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Welcome to the Polish ParliamcntaryDelegation .... i

'*^ral Answers to Questions :

♦Staffed Questions Nos. 22, 23, 34 and 24 to 29 2—42

Written Answers to Qucstipns :

•Starred Questions Nos. 21, 30 to 33 and 35 to 40 . 42—51

Unstarred Questions Nos. 201 to 255,257 to 297 and299 to 400 51—274

Papers laid on the Tabic . 275—76

Calling Attention to Matter oi UrgentPublic Importance—

Strike by Port and Dock workers ..... 277__97

Shri . . 277,281— 83

Shri Chand Ram . . . 277— 81, 283— 85, 291— 93 Shri Bedabrata Barua . . . 285— 87

Shri . . . 288— 91

Shri Vasant Sathe . . . . 293—96

Shri K. Mallanna ...... 296— 97

Coounittee on Privileges— Third Report ... . . 297— 99

Additional Duties of Excisc (Tcxtics^nd Textile Articles) Bill— Introduced • "*, 299

Statement rc. Additional Duties o^Excise (Textiles and Textile Articles) Ordinance, 1978

Shri ^u’fiquarullah . . • 3oo

•The sign+marked above the name of a Member indicates that the qu'QStion was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (ii)

Matters under rule 377— C olumns (i) Selection oi’ players for Indian Cricket team that toured Pakistan— ShriK. Gopal ...... 300— 301 (ii) Reported disturbances in Bihar on the question of reservation for backward communities in Government Services Dr. Ramji Singh ...... 302

(iii) Need o f legislation for reforms in electoral system— Shri Eduardo Falero ..... 302— 303

(iv) Reported shortage o f fertilizers and diesel in Uttar Pradesh Shri Brij Bhushan Tiwari ...... 303

(v) Reported sufferings faced by people of Cacharand Goal- para districts of Assam due to dacoitics from across the Bangladesh border Shri Ahmed Hussain 303— 305

Water (Prevention and Control of Pollution) Amendment Bill—

Motion to consider— 305— 41

Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan 305— 10

Shri Ugrasen • 310— 14

Dr. Karan Singh 314— 18

Shri Om Prakash Tyagi 318— 22

Shri A. Asokaraj . . . 322— 25

Shri Ram Murti . . .. 325— 28

Shri Vijaykumar N. Patil 328— 31

Prof. P. G. Mavalankar 3 3 2 -3 5

Shri Sikandar Bakht ..... 335— 41

Clauses 2 to 22 and i 341— 42

Motion to pass 342— 48

Shri Shrikrishna Singh . ... 342— 44

Dr. Saro/ini Mahishi . . . 344— 47

Shri Sikandar B a k h t ...... ,34 7 -4 8 (iii)

C olu mns Britannia Engineering Company Limited (Mokameh Unit) and the Arthur Butler and Company (Muzaffarpore) Limited (Acquisition and Transfer o f Undertakings) Bill—

Motion to consider— Shrimati Abha M a i t i ...... 349—5^ Clauses 2 to 33 and i ...... 353— 54

Motion to pass— Shrimati Abha Maiti .... . 354

Repealing and Amending Bill— Motion to consider, as passed by Rajya Sabha— Shri Shanti Bhushan . . -355

Clauses 2 to 4 and 1 . . 356

Motion to pass— Shri Shanti Bhushan . . . 356

Suppression o f Immoral Traffic in Women and Girls (Amendment) Bill—

Motion to consider—

Dr. Pratap Chandra Chunder . 356—61

Shri P. Rajagopal Naidu . . . . 361— 63

Shri Laxmi Narain Nayak . . 363—65

Shri Vayalar Ravi ...... 365—72

Shri Om Prakash Tyagi ...... 372— 76

Dr. Ramji Singh . .... 376— 83

Shrimati Bibha Ghosh^Goswfmi • • . 383— 90 LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Measures to ensnre Accident-Free Tuesday, November 21, 191S/Kartika and Daeoit-Free Travel by Railways 30, 1900 iSaka) + *22. SHRI RAGAVALU MOHANA- RANGAM: The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock SHRI BIRENDRA PRASAD:

[Mr. S peak er in the Chair] Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: WELCOME TO THE POLISH PARLIAMENTARY DELEGATION (a) the position regarding accident- free and dacoit-free travel by rail­ MR. SPEAKER: Hon’ble Members, ways during the last three months aS at the outset, I have to make an compared to earlier months; announcement. (b) whether it is true that the On my own behalf and on behalf number passengers by rail has of the Hon’ble Members of the House, shown a decline because of hazards I have great pleasure in welcominig of travel by railways; and His Excellency Mr. Stanislaw Gucwa, (c) the precise protective measures M.P., Marshal of the SEJM (Speaker taken to ensure safe travel? of the Polish Parliament) and the Hon'ble Members of the Polish Parlia­ mentary Delegation who are on a visit THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS to India as our honoured guests. (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) to (c). A statement is laid on the The other Hon’ble Members of the Table of the House. delegation are: — Staatement ( 1) Mr. Zdzislaw Kurowski, Member of Parliament. (a) During the last 3 months i.e., August to October, 1978 there were (12) Mr. Zdzislaw Balicki, Mem- 247 train accidents on the Indian Gov­ ber of Parliament. ernment Railways mostly of minor (3) Mrs. Danuta Podlewska, Mem­ nature against 258 train accidents of a similar nature during the preceding ber of Parliament 3 months i.e.. May to July, 1978. (4) Mr. Edward Wisniewski, Mem- ber of Parliament. As per information collected from State Police Authorities, during the The delegation arrived here this last 3 months from August, 1978 to morning. They are now seated in the October, 1978 there were 19 dacoities Special Box. Through them we and 38 robberies in nmning trains. convey our greetings and best wishes Compared to this tihere were 26 dacoi- to the SEJM and the friendly people ties and 29 robberies during the earlier of the Polish People’s Republic. 3 months from May, 1978 to July, 1978. Oral Answers NOVEBffiKR 21, 1978 Oral Answers

(b ) No, sir. hawkers and unauthorised persons into (c) Since human failure is the the Coaches. largest single factor responsible for accidents, Safety Organisations on the The GRP functioning under the Railways have been engaged in a State Governments have also intensi­ relentless campaign to create greater fied the preventive measures adopted by them. Safety consciousness amongst the staff connected with the of trains The Minister of Railways had drawn and to ensure that staff do the attention of the Chief Ministers of not violate rules or indulge in concerned States requesting them to short-cut methods that may lead to take firm measures to curb crimes in accidents. In order to reduce depen­ running trains. The response from the dence on human element, various Chief Ministers has been encouraging. sophisticated aids like ultrasonic Haw detectors for wheels, axles and rails, The problem of crimes ad’ecting track-circuiting, axie counters, tiuto- passenger security and s.ifety of their matic warning system, etc. arc being belongings was discussed in the recent iiitroduced progressively. It has been conference of the Chief Ministers. decided to complete track-circuiting of run-through lines at all the stations Though the Railway Proctection on tnmk routes by 1981. In addition, Force is concerned with the protection track circuiting of 100 vulnerable of goods entrusted to Railways for stations from fouling mark to Advanc­ carriage and railway materials, in ed Starter will be completed by order to instil confidence among the 30-9-1979. travelling public and deter criminals from op>eraling on trains, over 2000/- The responsibility of ensuring the armed R.P.F. personnel have been ^ fe ty of passengers and the security deployed for escorting affected trains o f their belongings rests with the in vulnerable sections all over the Government Railway Police which Indian Railways. functions under the administrative a^^d disciplinary control of the State Gov­ SHRI RAGAVALU MOHANARAN- ernments. The RPF has preventive GAM: Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is s t a t e d and detective powers only in re s p e ct by the hon. Minister in his reply that d railway property. there were 19 dacoities and 39 robbe­ In the wake of robberies and dacoi- ries in running trains during the last ties in North-South bound trains, on three months from August 1978 to 16-6-78 a high level meeting 'w-ds held October 1978, whereas during the between the officers of the Ministries period from May 1978 to July 1978 of Railways and Home Affairs in there were only 20 dacoities and 29 which certain firm decisions such as robberies. While appreciating reduc­ pro^ipt channel of communication with tion in the number of dacoities by only the police escort in the centre of the one, from 20 to i9, I want to knOw train, provision of powerful torch the exact reasons for 19 dacoities and 38 lights with guards and brakesmen robberies in running trains especially and close liaison with the States for the past 3 months. He has given affected for stepping up police pro­ a reply which is a very long reply. tection were taken. But I want to know the exact reasons ^ ^ for the dacoities and robberies for the _ The Zonal Railways launched a past 3 months from August to October. drive to ensure strict adherence to the latest instructions about locking of PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE; The v^ibuled doors between 22.00 hours exact reasons are exactly what I have and 06.00 hours. Besides, travelling stated in my written reply. Ticket Examiners and Coach Atten­ dants remain vigilitnt during night SHRI RAGAVALU MOHANARAN- time and prevent entry of intruders, GAM: Since I am not a technical Oral Aniwers KARTIKA 80, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers

miin, I ani not in a position to \mder- railway authorities and especially of stand >vhat exactly he has given in Delhi-Madras GT Express that the his reply. Because he is a professor, number of travellers from Madras- he has given a reply in that way. Delhi has come down. I want to know But I want to know the reasons. whether it is true?

PROF. MADHU D AND A V ATE: Sir, PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: 1 as far as dacoities and robberies are would like to speak on the basis of concerned, we have found out that in facts and figures rather than the respect ol certain vulnerable sections hearsay on the of some citizens where tncre are certain anti-social and some officials. I have already elements induJging in crimes outside given some details. In 1976-77, and the iculways, the railways are also 1977-78, the figures are like this. In affected by the same. Whatever is in 1976-77, in these three months the the well would always come in the number of passengers was 881.1 million bucket and therefore, whatever hap­ and in 1977-78, the number has gone pens in the adjoining area.s and locali­ up to 987.7 million. These figures have ties, happens on the railways also in been collected on the basis of tickets those particular vulnerable areas and, sold to the passengers that are carried therefore, o\ir entire efforts is to iden­ and we find that as compared to the tify those areas which are vulnerable last year’s performance this year’s for crimes. In those areas we have performance has definitely improved. set up special machinery. When the trains pass through such particular MR. SPEAKER: Ticketless travel­ area—for instance, for some time we lers are not included. found that the South bound trains passing through a particular route in Madhya Pradesh and other areas were PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: actually more vulnerable in those Since they were not taken into account , areas we posted additional squads last year, they were not taken into with the cooperation of GRP and RPF. acc'ount this year also. We also made additional arrangement that during the night from 10 O’Clock to 6 O’clock the vestibule doors ®re W I % 247 ^ p being completely closed. This apari additional T.Cs. and other staff have 'TT I ? been detailed on trains to see that ai ^ ^ xftx f t I I ^ night time that particularly a propei ^ ^ ^ I I check is made and I am g M to infornti the House as a result of these measures \A' ^ particularly in those vulnerable areas, the. dacoities and robberies have comfc down. A concrete instance is that as far as daqoities and robberies in respect 5fto ^ 5 of South bound trains are concerned 5RTRT 1^’ ■—i am not referring merely to thefts, but rebberies and dac-oities—after f ITT t , ^ ^ ^ Twt I ^ 12th August, by and large no such crime has been committed. ^ | i

SHRI RAGAVALU MOHANARAN- 197 8 ^ 247 ^ A GAM: In answer to part (b) of the question viz. Whether it is true that failure of staff—91, failure of persons the nymber of passengers by rail has other than the railway staff— 17, shown a decline because of hazards of failure of equipment—m echanical^6, travel by railways, the Minister has tlrack—9, sabotage— 1, accidental—23, fiaid W . I am told by some of the cause could not be established—2^ cases Oral Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Oral Answers

'wrtiich have not been finalised so far— MR. SPEAKER; Please come to 58. the question. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Wlhy are A ^ w t t g you interfering? I would request you ^ 3TK ^ 1 H to allow me to exercise my right as a ^ %(\T fjTVT f Member. I am responsible to the m S^lT i tt^p^ ^ ^Ift ^ 1 977-78 M ^ - - people of this country should I not exercise my right? 606 actions have been taken. Dis­ MR. SPEAKER: You are exercising missal and removal from service 19, your right very much; and you are compulsory retirement 3, reversion to exercising your right in the Question lower grades 42, reduction in the same Hour. grade 46, withholding of increments for varying periods 364, withholding SHRI K. LAKKPPA: I am duly of gratuity 1, stoppage of passes and exercising my right and any inter­ PTOs 39, censure and warning 90, ference will completely nullify my debarred from promotion 2, total action effective functioning as a Member of taken 606. Parliament. MR. SPEAKER; During Question SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Mr. Hour you have only to put questions. Speaker, Sir, you m^y perhaps remem­ ber that in the last session when a SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: I am only question on the dacoities in the South­ putting a supplementary—a relevant bound trains was put, the hon. Minis­ supplementary. The Ministry has been ter has come out saying that they had a total failure in not even bringing taken certain remedial measures. But any remedial measure. the image of the Railways, has been completely tarnished. MR. SPEAKER: I am sorry, Mr. Lakkappa. MR. SPEAKER: Please come to he SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: There is question. total failure on < the part of the Minis­ SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: The dacoi­ try in bringing. ties in trains are on the increase. MR. SPEAKER: Don’t record. MR. SPEAKER: Please come to the {Interruptions)** question. I do not allow any state­ MR. SPEAKER: Unless you put a ment. question I will not allow it to be recorded. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: I cannot tolerate the inefficiency of the Govern­ SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: ment. I a^i putting a question on Rail­ Therefore, i would like to know ways. what effective and streamlin­ MR. SPEAKER; What is your ing measures the Ministry has question? thought of and by how much all these things, including robberies, have SHRl K. LAKKAPPA: My ques- come down so far, from the last ses­ tion is, dacoities are increasing ----- sion to this Session, the steps taken, the number of people who have been MR. SPEAKER: That is informa­ arrested, and other security measures tion and not a question. taken in regard to the travelling pub­ SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: The ineffi­ lic, because travelling by trains has ciency of the Ministry in taking re­ been diminishing now people are scar­ medial measures. ed of travelling by trains. Therefore^

•♦Not recorded. Oral Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10

I would like to know what permanent (b) if so, details thereof; and measures have been taken by the hon. Minister? (c) whether a decision has also been taken to Lower the present ceil­ PROF. MADPIU DANDAVATE: Sir, ings on the remunerations and perks ctin I exercise my right to re p ly .... of top executives of private compa­ nies and if so, details thereof? MR. SPEAKER. You can reply only to the relevant questions and not make THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS­ a counter-speech! TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) and PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: (b). The recomendations made by the There is not much to be replied to, I Sachar Committee are under conside­ would say that as far as figures are ration of Government and appropriate concerned, in the written reply they measures, including legislative amend­ have alrtjady been mentioned. ments, as may be necessary, will be taken in due course. As f'nr as concrete steps are concern­ ed, not only have I enumerated the (c) The Central Government has various steps I have taken but, in re­ since issued revised guidlines relating ply to a previous question, I referred to the remuneration of managing/ to the vulnerable areas and sections, I wholo-time directors/managers of referred to the concrctc action taken, public limited companies and private and I also indicated that, after taking companies wliich are subsidiaries of the steps explained by me since the public limited companies. A note on 12th June, in the vulnerable areas, this subject is placed on the table of particularly in the south-bound trains, the House. no robbery or dacoity has taken place and, as a result of that, whatever be N o t e our image in the eyes of the hon. Revised guidelines/administrative Member, in the eyes of the southern ceilings on the salary and perquisites/ Journals Editors it is different because benefits allowable to the Managing they have commented and said that as Directors, Whole-time Directors, Part- a result of these steps, in the south­ time paid Directors and Managers in bound trains robberies and dacoities Public Limited Companies, or Private have come down. Limited Companies which are subsi­ diaries of public limited companies. MR. SPEAKER: We will take up Questions 23 and 34 together. 1. Introduction Recommeiulation 5 of Sachar Com- 1.1. The expression ‘managerial mittee on Companies Act and MRTP personnel’ in relation to companies A c t registered under the Companies Act, 1956 ordinarily refers to the Managing/ + Whole-time Directors or Managers [as SHRI S. R. DAMANI: defined under Section 2(24) of the Act] and excludes executives who are *23. SHRI MANORANJAN not members of the Board of Directors BHAKTA: of a company irrespective of the salary Will the Minister of LAW, JUS­ paid to them. TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be 1.2. Both the appointment and re­ pleased to state; muneration of the managerial person­ (a) whether Government have nel are subject to the regulatory pro­ taken any decisions on the recom­ visions contained in the Companies mendations made by the Sachar Com­ Act. As such the approval of the mittee the Companies Act and Central Government is required both MRTP Act^ for the appointment/reappointment of II Oral Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Oral Answers

Managing/Whole-time Directors/Mana­ or more of them holding office in the gers and also for the remuneration company. This limit of Rs. 50,000 payable to them during their tenure could be exceeded with the approval of appointment. of the Central Government if the latter is satisfied that, for the efficient con­ 2. Statutory provisions Regarding duct of the business of the company, Limits of Managerial Remunera­ the minimum remuneration of tion. Rs. 50,000 per annum, is or will be insufficient. 2.1. While under section 269 read with section 388 their appointment as 3. Administrative Guidelines well as reappointment is subject to the approval of the Central Government, Administrative guidelines were issu­ the provisions of sections 309 to 311 ed in November 1969 governing the re­ read with section 387 govern tlieir re­ muneration payable to the Managing/ muneration. Section 309 provides, iiiter Whole-time Directors, Managers of alia, that the Manging/Whole-time Public Limited Companies and Private Director ivay be paid upto 5 per cent Companies which were subsidiaries of of the company’s net profits for one Public Limited Companies, ^n view such Director and where there is more of persisting doubts regarding the than one such Director, upto 10 per Central Government s powers in fixing cent thereof for all of them put toge­ ceilings on remuneration, the Compa­ ther. nies (Amendment) Act, 1974 introduced certain new provisions which vested 2.2. Under section 198, the remu­ the Central Government with specific neration payable to all Directors in­ powers to fix the remuneration of cluding a Part-time Director is not to Managing/Whole-time Directors and exceed 11 per cent of the company’s Managers. The new provisions of net profits and this percentage is section 637AA clearly enunciated the exclusive of the fees payable to the principles that should be kept in view Directors for attending the meetings in approving any appointment or in of the Company’s Board of Directors fixing the remuneration of the mana­ from time to time. gerial personnel. It was specifically laid down that the Central Govern­ 2.3.. The remuneration to a Manag­ ment, while according its approval to ing Director or Whole-time Director or managerial remuneration would inter- Manager may, however, be paid to alia have regard to “public policy them either by way of monthly pay­ relating to the removal of disparities ment or as percentage of the net profits in income”. or by way of perquisites or by one or more of them. In any case, it ^^■ill be subject to the limits mentioned above. 4. The case for Reduction in Ceilings

2 4. Minimum or Protected Remu­ The Central Government have care­ neration fully reviewed the entire question of managerial remuneration in the con­ Section 198(4) of the Companies Act text of socio-economic objectives of provides, inter alia, that where a Stale Policy and the need for estab­ company has no profits or its profits lishing a co-relation in managerial are inadequate in any financial year, remuneration at comparable levels of it may, subject to the Cntral Gov­ responsibility in Government, public- ernment’s approval, pay to its Direc­ sector undertakings and public limited tors including any Managing/Whole­ companies. In this connection, the time Director or Manager by way of recommendations of the S tu d y Group minimum remuneration an amount not on Wages, Incomes and Prices (Bho- exceeding Rs. 50,000 per annum to all othalingam Committee) whose report of them put together if there are two was published in May 1978 as well as 13 Oral Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 iSAKA) Oral Answers 14 the recommendations of the High- anies Act, 1956. There would, how­ powered Expert Committee under the ever, be separate non-inter change­ Chairmanship of Justice Rajinder able ceilings for expenditure on Sachar have been taken into account. pens.o.ia.^ oenefits, medical treat­ These two Committees had the bene­ ment and housing. Within this over­ fit of the vie\\"s of various interests all lirn t the perquisites that may and bodies representing the employers, be a 1 x:'{ by the company will be employees, trade unions etc. at under: —

5. Revised Guidlines (i) Company’s contribution to­ wards Provident Fund: The following revised guidelines have accordingly been framed for deal­ Non-interchangeable ceiling of 10 ing with applications received by the per cent of salary. Central Government under Sections (ii) Company’s contribution to­ 269, 310, 311, 309 and 198, 387 and 388 wards Pension/Superannuation of the Companies Act 1956: Fund: 5.1. Substantive Remuneration Non-interchangeable ceiling of 15 per cent of salary. (i) The maximum remuneration payable t© Managing/Whole-time or (iii) Gratuity: Part-time paid Directors, Managers Payable in accordance with an ap­ from one or more companies put proved fund and which does not together, subject to the statutory exceed one-half months’ salary for limits, has been fixed as under: — each completed year of service subject to a non-inter-changeable (a) The salary inclusive of dear­ ness aJlowance and all other fixed ceiling of Rs. 30,000 or 20 months allowances should not exceed Rs. salary, which ever is less. 60,000 per annum; (iv) Medical benefits for self and family: ; (b) A Commission on net profits upto 1 per cent of the net profits Non-interchangeable ceiling of 1 may be allowed in addition to the month’s salary subject to a maxi­ salary as an incentive for efficient mum of R^. 5000 per annum. and sound management, but this should be at least 20 per cent of (v) Leave and leave travel con­ cession. salary subject to an overall ceiling that salary plus commission would (vi) Housing including furniture^ not exceed Rs. 72,000 per annum fixtures, appliances, gas and elec­ (bonus will be treated as part of tricity—Non-interchangeable ceil­ commission); ing of 40 per cent of salary on the condition that 10 per cent of salary (c) Where a company proposes to would be borne by the managerial pay any remuneration in the form personnel; of commission on net profits alone, this shall be subject to a maximum (vii) Free use of company^s car limit of Rs. 72,000 per annum; and with driver; (viii) Personal accident insurance. (d) Henceforward, perquisites will be restricted to an amount equiva­ (ix) Free telephone facility at lent to the annual salary subject to residence. ^ a maximum of Rs. 60,000 per annum to be reckoned on the basis of actual (x) Fees of clubs subject to a expenditure or liability incurred by maximum of 2 clubs. Admission the company as provided under ex­ and life membership fees to clubs planation to section 198 of the Comp­ will not be allowed. IS Oral Answers NOVEMBER 21, 197S Oral Answers 16

5.2. Minimum Remuneration Sachar Committee relating to concen­ In the event of absence or inade­ tration of economic power are contain­ quacy of profits in any financial year, ed in Chapter X X of its Report, copies a cut of 10 per cent will be imposed on of which were laid on the Table of the the substantive salary while the ceil­ House on the 30th August, 1978. ing on perquisites will not be altered, (No commission/bonus will be payable (b) and (c). The recommendations of the Ccnimittee are being considered by in the case of absence or inadequacy of profits). Government and appropriate measures, including legislative amendments, as 5.3 Exceptions may be necessary, will be taken in due course. Expatriates and persons possessing high or rare skills would not be cover­ SHRi S. R. DAMANI: May I know ed by the ceilings on managerial re­ from the Hon'ble Minister by what muneration. These cases will be de­ time Government would be able to cided on merits. take decision on the Sachar Committee Report some of the recommendations 5.4. Applicability of Revised Guide- such as restriction on inter-cjrporate lijies investment as well as compulsory re­ ference of all cases involving invest­ The revised guidelines will not be ment of over Rs. 3 crorcs to the applicable to the existing managerial MRTP Commission will create inordi- personnel in whose ca^es approval have great deal of uncertainty about new already been accorded, for the remain­ investments coming forth? Secondly, ing duration of their current tenure. reference of all cases involving in­ They will be made applicable to these vestment of over Rs. 3 crores to persons on their reappointment on the MRTP Commission will create inordi­ expiry of their current tenure. nate delays. i would, therefore, like to know what kind of final decision Sachar Committee Recommendations to you are going to take on the recom­ Curb larire Industrial Houses mendations of the Sachar Committee? •34. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO; SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN: I am sorry it is not possible to specify any SHRI AN ANT DAVE: specific time by which Government WiU the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE would be able to take decision on all AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased the various recommendations of the to state: Sachar Conaraittee. I can assure the House that the Government would do (a) what are the recommendations its best to take decision as soon as made by the Rajinder Sachar Com- possible. In respect of the recommen­ mitlee with i«gard to curbing the gro- dations, Government is at present try­ of large industrial houses and re­ ing to identify those recommendations ducing liie concentration of economic which require to be dealt with on an power; urgent basis and take decisions on those recommendations first. But it (b) whether Government have accept­ will try its best to take decision on all ed these recommendations; and the recommendations as early as pos­ sible. (c) if so, what action Government have taken to implement the same? SHRI S. R. DAMANI: I am happj that you are considering all these THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE important points. At what time wiH AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI you announce the Government policy? SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) The recom­ The Sachar Committee has not made mendations made by the Rajindar any recommendation regarding definite 37 Oral Aniwers KARTIKA 30. 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers i 8 limits in respect of managerial pay and not referred to the MRTP Commission. perks but left it to the Government to I would like to knov\- whether pendihg decide in the light of the Boothalingam a study of the recommendations of the Committee recommendations. May I Committee, the Minister will abide by know from the Hon’ble Minister what the present legislative policy and whe­ are the basis he has followed in re­ ther he would as a rule submit all the gard to restricting of the remuneration applications to that impartial body for and perks of the managerial staff? It decision. appears that some of the recommenda­ tions are ambiguous. Whether Gov­ SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN: So far ernment have forced the ceiling as an­ as the recommendations of the Sachar nounced in the guidelines on the sub­ Committee are concerned, as I have ject issued by them and what action already said, they are under considera­ is he t ike to th- loop tion and appropriate decision as to holes? which recommendation should be ac­ cepted 0^^ all recommendations should SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN: Sir, it be accepted or some recommendations is quite true that the Sachar Commit­ should not be accepted, can only be tee by itself did not make any precise taken after the indepth study has been recommendations as to what should be made and the Government at the ap­ the ceilings on the managerial re­ propriate levc/ has taken those deci- muneration. They have made certain sic-r.s. So far as the Government's recommendations namely, that the policy in the meantime is concerned, company should be divided into dilfe- the Government has been following a rent categories and different ceilings policy so far under the framework of may be fixed for different companies the present MRTP Act which gives a falling in different categories. Bhootha- discretion either to refer a particular lingam Committee has gone into this matter to the Commission or if it is question and it is after considering the not considered necessary to refer the recommendations of Bhoothalingam matter to the Commission, to take a Committee that the Government has decision at the Government level, it­ taken the decision and framed the new self. Now, that policy obviously has guidelines lowering the ceilings of to be pursued because till a decision managerial remuneration. Now, so far has been taken on the Sachar Com­ as the question raised by the hon. mittee’s Report, Government will have Member is concerned, that there are to apply its mind to each case and to some ambiguities in the guidelines determine whether it would be worth­ which have been issued recently, if while to send it to the MRTP Com­ the attention of the Government is mission or to take the decision at the drawn to any ambiguity, then in that Government level itself. case the Government would be ready to remove that ambiguity. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: It is very surprising that the discretion SHSa EDUARDO FALEIRO: Sir, which the Minister mentioned has Ctaaiiter 20 of this Report to which the never been exercised in order to refer hon. Minister has made reference in these applications to the MRTP Com­ the context of concentration of econo­ mission. My second question is that mic power, says one thing, that is, since the Minister says that all these ___ but the legisiatlve policy of the matters and the recommendations are Government that before any expansion, under consideration of the Govern­ etc. is allc>wed, the advice of the ment, whether the Minister, while in­ Commission should be obtained, has augurating a seminar on the Report of not by and large been foUowed.’* Out the Rajinder Sachar Committee on of 100 applications, 92 per cent to 93 Companies and MRTP Act organised per cent of the applications for expan­ by Indian Merchant Chamber of Bom­ sion of large industrial houses were bay sometime in the second week of 19 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Oral Answers 20

November, said that some of the recom­ done, then, naturally, I have to make mendations will be required to be imp­ a correct statement, namely, that we lemented quickly that is before the cannot spell out a date. But if the budget Session; and a comprehensive hon. Member would be happy and legislation on the rest of the recom­ satisfied and if I repeat the same state- mendations of the Committee will be ment, I say that shall do our best passed by the next Budget Session of to bring a Bill during the Budget Parliament. Did he make this state­ Session, at least so far as the important ment; imd if he made this statement, recommendations are concerned. I then why did he make a precise would be happy to make that state­ statem(?nt in the Chamber and comes ment. here w\th an evasive reply saying that these r«.‘commendations will be consi­ dered in due course?

SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN; So far “ The salary inclusive of dearness as the statement made by the hon. allowance and all other fixed allow­ Member is cor.Cvrried that never any ances should not exceed Rs. 60,000 per reference has been made to the MRTP annum.” Conamission. I say that this is not correct. We have :nade some referen­ rfr A' ^ t ces to the MRTP Commission also, may be they have been made only recently ^ ^ in the time of the present Government. t, But some references have been made to the MRTP Commission to the best of my recollection. Now so far as this ^ ^ qfnnf ^ f i statement made by me before in a seminar in Bombay is concerned, the ^ j ^ g ^ Press reports are not completely accu­ ^ ^ <<31 ^ ^ H

MR. SPEAKER: I have called Ques­ «ft : fJH irrrftv ift tion No. 24. Whether it is sufficiently ^ 1*

(^) fqr ^R=rrq- W SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: The TT RaiJway Minister is a clever man. Why did he not foresee the amount that he (^) q-f^ ffr has to spend on other things? If he f had foreseen it, at least he would have made it up in some other way. During : (^) the 8 months the Railways have suffer­ (^g-) ^ % i%ffVq’ ed losses. How is it going to make up qfrnrm f ^«rrfq those losses in the remaining four #r ^ TrTf arr ^ mo:iths? # ';?r^?T^rnfV ^T;rr I I ^TPTT t ^ ^ ^ f^'Y q ^ TfM PROF. iVIADHU DANDAVATE: In. Lommg JTFTFrr^ ^ cq-f=T ^ I the months our usual statistics for the last several years indicate that ^sft 5^^ ; JTR?ft?T :ifr, the coming months from October on­ ^ ^ TtTT iTfTT 5|?rrrT irw[ I f?F wards are the best from the point of T?rt 5|^t mT t I ^ view of traffic. We are trying to moni­ iT^fV jfY ^ f^qr t ^ tor our system in such a way that in ^ K ? the coming months our movement will be increased and already the trend has begun in the month of November, (2> sf^o irn 7«qn : ^TT?qTT, ^ We are going to see that with vigorous, VT9T W^rq" ^ ^ ^ ^ ^T^TTsn ^^TPTT efforts we will review the inventories; «TT, ^ ^ arKVt ^ ^niTT^ f ^ we will have better watch on the^ JPTT, ^ ^ ^ Tf fsrP#TTf?7n I working expenses and will make up* 4 ^^TPrr f H ^ snr 19.5 ^ ^nft for the losses so that the surplus can be protected. iVV^gTft qr iiTnlt i ^ ^ ^ Sm ^ ^ 17.5 ^ ^ SHRI P- VENKATASUBBAIAH: is %TPfV I ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ the Minister aware of the fact that ^ r^ ^ f t 7?r# qrr ^rrifr ftr lo the loss to the Railways is mainly due 3|ft tfV I ^ ^ ^ VtJT# to the diminishing of the goods traffic? ^Mryr^i ^ ^ ^ ^ i ^ Is he also aware of the fact that now ^ ^ f f I Tw the people have completely lost con­ ^ ^ ^fPff ^ ^ ^Tdi^nff ^ fidence in safe delivery of the goods ^ w I 2T^ q w r n ^ 3ft m ^ n v ^ Pfnrt?ft by the Railways with the result that wt^fm ^ Tpft’^ %!Yk Ffw— ^ they have taken to trucks and now Jnt^ — #, # ^TRT ^MImM there is a premium of Rs. 17,000 to ^ ^fTT^TT *TfT ’PtVt ^ ^ ^ I q^ Rs. 18,000 on a chasis of a truck? May Hirt ^ TT «rT# ^ ^ ?flT I know whether this fact has been qi[ ?TTTT «rT5TT ^ TK ?TT^ ^ ^ ^ considered by the Minister? If so, rTWT ^ q^ ^TTT ?TFrr ^ I ^ ??WT what steps he is going to take ?t ftp: ?rr?T qr# ^ f ^ ^ to see that the goods are delivered 5ftr ^ ^i> ^tt ^ qr?ff i safely and also in time and restore ^ ft ?qwT I ?TT?r ^ sinfif confidence among the people with re­ ^ 5ET^^fV I gard to sending their goods by rail? Oral Answers ^3 NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Oral Answers 24

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Ge­ loss of railway income was on goods nerally. the inferences drawn by the traffic. Is it i\ fact that due to com­ intelligent hon. Member are not wrong petition by the roadways trucking but in this case, he is completely dis­ business, tiioro has been a loss and illusioned. I think his inferences :ire combined with it, heavy pilferage of very wrong. Firstly, it is wron*^ to goods ha\ j led to this loss? say that those who want 10 ha\c the traffic of various goods and com- MR. SPEAKER: He has already mcxiities, they have lost contidenco in answered that question. the Railways. On the conirary the number of indents on the Railways is growing. In fact, we are not able to Change in System of Railway cope with the requirement. As far as Finance movement is concerned, those who SHRI CTITTTA BASU; Will the want to move their commodities on MiP’ster of HAILWAYS bo pleased to long distance, they always prcfei' bulk £tato: movement through the Raihvay. As far as short distance is converned, (a) whether Government have any they always prefer the movement ^\v specific proposal to bring about any the motor transport. change in the system of Railway finance which has rcmai’ ied uncl'.V)^- SHRI P. VENKATASUPEAIAH: ed ,'^ince 1924: and From my State to Calcutta cjnoc: - are being taken in trucks. (b) if so, essential features of the proposed changes? PROF. MADHU DANDA\'ATE: As far as this point is concerned, on more than one occasion I had clarified THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS that it is not because there is inefTi- (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a. cient conduct of our train movement and (b). An Expert Grcup was cons­ that they are not preferring trains- tituted to go into all ^;spects relating The fact is that during the last one to the Railways' Capital Structure. year the traffic has been largely erra­ The Group has recently submitted its tic and I have already indicated that report which is under the considera­ Formerly^ there were some imports. tion of the Government. Now the imports have completely been stopped. Formerly some foodgrains SHRI CHITTA BASU: It is well were coming to the Bombay Port. known that the surplus created by the Therefore, they were moved to small Railways generally goes to the Gene­ distances by trains. The same is the ral Revenues by way of repayment of trase about Calcutta and Kandla. Now> tax which, according to my estimate, the food imports are stopped. The comes to Rs. 360.68 crores. Now, the entire food movement has been under­ hon. Minister during the Budget taken from Haryana and Punjab to speech has mentioned that he has South and as a result of that the lead under his contemplation to make the has increased. Therefore, our wagons suggestion to the Finance Ministry of are getting locked up for a number of the Government of India to the effect days and that is why, we are not able that the accumulated debts either be to meet the indents that are already written ofl or added to the capital at registered. The very fact that the de­ charge and there is creation of the de­ mand that is put on the wagons is velopment fund so that the increasing more and nve are not able to meet the social burden on the Railways and in­ requirement, shows that there is no creasing demand for new construction lack of confidence in the Railways. of lines can be met. May I know from the hon. Minister whether the Expert SHRI YADVENDRA DUTT: The Committee, as has been mentioned by ^on. Minister has just said that the him in his reply, has considered these 25 Oral Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Ansurers 26 two specific suggestion offered by the Report which is under the considera­ hon. Minister himself? If so, what is tion of the Government. I only want Iho decision of that Expert Committee to know the major recommendation of on these two specific suggestions^ whe­ the Group. I am not asking whether ther they have accepted them or re­ the Government has accepted it or jected them? rejected it, but I think he can reveal to the House the major recommenda­ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: The tion by the Group. asoects to which the hon. Member has made a reference are correct. I my­ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: All self have pointed out that one of our that I can say is that on all the as­ troubles in the railway finances is that pects that he has referred to, the re­ though we are able to mop up subs­ commendations have been given to tantial surplus, the entire surplus is us, but I cannot reveal them. wiped out in repaying past debts which hold to Rs. 368.68 crores as on 1st PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR; Mr. April, 11)78. To give a concrete inst­ S|>eaker. Sir. I do appreciate the point ance. whereas I have projected a sur­ made my friend, the Minister that plus of Rs. 89 crores last year, the the nature and the substance of the actual surplus is Rs. 126.23 crores. But recommendations cannot be rev^ealed because the past debt was of the order at this stage, that he cannot say today of Rs. 3r^8 crores. it is almost utilised whai it contains, and. in fact, I am in rcpj.ving old debts and therefore, not, referring to that aspect of the the Expert Group that was set up was maiior at all. But I hope. Sir, he will given specific terms of reference on recall his own assurance towards the end of his speech during the last all the three aspects to which he has made a reference viz., firstly, the Session on Railway Demands when I question of over-capitalisation, se­ made this point along with many condly, writing off the past debts, others that when the railways make certain surpluses, they should be able thirdly, including the entire past debts as capital at charge and paying a to get moneys for their own develop­ ment. particularly for the new railway dividend of 6 per cent and lastly, lines. At that point of time, the Min­ building up a development fund out ister categorically assured this House of the protected surplus. All these that the matter was already taken up problems were referred to the Expert with the Planning Commission and Group. They have given their find­ the discussions were going on, and if ings. but it is not customary to reveal I remember aright, he also gave us them now and so long as the report some kind of hope that the thing will has not been finally considered by the be settled soon and he will be able to Railway Ministry, I cannot reveal the details about this confidential Report make improvement in the finances of railways so that the past debts from submitted to us. 1924 onwards will be wiped off in a SHRI CHITTA BASU: May I, at large way. May 1 know whether he is this stage, have the assurane from able to tell us now something more the hon. Minister that he would give concrete and purposeful and hopeful the essential features, if possible, of in this direction? the recommendations of this Group? PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Be­ fore I present the next Budget to this MR. SPEAKER: Not before he has House I will be able to give a definite examined. indication as to what has been the final decision in consultation with the SHRI CHITTA BASU: They might Planning Commission and the Finance have recommended something. He Ministry. Also, the recommendations said in. the course of his reply that have to go before the Railway Conven­ the Group has recently submitted its tion Committee which has been ap^ ^7 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Oral Answers 28

pointed by this Parliament and then ed by the Burmah Shell even after only the decisions will be taken. its naticMialisation; SHRI P. M. SA\nEED: Mr. Speaker, (b) whether it is also a fact that Sir, may I knovv from the hon. Minis­ such designation in the case of ter what is the total amount of sus­ Hindustan Petroleum Corporation pense account i’or the year 1978-79 Limited is only re-sellers; and and which are the parties? (Interruptions) (c) if so, whether Government pro­ PROF. MADTIU DANDAVATE; As pose to abolish the designation ‘dis­ far as this financial year is concerned, tributor’ in the Burmah Shell and if already, exoectins that there will be not, the reasons thereof? certain burdens tha!. will be fallinc; on the railways, we always malic a cer­ THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUiVI, tain provision within the budgeted am­ AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ount to see that certain amounts can ZERS 'SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): be adjusted against some of {he addi­ (a) Yes, Sir. tional burdens that will be coming up. And We have already made a provi­ (b) Hindustan Petroleum Corpora­ sion. tion use both the designations of dis­ MR. SPEAKER.: Have you got the tributor and reseller depending upon figure? He wanted to know the am­ the products sold. ount? (Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I (c; It is for Bharat Petroleum Cor­ •will give. The outstandings against poration to decide about changes in traffic suspense (as on 31st March, such designations depending upon the 1978) are of the order of 125.51 crores. necessity for such changes. (Interruptions) SHRI : I would Uke SHRI P. M. SAYEED: What I ask- to know whether the hon. Minister «d was, who are the parties from will ask the BPC to abolish distribu­ whom the amounts are due. torship to eliminate intermediary in­ (Interruptions) terest. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Don’t record. SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: Tho eli­ (Interruptions)^* mination will not fulfil the purpose in­ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I tended by the Member. will require a separate notice to give that. MR. SPEAKER: Whether the name MR. SPEAKER: Question No. 26. should be distributor or re-seller—I do not know how the question was Retention of Desi^^rnation of 'Distribu­ allowed. tor’ b y Burmah Shell SHRI PIUS TIRKEY: I would like' •26. SHRI PIUS TIRKEY: to know whether the officials of BPC SHRI SHY AM SUNDER have maintained the distributorship GUPTA: to give undue favour to a particular firm. If so, what action the hon. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, Minister proposes to take against such CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be corrupt officials. pleased ta s^ate: (a) whether it is a fact that the MR. SPEAKER: It does not arise designation ‘distributor* is still retain­ from the main question.

♦•Not recorded. 2 9 Oral Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers 30

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: I am ^ ^ sorry. This is an assumption. If any specific case is made out, I will cer­ »T^, +P : House as to whether the Government knows that there is rampant corrup­ (i\) to (c). A statement giving the tion prevalent in all such corpora­ required information is laid on the tions. . or the :l(juse.

MR. SPEAKER: Thai does not Statement arise. (a; Dur-n[^ January—June^ 1978 the production of Nitrogen in the follow­ SHRI SHYAM SUNDER GUPTA: ing public soi'.’'or fertiliser factories The question has not been drafted was lower co]v,pared to the produc­ properly. The question was about in­ tion during the corresponding period termediary interest, that is what was in 1977: — meant. 1 would like to know whether the Government knows that there is 1. Sindri rampant corruption in these corpora­ Namrup tions. What are the steps the Govern­ ment proposes to take to eliminate 3. Durgapur corruption? 4. Barauni 5. Trombay MR. SPEAKER: The question asked 6. Nangal was whether the name was ‘distribu­ tor’ or ‘re-seller*. This question should 7. Cochin not have been allowed. Anyway it 8. Rourkela has been done. The only fertilizer factory where there was a light shortfall in produc­ SHRI SHYAM SUNDER GUPTA: tion of phosphate was Trombay. The question was about intermediary interest. The shortfall in production was ge­ nerally due to a variety of reasons such as power interruptions, labour prob­ lems, mechanical break-downs and planned shut downs for carr^dng out * 27 , ^ Tm modification^-.

19 78 i 2 1 9 8 $ (b) The production of nitrogen and phosphatic fertilizers in the different fr»TT :— factories during January, 1978 to Oc­ tober, 1978 v is-a -v is the same period (^ ) ^FTT^TFff $ «Tnr ^ fsnr^ ^ in 1977 is given in Annexure I. ^ f ; (c) The shortfall in production dur­ (^) ing January—October, 1978 was also mainly due to the reasons given in ^ 1 9 7 8 the answer to part (a) of the Ques­ 31 1 9 7 8 ^ ^ 1 9 7 7 ^ ^ ^ 5?RT # tion. Many of these shortfalls arise from factors over which Management has little control and so the question {^) ^ ^ of taking any action against the ma­ < JTinr # v A r t %mx nagement does not arise. Govermnent •1% ^ ftut v c v m m ( o t v m p n ingw^ is, keeping a close watch on the 31 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1976 Oral Answers formance of all the fertilizer units organisation of FCl and National Fer* and steps are being taken, wherever tilizers Ltd. into five companies and necessary, to remedy defects and to the decision to provide captive power improve production. The major steps facility wherever necessary. taken in the recent past include re­

ANNEXURE I

{k) Production of Nitrogen and Phofphate during Jan-Oct., 1977 and Jan.-Octobcr, 1978.

(i) Mitrpgen (000 tonnes)

Public Sector Jan. 77- Jon. 78- Oct. 77 Oct. 78

Sindri 14*5 0*2 Gorakhpur 71-0 77-3 Namrup 31-7 Namrup Exp. 43*4 49* 7 Durgapur . 6o*o i6- 4 Barauni 28-8 29*3 Trombay . 73*0 69*7 Trombay I\’ 10-4 Nan gal 51*8 53-B N ilgai Expansion 23*9 Bhatinda . Panipat Udyot»amandal . 41-0 42*3 Cochin I *1 1 73*4 75-4 Roiirkcla . 63*8 58-5 Neyveli 39-6 39*9 Madras . ii6-8 129*1 By-prndjacLs. 17*7 17*0

T o t a l ( A ) . 734-6 725-6

(B) Private Sector

Varanasi . 3-9 4 3

Ennorc 7-1 6*9

Baroda i3«-5 199*3

Viaa

Kota 99-4 81 7

Kanpur >60*0 153*8

Goa 125*0 I2f2

Tuticorin . 124*8 i«8-7

Mangalarc 6x-3 8H*6

B/products 38 ••3

T o t a l (B) . 7« 9-4

f-yr 33 Oral Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Anm ert 34

(A) Public Sector Jan. 77- Jan. 78- Oct. 77 Oct. 78

(C) Co-operatiw Sector

IFFGO i 66-9 183*9

G. T o t a l (A f-B-}-C) 1670*9 i666*3

(2) Phosphate

i\) Puhlic SecVtr

Trombay . 33-6 30-6

Trombay IV 10*2

Udvofifamandal 23*8 22.6

Gochio n 19*0 319 Madras 73-2 9*3

Sindri •• l-I

Khctri - 4-4

S. S. P. Units. . n *5 >3*9

T o t a l (A) i6o* I 2o6 * o

(B) Privata Sector Ennorr 8-8 8*8

Baroda 1T1 29*1 Viza? 6o-i 52-7 Goa 26* I 25*5 Tnticorin 7*6 24*6

S. S. P. ITaits iog-2 i i 6 *4

T o t a l (B) 239.5 257.1

(G) Co-operative Sector

IFFGO i i 8*9 147-3

Grand T o t a l (A |-B f G) . 5>8-5 6 i o *4

TPR WTirawpflr : ^ fiPTT ’ TJIT ^ I ^l|t 'iC f ift ftrr'T ^ fST t, ft?5 ?r ST!^ 5*TT I I 'JWIg^ TTjWm ^ n ^ ftwTiiT niiT t ^ »n .5R WT^ ^ ? wr t I 71 # 77,000 S!T ?*rr ^ 1 ^ \ ^STPTTT g 5’tf'iT ? ^ f>K®i firveft ^ VTTW ^ I «pV ^ a?mg«i f viff wrf t I nfV srm ^ ^ ifV *rrf I ^ »f fint^ ^ ^ftr 59 ^ ^ lit ^jwrer it TO ?nft ^ ^fiT»r v»ft «rrf 1977 , 1978 ^ *r»ftr t 1 # f WT f I 3^TfT«r ^ f%tr ^ PT ^ #3T ? «f)w t <»K

SHRI H. N. BA^HUGUNA: It is not SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: So far correct to say that IFFC is making a there has never been any complaint profit and others are making losses of a general nature involving all because of some luxuriant expendi­ the factories, charging them with ture made by them. The hard fact is inefficiency? There is even an Hon. that, fortunately, IFFC has been, wise Committee of this House, on Public in its choice of technology, equipment, Undertakings, as a watch-dog of this etc. while some of the public sector House, to say what it has to with factories fell into some other wrong regard to the efficiency or inefficiency track. Therefore, there has been los.s of the Management. I am not neither of production in those factories com­ trying to hide nor trying to bolster pared to the capacity established and up anybody on this country. All that therefore, the pricing pattern or pro- I would like to say is that there is fitability has been different with re­ nothing of the type, of a general, na­ gard to TFPC and the other factories. ture. Specific cases of failure of admi­ But, in the totality of it, all fertilizers nistration. are always taken note of. 37 Oral Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers 38

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE;: If offshore concession off the Orissa the answer is ‘Yes’, I want a clari­ coast and 68 km. area on-shore in fication from him. The question of Mahanadi Basin; taking action against the management does not arise...... (interruptions). (b) if so, whether the company has MR. SPEAKER: No, no. Mr. Ravi. concluded negotiation's for driiiing contracts with foreign firms and hafi SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Certain left the final selection of the party to fertiliser units continue to be sick Government; and for the last many years. The hon’ble Minister is aware of the FACT as well (c) if so, whether its plan is al3o to as the Cochin Plant and naturally the set up own data processing facilities production has not improved so far. at Paradeep in Orissa for its on-shore But the price of fertiliser will increase. concession and if so, the details The farmers will be affected by this thereof? increase in price. Again this increase in fertiliser price will further in­ crease the agricultural produce. Ulti­ HHE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM mately the consumers will be affected. and CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZ­ It is a chain reaction. I would like ERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) to know from the hon. Minister what Oil India Limited has been awarded concrete steps are taken to improve concession for oil exploration in Ma­ hanadi Delta over an area of 6800 sq. the production of these factories— kilometres on-short and 12,000 sq. FACT as well as Cochin Plant—not kilometres ofT-shore. The company only in regard to machinery but ma­ proposes to c^ry out exploratory dril­ nagerial also. ling in the off-shore area. SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: I am happy to see that Cochin Plant has (b) Oil India Limited has received started looking up and many defects a number of offers from drilling con­ have been removed. Technical defects tractors/firms which are in the pro­ have been identified and removed and cess of being evaluated. Cochin Plant has started looking up and we expect it to be performing much better than it was berore. So (c) The company proposes to set far as the Udyog Mandal is concerned up its data processing facility at Du- FACT is concerned, we have a prob­ liajan jn Assam. lem in this age of the plants in FACT. The plant has aged and it will require SHRI SARAT KAR: While thank­ renovation, expansion and diversifica­ ing the Government that it has been tion and all those points are under decided to explore the off-shore and consideration. on-shore area of Orissa coast, I would Contracts for Off-Shore DrilUni: point out that the answer given by the hon. Minister is not specific. The question was specific. Part Ob) of the •28. s m il SARAT KAR: question states: ‘i f so, whether the SHRI AINTHU SAHOO: company has concluded negotiations for drilling contracts with foreign Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, firms and has left the final selection CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be of the party to Government?” I pleased to state: would like to know whether the fin­ (a) whether Oil India or ONGC alised evaluation is at the end of the have sought clearance from Govern­ Ministry or at the end of the company ment for awarding coiitracts for dril­ so that the drilling work can start ling work in its 12,000 square km. earlier. 39 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Oral Armoers 40

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: I have shore is one such area and we expect already replied that they have re­ oil there imless luck decides it other­ ceived a number of contracts for wise. drilling work. They are being proces­ sed and they are being evaluated by the company. They will process them I 20 ^ and come to Government for flnalisa- ^ ^ VT tiim. t I ^ ^ ^ m m r ^ iro htt ^ ^ ^ SHRi SARAT KAR: Whether there is a time-bound programme before ^ ^ ^ 5FT vft the company so that the work could irsm ^ I ^ ^ ^ start immediately. You have already answ^ed that Data Processing Unit ^ i irnr will be in Assam. It will be a far off H vnF-iftx ^ place from Orissa. It is not conveni­ ent for them to do the data processing ^ HVcTF ^ I from such a long distance. Whether the Minister can propose that it can be set up in Orissa? ^ I, t ^ ?r?T flTW*TT| ?ft SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: So far V m I I as the first part is concerned, not a day will be last in doing the thing and the oil India are doing it, as Criteria for Railway Elecriflcation far as we can say, very efficiently. There will not be a day lost in com­ •29. SHRl O. V. ALAGESAN: Will pleting the evaluation. So far as the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased the Government is concerned, we will to state: take the earliest possible decision in the matter. So far as the question of (a) the criteria generally followed locating the data processing units is for taking up schemes of electrifica­ concerned, it is for Oil India to de­ tion on Railways; and cide and they decided to do it in As­ sam. I do not want to withdraw it (b) the schemes of electrification so far as their area of operation is proposed to be taken up in the Sixth concerned, that is, Assam. Plan aVid their estimated cost?

