:3;367:18;368:7,12, 290:18;306:21;309:10, likely (12) little (43) 312:2;316:10;338:7; 17,18;370:6 10;311:6,10,15;318:16; 154:2,10;178:22; 8:14;11:15;21:11,12, 356:2;374:8 looks (3) 319:7;320:4;324:5; 184:7,12,14,16,20; 21;34:13;35:8;53:11; long- (2) 45:12;215:16;368:9 328:9;329:12;331:17; 231:16;317:16;372:16; 63:9;64:5;66:12;78:3, 32:22;43:1 loops (1) 332:8;334:2,15;335:8; 374:2 15,15;112:17;128:6; long-acting (9) 332:4 336:11;337:6;340:18; limit (4) 131:17;138:17;146:13; 14:9;32:1;33:16; Lorraine (2) 349:12;350:18;354:7; 59:2;105:19;209:17; 167:2,22;169:9;185:18; 38:16;63:7;154:4; 92:8;295:11 361:7;362:6;371:5,13; 304:9 235:5;238:4,14;240:18; 165:11;208:9;271:6 lose (2) 374:15 limitations (1) 249:21;266:6;285:16; longer (6) 238:18;288:8 levels (7) 41:12 288:12,18;289:14; 104:20;118:18;219:1; loses (2) 194:6;201:17;220:3; limited (4) 290:20;331:4;332:11; 245:11;257:14;364:15 288:5;321:1 286:8;308:16;333:17; 17:11,14;90:18; 333:12;337:20;349:10; longest (1) losing (2) 370:18 222:16 353:12;359:8;375:5,18 210:22 202:21;377:2 leverage (3) limiting (3) live (14) longitudinal (1) loss (2) 87:15;88:2;284:20 209:15;216:8;295:14 69:21;83:6;125:9; 200:5 214:20;277:21 liabilities (4) limits (10) 128:8;140:13,14; long-range (1) lost (1) 17:4,7,17,21 58:16,20,21;116:1; 183:17;184:4;189:15; 25:9 129:20 liability (2) 118:8;302:21;304:14; 261:2;281:3;282:11; longstanding (1) lot (59) 348:7;349:4 305:1;310:9;326:4 295:15;365:18 228:10 15:19;29:13;41:12; Liaison (2) Linda (4) livelihood (1) long-term (3) 45:11;47:15;73:11;77:5, 168:3,11 4:10;143:11;220:10; 89:18 115:22;117:22;225:18 13;78:1;79:3;82:17,20; license (15) 221:8 lives (4) look (73) 86:8;87:12;90:10;92:10, 72:21;89:17;178:15, line (2) 94:14,15;174:21; 27:10;33:6;35:15; 13;93:9;128:19;131:19; 16,17;186:2;218:17; 232:15;269:7 290:6 39:18,20;45:20;46:19; 140:7,21;161:15; 256:12;260:1,5,19; lines (4) LMS (2) 48:11;49:17;51:2,14,17, 166:17;167:19,20; 270:21;301:2,2;347:17 117:8;208:3;220:15; 281:4;287:15 22;52:3,4;73:8;79:8; 168:15,22;169:5;237:4; licensed (7) 318:17 local (33) 83:21;84:6;89:16,17,21; 241:16;244:17;250:4; 164:18;282:2,2; lineup (1) 6:1;9:5;22:7;48:3; 90:14;100:18;106:13; 255:11;256:1;269:6,12; 283:22;291:9;318:13; 342:5 49:5;55:18;97:4;102:13, 108:20,21;120:1,14; 272:17;275:3;277:22;

Min-U-Script® A Matter of Record (24) legislatures - lot (301) 890-4188 FDA - Training Health Care Providers on Pain Management and Safe Use of Opioid Analgesics May 9, 2017

282:11,22;292:8;311:3; 18:16 13;211:6;214:17; 250:1,8;254:12;265:15; Maryland (3) 314:4;320:15;325:4,6; maintain (4) 215:15;218:14;219:13; 272:16;312:18;334:15, 1:18;186:13;362:19 336:9;340:14;342:6; 208:11;218:17; 221:11;222:12,17,19; 19;342:1;372:22; Massachusetts (3) 357:2;363:13,14;364:6; 260:22;281:5 223:19;224:2;225:6,8, 374:11;375:14;376:6 59:9,9;343:3 370:7;373:4,12;377:3 maintained (3) 18;226:4;228:10,15; manipulative (1) Massachusetts' (1) lots (9) 154:20;201:16,19 230:6;232:3;233:1; 206:10 58:19 132:18,20;133:14; maintaining (2) 239:10;240:11;242:1; manual (1) massive (2) 134:1;139:22;148:15; 37:3;120:7 244:11;255:1,14; 223:14 13:9,14 277:4;281:6;359:19 Maintenance (6) 267:11;276:1,9;280:6; manufacture (1) MAT (3) love (5) 3:6;165:19;354:15,18; 281:8,10;286:4;290:15; 169:21 183:2;199:3,5 89:1;135:7;288:16; 355:12;356:17 300:9;301:15;303:7; manufacturer (1) material (1) 300:17;320:14 major (3) 315:16;319:5;335:22; 154:9 357:17 loved (1) 92:13;197:22;280:5 340:8;366:14;371:9 manufacturers (10) materials (5) 239:8 majority (9) manager (1) 32:21;34:21;35:4,5; 37:5;158:1;162:7; low (3) 14:8,9;16:17;42:12, 210:22 36:8,15;152:1;154:2; 206:15;241:6 63:18;116:6;131:6 18;159:10;193:8; managers (1) 165:8,12 Maternal (3) lower (4) 237:18;312:12 113:14 many (89) 92:9,19;295:12 15:21;137:15;184:22; maker (1) managing (6) 5:9;9:3;10:7;11:6; Matter (386) 341:11 278:8 223:12;233:7;239:4,5; 13:21;16:7,9;18:17; 1:;3:;4:;5:;6:;7:;8:,4; lozenge (1) makes (7) 262:21;284:6 20:7;21:15,15;23:5; 9:;10:;11:;12:;13:;14:; 159:13 5:18;79:22;109:9; mandate (19) 24:8,10;26:22;27:1; 15:;16:;17:;18:;19:;20:; luck (1) 190:19;272:19;320:22; 67:20;108:19;179:6; 29:20,20;64:18,19; 21:;22:;23:;24:;25:;26:; 20:21 364:6 181:10;211:21;212:6; 65:21;66:1;67:11;69:19, 27:;28:;29:;30:;31:;32:; lucky (1) making (21) 218:20;242:6,8;262:18; 20;72:16;82:18;94:2,4; 33:;34:;35:;36:;37:;38:; 167:15 23:16;26:13;37:16; 263:11;264:8;277:7; 95:6,6;119:21;136:3; 39:;40:;41:;42:;43:;44:; lunch (5) 86:20;95:13;121:22; 290:18;312:8;323:16; 142:11;145:5,7,15,17; 45:;46:;47:;48:;49:;50:; 7:5;93:17;150:1; 128:17;129:18;133:6; 324:2;343:11,15 156:3;163:9;165:13; 51:;52:;53:;54:;55:;56:; 179:16,20 147:17;239:16;246:14; mandated (35) 174:12,13;186:6;191:9, 57:;58:;59:;60:;61:;62:; lunch-and-learns (1) 286:22;291:19;292:10; 46:22;47:4;60:12; 9;193:8,22;198:2,2; 63:;64:;65:;66:;67:;68:; 96:21 314:4;318:7;328:9; 64:1,4,9;67:19;70:8; 200:13,17;202:16,18; 69:;70:;71:;72:;73:;74:; Lurie (57) 344:8;348:14;363:5 74:2;75:6;76:10,11; 205:16;214:9,11; 75:;76:;77:;78:;79:;80:; 4:16;299:3;300:3; MALE (1) 111:10;181:12;212:1; 215:20;216:12;218:15, 81:;82:;83:;84:;85:;86:; 306:8;309:21;311:1,15; 363:20 235:13;241:3;245:16; 22;224:14,19;230:8,11, 87:;88:;89:;90:;91:;92:; 312:4;314:13;316:13; malpractice (1) 246:6;247:4;248:18; 14;231:20;236:6;243:5; 93:;94:;95:;96:;97:;98:; 317:1,3;318:6;319:12; 349:4 250:14;251:2;285:5; 248:7;255:18;261:20; 99:;100:;101:;102:;103:; 320:6;324:10,13; manage (13) 295:13;301:9,17; 268:22;281:3,3;282:1,3; 104:;105:;106:;107:; 327:19;329:13;330:5,8, 9:5;16:22;18:12; 302:20;314:18;321:13; 286:7,11;295:17; 108:;109:;110:;111:; 19,22;331:2,4;333:1; 19:18;20:4;30:3;212:13; 323:12;345:16;348:13; 309:17;319:2;331:16; 112:;113:;114:;115:; 334:18;336:3,19; 214:20;219:4;225:22; 359:15;361:16 332:2,3;333:7,20;340:5; 116:;117:;118:;119:; 338:18;341:7,11,14,20; 239:3;264:6;284:9 mandates (8) 365:2 120:;121:;122:;123:; 343:1;344:15;346:7,17; manageable (1) 91:10,11,12;108:20; Manzo (8) 124:;125:;126:;127:; 347:19;349:8;350:17, 19:14 205:15;206:3;245:4; 31:1,16,17,18;93:3; 128:;129:;130:;131:; 22;351:7,16;353:17; managed (4) 362:3 151:16;154:4;180:14 132:;133:;134:;135:; 356:21;358:12;359:13; 161:5;213:1;218:10; mandating (10) map (6) 136:;137:;138:;139:; 363:12,16,19;364:20; 306:4 48:14;108:18;208:11; 48:7;54:19;56:21; 140:;141:;142:;143:; 365:20;366:1,5,12; Management (106) 233:2;242:2;309:15; 57:4;58:3;77:14 144:;145:;146:;147:; 369:17 1:5;16:21;18:15; 310:4,5;312:15;323:16 March (5) 148:;149:;150:;151:; luxury (1) 19:16;20:7;24:15,21; mandatorily (2) 39:9;75:17;114:11; 152:;153:;154:;155:; 341:4 25:13;28:21;30:16; 334:22;339:20 194:22;202:11 156:;157:;158:;159:; 31:19;32:17;34:15; mandatory (61) Mariana (1) 160:;161:;162:;163:; M 41:22;42:15,17;43:11, 20:16;29:17;33:21; 291:10 164:;165:;166:;167:; 19;48:13;50:11;59:12, 42:18;51:14,20;52:5,8; Marin (2) 168:;169:;170:;171:; magically (1) 22;60:16;62:2,13;63:3; 65:13;66:5,10;81:9,10; 263:6,8 172:;173:;174:;175:; 269:5 64:7;68:9;75:9;79:4,18; 112:22;116:12;131:12; mark (2) 176:;177:;178:;179:; Maguire (4) 82:17,19;83:4;92:16; 135:5;143:19;167:1,3, 342:15,16 180:;181:;182:;183:; 3:21;192:18,19,20 94:21;101:16;105:18; 13;169:12;180:18,20; marked (1) 184:;185:;186:;187:; main (7) 109:11;110:5;115:18; 181:4,20;182:1;183:6; 65:1 188:;189:;190:;191:; 13:12;54:4;144:18; 116:6;118:15;120:10; 190:2,4;191:15,22; Marsha (1) 192:;193:;194:;195:; 171:14;220:12;258:5; 143:13,18;144:7;150:4, 192:1;195:5;208:14; 361:20 196:;197:;198:;199:; 273:14 6;151:18;164:17; 211:19;221:11;222:1, Martin (1) 200:;201:;202:;203:; mainly (2) 182:14,14;183:18; 19;230:21;231:13; 204:1 204:;205:;206:;207:; 104:8;347:13 185:19;188:2,4;200:11; 234:14,15;235:8; Mary (1) 208:,6;209:;210:;211:; mainstay (1) 206:15;207:21;209:5,11, 243:14;245:3;247:1,6; 5:21 212:;213:;214:;215:;

Min-U-Script® A Matter of Record (25) lots - Matter (301) 890-4188 FDA - Training Health Care Providers on Pain Management and Safe Use of Opioid Analgesics May 9, 2017