DR. SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN The Minister, Mr. Bahuguna, is very THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS clever. I would like to know whether (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Electri­ this contract is part of a general plan fication requires large initial invest­ to make India self-sufficient in oil. I ment and is justified economically on would also like to know what is the sections carrying high densities of basis for selecting this particular con­ traffic which cannot be managed with tract; whether the Minister is aware steam traction and where electric that Indian Ocean is a vast reservoir {raction is cheaper than dieselisation. of oil; whether he has a long range plan for drilling oil and making India (b) New electrification programme self-sufficient in oil. during the Sixth Plan has not yet been finalised. SHRI IH*. N. BAHUGUNA: Though the question is a wide one, but it is SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: Tt per­ admitted that there are Tot of areas tains to the southern region. If this is in the Indian Ocean where oil is ex­ the criterion; if it is honestly followed, pected to be available. Mahanadi off­ Oral Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 42 namely, sections carrying high densi- Kirandul—4.61 k.m. (150 k.m. com­ lies ol traffic which cannot be man­ pleted) ; Madras-Vijayavada---433 aged with steam traction and where k.m. (270 k.m. completed). I may electric traction is cheaper, then it further inform the hon. Member that should appear that the southern re­ electrification of the first line will be gion does not qualiiy at ail ior elec- completed by 1980-81 and that of the irilication. It ioolts as though this con- second one by 1979-80. Electrification ailion does not exist in the southern of the Madras-Tiruvallur line, 42 kLm. region and so it does not qualify lor will be completed by 1979-80. it at all. Then there is another criter­ ion which is very relevant. You know SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: I am mat ine southern region is farthest grateful for the information, but I Irom the coal field; and I may tell may tell the hon. Minister that origi­ >'0u that coai in the southern region nally it was Madras-Arkonam. The costs Ks. 160 per tonne while it costs proposal was taken up in the Fourth unly Rs. UO per tonne in the eastern Pli,n, but it was truncated to region. The tariff for railway traction Madras-tiruvallur. As he said, the is very much low in Southern grids electrification of the Madras-Tiruval- cunipared to Northern States. I may lur section is about to be completed. also inform you that Madras-ViUu- Tiruvallur to Arkonam is only 17 purani electrification has paid itself miles. So, will the hon. Minister give within six years. So, v^hen all these me an assurance that electrification ^actors are present, how is it that from Tiruvallur to Arkonam, which is you are not taking up this thing in my constituency, will be taken up as the southern region? Why I am ask­ soon as this is over, and completed? ing this question is because 1 have PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I got an apprehension that there is not have already mentioned the schemes going to be any electrification being which are in progress in the south and taken up in the southern region at their target dates. As far as the other all during the Sixth Plan. scheme is concerned... MR. SPEAKER; Please come to the S0B1 O. V. ALAGESAN: It is not question, another scheme. It is a continuation. SHRi O. V. ALAGESAN: Is it true PROF. MADHU DANDAVATEi: It that all electrification proposals have is the second phase of the scheme. been accepted except Madras-Gun- takkal-Hospet, Arponam-Erode-Jalar- Since the hon. Member has said pet and Jalarpet-Bangalore sections? that it is part of his constituency, how That is my information, I do not know can I be uncharitable and say that whether it is correct or not. In fram­ we will not consider it? We will take ing the proposals for electrification, it into account when the resources are available. would you see that the southern re­ gion is not left high and dry, and that its needs are also satisfied? WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS

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Supply of Coal to N e e d y Centres (b) if SO, what are the terms of merger agreed upon by both the *^31. SHRI P. THIAGARAJAN: WiU units; the Minister ol RAILWAYS be pleased to state; Ccj whether the Indian Metal and Ferro-Alloys Company is a private (a) wliat is the pr23ent posiLion of concern, and if so, what is the name tiie controversy between Railways of the business group which owns it; and Energy Ministries regarding tlK* and inadequate supply coal to needy centres; and (d) the circumstances utider which (b) the specific improvements effect­ this merger was agreed upon? ed in the working of Railways su as to achieve a quicker turn round for THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE transport of coal? AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHANj: (a; and (b) THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Approval has been granted by the kPROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) Central Government on 29-5-1978 I here has been no controversy between under Section 372(4) of the Com­ the Railway and the Engery Ministries panies Act to M/s. Indian Metal and on supply of coal to needy centres. Ferro Alloys Limited to purchase bulk Close co-ordination exists between the of the equity shares of M/s. Kalinga two Ministries. 'i'ubes Limited comprising of 1 lakh (b) Movement of coal to bulk con­ equity shares of Rs. 100 each. Under sumers is being arranged in full train the terms of the approval, the invest­ loads and a day-to-day monitoring ing company has to offer to buy the iirrangement has been made to ex­ shares of all the shareholders of M/s. pedite movement and release of Kalinga Tubes Limited and the com­ wagons as well as for meeting the needs pany has intimated that accordingly ol needy consumers by diversions 66,556 shares had been bought upto whenever necessary. 8-9-1978. The offer to buy the rest of the shares is open upto 30-11-1978. There appears to be no proposal for Take-over of the Kaling^a Tubes merger of the two companies. Limited by the Indian Metal and Ferro Alloys Company (c) M/s. Indian Metal and Ferro *32. SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Alloys Limited is a Public Limited Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE company and does not appear to a n d c o m p a n y AFFAIRS be pleased belong to any group registered or to state: registrable under M.R.T.P. Act, 1969. (a) whether Kalinga Tubes Limited (d) There appears to be no proposal has been taken over by the Indian lor merger of the two companies, as Metal and Ferro ADoys Company; mentioned above. 47 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 48

Redn otlon In Voting Age ancillary and down stream industries. The Expert Committee had, inter-alia, •33. SHBI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: considered the views of such experts Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE as Prof. T. Shivaji Rao and Dr. Salim AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased All also, while arriving at its con­ to state: clusions. The report of the com­ mittee, which was placed in both the (a) whether Government have taken Iljuses of Parliament on 14-8-1978, t final decision to reduce the vctiug is presently under consideration of age to 18; and Government. (b) if so, the details thereof? Manufacture of Bulk Drugs THE MINISTER OF LAW. JUSTICE ♦36. SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARY- AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI YA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) No, Sir. CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS re pleased to lay a statement show­ (b) Does not arise. ing:

Dmnger lo Taj by Mathura Refinery (a) whether Government have drawn up a list of 40 bulk drug3 ♦35. SHRI DHARMAVIR VASISHT: which would be exclusively reserved Wm the Minister of PETROLEUM, for manufacture or expansion in the CHEMICALS AND FERTIUZERS be public sector drug units; pleased to state: (b) if so, the names of those drugs; (a) whether Government have noted a PTI Report dated 26th October, (c) whether a separate list of a^out 1978, giving the views of Prof. T. 42 bulk drugs has also been prepared Shivaji Rao of the Department of which would be kept ‘open* for pur­ Environmental Engineering, Andhra poses of licensing for any of the University and of Dr. Michael Rovston sectors; and of the Centre for Environmental (d) if so, the names of those drugs? Education, Geneva, warning that the Mathura Refinery may cause cancer THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM to the Taj and the people living near­ AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILl- by; and 2ERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (b) if so, the steps taken to meet (a) to (d). Indicative lists of the lines the situation? of production for the Public Sector and Indian Sector as well as ox>en to all Sectors have already been given in THE m i n i s t e r OF PETROLUEM- the statement on the new Drug Policy, AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA);: tabled in the Lok Sabha on 29th March, 1978. (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) In view of the apprehensions Alleppey-EmakuUm Railway Line raised in various quarters about the *37. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: possible adverse environmental impact of the Mathura Refinery, the Govern­ SHRI K. A. RAJU: ment appointed an Expert Committee WiU the Minister of RAILWAYS be in July, 1974 to advise the Project pleased to state: Authorities on the measures to be token for keeping the pollution effects (a) whether any decision has been of the Miithura Refinery to the absolute taken by Government on the proposal minimum, and the Ministry of Petro­ to eonstri^ct the AJl^ppey-EmakuXam leum on the pollution aspects at other Railway line; 49 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 50

(b) whether Government's atteti- Change over to Higher Horse Power tion has been drawn to a series of Locomotives agitations being chalked out by the people of Kerala to press their de­ *39. DR. MURLI MANOHAR mand for this Railway line; and JOSHI:

(c) what are the details and Gov­ SHRI VASANT SATHE: ernment’s reaction thereto? Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (a) whether Government hav» (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) taken a decision on the changeover to to (c). Government are aware of the higher horse power locomotives; feelings of the people of Kerala in this matter. The proposal is under con­ (b) whether the World Bank has sideration of the Government in con­ ovtered financial assistance for the sultation with the Planning Com­ initial purchase and manufacture of mission. such engines, and, if so, the details of the World Bank offer; and (c) the reaction of Government thereto? irr THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS *38. ift JRTRf ^ (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) and (b). No, Sir.

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Pesticide Plant in Andhra Pradesh

201. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, 1 9 7 5- 7 (S 964 2,98,74,675 AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ 1976-77 7 8 0 2,77,73,852 ZERS be pleased to state: 19 7 7-78 866 3,63,94,0 1 7 (a) whether Government have de­ cided to set UD a Pesticide Plant m Andhra Pradesh; and n rf^ , »TTffifl % ^ ?T^«rcT (b) if so, its location, total expen­ ^ 5Tfir ht«tt diture and total production capacity? ^ ^pFT ^

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204. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will the (^t) frn ^ 'TT mftifi Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: ^ t I

(a) whether Government have abandoned the new rail projects in Estimated cost of Korba Fertiliaer the Western parts of the country; and Project (b) if so, the reasons thereof^ 206. SHRI S. R. REDDY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TffE CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS CSHRI to state: SHEO NARAIN): (a) No. The foUow- ing schemes for construction of new (a) what is the revised estimated lines in the Western Region (Gujarat cost of the Korba Fertilizer Project; and Maharashtra) are in hand: and 1. New line from Diva to Bassein (b) what steps are being taken to provide adequate funds for the Pro­ 2. New line from Wani to Chanaka ject and the progress thereon? 55 Written Answert NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Anmera 56

THE MINISTER OF PETROLUEM (b) if so, whether any recommen­ AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ dations both for its rationalisation and ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGXJNA); for making the Railways financially (a) and (b). Korba was taken \ip lor viable )\ave been made; and implementation as a coal-based ferti­ lizer project. It was slowed down in (c) if not, when the said Coznmlttee the middle of 1974 due to resources is likely to finish its work? constraint. I>ater, it was decided that further implementation of the project THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE as well as setting up additional MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI capacity based on coal as feedstock SHEO NARAIN): (a) The Rail Tariff should be considered after experience Enquiry Committee, headed by Dr. became available of the operation oi H. K. Paranjape, has commenced the two coal based plants under study of the railway freight and fare erection at Talcher and Ramagundam, structure. which are expected to commence com­ mercial production in July, 1979. The (b) The Conmiittee has not sub­ question of revising the cost estimates mitted any report to the Government will arise only at this stage. so far.

(c) Final report is required to be Non-clearance Consis;nment9 from submitted by September, 1979. Northem Bailway Goods Sheds

207. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- Distribution of Domestic Gas iNAN: WiU the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: 209. SHRi RAMCHANDRAN KADNNAPPALLI: (a) whether it is a fact that a num­ SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: ber of consignments are lying in the fiooda sheds of Northem Railway Will the Minister of PETROLEUM. awaiting clearance; CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be (b) if so, what are the details and pleased to state: reasons for not taking the consign­ ;a) whether Government have de­ ments by consignees; and cided that the distribuition of domestic (c) what steps are being taken for gas would continue to be through the their clearance? companies appointed agents; (b) if so, the main reasons for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE continuing the same; and MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) to (c). The in- (c) whether it has been brought to formation is being collected and will the notice of Government that great be laid on the table of the House. harassment is bein^ made by these agents to the consumers and what steps are being taken in this regard? Expert Committ^ on Railway Freight and Fare Structure THE MINISTER OF PETROLUEM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ 208. SHRI KUMARI ANANTHAN: ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA);: WiU the Minister of RAILWAYS be (a) and (b) . Except in respect of pleased to state: Hindustan Petroleum Corporation who (a) whether the Expert Committee sell a large part of the cooking gas headed by Dr. H. K. Paranjape has produced in their refineries through commenced its study of the present concessionaires, it has been the com­ freight and fare s^tructure of the mercial practice in the oil industry Indian Railways; I to distribute cooking gas like other 57 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1000 iSAKA) Written Answers 58 petroleum products through distribu­ t h e m in is t e r o f ^ t a t e in tors appointed by oil companies. This THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS system is satisfactory and there is no (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) and proposal to change it, (b ). For the convenience of passengers adequate facilities are provided at (c) Any consumer complaints Shahdara station. Further improve­ received by the oil companies are look­ ments/remodelling O f this station is ed into tor taking possible and neces­ being considered along with the Shah- sary remedial action. Complaints are dara-Saharanpur B. G. Line, under largely due to delay in refill supplies construction. caused by occasional reduced supply of the product due to a number of (c) Not at present. factors like reduced crude throughput (d) Does not arise. ni the refineries, transport bottle­ necks, etc. Abolishing Middlemen between Gov­ ernment owned Petimlleum Comp­ anies and Consumers 210« ^ 212. SHRI P. M. SAYEED:

SHRI A. R. BADRI 5?r % ^ ^ ^ irf «it, P=nTHvT4 «nrt ^ NARAYAN: ^ \ v\Ti qft Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, | ? CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state^

^ ifBTFm ^ ftfTW (a) whether Government are con­ ^Tnnr) : ^ fW ft % ^nj- sidering abolishing the middlemen m x ^qfr/PT^ % sn=^ between the Government owned pet­ fi=nTf”r % ^?rnT^ VT w n f^HTT % roleum companies and the consumers; .^rflpT, Tm ^5Rvr/^ttv srrfti^r?^ 5RT t I (b) if so, to what extent they have 5^ % PhtWt been eliminatad; % firtr ^nrt x^-aM ^ ^ 5?T^ ^ t I (c) whether Government have also taken a number of steps to ease the supply of cooking gas distribution; and Shahdara Railway Station (d) if so, the details of the steps 211. SHRI KISHORE LAL: Will the taken? Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ (a) is there any plan to modernise ZERS ('SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): Shahdara (Delhi) Railway Station (a) and (b). In line with commercial and provide certain facilities such as practice of Oil Industry which has proper sheds, sitting arrangements for been working satisfactorily, distribu­ passengers, cold drinking water, etc. tion of cooking gas like other petro­ (b) if so, how much time it will leum products is made through the take; distributors in the case of Indian Oil Corporation and Bharat Petroleum (c) is there also a plan to start Corporation. However^ in the case of certain new trains from this station; Hindustan Petroleum Corporation this and product is marketed mostly through (d) if so, when? their Concessionaries in terms of 59 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 6o agreements which the erstwhile fore­ (2) Koyali Catalytic Cracker. ign oil companies had entered into be­ Unit, and fore their takeover. Steps have been initiated to terminate agreements (3) Mathura Refinery. with these Concessionaries after which arrangements for marketing of LPG can be made directly through the dis­ New Railway Lines in Karnataka tributors of HPC, as is now done in case of IOC and BPC. 213. SHRI JANARDHANA POOJA- RY: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS There is no proposal to change the be pleased to state; system of distribution of cooking gas through the distributors appointed by (a) whether any survey has been the Oil companies. conducted for laying new lines in (c) and (d). While all efforts are Karnataka State; and made to supply cooking gas to the existing customers, demand of dome­ (b) if so, the details in this regard? stic gas is at present much more than its availability in the country. The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN supply position will substantially im­ THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS prove from 1980 onwards when addi­ (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) and (b). tional LPG will become available with Surveys for the following new rail­ the commissioning of: way lines falling wholly/partly in Karnataka State have been completed, (1) Fractionating Unit of Bombay and the present position thereof is in- High Associated Gas. (lir-ated below: —

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(*) WT wm 5^ % Changes proposed In the Hathl Oom- T t, ^ 1 9 6 J mittee R ^rt 1978 # tl«5'lfir JTWTT ^ ZERS be pleased to state: t w f5^ ^ jrefinr ^ ^ jm r (a) how many changes Government •Rhrf^mt iT^ jfrat f ; proposed in Hathi Committee Report On the 2&th March, 1978; ( b ) w § t^snmPTcm fi>5r r«?uifl1 ^ trr^pT f w ^ ? (b) how many changes Government ^ « ^ fT T iftr T»T»r: trsj'Tf^ 'R’F (c) in how many cases because of r ’

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CkttTtavlon. 0f Sainastiiiiir-Banibaiiki (c) if so, for how long such cases are pending and reasons therefor and when it wUl be finalised? 218. SHRI GANGADHAR APPA BURANDE: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (a) whether the Minister is aware (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Requests that while the metre gauge line from for mutual tranfers are considered Samastipur to Barabanki is now un­ sympathetically. The employees con­ der the process of conversion to broad cerned either retain their own senio­ gauge, the dead-end branch line sec­ rity or take the seniority of the other tions have been omitted from such in the new seniority unit to which conversion to broad gauge; and they are posted, whichever is lower. In cases where change of category is (b) if so, the reasons thereof? involved, they however rank juniop- most to all the permanent and offi­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ciating employees on the date of their THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS joining the new unit. (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) and (b) Yes; the following three metre gauge branch lines would get isolated with (b) Yes. the completion of the gauge conver­ sion work on Barabanki-Samastipur (c) The cases pending range from 1 project: month to 12 months. The reasons for the delay in finalising these cases are (1) Sonpur-Palezaghat non-receipt of service particular/do­ (2) Duraunda-Maharajganj cuments from other units where emp­ loyees concerned are working and (3) Mankapur-Katra clearance regarding D.A.R./Vigi- lance/SPE cases. It may take about 3 Mixed metre and broad gauge have months to finalise these cases after already been provided on Sonpur- observing the requisite formalities. Palezaghat line. Gauge conversion of Duraunda-Maharajganj line (length 6.84 Kms.) ig not considered justified as the area is well served by road. Multinationals Producing^ Antibiotics A Premliminary engineering-cum- traffic survey for gauge conversion of Mankapur-Katra line is in progress 220. SHRI AHMED M. PATEL: Will and a decision will be taken after its the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ completion. CALS AND FERTILIZERS be plea­ sed to state:

Rules Governing Mutual Transfers (a) the names of the multinational 219. SHRI A. MURUGESAN: Will companies which are producing anti­ the Minister of RAILWAYS be plea­ biotics; sed to state: (a) what is the rule and procedure (b) whether it is a fact that certain the Railway Department is following companies have increased the prices of in the case of mutual transfers; antibiotics; and (b) is there any such case pending (c) if so, what are the names of in Southern Railway particularly in these companies and the action taken Madras and Madurai Division; and by Government in this regard? 67 Written Answer, NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 68

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM releases of canalised bulk drugs made AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ by IDPL and CPC to M /s Pfizer, San- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): doz, Hoechst and Abbott during (a) The following multinational com­ 1975-76, 1976-77 and 1977-78 is at­ panies manufacture antibiotics (bulk tached. Similar data for the year drugs) in the coimtry: — 1973-74 and 1974-75 is being collected 1. M/s. Cyanamid and will be laid on the Table of the House. 2. M /s, May and Baker Ltd. 3. M/s. Parke Davis All these companies are DGTD 4. M /s. Pilfizer units. Salient features of the policy regarding distribution of canalised (b) and (c). No instance of charging bulk drugs to DGTD units have al­ o f price higher than that approved for ready been indicated in reply to Lok antibiotics under Drugs (Price Cont­ Sabha Unstarred Question No. 1354 rol) Order, 1970, by the multinational answered on 25.7.78 companies has come to the notice of Government. The releases of canalised bulk drugs to DGTD units were not in the past Release of Bulk Drugs to M /s Pfizer, linked to requirements as per licensed Sandoz, Hoechst and Abbott capacities for individual formulations 221. SHRI MOTIBHAI R. CHAU- being produced by them but were, on DHARY: Will the Minister of PETRO- the other hand, linked to best of pre­ LEUM, CHEMICALS AND FELTTLI- vious two year’s consumption of indi- ZERS be pleased to state; vidudal bulk drugs. This explains as to how releases of canalised bulk (a) how the release of canalised drugs to some DGTD units would bulk drugs to Messrs. Pfizer, Sandoz, show a growing trend. Koechst and Abbott has ^rowii during the past five years; One of the bottlenecks in linking (b) full justification including, po­ the releases of canaliscd raw mate­ rials to the licensed capacities of indi­ licy and provision under which they vidual unit is that in most rases, the were released; and licences issued in favour of drug units (c) facts of increases may be given? under the I (D&R) Act, 1951 do not indicate formulation-wise capacities. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM It should be possible to overcome this, AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ once consolidated industrial licences ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): are issued in favour of all the units (a) to (c). A statement showing the in terms of the new drug policy.

Statement

(Figs in Kgs)

Qiy released in Name of the company Carali*cd bullc dn c i975-7f' 1&76-77 »P77-7f' 3 4 5 5 CPC items M /s Hocchst Pharmaceutical Chlorcquin Phosphate . 230 175 Ltd. Prcnylamine Laciate 170 435 435 Prednisolone . 195 Vitamin B6 . 65 170 Cadcinc ^>45 Chloramphenicol Pcvdci N.A. si:-7 i5 69 WHUen Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 iSAKA) WriUen Answers 70

ID PL I urns,

Tctracycline Hcl . 14710 141 to i4iCo Ictracyclinc Base 745 ICCO ICCO Streptomycin Sulphate 5^25 Vit. Bi oral . C6 fcG 140 AnaUin 125CC0 i:£9-}o Vit. B2 22 30 70

M/s Sandoz (I) Ltd CPC Item.

Chloroqain Pho^^phate . 185 100 100 Vit. B6 . . . . 240 200 20 Cafleine...... 520 Chloramphenicol Powder N.A. 900 1875 Chloramphenicol Palmiiate 250 2^5 165 Vit. ‘C’ Plain . . 3465 3720 4725 Vit. ‘C’ Coated . . 2340 2940 385

IDPL Items

Tetracycline Hcl 3235 3C50 3C50 Vit. Bi Mono. 215 410 460 Folic Acid 3B.7 49-5 48 Vit. B2 59 112 16.0 Phenobarbitone 1312 1975 *975 Aniidopyrine . 8c;o 1C50 (upto III quarter) Tctracycline Base . c,co 1250

M/s Ffizer Ltd. IDPL Ilnii’,.

Streptomycin . 27605 I2CC0 2CC0 Suli)!'atc Sulphadimidine. 1 IC 5,0 n 150 iccco Piperazine Hexahydrate 5c to 131^5 Oxyttnracvcline Hcl 5CC0 V itamin Bi Hcl 150 \'iiamin Bi Amp. . i2g 100 50 Vitamin Bi Mono. 5579 6124 E8co Vitamin B2 . 2736 2998 3550

Folic Acid 226 236 250 Vitamin B2-5-Phos ?3

CPC Items Vitamin B6 . 1205 8Po 1505 Chlorociuin Phosphate 4^5 550 775 Calcium-D-Pantothenate 3175 3445 ^^€21 D-Panthenol . 80 7« 75 Vitamin C 40575 45430 Citric Acid . worth Rs. worth Rs *40337 *34778 Tartaric Acid. worth Rs. worth Rs. worth Rs. •37905 ♦11070 39273 Prednisolone . 265 203.5

♦Qjiantity released against ‘Release Orders’ within theii valves. 7t Written Antweft NOVEMBER 21. 1978 Written An$wer$ 7%

M/s Abbott IDPL Item s

Vit. Bi Amp. 500 501 600 Bi M jno 600 1702 2000 Vit. B^ 324 810 1000 B2-5-Pao' Sod. 85 Folic Acid 21.5 43-3 20

CPC Items

E v^hro-.n/cin Ethvl Sacc 1580 995 370 Stearate inate 8260 4830

Survey for Double Line Vizaya- the availability of feed stock, infra­ nagaram to Titlagarh structure facilities; proximity to the market and demand of fertilizer in 222. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: the economic marketing zone which WiU the Minister of RAILWAYS are required for the location of a pleased to state: fertilizer project have been studied in (a) whether the survey for double respect of setting up of a plant in line from Vizayanagaram to Titlagarh Himachal Pradesh; of S.E. Railway has been completed; (b) if so, what are the details (b) if so, when the construction of thereof: lines are proposed to be taken up; and (c) if not, what are the reasons (c) the amount provided for the therefor; same for the year 1978-79? (d) whether the State Govern­ ment have sent any demand to the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Central Government for setting up a MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Fertilizer Project in Himacha) Pra­ SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. desh; and (b) The survey reveals that there is (e) if so, whataction has been no immediate necessity to undertake +aken thereon? any doubling work on this section.

(c) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) Setting up of Fertilizer Project in Himachal Pradesh to (c). A Working Group on Fertili­ zers was set up by the Planning Com­ 223. SHRI DURGA CHAND: Will mission to formulate the programme the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ for development of the fertilizer indus­ CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased try for the Sixth Five Year Plan. This to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Group has, after a study of all relevant Question No. 3195 dated 3th August, aspects such as feedstock availability, 1978 re: criterion for setting up fertili­ regionwise demand etc., indicated zer factory in Himachal Pradesh and passible—locations for additional ferti­ state: lizer capacity. It has not suggested Himachal Pradesh as a suitable loca­ (a) whether the criteria such as tion for establishment of a large scale t€chno-(»conomic considerations as to fertilizer factory. 73 Written Answers KAHTIKA 30, 19«0 (SAKA) Written Answers j 4

(d) No, Sir. Comments: (e) Does not arise. This will be given due considera­ tion.

Demands of Indian Railway Ti action Item No, 5.—Allotment of revised Workers’ Association scales of pay to the Trac­ tion Distribution Staff ot 224. SHRl BHAGAT RAM; AVill the the Electrical Department Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to at par with Workshop staff state: of Mechanical and Electri­ (a) whether he is aware of the fact cal Shops. that the Indian Railways Traction Workers’ Association has placed Char­ Comments: ter of demands and grievances to the Divisional Superintendents and Zona] Probably, the Association General Managers through Mass de­ wants that the Miabhoy Tribunal putations and threatened to work to Award granting special pay of Rs. 150 rule; to Foreman ‘A ’ in the AuiLcnsed Scale Of Rs. 450— 575 and the scale of (b) what are their demands and Rs. 450— 575 (AS) ^ J ’oreman ‘B’ in grievances; and scale of Rs. 370— 475 (AS) which were (c) what is the reaction of Gov­ given to those in workshops, sliould be ernment thereto? extended to the Traction Distribution Staff. The issue has been referred to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE a Committee of D^^partmental Council MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI and its outcome is awaited. SHEO NARAIN); (a) Yes. Item No. 6.—Job Analysis should be (b) and (c). Demands and comments undertaken immediately thereon: and 8 hoars duty rosters of all staff of the Traction Item No. 1. High Voltage/Tension Department without any Allowance? discrimination should be 2. Risk Insurance. laid down. Comments: The question of covering the concerned staff by suitable insu­ Commen ts: rance will receive consideraiion. Duty hours have been fix­ Item No» 3.—Payment of Running Al­ ed on the basis of classi­ lowance to Tower Wagon fication of staff determined Drivers and Cleaners. On the basis of workload cn them in accordance with Comments: the provisions of Hours of Employment Regulations. Under the extent rules, Having regard to the diver­ Tower Wagon Drivers, who are main­ sity of work of Railway tenance staff, are not treated as runn­ Servants as a whole, both ing staff. However, the question of as regards its nature atid referring the issue to the Committee volume^ different limits of On Running Allowances will be consi­ Hours of Employment have dered. been laid down and it is Item No. 4.—Avenue of Promotions to not feasible to achieve uni­ Tower Wagon Drivers, Jeep formity in this regard. Truck; Pick-up Van Dri­ vers, B. D. Van Drivers and Item No, 7.— Supply of uniforms/ Cleaners. protective clothing. 75 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 76

Comments: As regards semi-skilled grade of arti­ sans, the final report of the Tribunal In accordance with exist­ on which labour also is adequately ing instruction, the staff in represented is awaited. question are not entitled to protective clothing. How­ As regards merger of 2 grades of ever, a Committee of Direc­ Clerks viz. 260-400 and Rs. 330-560 tors is going into the ques­ into a single ri#ining scale, the propo­ tion of uniforms for various sal would have wide repercussions in­ categories of staff. volving all the departments of the Central Government. Hence no unila­ Item No, 8.—Violation of Safety. teral action can be taken by the Minis­ try of Railways alone. Comments: Item. No. 11.—Grant of scales of pay Detailed Rules and instruc­ to Class IV staff of Traction Distribu­ tions already exist for the tion Department at par with artisan safety of staff working on staff. electric power lines and equipments. Steps are also Comments: taken to provide adequate supervision lo ensure that The demand perhaps relates to de­ there is no disregard of termination of skill involved in the rules, staff are not ignorant job of a Khalasi working in the Trac­ of rules and that they tion Distribution Department. This adopt the correct method subject is also under consideration of Of working. Railway Workers Classification Tribu­ nal, 1976. Item No. 9.—Officiating in Higher Grade. Item No. 12.—Abolition of casual sys­ tem Comments: Comments: Railway Administrations have been directed to ensure that no While it is not possible to achieve ad-hoc promotion continue beyond a the ideal stage of complete decasual- period of 3 months and all such cases isation immediately, substantial pro­ are reviewed by the competent autho­ gress has been made in giving regu­ rity. lar employment to casual labour. Steps have also been taken to redress the Item No. 10.—Avenue of promotion: grievances of those who have to con­ tinue as casual labour due to shortage Comments: of regular vacancies, etc.

The demand primarily re­ Item No. 13.—Creation of Construc­ lates to the artisan staff working in tion Gangs. heavy repair shops, Electric and Loco Comments: Shed, etc. The Railway Workers Classification Tribunal, 1976 is already 40 per cent of the posts which have on the job of classifying posts of arti­ been in existence for over 3 years in sans. In its interim report, the said connection with (construction work, are Tribunal had covered skilled posts only proposed to be sanctioned on a perma­ and after discussion with the organised nent basis to create a “construction labour orders have been issued on 24- reserve” . 8-1978 to the effect that skilled posts will be distributed between highly Item No. 14.— Reinstatement in ser­ skilled Gr. I, highly skilled Gr. II and vice of Shri Tapan Ghosh, Khalasi/Se- skilled grades in the ratio of 20:25:55 aldah and Shri T. Rama Rao, Fitter/ 77 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 78

Howrah and withdrawal of punish­ punctuality performance and patron- ments imposed during emergency in isation of the circular trains in Delhi Indian Railway Traction Depart­ has been satisfactory. ment (b) to (e). The proposal for opening Comments: of a halt between Narain Vihar halt One case under Section 376/379 IPC and Brar square station or shifting of is p-ending against Shri Ghosh in the the station was examined but was court of SDJM/Barrackpore. The found neither operationally feasible question of taking him back would be nor financially justified. considered after the pending case is decided by the court. Loss to Railways due to flood-damaged Railway Lines As regards Shri T. Rama Rao, he was removed from service under DAR 226. SHRI MADHAVRAO w.e.f. 20-10-77 consequent on his con­ SCINDIA: viction under Arms Act. He had sub­ SHRI KACHARULAL HEM- mitted an appeal for re-employment RAJ JAIN: which was rejected by the General Manager. Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: Regarding the punishments imposed (a) total loss suffered by the rail­ on railway servants during emergency, ways due to damages of railway lines remedial measures have already been throughout the country as a result taken to the extent feasible and neces­ of recent floods; sary. (b) steps taken or proposed to be taken to repair the damaged lines; Performance of Delhi Parikajma and Railway Service (c) steps proposed to be taken to 225. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: make up loss? Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether the performance of MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Parikarma Railway Service, Delhi SHEO NARAIN): (a) About Rs. 30 during the last one year has not been crores which includes the loss of satisfactory; traffic earnings.

(b) whether the demand of the re­ (b) Restoration work on the flood- sidents of Narain Vihar, Inderpuri and affected sections was taken up on a Naraina village to locate the station war footing. With the exception of a near H Block of Narain Vihar had few branch lines or narrow-gauge been ignored by the Railways; sections, all other affected sections (c) if so, the reasons therefor: have already been restored to traffic in a very short time. Restoration (d) whether Government intend to work on a few branch lines and nar­ shift the station keeping in view the row gauge sections, yet to be opened demands of the people and enhance to traffic, is in progress and is expect­ the earnings of the Railways; and ed to be completed during the next (e) if so, by when if ^^t, the two months or so. reasons therefor? (c) The two ways to make up the loss are to economise on working, ex­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN penses and increase the earnings. THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS These measures were discussed with (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) The 79 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 80 the General Managers of Zonal Rail­ On Delhi Division of Northern Rail­ ways in the Works Programme meet­ way the total strength of ASM/SM in ings held in October/November 1978 grade Rs. 425—640 (RS) is 319 and in as a result of which revised targets of accordance with the prescribed per­ working expenses and earnings were centage of 25 per cent leave reserve, fixed. this category is entitled to 80 posts of leave reserve in the initial grade Rs. 330—560 (RS). Since 25 per cent of the Leave Reserve Station Masters leave reserve for ASM/SM grade Rs. 425—640(RS) is to be provided in the 227. SHRI RAM PRAKASH TRIPA- category itself, 25 per cent of the total THI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS number of leave reserve posts of 80 be pleased to state: would come to 20 posts. 20 posts of (a) whether it is a fact that the leave reserve A.S.M. have, therefore, Railway Board have issued orders for been correctly upgraded to grade Rs. provision of leave reserve Station 425—640kRS>. In the circumstances the Masters/Asstt. Station Masters in the question of lesser provision of leave grade of 42"—640 on all Indian reserve in ASM/SM grade Rs. 425-640 Railways, 25 per cent of the total (RS) does not arise. strength of leave reserve/A.S.M. grade 330— 560; Proposal to increase working strength of Punjab and Haryana High Courts (b) whether it is a fact that D.S. Delhi has provided 20 leave reserve 228. SHRl CM PRAKASH TYAGI: ASMs grade 425—640 in Delhi on Will the Minister of LAW. JUSTICE the totai strength of 152 LR/ASMs AND COMPANY AFFAIRS bo pleased grade 330— 560; and to state:

(c) if so, give reasons for less pro­ (a) whether it is proposed to in­ vision of leave reserve in ASMs grade crease the working strength of the 425— 640 and the time by which Punjab and Haryana High Courts; the remaining LR/ASMs grade 425/- 640 will be provided? (b) what is the extent of increase; avid THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether accommodation for the MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS ( m m additional courts is readily available, SHEO NARAIN): (a) to (c). Prior to if not, by w hich time it would be cons­ 6-6-77 leave reserve for ASM/SM in tructed, and after how much period the grade Rs. 330—560(RS) and Rs. the additional courts would start 425— 640(RS) was provided in the functioning? lowest grade of Rs. 330—560 (RS).

In Ministry of Railways letter No. THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE E(G)73LRI-9 Pt. II dated 6-6-77, in­ AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) and (b). structions were issued that 25 per cent No proposal has been received by the of the leave reserve for ASM/SM in Government of India so far from the grade Rs. 425—640(RS) should be Chandigarh Administration in this be­ provided in the category itself. This half. meant that out of the prescribed per­ centage of leave reserve for ASM/SM (c) According to Chandigarh Admin­ grade Rs. 42S—640(RS), 25 per cent istration there are 15 regular court should be provided in the category it­ rooms in the High Court building. Six self i.e. Rs. 420—640(RS) and the bal­ additional court rooms are under cons­ ance iri the category of ASM/SM grade truction which are expected to be rea­ Rs. 330^560(RS). dy by 31-3-79. 8l Written \An*W0r$ KARTIKA 80, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 8a

Proposal to introdace Second Class (c) if so. reason thereof? Air Conditioned Coaches 229. SHRI SUBHASH CHANDRA THE MINISTER OF STATE IN BOSE a LLURI: Will the Minister of THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) to (c). The proposal to extend the railway (a) whether Government propose line from Bagha to Balmikinagar is to introduce second class air-condi­ not under consideration at present on tioned sleeper coaches to a few mail account of shortage of resources. The and express trains running on im­ line from Bagha to Balmikinagar portant routes; and Road (Madanpur; has been construct­ ed as a pan of Chhitauni-Bagha rail (b) if so, the details thereof? link project wh^ch is an approved scheme. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRi SHEO NARAIN); (a) and (b). Yes, Second Class air conditioned sleeper coaches are being^ progressively Post of Member, Engiueering in provided on important mail/express Railway Board trains. This type of coach has been recently provided on Tinsukia Mail 2:n. SHRI L. L. KAPOOR: Will the and Gujarat Mail and it is also being Minister cf RAILWAYS be pleased to provided on Srinagar Express-’ between state: New Delhi and Jammu Tawi shortly. (a) the names of persons who held Extension of Narkatiaganj-Bac^ha Liue thfi post of Member, Engineering in the Railway Board since 1955 together 230. SHRI A. K. ROY; Will the with the period of their tenure in Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to each case indicating the month and state: the years; (a) whether it is a fact that there (b) whether they retired from the is a scheme to extend Narkatiaganj- same post or were promoted or given Bagha railway line in North-Eastern collateral higher positions; and Railway up to Balmikinagar in West Champaran in Bihar to develop a (c) particulars of such positions/ backward area thereof historical im­ promotions in each case? portance; (b) whether it is a fact that the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN said line has been terminated at the THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS- Balmikinagar road (Madanpur) many (SHRi SHEO NARAIN): (a) to (c). rrHes away from Balmikmagar; and A statement is attached. Statement

Incumbency statement of the post o f Member, Engineering, Railway Board, sinct 1955,

Whether retired as Member S. No. Name From To Engineering or pomoted/app- ointed against another post.

I Shri P . C . Mukhcrjee 1-10-54 31-12-56 Appointed as Chairmai^ Rail­ way Board, w.e.f. 1.1-57 with the portfolio of Member Mecha­ nical and retired on 83 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Anovers 84

I 2 3 4 5

2 Shri Karaail Singh . . 25-1-57 16-8-62* Appointed as Chairman, Rail­ way Board, w .c. f. 19-4-60 and retired on 16-8-62.

3 Shri G. P. Shahani . . 17-8-62 30-9-64 Retired as Member, Engineering. 4 ShiiD. C.Baijal 1-10-64 7-8-65 Appointed as Chairman, Rail­ way Board, w.c.f. 17-8-62 and retired on 7-8-65. Held the portfolio of Member, Engineer­ ing from 1-10-64, onwards. 0 Shri M .A .R a o . 11-8-65 23-1-67 Retired as Member, Engineering. 6 Shri K .C . Sood H-a-67 30-8-70 Retired as Member, Engineering.

7 ShriB. C.Ganguli . 30-8-70 I2-IO-7I Appointed as Chairman, Rail­ (AN) way Board., w.c.f. 7-1-70 and retired on 12-10-71. Held the portfolio of Member Engineer­ ing from 30-8-70 (AN) on­ wards .

8 Shri B. S. D. Baliga 13-10-71 I2-IO -73* Appoint'd as Chairman, Rail­ way Board, w.c.f. 13-10-71 and retired on 12-10-73.

9 Shri M. N. Bery 13-10-73 30-4.7C* Appointed as Chairman, Rail­ way Board, w.c.f. 13-10-73 and retired on 30-4-76 (Afternoon).

10 Shri G .P. Warrier . 30-4-76 31-0-77* A ppoini(d as Chairman, Rail­ (AN) (AN) way Board, w.c.f. 3

11 Shri M. Mrnczes 31-8-77 23-4- 7« Appointed as Secretary, Depart­ (AN) ment of Defence Production w.c.f. 24-4-78.

12 Shri V.C.A. Padnianabhan 1-5-78 till date

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PakisrtiBii Railway Officials* visit to ^ iTTTTfhr srf^Prfinf*^ India ^ ^ Km ^ iTRrfhr t o ’ % finrr f% c>ff ^ ^ stttr ^ 233. SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QURE- SHI: SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH TK ^ ^ I ^ H fTTOfhr MALIK: TO # ^ rfK qr ^ Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be ^ pleased to state: ^ «TT I h x t ^ (a) whether a team of Railway officials from Pakistan visited India; J3T STTfiTT ^ art ^^TRV (b) the purpose for which the ^ ^ 'Trf+fdl»ft TO ^ team undertook the visit; and ffrqr ^ 5T3FR % ^T^zfhT (c) whether Government propose ?nT2T qr I to send a similar delegation to Pakistan? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Views of Chief Election Commissioner THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRl SHEO NARAIN); (a) to (c). 235. SHRI SHIV SAMPATj RAM: The Agreement between India and Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE Pakistan for interchange of rail trafflc AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased envisages periodical meetings at diffe­ to state: rent levels. In accordance with this, a team of Railway oflicers from Pakis­ (a) whether Government have tan Railways recently held meetings taken note of the views expressed by with the Northern Railway officers to the Chief Election Commissioner from review the progress of traffic and sort time to time and published in news­ out various issues connected with the papers; and movement of rail traffic. Such meet­ ings are held alternatively in India (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ and Pakistan. ment towards these views?

THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIR'S (SHRI 234. ^ : ^PTT SHANTI BHUSHAN); (a) Government THTPW ^ «

(b) Such of the suggestions for elec­ ^ w I,; toral reforms as have been rereived jetVt from the Chief Election Commissioner (m) irf^ ^ ^ t for the consideration of Government are under examination as part of the 1978 ^ sr«nr w = ^ ^ ^ comprehensive proposals for electoral iftr HiPntaM ^ ®mNK |TT?Tf m reforms currently under Government’s study. 87 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1878 WritUn Answers

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Demand for Cooking Gas in North (b) Liquefied Petroleum Gas (cook­ India ing gas) for North India is s^ppli^ from the Barauni and Gujarat (Koyali) 237. SHRI S. S. SOMANI: Will the refineries of the Indian Oil Corporation Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ and by the Bombay Refineries of CALS a n d fertilizers be pleased Hindustan Petroleum Corporation and to stale: Bharat Petroleum Corporation. It is a fact that availability of cooking gas (a) whether it is a fact that the from Barauni has been affected due to demand for cooking gas in North various reasons ruch as labour trou­ India is increasing day by day; and bles, transportation problems due to (b) if so, whether it is also a fact recent floods, etc. Supply position in that production had gone down in the Koyali-fed areas was also affected due Barauni Refinery, which is current to similar reasons. The Bombay Re­ source of supply of the gas and has finery of Hindustan Petroleum was shut created problems and a long wait for dowTi for about a month which result* refilling? ed in reduced availability of LPG. As a result thereof, some unavoidable THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM backlogs in gas refill supplies have AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS developed. However, afte^ the com­ (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) Yes, missioning of expansion unit at Koyali Sir, demand for cooking gas is increas­ the situation is improving and backlogs ing in the entire country including in both areas is expacted to be ^iped North India. off soon. » 9i Written ^nswers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Ansiyers 92

VVRIf mUSW* m HTW-m THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ 238. Tnr ^ ZERS OSHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): STTPT ^ ^ ! (a) to (c). Hindustan Insecticides Limited, a wholly owned Central Gov­ ernment Company, have been in touch (^) 'WT ;3 ^ with the Punjab Agro-Industries Cor­ poration for setting up joint venture plants for the manufacture of BHG S ^ I ^ ^ I • technical (26 per cent gamma) and Butachlor. The technology for both (m ) ^ m rit the items will have to imported. Fur­ W ^ ^ 2n f ^ ^ vfe^TTT^'f ^ fT ther progress in the matter will, the­ fVUT ^ j refore, depend upon the acquisition of technology, efforts for which are un­ der way.

Cases against production of Protinex TO ihlTHiT H TWIT Wt (^ fro m

an^frlr^ 1 THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (^) ^ I a n d CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS iSHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and (b). The requisite details have Setting np of a Pesticide Plant in already been furnished in reply to Punjab Lok Sabha. Unstarred Question No. 4911 and Unstarred Question No. 2352, 239. SHRi B. S. RAMOOWALIA: answered on 29-8-1978 and 1-8-1978 Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, respectively. CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state:

(a) whether he declared in a Press Conference in Punjab to establish a <^T5T pesticide plant in Punjab in public Sector with Punjab Government; 241. t^o tT?ro «fto ftpp «wnr

(b) what is the present position in this regard; and (t ) ^ ^ ?ftT ^ ’rftr «FT^ ITT3 (c) what steps are being taken to ^ ’TT VT ^ i expedite it? Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 94

(^ ) wiemx vt vymftrvnsT Loss to RaUways doe to floods

(*t) JTfif frt ? *RT 5?fVTx 243. SHRI A. R BADRI NARAYA- ^ siFTR ftnn w t; NAN: (^) irft 5T^, ^ ^ VR'JT f ? SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHANri SHRI JANARDHANA («ft ftW POOJARY:

Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be (^) ^ (^)- ^ ^ pleased to state: ftRT^r w r ^ 2Ft I Mvim F ny ^TPTtfr, fspfR ^rf^RFT (a) whether it is a fact that Rail­ T 5T^ ^ ?TEWT fen «n ^ r*T'T)lf

1. Bhimgara-Palasthali Branch line (BG)

2. Ahmedpur-Katwa section (NO) (This line is owned by a private company and the cost of restoration is to be borne by them). Eastern Railway. I 3. Krishannagar-Nabadwip ghat section (NG)

4. Chopan-Chunar section (BG) Northern Railway. 95 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Antwers 96

In addition to the above, out of 3 Damagre to Kailway Establishment due lines (Down, Middle & Up), the Up to recent floods line between Kulgachia and Panskura on Howrah-Kharagpur (BG) section 245. SHRI B. P. MANDAL: of S. E. Railway is also yet to be res­ tored to traffic. DR. VASANT KUMAR PANDIT: (c) Restoration work on the re­ maining lines is expected to be com­ pleted during the next two months Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be or so. pleased to state;

(a) the total damage caused to 8 tritBe of Natural Gas at Jawalamukhi Railway establishments due to recent flood; 244. SHRI B. P. MANDAL: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ (b) the total loss of freight and CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased fare due to floods; and to state: (c) the steps if any, the Railway Ministry proposes to take to prevent (a) whether the Oil and Natural recurrence of such damages in Gas Commission unit at Jawala­ future? mukhi (70Km. from Hoshiarpur) struck natural gas at well No. 6; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) whether 60 cm. high flame of THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS gas shot up after the well had been (SHRI SHEO NARAIN); (a) The total drilled to the depth of 850 metres; loss suffered by the Railways includ- and i'ng loss of traffic earnings, due to recent floods (from 1-9-78 to 31-10-78) (c) if so, what is the development is estimated about Rs. 30 crores. Upto date for obtaining gas force thereof? (b) The loss on account of traffic earnings is about Rs. 20 crores. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ (c) At the time of construction of ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): new railway lines, careful study is (a;. Yes. Sir. S'^rne gas was observed made of the terrain, rainfall drainage while testing the well. and flood records in the area, in order (b) and (c). While testing the in­ to ensure that the new line is so desi­ tervals 981.5 to 985.5 metres minor gned as not to be affected by the rava­ quantity of gas at zero atmosphere ges of floods. The alignment is selec­ ivell head pressure wab re­ ted carefully, the formation level of corded. When lighted this gas the track is kept above the highest initially gave a flame of 60 cm. known flood level in the area and bri­ Within two hours the height of the dges with adequate waterway are flame of the burning gas gradually re­ provided to let the flood waters of the duced and eventually died out. This fivers flow unhampered, so that safe­ minor quantity of gas is often present ty of the railway line is not endange­ in the sediments of Jawalamukhi are5 red. Special attention is given to bri­ and is not considered of any commer­ dges, which are normally designed for cial importance. However, detailed a flood discharge of 50 years frequency testing of the well is in progress and after a careful consideration of the the total amount of gas available will hydrology and past history of floods. be known only after testing is comp­ Their foundations are designed to leted. withstand even heavier floods. 97 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 98

Amongst the steps taken to prevent Ra. 126.23 crores in 1977-78 and Bud­ the flood damages are the following get Estimates for 1978-79 envisage a (1) All bridges are carefully ins­ surplus of Rs. 65.43 crores. Although pected every year and repairs to there has been some set-back in goods substructure, flooring, guide-bunds, traffic in the current year, all efforts pitching etc, carried out as neces­ are being made to ensure satisfactory sary. financial results through economies and improved performance in the (2) Waterways oi' all bridges are current busy traffic season. cleaned before the monsoons so that there is no obstruction to the flow It may be stated, however, that of water. (Aving to net deficits incurred since 1966-67, the Railways’ indebtedness to (3) Bridge cells on the Zonal the Greneral Revenues had risen to Rs. Railways review the adequacy of 461.99 crores as on 31-3-1977. The satis­ waterway of imi>ortant and vulne­ factory financial performance of 1977- rable bridges. Some of the bridges 78 has facilitated reduction of the in­ art; widened, raised^ re-sited or ad­ debtedness to Rs. 368.68 crores as on ditional bridges constructed as a re­ :U-3-1978 and a further reduction to sult thereof as considered necessary. Rs. 345.38 crores is targetted by At the time of rebuilding old brid­ March, 1979. Measures to liquidafe the ges, adequate waterway is provided accumulated debts are presently under taking into account the past flood consideration. records. (4) Wherever justified and other­ (b) Does not arise. wise feasible, the formation is rai­ sed and/or strengthened, pitched away by with stones or diverted away from Railway Bridges washed recent floods the flood affected area.