216:;217:;218:;219:; 325:5;330:8;333:22; 103:17 71:14;76:2;141:19; 52:20;53:1,3;62:19; 220:,5;221:;222:;223:; 334:1,13;342:16;366:21 media (2) 198:7;199:14 67:12;76:20;87:14;91:4, 224:;225:;226:;227:; maybe (23) 203:3;310:15 medications (13) 20;319:12;366:21 228:;229:;230:;231:; 9:22;11:15;45:15,19; Medicaid (8) 9:10;37:3;79:19; member (18) 232:;233:;234:;235:; 73:7;78:4;81:2;91:17; 47:1;55:14;178:19; 94:18;111:16;136:9; 51:13;110:7,16; 236:;237:;238:;239:; 135:1;161:17;246:15; 266:5;292:17;326:11; 201:11;219:5;221:1; 125:18;137:9;204:17; 240:;241:;242:;243:; 256:10;262:20;266:22; 327:12,13 234:3;258:21;302:4; 205:1;228:10;229:12, 244:;245:;246:;247:; 287:22;288:12;290:19; medical (150) 306:7 17;251:15;278:15; 248:;249:;250:;251:; 355:16;361:5;362:19, 6:1;12:10;13:5;14:13; medicine (69) 281:19;288:8;290:12; 252:;253:;254:;255:; 19;363:7;367:7 34:1;44:19;47:8;49:14, 16:11,13;91:14;92:10; 292:2;298:1;363:20 256:;257:;258:;259:; MBA (1) 16;51:11;52:1;58:13; 110:6;123:1,9,12,17; members (25) 260:;261:;262:;263:; 4:13 59:9,11,16;63:11;65:13; 127:17;128:1,18,20; 22:14;27:2;90:18,21; 264:;265:;266:;267:; McDowell (2) 66:6,11;67:21;68:10,15; 130:18;131:14,15; 121:15,21;190:6;201:5, 268:;269:;270:;271:; 263:3,8 69:1;70:9,11,12;76:9; 137:11;170:11,15,17; 8;208:19;209:7,11; 272:;273:;274:;275:; MD (9) 83:13,19;84:8,11;89:2,4; 171:12;172:1,7;177:15; 210:12;217:13;231:12, 276:;277:;278:;279:; 3:7,9,18;4:6,16,20; 90:11;98:11;99:6,8; 184:8;203:18;205:4; 21;236:14;237:18; 280:;281:;282:;283:; 204:1,1,2 101:19;110:4,13;121:11, 207:8;210:21;211:14; 246:1;250:13;269:16; 284:;285:;286:;287:; mean (28) 16,16,18,19,21;122:1, 214:14;217:17;228:3,7, 280:11;282:17;287:19; 288:;289:;290:;291:; 142:10;157:22; 16;123:3;124:1,6,7,9; 8,8,22,22;229:3,4;230:2; 346:22 292:;293:,12;294:,15; 220:14;238:13;241:13; 125:2,4;126:2;134:3; 234:5;237:17,19;248:8; membership (4) 295:;296:;297:;298:; 256:1;260:15;272:1; 136:13;139:3;141:5; 255:7;262:16;263:19; 78:1;201:4;250:13; 299:;300:;301:;302:; 291:5,11;312:7;316:22; 168:18;170:5,19;171:16, 264:5;269:3;273:1,6,7; 287:20 303:;304:;305:;306:; 323:19;325:5;332:21; 20;172:8;173:18; 279:4;280:15;294:9; memorandum (1) 307:;308:;309:;310:; 333:13;335:19;336:8, 175:13;176:7;177:6,9; 295:12;300:22;302:16; 116:9 311:;312:;313:;314:; 14;338:11;343:11; 178:14,16;183:15; 303:1,5;304:13;305:11; Memorial (1) 315:;316:;317:;318:; 351:8,17;360:8,10; 185:14,18;188:4; 326:8,14;347:5;352:7, 214:3 319:;320:;321:;322:; 365:21;368:5;372:8 193:11;194:16;202:17; 15;357:1 men (1) 323:;324:;325:;326:; meaning (3) 203:7;204:10;207:4,5,7; medicines (2) 67:2 327:,9,10;328:;329:; 275:6;314:21;321:1 209:19;213:13;218:11, 144:15;180:9 mental (11) 330:;331:;332:;333:; meaningful (8) 12,17;219:8,9,14; Medicine's (1) 123:1;195:17;196:1,4, 334:;335:;336:;337:; 5:17;243:6,15;244:21; 221:18;224:19;229:21; 211:2 16;197:5,14;198:15; 338:;339:;340:;341:; 245:18;312:19;324:8; 234:4,5;238:11,15; meds (2) 200:5,6,15 342:;343:;344:;345:; 363:4 239:5;242:16;245:5; 142:7;360:9 mention (7) 346:;347:;348:;349:; means (14) 247:21;249:12,15; Medscape (3) 78:10;198:3;329:17; 350:,17;351:;352:,6; 36:2,15;38:5;46:10; 253:19;254:7;257:4,8; 87:9;189:11;278:16 330:19,21;366:7;371:20 353:;354:;355:;356:; 49:18;82:18;142:18; 259:14;260:11,13; meet (16) mentioned (19) 357:;358:;359:;360:; 193:13;246:15;247:19; 262:19;263:13;264:2; 50:3;54:2;67:14;68:4; 38:15;41:1;49:2; 361:;362:;363:,7;364:; 261:9;318:3;333:11; 265:12;268:12,22; 106:18;109:15;116:13; 84:14;92:1;113:8;114:1; 365:;366:;367:;368:; 341:4 269:2;271:14;274:10, 127:2;170:5;242:3,17; 138:18;140:2;152:17; 369:;370:;371:;372:; measure (3) 11;280:13;282:14; 261:8,11;284:11; 155:14;196:5;259:15; 373:;374:;375:;376:; 120:13;139:10;310:18 283:8;285:10;298:7; 334:12;335:20 268:7;319:21;359:1; 377: measured (2) 300:15;301:18;307:9, meeting (41) 371:19;372:8;373:17 matters (1) 362:18,18 13;312:10;318:21; 5:5,12;6:3;7:17,18; mentor (1) 332:6 measurement (1) 319:6,18;321:20;323:1, 8:13;20:2,21;21:5;23:6; 275:10 maximize (2) 79:10 15;325:9,22;334:3; 31:10;38:6;43:2,17; mentoring (5) 191:18;211:18 measurements (1) 335:13;344:5,8;347:2; 44:7,8;47:5;51:11;56:5; 148:4,10,11,13,14 May (67) 79:11 352:15;353:8;357:7; 67:11;116:17;137:8; mentorship (1) 1:10;15:14,15;16:12; measures (3) 368:9 150:14;152:15;169:2; 275:13 17:14,15;23:10;34:11; 130:6;131:2,22 medically (1) 215:6;222:13;254:11; Mercer (1) 41:4;43:15;45:16;50:17; measuring (1) 18:15 280:3;285:21;287:16; 263:2 52:4;61:20;103:10; 136:17 Medicare (4) 288:6,20;295:2;302:9; merits (2) 125:4;137:22,22;156:8, mechanics (1) 178:19;266:5;292:16; 311:22;312:16;323:5,5; 29:7,18 13;161:18;164:5,8,11, 223:15 355:15 336:5;377:21 message (6) 11,12;178:7;186:4; mechanism (4) Medication (28) meetings (14) 22:20,21;132:15; 202:2;203:1;204:3; 275:13;293:15; 31:19;35:5;37:6;96:3; 5:9;12:22;24:19;33:5, 136:19;202:1;276:7 205:12;209:12;211:20; 327:16;344:22 100:4,22;103:1,10,13; 5;45:2;54:1;82:8;127:1, messages (1) 212:6;219:1;225:9; Mechanisms (8) 104:7;107:6;110:16; 3,6;128:8;285:20;334:6 136:19 232:9,10,20;233:7; 3:11;29:8;43:12; 126:7;130:11;144:1; meets (5) met (7) 257:21;262:14;264:19; 256:15,16;274:2; 152:4;153:3,5,9;158:4; 68:5;242:12;261:10; 5:9;40:20;153:17; 269:13;275:2;284:6,9; 297:14;328:12 160:8;162:6;194:8; 291:13,14 155:5;157:19;304:18; 290:13;299:14;302:3,3, MED (2) 200:4;236:17;237:4; Melina (1) 345:4 10;306:2,2;309:2,2; 367:8,9 274:13;295:5 300:12 metabolize (2) 310:21;314:9;316:10; med-guide (1) medication-assisted (5) Melinda (11) 201:10,10

Min-U-Script® A Matter of Record (26) matters - metabolize (301) 890-4188 FDA - Training Health Care Providers on Pain Management and Safe Use of Opioid Analgesics May 9, 2017 methadone (2) 73:13;177:19;221:22 271:17 modifications (2) 3;75:2;76:13;79:3; 134:10;339:4 Milio (4) missing (6) 42:8;150:14 81:17;84:10;87:22;88:4, methadone's (1) 92:8,8;295:11,11 6:8;106:2;108:22; modified (3) 7,12;91:15,18;96:11,12, 185:4 military (2) 252:19;310:2,22 32:11;42:5;373:20 12;97:14,17;98:17; methamphetamine (8) 100:5;101:17 mission (4) modify (5) 108:9,16;112:1,4; 66:1,3,14,16;327:22; milliequivalents (1) 169:14,18;170:9; 44:3,4;213:4;373:17, 113:21;114:12;115:3; 330:16,17;338:3 80:19 207:16 18 117:2;119:11;131:17; methamphetamine-related (1) milligram (2) Missouri (2) module (3) 137:14;143:20;147:12; 66:17 73:2,4 47:20;49:2 125:12;296:2;354:20 155:8;156:9;163:18; method (1) milligrams (1) mistake (2) modules (7) 165:10;167:22;178:9; 100:3 130:21 366:14,16 61:5;114:5;125:7; 179:7;180:19;181:10; methodologies (1) million (19) mistreatment (1) 199:7;282:15;354:12; 183:5;184:7,11,14,16, 42:3 11:19;12:4;13:14; 109:17 372:8 19;187:15;188:3; metric (1) 14:4;15:17;16:3;111:18; misunderstanding (1) moment (2) 192:10;196:11;198:20; 116:21 112:1;121:15;163:2,8, 168:22 100:18;106:13 199:13;202:6,18;203:2; metrics (9) 13,18;172:20;173:2; misuse (10) momentarily (1) 204:9;207:14;208:19; 113:15,18;115:1; 198:4;207:15;271:22; 32:19;37:2;59:13; 70:7 221:13;224:5,15,21; 116:15;125:13,14,16; 280:4 65:20;92:18;95:4;197:7; Money (11) 231:13,14;237:10;240:8, 128:11;343:21 millions (2) 205:3;209:6;220:6 222:9;266:1;268:10; 15;244:17;249:11; Mexico (45) 14:12;201:9 misused (1) 275:1;277:10;290:7; 250:2;270:9,17,17; 62:22,22;63:11,16; mills (2) 193:9 314:4;327:13,18; 275:17,22;277:10; 64:2,8,12,18;65:8,15,18; 13:20;303:22 misusing (1) 340:14;364:6 281:21;287:2;295:8; 66:2,4;67:8,10;68:10,14; mind (6) 32:14 money- (1) 296:21;297:13;305:17; 69:1,4,6,17,20,21;70:9, 33:10;81:5;264:12; mitigate (2) 278:7 310:10;311:5;314:11; 11;72:7;73:10;74:2,3, 287:3;340:1;376:12 157:6;204:15 Money's (1) 316:11;317:11,16; 17;75:5,17;76:12;78:3; mindful (2) mitigating (1) 275:16 318:4;321:21,21,22; 82:1;194:20;300:8; 81:6;285:16 215:21 monitor (2) 322:5,14;324:2;325:5; 314:14,17;316:16; mindfulness (1) mitigation (5) 46:19;197:11 333:12;334:21;335:1,4; 318:15;319:10;329:18; 297:2 27:12;101:14;116:2; monitoring (21) 339:2;343:18;345:14; 350:14;365:1 minimal (1) 150:10;182:14 47:16,21;48:19;49:1, 346:7;347:17;348:12; Mexico's (1) 277:5 mix (2) 8,22;51:15,19;71:10; 358:1;368:3,3,19;369:9, 72:14 minimize (1) 103:4;230:17 123:13;127:14;130:9; 9;372:13,15,15;375:18, mic] (1) 211:19 MME (1) 135:18;182:22;185:3; 18;376:5,6 272:10 minimized (1) 304:18 197:16;208:1;213:9; morning (42) Michele (1) 17:8 MMED (4) 214:19;216:16;301:4 5:3;8:12;30:20;31:17, 229:15 minimum (4) 201:15,18,18,20 monopolize (1) 22;35:17;43:15;45:1; microphone (3) 234:19;364:11,16; MoC (2) 252:10 53:2;118:17;121:2; 7:21;78:18;292:9 365:17 354:16;355:11 month (8) 149:22;164:7,10;166:2, microphones (1) Minneapolis (1) mocked (1) 15:12;48:21;51:12; 14;167:20;168:6,8; 76:18 146:6 253:3 82:6;158:4;184:9; 171:15;182:4,7;191:15; mid-level (2) Minnesota (2) modalities (15) 187:15;294:7 194:20;205:16;236:10; 72:2;173:3 48:15;74:18 17:10,16;18:2;84:7, monthly (8) 243:1,21;246:7;249:21; Midwest (1) minor (1) 13;95:15,18;101:15; 65:10;125:17;126:13; 250:3;253:22;263:1; 374:22 15:3 102:4;109:11;143:5; 127:2,5;157:21;158:19, 296:6;299:6,22;301:5; might (61) minute (3) 188:7;192:16;206:10; 20 302:2;305:5;331:19; 9:22;17:5;35:15; 66:7;100:1;136:21 333:7 months (11) 333:3;339:8 39:22;40:14;41:3;71:2; minutes (9) modality (4) 39:8;47:9;68:21;69:2, morphine (6) 81:2;89:3;118:14,15; 55:10;76:17;137:4; 17:5;19:22;84:18; 12;86:17;126:10; 73:2;80:18;112:4; 121:6;151:4;179:5; 156:20;177:1;227:1,12; 103:16 130:15;254:10;271:7; 118:2;130:22;147:7 181:3;201:21;222:5; 265:9;297:4 model (15) 282:4 morphine-equivalent (1) 240:15,17,19;245:8,9; MIPS (2) 95:7;104:5;186:4; Moore (13) 113:22 254:20;255:20;266:3; 355:15;356:18 251:3;257:14;262:5,5,8, 228:12,12;235:5,7; mortality (6) 267:2;278:5;287:17; miraculous (1) 13;320:7,8;324:21; 236:4;250:10;259:1,2; 92:19;104:6;105:12; 289:11;299:5,11,11,12, 367:1 354:14;356:2;375:7 269:19,20;276:17,18; 199:16;363:22;364:3 13;304:15;307:4,5; mirrors (1) modeling (1) 278:6 most (62) 311:2;312:1;314:14; 48:9 344:4 morbidity (1) 6:14;14:16;21:20; 316:20;317:10,21; misbehaving (1) models (8) 199:16 24:10;25:2;29:11,11; 325:1;327:19;331:18, 369:3 29:14;114:20;166:16; more (139) 49:17;58:3,20;59:1; 21;332:1;334:21,21; misconduct (1) 167:3,21;267:8;348:9,10 10:12,15;11:18;13:6; 72:15;89:8,16;95:10; 335:2,2,5;339:7,22; 143:13 moderator (1) 15:11;18:12;19:14; 97:1;103:14;105:15; 340:1;341:17;362:8; misinformation (1) 201:2 20:15;24:9;26:7;28:6; 111:17;112:21;123:5, 369:19;375:8;377:14 169:5 modern (2) 35:8,15;41:1;43:8;52:6; 10;125:14;127:22; mile (3) misread (1) 19:15;20:8 55:10;57:7;58:11;67:2, 128:7,8;129:14;139:17;

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153:15;162:17,22;172:5, multiple (8) 111:8;113:12;117:14, 118:10;133:17,19; 200:22 15,15;178:22;180:15; 40:22;92:19;165:14; 17;147:14;175:22; 135:1;136:11,17,18; neuropathic (1) 192:22;200:16;207:10; 216:14;272:3;286:7; 196:5;203:18;205:1; 140:18,19;147:10;150:9, 235:18 213:15;218:9;234:10; 322:11;345:21 219:20;229:4;269:11; 11;165:1;166:20; new (92) 238:5,22;240:13; multi-pronged (1) 276:19;279:13;280:20; 171:20;173:18;174:11; 28:10;48:15,16;58:16; 248:13;249:17;258:11, 182:20 283:1,4;285:22;300:12; 175:2,3,4,17,22;176:5; 61:7;62:21,22;63:11,16; 15,22;259:20,21;265:22, multi-specialty (1) 316:18;317:5;320:1,3; 177:6,9;182:10;184:19; 64:2,8,12,14,17;65:7,15, 22;310:5;320:8;339:3; 121:19 321:9;322:13;323:1,3; 185:11;186:20,22; 17;66:2,4;67:8,10;68:10, 362:12;364:22;365:1; multi-step (1) 324:18,21;325:20;362:2, 191:3;207:19;208:7; 14,22;69:4,6,17,20,21; 366:1;376:15 122:10 6;364:12 213:12;222:6;232:21; 70:9,10;72:7,14;73:10; mostly (1) musculoskeletal (1) nationally (4) 237:7;240:5,10;242:10, 74:2,3,17;75:5,17;76:12; 348:15 15:8 55:6;70:16;275:11; 10,17;244:2;246:12; 78:2;82:1;92:1;125:10; mother (1) must (18) 335:9 252:13,20;255:10; 131:18;140:12;150:7; 289:1 152:8;154:15,17; nation's (5) 257:11,19;261:6; 152:7,10;184:21; motions (1) 155:3;158:3;160:2,7; 53:20;54:6;56:15; 268:20;276:8;282:21; 188:18;194:20;199:7; 352:20 178:2;209:22;212:4,13; 204:12;210:14 284:3,18,20;285:13; 205:15,18;206:2; motivational (1) 215:7,12,22;216:22; nationwide (1) 294:20;295:7;298:12; 209:11;211:21;229:3; 297:2 217:2;219:10;225:1 73:16 305:2;306:22;308:17; 237:20;242:10,12; MOU (1) myself (3) nature (6) 309:19;310:21;311:2; 248:2;249:10,10,18; 73:14 73:17;254:10;299:16 94:11;102:20;249:1; 312:1,16;313:5;314:6; 253:7;254:5;261:3; move (13) 274:5;347:10;353:2 321:5;331:14;333:12,17, 262:5;263:3;288:13; 94:22;206:12;216:3; N naturopathic (1) 22,22;334:1;335:20; 290:18,18,18;300:7; 244:20;248:5;251:11; 264:4 338:22;339:12,14,16,19; 307:19;314:14,17; 253:17;265:5,8;267:10; nail (1) nausea (1) 343:18,19,22;351:18; 316:16;318:15;319:9; 310:18;324:4;364:14 241:19 16:6 352:2;354:7;357:5,9; 323:19;324:20;329:17; movement (2) naloxone (43) Navajo (1) 359:12;364:8;372:18, 348:8,9;350:14;358:4; 169:22;325:13 10:10;47:3;65:12; 65:17 21;375:14;376:5,17; 362:19;365:1;372:19 moving (9) 71:13,16;75:18,22;76:3, Navy (4) 377:8 newer (2) 20:11;55:1;139:7; 6,10;82:6;85:20;95:16; 75:12,13;365:3,5 needed (18) 92:2;155:19 255:15;265:15;269:17; 99:19;100:14;106:13; near (1) 20:17;27:6;35:2; newly (1) 306:6;322:20;324:1 107:14,18;112:16; 187:15 70:19,19;71:5;96:13; 162:21 MPH (1) 113:7;114:1,7,12; nearly (3) 122:8;124:10;188:3; news (2) 4:16 115:14;143:21;187:18; 117:4;121:8;317:19 198:20;200:7;214:13, 295:1;367:13 much (66) 193:1,5,14;194:3,4,6,9, Neat (1) 14;236:18;237:10; newspapers (1) 8:1;10:14;31:13;41:9; 11,18,19,22;195:7; 203:20 240:20;350:14 55:18 52:18;62:20;74:3;87:22; 197:2;304:17;326:22; neatly (1) needing (3) next (32) 93:3,10,12;98:13; 340:15;366:8 25:2 78:6;346:1;370:20 6:4,12;21:14;26:16; 109:21;110:1;111:4; name (15) Nebraska (1) needle (1) 27:17;44:9,16;45:3; 117:12;124:18;137:19; 5:7;31:17;78:20; 374:4 267:10 52:19;54:19;62:21; 147:3,4;149:6;166:1; 81:19;150:2;168:10; necessarily (15) needs (38) 68:21;69:2;93:16;110:2; 168:9;173:6;179:19; 171:3;173:8;176:8; 35:13;90:7;91:9,12; 29:2;50:19;53:20; 143:10;149:7;154:6; 183:12;189:7;192:16; 192:19;221:8;223:3; 141:10;177:5;255:17; 79:3;97:9;108:19; 155:16;156:20;157:10; 195:11;204:4;215:2; 228:18,21;229:15 268:20;313:4;318:13; 164:14;170:5;184:3; 159:15;167:12;169:2; 217:8,22;220:9;223:1; names (1) 325:4,6;347:1,3;368:12 199:13;202:12;206:5; 179:11;222:5;249:5; 226:14;237:10;240:4; 291:21 necessary (19) 208:6;210:1;222:18,19; 280:2;287:20;296:17; 241:17;245:19,20; name's (1) 29:11;83:5;99:1; 225:6,9;233:16;234:21; 318:19;374:15 263:21;264:5;270:9; 206:19 107:16;150:15;152:18; 236:3;239:8;242:3; NGA (9) 275:3;298:20;301:2; Narcan (1) 167:10;194:7;196:19; 244:9;247:12;253:12; 53:12;54:17;55:19; 303:7;311:5,13;317:16; 192:21 222:17;225:2;233:2; 255:13;263:14;268:3; 56:4,11,20;62:10;67:13; 329:10;332:16;335:21; narcotic (1) 242:21;243:20;244:12, 309:11;321:1;324:5; 319:21 339:2,19;349:5;354:3; 177:3 14,20;374:16;375:10 333:16;334:12;336:16; NGAs (1) 356:4,20;358:16;359:2, narrowly (1) necessity (2) 371:16;376:6,6 54:11 10;360:5;362:13;376:21 41:4 200:13;240:16 negate (1) NGA's (1) multicomponent (1) nasal (2) neck (1) 339:3 54:1 338:22 159:14;192:22 359:16 negative (1) nice (3) multidisciplinary (9) Nation (7) need (128) 157:22 144:10;287:18;363:2 122:19;123:6;124:2; 52:21;65:17;85:4; 12:18;16:20;17:3; neither (1) NIDA (4) 128:2;231:20;232:2; 97:12;122:1;195:2; 19:4,20;20:10,18;23:5; 225:11 6:7;282:9,14;285:8 233:6;280:1;281:20 283:12 24:7;27:20;28:18;29:9; network (2) NIDA's (1) multi-hour (1) national (43) 30:1,3,19;37:16;38:21; 73:20;74:9 26:9 131:11 25:17;26:11;48:20; 68:12,15,19;75:5;79:4; networks (1) NIH (1) multimodal (2) 52:19;53:4,19;56:20; 81:11,14;84:6;89:13; 98:9 26:8 214:8;233:6 67:12;78:21;86:14; 106:18;107:17;109:15; neurologic (1) nine (2)

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39:8;86:17 Norm (1) 156:13;158:11;165:8; 6:8;23:12;26:22;87:2; 29:4,4;97:15;101:4; Ninety-nine (2) 292:3 190:9;196:3,21;208:22; 90:1;94:3,19;117:14; 131:20;147:1;150:11; 70:3;71:18 normal (2) 216:8;219:4;234:6; 265:22;372:22 154:12;171:9,22; nobody (5) 161:1;304:2 238:1;245:9,10;247:9; occur (7) 173:18;175:12;294:5 78:13;107:7;135:8; normally (1) 251:13;253:17,18;256:6, 36:5;101:12;129:19, one (165) 251:12;368:11 102:7 15,20;264:3;270:1; 19;216:9;332:22;372:3 6:3,21;7:3;9:2;15:9; no-cost (1) Norman (17) 272:5;275:10;276:4; occurred (3) 22:21;23:10,22;24:1,2,2; 74:11 3:18;80:4;149:1; 278:18;283:19,21; 108:11;196:8;203:1 27:15;29:15;31:1;35:18; nod (1) 180:7;229:9,9;239:21, 285:3;292:20;307:12; occurring (3) 50:17;51:13;55:9;57:8; 346:15 22;246:4;261:14,15; 322:10;325:12;327:5,7; 41:18;138:3;312:9 58:3,6;61:1,13,22;64:12; nodded (2) 267:15,16;280:16,17; 343:20;344:18;357:9; occurs (3) 66:4;67:15;78:4,5;79:6, 346:13,14 292:4;353:21 361:14 86:9;160:22;161:1 10;83:16;84:17;87:1; nomination (1) North (10) numbers (18) odd (1) 92:2,7,10;98:14,14; 145:1 96:3;98:7,9;99:8; 19:8;23:9;40:1;66:11; 238:4 99:21;100:9;103:2; non- (5) 104:2;108:7;298:5; 76:13;80:12;85:9,14; off (20) 104:20;105:2,3;111:19; 38:10;79:18;90:12; 311:17;329:14,20 144:10;163:22;165:4; 7:4;8:13;11:22;138:6, 112:3;115:12;121:6; 132:14;192:14 northern (7) 190:10;191:11;203:1; 15;146:16,21;147:1,2; 126:6,8,10,18;134:7; non-addictive (2) 64:17;120:19;121:11, 212:2;283:18;350:10; 176:5;227:15;270:21, 136:15,16,21;137:12; 28:7;188:18 14;123:11;127:8;332:20 367:9 22;272:10;273:15; 139:2,2,6;142:2,10,20; non-cancer (1) note (2) numerous (5) 274:8;287:20;337:16; 145:3,9;146:21;147:12; 214:4 153:8;197:8 32:16;36:13;37:15; 359:15;360:15 149:10;154:5;155:8; non-drug (1) noted (1) 305:21;359:14 offend (1) 156:6;166:6,22;167:4, 142:13 196:7 nurse (18) 190:10 10;171:14,15;172:5; none (2) notes (3) 60:20;72:17;180:10; offer (14) 181:9;182:7,10,17; 16:4;280:6 37:10;292:6;359:19 199:6;229:10,12; 75:10,10;179:5; 184:21;188:16;190:8; non-education (1) notice (1) 234:22;240:1,2,8; 185:18;187:13;216:3; 191:22;192:13;194:4; 373:13 102:12 257:15;280:17,19,22; 276:3;281:3;282:6,11; 198:4;202:6;207:12; nonetheless (1) notified (1) 282:19;312:13;371:17; 285:20;286:17;293:18; 212:12;222:8,9;234:1; 88:2 32:21 376:20 365:11 237:19;238:1,18;239:8, non-medical (3) notify (1) nurses (11) offered (7) 16;241:8,12;242:22; 9:18;10:5;65:19 154:11 61:21;121:15;171:4; 38:19;75:4,5;187:7; 246:4;252:7;254:2; non-opiate (2) noting (1) 181:7,10;186:6;189:18; 225:12;237:12;281:2 257:13;258:14;259:4,6, 315:16;365:14 141:8 239:22;331:13;360:5; offering (3) 21;260:6;261:3,9;269:4; non-opioid (6) not's (1) 368:20 9:13;85:19;90:22 273:12,21;274:10; 70:17;142:2;146:8; 308:19 nursing (10) offerings (1) 279:1;280:3;283:5,8,11, 211:8;225:8;326:17 novel (1) 59:15;69:7;89:4; 276:5 16;284:15,19;287:2; non-opioid/non-pain (1) 200:10 91:14;188:5;264:2; Office (13) 289:16;295:13,22; 142:6 NP (1) 301:1,19;318:22;323:2 31:18;46:14;54:5; 298:4;299:12,12,13; non-optimal (1) 281:22 65:9;73:22;77:19;82:20; 306:14;307:18;309:16; 265:3 NPAs (1) O 93:19;107:4;168:13; 310:1;311:1;320:8,22, non-pharmacologic (8) 284:8 204:21;207:13;300:3 22;322:21;327:19,21; 141:14;142:18;211:7; NPs (6) OAO (1) officer (2) 328:1;333:6,10,10; 224:3,10,14;226:6;295:6 88:10;219:21;262:9,9; 286:12 44:18;192:20 336:20;342:8;343:7; non-pharmacological (1) 280:21;281:6 objectives (1) offices (2) 345:3,3;350:4,4;360:2; 206:9 NSAID (1) 242:11 91:16;121:17 361:22;362:1;370:16; non-pharmacologically (1) 17:20 obligation (1) official (1) 371:3,14;373:1;374:12 365:13 NSAIDs (3) 38:7 230:1 one- (1) non-pharmacotherapy/ (1) 17:21;187:3;188:15 obliged (1) officially (1) 7:4 315:15 nuances (1) 377:13 160:16 one-minute (1) non-physician (1) 320:17 observations (1) offset (1) 227:20 201:1 nudge (1) 359:21 245:9 one-on-one (4) non-prescriber (1) 89:16 obstetricians (1) Often (5) 97:3;102:16;103:15; 371:18 number (84) 92:15 19:8;153:15;200:16; 114:18 non-prescribers (1) 8:21;9:15;11:20;17:6; obtain (7) 236:15;293:20 one-page (1) 92:3 22:22;23:15;35:12;39:5, 16:17;59:21;158:5,11; oftentimes (3) 37:6 non-profit (1) 7,14;40:18;41:1;43:8; 160:19;161:22;259:22 91:11;237:3,6 ones (12) 94:17 46:6,8,13;48:5;51:2; obtained (1) Oklahoma (2) 35:14;125:15;126:7,9; non-restrictive (5) 55:5;56:1,6;58:18;60:1; 33:4 74:18;352:1 133:4;234:12;261:10; 36:1,7;153:8;154:1,5 63:21;64:20;65:2,3; obtaining (2) older (1) 313:16;330:10;353:19; non-steroidal (1) 66:15,22;72:10;83:18; 14:1;105:21 196:10 357:10;360:5 142:10 88:7;98:15,16,16;117:6; obvious (3) oldest (1) one's (4) nor (1) 118:20;119:5;125:19,19, 247:2;288:11;303:20 53:20 327:22,22;328:1,1 345:18 20;132:2,6,21;134:18; obviously (10) once (13) One-size-fits-all (1)

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210:2 64:17;65:20;137:16 366:13 oppose (1) 215:14 one-third (1) opinion (4) opioid-naïve (1) 208:13 organized (5) 131:4 122:14;178:8;327:11; 185:1 opposed (2) 276:19;352:6,7,7,14 ongoing (10) 360:1 opioid-related (7) 303:3;347:21 original (3) 13:17;123:13;126:19; opinions (2) 13:15;55:9;58:10; opposes (1) 95:12;124:15;131:17 127:13;135:18;207:20; 183:20;190:1 187:16;196:8,21;212:18 209:15 originally (1) 241:21;270:11;296:5; Opioid (249) opioids (181) opt (14) 263:2 306:3 1:5;10:13;11:2;13:7; 5:10,15;8:19;9:9,18; 212:7,11;231:20; orphan (1) online (14) 15:7,9,16;16:1;17:20; 10:11,22;11:2,9,20;12:2; 232:5,6,7;238:19; 156:14 68:12;87:9;114:22; 18:21;24:11;25:6;32:1, 13:7,13,21;14:21;15:2,5, 258:15,19,22;264:21; orthopedic (1) 125:6,9,12;128:9; 10;33:1,18;34:5;36:12; 12,13,15;16:17;17:7; 310:11,11;345:13 129:7 131:18;140:9,21; 38:16;39:10;40:7;42:7, 18:5,13,14,16,19;19:7, opted (1) Osteopathic (11) 189:16;198:18;201:3; 13;43:2,6,12,22;44:2,5, 12,14;20:10;21:6,16; 71:19 204:8,10,10;205:4; 354:19 10;46:14;47:10;53:9,13, 22:18;23:2;25:22;26:2; optimal (3) 206:10;228:6,7;233:11; only (56) 17;54:11;56:7,11,14; 27:3,5,13;28:3,15,22; 210:3;315:18;316:11 279:4;307:10,14 16:4,4;33:16;59:20; 57:6,10;58:4,16,22;61:9, 30:7,16;31:5;55:8; opt-in (2) others (19) 70:9;82:2;96:8,19; 11,16;62:11,13;63:3,12; 56:15;57:9,12;61:13,16, 193:21;194:2 19:3;61:11;103:16; 97:17;98:14,14,19; 64:6,9,13;67:22;68:17; 20;62:1;67:1,3,5;83:1; opting (7) 119:13;199:10;201:1; 105:5,14;106:8;107:3; 70:20;71:3;79:9,19; 86:15;87:19;92:5,12; 96:16;234:2;245:2,6; 224:1;226:4;253:19; 116:2;126:15;140:11; 80:12;85:2,5;92:17; 101:15;102:4;105:19; 258:17;264:18;265:2 257:4;259:15;265:13; 142:10;148:2;153:3,4, 94:18;99:13;101:21; 112:10;113:19,21; option (5) 283:2;299:16;315:6,8; 22;154:18;175:6;178:3, 106:5;111:16,19;112:1, 114:21;115:7,22;116:3, 191:12;218:19;224:6, 324:15;325:5;355:14 9;189:21;194:4;198:20; 3,19;113:1,2,9,12,20; 4,10,21,22;117:1,2,10; 16;234:8 otherwise (4) 219:5;222:9;225:12; 114:13;115:5,14,18; 118:2,9,18,19,22;119:4, Options (9) 28:11;322:5;324:6; 232:4;234:22;235:17; 116:11,16,19;117:5,7,9, 9,17,20,20;120:20; 3:12;10:12;93:21; 339:11 247:18;264:21;266:4; 12,19,22;118:8,15; 123:14;127:9;128:13, 187:3;211:7;224:22; ought (1) 280:20;283:12;286:2; 119:7,10;120:3,8; 14;130:7,11,20;131:5,8; 225:9;226:7;376:15 320:19 291:15;294:8;295:15; 121:12;126:21,22; 132:19;134:5,20;138:1, optometry (1) ours (1) 321:13;322:16;327:8; 127:2;130:2,11;131:3; 13,14;145:7;146:1,8,12, 264:4 325:14 329:21;337:1,21; 137:14,15;140:9;145:2; 15;164:18;166:13,17; opt-out (3) ourselves (3) 338:11;357:7;368:21; 150:21;151:2,11;154:4; 175:12,13;183:17; 34:6;305:22;306:1 65:6;226:21;231:9 374:12 159:9;161:16;162:13; 184:14,22;185:4,8; orange (1) out (88) onus (1) 163:5,11,14,19;164:4,5; 186:12;187:1,2,9; 55:3 13:21;14:5,13;26:10, 253:10 165:11,15;168:19; 188:16;193:7,9,10; orchestrate (1) 10;27:8;30:20;31:7; Open (12) 169:8;176:3;180:12; 194:12,13;197:8; 215:10 35:13,19;37:13;40:4; 3:17;4:3;7:7,12; 184:2,15,17,21;185:5, 202:19;204:20;205:20; order (24) 45:17;48:15;57:22; 143:19;144:4;147:16; 21;186:9,13,14;187:5, 206:14;208:10,10,15,18; 38:18;106:17;109:15; 77:18;83:20;87:15;95:1; 179:18;180:4,6;288:19; 11,15,20;193:6,8,14; 211:8,17;212:17; 113:11;122:9;123:16; 96:16;101:4;107:16; 333:12 194:5;195:8;196:3,13, 213:12;214:12;215:8; 134:7,9,12;152:18; 115:11;118:12;125:3; opened (1) 22;197:9;198:8,9,13; 220:18;222:7;223:10, 153:14;157:12;158:2; 133:5;135:12;138:9; 43:15 199:4,9,15,22;200:4,12; 21;224:8,13,18;225:15; 160:1;161:8;174:2; 156:9;169:5;174:7,8; opening (3) 201:10,17,20;202:8,17; 226:1;231:22;232:5; 179:1;210:13;218:17; 175:3;177:1;191:7; 8:8,10;33:6 203:17,22;204:13;205:3, 234:8;235:10,21; 237:7;291:7;310:18; 200:16;212:7;221:14; operate (2) 5,10,12,18;208:1,5; 236:11;237:21;238:21; 364:14;365:8 231:20;232:6,6,7;234:2; 151:3;162:15 209:2,3,6,7,11,14;211:1, 239:9;244:10;254:14; organization (17) 238:19;239:1;245:2,6; operating (2) 3,15;212:7,9,14;213:5, 255:21;271:6;273:4; 53:20;54:4;82:3;87:7; 249:12;250:18;256:17; 161:3;192:20 11;214:9,18,22;215:2, 275:12;286:3;295:15,18, 132:4;133:8,11;137:10; 257:12,19;258:15,17,19; operation (1) 15;216:5,8,20;217:3,20; 22;302:17;303:13; 147:18;195:14;202:5; 264:18,21;265:2; 165:18 218:2,7,14,16;219:5,13; 304:9;305:7;306:16; 268:3;274:2;276:19; 267:21;274:7,12; operational (1) 220:6;221:4;222:1; 328:9;365:16;371:10 280:20;296:9;340:17 275:16;282:10;294:8; 49:1 225:20;229:21;231:4; opportunities (7) organizational (2) 306:22;307:8;308:9; operationalized (1) 236:17;248:11;251:3; 30:4;87:17;126:19; 207:4;276:16 310:11;311:4;312:11; 150:21 254:6;258:17;262:22; 132:20;191:17;196:20; organizations (30) 318:11;320:7,13;327:3; operations (4) 263:4;273:17;279:5; 205:9 5:22;37:15;76:21; 335:21,22;336:6;338:1; 154:7;156:21;177:20; 281:10,14;282:15,22; opportunity (23) 97:13;168:16,17,17; 341:18;345:13;347:15; 229:7 283:5,6;284:7,10;285:3; 10:15;94:10;110:10; 170:20;174:13,14,14; 357:11;361:15;364:13; opiate (16) 286:10;290:15;300:9; 124:12;147:22;148:16; 180:9;189:9;191:9; 367:1;368:1;369:2; 64:16,22;67:16;68:6; 302:4;306:3;307:12; 179:9;189:7;195:12; 198:1;252:13;253:18; 374:6 69:12;70:15;71:5;72:10; 310:3,19;313:16; 207:2;210:15;213:18; 256:21;257:3;265:11, outcome (11) 73:1;75:9;226:12; 326:18;329:15;330:15, 217:13;220:4,11;223:6; 17;276:2,3,20,21,22; 51:21;84:14,17; 272:22;314:19;315:15; 17;332:18;337:14; 226:9;251:10;254:3; 277:6;296:18;311:21; 111:14;164:12;243:11, 319:4;340:14 340:8;343:13;349:21; 269:14;276:15;292:15; 312:10 12,13;248:16;293:12; opiates (3) 351:3;357:19;365:15; 293:18 organize (1) 356:5