Despite all the measures mentioned 247. SHRI PRADYUMNA HAL: Will above, certain amount of flood dama­ the Minister of RAILWAYS be plea­ ges on the vast railway system are un­ sed to state: avoidable during monsoons, especially when unprecented and flash floods, (a) the particulars of railway failure of tanks/dams upstream, etc. bridges w^ashed away during the re­ occur. cent floods in various parts of the country; Railway Finances in Bad Shape (b) the loss suffered by the Rail­ 246. DR. BAPXJ KALDATE; ways on this account; and SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: (c) the steps taken to ensure good quality material is used in th^ cons­ Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be truction of railway bridges? pleased to state;

(a) whether the railway finances THE MINISTER OF STATE IN are in bad shape; and THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (b) if so, the reasons th^ereof? (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) A state­ ment is attached. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (b) The loss suffered due to damage (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) No. The to these bridges is expected to be Railways achieved a record surplus of about Rs. 1.4 crores. 3010 U5—4. 99 WriUen Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Wntten Answtrs loo

(c) In order to ensure use oi good exist on all the zonal Railways and quaUty materials for bridge construc­ these are strictly followed in construc­ tion, standard speciftcations already tion of bridges.

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Rmilufay Bridges washed away during the reteni floods.

S. No. Particulan of Bridge Scction on which located

Emsiem lUHmay

I. B ridge No. 125 consifting of 3 x 54' girder spans (Only Birdwan-Kiulviii Sahibganj (B.C».) one of the abutments was washed away^

8. Bridge No. 56 consisting of 1 x 20' girder span. Krishannagar-Lalgola 1

3. Bridge No. 11 consisting of 4 x 12'arcb spans. Bhimgara-Palasthali (B.G.;

4. Bridge No. 54 consisting of i x 10^ arch span. Barkakana loop line (B.G.;

5. Bridge No. 4:2 consisting of 14 x 40'& 4 X 60' girder Ahmedpur-Katwa N.Ci. lint*. spans. This line is owned by a private company

Mofikem Railway

6. Bridge No. 41 i consisting of 1 x 6o' ^ 1 x *oo' girder Chopan-Cihunat (B.(i.; spans.

7. Bridge No. .233 consisting of i x »o' arch span. Dclhi-Gha;^iabad (B.G

South Eastern Rmiway 8. One 10' span R.Ci.C'.slab bridgr. Howrah-Kharagpui

PropoMl te ifive m®re powers te R.F.F. THS MINISTER OF STATE IN to check crimes in Trains THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) No. 248. SHRI K. T. KOSAUiAM: SHRI V. G. HANDE: (b) and (c). E>o not arise.

Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: Scarcity of diesel in Jabalpur and Seoni Distiict (a) whether Government propose to arm the Railways Protectioii 249. SHRI NIRMAL CHANDRA Force (RPF) with powers of the JAIN: Will the Minister of PETRO­ Police for effectively checking crimes LEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ in running trains and stations; ZERS be pleased to state; (b) if so, what is the reaction of (a) whether in October, 1978 there ^taU» and has been an acute scarcity of diesel in Jabalpur and Seoni District of (c) whether State Governments Madhya Pradesh causing great dis­ have threatened to withdraw the tress to the cultivators owning ‘rec­ existing police personnel on rail­ tors; way duty (GRP), if the Railway did not fully reimburse the expenditure (b) how was this scarcity caused incurred on them? and what steps were taken to lO i Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Ang^oers I02

again st it and boost up the supply; THS MINISTER OF STATE IN and THE MINISTBV OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) and Cb). (c) whether Government will take Yes. appropriate steps to see that such a scarcity is not caused next year as (c) As a result oi the immobilisation happened this year and in some pre­ of wagons railways lost about 3.45 vious years? million tonnes of revenue earning made in regard ability was caused as a result of the to the utilisation of natural gas from strike by the Bombay Port Trust Rail­ Bombay High in Gujarat; way workers between mid-September and third week of October affecting (b) whether Government is aware loading and despatch of petroleum that there is a considerable disco^itent products from Bombay. The oil com­ ill Gujarat over this issue; and panies took immediate rescue measu­ (c) if so, thg steps taken to meet res like bridging supply from nearby Gujarat's legitimate demand fOr use depots to improve the supply situa­ of thig gas? tion. After the strike of the Bombay Port Trust Railway workers was over, THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM the supply position of diesel oil in AND CHEMICALS AND FERTIUZ- these two districts has improv­ ERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) ed. It will be the endeavour of the oil tio (c). Various letters ^representa­ companies to meet the market dem­ tions have been received from time to ands in full. time regarding supply of gas from Bombay Offshore to meet require­ ment of Gujarat. Recent floods Immobilised 35,(MM wagons A feasibility study on the gas pipe­ 250. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: line to Gujarat from Bombay Offshore has been made by ONGC. Further, SHRI R. C. KADANNAP- they have recently taken up additional PALLI: oceanographic and sea-bed investiga­ tions for exploring a prospective route Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be to landfall point in Gujarat. The final pleased to state: report along with ONGC’s recom­ (a) whether it is a fact that dur­ mendations is expected to be submitted ing the recent floods 35,000 wagons to Government in December 1978. On got immobilised; receipt of the repoi*t, a view on the economics, location, time schedule of (b) whether the eastern sector completion, etc. of the pipeline would claimed the highest immobilisation: be taken by Government. The time- y and schedule of completion will be so fra­ (c) if 80 to what extent the rail­ med sa as to fall in line with the deve­ ways had to suffer due to immobilis­ lopment of economic uses of gas in ation wagonfr? Gujarat. 103 Writteti Answers NOVEMBER 21. 1978 Written 104

Dispaiitx in Bmolamcata In Pnbli* Part-time paid Directors and Manag­ wid Prhrate Sector ers in Public Limitd Companies, or Private Limited Companies which are subsidiaries of public limited 252. SHRI C. VENUGOPAL; Will companies. the Minister of LAW. JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleBsed to 1. i n trodnctiov state: 1.1 The expression ‘man&gerial personnel’ in relation to companies (a) the particulars of Government registered under the Companies Act, decision in regard to remove dis­ 1956 ordinarily refers to the Manag­ parity in maxgirial tmolumentii in ing Whole-time Directors or Manag­ public and private sector; and ers (as defined under section 2(’24> of the Act) and exclude executives (b) the precise modus operaridi for irho are nor mcynhers of the Board of ensuring compliance with the decisioM Directors ol a company irrespective bi^th according to IcUer and spirit? of the salary paid to them.

THE MINISTER OF LAW. JUS­ 2. Both the Appointment and remu- TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS luration of the managerial personnel (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) are subject to tbe regulatory provi­ The revised administrative guideJines sions contained in the Companies Act. relating to the remuneration of ma­ As such the approval of the Central nagerial personnel in public limited Government is required both for the companies and private limited com­ appointment/reappointment of Mana­ panies which are subsidiaries of pub­ ging/whole-time Directors/Managers lic limited companies in the private and also for the remuneration payable sector are enclosed. These guidelines to them during their tenure of ap­ are intended to narrow down the di«- pointment. parties in managerial remuneration

in the public and private sector L’. Statutory Proi ision^ reonrding lim its (>} Managt'rial ren inneratiov (bj This aspect of the motion is generally looked into by he Auditors 2.1. While under section 269 read of the companies and in case of with section 388, their appointment any violation of the sanction issued as well as reapj>ointment is subject to in this behalf by the Department, the approval of the Central Govern­ they are expected to qualify the re­ ment, the provisions of section 309 port on the basis of which necessary to 311 read with section 387 govern action is taken by the Department. their remuneration. Section 309 pro­ The Department looks into these mat­ vides, int^r alio, that the Managing/ ters independently, also particularly, Whole-timo Director may be paid up- during the course of inspection under to 5 per cent of the company’s net section 209A and mvestigations un­ profits for one such Director and where der Sections 35/237 of the Compa­ there is more than one such Director, nies Act. 1956. The Registrars of upto 10 per cent thereof for all of Companies are also expected to look them put together. into these points during the course of technical s('rutiny of the balance 2.2 Under section 198, the remune­ sheets. ration payable to all Directors includ­ ing a PBrt-time Director is not to Statement exceed 11 per cent of the Company’s net profits and this percentage is ex­ Revised guidelines/administrative clusive of the fees payable to the Di­ ceilings on the salary and perquisi­ rectors for attending the meetings of tes/benefits allowable to the Manag­ the Company’s Board of DlrectorB ing Directors, whole-time Directors, from time to time. 105 Written Aiuxoers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers jo 6

2.3 The remuneration to a Manag- was specifically laid down tliat the ing Director or Whole-time Director Central Government, while according or Manager may, however, be paid its approval to managerial remunera­ to them either by way of monthly tion would^ inter-alia, have regard to payment or as percentage of the net public policy relating to the removal profits or by way of perquisites or by of disparities in income". one or more of them. In any case, it will be subject to the limits mention­ 4. I he caac jor reduction in ceilings ed above. The Central Government have caie- 'SA Minimu7}i or protected Remune­ fully reviewed the entire question of ration managerial remuneration m the con­ text of socio-economic objectives oX Section 198(4) of the Companies State Policy and the need for estab­ Act provides, inter alia, that where a lishing a co-relation in managerial re­ company has no profits of its profits muneration at comparable levels of are inadequate in any financial year, responsibility in Government, public- it may, subject to tht Central Gov­ sector undertakings and public limit­ ernment’s approval, pay to its Direc­ ed companies. In this connection, the tors including any Managing/Whole­ recommendations of the Study Group time Director or Manager by way of on Wages, Incomes and Prices (Bhoo- minimum remuneration an amount not thalingam Committee) whose report exceeding Rs. 50,000 per annum to all was published in May 1978 as well as of them put together it there are two the recommendations of the High- or more of them holding office in the powered Expert Committee under the company. Chairmanship of Justice Rajinder Sa- chai* have been taken into account. This limit of Rs. 50,000 could be These two Committees had the benefit exceeded with the approval of the of the views of various interests and Central Government if the latter is bodies representing the employers, satisfied that, for the efficient conduct employees, trade Unions etc. of the business of the company, the minimum remuneration of Rs. 50,000 5. Heriscd Cruideli/ica pK?r annum, is or will be insufficient. The iollov,^inf^ revised guidelines y,. Achuhnisirdtn-'' Guidehma have accordingly been framed for Administrative guidelines were dealing with applications received by issued in November 199 governing the the Central Government under Sec­ lemuneration payable to the Manafi- tions 269, 310, 311, 309 and 198. 387 ing/Whole-time Directors, Managers of and 388 of the Companies Act. 1956: Public LimiU'd Companies and Private Comi>anies which were subsidiaries fi.l Substantii e raiiun of Public Limited Companies. In view (i) The maximum remuneration of persisting doubts regarding the payable to Managing/Whole-time or Central Government’s powers in fix­ Port-time paid Directorii, Managers- ing ceilings on remuneration, the from one or more companies put Companies (Amendment) Act, 1974 logether subject to the statutory introduced certain new provisions limits has been fixed as under in: which vested the Central Government with specific powers to fix the remu­ (a) The salary inclusive of neration of Managing/Whole-time Di­ dearness allowance and all others rectors and Managers. The new provi­ fixed allowances should not ex­ sions of section 637AA clearly cnux>- ceed Rs. 60,000 per annum; ciated the principles that should be kept in view in approving any ap­ (b) A commission on net profits pointment or in fixing the remunera­ upto 1 per cent of the net profits tion of the managerial personnel. It may be allowed in addition 107 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers io 8

to the salary as an incentive for (iv) Medical benefits for self and efficient and sound managwnent, but family: this should be at least 20 per cent of salaiy subject to an overall ceil­ Non-inter-changeable ceiling of ing that salary plus commission 1 month’s salary subject to a maxi­ would not exceed Rs. 72,000 per mum of Rs. 5000 per annum. annum (bonus will be treated as tv) LfCave and leave travel con­ part of commission); cession. (vi) Housing including furniture, (c) Where a company proposes to fixtures, appliances, gas and elec­ pay remuneration in the form of tricity—N on-inter-changeable ceiling commission on net profits alone, this of 40 per cent of salary on the con­ shall be subject to a maximum limit dition that 10 per cent of salary of Rs. 72.000 per annum: and would be borne by the managerial personnel. (d) Henceforward. perquisites (vii) Free use of company’s car will be restricted to an amount equi­ with driver. valent to the annual salary subject to a maximum of Rs. 60,000 per an­ (viii) Personal accident insurance. num to be reckoned on the basis (ix) Free telephone facility at of actual expenditure or liabilitv residence. incurred by the company as pro­ vided under explanation to section (x) Fees of clubs subject to a ma­ ximum of 2 clubs. Admission a n d 198 of the Companie^^ Act. 1956. Life membership fees to clubs will There would, ha^ever^ be sep­ not be allowed. arate non-inter changeable ceilings for expenditure on pensionary bene­ .1.2 Minimum Remuneration fits, medical treatment and housing. Within this overall limit, the per­ In the event of absence or inade­ quisites that may be allowed by the quacy of profits in any financial year, company will be as under: — a cut of 10 per cent will be imposed on the substantive salary while The ceilling on perquisities will not be al­ (i) Company’s contribution to­ tered. (No commission/bonus will be wards Provident Fund,: payable in the case of absence or in­ adequacy of profits). Non-inlerchangeable ceiling of 10 per cent of salary. 5.3 E x c e p t io n s Expatriates and person^ possessing (ii) Company’s contribution to­ high or rare skills would not be cove- wards Pension/Superannuation Fund: red by the ceilings on managerial re­ muneration. These cases will be de^fi- Non-interchangeable ceiling of 15 ded on merits. per cent of salary. .">.4 i4pplicabilitv of revised guidelines

(iu) Gratuity; The revised guidelines wiil not be apfilkafale to the e K li^ maMCeiial Payak^lc ia aocordaace with an persomiel in whose cases approval approved fund and wbftch does not ex« ha«e alraady iieiiac acoofded, for the ceed one-half month’s salary for remainhif duratfcan of their current each ro&tpleted year « f service sub- tem m . Ih ty will be made applicable fecft to a lUMfl-ifiter-AAngeabte ceil- to «ha§6 pcrsMa thair M « M iA t- iam ^ lU. 30,tm w fO M ntlia MtUry. mmH itKk fhe aoKffrr tteir curxent whichever ia lass. tenure. I 0«9 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1&00 (SAKA) Written Answers no

Manufsctnre of Tederal C. Tablets by furnish a statement shouting the pro­ M /s. Warner Hindustan duction and supplies made to each formulator to the CPC and the Ministry SHRl H. K AMIN: every month. It is in this context that SHRI RAMJI LAL SUMAN: CPC were advised to make additional supplies of Prednisolone to units ser­ Will the Minister of PETROLEUM. viced by the CPC during 1977/1977-78 CHEMICALS & FERTILIZERS be by way of growth rate as per distri­ pleased to state: bution policy for release of canalised bulk drugs. CPC were also authorised (a) whether M/s. Warner Hindus­ to make supplies to any other units tan are manufacturing Tederal C. who wanted to take up the manufac­ tablets without any industrial licence; ture of products based on Prednisolone wtihin the framework of distribution (b) if so, why was release of Pre­ policy. Subsequently the manufact­ dnisolone recommended in their uring plant of M /s Wyeth Laboratories favour, under what provisions was it was shut down for about four and half done and at what level was tbje deci­ months on account of some contamina­ sion taken to release Prednisolone; tion problem resulting in loss of pro­ and duction. Instructions were, therefore, issued to the CPC that units serviced (c) details of instructions issued by M/s Wyeth Labs in 1976/1976-77 by his Ministry to State Chemicals may be allowed releases to the extent & Pharmaceuticals Corporation of of 40 per cent of the quantities relea­ India Ltd. and State Trading Corpo­ sed to them by M /s Wyeth Labs dur­ ration in regard to Prednisolone re- ing 1976/76-77. M/s Wyeth Labs were Jeases? also to be allowed similar release from the CPC. As regards new units, CPC TViE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM were advised to release a quantity of AND CHEMICALS & FERTIZERS 5 kgs of Prednisolone or the quantity «SHR1 H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) to recommended by the State Drug Con­ (c). Details regarding the manu­ trollers whichever was less. facture of Tederal C. tablets by M/s Warner Hindustan and the recommen­ Prednisolone has been decanalised dation for the release of Prednisolone in their favour, have been explained during 1978-79. in the reply to Lok Sabha Unstarred Q. No. 8802 answered on 2nd May, Prices of Dratflt 1978. The decision to ask the State Chemicals & Pharmaceuticals Corpn. 254. SHRI R, KOLANTHAIVALU: of India Ltd. to release 1.5 kgs of Pre­ Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, dnisolone during 1977-78 in favour of CHEMICALS tc FERTILIZERS be M/s Warner Hindustan Ltd. was taken at appropriate level in the Ministry. pleased to state: (a) whether Government are satis­ In April 1977, M/s Wyeth Labora­ fied that the prices of drug* have tories, who are the only manufacturer shown a reasonably lower trend con­ of Prednisolone in the country, were sequent on the formulation of the informed that they might make supp­ Tiew drug policy; and lies of this drug to the same formula- taca only during 1977/1977-78 as per (ib) ii not, whether the preclac 9uppUeB made by them during 1976/ pit falis in the new policy have h m 1976-77. For such w ppliag, no aitt^ori- lArtntiAed JtQ ttuit U|e stviM 4rugs jation from the CPC s m e ­ m at a xwisoiiaMa rate to ary but M/a Wyeth Laboratori«f would conunon ma&? I l l Wntten Answer* NOVEMBER 21, 1978 WritUn Answers 112

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM ces of drugs can be seen tram the fol^ a n d c h e m i c a l s a n d f e r t i l i ­ lowing movement of the wholesale z e r s (SHRI H. N BAHUGUNA); price index for drugs and medicines:- (•) and (b): The recent trend in pri­

>VhoTsaIc pricf indrx for drugs and Pncri^lag<‘ inrreaw*/ mcdicincs. decrea*r {1970-71 100

*975-7^ litt 7

'97^77 •33 9 r ‘ 3% «>vn I97»j-7b »977'7« '3^> 3 J 8% *97^-77 A pril— SirpirmhK-r, 1978 1:46 j fVirr level held a t *977-78 lt*vcl.

The new pricing policy which was including the amount of compensa­ announced in March, 1978 envisages tion and made of payment are con­ selective price control. For the purpose tinuing. of price control four categories of for­ mulations have been established. Category I and Category II formula­ tions which are lifesaving and highly essential would carry a lower mark of 40 per cent and 55 per cent xespectively. Leader prices would be ^ TO ^ q?F5rT established in these two categories. Category III formulations would car­ ry a mark upto 100 per cent. There (>j) wm m Trrf^ would be no price control on category if m f ; IV formulations. (»T) ^ Decision to take over F oret^ Oil ^ f^.T ir t " Companies ^ fiTvrmirw) 255. SHRI M. V. CHANDIiASHE- (W.) ^ (^ ) ; ^ ^ ^ fpiTT KARA MURTHY; Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: (a) whether Government had de­ cided to take over all the foreign oil 25H. m x #rOTT3WT : W fw companies operating in India; and *t?f7 f *TT : (b) if so, by what time all of them will be taken over? (m) qfr^TrsRT ^ frt

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, ^ t; AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZ­ ERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) («r) Jffe ?TT fJTTW (.^ ^ rr ^Hfprf^ and (b). It is proposed to take over w fwwiTO ^ fro ^ ^ w«rf?i rtter Assam Oil Company and B.O.C/s in­ t o ^ irft terest in Oil India Limited. Negotia­ a fW ^ j

(n) WT mwrrw w r wtj mulations and also agreed to deve­ ^ firfrf w wi# s k i r t lop new technology on request from av w in% ^ flftf iftsRT jrfif ?t m fw the Soviet side. WR ? TO SJTtrt wr ^ ?i>T ^ -JIT# :^JIT w »r R ■' (ii/ Both sides agreed to exchange information, as may be desired, in the field of drugs and pharmaceuti­ fro^ncnw) ; cals including antibiotics, synthe­ («F) (^T) W ^ ^ iRFTFm * 5ftf^ ^ tic drugs and chemical intermediates. ITHRT I I ?T«rrf^, 1 970 H mtim % irpTR (iii) Both sides discussed the pos­ mvr< ar^T^TR zmmTTcT ^ftr sibility of cooperation in the produc­ ?Tvr W'TT m^nrnHff v tion of formulations in India by im­ ^ |?TTf ^ 5ZRT«rr ?rf^ Pror ^ lyf^- porting bulk drugs from the USSR Tfnf^cT zmmpT ^ ^ ^ and re-exporting to third countries. ^ ?TTC^'t ^ >«JHH-qfT- ^?[ ^ t ^iTrn I ^iT^T qfT^iriRr (iv) Both sides also agreed to ex­ rT^ V^T ^ ^ €} *)ft ^>5 JhTIRT plore the potential for increased ex­ I port and import of formulations.

Agreement between In

259. SHRI G. Y. KHISHNAN: Will 260. SHRI SUKHENDRA SINGH : the Minister of PETROLEUM, CIIK- Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be MICALS AND FERTILIZERS b e pleased to state: pleased to state: (a) whether Railways propose to (a) whether India and the Soviet launch a scheme to teach Hindi to Union have agreed to collaborate in its employee's along with other sub­ setting up joint ventures in third jects; and countries for the production of drugs; and (b) if so, the details regarding the sch-eme of Government in this re- (b) if ;crs 116

of all the non-Hindi-knowing emp­ reserve in second class for his guests loyees of the Central Government is to each day from the Parliament House be completed by 19B1. The Operating Booking Office, has been imposed. staff On the Railways work in shift This is, however, subject to availabi­ duties and as such they do not have lity of accommodation. time to attend the classes during their working hours and therefore such stafl (b) No such complaint was received are learning Hindi through their own in respect of South-bound trains of efforts. This has. however, not been 24-6-1978. found adequately feasible. Hence, in order to teach Hindi particularly to the (c) A statement detailing the book­ operational staff, a scheme, under de­ ings made in second class at the Parlia­ partmental arranisements, is under con_ ment House Booking Office for South­ sideration« envisaging that knowledge bound trains of 24-6-1978, is laid on of Hindi may be imparted to non^ the Table of the House. [Placed tn Hindi knowinp Railway employees Library. See No. LT—2777/178] alongwith othei* subjects connected with their job during the course of their training in Railway Zonal Train­ Salaries and Perks ol Managerial ing Schools. Department of the Offi­ and Executive PecBonnel cial Languages is to be consulted in the matter, whereafter it will be sub­ 2H2 SHRI HARI VISHNU mitted to the Central Hindi Committee KAMATH: for their consideration. PROF. P. G. MAVALAISTKAR:

Parliament House Railway Booking DR P. V. PERIASAMY: Office Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE 261. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : Will AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas­ to state; ed to state: (a) whether it is a fact that Go- (a) the number of seats which a v^ernment have decided to reduce the Member of Parliament can reserve salaries and perks of top managerial in Ilnd Class for his guests each day and executive personnel in Govern­ from the Parliament House Booking ment companies as well as those in Office of the Railways; the public and private sectors; (b) whether he has received any complaints about non-availability of (b) if 90f the details thereof, Sec­ reservations in Und Class on varicnis tor-wise and category-wise; trains going to South in spite of the fact that seats were available on 24th (c) if not, the reasons therefor; June, 1978; and (d) whether any changes in com­ (c) if ao, whether b e will lay on pany law are under consideration; the Table a cepr of

companies, which are subsidiaries of Managing/whole-time Directors/Man­ public limited companies, have since agers and also for the remuneration been issued by the Central Govern­ payable to them during their tenure ment. A copy of the same is attached. of appointment. The ceilings of remuneration in Gk)v- ernment Companies are already much 2. Statutory provisions regarding li­ lower and there is no proposal to re­ mits of managerial remuneration duce the same. The provisions of the Companies Act do not empower Gov- 2.1. While under section 269 read (mment to reduce the salaries and with section 388, their appointment as oerks of executive personnel. well as reappointment is subject to the approval of the Central Govern- (d) and (e). The High Powered jnent, the provisions of sections 309 Committee under the chairmanship of to 311 read with section 387 govern Justice Shri Rajinder Sachar has their remuneration. Section 309 pro­ made, inter alia, certain recommenda­ vides, inter alfn, that the managing/ tions in regard to managerial and Whole-time Director may be paid up- executive remuneration which r e q u i r e to 5 per cent of the company’s net amendments to the Companies Act. profits for one such Director and The recommendations for amendment where there is more than one such of the Companies Act, 1956 are under Director, upto 10 per cent thereof for consideration and appropriate steps all them put together. including legislative amendments as may be found nece.ssary. will be taken 2.2. Under section 198, the remune­ in due course. ration payable to all Directors inclu­ ding a part-time Director is not to Statement exceed 11 per cent of the Company’s net profits and this percentage is ex­ Ri’rised gni da U ruw, advi iv is trativc ce i I - clusive of the fees payable to the ’7igs on the salary and perquisiiefi / Directors for attending the meetings, brri:fits allounible to Ihc Managing of the Company’s Board of Directors DiTi’Ciurs, W}iol?~t'nn(> Director^^^ Part- from time to time. tirrie paid Directors and Managers in Public Lim ited Compa^nies. or Private 2.3. The remuneration to a Manag­ Limited Companies u'hich are subsi- ing Director of Whole-time Director flinrics of public Umit<*d companies or Manager may, however, be paid to them either by way of monthly pay­ i Introduction ment or as percentage of the net pro­ 1.1 The expression ‘managerial per­ fits or by way of perquisites or by one sonnel’ in relation to companies re­ or more of them. In any case, it will gistered under the Companies Act, be subject to the limits mentioned 1956 ordinarily refers lo the Manag­ above. ing/whole-time Directors or managers [as defined under section 2(24) of the 2,4, Minimum of protected remunera­ Act] and excludes executives who tion are not member^ of the Board of Directors of a company irrespective of Section 198(4) of the Companies the salary paid to them. Act provides, inter alia, that where a company has no profits or its pro­ 1.2 Both the appointment and re­ fits are inadequate in any financial muneration of the managerial person­ year, it may, subject to the Central nel are sobject to the regnlaftoiy pro- Government’s apiiroval, pay tp its Di- visiMis «xi(ialiied in the Companies r«otora tncludin< any Managing/ A ct Ab amdki the appxoirai a i the C ^ - Whele-tim» Dinector or Manager by tral

annum to all of them put together was published in May 1978 as well as if there are two or more of them the recommendations of the High- holding office in the company. That powered Expert Committee under the limit of Rs. 50,000 could be exceeded Chairmanship of Justice Rajinder Sa- with the approval of the Central Gov­ char have been taken into account. ernment if the latter is satisfied that, These two Committees had the benefit tor the etficient conduct of the busi­ of the views of various interests and ness of the company, the mmimum bodies representing the employers, remuneration of Rs. 50,000 per annum employees, trade unions etc. is or will be insufficient. n. He risk'd Guidelines 3. Adwinistrative Guidelines The following revised guidelines Administrative guidelines were have, accordingly been framed for ’ issued in November 1969 governing dealing with applications received by the remuneration payable to the Ma- the Cential Government under Sec­ naging/Whole-time Directors, Mana­ tions 269. 310, 311, 309 and 198, 387 gers of Public Limited Companies and ;;nd 388 of the Companies Act, 1956: Private Companies which were subsi­ diaries of Public Limited Companie.s. 5.1 Substantive^ remuneration In view of persisting doubt? regard­ ing the Central Government’s powers (1) The maximum remuneratioi) in fixint; ceilings on remuneration, the payable to Managing/Whole-time or Companies (Amendment) Act, 1974 Part-time paid Directors, Manager<^ introduced certain new provisions from one or more companies put to­ which vested the Central Government gether, subject to the statutory limitJ^ with specific powers to fix the xe- ha.s befn fixed a s under; muneration of Managing/Whcle-time (a/ The salary inclusive of dearness Directors and Managers. The new pro­ allowance and all other fixed allow­ visions of section 637AA clearly enun­ ances should not exceed Rs. 60.000 ciated the principles that should be per annum; kept in view in approving any ap­ pointment or in fixing the remunera­ tion of Iho mar. gerial personnel. It ^b) A comniissi(jn on net profit upto was sf>ecifically laid down that the 1 per cent of the net profits may be Central Government, while according allowed in addition to the salary as its approval to managerial remunera­ an incentive for efficient and sound management, but this should be at tion would, intPr alia have regard to “public policy relating to the removal least 20 per cent of salary subject to of disparities in income” . an overall ceiling that salary plus commission would not exceed Rs. 72,000 per annum (bonus will be trea­ 4. The case !,or reduction in c*>ilir)gs ted as part of commission); The Central Government have care­ fully reviewed the entire question of (c) Where a company proposes to managerial remuneration in the con- pay remuneration in the form of com­ «. text of socio-economic objectives of mission on net profits alone, this shall State Policy and the need for estab­ be subject to a maximum limit of lishing a co-relation in managerial re­ Rs. 72,000 per annum; and muneration at comparable levels of responsibility in Government, public- (d) Henceforward, perquisites will sector undertakings and public limit­ be restricted to an amount equi­ ed companies. In this connection, the valent to the annual salary subject to recommedations of the Study Group a maximum of Rs. 60,000 per annimi on Wages, Incomes and Prices (Bhoo- to b t reckoned on the basis of actxial thalingam’ Committee) whose report expenditure or liability incurred by I l l Written Ansuiers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 122 the company aa provided under ex­ (x) Fees of clubs subject to a planation to section 198 of the Com­ maximum of 2 clubs. Admission panies Act, 1956. There would, how- and life membership fees to clubs ever, be separate non-interchangeable wiJl not be allowed. ecfilings for expenditure on pensionary benefits, medical treatment and hous­ 5.2 Minwium Remuneration ing. Within this overall limit, the per­ quisites that may be allowed by the In the event of absence or inad­ company will >)e as under: equacy of profits in any financial year, a cut of 10 per cent will be imposed (i) Company’s contribution to- on the substantive salary while the wards Provident Fund: ceiling on perquisites will not be al­ Non-interchangeable ceiling of tered. (No commission/bonus will be 10 per cent of salary. payable in the case of absence c>r in­ adequacy of profits). (ii) Company’s contribution to­ wards P^«;ion/SuperannufUion Kxceptiomt Fund: Expatriates and persons possessing Non-interchaiigeable ceiling of high or rare skills would not be cov­ 15 per cent of salary. ered by the ceilings on managerial remuneration. These cases will be de­ (iii) Gratuity: cided on merits.

Payable in accordance with du Guide- approved fund and which does not ."^.4 Af)j)licability of Revised li'Ties exceed one-half month’s salary for each completed year of service sub­ The revised guidelines will not 'x' ject to a non-intercharge«ble ceiling applicable to the existing managerial of Rs. 30,000 Or 20 months salary, personnel in whose cases approval whichever is less. have already been accorded, for the (iv) Medical benefits for self and remaining duration of their current family: tenure. Th€>>' will be made applicable to these persons on their reappoint­ Non-interchangeable ceiling of 1 ment on the expiry of their current month’s salary subject to a maxi­ tenure. mum of Rs. 5000 per annum.

(v) Leave and leave travel ron- cession. Demand for Double line in Sealdah- Bongaon Section of Eastern Railway (vi) Housing including furniture, fixtures, appliances, gas and electri­ SHRI : Will city—Non-interchangeable ceiling the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased of 40 per cent of salary on the con­ to state: dition that 10 per cent of salary would bo borne by the managerial (a) whether he is aware that Seal- personnel; dah-Bongaon Passenger’s Association has launched a movement for de­ (vii) Free use of company’s car manding a double line in the Sealdah- with driver: Bongaon Section of Eastern Railway; and (viii) Persona] accident insurance (Ix) Free telephone facility at re­ (b) if so. what is Grovernment’s sidence. reaction to this demand? 123 Written Answers: NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 1^4

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Plana to step up Ptodnetiou in m THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS H lfh by Oil aiiA N M m l Gas (SURI aaiE O NAHAIN): (a) Yes.

(b> The work is being included in 265. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will the the Railway Budget for 1979-80. Minister of PETPOLlJUM, CHEMI­ CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state; Provlsiofi of Alkyl Benaene and Soda Ash to Small Scale Unit^ (a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas Commission has come forward with its plans to step up production 264. SHRl : from Bombay, before next monsoon, Will the Minister oi PETROLEUM, provided the Central Government CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZE^iS be gives clearance for the constnicfJori pleased to state: programme off-shore; and

(a) whether Government are con­ (b) if so, the details regarding the sidering to provide raw materials sucji pi\)gramme of the O il and Naturijl as alkyl benzene and soda ash to small Gas Commission and the reaction of scale units in abundance at reason­ CJovernment thereto? able price; and

(b) if so. the details thereof? THE MINISTEI^ OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS CSHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (a) and (b). Presently Phase III deve­ AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILl lopment programme of Bombay High is under execution which had been ZERS CSHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and (b). Small scale units have approved by Gk>vemment with an out­ lay of Rs. 534.02 crores. ONGC ha$ been permitted to import linear alky) completed Phases I, II and the first benzene directly to meet the shortfall stage of Phase-III programme of deve­ in suf^lies being arranged for them by lopment of Bombay High and a pro­ Chemicals and Pharmaceuticals Cor­ poration of India Limited. duction rate of 80,000 barrels per day has heen achieved (approximately equal to 4 million tonnes» per annum). On re-commissioning of Platform-B. On a Suggestion of the Government this rate of production is likely to go the manufacturers ot soda ash have up to about 95,000 ban els per day (ap^ assured adequate supplies of the mate­ proximately equal to 4.75 million ton­ rial to small scale consumers at fair nes per annum) in December, 1978. prices. To supplement indigenous Keeping in view various factors, the supplies, imports of this item at con- crude oil production programme from cessicmal rates of duty have been per­ Bombay High has been recently re­ mitted. vised as below:

(Crude oil in million tonnes)

1978-79 1979-fto 1980-81 1982-83

3*40 4.40 5-90 a .20 9.00 125 Written, Anawert KABTIKA 30, 1800 (SAKA) Written Angwert 126 Pvndiiif Apidiestioiis for Connectfan leased by the Chairman, Managing • f OMfeUw O u Director (Marketing Division), the Regional Managers and their delegated 266. SHRI DALPAT SINGH PAR- officers. ASTE: WiU the Minister of PETRO­ LEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTTLI- ^c) As mentioned ak)ove, the re­ ZEiRs be pleased to state: quests received in the Ministry for gas connections are sent to Indian Oil Cor­ (a) the number of applications poration. pending with him for sanctioning cooking gas connection in Delhi on (d) The availability of Liquefied medical grounds; Petroleum Gas number of pending applications for become another overflowing sower; gas connections in Delhi on m edical grounds. (d) what protections against flooQi; a r e being taken to s a v e the ramns in (b) In the Ministry of Petroleum, the sloping sections of the M.T.P. Chemicals and Fertilizers, besides the between Dum Dum and Belgachia in Minister a few gas connections on the North and the area arounj Tolly- / Driority have been sanctioned by the gunge Golf Club in the South; and Secretary or concerned Joint Secre­ tary on merits. In the Indian Oil Cor­ (e) the salient features of the pre­ poration, priority connections are re­ cautions proposed, so far? 127 Writteti Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answ^ra 128

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (*r) 15 ^ %5rr THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS ^ WIRT/ 79 wr?: I (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): Ca) to (c). No. ■jrwr Mifi % in i 1ST fvvTWT mtitt (d> Concrete boxes, as provided in the underground sections, have also 269. «ft TT#Ff VITT^ fTRt : Wm ^ been provided along the sloping ramps ^ ?RTT^ ^ fjR ; connecting the underground section with the elevated/surface sections of (V) 5RT ^RVR firiTTT the line, both in the north and in the ?fhr^ w r ^ ^ ^ innp: south, upto the points at which he ^ ^ ; floor level is above the highest flood level. ^ ^ 3nrw ^ ^ ?Tin iFfTTV 5TT9T 5?TT ^; aYt (e) The floor levels of the entrances and exists of the staircases for mil (*r) JTf^ m i^ snrf^ TT t ^ are being provided at suitable locations ’pft ^ I ^<*Vt erc(ilate into the sub%vay ^ ^ ^ t I boxes. ^TTR^ R ^ ^ 'irl f ^I ♦ W‘ T » W 1. Vm-5TT?fN I ^ TP? mfrfVl WTT j. I jjTT ^ mr ^ •.

( »j) ^ ?T, iTR ^ ^ Pilferage of goods from Garharn VMwf ^ szftrr fiiT ^ Transhipment Yand (>) fw:m L>7(). PANDIT D. N. TIW ARY; Will jfT^hTT ' the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: ffsr i^refa *r ffiw jttttot ) ( ^ ) ifT fU I (a) whethLr it is a fact that at Garhara Transhipment Yard foreign (9 ) f • mrTRTTeT ?TfiT- goods worth Rs. 10 lakhs were pil­ iftviTO ^ i ^ fered during the last two months; ^ ufOT ftr*t spTT ^ x ftx

nrf^f wT ^ I Rajendra Pul Halt station was looted 129 Wr ilAtji Anitwers KARTIKA 31 1900 (SAKA) WHtten Answers 130

and foodgrains taken away on a coun­ Surplus Railway lAna to Railva7 try boat; Employees

(c) whether large amount of coal 271. SHRI K. PRADHANI: WiU is also being pilfered from the Gar- the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased hara RailWBy Yard; to state: (d) if the answers to (a), (b) and (c) are in the affirmative, the amount (a) whether there is any proposal of loss by these criminal activities; under the consideration of Govern­ and ment to allot the surplus railway land to railway employees for house (e) the steps taken to check and building purposes; and stop such activities? (b) if not, what are the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) No. THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) and (b). (b) On 16th September, 1978 one As per the extant policy, surplus wagon containing food grains was vic­ railway land, which is not re­ timised from a stabled load at Rajen- quired by the Railways, other Central dra Pul. Government Departments and the (c) No. State Government, can be considered for relinquishment to Railwaymen’s (d) The amount of loss against 0^) Cooperative House Building Societies is Rs, 2,000/- approximately. with the permission of State Govern­ ments on payment of the market value (e) Steps taken to Check and stop of land on the date of transfer. such activities are: — 1. Guarding of vulnerable points and picketing, palroUin‘» and Operation by O.S.G C. in Bombay deputing of piain clothed Rail­ m gh way Protec'tion Force StalT. 272. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: 2. Deployment of Dog Squads at Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, Garhara. CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: 3. Surprise night Checking by Supervisory Staff. (a) whether the operations by the O.N.G.C. in the ‘Bombay High* region 4. Deputing Railway Protection have been intensified and accelerated Force StafT round the clock in by Government during the 1976; Garhara Railway Yard.

5. Transhipment of foreign goods (b) if so, with what results and from B.G. to M.G. wagons in gains; presence of Commercial, RPF and Customs StaiT. (c) how is the gas presently sup^ plied and to whom and where and at 6. Intensification of checks by what cost; claims prevention and Rail­ way Protection Force inspec­ (d) whether Government have for­ tors. mulated any concrete plan for further exploration and distribution of natural 7. Co-ooeration of local Police and and associate gas in this regard; and Government flailway Police in apprehending the criminals. (e) if so, main indication thereto? 3010 LS—8 131 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 132

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM domestic consumers as well as to AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ textile mills listed in the Groups ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) Report. They have accordingly set up and (b ). Phase III development of a Group to study these issues and Bombay High which was approved by further action in the matter will be Government in May/June 1977 is pre­ taken cn rcccipt of their report. sently under execution. The first stage of this Phase which includes the A feasibility study On the gas pipe­ laying of the oil and gas trunk pipeline line to Gujarat from Bombay QiTshore from Bombay High to Uran, laying of has also been made by ONGC. Fur­ transfer lines from Uran to Trombay, ther, they have recently taken up erection of ‘F’ Platform and some additional oceanographic and sea-bed terminal facilities onshore at Uran and investigations for expiorixng a pros­ Trombay has been completed. The oil pective route to landfa-1 point in and gas started flowing through the Gujarat. The final report alongwith pipelines since July 1978. The laying ONGC’s recommendation is expected of these pipelines has enabled uninter­ to be submitted to Government in rupted supply of oil and gas especially December 1978. On receipt of the during monsoon and largely avoiding report, a view on the economics, flaring of high pressure associated gas. locationis, time-schedule of comple­ (c) Presently, the associated gas tion, etc., of the pipeline would be from Bombay High is being supp'ied to taken by Government, M/s. Rashtriya Chemicals & Fertili­ zers and to Tata Power Station at Necessary pi^n? for exploration/ Trombay as a fal] back arrangement. production of Bombay Offshore gas The price of gas being charged by will be formulated by ONGC to fall ONGC is broadly fixed on replacement in line with the development of eco­ value basis. To the extent gas is used nomic uses of gas. by Tatas a*? a substituted fuel for coal, the price they would pay would be the m ftw , IT fro*? substitute price equivalent to what th“y would have paid had they continued 27 3 innftlFT to use coal. The price currently being realised from them is about Rs. 37,0/- : per 1000 M3 of gas. The price of gas being supplied to M/s. Rashtriya Che­ (^) 7T3n^2TR if 'TFT jjn micals and Fertilizers is Rs. 619 per 1000 M3. (d) and (e). In order to study the (^) ^ TrrWTK % ^ qw ITTT qnTlV3 optimum utilisation of offshore gas from ^ ^ i zftsRT I Bombay High, Bassein North and f[t, ^ oiflTT ^ ^ ? Bassein South, two Working Groups— one for Gujarat and another for Maha­ rashtra were set up. Their re'^ommen- wnT ^ («* dations which have been broadly vgiTon): (^ ) ^ accepted by Government inter-alia 115^ 120 fnfpRrr ?r;T ^ include setting up of four fertilizer ^ I, ^ 23 ^ 25 5lfin?RT projects—two in Maharashtra and ^ ^ 24 q r?- in Gujarat. As recommended by the ^ Pot w ^ ^ Working Group for Maharashtra, with S I a view to reducing pollution in Bom­ bay, the Government of Maharashtra (^) ^ 'TT^TT^’T spt has also been requested to study the ^ !TifhT ITPT ^ I various issues connected with the pro­ q r ^rrsfT- posal for the supply of o^shor^ gas through a network of pipelines to 133 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) WHtten Answers 134

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN) (a) and(b). The upto date progress on Trivan- dium-Tirunelveli/Kanyakumari line Coal Stock in Zonal Railways is 63 per cent. The target date for opening the first phase from Trivan­ 274. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: drum to Kanyakumari is March, Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be 1979 and that for the complete pro­ pleased to state: ject is 1979-80. The shortage of re­ sources was responsible for the delay (b ) whether it is a fact that the in the project. minimum coal stock with many of the Zonal Railways is barely of the order of three days requirement; Representation of Amendment of M.R.T.P. Act (b) if so, the reasons for the same; and 276. SHRI VIJAYKUMAR N. (c) the steps being taken to remedy PATIL: Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS ti?e critical situation of coal supply? be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (a) whether the Punjab, Haryana THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS and Delhi Chamber of Commerce and (SHRl SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes, Industry have represented to the most of the Zonal Railways are hav­ Government urging amendment of ing coal stocks equivalent to two to MRTP Act; three days consumption at present. (b) if so, furnish details thereof; (b) Coal stock position of the (c) what is the reaction of the Railways came down to the present Government to the representation; low level due to continuous inadequate and availability of steam coal. The situation was aggravated by the (d) decision if any taken in the flooding of mines in Bengal—Bihar matter? field in September—October 1978. THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS­ (c) Close liaison is being main­ TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS tained with the Ministry of Energy (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) (Department of Coal) and the coal No, Sir. producing authorities, so as to in­ crease availability of steam coal in However, in reply to the Ques­ Bengal—BihBr field and tap other tionnaire issued by the High Powered coal fields also. Expert Committee set up by Gove- ernment under the Chairmanship of Trivandrum-Kanyaknmari Link Pro­ Justice Shri Rajindar S^char for reviewing the provisions of the Com­ ject panies and the M. R. T. P. Acts, the Chamber had submitted a memo­ 275. SHRI K. A. RAJU: Will the randum to the Committee on the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased subject. to state: (b) A statement indicating the (a) the present position of the Tri- suggestions of the Chamber regard­ ^vnndrum-Kanyakumari link; and ing the MRTP Act as contained in its . (b) the reasons for delay in the memorandum to the Committee is project? annexed. 13*5 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 136

(c)and (d ). The Report of the p<^cies could be said to be persons/ High Powered Expert Committee was bodies controlling the activities of presented to Government on 29-8- the company. 1978 cmd copies thereof were laid on the Table of the House on 30-8-1978. (vii) In Explanation IV to Section This Report is presently under Gov­ 2(g), it should be clarified that the ernment’s consideration and appro­ financial institutions should be ex­ priate measures, including legislative cluded ior holding shares and not amendments, as may be found necec- their shareholdings excluded. sary, will be taken in due course. (viii) The concept of ‘undertaking’ under the M.R.T.P. Act should be consistent with that of “industrial undertaking’’ under the Industries Suggestions made by tht Punjab. (Development & Regu5*ation) Act. Haryana and Delhi Chamber of Com­ merce on the MJtT.P. Act in its re­ (ix) Net worth (share capital plus presentation to the High Powered Ex reserves) less adjustments made for pert Committee on Companies and interorporate investments and loans M.R.T.P. Acts. should be the “ value of assests” for determining the size of an under­ (i) The concept of dominant taking. undertaking should be done away with.

(xvii) Application forms under the THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, MRTP Act should be simplified. AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZOERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) (xviii) Unless a new interconnected and (b). Yes. ONGC and O.I.L. have or a new dominant undertaking co nmitted to supply nearly a million would come into existence, no prior standard cubic metres of gasAday for approval under the MRTP Act is Phase XII of Namnip Fertilizer Comp­ necessary in the case of new comp­ lex. O.LL. has also agreed to provide anies. 96,000 standard cubic metres per day (xix) Voting rights exercised by to meet the peak demand of Assam banks in respecl ol shares pledged Slate Eleetricity Board in addition to with them should not be counted as its existing commitment. O.I.L. has holding in the hands of respective also submitted a feasibility project re­ companies for the purposes of the port on the extraction/production of Act. L.P.G, with a capacity of 60,000 tonnes per annum. (xx) ‘Groups’ of goods [under MR­ TP (classification of Goods) Rules] fc) and (d). The L.P.G. to be produc­ should be so classified as to ensure ed will be partly bottled in cylinders that re liable data of production are for consumption in Assam. The bal- available, and published by Govern­ anre quantity will be spiked into the ment. crude through the existing pipeline of Oil India for transportation to the re­ fineries in the Public Sector. Utilisation of Natural Gas in Oil Field of Atsram

277. SHRl PURNANARAYAN 278. ftn? : fl(T ^ SINHA: Will the Minister of PETRO­ LEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ SERS be pleased to state: (^) WT WrWTK ^ ^ ^ IfPTWlft

(a) whether the Government pro­ pose to contain the flaring away of % ^3R?rr ^ i ; Natural Gas in the oil field.*? of Assam; (w) efr Tff ^ W H7VR aPTT (b) what steps are being taken to «f)T 7^ process th« Natural gas produced and to extract L.P. Gas and further utili­ (^) »Tnr 1^-11 ? ^ sation of natural gas as fuel for ?r i rfh" w i' w r: ’ prime movers in the industries, street lighting and as feedstock for the manufacture of fertiliser; ftPT ^nrrw) (^ (^). ^ (c) how long it will take Govern­ ^ ^ ^ TTR T5" ’3TFT ^ 'dtK ment to lay an L.P. Gas tube line from Naharkatiya and other oil fields «TT I down to Gauhati with branch lines to L.P. Gas consuming centres on way ^ PT irrfvft ^ ft>T H in order to relieve the scarcity of <:ooking gas; and

(d) if Government do not propose fnT ^ ^ I to do as suggested in (a), (b) and (c) above, what are the constraints (tt) ^ \ ugamsi the steps being taken to ensure i fftrur^^rrLT— 2778 best utilisatipn^ of Natural Qas? /7ft] 139 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 140

Offlciatiiiir Assistant Engineers Civil Engineering Department on the Class n North Eastern Railway, 2 Scheduled Caste employees narrowly failed to 279. SHRI DAYA RAM SHAKYA: qualify, by one mark and less than one Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be mark. Their cases were therefore pleased to refer to reply given to Uns- considered by the Ministry and it was tarred Question No. 3253 on 8th decided that they should be treated as August, 1978 regarding “Officiating As­ having qualified and allowed to apear sistant Engineers Class II’’ and state: at the viva-voce and if successful, should be empanelled. Action taken (a) copies of G.M.N.E.Rly./GKP in pursuance of this resulted in the letters No.E/254/5 Pt.(II)I dated 27th placement of two Scheduled Caste November, 1972; E/254/5-Pt. (HI)! employees on the panel. With the dated 4th November, 1974; 17th July, introduction of reservation for Sche­ 1975 and E/254/5-76 (I) dated 29th duled Castes/ Scheduled Tribes in pro­ May, 1976 to ascertain actual number motion to Class II Service on the basis of persons ofliciating in ad hoc posts of selection from 20th July, 1974, prior to selections held in 1973; 1975 vacancies are being reserved in the and 1976; reasons for not giving total selections held thereafter. In the vacancies in answer (b) of statement selection held in 1975-76 there was no attached; parallel situation warranting dispensa­ tion of the type allowed in favour of (b) reasons and authority ordering Scheduled Caste candidates in the 1973 expansion of panel in 1973 to include selection. two Scheduled Caste candidates who were declared failed while no vacan­ (c) The Vigilance Report and its cies existed for them or alternatively contents are Confidential documents de-gazetting two general candidates and cannot be placed in the House in from panel. Reasons for not observ­ public interest. However, it is stated ing same principle for 1975-76 selec­ that there was no irregularity in the tion also while huge general vacancies selection as revealed by the Vigilance existed; Investigation.

(c) will he place copy of Deputy (d) Does not arise, as there was no Chief Vigilance Officer’s report along- irregularity. with the tabulated result of all three Chief Engineers of 1976-77 selection to ascertain true facts; and Wagons for Traa?i<>ortatlon of Salt

(d) action proposed to punish guilty 280. DR. SUSHILA NAYAR: WiH for non-observance of rules; provi­ the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased sions of manual and Ministry’s direc­ to state: tive besides furnishing false and in­ correct information? (a) if it is true that there are large stocks of salt lying in the open at THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Vedaraniam and Agasthiainpalti Rail­ THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS way stations for lack of railway (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) wagons; Information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. (b) whether it is also true that there is a shortage of salt in the coun­ (b) Prior to 20th July, 1974, there try requiring import of salt, whiclv was no reservation for Scheduled can be stopped if our own salt can be Castes and Scheduled Tribes in promo­ transported to the consumers in time; tion to Class U services on the basis of selection. In the selection held in 1973 (c) whether salt is being transport­ lor promotion to Class II Service in the ed in open wagons; and j4 i Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written: Answers 142

(d) if so, what is the approximate important Mail and Express trains has loss and what is being done or is pro­ been allotted to the Parliament House posed to be done to rectify the situa­ Reservation Office for meeting the de­ tion? mands ol Members of Parliament and persons sponsored by them. By and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN large, this quota is considered adequate. THE MINISTRY OF RAILAVAYS However, during Session periods when (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) the demands received exceed this During the period from January to quota, eflorts are made to get ac­ October, 1978, as many as 2,987 wagons commodation from the principal reser­ were loaded with edible salt from vation offices to the extent accomoda- Agasthiyarapalli and Vedaraniyam .tlon is available. stations and this loading was more than the programme of 2,920 wagons (c) The follov^nng steps have been given by the Salt Department. In taken to stop the malpractices in the addition, 2,065 wagons were loaded reservation of rail tickets: — with industrial and non-programmcd salt from these stations during this (i) The time-limit for advance period. At the end of October, 1978, reservation has been made six months there were 2.140 indents awaiting clear- at all stations by all trains, to avoid blocking of accommodation by anti­ social elements and providing a wider (b) No. choice to bonafide passengers- for planning their journeys in advance. (c> and (d). Salt is a commodity normally loaded in open wagons parti­ (ii) Efforts have been made to re­ cularly during fair weather months. duce the gap between the demand No separate statistics to assess the ex­ and supply by introducing new tent of loss incurred due to salt being trains, augmenting the loads of exist­ loaded in open wagons are maintained. ing trains, extending their runs, increasing the frequency of weekly/ Increased Quota of Reservation for biweekly trains and running holiday M.Ps. from Parliament Railway Re­ specials on important routes to clear servation Counter the traffic.

281. SHRi HALIMUDDIN AHMED: (iii) Additional booking windows Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be and reservation counters are opened pleased to state: and the working hours of reserva­ (a) whether the Government are tion offices extended to cater to ad­ considering to give more quota of ditional traffic. reservation for the Members of Par­ (iv) Reservation arrangements have liament and their friends and relations been streamlined and strict super­ from the Parliament Reservation vision is maintained at important Counter to facilitate the peoples points. representatives; (v) Checks have been intensified (b) if not; the reasons thereof; and with the help of anti-fraud syuads and Vigilance Organisation to detect (c) what are the steps that Govern­ anti-social elements and Railway ment have taken to stop the mal­ staff indulging in malpractices re­ practices on railway stations for reser­ garding reservation. A special vations of second class passengers? squad has been set up in Railway Ministry to intensify the checks with THE MINISTER OF STATE IN a view to root out corruption ih the THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS booking and reservation of rail (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) tickets. Strict action is taken against and (b). A quota of a few berths in the defaulters to improve matters. 143 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 144

(vi) R’ailvk'ays have been alerted to from the people of Western Orissa for keep a constant vigil on the corrupt extension 01 the Hatia-Jharsuguda and irregular activities of anti-social Passenger upto Bolangir, Jharsuguda- elements and take stern action Samabalpur passenger upto Titilagarh and effective measures to contain etc.; and the menace. (b) if so, the decision taken by Government to implement the pro­ posals?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 2B2. ifto irto frti : JRT THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS iftr ^ ^ (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes.

(b) 'Extension of 1 JH/2 JH Hatia- Jharsuguda passenger upto Bolangir ^ ^ VRfcr ^ and 1 JS/2 JS or 3JS/4 JS Jharsu- ^ ft, guda SambaIpur local upto Titala- garh is operationally not possible due (w) ^ ^ ipT irrf^ ^ ozif^l to lack of terminal facilities at Bolan­ 25 Sl^nrS T? SKfWH ^>Tn 9TI gir and Titlagarh. fCTT t .

(n) vn fsT»ni t »r

(«r) WT 45 ir ^ unj % 1- 2M. SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR: T^pnT •*i(wl w «i^5Pfr V v v rn Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be I^ IT I pleased to state:

(a) paiticulars 0- damage caused 4f^fiww ir*i to Railways by th*? recent floods; wpFTf) (^) % (^) : i?R?fhT (b) the imp!icalioii3 of the damage on wagon turn round; and ijifeaili ^ 25 afdyia Mi>WTr«^^T i f5nt ^nrtaniT ^ f?wr (c) whether railway have evolved a firm policy to reduce incidence of t«FIT ^ I *T^"f ^^TOET qPT ^4^1 damage due to such annual rccurriiig mfi ^ ^ f%tr f^zTT ^^rrcnrr Hoods? Pr # OTT ( 45^ # ^ irnr^, f>r# THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ♦ ^ 3Tr5jTrJT^ ^ I, THE MINISTRY OP RAILWAYS ftwmt ^ rT^fT ^PTTtpfr ^ (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) frfswrr ^ TO •f T ^ I The recent devastating floods resulted in wide-sperad breaches, washing away of track, serious damage to eight brid­ ges as also damage to signalling and Beprpsentation for Extension of Hatia- telecom, gear, traction overhead equip­ A inupkla Passenger Train ment, other equipment and some build­ ings, mainly of Eastern South Eastern . 283. SHRI GANANATH PRADHAN: & Northern Railways and to a Tesser WilJ the Minister of RAILWAYS be extent on North Eastern Railway. pleased to sta^ ated as a reeult of tke re­ received a number of representations cent floods In the country. 145 Written Answers KARTIKA 30. 1000 (SAKA) Wntten Angioers 14 6

(c) At the time of construction of iftii « finj irt S# new railway lines careful study is made of the terrain, rainfall, drainage 285. ^ ; TO and flood records of the area, in order VTPT ^ : to ensure that the new line is so desig­ ned aS not to be affected by the ravages of normal floods. The alignment is (^) ffRT 20 ^ selected carefuHy, the formation level I; of the track is kept above the highest known flood level in the area and brid­ (^) ges with adequate waterway are pro­ t; vided to let the flood waters of the rivers flow unhampoored, so that safe­ (^) ^ ^ ^ trtwrf ty of the railway line is not endan­ ^ JRTTT ^ ^ ? gered. Special attention is paid to bridges^ which are normally designed for a flood discharge of 50 years fre­ quency after a careful consideration of hydrology and past history of t qr 7?? ^ i floods. Their foundations are designed to withstand even heavier floods. (^) 1-8-78 %

Amongst the steps taken to prevent ^ TO # n w flood damage are the following: — it ^ miVR frqi iTZn ^ qr ^ ^ ^ | 1. All bridges are carefully ins­ pected every year and repairs to JT it I \ ^ ip; substructure, flooring, guide-bunds, pithching ctc. carried out as neces­ ^ 3 ^ ^ r f I ^ sary. ^T^

3. Bridge cells on the Zonal Rail­ 286. SHRI GOVINDA MUNDA: Will ways review the adequacy of water­ the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ way of important and vulnerable CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased bridges. While rebuilding the bridges to state: may be widened, raised, re-sited or additional bridges constructed, as a (a: details of foreign technologies result thereof, as considered neces­ procured by I.D.P.L. for different sary. drugs;

4. Wherever justified and other­ (b) date of procurem.ent, date of wise feasible, the formation is raised implementation, amount paid, coun­ and/or strengthened, pitched with try from which purchased, results stones or diverted away from the achieved; and flood affected area. (c) whether Government are satis­ fied with the performajice of I.D.P.L.; Despite aTl the measures mentioned if not, what steps Government pro­ above, certain amount of flood damage poses to take for the change of the on the vast railway system during management? abnormal floods is unavoidable. 147 Written Anstocrs NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 148

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, technical services, training of Indian AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZER’S personnel and equipment to be import­ (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) ed ^rom U.S.S.R. and (b). Technologies for the following drugs were obtained from M /s. Tech- The above technologies have been noexport, Moscow (USSR), in accor­ introduced in the plants of Indian dance with contracts signed with them Drugs & Pharmaceuticals Limited. The on the 28th March, 1962, for Antibio­ results achieved are indicated in the tics Plant. Rishikesh, and on the 13th Statements attached. June, 1962, for Sjaithetic Drugs Plant, In the recent past, iDPL has obtain­ Hyderabad. ed technology for the production of Penicillin G Potassium Salt, Tetracy­ Antibiotics cline, Erythromycin, Semi-synthetic Sodium penicillin. Procaine penicil­ penicillins, Doxycycline Hyclate and lin, Streptomycin sulphate, Tetracycline Niacinamide from abroad. Technical Hydro-chloride, Oxytetracycline Hydro­ know-how with Strains and basic en­ chloride, Nystatin, Chlorotetracycline. gineering details for K Penicillin, Tetracycline, Erythromycin, and Tech­ Synthetic Drugs nical know-how and basic engineering Phenacetin, Sulphanilamide, Sulpha- for Doxycycline and Semi-synthetic guanidine, Sulphadimidine, Vitamin penicillin were procured from M /s. Bl, Sodium Sulphacyl, Folic Acid, Farmafin of Italy. The total fee is U.S Vitamin B2, Analgin, Amidopyrine, §1.55 million. Piperazine salts. Diethyl Carbamazine Technical know-how for the produc­ citrate, Nicotinamide (Niacinanide), I.N.H., Phenobarbitone, Acetazolamide. tion of Niacinamide alongwith basic engineering was procured ‘from M/s. The Government of U.S.S.R. provi­ A. B. Bofors of Sweden and total fee ded a loan of Rs. 9.52 crores to cover payable is Sw. Kr. 20 lakhs.

Proektremefd Ac;reemcnt Documents signed on received on

Pcnicillin G .

Scmi-Synthetic

penicillin 22-6-77

Tetracycline

Erythromycin

Doxycyline . 14-6-76 22-6-77

Nicotinamide 29-6-76 “] ] Niacin 29-6-76 !>- Complete dpcMi.ments received at site dur­ Methyl Ethyl PyriHine . 29-6-76 ing 1978.

Conpleturn schedule :—

TetracycHnc June 1979

Penicillin G . September 1979 149 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers i^ o

Agreement Documents Piocurf ment signed on received on

Erythromycin September 1979

Semi-synthetic penicillins . September 1979

Nicotinamide, etc. . October 1979

Amount paid and countries from which purchased is as under:

Amount in Country u .s .s (upto III) instalment)

Penicillin O . 3,20,000 Italy

Somi-synthetic penicillins 3,50,000 Db. Tetracycline 2,33»488 Do. Erythromycin 2,50,800 Do. Doxycvrline ..... 24,000 Do.

IDPL technologists have received taken and results obtained were on training in the plants of the collabo­ the higher side than the minimum rators in Italy in the production o^ guaranteed yield provided in the cont­ Penicillin, Semi-synthetic Penicillins, ract. Tetracycline and Erythromycin. As per Agreement, process demonstration (c) The performance of India Drugs of 10 batches in the Italian plants in & Pharmaceuticals Limited is kept the presence of tbe technologists ^^^re under constant review.

Production o f Antibiotics at ID PL — Rishikesh during the last three years

YEAR S. No. Products Unit *975-76 1976-77 1977-78

1. Pot. PcnicilHn Saleable . MMU 4-131 23-750 8* 119

2. Sodium Penicillin . 37' 3a4 20 980 37-435

3. Procaine penicillin . «7'552 19-392 30-699

4 . Streptomycin sulphate 45-6.5 44.924 3 9 'O^t

76.224 70-660

6. Tetracycline Base • ** 7 - 266 5- 160 8-466

7. Oxytetracyclinc Hcl. 41 05* 36-539 34*7*7

8. Oxytctracycline base ** 0412 — 0-148 *51 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Ansn crs 152

IP^^D’jrin O 'J OP PERFORMANCE OFIDPL—HYDERABAD

During the period 1975-7610 1977-78 UNIT : TONNES

SI. No. Drugs 1975-76 1976-77 1977-78

1. Pbcnicetin .... 152-000 '63-50, 188-35 2. Sulphanilamidc(Pharm) . 58- 9110 la- 10

3- Sul phaguanidin c • I03-050 244-GO 185-70

4- Sulphadnmdine 472-935 471•OU 309- 75

5- Sod. Sulphacyl 30- 9^5 41-70 i6- 25

6. Vitamin Bi 27-725 33'C'5 34*94

7 - Vitamin B2 5 • 000 6 8ii 7 81

8 . Folic Acid 3-633 4-42 4 6 1

9 - Analgin . 225-282 281 ' 02 302-85

10. Amidopyrine . 4-367 2' 46 10 93 11. Pip, Hydrate . i 6 -180 20-53 9-53

T2 . Pip^Adrpatc . 41*275 i6 ‘ fio 25 65

>3- Pip. Phosphate 25-440 30* 28 20-57

>4- Pip. Citrate IG- 364 29- 21 53-«•

*5- Ditraiine Citrate • 16. Nicotinamide . 0 16

J7 - Acetazolamide 735 2 11 18. Pbenobarbitone lo-221 >2-:,5 18 51

19 - Sod. Phenobarbitoac 954 I • 00 3 03 ... __— ..... - — ___ Misuse of loan licensinir system by (c) the action taken by Govern­ dni|: compiinies ment against .such companies and the steps taken for curbing such mal­ 287. DR. P. V. PERIASAMY: Will practices? the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM to state: AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) whether a number of drug (a) and (b). Though no specific companies have miisused the loan study has ’ been conducted to htensing system; determine the extent of mis-utilisation of loan licensing facilities by drug com­ (b) if so, the names of such com­ panies, certain instances have come to panies and the circumstances under the notice of Government of companies which they have been able to do so; having their products manufactured and under loan licensing arrangements 153 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 154

without obtaining requisits licences THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM under the I(IWcR) Act or producing AND CHEMICALS AND FERTI­ through such arrangements in excess LIZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHU- of the capacities licensed to them. GUNA): (a) and (by. A spe­ cial cell, which will initiate ad­ (c) The new policy in this behalf is ministrative measures to ensure contained in the Statement on the new adequate representation of Scheduled ‘drug policy' laid on the Table of the Castes and Scheduled Tribes candi­ Lok Sabha on 29th March, 1978, which dates in public enterprises under the is as follows: — control of the Department of Petro­ leum, has been set up in the Chair­ (1) existing turnover of foreign man’s Office in Indian Oil Corporation. companies under loan licence would The work of this cell is being looked be treated as trading and, therefore, after by Adviser (Personnel) of the non-appendix-I activity for purposes Corporation, who does not belong to FERA; Scheduled Caste/Scheduled Tribe com­ munities. (2) in future loan licences would not be granted to foreign companies; (c) There has been no delay in and setting up this cell nor have officers in the Marketing Division of Indian (3) activities taken up under loan Oil Corporation adopted any anti- licence, without an approval under Scheduled Caste/Scheduled Tribe IDR Act, if otherwise required, attitude. would not be regularised. (d) Does not arise.

Constitution af special cells for the welfare of Harijaii employees in TIW qiF t v 1ST iftqw ^ toRrT Indian Oil Corporntion (Marketing Division) 289. 28S. SHRI MAHI LAL: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM. CHEMI­ TOT ^ fifT : CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to refer to the reply given to Unstarred (^) ^ ^ question No. 4771 dated the 29th August, l ‘)78 and state; I; (a) whether th3 special cells for the welfare of Plarijan employees have since been constituted in the Indian Oil Corporation of India (Marketing Division) headed by a (^) ^ ^ ^ person belonging to Scheduled Caste/ Scheduled Tribe communities; ^ ;j5nn t ^ cTctmfr •jftrr ^ ? (b) if so, the constitution thereof;

(c) if not, the reasons for making delay and adopting anti-Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes attitude by ^RW»r) : ^ ^ I the officers in the Marketing Division (^) 57^ ^ ^ TSm I of Indian Oil Corporation; and (^) fl'TVTX ^ ^ (d) when such a cell will be con­ stituted? iptf # #aiT t I 155 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 156

RaUway strike in Andhra Pradesh 2. After considering further repre­ sentations from the running staff con­ 290. SHRi P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: cerned of the Southern Railway, in­ W ill the Minister of RAILWAYS be structions were issued to the Railways pleased to state: concerned in the first week of October 1978 that .the decision, referred to (a) whether it is a fact that the above, should be implemented expedi­ Railways officials in Vijayawada and tiously and completely by 31-12-78. other places in Andhra Pradesh went The action to implement the decision on lightning strike in October; was initiated by the concerned Rail­ ways and consequently the running (b) if so, the reasons therefor; staff of the Madras Division of the Southern Railway were given one (c) their demands; and goods train. As a protest against this action, the Loco Running staff of (d) the decision taken by Govern­ the Vijayawad Division of the ment regarding their demands? South-Central Railway went on a lightening strike on the night of 14/ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 15th October, 1978 demanding that MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI action to implement the above decision SHEO NARAIN): (a) to (d). For should be kept in abeyance till the some years there has been a demand staff concerned of the two Railways from the Loco Running staff of the came to an ageed solution on this Madras Division of the Southern Rail­ issue. Accodingly, instructions were way for allowing them reasonable given to the Southern and South share in the passenger and goods trains Central Railway Administrations to run on the Northeast line based on the consider further stages of implementa­ consideration the route upto Gudur tion gradually after some time. belongs to the Southern Railway. Efforts made to find an agreed solu­ Target for provision of domestic Gas tion on this issue between the represen­ Connections in rural and Urban Areas tatives of the staff concerned at the Divisional and Zonal levels of the two 291. SHRI NARENDRA SINH: Will Railways; as well as at the Railway the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ Board level, did not yield any result, CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased Consequently, after the matter was to state:

(a) when the organisation name­ Progress made by ONGC in Godavari ly Rail India Technical and Econo­ Basin and other Places mic Service Ltd was created under the Ministry of Railways and the 293. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: functions thereof; Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (b) the composition of its Board be pleased to state the progress of of management and their scales of work done by ONGC in Godavari pay and the work undertaken by Basin at Narsapur, Andhra Pradesh this organisation so far; and and other places in the country if any? 159 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers i6 o

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM Commission. It will be possible for AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ the Government to finalise its policy ZERS: (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): On after the report of the Committee be­ the basis of the extensive geological comes available. and geophysical surveys carried out so far in the Godavari Basin, the (b) and (c). No survey has bo far ONGC is presently drilling a parame- been made for construction of the line tric-cum-exploratory well on the from Rishikesh to Karnaprayag. It Narsapur structure in Andhra Pra­ would be possible to consider its con­ desh. Against the targetted depth of struction in view of prohibitively high 5000 metres, this well has so far been anticipated cost of the line which drilled to a depth of 1833 metres. falls in hilly terrain and very limited prospects of traffic. Oil exploration in other parts of the country is continuing by the ONGC and so far drilling has been undertaken on 171 structures in the onshore areas. Out of these structures, 161 structures 29 5* Otid THT fTTT^T l Roft have been tested so far; six are under ^ f»rr IV ; testing and the remaining four struc­ tures are under drilling. Out of the (^) ^ TRPTPf ^ ^ 161 structure tested so far, 54 struc­ ^ ftnn w | ; tures have proved to be oil/ gas beaiing. In the offshore (^ ) Pft ^ areas, the ONGC has so far undertaken drilling on 28 structures, ^ ^ ^ ^ of which 20 structures have been tested and of structures have been (^) ^ ^ tcR found to be oil/gas bearing. ^ ^ Wi I ? Eailway line from Rishikesh to Karnaprayag ^ itroro R TFW wA ftni ) 294. SHRI JAGANNATH SHARMA: (^) ^ (^t). thiprh h m m * WiU the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: ITT ^ — (a) whether a comprehensive long­ . HI if I 5TTFT term plan has been drawn up for 1 construction of Railway lines in the iT^) hilly and backward areas of the 2. »rnTSTTT-4^HHI country;

(b) whether it is a fact that cons­ 3. jfrrc truction of Railway line from Rishi­ (wH() kesh to Karnaprayag has been in­ cluded in the plan; and (c) if so, what are the details 5n^5TTT^ gq I — thereof? 1. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2. ssrsrtrr MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) A National VnSTFTl Transport Policy Committee for formu­ iftT. TO #3^ ^ ^ ^ ^ lation of overall transport policy for OT>ft ffTTT mmim vt ftw? 5fTw- the country including the Railways has hf^n appointed by the Planning I6 l Written Answers KARTIKA Sfl. 1900 (SAKA) Written Ansyjoers i6

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WTW ft> ^rfofjr^nr ^ tutions over years. The institutions in­ # ^TPT iff I ^ ^ «ftro creased from 3,241 in I960 to 14,501 in PrftCffV ^ ^ ^ ^ TT?^ f^rftsTvf 1977 without proportionate and timely increase in the judge strength. ^ ftr aFT5T?T ^ # iWyT R ^ I (c) Appointment of retired judgefl to sit and act as judges of the Supreme 9. ^ ^TTffhr Court and High Courts is made by pfT^’r^ ui ?ht3 ^ jttt f^nrfjtt ^ srfwTOT ^ the respective Chief Justices in accor­ imitfirrT ITTW t I 2T?[ ^5F dance with the provisions of articles ^rm ^rri^.iT t ^iVr TFfj? ^f^?rr 128 and 224-A with the previous con- -r^ ^ i .sent of the President. At present there is no proposal for the appointment of 10. f i=Mf*ird‘W ^ an ad-hoc judge in the Supreme r*^«?^iqc) SrV?^ ^ '^r4i'Ai ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Court. There is one ad-hoc judge in the ^ I «-AiiAiMi^f f^^r^rrfsRTTT Gauhati High Court. Besides this, pro­ posals for appointment of two ad-hoc STF^ t t ^ Tnr '4TT ^ t I r r ^ % i?rr^ ^ rT«rr ^ -n^^rTijff ?t«tt judges in the Andhra Pradesh High HTMH ^ ^ ^ Court and one ad-hoc judge in the f?T^ ^ 5fr^ ^ SFrTR ^ Patna High Court are under considera­ Jlrt^sfr ^ dcMi<;»i ^TT^ ^T^,f ^ ^ tion. Proposals received for the ap­ ?T^ I Tzrnrnrzit ^ f^^rfy^R !tt^ t pointment of judges under these pro­ ift WlfFfT SR far§W ^ H?TRT f^HTT W taken by the Government to speed up I the disposals are given in the attached Statement. Cases pending in Supreme Court and Statement High Courts The following steps have been taken 299. SHRI D. AMAT: Will the Mini­ to speed up the disposal uf cases:- ster of LAW, JUSTICE AND COM­ PANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (i) The sanctioned Judfjc strength of the Supreme Court has been raised (a) the number of cases pe^nding in from 13 to 17 (excluding the Chief Supreme Court of India; Justice) with effect from the 31 De­ (b) what are the causes for the cember, 1977 by amending the Supreme delay in their disposal; and Court (Number of Judges) Act, 1956. The vacancies occuring on 1-1-1978 and (c) whether Government propose to 22-2-1978 On the retirement of Justice appoint on an ad-hoc basis more Goswami and Justice M. H. Beg as judges to clear the backlog in dis­ well as two of the newly created posts posal of cases in Supreme Court and have been filled. High Courts, if not^ what other steps the Gover^nment propose to take in (ii) A substantial number of vacan­ the matter? c ie s in the High Courts have been fil­ ■U/ led up. Initiative has been taken by THE MINISTRY OF LAW JUS­ the Central Government to call for TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS proposals from the State Authorities/ (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) The Chief Justices and wherver required numebr of regular hearing matters reminders have been issued to the con­ pending on 1st November, 1978 in the cerned State Authorities/Chief Jus­ Supreme Court was 14,833. tices, During the period from 1st April, 1977 to 15th November, 1978 as (b) The major cause for delay in many as 86 fresh appointments have diflposal has been an increase in insti­ been made. 167 Written Answer, NOVEMBER 21, 1978 • Written Answers i 68

(iii) The judge strength have also (vi) The Supreme Court, with the been increased gince 1-4-1977 in the approval of the President, has recent­ High Courts in respect of which pro­ ly amended the Supreme Court Rules posals were received. This increase has to facilitate early disposal of cases in been made in the following High the Supreme Court Courts from the dates the posts are filled up.

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(w) (iv) Letters have been addressed to yfW r # TfrmTTmq', w. the Bar Councils and Bar Assiciations ^ q r ^ p R rfhc srfirvr^ i978 of various States requesting them for apt 5 ^ ^ 55TOTT, 1 9 7 8 ^ cooperation and also for suggestions q r 2 . 4 16.6 q w ^ ^ ^ for speedy disposal of cases. iftTT q^ 3.1 q w % 9. 2 qx# 2: ^ I (v) The Law Commission have been requested to suggest suitable measures ( n ) 1 9 7 8 ^ 5?TTr to tackle the general problem of ar­ 1 9 7 8 ^ iT ^ rears. They are seized of the matter. irrf^ ^ *nrir-*TT^ smr t-—

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^ s>T fsrtsr fw r t iq7s»#.« THE MINISTER OF STATE Ilf w fo % iftTsprr ^ ftnrt^T 1978 .# THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS wrn 5 ^ ^N'TfVTT V f^Ttr (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) to (c). ^ ^ ^ f^r rr?f f^^rr m\ Proposals for provision of a footover- I bridge at Kalawa Road and Vaitarna Railway stations have been examined. (^) ^rff^T?pT ?rni ^ Cost of providing these will be Rs. 1.7 «>fT7: 10 000 ^ ^ JtTT^rr arrft^nr lakhs for Kalawa Road and Rs. 2.00 ^ t I lakhs for Vaitarna. However, provi­ sion of foot overbridge at Kalawa {^) sV^:f »rt Road has been only considered justi­ IKT ^nnT-5TqTT TT pTErtfTrT 1?T 1 TT ^ fied. It is proposed to consider thii ^ ^TIT I work for inclusion in the Railway** Works Programme in 1980-81 subject (^) ^»T jfriRT ^ ^ ^ to availability of funds. ift-TT'f ^ qrf>TT ^ft9FT ^ ^ sqrqTfTzff # ;3^Tfff ^ (d) and (e). Do not aris. ?tt^ TfTT wk vfigr^ ^ #r ^ ^rfhr^ RaUway Platform Tickets son. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be plea­ sed to state: Constmclion of orer bridges at Kalawa (a) whether it is a fact that the Railway platform ticket is valid for only two hours; and (b) to avoid the penalty what a 304. SHRI V. K. MHALGI; Will the person is expected to do when his Mjnist(^r RATI.WAYS be pleased to guest comes by a train which is lata refer to the reply p:ivcn to Unstarred by more than two hours? question No. 8745 on 2nd May, 1978 regarding construction of overbridges THE MINISTER OF STATE IN and state: ;’~ THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes.

(a) whether Government have (b) To avoid the penalty, a person taken a decision on the representation lor the construction of foot over­ can purchase a platform ticket after bridges at Kalawa road and Vaitama ascertaining the exact arrival time ol railway stations in Thana District of a train from the enquiry office at the Maharashtra; station.

(b) if so, when and whether they Pron:aiiime of Completion of Joint shall be included in future works pro- Venture Formulation Unit near frainmes; Nan>ur 306. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will the (c) what is the estimated cost of Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ each foot overbridge; CALS a n d FERTILIZERS be pleased to refer to the reply given to Unstarred (d) when these foot overbridges Question No 4867 on 29th August, are likely to be completed; and 1978 re, setting up an Antibiotic Unil in Nagpur and state; (e) if no decision has, so far, been reached, the reasons thereof and when (a) what is the phased programme it shall be taken up? of completion of proposed joint ven­ 375 Written Answert NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Anin-m

ture formulatioii unit near Nagpur THE MINISTER OF STATE IN in Maharashtra by Hindustan Anti­ THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS biotics Ltd., and State Industrial and (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Not yet. Investment Corporation Ltd.; and

(b) what shall be the labour poten­ (b) Does not arise in view of reply tial of the project which involves a to (a) above. total capital outlay of about three •rores? (c) (i) The claim extendmg to a period of over 14 years (dating back THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM to 1-4-54) was preferred for the first AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ time in July ’77 and its vrification is ZERS (SHRI H, N. BAHUGUNA): bound to be time-taking; (b) It also (a). The phased programme for com­ includes claim in respect of certain pletion of formulation unit near Nag­ building built before 1-4-37 which do pur will be as folowa:— not attract the service charges; and (iii) The Railway has also to recover (i) March 1979 to Commcncemmt of Oct. 1979 Civil Works and charges for the services rendered by completion of plant them to the Kalyan Municipal Council buildings for which they have to finalise their claims and then adjust the same from (ii) Dcc. I97Q Machinery erection and commLssioning the claim due to to Kalyan Municipal Council which again will take some (iii) Mid. Jan. 1980 . Trial Production time. The Central Railway has been (iv) Mid. Feb. 1980 . Commrnrf mcnt of directed to expedite this matter. r .1 pro- • I’.K.rii n. (b) The total work forme required Railway Accidents and Deraibnents will be about 150.

S06. SHRI KUMARI ANANTHAN: Central Railway BoUdingg Kalyan Will the Minister of RAILWAYS b# pleased to state: 807. SHRI R. K MHALGI: Dill the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to refer to the reply given to U. S. Q. (a) the number of Railway acci­ N a 4935 on 29th August 1978 regard­ dents including derailments which ing Central Railway Buildings in took place during the last thre# Kalyan and fitate: months in various railway zones;

(a) whether Government have by (b) the number of human live* now scrutinized the claim of lost, the amount of damage caused Rs. 3,80,216 made by Kalyan Munici­ to the railways in money; and pal Council (Maharashtra) relating to •ervice charges due from Railway (c) the compensation pai3 to the administration; Yictims in those accidents?

(b) if so, whether payments have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN been made to the concerned Munici­ THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS pal Council, if so, when and the (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) the num­ •mount of payment; and ber of train accidents in the catego­ ries of collisions, derailments, level (c) if not, what are the reasons of crossing accident and fires in traing delay and when the payment shall which occurred on the various Zonal be made? Railways during the last three monthg 177 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 178

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Number of pcrions killrcl • 25 ^Ti?Fr crerr ^ (c) An ex-gratia payment of Rfl. 70,150 ha3 been made to the vic­ ^ ^ 10,000 tims/their dependents of these train V %nm^ ^ sTTftrfT^ | •ccidents. Only 11 claims fop compen­ ^ tftr SRT 3TRt ppir sation have so far been received by ^ ^ ^ ^ ?rnr «he Ex-officio Claims Commissioners. However, the claimants can file their HTHTT 'TT «fk f?mfur ^ •laims within a period of 3 months wTviY ^^rr^zff ^ i from the date of occurrence of the accident under Indian Railways (^ ) ^ (^). Act, 1890. Payment of the compensa­ i (VirnT ^ «T5lT5TXft^ tion will be expeditiously arranged r^'TT^ ^ ^ ^TfET^fTf by the railway administration to the •laimants on the basis of the verdict ^ ^T3JT fw w 11 ^rftrftr of ex-officio Claims Commissioners. ^ ^ ^TTT^ ^ f^^N" No claim has so far been settled. ^ otWI Vt WWi ^ %flT f^?T * tR 309* ITo ftr^ : lOTR ifk xfi ^ r n ^ ^ Tt^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Pf : ^ ^ tift-1 STF^ ^rftrfir ^Tvi\i ^ 1979^

lft¥T-qW ^ i firtr CTTT f^T fRT 3TRT ^ ^ xnm t cT^TT iT*rT$ ft; i STT^ ^ ^ «(Prnft vpNt^ ^ ^TIT^I 179 Written Answer, NOVEMBER . 19TB Written Answers 21 l U fipufw i ^ nriV IT inwr s n r ^ ^ irr^ rfk ^ fr^ 310. TTo TfWlA • ^ ^ jpi" ^ ^^T^TeBT ^ttt fen" «fp3^ir; i/Vr ^ fJTT ir : (^) fJTT irniTiT x^ ^ ^ ( f ^ ) «fti; ftr^K 1 3 5 ^ qrfr ^ TfH t ^ ^ ITT iftr 15K ^ ip rarr i .'' fw iR V ^ ^ w. vrmr ^ wm I ; ?T1T TfTPFT irtr ^fWTWf ^rwru ^ W rrPM’ ( ^ ) w t («rV p»rar?it • 5 T # ir^cr ^ 5Pt ^ (^) JTRfiT^Tr ^ ^ *F»«TfN^ST?T f f t ^ ; rriftort ST^ ^ ^4-irrT ^nrt 5prrr (m^ q * ^ ^ ( t t ) wr WT^nr «ft w t^ # ferft ^ 2 3#nn'^ rrtjrfjTqr Tr^TJ^fenr ^nfrm / ^ P=nr r?^r in¥^ % irrr q ?r^ -sR^f^'i 3q q-^crf^tpr q^yinrrrar^ f ; %ftr ^rVr 2 5rfT»R m r \ f r ^ ^■'T ^ s q f ^ T WT[ ^ r^Jif^^\ c ( t W ^ ^ ^ fd^RgRT TT T?m Hr Tf^ ^t^^p t t t trmrrfem sftr f ^ n f ! ^ r r n ^ ^ JTT rj ^ ^ - j ^ I I

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Inwe of Industrial Licences to Orga- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN MiMi Sector Units Located in Back­ THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS ward Areas (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a)

314. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN­ Siair Rcutr DIT: Will the Minister of PETRO­ K iloiiictrrs LEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS be pleased to state; I Bih.M-

(a) what facilities in the matter of 2. (ilfjaiilt industrial licensing and release of Madliy;; Pi ad« h ;;< 2 • O canalised raw materials are being extended to the organised sector 4 . ra 74fi-o units located in centrally backward Orissit 247-0 areas in new drug policy: and ♦'). I'i.inil Niiilii I <)(')• f)

(b) how the facilities are proposed 7 . I'tta? Piadrsh ^'^8*5 to be improved in the near future? \Vr: i Brn.^al 1 \ (jH' 0

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM <). I, nil n 'I'fr T iM r > ( J Dt il;i .:4' “ AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ 47!0-n ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and (b). The New Drug Policy does not separately cover this aspect. (b) No. However, the incentive scheme for (c) Does not arise. such units as a whole, as announced by Government of India is contained in (d) The density of traffic on these Chapter VI of the Guidelines for In­ dead-end branch lines is not sufficient­ dustries published by the Department ly high to make electrification on these of Industrial Development. These sections financially viable and qualify facilities are also available to the drug for electrification. units.

Names of Oil Producing States

316. SHRI AHMED M. PATEL: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ Extension of Electric Traction CALS a n d fertilizers be pleased to state: 315. SHRI GANGADHAR APPA BURANDE: Will the Minister of (a) the names of oil producing RAILWAYS be pleased to state: States in the country;

(a) the total mileage of electric (b) the rate of royalty being paid traction extended, State-wise; to each state;

(c) whether any request has been (b) whether Government contem­ made by the State Governments to plate to electrify all dead-end branch increase the rate of royalty; line trains enroute where electrifica­ tion is resorted; (d) if so, the names of such States; and (c) if so, the details thereof; and (e) the reaction of Government of (d) if not, thg reaaoM thereof? India thereto? l89 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers i9 o

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM Issue of Induiptrial Licence AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): 318. SHRI MOTIBHAI R. CHAU- (a) Assam and Gujarat. DHARY: WiU the Minister of PETRO­ LEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTIU- ZERS be pleased to state: (b) The rate of royalty being paid (a) details of pending industrial on crude oil and casing head conden- licences; applications of foreign com­ eate, to the Slates of Assam and Guja­ panies, names of drug involved; rat is Rs. 42.00 per tonne from 8-9-1976. (b) whether they are of high tech­ nology or not; (c) how many industrial licences (c) Yes, Sir. and letters of intent have been issued to foreign companies since present (d) Assam and Gujarat. Government took over, names of items involved; and (d) reasons to why licences were (e) Government have decided that granted to foreign companies? the existing rales of royalty would contiune till it reviewed in 1980. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) The requisite details in respect of foreign companies having direct foreign equity exceeding 40 per cent Manufacture of Qrs:anic and Inorganic are indicated in Statement I laid on Chemicals by Foreign Companies the Table of the House. [Placed in JAhrarij. See No. LT-2780/78]. 317. SHRI MOTIBHAI R. CIIAU- (b) The criteria for high techno­ DHARY. Will the Minister of PETRO­ logy of bulk drugs are still to be deter- LEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ rnned by the Committee set up for ZERS be pleased to state items of Or­ the purpose. ganic and inorganic Chemicals being (c) and (d). The requisite, details manufactured by foreign companies at in respect of foreign companies having present with details of industrial direct foreign equity exceeding 40 licences under which they are manu­ per cent are indicated in Statement II facturing them? laid on the Table of the House, f Placed in Library. See No. LT- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM 2780/781. AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): Items mentioned in Form ‘A’ or ‘B* at Items of (i) major organic chemicals the time of registration by Foreign such as Pesticides, Dyes and Dye In­ Drug Companies termediates. Rubber Chemicals, Phe­ 319. SHRI MOTIBHAI R. CHAU- nol, Acetylene black an^ (ii) inorga­ DHARY: Will the Minister of PEFO- nic chemical items which are being LEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ presently manufactured by foreign ZERS be pleased to state: companies having foreign equisity of more than 40 per cent with details of (a) what are the items mentioned Industrial Licences under which these in Form A or B at the time or regis­ are being manufactured, are shown in tration in the applications of foreign the statement laid on the Table of the companies having more than 26 per House. [Placed in Library, See No. cent foreign equity, productions of LT—2779/]. these items in 1972 and 1977; 191 Written Antwerg NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answen

(b) whether any epplicatlons for taken in pursuance of Government’s fuller utilisation of capacity were decision on the Hathi Committee Re­ received from foreign companies by port, all the firms have now beem Government on these applications; asked to furnish such data. The re­ and quisite details in r e je c t of certain companies to the extent available are, (c) if so, details thereof? however, indicated in the Statement.

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (b) and (c) When the scheme for AND CHEMICALS AND FERTIU- fuller utilisation of capacity was an­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) nounced on 1st January, 1972, com­ Since the Registration Certificates panies having direct foreign equity of were issued in the fifties, the details more than 50 per cent were being con­ asked for are not immediately avails sidered as foreign companies. Infor­ able. However, as part of the exer­ mation in respect of such companies is cise for consolidation of licences and being collected and will be laid on the other exercises being currently under­ Table of the House.

Statement

FORMA

SI. Name o f the Party Name of the manufactured Capacity No. products

I. M/s. Boots. Tabl'^ts 2,8oo per minute

IJquIJs 400 gallons per day

Powders 1 ton per day

r>intmenrs 500 lbs. per day

These fissures are general in character and production of any particular items varies accord­ ing to the nature o f the ingredients.

2. M/s. Glaxo Iiiquids 1,20,000 lbs. per year (all liquids particularly Livogen Elixilr valibrom, Elixir Myancsine, Syrup Cocillana, Elixir Ephc- drin and other liquids).

Ampoules and vials 60.00.000 ampoules per year or 12.00.000 vials.

Tablets, assorted coated or uncoat­ ed...... 12,00,00,000 approximately per year

Powder (Cosmetics.) 7,20,000 lbs. per year

3. M/s.May & P.ik -r Tablets (Sulpha etc.) 20,00,00,000 per month.

Ephedrine Hcl Powder. . . 500 lbs. per month.

Sulpha Drugs such as S u i^ ame- thoxazole, Sulpha pyridine etc. 5 totis per month 193 Ans^wera KA^^^KA 3Q, i^KA) Wr«|^n i <^4

Injectables 200,000 amps per month.

Emulsions and Miscellaneous Medical Products. . . As required.

4 M/s. Pfizer T . B. Products

PAS Granules 6,000 kilos monthly.

Isonex tablets. 30,000,000 Tabs, monthly.

Vitamin Tablets

Multivitaplex Tablets . ^ 8,000,.oooTabs. Monthly. Becoplex & similar tablets.

Sulfa Drugs

Sulfadiazine . Sulfaguanidine 10,000,000 tabs. Monthly. Chloramphenicol

Antibiotics Vial Filling

Penicillin, Di-Penicillin . ^ 750,000 vials monthly. Leocillin, Streptomycin & PAM J

Various other Pharmaccutical inanLifacturing such as Sterile Solutionj, Sterile Substances and general tabletin^, manufacturing of ointments and syrups.

FORM B

SI. nfibf'pnrty Linr'sof manufacture Proposed Installed Capacity

N q . pKiposed

I M/s. Parke Davis Chloromycetin Liquid (for Chil- 20,000 x 60 cc. Botth s/month. drcn)

Chloromycctin 700,000 X 250 mgm. Kapscals/ month.

Other Kapseal products. 500,000 Kapseals/month

Powders products. . 2.000 pounds/month.

Fluid products 20.000 pints/month.

Malt products. 40.000 pounds/month.

Tablets . I ,oc)0,of)o Tablet^moQtfa. 195 Writte n An*toer* NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Amwers 196

OonrtraettOB oT ovw Btldfe at Raya- Cases Peadlac Disposal la mgb Courts rada 322. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: WiU the Minister of LAW, JUOTICE 320. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased w m the Minister of RAILWAYS be to state: pleased to state: (a) the cases pending for disposal (a) whether his Ministry received in High Courts of States; and a proposal from South Eastern Rail­ Cb) the steps taken by this Minis­ way to construct over bridge on Rail­ try and the steps for speedy disposal way level crossing in the Rayagada of those cases which are pending for town of Orissa State; many years?

(b) i:f so, the details thereof; and THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI (c) if not, the reasons thereof? SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) and (b ;. Two statements are attached.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Stmtement I THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS JN'o. of cases pending in various High Coujts as (SHRI SHEO NARAIN^: (a) No. on 30-6-1978

(b) and (c). Does not arise. Namt* of the High Cc>ijrt No of cas('s pendiiii; Korapat to Parvatipuram Railway Allahabad .... ^39.3>5

Andhra Pradesh '6,735 321. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: Bombay . 54.9“5 Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: Calcutta 69,380 Delhi . 28,946 (a) the money sanctioned for survey of new Railway line from Koraput to Gauhati . 6,727 Parvatipuram (S. E. Railway) for the Gujarat . 12,320 year 1978-79; Himachal Pradesh 4.563 (b) time fixed for survey and sub­ mission of report for approval; and Jammu & Kashmir . 5,339 Karnataka (c) the progress made, so far, in 4i,f»47 this regard? Krrala 37.3fl9 Madhya Pradesh 46,652 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS Madras . 52.919 (SHRI SHEO NARAIN); (a) to (c). A P!reliminary Englneering-cum-Traffic Orissa 6,958 Survey for construction of the broad P atna . 32,433 gauge line from Koraput to Salur/ Parvatipuram has been sanctioned at Punjab & Haryana . 42.599 a cost of Rs. 12.5 lacs. An outlay of Rajasthan 22,964 Rs. 7 lacs has been sanctioned for this survey in the year 1978-79. The sur­ Sikkim . vey work has been entrusted to Rail Total cases pending in High India Technical and Economic Sur- Courts .... 6,22,030 vices recently. The survey Is required to be onmpleted within 18 months. ♦Miscellaneous eases arc not included. 197 WftttCfi Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAJCA) Written Answ m 198

Ptodnctton and Import of Crude

Allahabad (ii) A quantity of approximately 15 million tonnes is expected to be im­ Madhya Pradesh ported during the current year. Karnataka (b) The quantum expected from Himachal Pradesh Bombay High during current year is as under: Patna

Rajasthan C ru d e 3*40 million tcnrcs

D elhi Associated gas . T-ifimillicn cubic rnt ncs per day.

T o t a l 28 (c) and (d). The following import 29 arrangements have been made for crude imports during 1978: (iii) Letters have been addressed to Irr;n M illion tonnes. the Bar Councils and Bar Associations 5-2 5 Of various States requesting them for Iraq 3-275 M illi('n f('nn('s. cooperation and also for suggestions ^ r speedy disposal of cases. UAE I • 0 M illion tonn< s.

S.'iiidi Arabia • 2-5 M illirn tonnes. (iv) The Law Commission have been requested to suggest suitable measures USSR • T * 5 M illion tonn( s. to tackle the general problem of ar­ *3*525 Million tonnes:. rears. They are seized of the matter. 199 XQVEtmfR 21^ I9f$ Wfiitgn Jimwmt 2go

P ftViPon w ? n rii8clo8ure of terms and conditions the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas­ lor impoTi of crude oil and its price ed to state: is not in commercial interest of Indian Oil Corporation. (a) what are the details of the trains which are at present running On Pathankot-Joginder Nagar line; Shortace of Railway Tlokete at (b) whether it is a fact that these Certain stations trains are not running regularly on this line and if so, what are the dates 324. smu DUBGA CHAND: WiU during the last six months these the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas- trains were stopped on this line ancl ed to state; the reasons therefor;

(a) whether it has come to the (c) whether any representations notice of Government that there is a have been received in this regard; and shortage of Railway tickets at certain (d) by when the fourth train on stations on Pathankot—Joginder this line will be introduced? Nagar line; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) if so, steps taken or proposed THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS to be taken to meet the situation? (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) One pair of trams between Pathankot and Jo­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ginder Nagar and 2 pairs of trains THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS between Pathankot and Baijnath Pap­ (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes, at rola are running at present on this Nagrota and Baijnath Paprola stations. line.

(b) Indents for printed card tickets (b) A statement is attached. have alr^dy been placed by the sta­ ic] Yes. tions cciac^ned and are being pursued. Meanwhile Blank Paper Tickets are (d) Introduction of 4th pair of trains being issued to the passengers, to is nol feasible due to non-availability avoid inconvenience. of Narrow Gau^^e Diesel locomotives.

Statement

Details oj trains cancelled nn K. V. Railway during last six worUh:. wilh reasons therejor

Train No. Stations between which cancelled Peri(xl of c ancclla- Roasons for cancella­ tion tion

I PBJ Pathankot-Kangra. 19-H-78 to '20-8-78 I)i:r to breaches.

Do. Pathankot-Kopar Lahar 21-8-781027-8-78 Do.

2 PBJ Guler-Kangra. 19-8-78 to ao-8-78 Do.

Do. Kopar Lahar-Guier. 21-8-78 to 27-8-78 Do.

Do. Kopar Lahar-Jawala Mukh i Road. 28-8-7B Do. 301 WriUeti Anatvef^ KARTIKA 3a^ IfOO (SrAKA) WHUen 102

I 2 3 4

I PB Gulcr—.Nagrota. . 19-8-78 Due to breachs D j. Galer— Baijnath Paprola. . ao-8-78 to 27-8-78. Do.

Do. Jawala Mukhi Road-Kopar Lahar . 28-8-78 Do.

a PB Nogrota— Pathankot. . 19-8-78 Do.

D d. Baijnath Paprola-Pathankot. . 20-8-78 to 28-8-78 Do.

3 PB Gulcr—Barijnath Paprola. . 19-8-78 Do. D 3. Pathankot-Baijnath Paprola. . 20-8-78 to 31-8-78 Do.

4 P B Guler— Baijnath Pkprola. . . 19-8-78 Do.

D o. Pathankot-«Baijnath Paprola. . 20-8-78 to 31-8-78. Do.

3 PB/4 PB Pathankot-Baijnath Pstprola. . 1-9-78 to 26-9-78. Due to night running temporarily restric­ ted on K . V. Rail- Mray.

3PB/4PB Pathankot-Baijnath Paprola, . 3-10-781027-10-78. Due to track not fit for night working.

llarkeliiic^ of Cooktni: Gas at Dharaiii> August, 1978. Selection of the candi­ sala, Hlmaclial Pradesh date for the dealership is expected to be done shortly. After issue of ap­ 326. S im DURGA CHAND: Will pointment letter, a candidate normal­ the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEr ly takes about 4 to 6 months for pro­ MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be viding necessary gcdown/showroom be pleased to refer to the reply given facilities etc. for commissioning a dis­ to Unstarred Question No. 370 on tributorship. In the case of Dharam­ 18th July, 1978 regarding cooking sala also, similar time is likely to be gas facility in Himachal Pradesh and taken by the candidate appointed. state:

(a) the progress so far made re- g?irding introducing of marketing of LPG (Cooking Gas) at Dharamsala 327* in Himachal !h*adesh; and

(b) by when the marketing sche­ me will be introduced in that city? (^) ^

T ife OF wftTkOLJiuM TOTT fiRrft i i iWW fcaBteCALS A fffi i^tftlTlLl- ZERS, (SHBI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (^) wfhr WT I; Jifk and (b). i*he distributorship for r^irketiiig .of tPtS (cooking gas) at (n) fWrtr ^ Bha^msaia, Himachal Prkdfesh, was re-advertised by the Indian Oil Cor­ poration in local newspapers on 1st 203 Written A n n om NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 204

^ ilwiHF W Tii^ Hfw w in w ) lie caused by the many railway W ^ (^ ) : crossings between Madras Beach and Tambaram;

(b) whether in view of the heavy «ftr qftiftir- traflfic at these points, Government ^nrft ^ propose to construct undertwidges or overbridges; and

St 10 (c) if so, the particulars o f the plans and the time frame for im­ v s :^o plementation? « 51 . 794 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS . 16 36 (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Some • 780 detention of road traffic at level cross­ ings inevitable, especially during the (^r) 504 peak hours of traffic.