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Outcomes (19) 66:18;67:1,7,16;68:7; paid (6) 314:18;315:4,5,7,7,8; participate (8) 3:3;37:1;39:19;41:19; 70:15;75:19;76:3,7; 95:16;108:4;109:15; 317:22;319:4;335:22; 27:1;52:10;70:3; 46:11;63:2;79:21;83:17, 85:5,11,12;94:20; 190:7;233:19;298:2 337:14;340:8,12;347:4; 164:22;165:9;179:8; 22;120:11;139:11; 100:10;105:16;106:19; Pain (326) 349:21;353:4;359:16; 352:14;354:18 181:1,18;183:7;184:6, 107:19;112:16;113:6; 1:5;9:9,11;11:9,9; 361:10,16;362:21;365:3, participated (2) 10;293:3;343:19;368:14 114:3;120:11;138:19, 12:11,12,17,18,20;13:2, 12,13,14,16;366:10,13, 70:4;377:16 outliers (1) 22;193:8;196:20;197:4, 3;15:3,8;16:13,20,22; 20;371:9 participates (1) 135:9 16,20;218:2;238:3; 17:1,1,3,13,19;18:1,12, painful (1) 282:13 outline (4) 245:9;248:12;304:20 14,16;19:10,10,13,16,18, 13:1 participating (8) 30:9;43:18;154:6; overdosed (1) 20;20:5,7,9,10,20;21:7; palatable (1) 8:2;53:6;156:2,8,12; 197:2 32:19 24:15,21;25:13,17;26:8, 345:14 190:17;334:12;354:15 outlined (3) overdose-reversing (1) 11;28:10,21;30:16;37:3; palliative (1) participation (5) 62:4;165:17;319:17 24:16 42:15,17;43:11,19,20; 228:9 40:16;131:16;155:17; outpatient (6) overdoses (7) 46:2;47:2;48:13;50:10; Panel (31) 162:16;350:13 11:19;121:17;128:1; 79:10;100:8;130:5; 58:17;59:21;60:10,16; 4:12,15;22:13;32:4; particular (15) 159:17;163:9;252:6 139:13;187:17;196:22; 62:1,12;63:1,3,12;64:1, 110:4,14;226:20;227:9; 22:2;29:7;30:13; outreach (1) 339:16 4,6,9;65:8;67:21;68:1,7, 254:1;266:9;292:6; 81:13;84:9;150:19; 114:16 overdosing (1) 8;69:11,16;70:10,15; 296:17;298:19,19;299:2, 166:22;178:17;263:14; outright (3) 10:9 71:4,7;73:18;75:6,8,13, 8,16,22;303:5;328:3; 294:1,2;351:18;362:9; 172:2;174:3;176:9 overly (1) 14;78:12,22;79:4,8,18, 337:2;338:19;346:9; 370:6;371:10 outside (8) 34:11 20;82:16,17,19;83:4,6; 347:7;357:2;363:12,16; particularly (8) 7:9;28:13;29:21; overprescribing (1) 87:18;92:14,16;94:21, 366:12;369:18;370:8; 5:19;40:17;41:13,19; 158:10;219:18;266:7; 213:11 22;95:14;97:7,20;98:6, 371:7 147:20;197:15;277:14; 291:9;329:2 overreach (1) 19,19;99:1,6;101:16; panelists (1) 295:4 outstanding (1) 221:14 102:2;105:18;106:18; 28:19 partner (8) 280:10 oversee (1) 109:11,18;110:18,20,21, panels (5) 28:13;87:9;204:19; outweigh (2) 207:3 22;111:2,3,7,8,10,13,17; 22:11,12;370:3,4; 229:13;278:17;285:22; 33:2;35:2 Oversight (2) 112:7,9,10,12,20;115:4, 377:17 353:9,11 over (87) 110:17;270:17 18;116:1,6;118:15; paper (2) partnered (2) 7:1;8:6;12:9;13:8,13; overview (6) 120:8,10;122:22;127:10, 209:7,10 59:11;279:2 18:6;23:13;31:1;35:4; 44:13;53:13;151:6; 12;136:4;142:7,18; papers (1) partners (4) 46:17;47:8;54:18;55:20; 157:10;159:15;365:8 143:13,15,18;144:1,7, 340:10 180:13;263:12; 58:18;60:2;66:22;69:19; overwhelmingly (1) 12;145:16,17;146:7; paradigm (1) 286:11;293:6 70:1,12;74:11;80:3; 214:9 147:15,19;148:2;159:8, 257:11 partnership (3) 81:18;82:14;84:19; own (31) 10;164:14,17;175:15; parallel (1) 54:11,16;282:8 85:17;86:17;87:8;94:12; 17:16;22:8;27:3;96:6, 177:18,22;182:14; 324:14 partnerships (4) 99:10;104:20;106:9; 19;98:2,5;99:8;124:1,13, 183:18;184:3,4;185:18; Paraphernalia (1) 29:19,20,21;269:12 117:7,22;118:1;119:9, 13;126:4,22;133:5; 188:1,4,11,19;192:12; 320:8 parts (6) 14;121:14,16,22;122:2; 135:9;146:18;183:20; 198:9,14;199:7;200:11, parenteral (3) 54:5;124:10;187:1; 127:8;130:14,21; 238:11;242:8;244:2; 14;202:22;206:9,15; 128:13;131:4,7 203:17;327:2;332:20 131:10;137:5;141:3; 271:16;285:19;286:17; 207:21;209:5,9,11,13; part (60) PAs (15) 149:4;177:18;189:9; 320:5;321:20;324:20; 211:4,6,13,18;212:13, 6:3;9:7;26:18,22;31:5; 68:20,22;72:17;88:10; 198:4,17;201:4;202:12; 338:20;342:18;346:2; 19;213:5,14;214:4,6,13, 49:17;50:4;65:16;68:2; 137:9,10;262:5,9,9; 204:14;211:10,11; 369:12;374:6 17;215:9,14;216:12,21; 69:16;71:12;77:16;82:9, 283:7,13;284:16,21; 212:16;215:3;216:6; 217:7,17;218:1,14; 10;102:8;106:8,9; 285:3;312:13 221:3,3;225:15;229:16; P 219:4,6,13,20,22;220:2; 111:14;112:14;124:7; pass (4) 248:6,7;278:18;284:2,2, 221:11;222:11,14,17; 133:6;136:20;142:8; 48:2;51:16;67:17; 3;285:17;286:19;289:1, P450 (1) 223:11,13,19;224:3,9, 153:12;166:14;168:22; 355:3 18;290:11;304:18; 185:5 11,13;225:3,5,8,15,18, 169:2;182:3;203:4; passed (11) 326:1,1;332:2,2;340:7; PA (3) 22;226:5;228:3,4,9,15; 222:22;224:18;225:18; 48:14,17;58:12;60:9; 350:19;351:2,10;355:1; 59:15;199:6;242:9 230:6;231:9,10,12,12, 241:14;244:18,22;250:7, 75:17,20;82:5;95:12; 356:21;365:20;370:19 pace (1) 13,13,15,21;232:3,10,18, 15;258:10,11;284:5; 169:16;285:1;301:12 overall (8) 56:6 20;233:1,7,14,15; 285:8;289:6,13;299:4; Passik (6) 9:8;22:20;119:19; package (3) 234:13;235:3,17,18,18, 302:19;303:14,21; 4:8;213:17,18,19; 130:8;169:8;175:19; 35:6;152:5;339:7 21;239:4,10;240:9,11; 310:14,21;312:1;314:7, 293:9,9 268:3;351:6 packed (1) 244:10;245:7,11;254:5, 8,10;316:18;323:21; passing (1) over-and-over (1) 280:13 12;255:1,13,18;269:3; 325:7;334:19;351:5; 58:19 177:14 packet (2) 273:1,7;275:22;276:6,9; 354:16;365:5 passively (1) overcome (2) 337:14,15 279:21;280:6,11,15; participant (1) 160:10 10:4;184:4 PAGE (3) 281:8,10;286:3,4;290:3, 307:15 past (26) overdose (42) 3:2;4:2;283:6 5,15;295:7;300:8,9; participants (8) 5:11;47:8,11;64:19; 13:16;23:21;32:15; pages (1) 301:15;302:3,18;303:6, 40:5,5,12,15;41:4; 86:17;126:5,10;134:6, 44:2;55:5,7,9,12;64:22; 292:6 8;304:10;306:4,16; 202:2;288:20;352:17 11;145:10;163:12;