(b) Very busy level crossings are Electrification of Madra»—Villupuram replaced gradually on a programmed Railway Line basis by road over or vmder-bridges, on sharing of cost basis with the State 328. SHRI R. MOHANARANGAM: Government/Road Authorities, de­ Wm the Minister ot RAILWAYS be pending upon the availability of funds. pleased to state; The State Government/Road Authority have to sponsor the proposals together (a) whether it is proposed to in­ with the undertaking to bear their troduce electrification of railway share of cost of the work as per ex­ transport from Madras to Villupuram; tant rules.

(c) Proposals for the replacement of (b) if so, the particulars of the existing level crossings on Gengu same and the time likely to be taken Reddy Road between Madras Egmore for implementation? and Chetpat Railway stations and on Nelson Manicka Mudaliar Road bet­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ween Chetpat and Nungambakkam THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS Stations, are expected to be included (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) and (b). in the Railways Works Programme Madras-Villupuram section is already for 1979-80, subject to the availability electrified and railway transport is of funds and completion of necessary being run under electric traction on formalities/preliminaries by the State the section. Government.

Constniction of ondeiiiildfeA/over- Demand lor a separate Hifh Court bridfes between Madras beach and for Andamans and Nleobar Iriand« Tambaram 330. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAK- 329. SHRI R. MOHANARANGAM: TA: WUl the Minister of LAW, JUS­ Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: plesLsed to state: (a) whether Government are aware (a) whether Government are aware of the frustrating delays to the pub- of the growing demand for setting up 205 WHtten Answers KARTIKA 80, 1900 (SAKA) Written Angwers 206 of a separate High Coizrt for the Bm of Sachar Coounit. Andamans and Nicobar Islands; tee regardtng Ban on Comvaaj Donations (b) whether any memoranda have also been received in this regard; and 332, SHRI CHITTA BASU:

(c) if so, reaction of the Govern­ SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: ment thereto and when a final de­ SHRI VINODBHAI B. SHETH: cision is likely to be taken in this matter? SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS­ AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleas­ TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS ed to state: (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) to (c). No representation has been re­ (a) whether it is a fact that the ceived demanding setting up of a se­ Sachar Committee have made a strong parate High Court for the Andamans recommendation to the effect that and Nicobar Islands. The Lawyers As­ the total ban on the Company con­ sociation Andamans and Nicobar Is­ tributions to the political parties lands have demanded that a single should not only continue but also Judge 6f having the law should be amended as to writ jurisdiction should sit permane- make giving and taking of such con­ nently at Port Blair. The matter is tributions a punishable offence; and under consideration in consultation with the Chief Justice of Calcutta (b) if so, the reaction of the Gov­ High Court. ernment thereto?

THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS­ Demand of Bonus by Railwaymen TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) 331. SHRI CHITTA BASU: Yes, Sir.

SHRI JAXESHWAR MISHRA: (b) This and the other various re­ SHRI SUBHASH CHANDER commendations of the Committee are under consideration of Government BOSE ALLURI: and appropriate measures, including legislative amendments, as may be WiU the Minister of RAILWAYS be necessary, will be taken in due course. pleased to state:

(a) whether Government have taken a final decision in regard to Take-over of Assam Oil C<«UHUiy the demand of the Railwaymen for annual Bonus; and 333. SHRI CHITTA BASU: SHRIMATI PARVATHI (b) if not, the reasons thereof? KRISHNAN: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) and (b). pleased to state.- The question regarding payment of bonus to railway employees cannot be (a) whether Grovemment have considered in isolation but in the con­ taken a final decision in regard to text of Government’s general approach the proposal for the take-over of the to the problem of incomes, prices and Assam Oil Company; and wages including the bonus which is under consideration. (b) if not, the reasons thereof? i0 7 WHtten Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 20S

r a e m d o s t e r o f WSt r o l e u m (c) No specific complaints lA this AND CWBMICALS AND FERTILI­ regard appear to have been received ZERS rSHRI H N. BAHUGUn A): by the Government in the recent past. (a) In acccsrdance with the general Government |X)licy to take over all (d) Does not arise. the foreign oil companies by negotiat­ ed settlement, negotiations are being Offtake of Phumbiura Aaenciea held with BOC for take-over of AOC, (Burmah SheU Distributor») a subsidiary of BOC. 335. SHRI PIUS TIRKEY: (b) An agreed settlement is still to SHRI SHYAM SUNDAR he reached with the foreign oil com­ GUPTA: pany. / CooqiUiiit against PhnmUira Agencies Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, CilEMICALS AND FERTILtZEilS be 334. SHM PIUS TIRKEY: pleased t© refer to the reply 4iven to Starred Question No. 36 on the 18th SHRI SHYAM SUNDAR July, 1978 regarding the appointment GUPTA: of Sewnarayan Khubchand, C^cutta as agent by Bharat Petroleum Cor­ Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, poration and state: CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be ^l«*sed to refer to the reply given to (a) what is the oiftake of Phum­ Starred Question No. 36 on the 18th bhra Agents (Burmah Shell distri­ July, 1978 regarding appointment of butors) of solvent oil (S.BJ^. Spirit M/s. Sew Narayan Khub Chand, Cal­ 55/115) during the last three years, cutta, as agent by Bharat Petroleum year-wise in quantity; and Corporation and state: (b) if the offtake is nil, why Gov­ (a) whether Phumbhra Agencies is ernment is not rescinding their ap­ a business firm only on the papers; pointment as distributor and the reasons behind it? (b) whether it is also a fact that Phumbhra Agencies have not done THE MINISTER OF PETROELEUM any business for the last 4 to 5 years; AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (c) whether Government have re­ (a) M/s. Phumbhra Agents have not ceived any complaints in this regard uplifted any S. B. P. 55/115 during and if so, whether any action has the last three years. since been taken by Government; and (b) This is a commercial matter and (d) if not, the reasons thereof? it is for Bharat Petroleum Corporation THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM to take appropriate action in respect of their distributors. AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHill H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and (b). M/s. Phuttibhra Agencies Price Approvals for Fc^ulatiosis were appointed ^s distributors for granted to M/s. Glaxo SEP at Calcutta by the Burmah Shell 336. SHRI SARAT KAR: Will the Gkoup

(b) products marketed by this com­ instance of this company produing drty pany during the last three years; drug without I (DitR) Act Licence/ approval has come to the notice (c) whether it is a fact that this the Government. As regards charging company has indulged in a number of high prices the following three pro­ irregularities; and ducts were specifically mentioned in (d; if so, the details thereof and the memorandum: actio 1 being taken against them? (i) Betnelan tablets. (ii) Betnesol tablets. ttlE ItoriSTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- (iii) Marcraberin Forte Am.poules. Zidte (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) A statsment showing prire ap­ In respect of Betnelan tablets it was provals granted and refused for new observed that though Government hAd formulations/new packs to M/s. Glaxo fixed the price of the bulk during Beta­ Laboratories (India) Ltd. is attached. methasone Alcohol B. P. at Rs, 134.28 per gram, the company was basing tile (b) M/s. (61^ 0,Laboratories manu- price of this on the pro-revised price facti2f(& arid lirfee range of of the bulk drug. The needed reduc­ foniiulatlohs. The ttlajor product tion in the price of Betnelan^ one of grotit)s nlarkcted by tfte company dur- these formulations, has been made. irttf the last three years include Vita- The company have, however, submit­ mm preparation, Analgesics, Antibio­ ted and Review Petition against this tics Certicosteroids and harmones, Cal­ reduction in terms of paragraph 24 cium Preparations, Cough Sjnrup etc. of the Drugs (Prices Control) Order, 1970. Till the Review Petition is dis­ (c) and (^3). In May, 1977, a posed of, implementation of the order memorandum was received from reducing the price of these tablets has Glaxo Employees Union alleging inter been held in abeyance. Cost data in alia that the company was producing respect of Betnesol tablets and several drugs without industrial Mamraberin Forte Ampoules are licer-ce and is charging high prices. No under examination. Statement

Pricc Approvah (hantedjRcfiiscrifor new packsjXew Products Durin<: the rear 1975, 1976, 1977 in Rfspect of Glaxo Laboratories (Iridia"^ Ltd. PRICE APPROVALS GRANTED PRICE APPROVALS REFUSED Halmaoid Liquid (Veterinary) 1. Vitneurin Capsules. i^repalin Forte Inj. (Ve'crinary) 2. Bynin Amara Liquid. 3* Livogacn H. B. (200 ml.) 3. Oelin Syrup 4* Ostocalcium tablets. 5. Vibelan Forte with Vitamin ‘C ’ Capsules. 6 . Osto Calcium B-12 Syrup (Veterinary) 7. Osto Calcium B-12 Syrup 8 . Mybacin Skin Ointment (Veterinary) 9- Complex-B Glaxo Injection (Veterinary) TO. Hclmaoid Liquid (Veterinary) 11. Complex-B Glaxo Injection (Veterinary) 12. Derobin H. C. Ointment *3- Almacarb Tablets. . •• • . «4- Aisorbcd Diptheria & Tetanus Vaccine >5- Betii Derobin Ointment 16. Viberan Injection (Veterinary) 211 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21. 1978 Written Answers 212

Bet oMe of Oanaltoftd Raw Materlmls to in July, 1977, to stop release of cana­ M /s. Abbot mnd Indian Seherinf lised daw materials to them and CCI&E was also advised nt)t to allow 337. SHRI SARAT KAR: WiU the import of other non-canalised raw Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ materials to them. CALS and fertilizers be pleased to state: (b) No, Sir.

(a) whether it is a fact that release (c) Action taken to regulate sup­ of canalised raw materials were stop­ ply of canalised bulk drugs to certain ped beyond the licensed capacity in companies during the last three years the case of M/s. Abbot and Indian has already been indicated in reply Schering; to Lok Sabha Un. Q. N-o. 9747 answer­ (b) whether it is also a fact that ed on 9-5-78. Therefore, instructions discrimination has been exercised in regarding stoppage of canalised raw granting COB licence to Abbot vis-a- materials have been issued to the vis Cadila and if so. the salient canalised agencies in regard to M/s. features of the same; and Alkali and Chemical Corporation of India Ltd., a foreign company, who (c) in how many cases like that of ore found to ^ manufacturing drug Abbot and Indian Schering instruc­ formulations purely on loan licence tions to stop release of canalised raw basis without having obtained an in- materials have nort been issued; xiustrial licence under the IDR Act, whether all these discriminations are 1951. Similar action has been taken not against the declared policy of in regard to the release of Gentamy- cin Sulphate, which is a canalised Government? item, to Fulford which is a foreign company. As and when cases of in­ THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM fraction come to the notice of the AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- Government, suitable action, includ­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): ing the stoppage of release of cana­ (a) M/s. Abbott is a 100 per cent lised raw materials, is taken against foreign compony en g^ed in the the concerned company, if considered manufacture ot firu^ formulations necessary. The question of exercising only. In 1971 they were granted a disrimination against the companies, c.o.b. licence subject, inter-alia, to a referred to in the Question, does not condition that they would establish arise. manufacture of bulk drugs in the country. As they did not take con- crets steps to implement this condition Modernisation of Ensineerinf Work­ and instead were found to be indulg­ shop at Arakkomam ing in excess production beyond licen­ sed capacities of their formulations, 338. SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: Will action was taken to restrict their sup­ the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas­ plies of canalised bulk drugs upto ed to state: their entitlement for individual bulk (a) the total cost of modernisation drugs as per licensed capacities. of the Engineering Workshops at In the case of M/s. Indian Schering Arakkonam on the Southern Railway Ltd. it was found in 1977, as part of for replacement of old machinery By examination of their FERA applica­ new one etc.; tion that they were carrying on their (b) the amount actually spent in manufacturing activities on the basis 1977-78 and amount proposed to be of an industrial licence of doubtful spent in *1978-79; validity. The matter was examined in consultation with other concerned (c) is there any scheme for diversi­ organisations and action was taken fication in the above workshop to 213 Written Answers KABTIKA SO, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answer* 214.

gainfully employ the present labour regard can be taken only when the and also to provide more employment proposal is sponsored by them to­ opportunities? gether with the iindertaking to bear the entire cost of the work. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Total

cost of replacement of machinary fiT of the Engineering workshop at Arak- konara is estimate^ to be Rs. 89.00 lakhs approximately. 3 4 0. ¥To I WT:

(b) Rs. 4.25 lakhs were spent in ^ flTT ^^^1 I— 1977-78 and Rs. 21.00 lakhs have been provided in the Railway budget for 1978-79.

(c) Present capacity of the work­ I; shop is fully utilised. There is how­ ever, no proposal for further expan­ (^) ^ ^ >d^KH w m sion /diversification.

Widening of Sub-way near Arakkonam Railway Station

339. SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas­ ed to stae:

(a) whether any representations have been received for widening of («ft *>5^) • {^) ^ (v) the sub-way near Arakkonam Rail­ way Station on the Southern Rail­ ^ ^ ^ 125 *fto STTo way; and % 500 ^fto ^ ^ ^ fen w «TT, (b) if so, will a decision be taken 1977-78 ^ ^ 279,01 ifto- soon in the matter as it has been pen­ ^ m m ^ -dcMKH ^ I ding for a long time? ^ TOf ^ ^ ^ 500 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN *jto ^ vfev THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS ?inT^ ^ ^ swH •njif ^ I (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. (^) «TT#T 5m nfw (b) According to the extant rules, ^ qR vTihrrft m ^ ftdrfan 'W # proposal for widening of the sub-way ^nf^TW: WT[ 1978-79 198 2- is required to be sponsored by the 83 ^ 'V^TW* 770 d*i nm State Government/Local authority 1600 jfto ^HITPT m m | I ^ # together with an undertaking to bear 1977-78 * t t m ferpR * *FT the entire cost of the work as the need 642.78 Jfto iTT I for widening the sub-way has arisen due to increase in the road traffic. No such proposal has so far been re­ q?r 5^ 1380 4to Sir ^ ceived either from the Government of ^rrl^ t, ^ ^ ^ ^ w Tamil Nadu or the Municipality of Arakkonam. Further action in this 2 1 5 NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 216

<3riuil of Ezpttnaton Licence to M /s. ExIMorfttery Experiments for Oil Pfiwr Underneath Calcutta by ONGC

343. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: 341. SHRl G. M. 3ANATW ALLA : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ CHEMICALS AND FERTIf.iZERS ZERS be pleased to state: be pleased to state: (a) whether the Oil and Natural (a) whether M/s. Pfizer Limited Gas Commission has a proposal under were granted expansion licence for consideration to start a series of Tetracycline/Oxytracycline subject to exploratory experiments to find out the condition that certain portion of the oil possibilities underneath Cal­ production will be exported; cutta city; and

(b) if so, when this licence was (b) if so, the details thereof? -granted; THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ (c) the terms on which the licence ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : was granted; and (a) Yes, Sir. (d) Whether the comfJany has vio­ (b) The ONGC plans to carry out lated the terms of licence and if so, precision gravity surveys in the city of whether any action has since been Calcutta and its adjacent industrial taken and if so, with what result? area during 1978-79 field season. It is also proposed to carry out seismic sur­ THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM veys in the area subsequently. AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA;: Bhag^ati Committee Report on (a) to (d). The information asked for Jurldicare by the Honourable Member has already 344. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: been furnished in reply to Lok Sabha Unstarred Question No. 4911 answered SHRI RAJ KESHAR SINGH: On 29-8-1978. Will the Minister of LAW. JUSTICE and COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state:

Mathura Refinery (a) v/h at are the reasons for delay in implementing the Bhagwati Com­ 342. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: mittee Report on Juridicare; and Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, (b) what s-teps have Government CHEMICALS AND FERTFLTZERS be taken or propose to take to provide pleased to state: comprehensive legal aid to the poorer (a) whether Government are having and weaker sections of our society? a second thought on the Mathura Re­ finery; and THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI (b) if sO, the details thereof? SHANtl BHUSHAN) : (a) The Bhag­ wati Committee Repot on Juridicare is THE MINISTER QF PETROLEUM very voluminous. Saving regard to AND CHJa^CALS AND FERTILI- the far-reaching implications of the re­ Zt!RS (iSbRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): commendations coiitained in the Re­ (a) No, gir. port, an inter-departmental Committee constituted by Government is examin­ (b) Does not arise. ing it in detail. 217 Written Answers KAETIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 218

(b) The appropriate steps to pro­ tQ Oil vide comprehensive legal aid to the ment Project of Natioiia] poorer and weaker sections of the Develg;pi^e|)t Board society will be decided by Government after the inter-departmental Commit­ 346. SHRI DHARAMVIR VASISHT: tee concludes itp work. Will the Minister of LAW, JUS­ TICE a n d COMPANY AFFAIRS be proposals for Electoral Reforms pleased to state:

345. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO; (a) whether it is a fact that the Law Ministry have opposed the Na­ SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: tional Dairy Development Board's SHRI A. R, BADRINARA- proposal to launch an oil seed deve^ YAN: lopment project with U. S. participa­ SHRI P. M. SAYEED: tion; and

Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE (b) if so, for what reasons? AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI Ca) whether there are several pro­ SHANTI BHUSHAN): -a) No, Sir. posals ior electoral reforms under consideration of Government: (b) Does not arise.

(b) if so, what is the nature of these proposal.^; and Electrification of Railway Line in Kerala (C) what are the reasons for delay in ta':inrr a decision on the same? 347. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE to state: AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN) : (a) to (c). I a) wiijtlijr any decision has been Various propo.^als for electoral reforms taken oa the demand of the Kerala are under Government’s considcrr.'tion. Go VC.'; lineal Cor the eicctnfication Some of the important proposals re- Eaiiway liiie hi Kcraia; lalc to subjects like maintenance of electoral rolls up-to-date, avoidance of ib; ii so, the details thereof; and misuse of official authority and machi- neiy at e'octions, removal of corrupt (c) if not what is the present stage practices and money powers, at elec­ of tne proposal? tions, reduction of -^lectiori expenses, quick disposal of election petitions, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE reduction of voting age from 21 years MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI to 18 years, adoption of proportional SHEO NARAIN) : (a) Yes. representation or a variant thereof, in place of the existing system of elec­ (b) The traffic density on the rail­ tions, for election to Lok Sabha and way sections falling in the Kerala State Legislative Assemblies, financing State, as projected in 1988-89, falls far of election expenses of candidates by short of the traffic densities consider­ the State, etc. ed essential for electrification. As such, it has been decided not to take As the proposals require deep study up electrification of Erode-Emakulam- anci careful consideration, some time Trivandrum section for the present. wiU be taken to arrive at decisions thereon. (c) Does not arise. a i9 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 220

JfcpwBMitittons Seeidiif Eztenidoii of toms duty on polystyrene were exa­ Howiah-Roorkela Express to mined earlier and it was felt that there Titlafarli was no need for such a reduction.

348. SHRI AINTHU SAHOO : However, a fresh representation in this regard received from the Small SHRI GANANATH PRADHAN: Scale Plastic Manufactm*ers* Associ­ ation is under examination. Will the Minister of RTLWAYS be pleased to state: Varanasi Diesel Loco Works Tairg^t (a) whether it is a fact that the people Of Western Districts of Orissa 350. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL RED­ including the merchant associations of DY: WiU the Minister of RAILWAYS different areas have made a massive be pleased to state: representation to the Central Govern­ (a) whether it is a fact tliat the ment to extend the Howrali-Rourkela Diesel Loco Works at Varanasi will Express train upto Titlagarh in the not be able to achieve the target of South Eastern Railway; and production of locos fixed for 1978-79; and (b) if so, what steps have been taken by Government to consider the (b) if so, what are the reasons demands of the people of that area? therefor?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes.

(b) Extension of 5/6 Howrah-Rour- (b) The shortfall in the production kela Express to and from Titlagarh is cf Diesel Locos at Diesel Loco Works operationally not feasible due to in> during 1978-79 is due to shortfall in adequate terminal facilities at Titla­ supply of ‘Electrical Equipment* by garh. Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd., Bhopal.

by All India Plasttcs Manu- Loco Production taetnrers Association for Duty Reduc­ 351. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL tion in Polystyrene REDDY: 349. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL RED- SHRI VASA NT SATHE: B Y : WUl the Minister of PETRO­ LEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ SHRIJANARDHANA ZERS be pleased to state: POOJARY: (a) whether the All India Plastics Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be ^Manufacturers Association has urged pleased to state: the Centre for duly reduction m (a) whether it is a fact that a dis­ Polystyrene; and pute between BHEL and Railways has adversly Rffe^'tpd the past aiid reaction (b) if so. Government’s current loco production; and thereon? (b) if so, the details of the dispute THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM and steps taken to resolve it and the AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ results thereof? ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) and (b). Request from the All THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE India Plastics Manufacturers Associ­ MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI* ation and others for reduction of cus- SHEO NARAIN) (a) and (b). There 221 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 222 is no dispute between Railways and to the claimants on the basis of the BHEL. However the inadequacy of verdict of the Court. capacity at BHEL has affected the past and current loco production. (c) Since human failure is the lar­ gest single factor responsible for ac­ The question of expansion of capa­ cidents, Safety Organisations on the city at BHEL is imder examination of Railways have been engaged in a re­ the Ministry of Heavy Industry and lentless campaign to create greater discussions are going on between the safety consciousness amongst the staff Ministry of Railways and Ministry of connected with the running of trains Heavy Industry regarding expansion and to ensure that staff do not violate of capacity and the modality of fixa­ rules or indulge in short-cut methods tion of prices. that may lead to accidents. In order to reduce dependence on human ele­ News Item Regarding Train Accident ment, various sophisticated aids like Near Tune ultra-sonic flaw detectors for wheels, ax^es and rails, track circuiting, axle 352. SHRI RAJKESHAR SINGH: counters, automatic warning system, Will the Minister of RAILWAYS b-e etc. are being introduced progresively. pleased to state; It has been decided to complete track- circuiting of run-through lines at all (a) whether his attention has been the stations on trunk routes by 1981. drawn to a news item entitled “Nine In addition, track-circuiting of 100 Killed in Train Accident Near Pune” vulnerable stations from fouling mark published in the “ Statesman’^ dated to Advanced Starter will be completed 12th October, 1973; \yy 30-9-1979.

(b) if so, the cause of the accident compensation paid to the families of Closure of Alibag Observatory the deceased; and 353. SHRI RAJKESHAR SINGH: (c) the remedial steps taken to pre­ Will the Minister of PETROLEUM vent such accident in future? AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (a) whether his attention has been THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS drawn to the news-item entitled (SHRl SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. 'Great loss of Alibag Observatory is closed’’ (Blitz dated the 28th Octo­ (b) The Additional Commissioner of ber, 1978); and Railway Safety, Bangalore, has held jhis statutory inquiry into this accident. (b) if so, resction of Government According to his provisional finding, thereto? the accident was due to failure of rail­ way staff. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ An ex-gratia payment of Rs. 22,370 ZERS (SHRI H. N BAHUGUNA): (a) has been made to the victims of this Yes, Sir. accident or their dependents. Claims for compensation have not so far been (b) To determine the possible ad­ received. Claimants can lodge their verse effects of locating a fertilizer claims with the Ex-officio Claims Com­ plant at Thai Vai-Shet on the work­ missioner within a period of 3 months ing of the Alibag Magnetic Observa­ from the date of occurrence of the tory, experiments were carried out accident. The payment of the com­ jointly by Rashtriya Chemicals and pensation will be arranged expedi­ Fertilizers Ltd. and the authorities of tiously hy the Railway Administration the observatory. The report prepared 223 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answers 224. by the Indian Institute of Geomagnet­ Prade^ the details in regard to the ism after conducting the experiments setting up of a Phytochemical Unit concluded that if the fertilizer plant in the joint sector in that State; is located beyond 5 kms from the Ali- bag Observatory and if existing res­ (b) if so, the details thereof; and trictions imposed by the State Govern­ ment are enforced, it is not likely to (c) when the unit is likely to be vitiate the recordings at the Alibag set up in the State? Observatory. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FEHTTLI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and (b). No, Sir.

(c) The likely schedule will be de­ termined when the details are final­ ised by IDPL with the State Govern­ ment fHdM 1 ^ pH M ^ HK'i ^ f ^ ^

(c) The appointment of officers on (a) whether Union Government deputation or ad hoc basis is made in have received any representation accordance with the extant rules/regu­ Irom the Government of Rajasthan lations, in consultation with the Union regarding conversion oi metre gauge Public Service Commission. railway lines between Ratlam-Ajmer and Udaipur Chittor into broad gauge (d) Officers have been drafted on lines; and deputation to fill such posts in Secu­ rity and Economic Cell etc. for which (b) if so, the reaction of Union they are specially qualified. Ad hoc Government thereto? appointments only serve to tide over the interim period for carrying on the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE work in public interest until regular MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI appointments are made. SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes.

(b) Gauge conversion of Ratlam- IfWf HfPI W ff Ajmer and Udaipur-Chittorgarh lines fWT WRT can be considered only after the com­ pletion of gau ''"^version of Delhi- Ahmedabad line which has been sanc­ 3 5 7. ^ ^ tioned but not taken up so far on ac­ count of shortage of resources. It has, however, been decided to deve­ (^) TO srtvr lop additional capa<;ity on Ratlam-Aj­ # ^ a, ift ^ ^ mer and Udaipur- ^..jttorgarh sections to meet the requirements of traffic. vrmftPF vmiTvm I ;

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(w ) v i n r ^ T?ff i ^nrt \ 364. SHRI S. S. DAS: Will the Min­ ister of PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS (^) -ft ^t I AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state:

Irregubirities committed by M/s. (a) in how many cases the release Alkali and Chemicals Corporation Of canalised raw materials was stop­ ped and then restored during the last 363. SHRI S. S. DAS: Will the Min­ two years; ister of PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS (b) basis on whjch the releases AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to were stopped and restored; and state: (c) whether any consistent policy (a) nature of irregularities under has been evolved in view of the Price Control Order committed by fact that On the one hand it causes Messrs. Alkali and Chemical Corpo­ hardships to the units and on the ration; other too much is left to th^ whims (b) details of the irregularities; and and fancies of the concerned officers?

(c) action proposed to be taken? THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ THE lyllNISTER OF PETROLEUM ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) ANP CHEA^ICALS AND FERTILI­ to (c). During the last 2 years only in ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAfTUGUNA): pne case the release of canalised raw (a) to (c).;M /s. Alkali and Chemical materials was stopped and then res­ Corporation, of India Ltd. declared a tored. price of. Rsi 11,878 per tonne for Phe- nothiaz^e Fine (a bulk drug used for , In the case of M/s. Tamil Nadu ^.veteriwy purposes) on 11th, June, Dadha Pharmaceuticals Ltd., the CiPC 1971 uii

(a) detailed history of canalisation 24. Riboflavin-5-Phosphate So­ dium of each bulk drug; 25. Folic Acid (b) whether decanalisation will 26. Oxytetracycline, its salts and bring down prices; and derivatives (c) if not, how? 27. Sulphathiazole 28. Sulphadiazine

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (b) and (c) One impact of canali­ AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- sation is disclosed by the fact that, ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): when Gentamycin was canalised (a) The scheme of canalisation of during 1977-78, it was possible to both bulk drugs/drug intermediates bring down the price of this bulk Was introduced in 1970-71. A state­ drug from Rs. 45.000/kg. (clf), which ment showing various items canalised was the h ig l^ price returned by an for import through STC/CPC from ‘mporter preWously, to approximately 1970-71 onwards indicating the year Rs. 18,000/Hg, (clf). Similarly, on of canalisation of imi>ort in respect of canalisation it was ppssibl^ to brjng each drug is attached. All these down the pHge of Doxycycline also items continved in the canaljsed list from aboiit Rs. 3,0()0/.kg. Cdif), to upto end of 1977-78. Rs, jM0/}Lg (d f). C^ajnaUsati^n 433 AN*K)«r* KABCIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) W rittm 434

anight deprive the conaumer at Urge subsidy on account of Streptomycin O f such p r i c e benefits. Sulphate during 1978-79 at Rs. 1.83 crores and subsidy on account of Another effect of canalisation can Chloroquin Phosphate at Rs. 2 crores. be seen from the fact that it has been Only through the instrument of pool­ possible to hold the pooled prices of ed prices can such heavy subsidies be anti-TB (Streptomycin) and anti- sustained, by some loading on thoae malarial (Chlaroquin Phosphate) canalised bulk drugs which are re« which are required predominantly by quired predominantly by the better- the poorer section of society, un­ off section of the society. Decanalisa­ changed despite increases in interna- tion would not make it possible to lional prices. CPC have estimated operate such a price-related system.

Statement

S. No, Name of the item Year of canalisation of imports

1 2 3

I. Cresylic acid/cresylic acid BP/Cresols ortho/Para/Nitro/Mata (both medical and tech. grades'i ..... 1970-71

a,, Citric Acid 1971-72

3- Folic Acid 1970-71

4-, Iodine 1970-71

5- Vitamin Bi . • . . . 1970-71 6. Vitamin B2 8c Vitamin B2-5-Phosphate Sodium . 1970-71

7-, Amidopyrine . .... 1970-71 1970-71

9. Ampicillin trihydrate/Anhydrous/sodium • . . • *97:>74 10. Ghloramphanicol powder, Chloramphenicol sodium succinate. 1970-71

11. Caffeine and its salts . 1977-78

12. Chloroquine and its salts 1972-73 13 Calcium/Sodium Pentothenatfs . 1973-74

H Doxycycline . . ... '977-78

^5- Erythromycins* (Base), Erythromycins estolate, Erythromycine sfarate and Erythromycine ethyl succinate .... 1971-73

16. Frusemide (F urosemide) ' 973-74

^7- Furazolidone 1977-78 lO 1977-78

19 Griseofulvin 1977-78

20 Indomcthacin 1973-74

ar Methyl Dopa 1973-74 ♦235 W rttH li i4H«u>’l»OVmBKH JW >: .WtitHm ^

. t2 Metroni^«iolc .

23 r^itrofxirazonc . ’ 1^7-78':?;™

24 NitrclurantQin...... J973 -74' 25 Oxytctcacyclinc, its salts and derivatives ''977-78

26 Oxyphenylbutazone . 1976.7)

27 Predisolonc 1976-77

28 Pantl.cnols ' 973-74 29 Pyridoxine Hydrochloride . '970-71

30. Phthayl Sulphathiazolc ■973-74

31 Prenylamidc lactate . >973-74 32 Piperazine and its salts '970-71

33 Phenobarbitone and is salts '970-71

34 Sulphadimidine (Sulphamethiazirt) 1970-71 35 Streptcmycin Sulphate 1970-71

36 Sulphagiianidinc ' 972-73 37 Sulphathiazok- . ' 970 -7'

38 Sulphadiazine . ' 970 -7'

39 Sulphamethcxazole . ' 977 -7^

40 Siilphamathoxyp.yiidazine. . ' 972-73 41 Tetracycline, itsrrd rid s. . 1970-7'

42 Trimethoprim . '977-78 43 Vitamin A anditsesteis 1977-78

4 L-Base ' 973-74 45 Tartaric Acid ,

6 Vit D 3 ...... 1977-78

Decision on the recommoidstions of implemented without amendment or Hathi Committee modification;

366. SHRI S. S. DAS: Will the (b) what are the modifications Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ proposed and the reasons for the CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased same; and to state: (a) whether the decisions on the (c) who prepared the inconsistent recommendations of Hathi Committee decisions and whether these inconsis­ as laid on the Table of Lok Sabha tence were intimated to the Cabinet sr

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEklCJ^LS AND J'ERl'lLI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. fiSAHUGKJWA): ffiM t * 11* (a) to (c) No, Sir. If, however, in ^ viFPfr the light of eicperienc^ gained in to - PTT M t ^ srf^ ^ plementing, the decisions and views ^ ft fWt ^hhft ^ ^ fvA ^ Vtqift H expressed in various forms of d is­ cussion, it becomes necessairy ‘ to cftt ( elaborate, amplify or improve upon any aspect of any of the decisions, vt «Tiw p r o appropriate action '^ u ld be consider­ ed by Government. 368. t^o 1^0 ftrsp : WT

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(w) # I ft m ^ If (b) tbe steps being taken for indi- fcw fiWT l^rc mjfiT (ineous production of thoee drugs? # HTf Pf¥4 4I**|4 tWT Wr TfT f jfinr ^fTW THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM ^ iSt wrtV 11 AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNAi: (a) Detailed data regarding import ot drugs and pharmaceuticals, indicating the names and quantity of drugs im­ Cm I Of Imported Mediclnft ported and other relevant details are contained in the publication ‘Monthly 369. SHRIMATI AHILYA P. Statistics of the Foreign Trade of RANGNEKAR: Will the Minister of India—Vol. Il-Imports’, published, PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND from time to time, by the Director FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: General of Commercial Intelligence and Statistics, Calcutta. The follow­ (a) the total cost of medicines im­ ing is an extract of the information re­ ported partially and wholly during garding import of bulk drugs and last three years; and formulations: (Fiflfs. in R». lakhs )

c .i.f. value of imports during Category *975-76 1976-77 1977-78

Bulk drugs . . . • 3936-85 4703-28 7429-00

Finished formulations • 74-61 69-32 125-85

T o t a l • •• 4011*46 477a-60 7654-85

(b) Self-sufficiency in the field of activities, both in the private and pub­ drugs and pharmaceuticals would de­ lic sector, Government would also pend on a number of factors including allow import of crucial technology the availability of drug technology and wherever necessary and available with­ resources for expanding the production out onerous conditions. as well as Research and Development In order to expand R & D base, base. One of the prime objectives of incentives have been provided in the the New Drug Policy, announced on New Pricing Policy for units who 29-3-78, is to develop self-reliance in would set up their own R & D activity. drug technology. Another objectives of the New Drug Policy is to aim at It has also been decided that foreign quick self-sufficiency in the output of companies whose turnover in drugs is drugs with a view to reduce the quan­ in excess of Rs. 5 crores per annum tum of imports. shall be obliged (a) to have R & D facilities within the country on which Indigenous production of drugs capital investment should be at least touched a peak during the year 1977- 20 per cent of their net block and (b) 78, the value being Rs. 1064 crores as to spend at least 4 per cent of their compared to 850 crores %nd 890 crores sales turnover as recurring expendi­ in 1976-77 and 1975-76 respectively. ture on R & D facilities. While efforts will continue to be made to step up production of existing units In order to encourage the consump­ by improvement of technology and of tion of drugs indigenously, it has been imported processes through R & D stipulated in the New Drugs Policy J24I Written Answers KARTIKA 30. 1900 (SAKA) WHtten Angwert 242

that the Indian drug manufacturers Nigeria. The firm have further stated will be allowed formulation licences that their exports during the five upto ten times of the value of their years preceding March 78 have been bulk drug production, provided that of the order of about Rs. 1.85 crores the formulation turnover is based on and their record of realisation, with A ratio of 2:1 between consumption of the exception of Nigeria, has been al­ indigenous bulk drugs and imported/ most 100 per cent. canalised bulk drugs. Famlahliif of aecomits b j OH India Complaints against U.S. Drug Firm Ltd.

370. SHRI A. R. BADRI NARAIN: 371. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGF Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, MAUK: CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be DR. SAROJINI MAHISHI: pleased to state: WiU the Minister of PETROLEUM, (a) whether Government are over- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be •seeing into complaints of concealment pleased to state: of export earning and tax evasion by a U.S. firm; (a) whether Government are aware that Oil India Ltd. has not yet fur­ (b) if so, what are the nature of nished its accounts since 1971 to Gov­ complaints against the U.S. Firm; and ernment; (c) whether the charges have been (b) if so, w’hat are the reasons proved and any action initiated? there; and (c) steps taken by Government to THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM get all the accounts of this company AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- finalised soon? ^ERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA):

(c) The complaint is being enquired Appointments of sons and wards of into by the Government in consultation railway employees with the Indian High Commission and 372. SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QURE- other' concerned authorities. M/s. SHI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS Abbott have stated that of the 9 (nine) be pleased to state: consignments shipped to Nigeria bet­ ween January and November, 1975, (a) the number of ad hoc appoint­ 2 (two) consignments were lost at sea ments made in the years 1974—76 of nnd the remaining 7 (Seven) consign­ the sons and wards of Railway emp­ ments were not cleared within reason­ loyees; able time by the consignees, owing to the acute congestion in the Nigerian (b) the number of employees whose ports. The firm have also stated that services have been regularised; and the major portion of these 7 cosign- (c) how long would it take to regu­ ments has been ordered to be destroy­ larise the services of remaining emp­ ed by the Federal Ministry of Health, loyees; 24 3 Ajitwers , JiOWEIA&ER 21, 1978 Written Answers 244

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN This inspection has recently been THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS completed and nef^ssafy action Will (SH?! SHEO NARAIN): (a) be taken after exafailniatlon a t the Inspection Iteport. Class m .. About 600 Class TV About 300 Complaints agaiaat Directors and (b) and (c). The Class III appoint­ Secretary of M /s. Bata Shoe ments made irregularly can be regu­ Company larised only if the candidates appear before the Railway Service Commis­ 374. SHRI MUKHTLAR SINGH sions and are selected. Some cases MALIK: where regularisation was made in­ DR. SAROJINI MAHISHI; correctly by the Railways are under investigation. WiU the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased The Class IV appointees have been to state: included in the list of substitutes/ casual labour and will be eligible for (a) the progress so far made in re­ regularisation in their turn after gard to the complaints which were screening by a Screening Committee. filed against the Directors and Secre­ tary of M/s. Bata Shoe Company Memorandum containing allegations Ltd., Calcutta, by the Registrar of against Sandur Manganese and Iron Companies, Calcutta, regarding viola­ Ore Ltd. tion of Provident Fund Rules; 373. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH (b) what are the names of the per­ MALIK: sons involved in these cases; and

DR. SAROJINI MAHISHI: (c) steps proposed to be taken by Government to expedite the cases? Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI (a) whether Government have re­ SHANTI BUHSHAN): (a) The ceived any memorandum containing Honourable High Court of Calcutta serious allegations of irregularities, has delivered its judgement in a misappropriation and mal-administra- criminal revision petition filed before tion in the Sandur Manganese and it and has quashed the proceedings Iron Ore Ltd., Sandur (Karnataka pending before the Magistrate’s Court State); in respect of 12 Complaints relating to deposit of Provident Fund dues filed (b) if so, whether any action has against the Directors and Officers of since been taken by the Government M/s. Bata Shoe Company Liniited. of India; and (b) The names of the persons invol­ (c) if so, what are the details ved are: thereof? ( 1) Shri P. K. Nanda THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE (2) Shri P. Z. Baldik AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI (3) Shri A. M. Banerjee SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) Yes, Sir. (4) Shri J. N. Bek (b) and (c) An inspection under (5) Shri S/ N. Bose section 209A of the Companies Act, (6) Shri K. K. Dutt 1956 was ordered to verify the allega­ tions cor\tained in the memorandum. (7) Shri J. S. Gopal »45 KARTIKA 30, IflpO iSAKA) Written Answers 246

(Sf (v ) wj f t Pp ^nwR cases before *(Bt^1W5|lstrate Court does ^ «ft w# if# ^ qii ^not. arise since the Calcutta High ^ qr I fftr TO ^ ift Court has guashed th^ proceedings. fWT i imr ift firm h | ' ^TTVfT' ^ STIRT ^ ; trfVr

Decision of Karnataka Government to ^ I fti ftrfiww % Abolish Teachers’ and Graduates’ ftiiR ift TO # f, ^ Constitoencies eft ^ ^ fen w I ITT ^ irtnrr ^ art ^rrnf^’ 5^ ^ I, ^ wi 875. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH ^ ^ gTTT ^ WT MALIK: ^ ^ ^ STTO DR. SAROJINI MAHISHI; I «rk ^ qr ^ vrihm|t ^ »rf | ?

Will the Minister o f LAW, JUSTICE fwfii, 9nm fftr fjwjsft vrt AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased ^5*ni) (^) ^rnrfw to state: ^ 5rm h ^ ^ff qr wfyfn ^ f^R ^ t V (a) whether it has come to the notice of Government that Karnataka (^) (^r) ^ Government has taken a decision to i i}^ ^ qx abolish the teachers* and graduates’ constituencies for the Karnataka Legislative Council from 1980;

(b) if so, what are the reasons Proposal to attach a bogie from Jabal­ thereof; and pur bound for Ahmedabad

(c) what is the reaction of the 377. SHRI NIRMAL CHANDRA Government of India thereto? JAIN: Will the Minister of RAIL­ WAYS be pleased to state: THE m in is t e r OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI (a) is there any proposal before the ‘vSHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) Yes, Sir. Government to attach from Jabalpur station, one bogie bound for Ahmeda­ (b) The Government of Karnataka bad to Howrah, Bombay Mail (4 Dn IS of the opinion that there is no need and 3Up) for the convenience of the to have separate constituencies for thousands of Gujaratis living in Ja­ representing special interests like balpur District and others; those of teachers and graduates, in the (b) whether any such representa­ l egislative Council of the State. tion has been made to Government; (c) The matter is being examined. (c) by which time the Govern­ ment are going to make provision for the said bogie; and

376. VOTm : I WT filfei (d) if not,, why? ^ ^ 18 1978 ^ 7136 ^ ^ THE MINISTER OF STATE m THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) No. (^) (fafW T) ^ TTPTfkV (b) Yes. ^ ^ ^ ?irT«T ^ ^ xftK (c) and (d) An analysis of the traffic offering from stations between: Written Antwtrt NOVEMBBR 11, 1978 WfittM 248 Allahabad and Itani to stations bet- muwDd of t z 6d hr ' ween Surat and Gandhidham reveals it to be too meagre to justify running of a through coach between Jabalpur 379. SHRI ANANT DAVE: WkU the and Ahmedabad. Apart from this» Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND introduction of a through coach bet­ COMPANY AFFAIRS be otesed to ween Jabalpur and Ahmadabad by 3 state: Up/4 Dn Bombay-Howrah Mail is (a) whether cases of failure to not operationally feasible for want of refund the fixed deposit amounts room on these trains to haul an extra taken by the companies on matu­ coach as a regular measure. rity have recently come to the notice of Grovemment; and Shortage of coal for Railways (b) what action has been or is proposed to be taken by Govern­ '378. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: ment to protect the interest of the SHRI RAMACHANDRAN depositors? KADANNAPPALLI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE pleased to state: AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN) ; (a) and (b). (a) whether the coal shortage is Government has received complaints still felt by the Railways and there from depositors regarding default in is no immediate relief from coal repayment of deposits on maturity, by shortage because of the traffic move­ some companies. ments in the coal field badly dis. rupted by floods; 2. Under section 58A of the Comp­ (b) whether this coal shortage has anies Act, 1956 and the rules made thereunder the non-banking non-finan- resulted stoppage of the spairs of trains which has been cancelled due cial companies can accept deposits to floods and coal shortage; from the public only up to the limits specified in the said rules. There is (c) if so, whether disruption of no provision in the Companies Act, services have adversely affected the 1956 enabling the Government to com­ financial position of the Railways; pel non-banking non-financial compa­ and nies to repay public deposits, on matu­ rity, to depositors. However, in (d) if so, to what extent? appropriate cases prosecutions are launched against non-banking non- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN financial companies and their officers THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS in default for the contraventions of (SHRI SHEO NARAIN) (a) Avail­ section 58A of the Companies Act ability of steam coal, particularly in and the rules framed thereunder. -Bihar fields continues to remain inadequate resulting in The Department has already taken shortage of coal for the Railways’ the following steps to safeguard the use. interests of the depositors: — (b) Yes. (a) In accordance with the Comp­ anies (Acceptance of Deposits) (c) Yes, there has been loss in earn­ Amendment Rules dated 30th March, ings. 1978, non-banking non-financial com­ (d) The loss in earnings from the panies have to indicate from 1st last week of September to end of April, 1978 onwards in advertise­ October, 1978 is of the order of Rs. ment seeking deposits, in addition to *^250 lakhs. summarised financial position of the 249 Written Amvotn KARTIKA SO, 1900 {SAKA) Written Answert 230-

company, inforzx^tion on the follow­ (b) what were the quantities re* ing points; leased in favour of M/s. Abbot during^ last three years, year-wise and what (1) Tbe amount which the comp­ was their consuxnption of this drug; any can raise by way of deposits; and (ii) The aggregate of deposits (c) how their consumption is^ held; more than the release effected and (iii) Amount of deposits whiph are how State Chemical Pharmaceutical overdue for repayment. Corporation of India Ltd. have in­ creased their entitlement in spite of (iv) The deposits are unsecured the instructions regarding fixation o f and rank pari passu vriih other entitlement by his Ministry? unsecured liabilities. From these particulars, the intending THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM oepositor would be able to judge for himself whether he should make a AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRi H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) Ins­ deposit in the company. tructions were issued in November, (b) Under the same rules mention­ 1976 to the CPC advising them, inter- ed above, each non-banking non- aha, that the entitlement of M/s. financial company is also required Abbott Labs, for release of Erythromy­ fiom 1st April, 1978 to deposit or cin Stearate would be on the basis of invest by 30th April each year, 10 4,830 kgs. per annum. These instruc­ per cent of its deposits maturing tions have been reiterated from time ' uring the year ending 31st March to time. next following (for the year ending 31st March, 1979 the time had (b) The quantities of Erythromycin been extended up to 30th Septem­ Stearate released in favour of M/s. ber, 1978 for making deposits/ Abbott Labs, by the CPC during the investment); the amount so de­ last 3 years were as follows: — posited/invested can be utilised only lor repayment of deposits maturing (Quantit) in Kgs ) during the year. IQ75-76 9290' 3. The High Powered Expert Com­ mittee which was reviewing the Com­ 1976-77 8260 panies Act. 1956 has submitted its re­ 1977.78 4830 commendations recently which inter- alia include some suggestions for The consumption of this drug during further safeguarding the interests of the last 3 years as reported by the the depositors. company was as follows: —

The report of the Committee men­ J975 • 10,870 kgF. tioned above is under consideration of 1976 . 8,675 the Central Government. 1977 • 6,397 Release of Erythromycin Stearate to The party has explained that during M/s. Abbot Laboratories the years 1975 and 1976 the material S80. SHRI R. K. AMIN: Will the consumed by them had been procured Minister of PETROLEUM. CHEMI­ from canalising agency viz. the CPC CALS and FERTILIZERS be pleased As regards consumption in 1977; they to state: have reported that they procured 550 kgs. of this drug from an export house (a) what is the entitlement of (Dunlop India Ltd.) also. It Would, Abbot Laboratories Axed by his Mi­ however, be seen that the figures o f nistry for release of Eryihromycin consumption indicated above are fo r Stearate; the calendar years. 251 Wrttten Answers NOVEMBER 21, m 8 Written An»H^«rs” 25*^

w])fib)ec it is a fact that M- Vitamin 62, Anaflglii, Amiddjyrine.^ tJ^ou^ I.D .p .L . has spent precious Piperzine salts, DirtWyl Carbamazine foreign exchange for importing these citrate, Nicotinamide (Niacinamide), strains, the imported strain has not INH, Phenobarbltone, Acetazola- resulted in any increase in produc­ mide. tion and that whatever increase has In the recent past IDPL have obtain­ been achieved, is due to expansion in ed technology from abroad for the investment? production of Penicillin G. Tetracy­ cline, Erythromycin, Semi-Synthetic THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM Penicillins, Doxycycline Hyclate and AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- Niacinamide. 2ERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : Technical know-how with strains (a) Technologies for the following and basic engineering details for K - drugs were obtained from M/s. Tech- Penicillin, Tetracycline and Erythro­ no-export, Moscow (USSR), in accor­ mycin and technical know-how and dance with contracts signed with them basic engineering for Doxycycline and on the 28th March, 1962, for Antibio­ Semi-Synthetic Penicillins have been tics Plant, Rishikesh and on the 18th obtained from M/s. Farmafin of Italy June, 1962, for Synthetic Drugs Plant, for a total fee of US $ 1.55 million. Hyderabad. The technical know-how including Antibiotics basic engineering for the production of Sodium penicillin, Procaine penicil­ Niacinamide was procured from M/s. lin, Sterptomycin sulphate, Tetracy­ Bofer’s of Sweden for a total fee of cline Hydro-chloride, Oxytetracycline Sw Kr. 20 lakhs. Hydrochloride, Nystatin, Chloro-tetra- (b)The production of antibiotics by cycline. IDPL during the last three years is shown in the attached statement. The Synthetic Drugs introduction of foreign technology re­ Phenacetin, Sulphanilamide, Sulpha- cently obtained, along with expansion, guanidine, Sulphadimidine, Vitamin is under implementation. B l, Sodium Sulphacyl, Folic Acid, (c) No, Sir.

Production o f Antibiotics a f ID PL — Rishih^.sh during the last three Years.