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190:8;191:7;194:3; 10;131:1,1,7;136:1; 351:21 130:22,22;131:1; 269:4;291:20;294:5; 200:22;204:14;222:11, 139:4,16;142:12; PDMPs (2) 187:15;285:20;364:4 299:17;311:2;324:3; 14;228:3;281:15;301:8; 144:14;145:17,21;146:7, 117:4;216:17 perceived (1) 326:21;332:7 309:9;314:19;320:6; 19;147:6;151:1;153:13; peaked (1) 181:21 personal (7) 340:7;350:2 156:2,10;157:8,14,17; 111:22 percent (62) 94:14;95:21;140:5,11; Path (2) 158:15;159:8,11;160:8, pediatric (3) 14:22;15:4,8,11; 146:18;215:17;327:11 1:7;313:18 11;161:10;162:21; 71:6;285:8;365:11 39:10;49:3;58:10;65:3; personalized (2) pathologist (2) 163:4,18;164:1,13; peer (5) 70:3;71:18;85:10; 206:6;210:1 78:7,12 176:14,15;184:3,8,13, 148:4,10,11,13,14 103:14;105:11,11; personally (1) paths (1) 20;185:3;187:2,10; peer-pressure (1) 111:20;112:8,9,11; 78:5 313:18 190:21;197:13;201:1,5, 274:21 115:7,8;116:16;117:21, personnel (1) pathway (2) 16,19;202:15;206:2; peers (2) 22;118:3;119:10;130:1, 235:2 239:6,19 207:9;210:8;212:9; 148:16;322:9 10,12,14,16;131:6,7,8, person's (1) pathways (2) 213:8,11;218:1;219:5; peer-to-peer (1) 10,16;181:21;184:7,11, 178:13 56:16;238:11 224:2;225:9,12,12; 201:3 14,16,19;189:15;195:21; Perspective (15) patient (106) 226:5,8;231:15;239:3, penalize (1) 196:7,10;217:20; 3:15;48:20;162:16; 12:21;17:2;19:9,13; 10;240:10;241:12; 135:5 235:19;244:4;250:11; 168:19;173:14;235:6; 25:8;33:13;34:8,10,12; 242:1;243:16;245:6; Pennsylvania (2) 266:16,20;274:19; 236:8;246:13;249:2; 35:6;37:8;39:17,22; 257:11;259:10;275:5; 235:9,11 314:21;321:22;322:13, 262:4;275:20;284:15; 51:21;71:2;79:20,22; 284:6,9;285:14;295:18; Penny (1) 15;327:4,8;350:13; 309:6;364:9;368:18 83:22;84:3,4,4,6,13,17; 297:13;302:3;306:2; 82:15 351:11;354:22;355:4 perspectives (1) 98:2;99:16,18;102:2,22; 309:20;313:20;315:22; people (158) percentage (7) 133:13 103:3,6,22;106:10; 327:7;360:10,10;365:6 7:3,22;10:13;12:2,18, 48:5;119:8,19;172:19; persuaded (1) 107:4,8,16;109:9; patient's (5) 20,22;13:6;14:10,22; 173:6;196:9;288:3 302:22 111:11;113:11;114:2,5; 79:8;132:16;197:12; 15:1,4,13,19,19,21;16:8, Percocet (1) pertaining (2) 123:4;134:4,10;135:17; 206:9;224:6 15,16,19;17:18;25:9; 235:20 71:8;365:9 144:2;146:21;147:1,9; patients' (2) 29:21;55:8,10;76:17,19; perfect (3) pessimistic (1) 148:15;152:4;153:20, 209:8,15 77:5;82:21;85:14,16; 71:10;293:3;377:12 272:1 20;154:22;155:12; Patrice (2) 89:16;93:15;94:22; perfectly (1) Peter (7) 156:15;157:16;158:3; 141:4;229:19 109:18;118:21;133:2; 280:8 4:16;300:3;315:2; 160:3,5,10,14;162:6,7,9, patterns (3) 135:6;147:20;148:1,6, perform (1) 332:9;366:7;370:16; 11;163:17;175:15; 12:7;39:19;357:10 17;166:12,22;170:12,13; 214:16 371:6 181:17;185:1;187:5,6; paucity (1) 172:10;175:4,4,5,7; performance (4) petitioned (1) 191:1;193:17;201:14; 83:15 176:9,18;180:19;182:2; 39:3;140:16;182:17; 194:10 202:4,10;203:7;206:5; Paul (1) 183:5;190:11,12; 210:6 Pfizer (1) 210:9;212:21;213:6; 228:12 191:11;193:8;194:1; performed (3) 280:5 223:20;225:6;233:8,12; Pause (1) 201:9,20;203:12;217:7; 69:19;215:3;247:5 Pharma (2) 236:17;237:7;240:3; 226:19 231:19;232:6,11;238:5; performing (2) 96:4;192:21 243:8;244:9;259:8; pay (2) 240:13;241:9;244:19; 35:10;215:4 pharmaceutical (6) 267:11;274:17;301:21; 215:22;275:3 245:2,4,6,10;247:9; perhaps (7) 110:13;114:18,20; 304:4,5,6,6,12;310:20; payer (3) 248:5;250:4;255:1; 45:21;140:5;243:13; 165:20;169:20;209:16 317:10;355:16;358:9; 268:8;294:11,19 256:6;258:15,17,19,22; 249:1;272:3;331:12; Pharmaceuticals (1) 360:6;368:14 payers (12) 259:21;260:14,17; 349:13 213:21 patient-clinician (1) 215:13,22;217:2; 261:1;264:18;266:1; period (5) pharmacies (24) 124:20 233:20;267:6,12,20; 267:21;269:6;271:7,8, 104:20;129:12;130:5; 151:1;152:18;153:13; patient-provider (4) 269:13;294:14,20; 12;272:3,9;273:1,3; 212:3;219:11 154:15,19,20;156:6,6, 160:4,16;161:10; 295:3;348:6 277:15,16,19;278:6; periodic (1) 12;158:5,11;160:6,9,11, 162:10 payer's (1) 280:15;290:8,9;291:2,8; 150:12 19;161:3,21;162:20; patients (146) 293:10 292:8;294:3,12;295:14; peri-op (1) 163:2,10;164:1;171:2; 11:8;12:13;14:6;16:2; paying (1) 296:7;305:3,10,14; 129:12 172:13;205:2 19:3;20:1,19;21:8; 274:14 306:6;309:12;320:10, perioperative (1) pharmacist (6) 28:14;32:12;37:6,7,10, payment (2) 18;322:3;325:12; 129:15 103:3;107:11;127:11; 11;42:17;46:1,11;50:7, 348:9,10 327:10;328:18;329:1; Permanente (4) 155:9;161:22;228:18 20;58:17;61:20;71:17; PCCSMAT (1) 331:17;333:22;334:4; 3:8;120:19;121:11,18 pharmacists (23) 72:1;75:2;76:1;78:8; 282:18 337:2,11;339:3;348:2,4; persecution (1) 61:21;69:5;72:3; 79:17;90:16;92:4,14,16; PCSSMAT (1) 350:20;352:14;353:3; 203:6 114:19;127:10;154:15; 97:19;102:15;103:12; 275:9 357:6,9,15;358:3,6; persistent (3) 157:8;158:1,3;162:5; 111:16,20;113:6,18,20; PCSSO (2) 360:9;361:1,6,7;364:8; 15:9,14;159:10 182:13;183:1;228:20; 114:8;116:22,22;117:2, 275:9,13 367:10;368:15;369:5; person (21) 236:10,11,19;237:3; 2,7;118:8,14,22;119:12, PDMP (11) 372:9;373:1,4,20;375:6, 55:9;66:20;83:5; 275:20,22;276:8,12; 13,19;120:4;122:7; 46:16,22;52:1;60:17; 16;377:2,2 95:13;98:19;124:17; 360:8;368:20 123:14;124:22;126:4; 65:13;71:11;76:11; per (10) 138:4,9;140:22;216:20; pharmacists' (1) 127:11;129:20;130:9, 138:7;334:5;339:4; 75:11;85:10;100:8,11; 232:19;242:22;260:5; 236:8

Min-U-Script® A Matter of Record (32) Path - pharmacists' (301) 890-4188 FDA - Training Health Care Providers on Pain Management and Safe Use of Opioid Analgesics May 9, 2017 pharmacologic (1) 133:6,8,16,16;134:15, plan (22) 361:13 post-licensure (2) 192:15 18;135:6;136:6,12; 8:20;9:7;27:3,8,19; poison (1) 319:4;340:22 pharmacologist (1) 143:20;145:5,16; 31:6,9;34:16;35:7; 196:6 post-op (3) 228:14 172:13;181:13;184:12; 43:20;107:19;121:20; policies (8) 18:18,18;129:16 pharmacology (2) 185:19;203:19;204:10; 151:18;152:5;153:4,4, 28:5;45:22;95:9; post-surgery (2) 279:8;280:7 205:17,19,21;206:22; 10;206:6;214:17;227:6; 104:13;105:18;208:13; 14:5,21 pharmacotherapies (1) 207:6,10,12;208:14,16; 268:2;274:12 226:11;235:15 post-training (1) 142:2 209:21;210:3;218:13; planning (2) policy (16) 211:12 pharmacotherapy (2) 219:1,4,12;221:16; 6:19;52:12 47:14;52:21;53:3; posture (1) 315:16;365:14 222:4;234:22;243:7; plans (6) 55:22;57:13;61:1;84:2; 223:15 pharmacy (31) 256:10;262:8;286:1,9, 32:17;56:2;161:4; 91:19;168:4,11;195:3; Potee (1) 6:2;69:4;72:8,21; 16,20,22;293:13;294:15; 215:19;216:1;327:16 204:7;213:20;270:14; 204:1 74:15;98:15;101:3,4; 295:17,20;304:10; Plausible (1) 281:12;285:20 potencies (1) 110:5,14;123:2;136:14, 305:15;306:16;308:9; 203:20 politely (1) 184:16 15;154:17;155:2,3,11, 318:8;321:2;322:1,10, play (6) 227:15 potential (19) 21;156:6;158:8;177:12; 15;354:15;358:16 218:3;223:12;249:18; political (1) 12:10;17:21;86:1; 180:9;188:5;246:13,13; physicians' (1) 267:7;367:7;371:18 309:1 150:22;151:11;157:18; 264:4;279:13;300:22; 209:18 playing (1) politically (1) 158:18;162:12;163:17; 301:19;318:21;323:3 physician-specific (2) 124:21 254:21 167:13;168:1;212:5; PharmD (1) 134:17;135:3 plays (1) pools (1) 213:10;222:10;233:3,8; 3:14 pick (1) 207:8 186:3 299:10;346:5;356:9 PharmDs (1) 361:17 please (9) poorly (1) potentially (5) 189:18 picture (3) 7:3,21;78:18;87:5; 201:10 28:7;163:7;259:9; PhD (1) 53:21;130:8;313:6 148:8;188:21;200:15; populated (1) 274:3;345:2 4:8 piece (6) 324:13;371:2 63:19 pour (1) Philadelphia (1) 37:22;60:22;248:13; pleased (1) population (17) 343:22 228:7 253:16;275:4;309:16 217:19 13:13,14;14:16;41:15; poverty (1) phone (7) pill (4) pleasure (1) 63:18;65:19;66:9;72:15; 328:11 98:16;161:7;177:10; 13:20;97:22;197:18; 45:1 112:12;172:19,20; power (3) 246:17;289:1;293:14,21 303:22 plenty (1) 201:14;234:9,11;243:8; 178:9,10;268:4 phones (1) pills (2) 348:4 316:2;328:14 powerful (1) 7:4 16:5;327:5 plunged (1) populations (7) 265:22 physical (20) pilot (4) 202:20 49:10;50:19;93:4; PPA (1) 17:12;120:18;121:3; 98:7;148:6;198:22; plus (2) 156:16;309:12,18; 153:21 142:13;143:4;146:11; 286:6 113:20;274:15 317:10 PPCSO (1) 147:4;187:4;223:5,10, pilots (1) pm (4) portion (2) 282:18 12;224:15,21;225:11,17, 286:5 1:11;180:2;298:22; 124:19;268:12 practical (1) 21;235:1;257:15;279:9; pipeline (1) 377:21 pose (1) 341:20 302:7 305:3 PMP (1) 331:5 practice (82) physically (1) Pittsburgh (2) 359:4 position (2) 24:14,21;25:13;50:12; 175:10 228:16;280:2 podiatrists (1) 209:6,10 84:11;96:14;97:16; physician (35) place (37) 129:7 positive (8) 107:3,6;108:14;109:4; 78:11;92:22;121:4; 5:13,14;8:16;11:4; podium (2) 41:11;51:21;104:21; 115:16,17;116:5; 137:7;143:12;145:4,10; 21:5;24:22;57:3;76:22; 7:1;8:5 164:12;214:10;225:17; 124:21;127:21;135:8; 147:6;180:10;181:14; 79:12;105:21;138:6; point (45) 259:6;369:14 140:12,15;170:11,14,17; 206:20;207:13;208:8; 156:22;164:21;167:7, 12:4;26:4;27:11; positively (2) 171:12,22;173:20; 210:7;212:12;217:17; 10;168:1;171:5;197:11; 35:13,19;40:4;83:14; 88:22;102:14 177:15;181:18;182:13; 228:6;229:1,17;233:11; 251:5;257:9;259:21; 87:1;88:8;101:6;129:19; possibility (2) 183:11;184:7;195:19; 234:22;239:15;256:7,7, 260:4;262:8;267:14; 156:9;179:7,18;216:21; 320:9;345:1 197:20;203:4;215:10; 8;257:15;279:10; 270:15;316:21;320:18; 220:12;221:10;235:9, possible (21) 236:12,15;240:1; 336:12;354:18;357:1; 335:10;343:13;344:19; 13;236:9;243:6;248:21; 23:7;26:13,21;27:19, 241:22;243:9;244:2; 359:1;364:6;371:5; 345:3;348:17;359:9; 250:18;252:11,11; 22;28:16;29:3;54:13; 251:21;255:6;256:8; 376:12,19 360:15;372:10,12,17 258:5;259:20;265:1; 83:7;86:20;88:11; 260:20;262:16;263:19; physician-assistant (1) placed (4) 273:12,14;283:18; 151:11;166:21;167:3, 267:10;277:13;293:2, 301:20 71:5;253:10;283:11, 287:11;294:19,19; 21;245:17;258:21; 13;294:4,16;296:20; physician-prescribed (1) 16 298:3;312:6;316:14; 264:20;345:22;359:3; 297:6,8,12,15;298:8; 209:16 placement (1) 321:22;337:19;355:10; 373:8 304:5,13;305:19;308:2, physicians (81) 256:3 360:4;361:4,6;369:20; possibly (3) 10;310:8,9,20;313:10; 46:13;49:7;59:21; places (4) 374:11 153:13;216:19;297:13 315:8;321:7;323:22; 60:18;67:4;68:20,21; 24:10;239:12,12; pointed (2) post-approval (1) 327:17;329:11,12; 72:2;118:7,18,21;119:3, 338:16 31:7;320:13 151:22 340:6;352:10,20; 5,9,12,16,18;121:22; placing (1) points (4) posted (2) 357:10;362:7,13; 122:8;126:12,14;132:6; 225:12 64:11;180:18;359:22; 7:17;38:13 368:20;369:1;373:20

Min-U-Script® A Matter of Record (33) pharmacologic - practice (301) 890-4188 FDA - Training Health Care Providers on Pain Management and Safe Use of Opioid Analgesics May 9, 2017 practices (45) preschoolers (1) 161:19;162:19;163:2,8, 12;94:18;95:12;104:7; 301:1;303:7;313:3; 10:7;13:19,19;51:22; 253:1 9,21;164:1,4,5,8,18; 105:17;109:7;111:19, 333:4;372:6 52:22;53:5;54:7;56:8; prescribe (40) 182:11;186:9;196:14; 21;112:3;139:14;155:1, prevalent (1) 61:15;68:8;71:1;72:18; 35:21;38:12;41:8; 197:1,9;198:21;205:9, 2,6,10;157:20,21;158:6, 112:8 77:11;116:11;122:14; 61:13;69:5;72:20;82:22; 15;208:12;210:4; 13;160:9,12;162:1; prevent (5) 126:16;129:5;133:10; 96:17;97:18;101:2; 214:15;217:5;224:1; 163:3;171:19;182:22; 94:19;106:19;157:7; 149:4;176:2;195:16; 106:17;116:10;132:9; 226:3;231:4;236:10; 187:18;193:7,10;194:4; 169:19;226:12 197:11,17;199:3,13; 134:19;138:8;153:14; 238:19;243:17;253:10; 196:3,8;202:8;207:19; preventing (3) 205:10;209:12,13; 182:1;205:20;206:13; 266:5;271:4;272:4; 208:4;224:18;263:5; 25:6;85:18;86:3 211:15;233:4;267:22; 208:17;209:18;216:20; 284:5,8;288:4;301:2; 273:2;274:15,16;301:4; Prevention (17) 298:12;303:9,14;304:1, 219:1;231:22;234:8; 303:12,15;305:8,22; 304:7;305:13;327:8; 31:19;53:10,14;54:15; 2,22;313:15,15;314:9; 236:11;238:22;239:9; 306:17;313:10;314:3,6; 332:19;336:2 57:16,19;58:1;59:12; 356:14;358:4;359:6; 240:9;261:17;282:2,3; 336:22;337:1,12,17,22; prescriptions (41) 62:5;87:2;99:11,17; 367:14;374:2 283:13,22;284:17; 338:6;347:1;371:14; 11:19,21;12:5;13:14; 104:3;114:4;175:2; practice-to-practice (1) 289:20;295:18;313:22; 372:14 14:4,12;15:7,18;16:3; 197:21;198:12 97:3 321:3;350:15 prescriber's (1) 46:8;56:7;58:16,22; previous (5) practicing (2) prescribed (23) 243:8 72:11;73:1;112:1; 77:21;115:19;130:15; 322:5;352:1 11:1;14:3;16:3;17:20; prescribes (1) 125:19,20,21;128:21; 165:3;346:9 practitioner (7) 19:7;61:20;69:14;71:3; 303:13 162:20;163:3,11,12,14, previously (2) 26:15;78:12;171:21; 102:22;112:2;113:18; prescribing (119) 19;164:14;176:14; 138:5;193:9 203:9;229:10;250:7; 119:9;187:2,5;188:11; 12:7,9;14:11;17:7; 177:2;185:22;186:14; priced (1) 374:3 192:22;194:3;238:22; 18:13;19:2;25:17;32:19; 187:20;193:6,15;194:5, 193:2 practitioners (33) 271:6;282:3;283:22; 33:18;34:6;37:1;38:15; 22;195:2;220:18; primarily (4) 20:7,18;60:21;72:17; 305:7;327:5 47:10;49:12;50:13; 235:19;340:15;343:20 74:17;79:14;150:6; 83:4;92:3;173:3,4; Prescriber (80) 51:21;56:8,14;58:7; prescriptive (3) 155:19 180:11;199:6;215:4,9, 3:12;10:18;13:10; 59:22;60:14;61:15,19; 331:13;349:19;368:19 primary (18) 12;216:2;229:12;235:1; 18:10,14,20;20:6,13,15; 62:13;63:13;67:22; presence (1) 37:4;50:11;84:15; 240:1,8;250:12;257:15; 29:17;33:20;34:4;37:5; 69:12;70:20;73:5;79:2; 113:19 99:11;119:3,6,8;122:22; 280:18,20,22;282:20; 38:3;39:17,20;40:8,20; 87:8;92:12;96:15; present (10) 169:14,14,17,18;170:2, 296:7;312:13,13; 50:6;84:5,16;87:19; 101:22;103:15;104:14; 12:19;20:19;80:7; 8;197:22;199:4;280:12; 313:15;345:21;352:19; 90:4,11,18;91:2;94:13; 106:11;108:12;109:20; 94:20;142:15;201:9; 365:4 371:17;372:14;376:21 95:8;97:9;98:3,14,14,18; 112:19;113:12;116:11; 210:15;212:18;350:5,6 principles (2) practitioner's (1) 103:2,5;104:12;105:4,4; 118:18,19,22;122:16; Presentation (16) 333:14;360:20 107:4 106:4;107:10;108:8; 126:15;130:2;131:3; 21:1;31:16;44:21; prior (14) pre-approval (1) 113:4,9,11;150:19; 132:8;135:6,10;137:14, 53:1;63:4;94:8;102:14; 41:19;49:11;59:20; 151:22 151:3;153:21;154:7; 15,18;144:12;151:10; 110:9;121:1;149:20; 135:17;141:17;143:8; pre-authorization (3) 155:4,9,21;156:4,18; 159:20;162:19;173:2; 168:7;201:7;221:6; 152:20;153:18;157:20; 326:13,17,19 160:13;161:17;163:6; 175:6;181:2;185:15; 246:7;300:16;313:11 160:15;163:21;185:21; precursor (1) 164:13;167:4,16; 194:6,11,19;200:3,12; presentations (4) 213:21;293:19 54:1 169:12;178:5;179:4; 205:10,18;208:1,15; 151:15;250:3;253:22; priorities (2) predicative (1) 185:16;191:2;199:9; 209:14;211:3,15;212:7, 333:3 27:15;307:11 344:4 200:1;205:5;211:20; 16;215:16;217:20; presented (4) priority (2) predominantly (3) 212:15,20;214:12; 218:14,17;219:14;222:1, 42:2;146:4;296:6; 185:9;188:18 70:17;316:2,3 219:19;274:4;301:9; 7;223:20;224:8;231:14; 299:6 prison (2) prefer (1) 312:21;371:15;373:17, 234:2;255:6;271:11; presenting (3) 222:4;290:9 327:20 19;374:12;376:14 277:20;290:15,16; 195:12;297:20;311:22 prisons (1) preferred (1) prescriber-level (1) 294:7;295:15,21; presents (1) 82:4 224:11 125:17 301:15;302:12,21;304:9, 9:11 Private (5) pregnancy (6) prescribers (114) 14;305:2;307:12;310:5; President (11) 3:8;188:6;251:21; 92:12,12,17;157:22; 9:11;14:18;17:9;19:4, 313:17,21;314:19; 54:3;78:21;111:1; 256:8;311:6 158:13,19 21;28:15;34:6;37:9,14; 324:16;326:12;327:10; 183:15;204:7;206:21; privilege (1) pregnant (1) 38:6;39:5,7,10,14;44:10; 328:9;329:16;331:12; 213:19;228:3,19; 145:8 92:15 53:9,17;58:5;61:11; 333:21;335:13,21; 229:10;254:8 privileges (1) pre-licensure (1) 62:11;77:9;86:1;88:7; 340:14;366:13;367:8 pressure (2) 321:21 318:19 89:5,8;90:13;96:8; prescription (83) 55:14;111:12 proactive (1) premise (1) 97:17;98:15;101:1; 8:19;9:8;10:8;11:1,3; pretend (1) 277:3 94:19 112:2;113:1,14;114:11; 12:12;13:13;15:10,11; 292:9 probably (31) pre-op (1) 116:16;117:5;118:14; 18:6,22,22;27:13;32:10; pretreatment (1) 6:8;10:14;11:6;13:6; 129:11 119:11;120:3;123:10; 34:5;47:16,21;48:19; 158:19 18:19;41:1;65:5;67:4; prepare (1) 126:1;150:17,20;151:1, 49:1,7,22;51:14,19;52:8; pretty (15) 72:6;83:12;139:16,21; 240:8 9;152:14,19;153:13,16; 55:7;56:1;57:6,9;58:10; 40:17;74:3;122:3; 140:20;171:10;178:22; pre-post (1) 154:3,10,12,19;156:5,5, 59:13;60:11;64:16,21; 130:1,19;156:8;181:15; 189:15,17,19;191:18,21; 70:5 11;157:8,11,18;159:21; 67:3,5;71:9;76:4,7;85:5, 245:20;248:15;274:21; 257:9;259:17;262:20;

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270:2;271:8;287:6; 348:7 348:11,20;351:22; protect (1) Psychiatry (2) 296:16;313:22;339:9; professionals (31) 362:20;369:12 207:16 195:13;286:13 347:10;359:13 6:15;9:15;11:6;61:12, progress (5) protection (1) psychologist (2) probation (1) 18;114:17;170:19; 23:16;31:10;79:1; 222:20 214:6;230:4 82:11 176:7;195:20;196:15, 147:17;333:5 proud (2) psychologists (1) problem (42) 18;198:5,17;199:12; prohibit (1) 29:20;281:19 235:1 16:9;24:1;32:8;55:2; 200:2;211:11;230:9,12, 312:1 prove (3) psychology (2) 56:3,21;57:20;64:18; 15,19;243:19,22;248:18; Project (27) 174:2;218:22;285:2 279:9;288:1 66:17;85:19;92:13; 272:6;303:3;308:10,17; 63:2;64:6,10;73:15; provide (45) psychotherapeutic (1) 96:10;138:4;173:7; 321:2;333:16;353:15; 74:19,20;75:4,7,8,15; 18:7;37:10;38:5; 216:16 174:6,8,19,20;175:20; 368:9 94:2,16;95:22;96:2; 46:14;52:10;53:13; psychotherapy (1) 192:1,13;199:17; professions (8) 102:10;104:2,5;129:6; 88:19;102:15;113:11; 294:6 200:16;207:18;208:3; 168:18;171:16; 131:21;296:16;300:8, 114:2,7;121:20;122:6,9; Public (46) 235:3,16;252:19;257:9; 299:19;300:20,20;302:1, 10;317:14;340:4;350:2, 127:5;133:14;142:22; 3:17;4:3;7:7;12:3; 259:14;270:6;295:21; 8;308:12 5,7 144:1;151:4,8;158:3; 24:13;25:5;33:5;43:14; 330:15,18;335:3,5; professor (4) projects (2) 160:8;162:6;169:3,10; 44:7;54:13;55:15;57:1, 336:4;344:10;347:2; 63:1;110:6;228:2; 198:10;286:6 198:11,18,22;203:14; 14,18;168:17;174:14; 353:10;360:17;362:14 300:7 prolonged (1) 205:19;207:21;217:14; 177:11;179:18;180:4,6; problematic (6) profiles (3) 14:17 219:11;223:7;225:4; 188:15;196:12;204:7, 11:4;139:5;218:22; 99:13;185:8,21 prolongs (1) 226:9;240:5,19;244:19; 13;207:17,20;208:3,6, 345:11,19;346:1 program (110) 203:8 277:1;285:7;309:6,9; 12;209:6;225:19; problems (10) 9:13;27:12;33:6,12; prominent (1) 368:3;373:7 226:15;230:1;249:2,22; 15:16;32:10;48:10; 34:15;35:1;37:4;39:16, 58:3 provided (12) 252:18,19,21;253:11; 140:3;174:10;188:2; 22;40:17;41:17,21;42:4, promise (1) 19:9;37:20;74:11; 256:9;263:12;270:13; 192:11;272:22;273:4; 6,11;47:22;49:8,22; 25:14 88:21;113:16;125:16; 285:13;300:4;321:16; 310:2 73:15;74:20,21;99:6; promising (4) 127:15;143:1;151:16; 341:3 procedure (1) 112:17,19;113:3,7; 57:1,22;77:11;216:16 226:3;261:9;311:10 publication (1) 248:2 114:2,9,16;120:1;139:3; promote (3) Provider (19) 51:1 proceeding (1) 148:1,5;150:13,20,22; 45:21;95:3;282:16 3:3;38:20;52:3;99:12; publicly (1) 47:22 151:13;152:19;154:7,11, promoted (2) 101:14;113:5;114:3,5,5; 369:9 process (16) 13,14;157:2,12,13; 13:8;110:22 183:22;193:17;217:14; public-private (1) 122:10,17;128:5; 158:6,7,16,20;159:4,22; promoting (1) 218:3,8;234:17;236:3, 269:12 129:6,10,21;130:3; 160:2,11,12,17,19; 47:12 21;239:15;268:20 published (10) 159:19;190:19;191:5, 161:9;162:3,4,5,8;163:1, prompt (1) Providers (53) 8:21;71:22;74:14; 13;241:21;247:6; 6,20;164:19,22;165:5,7, 134:15 1:4;35:21;38:8;40:19; 115:15;116:8;146:3; 326:13,15;361:14 11,13,16;183:3;184:5; promulgate (1) 42:16;43:14;46:6;53:9, 181:8;203:17;211:13; processes (2) 210:22;211:1,4,6;218:5, 67:20 18;59:6;60:4;61:6,11; 340:10 236:2;363:6 6;231:3;237:11;246:2,5, propaganda (3) 62:6;82:22;90:12,17; publishes (1) procrastinator (1) 11;249:2,15;253:3,6,21; 220:21;221:15;222:18 120:6;123:12;127:16; 50:22 359:17 257:6;260:22;265:14, proper (6) 128:1,4,7,16,18,21; publishing (1) produce (1) 18;266:13;282:5,9; 161:13;172:17; 131:11;145:18;166:11; 146:9 316:20 284:11;301:4;311:8; 173:22;175:6;185:20; 186:20;198:6,7;204:16; pueblos (1) product (10) 314:12,20;320:20; 277:19 206:13;220:7;232:21; 65:16 36:4,11,17;37:7; 333:6;340:12,13;348:3, properly (3) 234:1,21;237:2;246:9; Puerto (1) 151:20;155:13;160:15; 18;356:1,11;362:17 19:3;107:10;111:5 259:9;260:19;261:17; 291:10 193:1;364:12;367:1 programming (2) properties (1) 274:14,19;275:10; pull (2) products (24) 277:5;324:9 32:14 276:12;291:2;296:4; 90:21;221:9 28:6,10;30:12;32:18, programs (68) proportion (4) 311:7;338:9;348:20; pulled (1) 22;33:1,17;34:7;35:16; 9:13,16,16;34:20,21; 15:18,22,22;16:2 358:1 108:10 36:16,20;37:2;39:6; 36:7;47:1,1,16;48:20; proposal (5) provides (7) pulling (2) 42:1;43:4;150:8;156:14; 49:1,5;50:17;51:15,19; 151:10;161:15;162:9; 31:6;72:2;114:9; 274:8;311:19 159:11,18;165:14,15; 59:15;65:12;71:10; 218:10;219:16 154:9;155:16;193:13; punitive (1) 209:18;218:7;284:9 84:10;90:8;116:12; proposals (4) 313:2 188:10 profession (1) 151:6,7,9;152:21;153:6, 45:9;218:8;219:7,18 providing (13) Purdue (1) 277:8 9,11;154:1,5;155:18,18, propose (1) 38:7;42:21;47:3; 96:4 Professional (23) 19,21;156:9,13,21; 287:11 92:21;136:18;143:21; purely (2) 4:12;9:5;17:18;20:16; 162:14,15,16;165:19; pros (4) 150:16;199:11,18; 140:17;291:20 168:16;171:22;173:20; 182:22;183:19;185:10; 231:2;233:2;240:7; 223:4;241:5;304:21; purples (1) 174:13;176:8;198:1; 207:22;216:18;238:10; 244:5 305:15 55:2 217:16;220:1;228:19; 250:19;267:8;270:1; prosecution (1) psychiatric (2) purpose (3) 275:19;296:18;298:19; 276:2,6,6,13,14;278:4, 290:2 114:21;197:3 172:8;221:17;299:8 301:16;302:13;312:9; 22;281:5;282:7;285:7; prosecutorial (1) psychiatrist (2) purposefully (1) 323:17;329:3;334:11; 301:20;344:9;345:6; 143:12 73:18;229:22 283:11