Year SI. No. Products Unit ' 975-76 >976-77 1977-78

1 Pot. Penicillin Saleable . MMU 4-« 3i 93-750 8-119

2 Sodium Penicillin • >) 37-384 20*980 .^7-435 3 Procaine Penicillin • ,, »7-552 19*392 30-699

4 Streptomycin Sulphate 45' 6i5 44-924 39 ‘ ° 5>

5 Tetracycline Hcl • >» 68-249 76-224 70-660

j6 Tetracycline base 7-a66 5* 160 8-466

7 0 xy-tetracycline Hcl • • ,, 41-051 36-539 34-7»7 8 Oxy-tetracydine base. • 9t 0‘ 4ia 0*148 >35 136-15 397'60 3J5 Written Antvaen NOVEMBER 21, 1978 WritUn An»w*r$ 256

B ndnve w tcMwattaa t«* 6.C. m A THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE S.T. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAN) : (a) to ic). A sur­ 383. SHRI B. C KAMBLE; Will the vey has been carried out for a new Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to passenger terminal for the trains of state: South-Eastern Railway at Padomapu- kur. No decision has so far been taken (a) \inder what provision of law regarding the constitution of the pro­ the Ministry ot Railways have made posed terminal as it is linked with the a provision in Chapter HI and Chap­ progress on the new Hooghly bridge ter Vn ol their Brochure on reser­ which will link the terminal with vation for Scheduled Castes and South Calcutta. Scheduled Tribes in the Railway Ser­ vices (Second Edition 1976) lor de­ reservation;

(b) whether Government propose 3 8 5. WVilWT W flf m rv : WT 4^ - to delete these provisions; and R iw , Twnni rflr inft ire ^

(c) if not, why not? (V) f^ R xr^ R V TO triH?nn Tft ^; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI ( « ) fin ^ IF ^ fir'V V TO SHEO NARAIN) : (a) Provisions in Chapter III and Chapter VII of the ^ ^ fftf I ; cftr ‘Brochure on reservation for Scheduled (^) irft ?t, fit Castes and Scheduled Tribes in Rail­ ^ irpmTT | ? way Services* have been made in ac­ cordance with Articles 16(4) and 335 of the Constitution. ifWT TUTiPf iftr 7WTV p m ft •Ifw ) (fi) S (b) No. % ^ 300 ^ • (c) Article 335 of the Constitution (^ ) «?TTV empowers the Government to exclude 'Ft iftiRT certain posts from the purview of re­ Hifft I servation rules and also to dereserve, in certain conditions, the reserved (^) I posts, keeping in view the maintenance of efficiency in administration and Toss caused to the Railway Property other relevant factors. hy the Recent Floods In the country 386. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will the Rail Traffic Coni:estion at Howrab Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to Station state:

384. SHRI RUDOLPH RODRIGUES: (a) the extent of loss caused to Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be the Railway property by the recent devastating floods in various parts of pleased Xq state: the country; (a) whether there is any plan to relieve rail traffic congestion at (b) its impact on the Eailway'a Howrah station by diversion to a earning both from freight and pas­ senger traffic; new proposed terminal; (b) il so, the details of the (c) what is the gap between the and estimated earnings for the current financial year and the actuals uptil (c) if not, why not? 30th September, 1978; 257 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 258

(d) whether the Railways e3Q>ect ber, 1978 but its impact is continuing to maintain the budgeted surplus; even during November as certain train and services still remain cancelled. The figures of earnings for September 1978 (e) if not, what effective measures are available, but figures for October by way of economy in unproductive 1978 are not available as yet. A de­ expenditure by the Railways are tailed estimate of the loss of earnings being taken to achieve this? is, therefore, not possible at this stage. However, on the basis of the «ivailable THE MINISTER OF STATE IN figures, the loss of earnings during THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS September and October, 1978 on ac­ (SHRI SHEO NARAIN) : (a) The count Of floods is estimated at about total loss of property suffered by the Rs. 20 crores. Railways due to recent floods (from 1-9-78 to 31-10-78) is estimated about Rs. 10 crorer>. (c) The table below gives the gap between the estimated earnings for the (b) The loss due to floods occurred current financial year and the actuals mainly during September and Octo­ to end of September, 1978; —

(in crores o f ru pees)^ ^

Budget Budget Actuals Variaticn Estimate Proportion to end of bctwrrn ^978-79 tceiidof Sept. 78 C0I.2&3 Sept. 78

I 2 3 4 EARNINGS

Passenger • • ^^57*98 330*52 333*94 H-3*42

Other coaching . - • ^92*63 42*57 42-44 — O' 13

Goods • • *430-55^ 698-89 646-78 - 5 2 - II r- ^ 0 - Sundries . • • 54-60 23-41 25-80 + 2*39 r ^ Total earnings. . • • • 2235-76 ^095*39 1048-96 “' 46*43

(d) and (e). It is too early to sr3 Effects of Pollution on Taj Mahal whether and to what extent the Rail ways will be able to maintain the 387. SHRT S. R. DAMANI : Will thn budget surplus. Certain post-budg^ Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ tary developments and particularly the CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased extensive damages caused hy floods are to state: likely to make a dent in the Railways’ financial performance for 1978-79. A (a) whether a seminar held at number of administrative measures Agra on *‘the effects of pollution on have been taken to secure savings Taj Mahal,” held in October, last ex­ through economies. A “Reserve** of pressed grave concern over the pol­ Rs. 69.44 crores has been retained from lution hazards of toxic emissions out of the voted grants, and the Zonal from the proposed Rs. 200 crore re­ Railways have been instructed to con­ finery near Mathura; tain the working expenses, within the reduced amounts allotted to them ex­ (b) if so, whether Government cluding the ‘Reserve*. have got the matter investigated 3010 LS— 10. Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answer-s 259 260 is otherwise not permitted, falls in further in depth to save the historic short supply due to any set-back in the Taj Mahal and other monuments in indigenous production. import of such Agra and temple in Mathura and items can be arranged through public game sanctuary in Bharatpur from sector agencies to meet the shortfall. '\ impending ruination when the re- In such cases ad hoc imports of items finery goes on steam; and otherwise banned for import are al- (c) whether there is any alterna- lowed. Such actio-, was taken during tive sites under Government's consi- 1977 and 1978 (upto October, 1978) in deration to shift the Refinery, if so, the Iollowing cases:- where? (i) Aspirin: - The manufacturing Plant of Mis Alta Laboratories Pvt. THE MINISTER OF PETROU~(;-,\1 Ltd., Bombay, the major manutac- AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- turer of this drug in the country, ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : was closed on 2:l-8-77 on account of (a) Yes, Sir. workers' strike arising out of sone • industrial dispute, Strike continLled (b) The Government appointed an for about 1-1/2 months. To cover Expert Committee in July, 1974 to ad- the production gap. a quantity of Jon $,. vise the Project Authorities on the tonnes was imported on ael hoc bar is measures to be taken for keeping the in 1977 through the CPC. pollution effects of the Mathu ra Re- (i) Dapsone: - In Feb-March, finery to the absolute minimum and 1978, sbortage of this anti-Leprosy the Ministry of Petroleum on the pol- drug was felt and it was estimated lution aspects of other ancillary and that a quantity of 5 tonnes of this downstream industries. The report of item should be imported On ad h'JC the Committee, which w;J.5 placed in basi, in 1977 through the CPC. This both the Houses of Parliament on import has since been made. In 14-8-1978, is presently under consider- early Sept., 1978 it was further de- ation of Government. cided to import another qu auti ty :;f (c) No, Sir. 5 tonnes of this drug 0,1. ad hoc basis in view of continuing shortage. Release of Imported Raw Materials On ad hoc basis (i ii) Hydrocortisone:-This is an 388. SHRI MOTIBHAI R. CHAU- intermediate chemical required for DHARY: Will he Minister r-f PETRO- the manufacture of Prednisolone LEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- which is at present produced only oy ZERS be pleased to state: !VIIs Wyeth Laboratories Ltd. in this country. In May 1977 the production (a) Rationale of recommending of Prednisolone, which was canalis- release of imported raw materials on ed for import during 1977-78, was ad .hoc basis; dsrupte-I on account of some con- (b) in how many cases there were tamination in the fermentation plant. ad hoc release of canalised bulk On a representation from this com- drugs; and pany an ad hoc import of 100 kgs of Hydrocortisone was allowed to this (C) imports of bulk drugs were company as the same would result recommended during the last two in SUbstantial foreign exchange sav- years; with full details? ing vis-a-vis import of Prednisolone. ~fi THE MINISTER OF PETHOLEUM The cases in which ad hoc releases AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- of canalised bulk drugs have been re- ZERS (SHR H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) ~, commended on the above basis are to (c). Both Import Trade Control indicated below:- Policy, 1977-78 (Vol. I) and Import Policy, 1978-79 provide that whenever 1. A quantity of 250 kgs of Strepto- a particular item the import of which mycin Sulphate was recommended tor 261 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 190() (SAKA) Written Answers 262 bri ng released on ad hoc basis in Dec., FeirtiUzicr Dealership to Scheduled 1977 in favour of M/s Dey’s Medical Castes and Scheduled Tribes Stores Pvt. Ltd, Calcutta subject to the condition that the entire quantity 389. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: should be used specifically for the manufacture of their product ‘Entro- SHRI RAMACHANDRAN strep’ both in the form of capsules and KADANNAPPALLI: suspension for supply to the cyclone afTected areas in Tamil Nadu and Will the Minister of PETROLEUM. Andhra Pradesh. CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: 2. In September^ 1977 some addi­ tional quantities of Tetracycline, Oxy- (a) whether Fertiliser Corporation tetracycline, Chloramphenicol, Strepto­ of India has decided to award ferti­ mycin, Ampicillin, Erythromycin and lizer dealership to persons belonging Doxycycline were recommended for to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled release in favour of M/s Gluconate Tribes; Ltd., Calcutta whose management was taken over by Government under the (b) if so, whether any scheme has KD&R) Act. This unit was treated as been prepared in this regard; and a small scale unit because the value of (c) if so, what are the details of plant and machinery in their case was the same and when the scheme is understood to b-3 below Rs. 10 lakhs. likely to be implemented? The additional releases were recom­ mended so as to help the unit in im­ plementing its expansion programme THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, by taking up manufacture of capsules AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ based On various items of antibiotics. ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. The salient fea­ 3. In September/October, 197« HAL tures of the scheme formulated by the were recommended ad hoc releases of Fertilizer Corporation of India are as 1500 kgs each of Erythromycin Stear­ under:— ate and Chloramphenicol Powder so as to help them in developing and in­ (i) At least 25 per cent of all troducing formulations based on these future dealerships in fertilizers bulk drugs for which they were ap­ will be reserved for SC/ST candi- proved through issue of a letter of d;ates. intent dated 9-9-75. (ii) The dealership is open to ap­ Jt would be seen that ad hoc release plicants who have not completed 45 of canalised bulk drugs has been au­ years of age on the date of applica­ thorised in the foUowing situations:— tion. (i) To cover additional require­ (iii) An applicant who had been ments for meeting situations arising residing in a district for at least 5 out of natural calamities like cy­ years Would be deemed to belong to clones, floods, etc. that district for purposes of this sche^me. (ii) To help in the process of re­ habilitation of sick units whose man­ (iv) Dealers selected under this agement is taken over by Govern­ scheme will be supplied with fast ment urider the Industries (Deve­ moving fertilizers fpr the first thre^ lopment and Regulation) Act, 1951. years. (iii) To assist the Public Sector (v) These dealers will be given pnit^ in developing and introducing higher margin for the sale of ferti­ new lormulattpns as per their ap-^ liz e as is now applicable to insti- pr^yi^ mmufaGturing programme. tutioMli agei^tiM^ ;lS3 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21. 1978 Written Answers 264

(vi) In order to ensure that only ween a railway employee and one deserving candidates get this oppor­ Press Correspondent. After an enquiry tunity, a representative of the Sche­ by a senior railway officer, the railway duled Castes/Scheduled Tribes Com­ employees was suspended from 29-9- missioner of the concerned State or 78. As a result, railway staff at Delhi- an equivalent authority of the State Sarai Rohilla Station stopped work will be associated with the selection. vvhirh caused dislocation of trains and inconvenience to passengers. The prob­ (vii) The dealership will be avail- lem was sorted out after consultation able only to those who are unemploy­ with the staff representatives, and ed (except for casual employment). work was resumed on 30-9-78 at 21.00 In case a person in employment de­ hours. sires to have a dealership he will have to give an undertaking in writ­ The railway employees will not be ing that on appointment as a dealer paid any wages on the prinx:inle of he will resign from his service. “No wnrk no pay” i’or the period of absen::e. The scheme has already been given effect to by the Fertilizer Corporation Subir.ission of Accounts by Large In­ of In-ia Ltd. The applications receiv­ dustrial Houses and Multinationals ed in response to the advertisement issued by the Fertilizer Corporation of 391. SHRI K. A. RAJAN: Will the India from eligible candidates for Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND dealership in fertilizers are under scru­ COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to tiny. state:

Lightening: Strike by Employees at (a) whether Government hav^ ?;>k- Sarai Rohilla Station ed the large industrial houses incliid- ing multinationals to submit detailed 390. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: accounts for 1976-77 and 1975-76,

SHRI RAMACHANDRAN (b) if so, whether any lime limit KADANNAPPALLI: has been given for the same; and

Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be (c) if so, what ^re the details there­ pleased to state: of? (a) whether it is a fact that 10,000 commuters were stranded after 200 THE MINISTER OF LAV/, JUSTICE railway employees went on a lighten­ AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ing strike at Sarai Rohilla railway SHANTI BHUSHAN) : (a) to (c). station on 29th September, 1978; Yes. Sir. A Notification has been pub­ lished in the Gazette of India-Extra­ (b) if so, the main reasons for the ordinary dated the 24th August, 1978, same; by which all companies whose under­ (c) what action was taken by the takings are registered under sub-sec­ Ministry; tion (2) of Section 26 of the MRTP A-t, including several undertakings (d) whether any inquiry was con­ belonging to large industrial houses ducted in this regard; and and multinationals, were ordered by the Central Government, in exercise of (e) the action taken against those the powers conferred by section 43 o f held responsible? the Act, to forward to the Department of Company Affairs two copies of their THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE annual reports including the balance MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI sheet and profit and loss account for SHEO NARAIN) : (a) to (e). On the accounting years ending in the ca­ 27-9-78, there was some dispute bet­ lendar years 1976 and 1977 and for 365 'Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 26^ every subsequent accounting year. The process the report of Sachar Com­ annual reports are to be forwarded mittee on laws relating to monopolies within 30 days from the date of the and companies; order in the case of t.ie accounting years ending in 1976 and 1977 and in (b) if so, the details of creation other cases within 30 days from the and function of this special cell; and date on which the relevant annual re­ port including the accounts was V'lacod (c) when the Government will im­ before the Annual General Meeting of plement the Sachar Committee Le- th^ concerned company or where the port? Annual General Meeting lor any year has not boen held, within 30 days f.om THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE the last date on or before which the AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI said me ting should have been held SHANTI BHUSHAN) : (a) to (c). under the provisions of the Companies A special cell for processing the report Act, 1956. This order is without pre­ Of the Sachar Committee and for judice to the provisions contained in taking necessary follow up action on srn tion 220 of the Conipanit's Act, its recommendations has already been 1956. set up by Government with effect from 1-11-78. The cell consi:sls of the Trial Production by TaUher lollowing: — Fertiliser Project D<£ignation of post 392. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: No of posts Wr.l the Minister of PETRGLKUAT, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be plea:ed to state; Deputy Secretary (a) whether thg Talcher Fertilizer Investigating Officers Project is expected to go on for tri-il Assistant production by March, 1979; and Lower Division Clerks. (b) the target of production of air separation units? Peons

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM T o t a l AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA); After the various recommendations (a) Production of urea on a trial basis of the Committee are considered by from the Talcher Fertilizer Project is Government, appropriate steps, includ­ expected by the end of February, 1979. ing legislative amendments, may be found necessary, to imolcment them (b) The first stream of air separa­ will be taken as expeditiously as pos­ tion plant was commissioned in sible. August, 1977 and the 2nd stream in Octob?r, 1978. Both the streams are Tunning at rated capacity. Memorandum by all India Petroleum Traders res^arding: slab system of Creation of a Special Cell t© Process Commission report of Sachar Committee 394. SHRI R, P. DAS : Will the 393. SHRI AHMED M. PATEL: Will Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI­ the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to to state: state: (a) whether the Federation of All (a) whether Government are ctAi- India Petroleum Traders in their sidering to create a special cell to memorandum of 15th August, 1978 267 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Written Answ^s 26S

sub mitted to Government, have Restontlon of Rail Services in brought out in detail the deficiencies Eastern Railway of the Oil Price Commission Report on the basis of which the slab system of 395. SHRI R. P. DAS : Will the commission was adopted; Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the deficiencies mentioned (a) the reason as to why both the in the memorandum; suburban and non-suburban rail ser­ vices under Sealdah Division, Eastern (c) the reactions in regard lo the Railway could not be brought back general observations made in the to normalcy even after the recent memorandum; and ~ floods had receded far from the rail track to the pre-27th September, 1978 (d) whether the slab system of position; and commission has proved detrimental to the normal business? (b) what stood in the way to restore normal rail service from Calcutta to Flassey in the Ranaghat Lalgola Sec­ THE MINISTER OF PETROL.EUM tion when there were neither any AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ branches nor any break in between ZERS (SHRl H. N. BAHUGUNA) : the two stations to maximise the run­ (a) The Federation of All India Petro­ ning of relief materials and essential leum Traders has addressed a letter commodities to the hard hit areas of dated 15-8-1978 and has brought out the district of Nadia? t ie difficulties which the dealers are stated to be experiencing. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (b) Broadly, the letter represents SHEO NARAIN) : (a) and (b). against the slab rate of commission for After the floods receded massive effort petrol and diesel oil, non-provision or was made to repair the track, bridges inadequate provision of certain costs etc. and the restoration of train ser­ e.g. credit, bonus, bad debts, evapora­ vices started on 30-9-78 in Sealdah tion and handling losses etc. Division. Train services on Ranaghat Krishananagar section were restored (c) The present arrangement is bas­ On 1-10-78 and Ranaghat-Plassey on ed on the revised recommendations 4-10-78. However, due to extensive of the Oil Prices Committee- an ex­ damage to track which also necessi­ pert body which examined a fairly tated construction of a temporary large and representative cross section bridge, through train services on of the retail pump outlets, and v/ent Krishnanagar-Lalgola section could be into every aspect of the question. This restored only on 5-11-1978. has been explained several times to the Federation by letters and in meet­ ings with their representatives. Application for enhancement of emoluments of a Director of Porrits (d) This cannot be said as the extra and Spencer (Asia) Limited commission the dealers now get is about Rs. 18 crores p.a. compared to what 396. SHRI ANANT DAVE : Will the they were getting prior to 1-7-76 when Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND the slab system was first introduced. COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to This is more than what they realise state; from consumers through selling prices. In other words, the dealers are given (a) whether any application for the something extra from out of the in­ enhancement of emoluments from dustry pool accounts. Rs. 3000/- P.M. to Rs. 5000/- P.M. is .69 Written Anwc^ers KARTIKA 30, IMO (SAKA) Wrmen Afmvers ijo pending with Gnivemment in respect OieeiBion. taken by Cctmmtttee for •of one of the Directors of Porrits and Matitbiition M U AOi Spencer (Asia) Ltd., Faridabad for S97. SHEi VASANT SATHE; approval; SHRI ISHWAR CHAWDHRY: (b) whether such a request receiv­ SHRI SUBASH CHANDRA ed earlier was rejected; and BOSE ALLUEI:

(c) on what fresh grounds the Will the Minister of PETROUEUM, CMi;MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be Company has applied for the enhance­ ment of emoluments and what action pleased to state: has been taken by the Government? (a) whether Government have set up a high power committee to go into THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE all aspects of production/distribution AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI and suggest lasting solution to the SHANTI BHUSHAN) : fa) to (c). 11 problems of Soda Ash shortages; is presumed that the Hon'ble Member is referring to the case of Shri K. C. (b) if so furnish details of the Tapadar, Whole-Time Director of the decision takeM in this regard and Company. Shri K. C. Tapadai was how soon the committee is expected appointed as a Whole-time Director of to submit its report; and the Company for a period of 5 years with etiect from 1-4-1973 on a salary ic) pending receipt of the report Of Rs. 3000f- per month plus bonus of the panel, what measures have and perquisites. However, in May, been taken by Government to ensure 1976 the company applied for an in­ adequate supply of Soda Ash to the crease in his salary from Rs. 3000/- to small scale soap and detergent manu­ Rs. 4500/- per month and commission facturers; and the extent of import on net profits subject to a maximum of of soda ash proposed its value for Rs. 12,000/- per annum with effect the current year and the steps taken from 1-5-1976. After considering the for its fair distribution keeping in facts and circumstances of the case, view the interest of small scale units the Department approved a salary of and details of action taken .agaktft Rs. 4000/- per month with effect from tbe big unit cornering major chunk 1-5-1976 and also allowed him commis­ (of available soda ash bv adopting un­ sion (in lieu of Bonus) as proposed. fair means? On completion of his previous tenure, the Company made an application in May, 1978 for his re-appointment as THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM the Whole-trme Director of the com­ AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ pany lor a period of 3 years with effect ZER (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): from 3-4-1978 on a salary of Rs. 6000/- (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. A High Powered per month plus 1 per cent commission ♦Committee under the Chairmanship on net profits plus perquisites. Con­ of Prof. Gopal Tripathi, Retired Dean, sidering the sound financial position of Department of Chemical Technology, the company and its working results Banaras Hindu University, has been and the fact that Shri' Tapadar was a set up to go into all aspects of pro­ Textile Technologist havin:^ sufficient duction, movement and marketing of experience, his reapppintmg;nt was ap­ soda ash with special reference to the proved by the Department in Septem­ causes of the current shortage and to ber, 1978 for a period of 2 years with suggest ways and m^ans of preventing effect i’rom 3-4-^1978 on a salary of recurrence,-Of .such a .situation in the Rs. 5000/- per jtnonth plu^ coinn^siDn soda ash Industry. The other me^nbers on net profits subject to ^ maximum of of the Committee sare:- Rs. 20,000/^ per annum plus lies as per guidelines. (a) A reppesentative DQTD. 271 Written Answers NOVEMBER 21. 1978 Written Answers 272

(b) A representative of the Bur­ high rate, losses to the extent of eau ot industrial Costs & Prices Rs. 12.50 crores are caused to the (c) A representative of the Rail­ national exchequer every year; way Board. (b) if so, details thereof; and

(d) A representative of the De­ (c) whether Government will insti­ partment of Coal. tute an inquiry into this deal and take (e) Director (Chem.) Department action against the persons responsible for the same? of Chemicals & Fertilizers—Conve­ ner. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM " he Committee is expected to submit AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): its report by 31-1-1979. (a) No, Sir. (c) There is no statutory' control (b) and (c). Do not arise. over^ prices and distribution of soda ash. " It has however been impressed Setting up of Fertilizer Plants upon the soda ash manufacturers that Government is keenly interested in 399. SHRI SANTOSHRAO GODE: ensuring the smooth flow and adequate Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, availability of soda ash to various CHEMICALS a n d FERTILIZERS be consuming industries particularly pleased to state: small scale units at fair prices. ^a) how many factories arc being The manufacturers have also as­ established during the current finan­ sured the Government that all indus­ cial year; and trial consumers including small scale units would be supplied soda, ash by (b) which are the States in which them in proportion to the quantities these factories are being located? purchased from them during the pre­ vious year. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ Government have authorised the ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): CPC to import 10,000 tonnes of soda (a) and (b). The following fertilizer ash each through the All India Glass projects are presently in various stages Manufacturers Federation and the All of implementation. The States in India Silicate Manufacturers Associa­ which they are located are :>hown tion who will be distributing the against each: imported soda ash to all small scale manufacturers o f silicate and glass. Name of the Projcct State in which located

Settinf up of Cochin Refinery and sapplj of crude by Phillips Petroleum, 1* Haldia . W. Bengal Company 2. Ramagundam . Andhra Pradesh

398. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: 3. Talcher O ri^ Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, 4. Sindri Modernisa* CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be tion . . Bihar pleased to state: 5. Sindri Rationalisa­ tion Bihar. (a) whether it is a fact that by rea­ r son of a deal struck by Government 6 TrombayIV Maharadhtra. with Phillips Petroleum Company, an American multinational, for setting 7. TrombayV. Maharaahtra. up of Cochin Refinery and for sup- 8. Bhatinda . Punjab piying crude to it at exorbitant]^ .^73 Written Answers KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Written AnswerM 274

Manufacturing companies to rush Name of the State in which assistance in the matter of drugs to Project located the flood affected States;

9. Panipat 4 • Haryana (b) if so, the names of such com­ panies, drug contribution and its prices, 10. H. C L. (Kiictri) Rajasthan which have been sent to each flood 11. IFFCO (Phulpur) Uttar Pradesh affected State/Union Territory dur­ ing the current year; and 12. Narmada Valley Project . . Gujarat (c) which flood affected States Go­ vernment have sought increasing 13. Nagarjunc Project assisiance/supply of drugs/medicines (Kakinada) . Andlira Pradesh and how they have been met or proposed to be met? In addition to the above projects, it is proposed ix) set up 5 gas based THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM fertilizer plants, 2 each jn Maharashtra a n d CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ and Gujarat based on Bombay High/ ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): Soath Bassein gas and one in Assam (a> and (b). Yes, Sir. IDPL were so based on gas available from oilfields directed and they (with financial of O.N.G.C. and Oil India Ltd. Besides, assistance from some other Public Sector Companies of the Ministry) letters of intent have been issued to the following parties for setting up contributed drugs worth Rs. 17 lakhs to the following States:— additional fertilizer capacities the locations indicated against each. Rs, in lakhs. West Bengal Nam? of the Party L )cation 3*00 Uttar Pradesh . 5*00

1. M/s. Indian Explo­ Bihar 3*00 sives Ltd, (Expan­ sion) . . . Kanpur, U. P. Haryana 2* 00

2. M/s. M. P. Delhi . 1-50 Morarji Fertilizer Ltd, . . Meghnagar, M. P, Himachal Pradesh . 1*00

3. M/s. Bihar Caustic Punjab . 1-50 & Chemicals Ltd, Rehala, Bihar T o t a l 17*00 4. M/s, Polymer Cor­ poration of Gujarat Ltd. . . Gujarat Hindustan Antibiotics Limited and 5. M/s. Deepak Ni­ Smith Stanistreet Pharmaceuticals trite Ltd. . . Taloja, Maharashtra Limited also donated essential medi­ cines worth Rs. 1.02 lakhs and Rs. 20,000 respectively to the West Bengal Government. Assistance of Dmgrs to Flood Affected Areas (c) The Government of West Ben­ gal made a request for arranging sup­ 400. SHRI AHMED HUSSAIN: Will ply of essential medicines and alloca­ the Minister o f PETROLEUM, CHE­ tion of canalised raw materials to MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be West Bengal firms and instructions pleased to state: were issued to drug manufacturing firms and canalising agencies to (a) whether Government have arrange their supply expeditiously. directed the Public Sector Drug ^75 Pmpers liOVBilBER 21, 1978 Papers iaid * 7 6

12.02 hfs. amendments in the description of the eoft6tl#ttencies to'flteHttkQe VI of the ^>elimitation of’lHniiamen- MR. SPEAKER: Now papers to be laid. tary and Assembly Constituencies Order, 1976.

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE (iii) S.O. 555(E) published in Gezette of India dated the 12th N otificatioks U nder C o m p a n ie s A c t , September, 1978, making certain R epresentation of th e P eo ple A ct amendments in the description of AND S e v e n ty fo u r th R eport of th e the constituencies in Schedule XX L a w C o m m is s io n of the Delimitation of Parliamen­ tary and Assembly Constituencies THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE Order, 1976. AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI (iv) S.O. 565(E) published in SHANTI BHUSHAN): I beg to lay Gazette of India dated the 25th on the Table: — September, 1978, making certain corrections in the description of ( 1) A copy of Notification No. the constituencies in Schedule G.S.R. 473(E) (Hindi) and English XIII of the Delimitation of Parlia­ versions) published in Gazette of mentary and Assembly Constitu­ India dated the 26th September, encies Order, 1976. 1978, authorising the Chief Officer, Deputy Chief Officer and Assistant [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 2770 /78 .] Chief Officers attached to the De­ partment of Non-Banking Compa­ nies. Reserve Bank of India to in­ (3) A copy of the Seventy-fourth Report of the Law Commission stitute penal proceedings for offence (Hindi version) on proposal to punishable under sub-section (-e) amend the Indian Evidence Act, of section 58A of the Companies Act, 1956 issued under section 621 of the 1872, So as to render admissible cer­ tain statements made by witnesses said Act, [Placed in Library, See before the Commissions of Inquiry No. LT-2769/78.] and other Statutory authorities. (2) A copy each of the following [Placed in Library. See No. LT- Notifications (Hindi and English •2771 /78 .] versions) under s^b-section (2) of section 9 of the Representation of R a il w a y R ed T a r if f (S ix t h A m e n d ­ the People Act, 1950: — m e n t ) R ules

(i) S.O. 508(E) published in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Gazette of India dated the 19th THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS August, 1978, making certain (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): I beg to amendments in the description of lay on the Table a copy of the Railway the constituencies in Schedule XI Red Tariff (Sixth Amendment) Rules, of the Delimitation of Parliamen­ 1978 (Hindi and English versions) tary and Assembly Constituencies pubHshed in Notification No. G. S. R. Order, 1976. 1293 in Gezette o f India dated the 28 th October, 1978 , issued under section 47 (II) S.O. 520(E) published in of the iRdtan RaSlway Act, 1890 . Gazette of India dated the 28th t^^toced W3rary. 9ee No. LT-2772 / August, 1978 making certain 7 8 .]

•The vecvion ot l^e Report was Uid on the TaWe on the 24th August, 1978. 277 Strflte 'by PbH iLrid-ltMd^ltA fc0, 'life ^RflStA) ®»«c 'Worters (CAO 278-

1205 tos. Emergency privilegfes ha-Ve % e n ’re­ stored. In Bombay port, the benefits accruing to workers on account of re­ CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE storation of overtime alone is abjut Rs. 80 lakhs per annum. Apart from this, a number of measures have been S tr ik e by port and dock w o r k e r s taken in individual Ports also to re­ move the genuine grievances of the SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN workers. (Cooch-Behar): I call the attention of the hon. Minister of Shipping and Transport to the following matter of The Unions affiliated to Ail India urgent public importance and I re­ Port and Dock Workers Federation quest that he may make a statement (HMS) served notices of strike from thereon: 27-10-1978 onwards on port authori­ ties of Bombay, Calcutta, Madras, ‘■Reported strike by port and dock Vi?:akhapatnam, Cochin, Mormugao, workers and its repercussion on Kandla and Paradip threatening to call loading and unloading operations in a strike from the 16th November, 1978 the port areas and on public ex­ over a charter of demands. The unions chequer.” affiliated to the Port, Dock and Water­ front Workers’ Federation of India THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (AITUC) also served strike notices in CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF CtJlcutta and Visakhapatnam. The SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRl Unions affiliated to Water Transport CHAND RAM): Ever since the Workers’ Federation of India (CITU) Janata Government came to power, we served strike notices at Cochin. The have been trying our best to improve strike notices contained many local wages and other amenities for the demands, while some of the demands workers in Ports and Docks Industry. are of all India nature such as revision Soon -after assumption of office by the of Piece Rate Schemes, rectification of new Government, we arrived at a anomalies and discrepancies arising settlement in July, 1977 with all the out of the implementation of the Federations of port and dock workers W.R C. recommendations, increase in increasing their wages retrospectively rate of increment, etc. from 1-1-1974. With this settlement, Rs. 46 crores were paid as arrears to One of the major pending demands the workers and the total amount of of workers relates to revision of piece- wages and other allowances payable rate schemes. Government has already to the workers has increased by Rs. agreed in principle that piece-rate 19 crores per annum. The rate of ex- schemes will be revised and also ex­ gratia in lieu of bonus which had tended to new categories, wherever bee reduced to 4 per cent during Emer­ feasible. In June, 1978, discussions gency v^-^s again raised to 8.33 percent were held with the representatives of immediately after the present Govern­ the Federations of port and dock ment assumed office. Schemes for workers for this purpose. The repre­ housing and provision of other welfare sentatives of the Federations insisted amenities for workers amounting? to that the revision should take place Rs. 5 crOres have been sanctioned through negotiations at Port level. I since April, 1977. The cases of victi­ am happy to say that these negotia­ misation of employees during the tions have been successful in Mormu­ Emergency have been reviewed. Tn gao, Kandla, Cochin ^ d Visakha­ a number of cases Where cTian^s patnam. Negotiations in other Ports brou^t about in the conditions of work are in progress. during Emergency had affected the workers adversely thi’ough curtail­ Another major d^^and l^^es to ment of overtime ‘ earnings; ^ c., ^ pfe- rectifttation t)f amom^&s aHsflur ‘out a j9 strike by Port nnd NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Dock workers (CA) 280

[Shri Chand Ram] the Port Trusts, as the case might be. While the leaders of the Indian of the implementation of the recom­ National Port and Dock Workers’ mendations of the Wage Revision Federation, Port Dock and Water­ Committee. It took some time to set front Workers’ Federation of India up the machineo^ for this purpose as and Water Transport Workers’ Fed there was difference of opinion in the eration of India agreed to these arrang- niatter between All India Port and ments, the All India Port and Dock Dock Workers Federation and the Workers’ Federation did not respond other three FeTierations. Eventually, an to my appeal. However, with a view officers* level Anomalies Group was set to arrive at a negotiated settlement up on 26th April. 1978. The Group over these major pending clemanis. I has already visited all the Ports and invited the representatives of ail the held discussions with the Unions four all India Federations for another 'except in Bombay w’here some of the round of discussion at Delhi on 24th Unions affiliated to the All India Port instant. and Dock Workers’ Federation did not co-operative. While strenuous efforts were thus being made to arrive at the settle­ Our Government believes firmly in ment on major pending demands ex- negotiated settlement of all labour dis­ V-sditiously. I am pained to inform putes. In conformity with this the Hon. House that the unions affilia- approach, on 10-11-1978. I called a tod to All India Port and Dock meeting of the representatives of four Workers’ Federation resorted to a all India federations for port and sudden strike from the night of 15th dock workers, namely, All India Port November, 1978 in Bombay Port. Th? and Dock Workers’ Federation affiliates of this federation in the Ports (HMS), Indian National Port and of Madras, Mormugao, Kandla. Cal­ Dock Workers’ Federation (INTUC) cutta, Paradip and Visakhapatnam Port, Dock and Waterfront Workers’ have also gone on strike from the mid­ federation of India (AITUC) and night of 16th November. They have IVater Transport Workers’ Federa­ also gone on strike in the Port of Cochin tion of India (CITU). Shri Ravindra from the mid-night of 18-11-78. I am Varma, Labour Minister also partici­ glad to inform the House that the pated in the discussion for some time. affiliates of other three federation?, The meeting was called by me to namely, INTUC, AITUC and CITU discuss ways and means to bring im­ have not participated in the strike, ex­ provement and efficiency in the port cept in an isolated case in Madras •operations and to increase labour pro­ where one of the INTUC Unions has ductivity and to discuss major pend- also joined the strike. in^^ demands of labour. During the meeting I stressed the need for main- As a result of the strike, manual taining industrial peace in the major loading and unloading operations in ports as the port industry plays a Bombay, Mormugao, Cochin, Madras vital role in the economy of the coun­ and Kandla Ports have almost come to try and appealed to the labour leaders a stand still. However, the Oil Termi­ for their cooperation. During the nal at Butcher Island in Bombay is meeting I took note of some of the functioning and mechanical loading of major pending demands of port and iron ore and mechanical pumping of dock workers as identified in the meet­ POL products at Madras and dis­ ing by representatives of the federa­ charge of fertilizers through Marine tions and assured the representatives Unloader in Kandla are continuing. that a decision would be taken on these Normal loading and unloading 0];>era- .demands by the end of November, tlons are continuing in Calcutta, 1978 at the level of the Government or Visakhapatnam, Paradip, Tuticorin 28i strike by Port and KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Dock workers (CA) ; 8z and Man galore. The Marine Depart­ would have leamt some lesson from ment in Calcutta Port has, however, yesterday’s protest march against the been adversely affected. Black Bill, the Industrial Relations Bill, but I am sorry the Janata Gov­ The financial impact of strike in the ernment is still suffering from its anti­ port industry is multifarious, covering labour policy. a wiriety of private interescts such as shipping companies, importers, ex­ The Port and Dock workers’ strike porters. and indirectly agriculture, is not a day-to-day affair. During the industry and consumers. It is not last 30 years, it was for eleven days in possible to compute all these losses on 1958, for five days in 1975 and now it account of the strike. Losses to the has been going on for the last five Port Aulhorities, Dock Labour Boards days. My first appeal to the Janata and pu blic exchequer also cannot be Government and to the hon. Minister assessed so soon. in particular is this; please do not make it as a prestige issue and do not A strike in the Ports at this juncture be guided by anti-labour policy. will se.'ioai^'ly aflect our efforts at im- provi'ji; the iot of the people. The I do not agree with the hon. Minis* delay in unloading of fertilizers will lev in what he has said in his state­ deprive the farmers of the required ment, in para 8. It is a fact so far as fertilizers at this crucial time for our information goes—that out of the sowing the rabi crops, which will ten major ports, Bombay, Mormugao, adversely alTect food production in Cochin and Kandla are completely the country and the income of the paralysed due to the strike while Irrmers. Shortage of petroleum pro­ Madras and Calcutta also remain vir­ ducts due to delays in handling of tually paralysed. Moreover, it is a imported supplies will put many fact that Government is trying its best power stations out of commission, ?o break the strike through some un­ causing unemployment amongst work­ scrupulous and heinous activities in ers engaged in the factories served by Calcutta such as posting of the Navy these power stations. Similarly delays Ship, 'Nirdeshak\ in Netaji Subhas in unloading of edible oils and other Dock with naval officers. It is reported essential consumer goods will increase that as a result of the strike, 94 ships- th?ir prices for the poor consumers. are stranded in at Bombay, 35 in Cal­ Export efforts will also be adversely cutta, 17 in Goa (carrying ore to hit, Japan), 30 in Madras and 20 in Cochin. It is surprising that the Minister has I hope that the All India Port and tried to call it a partial strike. D'ock Workers’ Federation will call off the strike in the larger national inter­ Regarding their demands, I would est and participate in the discussion like to say that the demands of the called by me on 24-11-1978 so that All India Port and Dock Workers Fed­ ni^^otiated settlement can be arrived eration are quite reasonable and at on the pending demands. Shri justified. They have submitted a Ravindra Varma, Minister of Labour, memorandum long ago but nothing is exploring the possibilities of the has been done so long. Even now- strike being caled off by the federation they are ready for negotiations with- and I hope that his efforts will bear the government for a settlement. In fruit soon. to-day's newspapers it has been re­ ported: SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN: I “Shri S. R. Kulkarni accompanied am very sorry to hear the statement by 121 dock workers* leaders has made by the hon. Minister. I had a been here for more than two days.' faint hope that the Janata Government a83 Strike by Port and NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Dock workers (CA) 284

(Shri Amar Roy Pradhan] them and said that for the dead­ line. .. (Interruptions) MR. Kulkarni is reported to have saijd^ SHRI SAUGATA ROY (Bar- rackpore): To strike in a funda­ “We do not w^nt the strike and mental right. cause loss to the nation. We have not presented any new demands. SHRI CHAND RAM: Even before There are several demands which the deadline of the 16th I was pre­ have been long accepted by the gov­ pared to call a meeting with this ernment. It is for their implemen­ Federation. (Interruptions) Our tation that the government has not friends a^'e talking. Need I remind given its formal approval.” them the days of the emergency? {Intemiptiojis) It is reported in to-day Statesman.

'‘Mr. Kulkarni said at night that MR. SPEAKER; Mr. Mini ter, inter-union rivalry was not the please answer the question and not issue germane to the strike. ‘If the the other interruptions. government is not prepared to have a negotiated settlement, the strike SHRI CHAND RAM; We arrived will continue.’ ” at a settlement with this Federation and other Federations in July 1977 I would like to know very clearly and most of their major demands from the hon. Minister ( 1) Whether have been met and as a result of that the government is ready to consider acceptance we have paid Rs. 46 crores the Charter of Demands of the Dock as arrears with retrospective effect Workers without asking them to first from 1st January 1974. Does this call off the strike or the Government show any anti-labour attitude on the will not insist that the Federation pa’ t of this government? should first call off the strike? (2) Will the Government imme­ Moreover Rs. 90 crores is the annual diately open talks for a lettlement burden that has come On the govern­ instead of waiting for' the 24th, the ment as a result of that agreement. date fixed for talks by the Ministry Now that also we have accepted. and which has been referred to in the last paragraph of the Minister’s state­ I have also clarified that at Bombay ment? which ha: been badly affected, we have also paid Rs. 80 lakhs as over­ These are my two questions. time, an amount which was given as a result of the restoration of the over­ SHRI CHAND RAM: I think I time that was stopped during emer­ have made the position of the Gov­ gency days. ernment very clear in the statement itself and I have always kept the door On 2t)th October I settled with the for negotiations open. BPT employees that those posts which were abolished during the emergency I have also made the position of the would also be restored. ‘CJovemment c l^ r in reply to a call attention motion in the Rajya Sabha. These are the steps I have tak­ Our doors are always open and we en. Sir, we are always prepared but are not prepared and I hope the one federation is unreasonable, is it House will concur with me, that we not the duty of this House to bring are not prepared to talk to those them round to the table and negotiate peof>le who say that they will go on with uz? I am prepared to discuss strike hold the whole nation to with them even today, even this after­ Fansom. This is my position. We are noon, tomorrow and continue to sit •always prepared to negotiate with with them if they are prepared. I 2J»s smk^ Port and RARTIKA 30, 19® (SAKA) Dock workers (CA) 286 have made my position clear. This for this. Afler all, it is the duty of federation, in to-day’s papers I find, the Government to set up the Anoma­ have again insisted that they have lies Committee. Even after negotia­ given a draft agreement to my co-lle- tions which they dragged On for more ague, Mr. Varma, that they are pre­ than a year, they did not come to any pared to talk with Government only better position. After that, what did if the Government ig prepared to they do? They excluded the workers negotiate with this Federation only. because the Federation did not want This position we are not going to to sit in that Committee. So, natu­ accept. rally, the Government by its dilly­ dallying and prevarications did not Sir, when the other three Federa­ really come to any settlement on this tions have all stood by that they are issue. The matter was delayed. It is agrocable to ne^^otiate, why this very disappointing. I would like to Federation alone is not prepared to know: what is the actual position negotiate? and at what irreducible terms—terms and conditions—the Government MR. SPEAKER: You have made would negotiate. It is not only that your point. Mr. Barua. the workers are accused of standing on prestige but it is, I think^ Government SHRI BEDABRATA BARUA (Kali- itself who is accused of standing on abor): Sir, the Minister’s statement prestige. Who takes the credit for leaves many things unclear. It is un­ this? As a Member of this House or fortunate that in a matter in which the as a citizen of this country I am not nation’s welfare is involved and a involved in that kind of thing. I huge production loss is involved, the would certainly like to see that this Government has not been able to matter is settled. It is not a question settle the m’atter^ expeditiously. of somebody”s taking the credit for imposing losses on the country. I would like to know really whether Sir, first of all, I would like to Government takes the position that know from the bon. Minister the ex­ the strike is illegal. The Minister was tent of actual losses that the country on record in the newspapers to say hav suffered in imports and exports that the strike was illegal. In his in terms of loading and unloading. statement he said that the strike is Government should be in a position to illegal. If the strike is not illegal, say a^ to the extent of loss suffered in he mu'^t negotiate with the strike the normal loading and unloading leaders. If it is illegal then he must and the actual loading and unloading that is taking place in the country to­ try to convince us that it is illegal and he must justify that before the day. Rival claims have been made. House. This is not a question of who penalise the economy more. I do not agree with this type of thing. In a poor country like ours it is not necessary About the whole thing, I would that this situation should have deve­ like to know: whether the Minister loped. I would like to know as to proposes to sit with the Opposition to why the agreement had been reached negotiate with all the trade unions. by Government. Government says 1 have got a feeling from the news­ very benevolently and with a great paper reports that the whole matter amount of fanfare they have an­ is a conflict between two sections of nounced that agreement was rea­ the Jcmata Party as well as two sec­ ched in July 1977. Why is it that it tions of the Union Leaders. It would took just one year for them to set up be very unforunate if this is so. this Anomalies Committee? I am not AccusatioM have been made that the interested to know as a Member of Government has not been able to thig House as ta who was responsil)Ie function as dfie. In this particular 287 ^ NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Dock u?orker« (CA) 288

[Shri Bedabrata Barua] that We will be taking the decision by the end of November. I did not want situation, we would like to know one the federation to wait upto 30th thing. On what basis the Govern­ November but I was busy in the ment has said that there is not much meetings of the Transport and P.W.D. of a difference and the workers have ministers which I had called two said that there is nOt much of a diffe­ months ago. Therefore, the first day rence except for the immediate im­ I could be free was 24th. I also plementation. Government should wanted my officers to consult Finance, have come forward with immediate Labour and other Ministries because implementation. It should not be say, for example, there is the ques­ allo>^’ed to the Bureaucratic bungling tion of disparity in pay scales and if to stand in the way of the immediate We concede the demand as according implementation. Who is standing in to the federation it may have its re­ the way of the Government for their percussions in other public under­ implementing the decision unilaterally takings. Therefore, I said to wait for and discussing with all the unions at some time and I can decide by 24th the same time? I would like to know November and then all the federa­ whether Government would take tions were informed by telegram that step? expeditiously. They have been I am prepared to discuss with all the saying that the strike would be called federations on 24th. They did not off in four or five days. The issue is want to w ait. That is why some not so much of national lo s. (Inter- friends have said that it is a question ruptions). of inter-Union rivalries and there is quarrel between Shanti Patel and Mr. MR. SPEAKER: You have made Kulkarni. I leave the inference to be you- point. Let the Minister reply. drawn by the hon’ble Members. My position and Government’s pK)sition is very clear that we wanted to nego­ SHRI CHAND RAM: Sir, I quite tiate and we wanted certain time. concede that the loss to the economy, That time was not far off but this of the country and to the poor con­ federation in order to establish its' sumers may be colossal. It is already own superm^cy and they are saying immense. That is why I made my it in the .-tatement which has been position clear in my statement that published today that they have estab­ the hon. Members in this House can lish the supermacy. persuade those people to s^e reason as also see ^s to how the losses could Sir. in the port it is not a question be avoided. Sir, when the strike of establishing supermacy by one notice was given on 22nd October I federation. Even if one worker stops fixed the meeting between November the work on the crane then the whole where all the federations were to be port comes to standstill. Therefore, rep^-e-ented. This federation then I said that I am prepared to talk said that they want some items to be with all the four federations so that singled out out of those items which some, industrial truce could be have been referred to the Anomalies arrived at. I offered that in addition Group. I said, ‘Alright’. I have no to these demands I am prepared to sit quarrel with that if you can identify with them for three to four days and those items which may be taken up we can arrive at a settlement which by the Gk>vemment immediately.’ can last for coming five years. Re­ Some items were identified with the garding the los=? I do not want to say consent of this federation when other as I have already made the position federations were also present. With clear. the consent of all these federations certain items were identified which SHRI CHTTTA BASXT (Barasat): could be taken up out of the Anoma­ Sir I have listened to the statement lies Group. I assured this federation made by the hon’ble Minister. So far 289 StHke by Port and KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Dock workers (CA) 290

as the spirit of the statement is con­ and they were about to deploy the navy cerned he has enunciated the Govern­ in Bombay. It is not in tune with the ment’s policy of negotiated settle­ statement which he has made just ment. To that extent I have no dis­ now. But, I feel, the worke s should agreement with the Government unitedly fight for the redressal of policy. But, Sir the House should tlieir grievances. There is the neces­ know the genesis of the strike. As sity of calling for all the Federations. ha.,- been amply made clear by this Therefore, Sir, I agree with the hon. strikiji” oi'^^anisation, an agreement Minister that settlement should be on was rcached on these very major the ba^^^is of negotiation. The settle­ issiiei; as long ago as July, 1977 and ment should be arrived at after con­ all the worker:; irrespective of their sulting all the unions, not only after affiliation—whether they were in consulting one union. But e con­ INTUC, HMS, AICU or CITU—have genial atmosphere is to be created for been agitating for the speedy imple­ that kind of a peaceful negotiated mentation of the agreement reached settlement. Negotiation should be in July, 1977. My charge against this started without any condition. There Government is ihh. Why were they should be no condition that the strike sitting all these 15 months over the is to be withdrawn first, and then implementation of their agreement? only negotiation will start- Will the Sir you will be surprised to know hon. MinLster a: sure us that without that they took one year’s time and that condition he would settle the then there was one Anomalies dispute as early as possible Committee. I would also like to read out from his statement My second poiht is this: The and toll you what they have done Bargemen have also joined the strike ju'^t to create another anomaly in the in Calcutta. They are demanding history ol the trade union movement. that bargemen should be treated also Just look at his statement. He says: equally with the other categories o f 'I am prepared to talk, but the con­ the dock and port workers. dition is that the strike must be withdrawn/ This is not a democratic MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Chitta Besu, apiiioach. Whoever might have please conclude. called for the strike, whether the strike has been a complete one or a SHRI CHITTA BASU: Just listen. partial one, it is still their inherent Sir. riciht. It is the inherent right of the workers to call fo^ a strike, to join a MR. SPEAKER: I cannot go t>n strike and to continue the strike. lif^tening. You cannot make a debate. Now, lie has got the audacity to say Kindly don’t do it. that they should withdraw the strike first and then only they can come for a negotiotpd settlement. What is this? SHRI CHITTA BASU: My point Thi^ i- not a democratic attitude or is the bargemen are also on strike, exhibition of a sympathetic attitude, in the Calcutta port. My question is towards the trade union movement. I thi - What does he propose to do to do not think he can adopt that kind , cttie that? The Government appoint­ of an approach. The approach should ed a committee called the Bargemen’s bn veally to have a negotiated settle­ Committee. The Committee did ment and for that they should create everything else, it went into the pro­ a congenial atmosphere for such blems of the industry and so on, but nei^otiated settlement. But instead it did not consider the question of of having that approach, they took the wage of the bargemen. They are the first possible opportunity of de- party to the strike. May I know from the Minister whether they will also clarinjr the strike illegal. They de­ talk with them, discuss the matter c l a r e d the strike illegal at Bombay. with them and solve the problem of They called for the navy in Calcutta, 3010 L S ^ n - 291 strike by Port and NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Dock workers iCA) 292

IShri Chitta Basu] and the employees including the port authorities have honoured the the bargemen so that there can be in- settlement of June, 1977 in respect du:triai peace in the port itself? May of pay-scales, overtime allowance, I know whether the Government will lake action in this regard? house rent allowance etc. As a .suit, all the workers in Bombay have SHRI CHAND RAM: The hon. icceived arrears ranging from Rs. Member has said that we should talk 2000 I'j Rs. 20,000.” to them even if they are on illegal Thi5 was the fir.t time that such a strike. Sir^ the position is very sim­ large amount was paid to the workers ple. As soon as the strike notice is as arrears. This is not my statement; given, negotiations are started, conci­ this is the staten^.ent of one of the liatory proceedings are started.’ When constituents of the Federation^ the the consiliatory proceedings arg start­ Bombay Port Employees. And .-till ed and the union joins the strike, that the ^^on. Member says that w’e h«ve strike automatically becomes illegal. not implemented the agreement reach­ Now, does he want to say that w’e ed in July, 1977. It is only in respect should talk to them even when they of certain one or two demands—minor are on illegal strike? But^ even then, demands relating to pay-scales etc— during the pendency of the .trike that we have not been able to agree. n otice.. There also, the ^a^lt lies wath the SHRI CHITTA BASU: No strike employees, not with us but W'ith this is illegal. federation. They first wanted th*at repre entatives of the labour should SHRI CHAND RAM: This strike be associated with this anomaly group^ notice had not expired. It expired on but then they resiled. They did not the 16th. But the Bombay people want the representatives of the three went on strike on the 15th. One federations to be associated; they illegality and then another illegality wanted only their representative to was there. Even then w'hat was the be associated. How could we recon­ position of the government? We in­ cile to this position? All the federa­ vited them for a meeting on the 10th tions h*ave made the agreement and November. We invited all the federa­ we wanted to a sociate all the federa­ tions; three federations agreeable, but tions. They said, that only officers they are not agreeable to a negotiated group should be associated with the settlement. They say that they will anomoly group, no representative from hold the country to ransom and he the labour should be associated. has again reiterated that. ... (Inter­ Now, we set up this officers’ anoma­ ruptions) In hi? first statement, he ly group and it naturally took time. has said that all kinds of raw mate­ This anomaly group wag to give its rials will be stopped. He is threaten­ report by he end of December. They ing like this and should we talk to him? had to visit ten ports. I think, there are more than 100 unions in the vari­ Sir, he has also talked of the ous ports. Each of these unions had genesis of the strike. May I read to be addressed letters requiring them from the BPT Employees Union’.^ to api>ear before them. With one or statement; this is a constituent of this two federations, this anomaly group federation. They have issued a had discussions and I think, on 17th, statement: they had the discussions with the INTUC. As I said, this anomaly group “The so-called demands which were required to present their report are made a cause of t.hn strike do by December and I assured these not cover all the se<’t*'>'^s of the federationo^ that we will take a deci­ port and dock workers. It must be sion by 15th January, but they were mentioned that the Government not prepared to wait. Even then, I 293 Strike by Port and KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Dock workers (CA) 294

singled out those items which could standards. I would like to know from be settled right now. Our anxiety is the Government. . . . (Interruptions) You to settle the matter, but their anxiety are having double standards, Mrs. is to be unreason»able and to show Gore, come out with your standards their strength. This is the position. now. (hiterruptIons) Why will they not negotiate, if on merits they have So far as the question of bargemen nothing against? And she talks glibly is concerned, they do not come under of illegality of strike. the category of port labour. In fact, their demand is that they should be Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have been a declared as workers of the port. I Judge. Can you tell me of a single have knowledge that Mr. Kulkarni strike that was considered legal? went to Calcutta. These bargemen are not port employees, but he insti­ gated them to go on strike so that we MR. SPEAKER: I have stopped giv­ cannot bring the vessels from the sand- ing advice now. head. . . . (//Uerruptions). Still, I have requested the hon. Labour Minister to SHRi VASANT SATHE: Mr. Spea^ look into the grievances of these bar­ ker, as a Judge, has not found any gemen so that they can be satisfied. strike to be legal. It is so because the law is such. Mr. Ravindra Varma is SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola): there. Under the industrial law as it Sir, it is a sad commentary on the per­ stands now, can any strike ever be­ formance of the present Government come legal? So, how do you talk that the hon. Minister has made a about illegality of the strike? Talk statement which shows the attitude of about justifiability. They gave you the Government towards the working notice on 27th October. You have class and their way of ‘divide and rule* been dragging your feet since June, on a>tnong the trade unions themselves. their demands. You did not have time The hon. Minister knows full well that to sit and even concede their legiti' the most powerful Federation of dock mate demands, since June. And then and port workers is this federation— they gave notice on 27th October. with whom he is reluctant to negoti­ After that notice, why did you not, till ate—headed by Mr. Kulkarni. The 15th November, talk to them? You stateiTient now made also makes it clear come and tell us that illegality was that in principle, Government has al­ there because on 15th night they went ready agreed to the major demand. on strike. Technically it is not so. So, there is no dispute actually on the The date is 16th, because if they did merits of the demand. Now it appears it from 12 midnight, it becomes 16th to be only a prestige issue for the But why did you wait tiil 15th and Government to say that till the strike not negotiate with them? This is your is withdrawn, it will not negotiate. I attitude. would like to kjiow from the hon. Min­ ister...... {Interruptions) Let us see Mr. Chand Ram, I would request your democratic approach. You per­ you not to stand on prestige. It is suade your people now. There are 10 not democratic. You should negotiate union leaders of this very federation in and come to a settlement, when you Government and in power to-day. I concede that on merits the demands would like to know their attitude. are justified. Don’t make it a prestige What have Mr. George Fernandes, Mr. issue. It will be to the tremendous cost Madhu Limaye, Mr. Madhu Dandavate of the country, if you make it a pres­ and Mrs. Mrinal Gore to say on this? tige issue. I would ask the Minister Do they agree with this attitude of to be true to his democratic protes­ the Government in saying that unless tations and say here and now that he the strike is withdrawn, this Govern­ would not wait for the strike to be ment will not negotiate with the eiijp- withdrawn. It is their right, as you loyees? You cannot have double yourself concede. 295 Strike by Port and NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Dock workers (CA) 296

SHRi CHANd RAM : I think the MR. SPEAKER: Even good points hon. Member has brought in some ir­ need not be repeated. relevant things. SHRI CHAND RAM : In this country there are many persons who are ag­ MR. SPEAKER. In this House you grieved and who are not getting what cannot complain about irrelevancies. is their due. The producers, the gro­ wers of foodgrains, if they strike; if SHRI CHAND RAM : In view of his they say that they will have a strike, statement that it was a sad commen­ what should be done? He is not hav­ tary on the part of the government, 1 ing the interest of those people who said so. I have already pointed out are not getting one meal a day but that an agreement was arrived at in he is fighting for those persons who July. Within two months, not one or are getting Rs. 800 per month. . . . two crores, but Rs. 46 crores ----- (Interruptions)

SHRI VASANT SATHE: Have you SHRI VASANT SATHE: You do not given charity? It was their due. pay the cane growers; you cannot talk about the poor sugarcane growers.