Min-U-Script® A Matter of Record (35) probation - purposefully (301) 890-4188 FDA - Training Health Care Providers on Pain Management and Safe Use of Opioid Analgesics May 9, 2017 push (5) radiologist (1) 25:15;47:19;50:22; 337:18;339:11;341:4; 18:15;54:15;184:12, 97:21;238:6;311:18; 78:7 99:8 343:16,18;344:12,13,21; 14,16;198:20;215:7,15; 316:13;318:6 railroad (1) readily (1) 349:16;353:20;357:2; 222:13;224:4;374:13 pushback (2) 220:15 109:12 358:1,21,21;359:20; recognized (2) 250:14;367:22 raise (3) reading (1) 360:2,3;362:1,10,12; 27:5;233:10 push-back (3) 223:9;369:1;371:2 55:17 363:4,7,8,9;364:1; recognizes (2) 77:5;78:3,15 raised (2) reads (1) 368:13,17;369:13;370:5, 208:7;224:17 pushing (2) 118:13;376:11 103:18 21;371:10;374:9; recognizing (2) 108:9;318:8 raising (1) ready (1) 375:20;376:11;377:17 56:7;209:4 put (27) 225:16 244:1 realm (1) recommend (3) 16:11;21:10;26:10,10; ramped (3) real (11) 278:4 128:20;185:14;226:2 27:8;76:22;88:21; 142:15,16;275:21 5:18;77:11;83:15; real-time (4) recommendation (6) 122:19;123:6;142:3; ran (1) 90:9;180:16;192:13; 34:3;126:2,13;208:1 62:7,10;77:18;197:1; 144:10;164:21;167:6, 272:22 221:5,9;242:14;302:11; reason (13) 224:9;225:5 10;267:2;275:14;320:7; random (1) 344:10 23:22;40:20;81:8; recommendations (27) 324:22;334:22;339:17; 348:15 realistic (1) 110:19;169:1;222:9,9; 32:3;42:10;52:4; 342:9;343:13;344:13; randomized (1) 213:8 258:14;311:2;314:11; 76:22;77:12;116:7; 358:18;364:13;372:10, 339:15 reality (4) 327:19;341:8;352:9 122:12,13;123:7,19,20; 12 range (9) 80:13;201:13;291:22; reasonable (4) 126:6,9,11;127:13,19; putting (9) 5:20;6:6,10;156:4,5; 292:10 254:22;255:3,22; 128:4,15,17;129:10,16; 55:14;57:3;84:9; 215:10;258:21;374:14; realize (5) 339:7 130:17;133:3,6;182:5; 97:16;168:1;289:8,8; 375:3 68:15;174:9;217:21; reasonably (1) 189:2;203:22 290:9;347:16 ranges (1) 221:5;272:2 255:8 recommended (7) 156:7 realized (5) reasons (9) 42:12,18;110:21; Q rapid (1) 41:5;70:18;104:10; 105:22;132:1,2; 193:22;197:16;226:8; 118:7 143:2;254:20 135:13;178:20;272:21; 325:18 quadrupled (1) rapidly (1) realizes (1) 308:21;344:18;358:15 recommends (5) 55:6 234:10 174:10 reassessment (1) 115:20;116:1,1,2; quality (14) rarely (1) realizing (1) 197:17 199:21 25:7;39:16;123:2; 196:4 364:10 recalcitrant (1) Record (382) 144:13;146:1,10;147:3; rate (6) really (165) 157:5 1:;3:;4:;5:;6:;7:;8:;9:; 202:21;216:9;233:16; 14:15;138:19;194:7; 6:10,11;8:13;14:14; re-cap (1) 10:;11:;12:;13:;14:;15:; 360:18;362:5;363:7,11 267:13;363:22;364:3 22:14;27:18;33:10;40:7; 166:3 16:;17:;18:;19:;20:;21:; quarter (3) rates (9) 41:16;45:14;46:1,10; receive (9) 22:;23:;24:;25:;26:;27:; 117:7;177:19;327:6 54:19;55:4,6;64:13; 48:4;49:17;50:3;51:2; 32:9;60:4;62:12; 28:;29:;30:;31:;32:;33:; query (1) 66:13;75:19;105:16; 52:2;53:5;56:7;58:7,18; 150:18;160:14;216:2; 34:;35:;36:;37:;38:;39:; 46:22 137:15;138:22 64:12,14,15,18,20;65:5; 221:7;268:10;320:14 40:;41:;42:;43:;44:;45:; questioners (1) rather (13) 66:18;67:6;68:11,12; received (11) 46:;47:;48:;49:;50:;51:; 145:3 17:20;34:2;77:11; 74:1;75:20;76:12;77:9; 32:4;33:15;77:3,4; 52:,1;53:;54:;55:;56:; question's (1) 81:4;216:9;232:12; 78:8,22;83:5,9,14,19,20, 88:22;90:6;111:19; 57:;58:;59:;60:;61:;62:; 329:6 245:16;249:10;305:22; 21;84:3,15;86:16,18; 131:7;163:19;367:19,21 63:;64:;65:;66:;67:;68:; quibble (1) 310:11,19;312:15;345:9 88:6,13;89:5;90:1; receives (1) 69:;70:;71:;72:;73:;74:; 336:10 rational (1) 94:11;99:3;115:11; 154:22 75:;76:;77:;78:;79:;80:; quick (7) 129:17 119:14;120:5;130:7,8; receiving (7) 81:;82:;83:;84:;85:;86:; 90:9;151:5;227:19; reach (13) 131:21;132:7,15;133:1, 79:7;148:2;156:3; 87:;88:;89:;90:;91:;92:; 292:13;345:18;363:20; 28:13;29:22;89:7,9, 13,18,22;135:4,8,15; 159:8;160:15;314:7; 93:;94:;95:;96:;97:;98:; 368:7 15;96:7;118:12;189:12; 137:7,18;143:7;146:20; 327:7 99:;100:;101:;102:;103:; quickly (7) 191:11;212:2;276:15; 147:10;149:14;164:20; recent (13) 104:;105:;106:;107:; 68:13;77:7;81:6; 314:5,6 190:6;191:10,16,19; 14:20;84:1;111:18; 108:;109:;110:;111:; 151:17;247:16;324:12; reached (2) 192:3,4;220:17;236:22; 112:21;115:16;116:5; 112:;113:;114:;115:; 364:14 336:16,17 239:3;240:14;242:5; 156:1;163:12;180:15; 116:;117:;118:;119:; quiet (1) reaching (2) 243:16,20;247:14; 211:21;216:5;217:19; 120:;121:;122:;123:,3; 363:15 46:5;89:5 249:9;251:4;252:20; 307:9 124:;125:;126:,3;127:; quite (13) react (4) 255:6;267:17;270:6,12; recently (14) 128:;129:;130:;131:; 12:16;60:2;111:15; 214:20;299:12; 275:1,14,21;276:4,7; 24:10;26:10;58:11,20; 132:;133:;134:,3;135:; 147:2;168:15;216:19; 363:13,17 277:3,18;284:4;285:12, 61:7;119:2;162:17,22; 136:;137:;138:;139:; 237:10;270:22;293:20; reacted (1) 13;286:13;292:13; 183:16;224:7;263:5; 140:;141:;142:;143:; 342:15,16;346:17;363:4 325:3 293:12;294:12;296:4; 274:12;284:16;286:19 144:;145:;146:;147:; quoted (2) reaction (3) 301:8;302:11;304:13; recess (3) 148:;149:;150:;151:; 325:21;326:1 292:14;342:8;343:3 305:2,2,5;307:10;308:2, 93:13;179:20;298:22 152:;153:;154:;155:; reactivity (1) 8;310:7;313:9;314:17; recognition (3) 156:;157:;158:;159:; R 361:15 322:5;324:2;325:14,19; 13:4,5;26:1 160:;161:;162:;163:; read (4) 328:18;329:10;334:17; recognize (11) 164:;165:;166:;167:;

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168:;169:;170:;171:; reduce (11) 170:6 126:20 Remarks (6) 172:;173:;174:;175:; 36:22;75:19;76:12; regimens (1) reiterate (2) 4:19;8:8,10;203:13; 176:;177:;178:;179:; 105:16;181:1;183:6; 216:13 191:14;270:8 204:2;370:1 180:;181:;182:;183:; 187:17;209:3;213:10; region (2) relate (3) Remember (7) 184:;185:;186:;187:; 218:2;219:3 24:2;122:7 81:1;193:4;361:13 166:5;172:20;238:1; 188:;189:;190:;191:; reduced (6) regional (5) related (31) 247:19;358:6;367:10; 192:;193:;194:;195:; 100:9;131:4,5;212:8; 48:11;113:4,12; 5:10;8:19;19:8;23:1; 377:1 196:;197:;198:;199:; 245:9;349:7 183:18;309:10 25:6;55:7;60:11,14,15; remind (2) 200:;201:;202:;203:; reducing (3) regionally (2) 63:7;66:3,14;67:1,9; 7:3;93:1 204:;205:;206:;207:; 56:14;85:14;199:15 123:18,22 69:11;77:18;105:17; reminder (2) 208:;209:;210:;211:; reduction (15) register (6) 207:4;208:22;223:17; 134:14;153:11 212:;213:;214:;215:; 65:1,4;80:20;95:16; 49:7;219:2;253:20; 230:18,20;238:2;246:5; remiss (1) 216:;217:;218:;219:; 101:21;115:7;117:21; 256:22;257:5;348:18 282:6;293:2;306:15; 187:21 220:;221:;222:;223:; 118:1,3;130:2,20; registered (3) 315:16;317:22;329:16; remotely (1) 224:;225:;226:;227:; 266:16,20;267:18; 37:14;163:7;172:22 340:8 352:20 228:;229:;230:;231:; 343:20 registrant (1) relates (3) remove (1) 232:;233:;234:;235:; reductions (1) 172:19 23:20;276:9;318:2 141:16 236:;237:;238:;239:,6; 339:15 registrants (2) Relations (3) removing (1) 240:;241:;242:;243:; redundancy (1) 172:21;272:1 54:5;77:19;225:19 200:8 244:;245:;246:;247:; 235:14 registration (13) relationship (3) REMS (129) 248:;249:;250:;251:; redundant (1) 7:9;34:1;47:2;178:14, 80:8;317:12;344:20 3:12;9:13;25:18;32:2; 252:;253:;254:;255:; 358:19 21;218:22;258:6,16; relative (2) 33:2,6,8,11,16;34:2,14, 256:;257:;258:;259:; referenced (1) 264:21;266:20;320:2; 28:19;184:15 15;35:3,5,10,15;36:3,12, 260:;261:;262:;263:; 203:20 321:18;324:7 relatively (5) 14,17,19,22;37:12,16,18, 264:;265:;266:;267:; references (4) registrations (1) 16:7;40:3;156:10,15; 20;38:11,18;39:2,4,9,13; 268:;269:;270:;271:; 194:10;203:14,15; 264:19 186:15 41:17,20;42:12,19;43:4, 272:;273:;274:;275:; 355:7 regs (2) relatives (2) 7,22;44:3,15;63:7; 276:;277:;278:;279:; referral (2) 347:6;353:5 14:2;16:18 93:21;149:18;150:12,13, 280:;281:;282:;283:; 86:19;202:16 regular (6) release (3) 15,17;151:2,5,5,6,8,11, 284:;285:;286:;287:; refill (2) 68:4;127:1,3;197:17; 14:8;165:11;254:14 12,16,18,21,22,22;152:3, 288:;289:;290:;291:; 128:21;239:6 238:8,16 released (8) 7,19,21;154:8,17,18; 292:;293:;294:;295:; refills (3) regularly (1) 24:11;56:20;76:5; 155:1,15;156:1,3,13,19, 296:;297:;298:;299:; 15:20;101:10;129:3 203:6 82:8;199:7;202:14; 21;157:2,2,5,13;158:3,6, 300:;301:;302:;303:; reflect (1) regulate (1) 224:7;324:17 20;159:2,3,4;160:15,18; 304:,12;305:;306:;307:; 375:10 263:18 releasing (1) 161:7,16,20;162:13,17, 308:;309:;310:;311:; reflected (1) regulated (1) 199:5 22;163:5,20;164:3,19; 312:;313:;314:;315:; 41:15 262:17 relevance (1) 165:1,5,15,19;167:5; 316:;317:;318:;319:; reflects (1) regulates (1) 59:4 180:12;181:1;186:11; 320:;321:;322:;323:; 85:3 263:19 relevant (4) 190:22;192:1;195:8; 324:;325:;326:;327:; refrain (1) regulation (9) 62:14;74:22;210:6; 204:17;211:1;218:5,6; 328:;329:;330:;331:; 188:14 58:14;60:10;178:8; 324:15 229:18;241:14;242:9, 332:;333:;334:;335:; refresher (1) 216:6;221:18,20;222:1; relicensed (1) 11;254:6,11;260:22; 336:;337:;338:;339:; 125:11 308:8;321:16 356:15 271:1;283:9;285:4,11; 340:;341:;342:;343:; refused (1) regulations (16) relicensure (2) 311:7;329:4;331:20; 344:;345:;346:;347:; 11:8 60:13;122:15;302:17; 261:21;355:13 367:20;370:20;372:11; 348:;349:;350:;351:; regale (1) 303:1,10,11,17,19,19; re-licensure (1) 373:14 352:;353:;354:;355:; 172:11 304:8;305:14,18;306:1; 235:12 rendered (1) 356:;357:;358:;359:; regard (6) 326:8;347:14;365:9 relief (6) 217:4 360:;361:;362:;363:; 59:19;170:7;251:5; regulators (3) 11:9,9;18:8,17;19:11; renew (2) 364:;365:;366:;367:; 277:19;292:15;345:14 90:6;91:13;368:21 219:6 72:20;260:1 368:;369:;370:;371:; regarding (23) regulatory (6) REM (1) renewal (2) 372:;373:;374:;375:; 56:6;62:8;63:12; 27:22;28:1;300:21; 183:17 322:17;350:21 376:;377: 94:12;95:22;99:15; 303:22;307:22;367:17 remain (4) Renewed (2) records (1) 104:2,13;114:3;115:4; reimbursed (1) 7:12;112:4;192:8; 18:21;19:6 203:7 141:9;145:22;164:3; 358:5 200:12 repeat (1) recovery (6) 168:18;169:4,10; reimbursement (5) remained (1) 180:15 24:17;25:10;56:17; 177:12;196:13;200:3; 17:11;192:14;267:13; 186:14 repeating (2) 57:16;82:8;129:13 209:13;218:5;248:22; 268:2;373:16 remaining (1) 221:2;248:22 red (5) 365:11 reimbursements (2) 184:2 replicable (1) 24:5;55:4;112:14; regardless (1) 233:20;268:11 remains (2) 149:4 200:21;279:15 210:5 reinforced (1) 88:5;185:9 replicate (1) re-doubling (1) regards (6) 221:19 remarkably (1) 75:14 56:13 22:18;169:6,6,7,11; reinforcing (1) 119:14 replicated (2)

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74:3;75:13 requirements (51) 77:3 reveal (1) 41:22;71:3;99:11,20; report (3) 37:20;42:13;50:8; respectively (2) 81:13 100:19;101:13,14; 51:1;192:8;196:5 51:5,7;53:17;59:7;60:8, 186:16;203:16 reveals (2) 116:2;143:22;144:1; reported (2) 20;77:2;87:16;92:2; respects (1) 81:12;196:2 150:3,6,9;151:18,19; 208:19;348:15 116:17;154:12;157:11; 334:20 reversals (1) 157:5,6,16,17;182:1,14; reports (11) 159:16,19;160:7; respiratory (1) 114:13 196:13,17;197:6,15; 32:9,12,15;113:5; 162:10;164:17,19,22; 10:11 review (14) 200:3;201:15,17; 114:9;118:6,16,17; 169:7;218:16;221:11; respond (1) 70:5;74:13;113:15; 205:11;212:10;214:17; 126:13;127:5;201:19 238:9;242:13;250:19, 216:5 123:7;150:12;151:5,17; 216:15;231:5;347:17 repository (1) 22;251:2;261:4,10; responders (2) 157:12;158:2,17; risks (20) 257:17 276:13;290:22;303:4; 107:15;186:7 159:21;181:14;187:12; 19:1,2,4,5;20:9;33:3; represent (4) 315:3;319:20;321:12,13, responding (1) 188:18 35:2;61:16;62:2;98:22; 40:4;198:4;204:11; 20;322:18;334:13; 145:8 reviewed (2) 99:15;103:20;150:18; 229:16 336:22;342:11,13,15,18; response (11) 162:17,22 151:19;157:9,15; representative (2) 344:19;345:8;350:18; 27:4;57:19;197:12; reviewing (2) 158:22;161:13;187:9; 228:13;301:18 365:10 198:21;203:21;265:7; 150:7;186:12 226:1 representatives (4) requires (6) 278:19;325:7;344:17; reviews (1) road (6) 6:5;22:6;123:4;296:17 140:12,12,15;151:3; 363:18;369:14 181:6 56:20;57:4;58:3; represented (5) 234:18;312:21 responses (1) revised (3) 77:14;139:8;177:20 9:3;122:2;198:2; requiring (10) 359:21 194:8;195:6;320:13 Roanoke (1) 230:10;323:10 47:2;49:11,18;77:8; responsibility (8) revising (1) 143:11 representing (5) 90:11;205:17;210:3; 84:4,10;119:16; 43:10 Robin (27) 92:9;122:20;189:9; 302:15;318:10;339:20 169:15;323:20,21;348:5, Rhode (1) 44:17,21,22;83:13; 231:8;250:10 rescue (2) 19 286:6 88:16;90:14;91:9; represents (6) 85:20;114:7 responsible (7) Richard (3) 300:14,14;307:7; 40:5,7;87:7;204:14; Research (22) 61:15;94:21;102:21; 4:4;200:19,20 320:21;325:8;333:2; 207:6,14 8:7;24:14;25:19; 132:17;235:9;277:20; Rico (1) 335:17;343:2,6;346:15; reproductive (2) 31:20;56:19;57:13;70:3, 348:14 291:10 348:1;349:3;350:21; 157:18;158:18 5;71:19;83:21;104:4; rest (5) rid (1) 351:5,15,17;355:21; repurpose (1) 150:5;170:5;195:15,18, 41:6;85:7;189:16; 294:21 358:14;366:18;367:15 334:9 20;201:2;214:1;229:8; 266:9;349:15 ridiculous (1) robust (2) require (31) 248:10;343:18;377:10 restrict (2) 253:5 227:7;281:4 20:12;33:2;34:20; researchers (1) 367:7,8 ridiculously (1) Rockpointe (1) 43:3,7;49:8;51:16; 171:3 restricted (1) 352:21 183:15 62:11;151:9,21;153:12; reservations (1) 153:12 right (73) Rockville (1) 155:21;163:6,20;164:4; 330:14 restricting (1) 7:6,9;8:17;29:15; 74:1 186:1;187:2;208:14; residency (2) 67:5 30:14;36:16;73:8;76:16; role (25) 215:9;220:2;246:17; 238:10;344:9 restrictive (12) 81:4;82:21;96:17;101:3; 21:18;22:17;28:19; 254:21;261:20;304:16; resident (3) 29:9,9;36:1,2;38:11; 105:22;118:10;132:12, 29:6,17;62:9;90:19; 315:4,5,6,7;331:6; 228:18;314:1,1 137:14;153:7;154:7; 12;134:15;135:16,16; 124:21;138:2,11;166:7; 339:13;354:5 residents (7) 155:16;156:21;164:3; 137:3,4;172:15,16; 169:8,10,17;170:2,6,15, Required (49) 49:3;55:17;59:18; 367:14 188:22;190:17;226:16; 18;180:16;207:3,8; 3:11;34:15;36:8; 234:5,5;238:10;249:15 restrooms (1) 227:12;238:20;241:18; 218:4;223:12;267:6; 37:13;49:19;59:20;60:4, resides (1) 7:5 259:17,18;263:3; 371:18 18;61:13,21;65:13;76:1; 65:17 result (11) 270:15;271:18;275:12; roles (1) 82:7,8;92:11;150:19; resistance (1) 12:12;72:11,12; 286:5;290:7;292:17,21; 274:11 151:14,18;152:10; 68:18 101:21;144:14;158:12; 294:3;298:3,13;307:3; rolled (3) 156:19;157:11,14; resolution (2) 210:8;212:8;221:3; 318:20;322:2;330:6,7,7, 125:3;256:17;274:12 159:21;161:10;165:4,7, 51:12,16 240:19;356:1 10,22;334:19;335:14; rollover (1) 9;178:7;185:15;187:6; resource (2) resulted (2) 336:15;337:8;342:3; 103:8 194:1;211:20;215:22; 88:19;368:17 13:9;211:22 345:16;350:22;351:4,14, room (31) 231:3;235:10;237:11; resources (21) resulting (1) 16,17;354:22;355:2,4,5, 8:17;11:7;16:10; 246:1,5,8,11;247:3; 89:2;90:7;124:8,14; 181:2 6,8;356:11;360:14,16; 29:21,22;45:19;55:11; 253:21;257:6;258:6; 129:17;139:4;223:22; results (9) 362:18;365:20;371:14 128:13;129:3;131:8; 263:17;270:2;350:20; 225:2;286:7;307:17; 14:21;39:17;70:7; rise (3) 138:20;144:5;171:17; 351:20;361:18 308:22;309:5,7,20; 116:19;119:14;129:22; 13:19;32:20;85:7 174:10,11;176:7,8,16, requirement (20) 320:2;333:20;343:22; 146:10;214:10;358:9 rises (1) 17,21,22;232:20;243:1; 50:4;61:10;91:6; 344:13;367:19;368:3; retain (1) 196:9 263:7;283:20;286:11; 153:15,22;154:8;194:16, 369:13 213:12 rising (1) 317:8;325:17;338:21; 18;207:20;235:12; respect (6) retracted (1) 196:21 349:14;357:21 277:16;290:16;320:1; 62:5;216:3;244:10,10; 202:12 risk (40) rooms (1) 342:1,4,6,17;345:3; 246:21;264:18 return (1) 18:22;19:8;27:12; 138:21 351:8;374:16 respective (1) 25:12 31:19;32:17;34:15; Roosevelt (1)

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54:3 115:5,14;116:19;117:9, 103:8;345:13 Seattle (2) self-harm (1) roughly (1) 10,12;119:7;120:8; scenarios (1) 182:20;228:1 196:17 165:12 121:12;126:7;130:9; 99:4 second (20) self-management (1) round (1) 136:1;150:8;185:8; Schedule (6) 6:20;23:20;80:21; 233:17 68:6 197:10;202:4;213:8; 218:7;264:21,22; 99:3;117:9;135:1; self-reported (2) route (2) 229:7;321:17;355:16 294:1;316:7,8 145:22;149:11;152:16; 181:19;211:15 167:13;266:2 safe-use (9) scheduled (2) 159:2;166:19;167:12; semi-mandatory (1) routes (1) 150:18;153:17,19; 6:3;7:7 192:13;221:10;284:20; 29:8 32:14 155:4;157:9,19,21; scheme (1) 289:17;296:1;301:7; Senate (5) routine (1) 161:11;193:16 242:4 302:14;316:14 67:17,18,18;82:9,10 145:18 same (46) schmancy (1) secondary (1) send (2) routinely (2) 45:19;47:7;69:9; 361:9 99:17 37:13;273:3 113:16;234:6 70:13;74:14;94:20;95:2; School (13) Secondly (1) sending (1) RPC (1) 106:19;111:3;124:7; 98:12;210:21;211:2; 190:13 119:13 180:13 125:7;128:5;130:5; 219:8,9,15;234:4; seconds (1) senior (5) RPh (1) 131:22;132:1;136:18, 244:15;254:7;285:10; 148:21 52:20;53:3;204:7; 4:13 18;139:15;142:19; 301:18,19,19 secretary (2) 206:20;234:9 rudimentaries (1) 143:2;148:19;161:21; Schools (15) 145:1;301:13 Seniors (1) 304:4 170:2;186:15,16; 59:11,14,17;185:18; section (3) 234:11 rule (2) 207:19;210:4;221:2; 188:5,5;235:11;249:13; 34:18;71:6;168:11 sense (8) 194:21;292:17 225:14;234:18;271:13; 301:16,20;318:21,22,22, security (1) 128:19;249:11; rulemaking (1) 287:14;288:1;326:10; 22;344:9 54:12 271:18;272:19;305:16; 28:3 327:6,18;332:10,14; Schulkin (1) sedatives (1) 320:22;341:8;375:9 rules (1) 335:1;336:18;342:12, 145:1 125:21 sensitive (1) 67:20 17;354:7;359:12;362:4; science (5) seeing (19) 359:8 run (2) 369:2 20:8;28:9;139:22; 46:20;49:6,21;67:6,8; sensitivity (2) 177:18;338:7 SAMHSA (5) 231:10;279:8 85:4,7;108:10;148:1; 317:9;331:7 running (2) 6:7;198:10;262:7,11; sciences (1) 176:13;183:21;203:2; sent (4) 145:16;211:1 309:8 302:7 231:15;304:5;307:18; 124:1;138:9;187:10; run-through (1) sandhills (1) scientific (2) 310:2;320:11;321:21; 262:11 166:4 374:4 213:20;280:3 325:21 sentence (1) rural (2) Santa (1) scientifically (1) seek (2) 258:14 72:14;316:1 69:22 202:9 120:2;345:2 separate (7) Ruth (1) satisfaction (2) scientists (1) seeking (1) 61:5;129:15;158:8; 204:1 102:2,3 232:9 217:18 162:4;165:1;220:15; Rx (1) satisfactory (2) scope (5) seeks (1) 294:21 204:22 336:12;371:6 33:10;41:3;211:3; 195:18 separating (1) satisfied (1) 213:13;364:6 seem (3) 366:13 S 335:13 scrambling (1) 156:8;255:5;318:7 September (2) Saturday (1) 164:13 seemed (2) 125:3;281:9 Safe (44) 331:19 scratch (1) 370:11;372:6 sergeant (1) 1:5;28:2;35:7,11,22; saves (3) 202:13 seemingly (1) 100:16 38:15;43:11;62:13; 239:16;327:13;340:14 screen (7) 99:20 series (5) 63:12;64:6,9;67:22; saving (1) 79:17;126:5;130:14; seems (15) 22:6;25:4;27:21; 69:12;75:8;79:2;94:21; 327:18 134:6;144:11;256:21; 45:6;87:14;234:16; 183:17;184:6 116:10;122:6;152:6,13, saw (8) 365:15 249:11,16;254:21;255:2, serious (4) 22;153:1,2,7;155:15; 41:18;72:3;104:4; screening (10) 22;291:14;293:3;296:3; 157:9;181:1;335:1,4 161:13;164:18;175:12, 184:6;190:9;263:1; 70:22;71:1;79:16,17; 316:18;333:9;341:7; seriously (5) 14,14;185:20;186:8; 268:16;271:17 86:19;196:15;197:5; 367:5 6:18;8:3;65:6;111:3; 194:12,14;202:20; saying (19) 200:6;268:16;315:14 sees (1) 204:12 205:10;208:8;211:2; 78:6;97:12,13;108:18; screens (4) 352:19 serve (6) 215:15;217:6;223:19; 109:13;132:11;143:22; 97:22;99:12;113:19; seizes (1) 47:13;206:20;210:22; 235:9;314:18;340:8 171:10;241:16;273:18; 117:3 203:6 280:21;282:17,22 safely (5) 291:6;307:8;310:15; scripts (1) select (2) serves (2) 28:16;205:20;232:22; 317:2;339:9;341:7; 187:15 52:6;56:22 54:6;158:12 240:8;365:16 343:8;358:14;360:18 sea-change (2) self- (1) Service (10) safer (5) scale (3) 11:21;19:19 72:4 64:4;73:11,12,16,22; 28:6;216:20;217:4; 79:21;111:13;171:7 search (1) self-assessment (1) 74:6,12;82:3;340:3; 224:5,12 SCAN (2) 221:8 321:3 365:2 safety (33) 340:11,12 seat (1) self-care (1) services (9) 39:18;41:22;54:13; scaring (1) 191:3 211:7 24:18;55:15;95:5; 55:15;57:2,15,18;85:2; 188:14 seats (1) self-efficacy (3) 102:15;292:17;298:10; 110:7,16,17;113:2,10; scenario (2) 93:16 70:6;71:20;340:6 330:14;338:10,15

Min-U-Script® A Matter of Record (39) roughly - services (301) 890-4188 FDA - Training Health Care Providers on Pain Management and Safe Use of Opioid Analgesics May 9, 2017 serving (1) shoot (1) significant (31) situations (10) 348:19 53:20 201:21 23:15;31:10;65:16; 18:17;145:17;164:10; society (27) session (7) shooting (1) 72:4;73:2,3,5;80:19; 171:1,4,6;193:6,15; 9:5;59:10;70:11;92:9; 93:16;94:1;120:18; 85:9 98:12;99:22;105:13; 224:17;232:4 105:8;110:21;111:2; 226:15,17;283:21; shop (1) 124:19;130:19;137:20; six (10) 137:10;217:12,16; 377:16 315:13 163:22;185:2;186:20; 38:17;68:5;126:10; 228:4;229:2;231:9,10, sessions (3) short (7) 196:3;205:21;211:14; 185:8;194:21;220:17; 20,21;232:8;237:17; 183:18;282:11;366:4 116:1;187:6;201:7; 225:13;233:15;234:12; 247:17;255:10;314:19; 254:6,12;279:22; set (5) 212:2;219:11;254:22; 248:11;252:20;270:6; 318:19 295:11;317:22;318:1; 7:11;27:6;179:3; 300:1 294:11;333:5;340:5; size (4) 337:21;352:15;366:20 260:14;321:7 short-acting (2) 364:3;366:16 50:17;83:16;252:7; socioeconomic (1) sets (1) 208:10;326:18 significantly (9) 320:22 338:1 308:2 shortage (1) 45:5;127:22;131:9; skeptic (1) soldier (1) setting (10) 199:18 133:4;143:3;197:7; 349:10 100:14 116:1;118:7;199:4; shorten (1) 219:3;248:17;263:4 skeptical (1) soldiers (2) 238:18;252:5,6;316:1,1, 206:1 signs (6) 312:18 100:9,14 2,3 shortly (1) 19:16;61:16;62:2; skills (8) sole (2) settings (2) 194:17 111:2,4;214:20 83:9;140:12;181:16; 99:12;221:16 199:1;236:15 short-term (1) silence (1) 186:7;196:19;212:21; solely (1) seven (3) 104:18 7:4 213:7;217:1 161:16 59:20;317:15;360:20 show (25) silos (2) skip (1) solo (4) Seventy-nine (1) 23:11,13,13,20,21; 257:12,20 57:21 72:17;250:12;313:15; 130:10 51:3;69:14;70:7;83:16; Silver (2) sleep (1) 374:3 several (22) 108:14;129:2;134:21; 1:16,18 177:16 solution (13) 9:14;13:9;32:14; 144:11,13;156:2;179:5; similar (14) slide (21) 208:12;259:13; 54:18;55:20;60:2; 230:13,16;284:20;297:7, 59:13,17;60:20;116:7; 23:8,20,22;24:5; 262:22;263:1,22; 116:12;146:19;151:15; 11;298:6;329:22; 122:4;125:15;136:4; 25:14;50:21;54:19; 264:10;315:18;316:12; 152:3;156:22;164:2,15; 349:18;355:22 160:6;161:17;187:7,19; 57:21,22;80:11,14,18; 318:5;319:8,16;327:20; 185:11;188:2;204:18; showed (8) 195:3;285:7;361:8 81:5;152:12;155:16; 328:6 218:8;281:18;282:6; 41:11;54:20;80:9,11; Similarly (2) 157:10;159:15;160:10; solutions (9) 283:4;340:10;354:20 163:13;184:10;248:10; 15:7;182:19 165:4;248:14;306:12 45:11;174:6;217:18; several-fold (1) 340:16 simple (1) slides (8) 225:8;263:10;265:3; 165:5 showing (4) 23:22 47:19;66:21;130:4; 287:10;288:17;341:5 severe (1) 48:18;66:21;312:12; simpler (1) 151:17;154:6;165:18; somebody (9) 157:4 340:12 161:18 168:20;293:11 36:5;95:13;102:8; severely (2) shown (10) simply (10) slight (2) 109:18;245:21;275:5,6; 200:13;220:17 117:16;129:22; 12:2;15:1;108:18; 85:4;192:1 306:22;360:22 share (6) 247:22;248:6,15; 181:4;183:4;221:8; slightly (2) somebody's (1) 100:1;108:3;170:12; 256:18;293:1;332:1; 222:15;243:13;247:8; 159:18;160:18 275:8 171:15,16;298:12 333:4;340:5 304:6 Sloan-Kettering (1) somehow (5) shared (1) shows (8) simultaneous (1) 214:3 11:3;17:1;190:11,22; 36:14 98:11;111:14;157:10; 200:6 slower (1) 360:12 shared-system (2) 159:15;162:19;222:7; single (7) 40:3 someone (19) 157:2;159:4 247:3;339:15 98:13;104:20;115:11; small (16) 9:11;87:3;146:14; sharing (3) sickle (2) 190:14;232:19;237:21; 66:9;72:6,16;102:16; 238:15,20;239:17; 172:6;233:5;373:8 12:22;239:11 248:13 149:4;156:10,15; 243:14;264:15,16; sharp (1) side (5) sit (5) 172:18;173:6;232:4; 269:2;271:5;293:17; 85:7 11:10;16:5,6;330:17; 5:4;54:8;94:4;172:11; 260:12;296:8;313:3,15; 294:13;297:9;305:16; sheet (1) 353:8 180:3 328:1;377:6 352:1;353:13;360:18; 134:9 sides (1) site (2) smaller (2) 371:19 Sheraton (1) 19:12 113:14;182:13 314:8,9 someplace (1) 1:16 sign (7) sits (1) smart (2) 339:18 Shield (1) 110:19,22;111:7,10; 68:22 121:8;254:9 sometimes (7) 295:3 158:17;161:10;261:12 sitting (4) snap (1) 86:10;296:1;342:13, shift (6) sign/co-sign (1) 100:13,17;176:18; 269:5 14;364:10;367:6;377:13 12:9;13:5,9,11;33:17; 191:1 363:2 social (8) somewhat (6) 257:11 signals (1) situated (5) 55:15;105:8;137:21; 17:14;95:17;117:17; shifted (1) 150:8 253:20;256:22;257:5; 203:3;297:9;328:11; 156:17;190:19;297:18 12:16 signed (11) 265:13,17 338:10,14 soon (3) shifts (1) 46:19;47:17;56:12; situation (7) societal (3) 66:10;282:8,10 299:4 58:21;61:8;68:13;126:8; 169:13;174:7;206:7; 11:12;12:6;18:8 sophisticated (2) ship (1) 208:21;272:12;274:19; 277:8;295:16;319:17; societies (4) 18:2;253:4 154:18 279:4 346:18 17:18;193:12;263:13; sophistication (1)

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