SHRI CHAND RAM: Did we not SHRI K. MALLANNA (Chitradurga): restore the ex-gratia payment? I have I went through the statement very already mentioned that. His govern­ carefully and heard his speech also ment stopped this ex-gratia payment. very carefully. I have got my own We restored__it even when we were doubt whether the hon. Minister Mr. running into loss. We issued an ordi­ Chand Ram has got full facts with nance that bonus would be paid. He him. I read in the paper the hon. must remember all this -----{Interrupt Labour Minister Mr. Ravinder Varma lions) They stopped payment of over­ and Prof. Madhu Dandavate are involv­ time during the emergency. As a re­ ed in conciliation efforts in negotia­ sult of the agreement that will be imp­ tions. That is why I say he is not lemented the minimum pay has gone fully aware of the facts. So far the up by Rs. 85/A per month for each efTert on the economy is concerned, he worker. has stated that it has got a bad effect on the economy of the country. Then SHRI VASANT SATHE: That is why should he not come forward with not the point. sincere efforts to settle tliis isue? He has not come forward. He only says SHRi CHAND RAM: He also said that it has a bad effect on the economy. that we were standing on prestige. For He in indulging in sabotaging the us it is not a question of prestige. As strike, which is the inherent right of head of the conciliation machinery, the workers. He used lathi charge in Mr. Ravindra Verma talked to the Vishakapatnam, Marmagoa and other federation, to Mr. Kulkarni. U I places. He says the strike is politically show you the draft agreement that he motivated. Instead of going into the has given yesterday at about 9 O’ problem and solving it, he says it is a clock, it wi;l expose him that he is politically motivated strike. He says, making unreasonable demands; he says, Navy will be deployed at the ports and unless these are accepted I will not Army will be deployed at the ports. call off the strike. Is it the federation So far as the labour policy is concerned, which is standing on prestige or the the Janata Party is following anti-la- government? I want to know from bour policies. Some of the Janata the hon. Members of the House. With MPs say that the military sTlould be this government the doors of negotia­ sent to handle the situation. That tion are always open. I invited him means these peopTe are not genuine^ for a discussion around the table on and sincere in their approach to the- 24th. They were not prepared to wait. problem. 297 Comm, on Prim- KARTIKA 30, 1900 {SAKA) leges Report 298 What is the situation now? The SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: May entire working class, irrespective of 1 request that all the records and docu­ their political affinities, are united in ments concerning the report, including opposing this. In this context, t he details of it, may be made available to Ministdr should have come forward M '.nbers either in the library or some with negotiation on all the demands other place? which were agreed to. May I ask whe­ ther the Minister is sincere in his PROF. : All the de- taiis are there. efforts to end the strike, why this pre-condition was imposed on the wor­ SHRi K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: Only kers and what is the effect on the a summary is given. economy in terms of money? PROF. SAMAR GUHA: Not sum- MR. SPEAKER: The Minister has mary; all details are there. already mentioned that. He may be satisfied or may not be satisfied with MR. SPEAKER: The published re­ it. port is available. If you want anything more, I will make it available. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: AD 12.50 hrs. the papers must be made available to COMMITTEE OF PRIVILEGES all the Members.

Third Report MR. SPEAKER: Some of the papers are rather important. I want to keep PROF, SAMAR GUHA (Contai): I them as safe as possible. beg to present the Third Report of the Com.nnittee of Privileges. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: It can hi in your custody. But before SHRI SAUGATA ROY (Barrack- you fiiv a date, it must be made avail­ pore): Under rule 184 I move for a able to the Members. discussion of the report. The report has already come out in the papers Tv^ti today. There should be a fuUfledged dlscuL'sion in the House.

MU'. SPEAKER: If you invite my SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA attention to any paper, 1 am proposing (Begusarai): My respectful submission to take action against the paper. is thal the motion should not be in the SHRI SAUGATA ROY: The report name of any other member except in has come out in the papers today. 1 the name of the Chairman himself. will write to you. In case the motion says that this be MR. SPEAKER: Please submit a taken into consideration by the House cutting. This is a very important mat­ and the House has to come to certain ter. If anything like that has hap­ conclusions about it, then it would be pened, it is really very serious. Mr. proper for the Chairman of the Privi- Saugata Roy, I would like to talk to Icpcs Committee to come forward with you about some procedural matters. a motion for the consideration of the Will you please meet me sometime? Rcj)orl. It should not be in the name of an3' other Member. SHRI SAUGATA ROY: Yes, Sir. MR, SPEAKER: I cannot help it if SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN somebody else gives a notice. Anyhow, (Badagara): Under rule 315(1) I move I will look into it. Anybody can give that the report be taken into considera­ notice of a motion. tion. MR. SPEAKER: Please give in writ­ SHTi SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: ing. The Report itself says----- 299 Duties of Excise NOVEMBER 21. 1978 Matters under 300 (Textiles For example, we chose to field the team duce the Bill. without an off spinner, which has not happened in the recent yeqrs. This

♦Published in Gazette of India Extraordinary Part II, section 2, dated 21-11-78. tintroduced with the recommendation of the President. 30i Matters under KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) rule 377 302 gives room to suspicion. This has caused widespread resentment in th*? 377 ^ ?r»nr h 'Vjt southern part of our courtry and the student community ir Madras and inrmr ^ irn r^ ^ other places are very much agitated over this. A memorandu.n has Leen given to the Minister in this connec­ tion. I want to bring it to the notice of the House. ^ STF?T TK sJTmr rlfd SHRIMATI PARVATHi KRISHNAN ^ ^ qft t ?fhr Turm (Coimbatore): I want to point out . . . ?ft t 1^, oJTTtr^ eftr ’TT ssfyr ^ ^ t > MR. SPEAKER: Don’t rtcord. ^ rfl w m r ^ ^ qr ifr f^ 13 hrs. ^ qff #fsr?T ^ ^ ^ I I SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- Tr T ^ ^ NAN;**='= O’ *i^+RmT ^ 2 5^ < SHRI K. GOPAL: I therefore, re­ 3 3 SrfrTVPT ^ ^ quest the Minister of Educalion and ^ ^ ^ I 5T?rPT ^ Socia] Welfare to appoint a com*7:ittee to go into the performance of our tebm in P:ikistan and the m.)dc of selection. ^ t qz^TT ^ This is necessary because we have to give an impression that in the field of spori no regional or personal considera­ tion will be the facior. I also request ^ ^ ^ l i I* ^ him to inform the B.?ard of control for ^ 5TW ?TT^ ^ I ^ Cricket that no critu.is.n from public in the matter of selection will be tole­ 2FT snmr t I JTf sm* rated. 4 STETR JT?ft 3ft % MR. SPEAKER: The House stands «rnr^ ^ Pf ^ adjourned till 2 O’Clock. ?rnr ^ 3t^t# ^ firtr ^ ^ ^ Prft^ 13.01 hr. The Lok Sabha adjourned for Lunch T< ^TcTrr ’5T%v ^hlT I vrfiTvr p ^ irm hn^ ^ 5fY^ ’F^TT^ ^ I The Lok Sabha rc asseir^bled after

Lunch at five minutes past Fourteen (iii) N eed of L egislatio n for reform s of the Clock, in electoral s y s t e m .

[M r. Depu ty -S peaker in the Chair] SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO (Mor- mugao): Sir, under Rule 377, I rt^ise MATTERS UNDER RULE 377—contd. the following matter of urgent public (ii) R eported disturbances in B ih ar importance: ON THE QUESTION OF RESERVATION FOR BACKWARD COMMUNITIES IN There is a general consensus of G o v e r n m e n t services. opinion in the country as to the urgent need of reforms in our electoral MU. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Dr. Ramji system. However, though the Govern­ Singh. ment is committed to bring about such

♦♦•Not recorded. 3C3 Matters under NOVEMBER 21, 1978 rule 377 304 [Shri Eduardo Faleiro] Sir, the vast areas of my constituency in the Goalpara district of Assam from reforms, it has been delaying them Satrosal to Mankachar, fall between and upto now not even tentative the Indo-Bangladesh border. The decisions in this regard have been economic conditions of these p e o p le taken. Meanwhile, the Chief Election are the worst. They are fighting a lot Commissioner, at the inaugural session with their fortune for survival and of the Conference of Chief Electoral somehow they are leading their life. O/Rcers recently held at Ootacamund But due to frequent dacoities, cattle- and in other forums has suggested lifting, etc., the conditions of these some relatively easier steps that could poor people in these border areas of be taken to make elections cleaner. Assam have become miserable. Almost The proposals of the Chief Election daily dacoita from Ban^adesh enter Commissioner are non-controversial inside the Indian territory and, with and, I therefore, request the Govern­ the help of local agents, they loot the ment to introduce necessary legisla­ belongings of these border people and tion to g’ve effect to them at the lift cows, bufTaloes, etc. As a result earliest, 1 would also request the hon. of these frequent happenings, people Law Minister to make a statement in are living in terror and are spending this regard at a very early date. sleepless rights. The police and the BSF have become inactive and un­ (iv) R e p o r t e d s h o r t a g e o f fertilisers dependable. AND DIESEL IN U t TAR P r AdESH.

Wherever I proceed in these border mm 15TO fiwrtt : areas of my State, fed-up people in ^3tT7 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ rr^ iFT Wfn^ tears narrate the terrible and pathetic looting of their property by the Bangla­ ^ »nn I I ^ 1 desh miscreants. No steps appear to 4Tl>4lH ^ eft 1 0 be feasible or readily available by the Centre or the State Government to in­ t OTT siiFT^ 'nn# TK ^ -^ n n r f vestigate the cas 2s and assure safety ^ I fsR ^ r^*TRT ^ wpnr ^ and grant compensation to these alTect- 11 inr: 5TK vttx OFTFff ^ ed people. Even complaints and several ifr ar^zTT ^ 1 representations have been turned down, they have fallen on deaf ears. < v ) R e p o r t e d s u f f e r in g s f a c e d b y Some instances have also been brought PEOPLE OF CACHAR AND GOALPARA to my notice in which the BSF people DISTRICTS OF A s SAM DUE TO DACOI- are harassing some innocent farmers in TIES FROM ACROSS THE BANGLA­ the name of Bangladesh infiltrators. DESH BORDER. I have once referred to some of SHRI AHMED HUSSAIN (Dhubri): these instances on the floor of this Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir. under rule House and broucht these to the notice ::77, I want to raise the following of our previous Home Minister, but matter of urgent public importance:— nothing has been done to redress the grievances of these border people. To The people living in border areas the following public demands and have to lead their life in fear and suggestions, nothing has been done terror. Assam is a State where vast so far for these. I seek the immediate areas fall between India and Bangla­ intervention and urgent action:— desh border, particularly in the districts of Cachar and Goalpara. The people (1) The border areas between of both these districts have to suffer Satrosal and Mankachar should be a lot due to dacoities, cow-lifting, etc. fenced and all the border villages Their economic condition is becoming should be electrified and funds should worse day by day. be released on topmost priority. Water (Prevention KARTIKA 30, 190 0 (SAKA) and Control of PoU 306 305 lution) Arndt, Bill (2) An active pilot project should the Members who have spoken earlier, be launched through the Civil that it is very necessary for us to have Defence Organisation to enroll un­ a comprehensive legislation on this employed youth volunteers from whole question of environmental pollu­ each border village with a branch tion. Earlier when the Bill on Air headquarters in each Gram Pan- Pollution was referred to the Select chayat. Sufficient number of volun­ Committee, the same point was made teers should be engaged daily and that this piecemeal dealing with one incentives to the tune of minimum after the other, I do not think, is wages should be paid to them on an sufficiently imaginative nor is it going experimL^ntal basis. to really answer the purpose.

(3) Sanction immediately com­ The amendment that is being pensation to the extent lost due to brought—I will come to that later. dacoity and cattle-lifting. But what I would like to impress upon the Minister is that the concept (4) Construct an RCC Cattle Shed of pollution is itself relatively new in for each border village with accom­ this country. We have been talking modation for 30 to 40 persons guard­ about it and in general there has been ing the cattle. some knowledge or some awareness. But if you take the country as a whole, (5) A special Ceil should be the whoie concept of pollution is created in these areas under the quite new I do not think that it has charge of a Deputy Commissioner been studied in sufficient depth and and monthly reports be submitted I would say that this type of legisla­ to the Centre for perusal. tion also shows that, because, what I feel is what is immediately needed are With these words, 1 conclude my steps to regulate and avoid serious statement. pollution problems and these should be initiated without waiting for a seasoned anti-pollution approach as in 14.15 hrs. other countries.

WATER (PREVENTION AND CON­ When we raised this question of a TROL OF POLLUTION) AMEND­ comprehensive legislation, the Minister MENT BILL—Contd. gave us to understand that the matter is being examined, it is being investi­ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now we gated and so it takes time and ‘we are proceed with the further consideration aiming towards that’, etc., etc. Sir, of the Water (Prevention and Control is it not his duty to bring it? Because of Pollution) Amendment Bill. the point is to set the matter going and then set out the process of implementa­ Shri Shri Krishna Singh...... He is tion also because even the implementa­ not here. He was on his legs and was tion of the Water Pollution Act has supposed to continue his speech. so far, as far as I can gather from the various investigations that I have THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND personally carried out or from dis­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ cussions that I attended in various HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR conferences, seminars and so on, been BAKHT): Yes, Sir, he had just started. very much on a symptomatic basis MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: He is not and an absolutely scientific approach here. So I call Shrimati Parvati to it to see that all our technical Krishnan. know-how and technical resouces are adopted to the maximum to make the SHRIMATI PARVATI KRISHNAN people aware of the environmental (Coimbatore): I agree with many of pollution, I am afraid, is not yet there. 307 Water (Prevention NOVEMBER 21, 1978 and Control of PoU 308 lution) Arndt, Bill [Shrimati Parvati Krishnan] coming up. from the word ‘Go’, you should go into it to see that the Even when we visited various States necessary machinery and devices for cind studied some of the water poUu- controlling the effluents should be lion works, what did we find? The there. They have got another argu­ Chairman or the Secretary are those ment also. When I discussed with who have been on deputation from some scientists, they said that where some other service, usually from your there is discretion, it is going to be a own, that is, the Plan, either of the difficult job. Even in America they State or of the Centre, and some have are finding it difficult. What happens also made remarks that they are not is that an industry has to close down so interested in this work because the before certain things are done and it parks are limited in this work. I am takes a long time and so many people not going into that. That is the song will be out of work. What kind of an sung by many. I think you know what argument is this*? In a country like I am referring to. Therefore, they are ours which is still backward, indus­ not enthusiastic about it because the trially speaking, what kind of an argu­ personal stake is not there and the ment is it? Already in places like personal stake comes when there is Mavoor. Nagda and Sirumugai where really that dedication to this whole these rayon factories have come up, problem of environmental pollution. the Government and the industries were w^arned about it in the very beginning. Therefore, what is very It has come at a time when many of necessary is that you should make the advanced countries have shown your people also aware of it so that us what the dangers of environmental v/hen an announcement of a factorv pollution are with growing industriali­ is due to come up, the public opinion sation and so on. Therefore, you have is also built up and public opinion has a tendency sometimes of some people taken note of it. It is not only a saying that this is the trouble with question of public opinion being industrialisation. Therefore, what is ^'enerated. What happens is this. In the conclusion? No industrialisation. the entire tribal areas where people Not at all. Science has advanced for rre still very backward in terms of rnough and our scientists are also literacy, education and so on, your c:?pable enough of helping us to see employers will go and answering to that industrialisation takes place the great call by the great Shri avoiding the pitfalls of enviromental George Ferandez to build up backward pollution which some of the advanced regions, bring in their own industries countries have landed themselves in. there and you will have more problems and we should make full use of that of air pollution, water pollution and advantage and go forward on that. noise pollution there. Who will suffer? Therefore, it is not only that remedial Your tribal people will suffer who, as measures should be undertaken and it is, are living below the t>overty line. that is not what is being done now. Therefore, it is necessary that you You take, for instance, the Gwalior should have a very widespread net­ Rayons in Mavoor. For years and work of spreading the whole knowledge years the workers there were point­ that is required about the environ­ ing out the widescale pollution taking mental pollution to the public as a place with the water there. Did the whole. Take your cities. For instance, jyovemment take notice? No. Did in your cities, how much of social the various authorities take notice? education is carried out from the No. Therefore, vegetation, your flora school level onwards in order to bring and fauna, the fish in the region and as part of the conscience of the people humane beings have always been affec­ the fact that they should be extremely ted. Similarly in Nagda. Therefore, yO U hygienic in getting rid of tfielr refuse^ know where the rayon industry is their garbage and so on. Do you 309 Water (Prevention KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) and Control oi Pol­ 31 0 lution) Arndt. Bill mean to say that there is no water think all of you are in the same boat. pollution there? It is not only water You are after all a Government and pollution that is there where indus­ therefore you can have this coordi­ tries come into being but effluents are nation which is necessary between the also there. Water pollution is some­ Health and the engineering and other thing much wider. It can affect your industries. What I would appeal is cities, your towns and villages. It can that you are really neglecting the affect your hydro-electric power people. For instance, I was interested generation, your wild life, forests, to hear that in Maharashtra they have tribals and so on. included in the curriculum a subject, that is about the environmental pollu­ Therefore, what I would Like to tion. It is a beginning only. But, in appeal to the Minister is that instead how many places it has been done? ol just having this piece-meal legisla- Therefore, it is not only a question of tiori firstly you have your legislation Health Ministry but Education Ministry in order to ensure that standards also comes in. That is why I say there are kept up. You have to encourage has to be a comprehensive approach your organisation such as the NIRA in from the Government also as to the Nagpur to see and work out what are finances that are to be given for the permissible levels anywhere and aeveloping the cities free from environ­ what are the permissible levels we mental pollution, and, therefore, in have Rot in regard to air pollution etc. commenting on this Bill I would like Ycu know that the permissible ' level, to say that you need to democratise standard that is taken is from the U.S. the envisaged set-up under your Water or U.S.S.R. But. what is their climate and Air Pollution Acts. In the Water there*? What is their vegetation and Pollution, Indian Air Pollution Board what is the state of industrial advance you are going to have Chairman, there? What is the agricultural Secretary and other officials but where advance there? Why is it that with are the representatives of the volun­ your scientists who are here in the tary organisations or, for instance, Indian Institute of Science and in your where industry is concerned should­ various schools of Science that exist n’t the workers be involved. After all or various! post-graduate institutions trade-unions are there. You certain­ that exist here you could not have ly need to involve them and make your own Indian permissible stand­ them aware and allow them to play ards? Surely, this is what we should their role in ensuring that these see that they are applicable in this standards are maintained. Therefore, country. And these would be made it is very necessary that you should applicable here and nobody will be see that you bring about democratisa- allowed the escape route by saying tion of the set-up that is envisaged that we are not so much advanced and urder these boards because without our technology is backward. They that, I do not think, you can achieve cannot say that because the permissible the object of seeing that environmental standards that would be laid down pollution standards in this country are would be for the Indian conditions and kept at the lowest and the people are those conditions will be something made aware of it and become part and that could be achieved here in this pprcel of protecting our country in all country. aspects for water, noise, air or from any pollution increases in the country, So, this is an aspect that has to be ^iven a very serious attention. There­ •ft fore, I would take this opportunity of requesting the Minister to see to it. TTPRk ^ ftjrn t 1 am not worried whether it is for ^ j I A' the Health Ministry or the works VToTnnfV # ift #wtirr and Housing Ministry to do that. I W *TT ^ t w *f!T Ptrtr 311 Water (Prevention NOVEMBER 21, 1978 and Control of PoL 312 lution) Arndt. Bill

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^ 7 iTRTftzr ^jRTT f% 'Hl'l«l|i4 ^ TTTwr ?TfR:T IT'TTT IWTT t, #f^?T znkr ^Twr inq, ^mr q?r m ^ ^ ^ W ^T fmTT ^5ftoR ryfT^ H t I ^?t mr ferp- ir w ^ i mtr TTOFJTT ^ ^ I ^ TTf; hWK ^ ^ ^5TT^r ^ ^ ^ cfhrrft t, TTrftrr ^ 3IRFTT ^ 1 t' I NY+1'-d^ n ^tTRTOR: ^ wrr^ t ‘C^ TO ?f ^ ?Tp^ f^iTRT 4’ frrr ^ i k ^ ^ t \ t , <7T5R ttT T f t I ^TOTKT ^t ^tTcTOT:^3[\^ ?ftT ^-5fJW ?rnT ^ ^ ^ ^ftpT i\ w ^ ^ I ^ wr TRl" ^ Tifir^ I qr^fr tt ^r Ji I ^ ^ w f, delicate balance of nature over the f, ?iT^ t ?^T ^Tnrr ?r^t Tr^?TT, last hundred years has caused a major ^ ^T ^ P,. w ^ ^ disharmony. Although science and ^ ^FT=r -snr^^qr It f i technology have brought great advantages to mankind, we have had 4 ^ «+»o'^ I f, ffT ^ to pay a heavy price for it and it has ?rfTOTT ^ ^ I ^ ^ ^rJTTTT m now been realised increasingly that ^ro TPTifr ^ H?fr^jT ^ ?t ?m t the delicate eco-system, the fragile eco­ rTTTi ir ^ ^ ^ ^«r ^ system, which surrounds this planet Sr^^uj fk^TPT and v/hich makes life possible is gravely fj I ^TTT TTTR ^ t , ^ ^ f% endangered as a result of certain ttfrt ^ =^fe5,^«T?r wn. environmental disequilibria that have fT^ ?T ^ m trtR ^ #cfr *4t developed at all levels, whether it is 5 ^ ‘ ^ ^'t^TT I ?TFT fr^ W R ozone layer outside the atmosphere, f^iR^’ ff ^?T ^ ?7^ ?fV7 ^ whether it is air pollution, or whether 5lf^ ^ I ^ ^ ^TTOT ^ it is water pollution. The oceans fcPTT ^ T'rf m ^iftTTRt VT ^ ^ n it^ themselves, which were the very 7T ^ m !iR % ?T ^ ^ ^ source and foundation of life on this 5TpH^^^ ?t ^ I ?frrT^'t ^ m r 5frr plant, have now become junk-pools, ^W ^r ^^ f?|Tr ^cj|Aj Hi»s«0 cess-pools. for all the pollution and 3mr I cr^ ^ ^ effluents that have been produced and *rt irferiTRt s p t r t t ^rrqirr i the earth also has become polluted as a result of a number of new scientific 1974 ^ ^ ^ ?TT^ 197S if developments, particularly fertilizer ^FfTET^ wr I I ^ r^ ^r ^'r and so on 'TT^ ?TFr W> ^ n;^ ?tIt ^fSRT m ^ 1 ir fr ^ 5TrTm 1974 ^ ^ There is a common misconception qnr prr qr, ^ tt^ wrAifi ^ 11 1 at pollution is only a phenomenon ^ f ?tVt ^ ^ which is visible in the developed ^ ^raTTT ^ ^ Sf't fer^ natio.is. It is true that in the develop­ ?I^Rcrr ^'V t 1 KTT ’aJIFf I f-F ^ ^ ^ ed !iations. there is more awareness ^ ^ ’cfk ^ ^ ^FTTiT ^|[ ^ f^rr ana there may be a more dramatic 5RTI fr «r^ ?f?m- mianifedtatiou, but in a developing ^ t, ^u|4.Tr^» ?T^1r ^ I nation like ours also pollution levels 315 Water {Prevention NOVEMBER 21, 1978 and Control of PoU 315 lution) Arndt, Bill [Dr. Karan Singh] pointed out, there are part-time-Chair« men. These Boards are looked upon are extremely high. 1 have had as part-time activity of some officials. occasion to go through certain publi­ cations and one sees that in areas, in i, •(ni, rTiT parts of Bombay or in Cochin or Calcutta, the pollution levels are as It is not good enough. Pollution can high, if not higher, than the worst no longer be treated as a part-time levels in the major cities abroad. Not undertaking. It is central to the well­ only that, a point was made and I being and welfare of this nation. think that is well taken, that the Therefore, the first point I would urge nutritional standards and health is that the functioning of the Act has standards in India being generally been very unsatisfactory. 1 hope that lower than those in the developed countries, our pollution threshold, as all the loopholes and lacunae that have been found, have been covered in this it were, is also lower. In other words, Bih. those levels which may be permissible in an affluent sociv^ty where people and children from birth gel good Secondly, many Members have spo­ rutrition, those levels may be fatal and ken of the importance of an integrated d?trimental in the case of our own approach. You take the Mathura children and population. Therefore, Refinery, lor example. The elTluent if anything, the problems of pollution will go into the Jamuna, and the air are more acute in a nation like ours will go into the atmosphere. Will you then in the West and particularly so have one organization looking into when we are dealing with water pollu­ the ettluent w'hich comes Ijelow. and tion. Seventy to seventy-five percent another one for looking into the cMlu- of the morbidity in this country, of the ent going above? For that reason, diseases in this country, flow from there is an integral link between the water-borne diseases. And, therefore, Water Pollution Act and the proposed unless we can do something sub­ Air Pollution Bill which is at present stantial in the field of clean drinking before a Select Committee. And the water, we are never going to improve Mmister himself, in his statement of the health status of our people. Objects and Reasons, paragraph 4, has clearly said that there is this link, An amendment has been brought to because it is provided in that draft this Water Pollution Act 1974. There Bill, that the Boards for water pollu­ are just 3 or 4 points which I would tion will look into air pollution. An like to make and which I would important point for the considera­ request the hon. Minister to consider tion of the Minister is that our Air carefully. First, it is absolutely clear Pollution Bill is still under the con­ from what we have seen in our study sideration of the Select Committee. I of air pollution, that the functioning do not want to anticipate what our of the Water Pollution Act of 1947 has findings will be, but it is just possible been extremely unsatisfactory. This that the Committee may make cer­ is very clear. There are various tain recommendations which will in­ reasons. Partly it is because of the volve a fresh amendment of fihis Boards not having been set up in time Water Pollution Act. We are going by the State Governments and partly to report by the first week of the next because adequate financial provision session, if the House grants us the has not been made. Unless it has extension that we are going to ask for. teeth and unless financial powers are Are we going to bring in this amend­ there to ensure that its decisions are ment to send it to all the States to implemented, these Boards will not be pass a resolution, and within 3 months of any use. It may also be partly once again amend the Water Pollution bacausei, as Mrs. Parvathi Krishnan Act? Although I do not want to stand 317 Water (Prevention KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) and Control of Pol- 318 lution) Arndt. Bill in the way of these amendments^— values are made part of the national which generally seem to be desirable— consciousness, it will not be enough as these critical Acts are in the last simply to pass legislation for the pur­ stages of study, will it not be better pose. You need to include environmen­ to wait for a few months, take an in­ tal values in the educational ssytem. tegrated view and bring in other ne­ We hear a great deal about a new cessary amendments? I am aware that eoLjcational policy that this govern­ Air Pollution Bill is being based ment is going to bring before the on one Article of the Constitution, and ration shortly. One hopes that the the Water Pollution Act under a adifl'e- environmental values will receive an rent Article of the Constitution. None­ important place in the new policy. theless there is an integral link bet­ Secondly there should be a campaign ween these two Acts. Will it not be of mass public education to educate vvjser to bring in an integrated Isgis- the common people with regard to dan­ iation, may be two dillerent Bills, in gers of pollution. Pollution is not only the Budget session of Parliament? The of factories; pollution is what you and Minister should consider this. I, the common man working in all pi aces, throwing garbage in the street, There are two more points. The not being worried about cleanliness National Committee on Environmental even in our homes. That is also pol­ Planning and Coordination was set up lution. Anybody who smokes is add­ by the Government of India many ing to the pollution factor in this pla­ years ago. under Shri Pitamber Pant. net of ours. We passed a Bill when He was a very distinguished scientist. I was the Health Minister to print a Unfortunately, after his death this health warning on every cigarette. It National Committee has become vir­ seems that it has l^ecome virtually a tually defunct. Some system should dead letter. We are polluting our own be liuilt into the very planning pro­ lungs; you talk of environmental pol­ cess, at the initial stage; and plan- lution. What about this wretched should be done, keeping these lady Nicotine who is around our neck environmental values in mind. What like a guillotine? has become of this National Commit­ tee on Environm3ntal Planning and Coordination? Why should this Com­ So there should be a total approach mittee not be given some statutory to this problem, l would, therefore, underpinning rather than be treated suggest to the hon. Minister, that if he as som^ appendage of Government? ed as it is, I do not want to stand in This National Committee on Environ­ his way, but i must say that it may mental Planning and Coordination in­ be wiser to look at this in its totality volves members of the Planning Com­ and to come forward in the budget ses­ mission and the ministries concerned, sion with a more comprehensive mea­ and the State Governments. It was the sure. I hope the hon. Minister will apex body. When we went to Stock­ give due consideration to the points I holm for the World Environmental have raised. Conference, at that time we came up with this proposal and then the gov­ swm finnt : ^rsir^ ernment formed the committee. Now the committee has become defunct. My submission is that although these EJTR w «ft7: t 1 ^ Acts may be desirable, unless you have ^ ^ ^ JTTTTT i ^ 7]TjfVT a coordinating committee it will not f: ^ make any sense whatsoever. Loop­ ^ ^ ^ ^^ ^ITT— ^ holes will remain. TO ^ I ^ ^ srnjft ^ ^ 'SR’ ^ The final point that I should like to m w m r f I TK ^TTrTT make is that unless environmental 319 Water {Prevention NOVEMBER 21, 1978 and Control of PoU 32 lution) Arndt. Bill

^ ^fihTr q w I % ^ -T ^TT^- qvO^r H iw ^ t| t I ^ ^ ^ ^ fiF ^ ^ ^ ^ q n ^frT ^ irmr i ^ ^ ?fnT ^fJTT ^ T| f ^7TT?TT % ^ ^ ^ ^ eft ^n^jfr TTra ^ qcTT I ^ ?f|r TT^Tt ^ W rr I f3R ^ iFf ?fi7 5g*lT ^ ^ vft TR ?r ^ P f ^ vfV ^f^^T Jffl ^ ^ ?ft t | t '^ . ^ 4?!Tf?TTT WfPJ m ^ ^ ^ Tftw ^ ^ f% ^ ^ ?rr f'T^ ^ ^ ^'V^T ^ ^ ^ * f^ F ^ m ^ if'T «fh: ^ ^ ^ r i r ^T^' ■'T^ Cr m I ^ ? m r ^ *TR^ 'jfiRi ^ ^?T w? ^-i< ^ ?rr ^Tphrr i fV ro ^ T^ f TT ^ v i q l r ^ fsTtT rfhr ’•ifci ^ ^ T^t ^ Vll< fjRT 3r jq ^ ^ ^ 50 -sTr^n, ^ ^ ^ ^■'r^ ^ ^ y^dhfr^rniT ^ T^ ^ :j7^ ^FrrniT qr qniiT ^ ^ 1 5n[^ ipi ^ I -rq- ^ qr 5 r ^ T^r t ^nPTPT spt^ t^t ^ | i ^ ^ fe n , ‘in =rrT ^n t | $ 1 3T?rt ^ fT7ft ?tt t ^ f^mwr 5Tfcff ^ TTTt q^ ^ I ?rfe ^ T?- w ^ f , q r ^ ^ 3Tm ^FT ^ f»TT > ; r f ^ rTFTT^f ^ «TRt ^ 7 jff# ^TT# ? ^ qj?^ inr rr irrcrr cfr ?TTR 2FT fif^, m ^ ^ f% epnrt 7^ ^ ^ «ft w ?: ^rtr ^*1tf^l ^TT^ ^ qr jfR^ fsFT ^ ^ ?rf^ tr^ ^ ^ »5TrT ^ ^ I ^mrrr t?V ^ ?tt% i T ^ {fm ^ S; Pr q’n' ^rrq’ w i s?7R ^3TRT I ^ Tw 5 ? ^ % fir^r ntt- 4 ^ % rr^ ^ tfh: f^ 'f ^ ^ fsFT ^ ^ ^Trrft ^ ^ R qfucm im rw r*T 5rtt ^ ^ ^ 2FT ^ ^TPT ^ t| f , d ^ T T ^ f ^ ^ '^T T^ t, TRF ^ «fH ^T <^H*ii ^— TR" ^r im rTR^ ?r ^iPT^ ^ T^ t I ^ ’RTTT ^ rfr 5?tf3r^, 5f^ qnr ?T^ft q^ ^rr^ tfh ^ ^ ^— T ff«rm ?^nft: qrr ^ r tr 1978 H ^ st^ttut ^ q r r w r , 1974^ ^ ^'T ^ ^ w «rr— iTTT ^ 5T^[W m r szTPT w r sqr I 17 1978 qrv^ —JTPT qqn+l ^ 17^ ^ ^ ^ q r r ^ ^ ^ «ftr feqr 1 ^ qPT-TFT cT^ ^ 5nn ^tftnr, m r ^ ^ * r ^ q r i r t finrr ^ ^ qrpft 5fr=T ^ ^STFTT I m f m ^ ^ Rtit % ?n ^ ^ ^TTTTT % ^ jTT^ iFT^, rft ^ % TPft ^ F T m r ^ I q r r ^ «fTi «ftr s r ^ vijm TPTT w I w ^ ^ % TT^ TTWPi ^ 3F^ t «rr^ ^ *rrfiTO ^ itniT ? qrr ^ ^ ^ ^ *TT I Trwft ^ iTft jqfr foiT ^ ^ r r , q r r ^rt ^irt ^ fPT^ 3cr^ 5ft¥ ^ f W ^ q r t ^ 321 Water (Prevention KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) and Control of PoU 322 lution) Arndt. Bill ^ ^ ?T^ ^ I ipmft vftK ^ «nr ^ I 'TT qr v r m j n ^W4i\ i ^TTT I, ^ qr ^ ?T^ «r»ft 1 # ?rTO?Tr ^rnhlT # ^JTT ^ «TT I ^ ?T^ ^ fT ^ ft> ?T^ g ?r7 Trt-nriTT: p 1 ^ I m ^ ^ rTO ^ jqTT ^if t f^ ^rjT'TT TTfT^ qrr ^T ?rr^ Vr T^ i \ ^ qrqqT, TT^^ mwijr ^\n\, ^3-^ A m ^ ^ ^JTT ^'tJTT AI ^ ^ A f^tsTT ^ ^ ^ T5T?rr ^nf^i ^ 5RT ? I ^»p tn q’RT ^ ^ ?f^T jq ff %"qr?^9r^ ^ ^ ^ «ftiP?=T ; A ?T^ f^'Tlrn ^ f% ^r?:% ^ spt ^3^ ^sT ^ q^rii^TV 'Jim't»i0 ^TT3j^ ?fy7 ^ ?rf3IT-Trfjr?! fTT ITT^ q’STrf^T^f ^ 4»

m ^ r ^nr t fq* ^ ?T^ ?;?TI ^ cr^ ^TT w>\ ?TT^TR Vrf^ m-ffT qr^ ^f'm, 5cr>^ wy ^rrfq-^ »r^rq-=Tr ^r ?T ^«T ^ f^rr ^ ^ qj^- ^ 5gn: ^ iTRt ^rf^rr | ^tj | ?2TfT^n ^ ^9T ^ sr^^T ;r n rftf7 ^ q-f f% mr?T ^T g^Tt ^ ^frrft ^71 ? r^ 5T^ ^ ^ ^ ?rt?: ^ = ^ t T %ftx ^ ? tiT R ^ M ^ ^ ^ % ?Ti?fr^ ^ q-^ sTjcpjr ^r iftq-^ ^ g - T O TTT ^ t : ^ I 1 TTT^^JM I ^ ^r ^Tifr, f^-^rrrT5TT ^ ^ f^ren ^ w ^^tptt ^ ^ Hf^ ^ m «TT ^fffr ^rf^iT I ?rrT^ qr^ ^ | ^rferr rfrf^ -qr^ ^r ^-r ^T^jt ^ ?r% jTTT ^ ?rrT ^ | 1 ?rrT ^r^rnr- ?r>?: q r ^ ^^PTJ ^ ? tft qpift’ Rr^jrr % jttt ^ st^r I %-ri T^ fr ^p'r 5ifk ^ft ?[^T ^ ?rrqT^ ^fsnr 1 ?r»R ?n^ ^ T7 ^ ^ ^ feqr,

m ^ t ‘ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ I ^TT^TrTT fJT^ ^r m'T ^ f^^TT ?rnT^ ?T^ %(\K f^mjff #— ^r| t %(\ ^ |?rr I ^ ^FPT ^^nr^r f^cq- it^frTq ^3fm ?T^T^q ^'t— ^>?nT- ^if^rr Tjiii ^ ^ ^ftnsTrr # r^ f^%9TT ■^if^rr I 5FTT TT^ ^'rft Jffr ?rrT ?tt^ f^FT^ ^ ^ 1 q^ ^?TTTlT^9rT ^ I in r ^ n r ^ ^rPTf^r q ^ ^ r f ^ r^ ^trst# jtf ^rrq^ ^ ^ t STJ^'JT 5g*tT T^ 5 oT, ?T ^nt I ;jiT^ f^T Sr^lT % 5 T ^ m i\7^J\r^ ^ ^x f^qr ^nr, *# ^ (T^ ^ ^ H ^fTT^ ?rnT f. ^rrr ^IT^ ITT q m ^ ^ JT iTifT ^ 3TJn qi: ^arrtr I ?rrT^ qr^ ?ft ^ 3^ ^qr Trf^rsr fqr ^FT9nT ^ q>^ I ^ ^ T^ ^ ?T^7 irrft 1 o *SHRI A. ASOKARAJ (Peramba- 15 hrs. lur): Hon. Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, ^n^i OThrr^f t sft *r#fr^ while welcoming the Water (Preven­ ? ?f^r I fspT^ ^FJT ^ ^ tion and Control of Pollution) Amr mr^ ^ I, ^ fTt % ^ Tit t Ilk endment Bill, on behalf of my party^ cR^ ^ TT^frq'r ^ wr ^ I Jjft the All India Anna D.M.K., I wou)d ^sm ^tftiTT 3ft ^ ^9T ^ ^ f^rq like to express my views.

*The original speech was delivered in Tamil. 3010 LS—12 323 Water (Prevention NOVEMBER 21, 1978 and Contr<%l of PoK 32+ iution) Arndt. BiU> [Shri A. Asokaraj] the existing state of affairs. In Rishi- kesh, the industrial effluent front Water is in the State sphere of ac­ BHEL is injected into Ganga. The tivities, the Water Boards are to be effluents from the Oil Refineries in constituted by the State Governments, Bombay pollute the Arabian sea and their legality are also to be established the marine wealth is destroyed. The by the Governments of the States, livelihood of common people is thus the Chairmen of these Water Boards denied. In Tamil Nadu, the effluent are to be nominated by the State Gov­ from Seshasayee Paper Mills flowing ernments and as there are certain bot­ into Cauvery has endangered not only tlenecks in the actual working, through crop-s but also the health of the agri­ this Bill the Centre wants to remove culturists. The Government of India such bottlenecks so that water pollu­ must assist the State Government tion is minimised if not completely eli­ through research and monetary assist­ minated. As the Government of India ance to arrest this grave danger to hu­ seeks to have better implementation of man habitation. the legal provisions of the parent Act through this amending legislation, I I would like to venture that this have no hesitation in extending my Bill would have had a better impact support to this Bill. if the Government had first nationalis­ ed all the perennial rivers in the coun­ It is relevant to refer to certain try and then introduced this Bill. basic issues here. Sir, agriculture is When we are not able to amicably set­ the backbone of our people and water tle river-water disputes, how are we is life-breath of agriculture. This going to come to an agreement life-breath of water is being denied by about the hazards of pollution of river one State to the other even when waters in different parts of the coun­ there is surplus water available in try. I would suggest that the Govern­ that State from where such a river ment of India should ponder over the starts. I am referring to Cauvery question of nationalisation of peren­ waters. The hon. Minister is aware nial rivers in the country in the inter­ of so many inter-State river water dis­ est of better utilisation of available putes. If the Central Government is water wealth. not able to resolve such inter-State river water disputes, I wonder how Dr. Karan Singh pointed out the ill- this Central legislation is going to help effect of smoking and how it pollutes in the matter of curbing growing the atmosphere. Air pollution leads water pollution. to chronic diseases like T.B., Asthma, Bronchitis, low-bread pressure and Janata Government swears by rural even diseases like cholera, malaria etc. upliftment and its commitment to ru­ In this background, environmental ral self-sufficiency. It is common health assumes serious significance. knowledge that in more than 80 per OUr rivers should be saved from the cent of the rural area there is no pure mixing of chemical substances. Our drinking water available for the vil­ hon. Minister would have witnessed, lagers. Even the available water in while travelling in the train or in the rural areas is polluted gravely because bus, that on the banks of rivers and of lack of other civic amenities. The also’ on the banks of open drains many picture is no different in metropolitan people live in their hutments. We are and urban centres. In Banaras, the talking about insanitation in urban Ganga is swelled by all the drainage cetres. We have not done anything to water and in great religious fervour remove insanitation in rural areas* people from all over the country dip where people are living in filth and themselves in drainage water. I am mire. W e should bear in mind that not rid’^uling but I am only sayiniT the rural people are also our voters; 325 W«tcr (Prevention KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) and Control of Pol- 326 lution) Arndt, Bill and we should do something for their ^ 11 mlvft w» ffTTT ^ *nTT ^ hygienic living. ^ ITFRT fft ^ ;H7^ |

Out of 460 districts only 130 dis­ tricts have pure drinking water faci­ ^ftzR( (vfrr) ^ s f t f lity and that too only partially. Simi­ ^ 31TRT larly, only in 80 districts there is un­ V frlTFT TT XfWK | I ^TPT pR ft derground drainage system and here § ITR vttT. ^ 8^ fft also all the 80 districts have not been ?n»ii vftT ^ I covered in full. All of us must have ^ ^ ^ I ^ firw seen how the villagers take water for drinking purposes from the same pond flfTRTT ^TTWT | ^ ^ ^ l?ftT | in which their cattle is also washed. During rainy season our entire coun­ try becomes a cess-pool of slush and ^ ^ vtfw mire in which the people along with ^ RmFT snmr ^ ^ w r ferr their cattle wallow. Even after 30 ^ vfi Hih^h ^ d«f years of independence we have not ^ T T ^ ^ ^TTTTT I I succeeded in giving pure drinking water to the people of the country. ^ eft 3ft Even today the people for a pot of ^ ^ 'd«ai ^ ^ 'TRT ^ ^fTrTT water walk miles and miles. We call ^ ^ I JTI!’ N»iHn ourselves the servants of the people |tt ^ ^ I ^ ^ ^ ^ If we cannot provide them with the snfTn ^ ^ I ^ ^ ^ basic amenity like pure drinking water, when we go to them next for iF^nr ^FTT I ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ VTTT f%?Rr ^ ^ their votes, they will confront us with Tpft vfTT-WTR' ^ ^ the question as to what we have done pirn ^ ar^ f, ^ for them.

Before I conclude, I would say that pollution is the source of all diseases p5RT# ^ ’sftr f, in the country. It is not that we ^t^ ^ ^ ^ R l should legislate just for the heck of ‘ WT ^ ^€t ^ having a law. The law should be im­ fernr tk ^trt 'rt^TT i ^ft plemented by the States and whatever ifk ^ feqrt^ t, Tf^, ^ funds are required for implmnting ^ ^ cTT^ ^ aiillH TTlTRT ^ >?zrTST the legal provisions the Central Gov­ ^ ?fh: ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^t^ ^ ^ ^ TO ernment should be munificent and iTR ^rrf^‘ 1 7?R frsr ^ magnanimous in extending such fin­ ■^H ^5 ^ CUR anZT ift cTT?) 5TT^^ t • wft wrfr ^ ^ «FT ift ’nn % fftr | i 1974 ^ AJZX qTc^?T ^ URT, f4^ ?ft ^ ^RT, cr^ jtv IHTH t ^ ^ |ft?TT ^ ^ i r W ^ I tr^ «n«r f TOU ^ I, ^ «ftr RIR fTO I ^ ^ ^ i?IT, If ^ VWK ^ tSlHH 327 Water (Prevention NOVEMBER 21, 1978 and Control of PoU 328 lution) Arndt. Bill ^ ^ firaff # iT|[ ^ 5T!ft ftr f9 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ «frr ^ ^ ^ ^ VRWRf ^ Pry

fe?^ n ^ m fir^ ^ ^r^hi ?htt W ^ ^TrT ^ Ti^ JRT IV «nft % 5^rlM # 80, 8 5 % n ^ >dti^ ^ 500 f«?^iri ^rft ^fr ^TT ^ ffpfW ws't ^ T^ %r^ ^ IT ^ ^ I ^TPT-»Tm ^ ^ ^ TR ^ qnt ^ ^TT^ ^ |?n ^ 1 fVF^, «rtr ^TR WK ^ ^^Trft t • srfenff H TRt ^TR ift ^ aT ^ *1^ ^«T ^r ^ ^ FTtT-^mrr ^ iT^ ^ ^STRfT t I ^ ^ y?^ ^ fVVT IPTT ^ ^ O^-'QHT ^ PiO «f>ff ^TRT ?flT 't^l[ ^ qrW mnl-fO ^m f ^ iTgFt«T-qp3rprT ^TTmff ^ ^ ^ ^ITT ^ 5 0 W in ^ fr*n ^TTT ^ I ^TTTT t I qTR ?T? 3nfr ffr ^r<»«i 50 ^ ^ ^nr ?T1^ ^ ; f^r^ft Tp^rpT ^ v^yi) »T^ T^ H^*«n ^ ^ vftin ^ ^ ^ - a irt ^ ^ 3 r m t, p3R fTT r?T ^ J j f ^ ^^rr ^ ^ ^ I 1 nr iriF7?=T ^ ^ ^ t^f in^ Av? Tfft ^ ^ fTT I ^ ^ ^4N, ^rrffT ^ ^ TirfV M'^l^'li fw^TrT ^TiTT ^ rH'r>'ini ^ I wTjfw^i ^r f m ? fft I ^ rrmm ^ i n ^ ^T^r ^ 1^ 5 • ^ ^ # NW ^ ^ 3TTOf^ ^ wr^ ^7%r *R? ip^rnft, ’T^v-'rftnft frtr A^ftrFPT ^^*tt»t ?TTfaF ^rraRVT TPT^ ^ fcrw F ft # ^ ro n r q j ^ t I # iKiT^H ^ Tm ^ ^snr^ i ^ ^ ^ fTT^T ^5RT 'TtT ^ , rlTfir |n»it iRTift ^ ^tWt’ fv 9T ^ 5ftn If W^ t A VlT^Pfl ^fw»^ t • ^ *frv^ ^ - ^T r*!4.'i §TT ^7T^ qT^ft ^Vt ^ ^ zfijii ^ ®?rrm jfftm % qpft ^ St^ ^T?:^ % %TT ^i|rf| n r q r it *FT r^WT ?m ittS f I ^ ^ feff ^ «nr ^ ^ I Vtf ^ ^ f% ^ ^ ^THF ^ ^ VtorTiif ^ IfFTT ^7^ I fr Hm*flH W^SFT A fk^ ^ ^ f^PRT ^Tw ^ irfk # ^ t, TO 'Tfsr^ 5Tft ^ ^ VHt fj f v ^ fTT *Fti ^ ^ g f MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have already extended it by 45 minutes. increase and it will go on increasing. That is what I am trying to tell you. So we will have to plan right now and So new speakers cannot be taken. think of the finances right now and, also, to which Ministry the handling of the situation should be entrusted PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR should be thought of. (Gandhinagar): Sir, the House has accepted the twin challenge of en­ While on this aspect, i would say vironmental pollution and of quality that water and air pollution is the of life. That is why we have come main cause of epidemics. A man gets forward with this legislation and are a disease either through contact, discussing the matter I am glad the through air. A man can avoid con- problems of health hazards and dis­ through hair. A man can avoid con­ equilibrium of all sorts have been tact—that is, body contact—and he well appreciated and we are now can avoid food also. For instance, trying to tackle them effectively and if a doctor tells a diabetes patient concretely in terms of legislative mea­ that sugar should not be taken, sures and also in terms of educational he will stop taking sugar. But advancement and creating public how can he stop drinking opinion. All that is granted, but I water and inhaling air? So, it is the must be quite frank. I also felt, while responsibility of the Government to listening to some of the speeches, that see that he is provided and as much it would have been better if enlightened clean air as possible and as much public opinion and education had also clean water as possible. So, there been generated in the House itself should be a lot of financing in this so that We would have been better off - regard because this is the main health and we would have been able to un­ problem and if this is controlled, derstand the problems from a slightly most of the diseases—I would say, more informed angle. I am not say­ about 60 per cent to 70 per cent of ing, however, that whatever was said the diseases— will be brought under was not well worth saying. The pro­ control. They may not be completely blem is really global and the challenge eliminated, but they will be brought is also global. We all know how the under control and thus expenditure U.N. Conference at Stockholm tackled will also be brought under control. the issue in June, 1978, and we also ' So, this should be entrusted to the know how it had actually passed 109 Ministry of Health. This enactmert recommendations in regard to en­ and these concrete measures on a large vironmental problems and the ‘Action scale should be envisaged by the Cen­ Plan’ that followed which was com­ tral Government itself instead of plemented by a ‘Declaration on Human leaving this task to the State Govern­ Environment’ setting down 26 prin- , ments and doing only advisory work. ciples etc. etc. All this is known. But my point is, why should this Gov­ With these wDrds I support the Bill ernment not consider this matter more and I would request the Minister to seriously and more earnestly and, as consider some of the suggestions has been pointed out by Shrimati made by me. Parvati Krishnan and Dr. Karan Singh, from a totality point of view and not* MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Prof. Mavalankar. in terms of compartments? I am say­ ing with agony in my heart that I get We have already spent 45 minutes an impression that, instead of looking more than the allotted time. earnestly at the basic problems facing this country, the Janata Government’s AN HON. MEMBER: The time may in fighting, their problems of leader­ be extended. ship, of disunity and all the rest of it 333 Water (Prevention KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) and Control of Pol- 334 lution) Arndt. Bill are making them go away from the Government, but we all in Parliament challenging basic problems which must see to it that we do not put into should be dealt with in time. I am the legislative measures things which not sure whether the Janata Govern­ can be left to administrative rules and ment is looking at the problem from regulations so that we may only go the point of view of proper develop­ by the major things. Otherwise, if ment and intensification of the scien­ you put in too many details, you will tific outlook and scientific action ne­ have to come every time before Par­ cessary for tackling these problems. liament with an amendment as he has In the earlier period of India, begin­ done in this case. ning from Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, a Now, Sir, I do not approve at all of certain scientific temper and a certain this business of part-time. Is this a outlook of modernity had grown in matter of part-time activity? Why this country, and it seems to me that are you having a part-time Chairman We are now going backward from on Water Pollution Control Board? those attitudes. That is probably be­ You should really be very strong on cause they are not free from the other this point. This is not a part-time kind of troubles—Party troubles—and affair; this a whole-time they are leaving the matter to bureau­ crats. The time has come when I What is more important to remem­ should say this frankly and fully in ber is that this problem of pollution, this House. How long will you tole­ water-pollution in particular, is not rate this kind of non-performance of restricted only to city areas, but it the Government? We want perfor­ affects the rural areas also; becauso mance of the Government, and per­ • Of the twin-problem of urbanisation formance of the Government is want­ and industrialisation, you have got ing. I must come out and say this garbage, industrial waste and refuse; plainly: please forget and damn all these things create the problem of your differences and look at the pro­ water-pollutron, and these waters ere-* blems of the country and face them; ate further water-pollution, the rain develop the scientific attitude and water brings those bad waters together, scientific action; a certain scientific- and people drink all this water in the oriented action-programme is needed. cities and in the towns and villages—• I will tell you why. Please look at from rivers, nullahs and so on. this Amendment. I have no time to Therefore, this is a very serious mat« go into details. The Minister has ter requiring full-time attention, re­ brought forward this Amendment quiring a lot of resources, requiring a Bill. He is saying that whatever un­ scientific attitude, requiring problem* workable was put in the previous Bill of research. As Mrs. Parvathi Krish- is being removed. So far so good. nan has pointed out, State like Maha­ But that shows incidentally an impor­ rashtra have gone ahead in this. Why tant point that we must not legislate not go in that direction more quickly in a manner in which we put the and have certain institutional patterns details of administrative matters into which will give us proper research on the law itself, because if we put in these matters? You must come out of too many details in the law, the de- this bureaucdtic framework, and you tails become obsolete and out-of-date must leave it to scientists and to the and you have to amend the law itself. imaginative policies of the Govern­ Take, for example, this provision of ment—educating the people, cultivation ‘six months*. Should you have put in of public opinion, etc. A certain this here? He might say that it was amount of urgency is required—in not he who was responsible for this; terms of the time factor. And if you it was the previous Government which do not do it, then the problem of was responsible for this. What I ja y water pollution will be very difficult to ife this. From now onwards, not only .tackle. 335 Water (Prevention NOVEMBER 21, 1978 and Control of Pol- 33& lution) Arndt, Bill

[Prof. P. G. Mavalankar] which are putting into serious jeopar­ dy all values of mankind. 1 am thank, As Dr. Karan Singh pointed out, the ful to the members for having sup­ matter concerns what he beautifully ported the Bill which has been present­ called ‘environmental values’. I like ed. that particular phrase—‘environmental values*. It is not merely a question of There are two points which are pollution of atmosphere. Removing pol­ rather quite important. One is about lution is only the negative aspect. an integrated approach and a compre­ Having an established order of values hensive Bill. I think it has been my in terms of quality of life, cleanliness, misfortune that my expression on this certain minimum basic norms and subject of an integrated approach must standards of life and of good health, a have been very much wanting. It was certain assurance of maintenance of on a number of occasions that the gov­ equilibrium, is necessary. For ihat, I ernment has agreed with the philoso­ want to conclude by saying, apart from phy of an integrated approach where­ education and public opinion which ver the question of pollution is con­ have been rightly stressed by Mrs. cerned. But the hon. Members seem Parvathi Krishnan first and later by to have ignored the fact that there are Dr. Karan Singh, what is wanted is constitutional constraints on account of political will and municipal will; poli­ which we cannot do it. It was an Act tical will at the national level, at the of the previous Government enacted in Parliamentary level, at the state 1974 which we have got in this case. level; and municipal w’ill at the local That Act was enacted on behalf of level, at the level of Municipa­ the State Governments under Art 252 lities, Corporations, Talukas, Pancha- of the Constitution. The Air Pollution yats, etc. and some co-ordination bet­ Bill which is, of course, before a Joint Committee of Parliament, has been ween the two. If that is there, then presented on the basis of what trans­ I am quite sure that the Minister will pired in the international conference of be the first man to agree that not a the United Nations held in 1972 at piecemeal but an integrated, well- Stockholm and this Bill was presented thought out, a comprehensive and ima­ directly by the Central Government ginative thing in time is what is re­ under Art. 253. Now, it is not possible quired. And I hope he will come for­ for us to integrate these two pieces of ward with that legislation as early as legislation because they have been possible. derived from entirely separate situ­ ations. But we have conceded the THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND point that there should be an integrat­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- ed and comprehensive approach to the HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR question of pollution. Therefore, We BAKHT) : I am extremely thankful are making an attempt to see that one to the hon. Members for liaving taken single agency may be given the autho­ such a keen interest in the subject of rity derived from different and sepa­ control and prevention of air pollution rate law so that it might itself deal and water pollution. I ^m also grate­ with the question of pollution. That is ful to them for having re-emphasized one way of making an integrated ap­ all the facts of which, of course, I had proach. the pleasure of hearing earlier also on tWo occasions, once when the Cess Bill I will beg you leave to repeat what was presented and at the other time I have said, in Hindustani also merely when the Air Pollution Bill was pre­ for the sake of repeating and re-em­ sented. phasizing the point.

I fully appreciate and share the * ?mT, ftr anxiety of the hon. Members that there t w wjnsff ^ n r flbould be quick and effective steps WT silP' ^ % WR- lidopted to check all iorti o f pollutfam a57 Water (Prevention KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) and Control o/ Pol- 33«: ^ lution) Arndt. Bill cided by the Works and Housing Min- ITT ’TFT^ H l^3jV5r .. istry also to develop smaller towns. i We shall develop smaller towns with 1974 TT f[»R^ qrfft ^ ^ I ^ ^ total infrastructure to be provided ^ ^ ^ 'TT which includes the establishment of in­ iR T ^ ^ ^TT?n ^ «flT dustries as well for the sake of provid­ 2 5 2 VJ^ ^ ing employment opportunities. We have qiT «ftr 'fl^qVR ^ ^ ^ also to provide countermagnets, the gft ^ t, ^ magnets, which attract people to big­ qid lftrgT 2 5 3 % I I ^ ger cities. These countermagnets have ?r^ ^ 5TT % fapm ^ I ^ to be provided for in smaller towns. u.r^miHd T?: q;o ^ ^ These will not solve nhe problem of ^ qrf^t^ f^^rr "qi I ^ pollution. It will certainy diffuse it ^ ^ ^ qi: ^ 11 to some extent. That is one part. Then,, my hon. friend from Tamilnadu, while, speaking about drinking water supply, was mentioning some difficulty about 'ftR t I jfiT 'tt: I the drinking water supplying in a f5TTOl wrr^ f,^^t ^ ^ t \ ^ ; number of villages in the country. For the sake of information, very briefly. I ^ ^ I ^ ^ JT5rafT I H5f ^T»mT I # ^TT<^ would mention something. My hon. friend, Prof. Mavalankar thought that this Government is lethargic about this The second thing that I wanted to say problem confronted with by this Gov­ was this. Although the debates have ernment. He also made very unfav­ been very fruitful and beneficial—I ourable comparisons with the earlier must say that in a number of places, Government. (Interruptions) I agree there had been some disgressions with that they may be very sincere but still which my Ministry is not concerned his remarks, his observation.^, may not at all. There were a couple of disgres­ be right at all though I expect them to sions which, of course, did concern be sincere. That is why I am saying the department dealing with Air, water that this Government’s functioning has pollution, at all. If they concerned to not deteriorated. I am going to prove me, I would definitely like to enlighten that I am glad to tell the House that this House on those subjects. on the question of allocation of funds for drinking water, i^ 1975-76 the al­ It would be futile for me to dilute location was only Rs. 60 crores; in on points which, in fact, may not 1976-77 the allocation was Rs. 61.5 directly be concerned with my minis­ crores but during 1977-78 the same for try. You may of course say for argu­ drinking water supply, for the first ment’s sake that after all, Government time, amounted to Rs. 118 crores. And is one. After all, all of us are the the allocation for 1978-79 is Rs. 166 wings of the samething. This a sub­ crores. This itself shows the direction ject which we are dealing in its spe­ and the functioning of the present cific aspect. Therefore, it is unwise to Government. We are not taking light­ go about digressing the subjects of ly the question of providing pure other ministries. drinking water supply in such villages which are called problem villages. I know there has been digression. I am The second factor which one of the sorry I have to mention that because hon. Members suggested was that there one of the Members also made a men­ should be a dispersal of industries. tion about the drinking water supply. They also mentioned that the Indus­ tries Minister had insisted that the Now, about the functions of the establishment of industries diould now Boards, somebody said that they were be ta3cen to the smaller towns. Practi­ unsati3factory. Some integrated ap^ cally, on the same line, it has been de. proach is necessary. I have already 339 ^ «t«r (Prevention NOVEMBER 21, 1978 and Control of PoL 340 lution) Arndt. Bill •tShriSikandBrBtfkhfl about National Committee for En­ vironmental Planning of which Dr. said that some amendments have to be Pitamber Plant was the Chairman. It undertaken ect; «tc. About the part- is outside the orbit of the functions of time Chairman, I have got to say my department. (Interruptions) something. There are small States also states have to finance their State Then, Sir, Shri M. Ram Gopal Reddy Boards. Those smaller states like said that the sacred water of our J4anipur represented that they will rivers is also being polluted by put­ not be able to afford this expenditure ting dead bodies into them. He said o n a full-time Chairman. That is wHy that this short of religious practice ■basically the part-time Chairman con­ should be stopped. cept has come in for very small States. There has to be a practical approach to things. We cannot be just emotional and sentimental as we are confronted - * ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ with facts as they are and that is why ^ ^ I Irfi’ part-time Chairman concept has been brought in. t m m ^ ^ t I TO ^

PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: Let 3rnr ^ 1 there be half-time Chairman but he should devote his full attention. ^ ^ 3TRT t t # SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: 1 con­ ^ ^ t I ^ tif 5m I ^ cede this point that uptil now the ap­ ^ fw: ^ n mm proach to the question of pollution ^TTTT 1 ^ ^ I has been very lethargic. The Bill for water pollution control was presented ^ f w ^ I ^ ^ before the Parliament in 1969 and it ’arr^ ^ fft ^ ^ I 4 qr was passed in 1974. There were no financial provisions made. For the q r fiT f. I ^ Jirst time during the last year we made the provision to enable the State t I VTWt ITFTrT | | Boards to function ^ind not remain iRT ^ 4 VR<3Ff m lethargic for want of funds. Does it ^ fttqruft ^ not show the importance that this gov­ ernment attaches and wants these qr ^ q r j v - boards get going. ^ v m x I, ft 3ITKT wrpT finn ^ I «rnr ^ ^ 3nn^ ^ Sir, last time when this House deci­ ^ I ^ 1969 5? ?ftwT fvfirw ded that the Air Pollution Bill be refer­ ^ Wl ?TT?TT W V t ^ 1974 ^ red to the Joint Select Committee I qrw »R ^ xftK i did express my hesitation that on the ^ ^ PfnrfV % one hand'the hon*ble members want ^ ftp ^ ifrt ^ tifj* I, anti-pollution activity to be under­ taken immediately and on the other & ETT^TT I ^ tft qe[^ i| (t hand they thought it fit to refer the ^ I fro# HFT ^ # f ? R T -Bill to a Joint Committee. No doubt, f¥ ^TT ^ I I the exercise is going to be very fruit­ # mTm i Pf ♦r- ful as the hon’ble Members are taking qrrfHTOO ^ ^ ^ vtfro Iceen interest but I was pointing out Jfrom the point of view of speed. So. :this shows the seriousness with which rfto 4to rffo HTW^VT : ^ f^ifr this government is dealing with this

TO? : t Clauses 2 to 22 were added to the BilL ^ ^ ^ ^ ir ^HTF^rr j I MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now the question is:

JfTT I “That Clause 1, the Enacting For­ mula, the Preamble and the Title ’sft' Rrir-fT W8.T : ^ stand part of the Bill.’’ ^ «n, fl'JR ^ TT The motion was adopted. ^ ?rnT ^r*fT!?fr ^ ^ i I iTTF JT^ t Clause 1, the Enacting Formula,, the Preamble and the Title were added to the Bill. ^rT I ^nr^ TCf 5rrq^ ^ ^^nrfr $ t ^ t, ^ ^ i THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND toT ^ ^ 3?nrff ^ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR I 31 i ^ t \ '^ ^ y = \ ?rr7^ BA K H T): Sir, I beg to move: irt ^ ^ t I ^ ^ “That the Bill be passed.” ^ ^ ^ I ^T5(^ f I ^ q-T 5Tin: MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; Motion moved: qtift ftr ^ JTii-f^sp 5Tm I ^rq"^ “That the Bill be passed.” ^ ^ 3f7f;n I Pf — Now, Mr. Shrikrishna Singh will speak. He gaveTiis name but he wai ^ ^iTPTT-It.^T^^ fT f^?T ? t not present then. Just five minutes only, please.

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER. Now, the f® ^ ^ f ^fsfTTT <3uestion is: fk^ftlRT % fTT 3ft ^RVT I ^ w t ^ ?T^ ^ ?r» “That the Bill to amend the Water t I ^ 3ft «ft ?T»T 5^ ?HRTT ^ ^ I I 343 Water (Prevention NOVEMBER 21, 1978 and Control of PoU 344. lution) Arndt, Bill m im ^ ^ ^Tf vnJ ^ ^niT^ t fv ^ JTfWlr * qT^ ^ ; t^ f r r i f t i t, ^ ^ f ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ 5ft ^ ffT ^IW ft f^ w ftRft q ERrm t ft? 5TT^ % i T f v ^ t I ^ ^ I f ^ ^ % I fin?«IT V JT^ I fc ITT^ ^ IjLSS hrs. ^ ^ ftr^TT ^ T ? , JT5T ^ q i ^ [SHRI N. K. SHEJWALKAR in the ^ I m^\< ^ V q i ^ ^ gq-^ f tqf chaiT] ^ T^ I iftr ^3W% # S^Tf^- iTffift THf JTT 5frw ^ t ^ ^ ^ ^ IPTRT ^ ITTrTT THT ^ ^ qi^, ^ # qi?ft, ^ gqar^ i ^ ^ fTTq^ «ZTT^ ^ ? fJTT 1%^ Jtr ^ ^ mRT ffr, ^ t ^ ttttt ?rk ^rfoft ^ f I ftpT ^ ? ^v^\i f ^ ^ ^ q r q ^ f v f WJ r q ^ ^ ifTT^ | t, ^TTW ^ fv ifr ^ t i^ r ^ i r i ^ ^?T I I f^tZT m ^ jT ^ ^rftT9T 1 ^ ^ ^ ^?irTTT'*^^¥Tt I cnr ^ I 2TF ^ *Tf^^ ^ ?TRi ^7^ ^ f^T^T pT'^ll ^ 5t^ ^ t I ^ ^ *nTT ^ I ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ \ i q j T W v h : ^1^1 ^ %ftX 5^ ^THW % I ^ITTTT t ftr ^ ^ ^'t- i ^ t I ir^ ^rm irft# 1 ^ ^ ^ o t# ^ f I ^ m^i*fT-<)?n^ ^ ^ ^ ^iTT^T^ I ^ ^TTVR ^ SI??TqK??r ^ ^ isrtr ^ f^rf^ rffeft ^ ¥T?TT ^TTtTT ^ ’cfh f w ^ r«H fTT ^ WTF I ^ 8Ft^ fm ft wj^rnrHMH ^^^Tfdqf, ^TrrntvFir xtn ^'rft- ’i T ^ ^ m ^TT I ^ ^ w>il« m ^ fern ^ I T^ ^ 5TT ^ ^ ^ 5TR ^rr?TT I iTFrT fTTrrrft wi mrj T f^ 16 hrs. ^ ^TTcH I I VSRTTT ^ HTT DR. SAROJINI MAPIISHI (Dhar- TO ^ ^TRT ^ niR ^ ^ ^ — «TT^ war North) : Mr. Chairman^ Sir, +he ? «TPT 5Tr I o[^ t^ , ^NqgiH hon. Minister has pleaded his inability iftr ftr ft^nxTn on account of certain technical diffi­ ^ VTRTH ^ «ftrQ/lfHqH 5177^ ^ culties that he could not bring for­ ¥T?T ftTn JPTT fllr ^3T»T^ ^HT ^ ^ I 4 ward a comprehensive Bill, but an ^rrsr ^ »tpt ?rr ^ ^ integrated approach is sought; that ? I %m^ frwrr^'t 'rf*^ «nrr- also, he said, can be achieved only with sftPT iffrf TH%^ 5T^ t • ^ great difficulty, because coordination «r.*-^'f) ^ f^ Z < I ^ amongst all the ministries for an m\ ^ ^mtiTTrft ft I ft’ OT xftr afi^nn integrated approach toward this ^ Mm «fV fwzfr^y W1 HTT g’JIT, problem is very very necessary. *inTt ^frr qpft T, nT if rrm ^ | i All said and done, we have seen *nTT ^rilS fro^ what the hazards of water pollution # ftpT ffWr # ^(TZT qr^TFT ^ are in the western countries. They wi I, have reached a stage where, of course, ITT ^ WT they have started thinking in terms o f ^ feTT, fft Wff 1 ^ VT ^?TT effective pollution control, but before ftf 1^ >(»T1T ’PTT ^ I ®rf^V We reach that stage, we can resort to fft qrwiPT ^ 3f® certain pr^us^tipnary and preventivo *np t im ^ ^ measurs. But, in our country, this 345 Water (Prevention KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) and Control of Pol- 346 lution) Arndt. Bill concept of water pollution is no longer the body or are in-built-in the pilot ma­ prevalent; so also is the concept of chines when these are being installed. air pollution. People think that by In the second category, where the in- throwing away the garbage and sew­ dustris are in the process of being age in the river, they have resorted to established, we must take some action a proper disposal of these things. This immediately to see that such measures has become the way of life in our are in-built into the machinery. It country. Under these circumstances, becomes difficult for us to tell the we should try to see that this way of private sector people to see that these life is changed and it becomes a way things should be resorted to. They of life for them to think that throw­ point out to the public sector indus­ ing these things in the river water or tries and say that they are not doing resources of water is the real pollu­ so. I know, in the case of Goa, the tion. It, of course, would require a fertilizer people point out to the long time and efforts have got to be public sector and say: If you cannot made in this direction. do these things in respect of public sector industries, why do you advise The hon. Minister was good enough us? Therefore, it is better that all the to say that a huge amount has been public sector industries do take all allocated for being spent on control these things into consideration and see of water pollution. Allocation of that anti-pollution measures are in­ amount is one thing and its utilizu- built in the machinery that they have. tion is another thing. In many cases, I find that although allocation is there, There is another point. Is it left to yet the utilization part of it is very discouraging. I would like to know, the sweet will of the State Govern­ how much of it has been utilised and ments to appoint the Water Pollution how much of it is going to be utilized. Control Boards or the Air Polluticn Control Boards? If it is left to their We have to make a beginning some­ sweet will, they may or may not ap­ where. point. One case was brought here, In our country, the pollution of where they appointed after a time- water on a small scale is continuouo^.y lapse. That is going to be regularized. going on If the drinking water sup­ Such a thing need not take place. You ply is from a pond or a well, or a rivu­ must make it compulsory that the * let, people never care as to what the State Governinents should make it a pollution is and how it can be preven­ point to see that in the larger Inte­ ted. Now, We are discussing all rests of the State and the country, these things in the context of a higher these Boards are set up, and that the and large scale water pollution^ where Boards function regularly. Many a it is caused on account of higher in­ time I find that Boards are constitut­ dustrialisation. The industries can be ed of persons who are not competent categorised like this; the industries enough; and the State Government that are there, the industries that are patronizes people by putting them on in the process of being established and the Boards. It should be avoided. The the industries that are going to be Minister should look into these things there in future. The industries that specifically. are there even in the public sector do not have the machinery in-built for In page 5, line 3, it is provided that pollution control. Even there, the one sample should be collected. I water is polluted and as a result, a would request the Minister to see that number of epidemic diseases spread in the rules at least, it should be made about and fish die or the human a point to provide that instead of orie beings die. Of course, we do pot pay sample, 3 samples should be c o n n ­ much attention to sfee tliat necessary ed. of which one should be with thfe anti-pollution measures are put into Government, 1 with the pilot project 347 Water {Prevention NOVEMBER 21, 1978 and Control of PoU 34 s lution) Arndt. Bill [Dr. Sarojini Mahishi] able to bring all the States in uniform line. Bihar has already done it. and the third given to the laboratory. Otherwise the project people may say There was one question put, about that they have got it analyzed already, providing drinking water supply ta and that the water analysis has given the problem villages. It is not being a very favourable report; so they need done through surface wells. The not resort to all this type of releasing primary idea of providing this water the effluents deep into the sea etc. is that they get potable water which So, I hope that in the larger interests is free of all diseases. Otherwise there of maintaining the supply of pure was no point in providing drinking water to the extent possible, these water. So, it is not surface wells. things should be looked into very They are being provided v/rter carefully. I hope the Minister* will through tube wells. It partly ans­ pay attention to these things. If the wered the questioin. integrated approach is not possible im­ mediately, he would make efforts It appears that the hon. Dr. Mahishi have it. I am very happy that the got it wrong, about the question of House has been able to given an in­ allocations. When I was comparing tegrated approach—from the point of figures, it related to the provision af view ot health, as also o{ works and drinking water supply to the villages; housing. Thank you. and it was not related to the func­ tions of prevention and control of THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND water pollution. It was not that. You HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ may be happy to learn that during HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR the course of the last year, we provi­ BAKHT) : I am grateful to both the ded potable water to 18,000 villages; hon. Members for having contributed during the current year, our target is to this discussion on the amending Bill 27,000 villages and 1 am .sure wo are on Water Pollution. going to achieve it.

I had to provide certain informa­ She said two things about the sweet tion, which I will do--first to Mr. will of the States. We have not left it Sinha. There have been prosecutions to the sweet-wili of the States; but we which have already started in 3 or 4 are not over-stepping also, because the States. All the details are, of course, States are sensitive about their not ready with me just now; but I can own areas of authority. So, we are assure him that things which were just persuading them, as colleagues lying stale have got going. About the and partners in a certain activity; and other point, it is only the 3 major we are glad to tell you that the States States viz. Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu are responding in a positive manner. and Orissa which have not yet adopt­ About the sample, I would have been ed the Water Pollution Act of 1974. very glad to have accepte^l the amend­ But we have been able to persuade ment of the hon. lady Member if she them to take the necessary action, to had done it in time, but I am told fall in line for the sake of uniformity. that it is too late; and we shall surely In Orissa, a resolution has already like to adopt it in the rules, if it is been introduced in the Assembly. possible. I commend that the Bill be Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu are also passed. actively considering the adoption of this Act. The only Stages whi:h re­ MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: main are the smaller States, viz. ManipuJ*, Meghalaya, Nagaland ai^d ‘‘That the Bill be passed/’ Sikkim. But I think that by taking active, physical interest, we shaJl be Tbe v o tlm wag adopted. 349 Britannia Engg, Co. KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) Ltd. (Mokameh Unit) 350. and Arthur Butler & Co. (Muzzafarpore) Repealing and Amending Dill 16.11 hrs. the undertakings owned by Arthur Butler and Company and the right, BRITANNIA ENGINEERING COMPA­ title and interest of Arthur Butler NY LIMITED (MOKAMEH UNIT) AND and Company in relation to the said THE ARTHUR BUTLER AND COMP­ undertaking, shall, by virtue of this ANY (MUZAFFARPORE) UMITED Act, stand transferred to, and shall (ACQUISITION AND TRANSFER OF vest in, the Central Government.” UNDERTAKINGS) BILL—Contd. It is in its totality. This is the usual MR. CHAIRMAN: We shall now take form of passing legislation and Title up further consideration of the follow­ therefore is in order. This is the same ing motion moved by Kumari Abha as the popular term “Nationalisation.” Maiti Oil the 20th November, 1978, namely:— One of the hon. Members has asked “That the Bill to provide for the a question why so much losses have acquisition and transfer of the light, been incurred. The losses mainly sus­ title and interest of the undertakings tained by these two companies are due of Britannia Engineering Company chiefly to the fulfilment of unremu- in relation to the Mokameh unit nerative backlog of wagon orders owned by it and the right, litJe and from the Ministry of Railways. The interest of Arthur Butler and Com­ management of these two undertakings pany in relation to the undertakings tried to raise a question of review of owned by it, with a view to ensur­ wagon prices against 1974-75 Rolling ing the continued manufacture of Stock Programme but the Railways did railway wagons and other ?oods es­ not agree to such revision. The los­ sential to the needs of the c'juntry ses on the manufacture of wagons till in general and the Railways in par­ 31-3-1978 in both these companies have ticular and for matters connected been of the order of Rs. 1.90 crores. therewith or incidental thereto, be The average loss of per four wheeler taken into consideration.” wagon comes to about Rs. 14.000 on; the old orders given to these companies THE MINISTER OF STATE IN prior to Government take over. THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRIMATI ABHA MAITI): Mr. Chairman, I am sorry, I could not reply Under this scheme, while all post­ to the debate yesterday. Yesterday, I take over dues of others will be met, had heard the points which were rais­ pre-take over dues of only the employe­ ed by the hon. Members in this House es will be met. in regard to this Bill. One of the hon. Members has raised a question that why the term “Nationalisation” has Though within this scheme, pre-lake not been used in this Bill under the over loans granted by IRCI and Bihar chapter “Acquisition and Transfer of State Financial Corporation will not be Mokameh Unit and Undertakings of met, but considering these losses as Arthur Butler and Company.” If you fosses to the Government concern, it see Chapter of the BiU you will find was decided by the Government that we have sought to acquire the of India that the financial liabilities title as follows: will be fully protected by the Central' Government. “The Mokameh unit and the right, title and interest of Britannia Engi­ neering Company in relation to the The shortfall which is estimated to Mokameh unit; and be of about R’sl 32.27, lakhs be* 3 5 1 Britannia Engg. Co. NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Ltd. (Mokameh Unit) 35» and Arthur Butler & Co. (Muzzafarpore) Repealing and Amending Bill [Shrimati Abha are going to acquire by this enactment will be transferred and vested in the assumed by the Central Govemmeni new company which we are going to outside the scheme of acquisition. form in the ratio of Rs. 200 Ukhs equity and Rs. 90.55 lakhs as loan. One of our colleagues was raention- ing about its assets and liabilities. If A question has been raised about the you see the assets of these two comp­ headquarters. At present they are anies, the total asset comes to Rs. 290.55 located in Calcutta. It has been deci­ lakhs while the liabilities, secured ded by the Government of India to loans, current liabilities and govern­ transfer the headquarters from Cal­ ment loans come to Rs. 304.99 for Ar­ cutta to Muzaffarpore because of its thur Butler and Rs. 325.27 lakhs for several advantages. Now these two Britannia Engineering. Thus liabili­ companies are going to be one company ties far exceed the assets. Some hon. and the name will be Bharat Wagon Members ask: w h y compensate the dd & Engineering Co. There will be cne owners. There is no question of pay­ company only. ing anything to old owners; in ielation to the two companies, the liabilities DR. RAMJI SINGH (Bhagalpur); Is are to the Government of India a^d there any advantage in having head­ other financial institutions like the IFC quarters at Muzaffarpore? and other concerns of the Govemmeni of India. We have to meet those Jia- KUMARi ABHA MAITI: Yes. Muzaf­ bilities and we tried to give them hack. farpore is a Divisional Headquarter Based on the pattern followed for the where essential facilities are available. nationalisation of sick textile under­ Mokameh is a small town, not even a takings and other undertakings ac­ sub-divisional town where even essen­ quired in the recent past by the de­ tial facilities could be granted. That partment, the maximum compensation is why w'e have decided in favour of that needs to be given for acquisition Muzaffarpore. This is all I have to of these units would amount only 1o say. I think the House will pass the Rs. 290.55 lakhs. This amount would Bill without any amendment. not be adequate to repay the central MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: government loans which amounts to Rs. 426.31 lakhs advanced to the two “That the Bill to provide for the units after the take over of their acquisition and transfer of the right, management. The compensation fund title and interest of the undertakings according t© law is being conducted by of Britannia Engineering Canipany the commissioner appointed for this in relation to the Mokameh unit purpose; as 1 have said the compensa­ ov^Tied by it and the right, title end tion fund will be only Rs. 290.55 lakhs interest of Arthur Butler and Com­ and it will not be sufficient for the pany in relation to the undertakings purpose. Therefore, it is proposed owned by it, with a view to ensuring that a part of the central government the continued manufacture ^f rail­ loan will have to be written off. First, way wagons and other goods essen­ two priorities for payment out of com­ tial to the needs of the country in pensation fund would b e: emploj'ees general and the Railways in parti­ dues and the post take-over secured cular, and for matters connected bank loan of IFCI; these liabilities therewith or incidental thereto, be total Rs. 94.99 lakhs. This leaves a taken into consideration.” balance of Rs. 195.56 lakhs for pay­ ment of government loans. So, alout The motion was adopted, Hfl. 230.75 lakhg ot government loan 'Will have to be written off. The as­ MR. CHAIRMAN: Now we take* up sets of these two companies which we clause by clause consideration. 353 Britannia Engg. Co. KARTIKA 30, 190 0 (SAKA) Ltd. (Mokameh Unit) 354 and Arthur Butler & Co, (Muzzafarpore) Repealing and Amending Bill

The question is: MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you want to make a speech on it? “ Clauses 2 and 3 stand part of the SHRIMATI ABHA MAITI: I have already said about the transfer ol The motion was adopted. headquarters to Muzaffarpore. This has already been decided. I have al­ Clauses 2 and 3 were added to the ready said that there are several faci­ Bill. lities for which we have decided to locate it at Muzaffarpore. MR. CHAIRMAN: There is an erm- endment for insertion of new Clause MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you still want 3A. Dr. Ramji Singh, do you want to to persist Dr. Ramji Singh? move? DR. RAMJI SINGH: i want to with­ DR. RAMJI SiNGH: i beg to move: draw.

‘page 3,— Amendment No. 2 was, by leave, with­ drawn. a^ter line 11, insert— MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: “ 3A. The headquarter for both the Companies shall be “ Clauses 4 to 33, First Schedule situated at Mokameh.” (2) and the Second Schedule stand part of the Bill.’* MR. CHAIRMAN: She has replied to this. Still you want to emphasise The motion was adopted. your point? Clauses 4 to 33, First Schedule and the Second Schedule were added to the Bill. t I WYX ^^\H\ 77IT m m ^ ^ ?ft ^ MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: «R f I I ftr^rfr^TT “That Clause 1, the Enacting For­ ^rPRt ^ ^ ^ f , mula, the Preamble and the Title ^ I ^ I ffhTTT t f% stand part of the Bill” . ^ jTHi t, ^ # The motion was adopted. ^ ^ gPsTOT ^ t I =5fWt ^ I Clause 1, the Enacting Formula, the Pf ^TRT^TJT ^ af^9TI'T 'TO | I WPi Preamble and the Title were added to iTFT I ?ft <»TT^Mr the Bill ^ +i<^M % m ^^rf^TT I q t ^ ^ t ^ ^rrr^Ft SHRIMATI ABHA MAITI: I beg to move: ^ f^TtT t^iTT ^H hI ^ ^ qf?n “That the Bill be passed.” »f)^FFTT 5^ ^ WPT I I MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is:

^ ^ VtvnTT ^ WTT “That the Bill be passed.” 5>rr i ?rwpfT ^ ^ The motion was adopted- ^fRT ^ ?ft ^TcT if I 355 NOVEMBER 21, 1978 Suppression of Im- jcg. moral Traffic in Women Sr Girls (Arndt.) Bill 16.27 hrs. MR. CHAIRMAN: You are expected REPEALING AND AMENDING BILL to know that. As the hon. Minister THE MINISTER* OF LAW, JUSTICE has said, there is nothing for making a speech. I think I can d’roctly put a n d COMPANY AFFAIRS (SlriRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): i beg to move; it to the House. I ‘That the Bill to repeal certain The question is: enactments and to amend certain “That the Bill to repeal certain other enactments, as pass-^:l by Ra- enactments and to amend certain jya Sabha, be taken into mnsiaera- other enactments, as passed by tion.’’ Rajya Sabha, be taken into consi­ This is a non-controversial measure. deration.” It is one of those periodical measures The motion was adopted. by which enactments which have ceas­ MR. CHAIRMAN: There are no ed to be in force or have become obso­ amendments. lete or the retention whereof as a The question is: separate Act is unnecessary. For ins­ tance when an amending Act has been “That clauses 2 to 4. the First brought into force with the result that Schedule and the Second Schedule the parent Act already stands amend­ stand part of the Bill.” ed, to retain the amending Act separa­ The motion was adopted. tely on the statute-book becomes Clauses 2 to 4, the First Schedule and unnecessary. Only the bulk of the the Second Schedule were added to statute-book gets fattening up without the Bill. any practical purpose. This is a perio­ dical exercise undertaken every three MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: or four years. It is a slimming pro­ “That Clause 1, the Enacting For­ cess just to keep the figure as beauti­ mula and the Title stand part of ful as the figure of Mr. Chandrarp^n. the Bill. If there are any formal defects of a The motion was adopted. purely formal nature in any Act, Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and advantage is taken of this periodical the Title were added to the Bill exercise to remove those defects also. SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN: I beg to Any amendments which are made by m ove: such a measure are purel> of a non- “That the Bill be passed.” controversial character. Last time this exercise was gone through in 1974 MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is : which covered all the Acts upto 1970. ‘That the Bill be passed.” This Bill covers Acts upto lv'75. This The motion was adopted. is a purely non-controversia) Bill. I do not think either I or any other hon. 14.31 hrs. Member would really be justified in SUPPRESSION OF IMMORAL TRAF­ taking up the valuable time of this FIC IN WOMEN AND GIRLS august House on a purely formal mea­ (AMENDMENT) BILL— sure like this. I would, therefore, implore hon. Members to create a pre­ THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, cedent by not making any speeches on SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE this non-controversial measure and (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER): pass it unanimously. Sir I beg to movef: SHRI K. GOPAL (Karur): If the “That the Bill to amend the Sup­ hon. Minister assures us that he has pression of Immoral Trafllc in Wo­ not introduced anything else in this men and Girls Act, 1956. be taken Bill, we agree to his proposal. into consideration.”

tMoved with the recommendation^ of the President, 357 Suppression of Im- KARTIKA 30, 190 0 (SAKA) moral Traffic in 358 'Women & Girls {Amdt.) Bill I would like to submit the main prin- there were many loopholes which en­ ciples of this Bill so that the hon. Mem­ abled the interested sections in this bers will find that this is a very type of factivity to go scot free and necessary welfare measure. In fact, they went ahead with their prefersion thu original Act was passed by the or in support of the profe'jsio.i and it Parliament in 1956 in pursuance of was not possible for the law and order the International Convention signed at authorities to enforce the A;,t strictly. New York on 9th day of May, 1950 for Having derived experience of some of suppression of immoral traffic in wo­ the loopholes, the Government discus­ men and girls. You will observe, Sir, sed the matter at different levels and that prostitution is the wors« form of a Special Committee was set up. exploitation of women and as an ins­ SHRI VAYALAR RAVi (Chirayin- titution it speaks of man’s tolerance of this exploitation on an organised level kil): Personal experience? in society. The original Act did not DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- want to ban prostitution altogether DER): I may inform the hon. Member because efforts had been made in many that I come from the City of Calcutta, countries to ban prostitution but that where there are numerous piostitutes, had not succeeded. In fad, this evil and many of them are voters. They has existed from time immeorial are also human beings and they de­ and in some societies prostitut;on was serve oLir sympathy and, to some ex­ somewhat rationalised ani a high tent, consideration. status was given to a i^eclion of the As I was telling you, after having prostitutes. You will remember. Sir, noticed some of the lacunae, the gov­ that in all ancient Greek cities a ernment set up the Committee at the section of prostitutes known as hetairai instance of the Ministry of had been very well educated and had Social Welfare. The Committee also taken part in civic activities and were noticed some loopholes and ultimately given very high status. I'n our country the matter was taken up at the level also, in some towns ancient limes, we of the Law Commission. The Law Com­ find that tlie prostitutes, loast a sec­ mission also examined the provisions tion of them, called the gavokas, used of the Act and made certain sugges­ to enjoy a very high status. In some tions. Mainly on the basis of these of the ancient cities, the prostitutes suggestions, this particular Bill has been had earned the title of ncigara sobana brought '^efore this House for consi­ that is, the glory of the city, the orna­ deration. I would broadly indicate to ment of the city. Moreover, we find the hon. Members the main provisions that in some of our ancient temples, of this Bill. prostitutes had acquired religious character and d^rdasi system was In implementing the provisions cl continued in some of these temples. the Ate, it was found that adequate man-power was not available for the purpose of helping the autho­ The menace had been attacked in rities dealing with law and modern times through several legisla­ order. In order to get additional tions. Now when this international or adequate man-P'ower, the type of body had decided that we should try officer who would be involved in im­ to stop commercialisation of prostitu­ plementing the provisions of the Act tion ralher than banning prostitution is proposed to be changed. Under the altogetKier, the international conven­ existing provisions of the Act, special tion was signed in New York in 1950. police officers who are to be appointed India wanted to adopt the provisions by the State Governments for dealing of this Convention and accordingly in with offences under this Act shall not 1956 this particular Act was passed. be be^ow thp rank of Deputy Super­ Now in working this Act, we noticed intendent oi Police. If a Deputy Super­ there had been maiiy lacunae intendent of P o ^ e iff to* b » aaaecialM 359 Suppression of Im- NOVEMBER 21, 1978 moral Traffic in 360 Women & Girls (Arndt.) Bill

[Dr. Pratap Chandra Chunder] and Kashmir. We have made an al­ ternative provision that if there is a in the cases of offences coming under corresponding law in that State, that this Act, then it will be diflicult to also may be made applicable here. implement the provisions of the Act, because he is generally busy with Two more important provisions are many other serious types of crimes. sought to be introduced here. While So, in order to have adequate man­ it is not possible to ban prostitution power to deal with this type of offen­ altogether under this Act, power is ces, it is proposed that the special being sought to be conferred upon the police officer shall not be below the State Governments to notify certain rank of Inspector of Police. An en­ areas to be free from prostitution. abling provision has also been made Under the present Act there is a ban to empower the District Magistrate to On carrying on prostitution within . appoint retired police and military 200 yards from any place of public officers as sp-ecial police officers. religious worship, educational institu­ tions, hospitals, nursing homes etc. Under the existing provisions of But here we propose to confer more the Act, local witnesses are necessary. It is also provided that at least one power on the State Governments to of them should be a woman. Very notify certain other areas also, keep­ often it was found that a local respect­ ing in view population and other fac- able woman was not available and, tor< so that at least some areas will because of the absence of such a local be zones free from prostitution. This is a welcome step in my submission respectable woman, proceedings could not be started. It is now proposed to because while we cannot ban prosti­ widen the scope and provide that a tution altogether, at least certain zo­ nes can be kept free from prostitution respectable woman from any other at the discretion of the State Govern­ locality is sufficient so that this defHi- ment. culty which was created by insistence on the witnesses being from that loca­ lity might go. Then, in the matter of trial under the existing Act, it was noticed that Under section 10 of the present Act, it was a time-consuming process. Some we had certain provisions about pro­ of the offences would take a long time bation, which was done more or less and it would be expensive also. Tak­ imder the old Code of Criminal Pro­ ing this lacuna in view, interested par­ cedure of 1898. The Code of Criminal ties would ultimately see that the Procedure was changed in 1973. Fur­ quilty people escape punishment. So, ther, a new Probation of Offenders Act it is proposed in this Bill that there had been passed in 1958. Now it is should be provision for summary suggested in this Bill that the Proba­ trial, and the appropriate authority, tion of Offenders Act should apply to who has been specified in detail in the this Act relating to the suppression Bill can have this trial in a summary of immoral traffic so that instead of fashion; but if the magistrate feels sending the unfortunate women to from the evidence that fuller trail jail, the Judge may consider it fit to should be necessary, now that alter­ keep these women under probation native power is also given to the so that they may improve their con­ magistrate. duct and not become jail birds in fu­ ture. Finally, another important provision is the creation of some special courts None of these Acts, neither the so that instead of going to the ordi­ Criminal Procedure Code Act of 1973 nary court which again will be a time- nor the Prol>ation of Offenders Act consuming process and expensive, now woUltl be applicable to Jammu the State Government may declare t?6l Svnresiion of Inu KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) moral Traffic in 36z Women & Girls (Amdt.) Bill

certain special courts in this matter this Act is existing. In spite of this and frame cesrtain special rules for Act, nothing has been done to control the purpose so that the trial can be it. dealt with very quickly. What is the reason? The reason is that there is corruption among the These are some other important police •officiais. The police people are matters which are provided in this colJuding with the investors and the Bill and I strongly recommend to lodge-owners and encouraging this this honourable august House that prostitution. Of course, it is a good this Bill may be passed so that we thing that the Minister is changing can plug the loopholes contained in the Act so that the higher official is the existing Act. invested with powers of charging these prostitutes, but oJess the driaracter MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: of the -officials is changed, is it possible to implement even this legislation, “That the Bill to amend the Sup­ even this amending Act? pression of Immoral Traffic in Wo­ men and Girls Act, 1956, be taken Not only does it exist in the cities^ into consideration. ” but it is growing further. Some girls are being taken and sold in big cities. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU There was a case recently in Andhra (Chittoor): Sir, when I was studying Pradesh. There was a judicial probe^ in our College at Anantapur, when there was commotion. One Punjabi we had taken up the subject of Sta­ brought three girls and she was sell­ tistics, we had been asked by our pro­ ing them, and therefore she was cau­ fessor to conduct two surveys. One ght. She was bringing them from the is, the reasons for getting addicted to villages to Hyderabad for the purpose drinking and the other is on why of prostitution. Therefore, not only girls and others are becoming prosti­ are they running the brothel houses^ tutes. Sir, in Anantapur we had but they are also taking girls from surveyed 272 huts. At that time the the rural areas to cities for earning prostitutes used to live in huts. We money by selling them. inquired into the matter. 90 per cent Not only that. Because some coun­ of them became prostitutes because tries are becoming affluent, they want of poverty, and there, our conclusion girls from our country. It is unfortu­ then was that unless this poverty of nate that some of the people are eng­ the people is eradicated, prostitution aged in carrying girls to other coun­ will remain there in our country. tries also, and there they are selling Even today the position is the same. them and getting money. Therefore, The people below the poverty line how is it possible to arrest this traffic, are increasing and therefore, prostitu­ traffic from rural areas to cities and tion is also increasing. At that time from cities to other countries? That it was in the huts. Now it is in the the Minister has to take into conside­ lodges concentrated in towns and ration. cities. Many people who can invest money are bringing these girls and I am very glad that he has said that popularising this prostitution and when these unfortunate sisters are earning lakhs of rupees. If we take, rescued from these prostitute homes, for example, Tirupathi, which is a they must be on probation. There holy place and which is renowned must be rescue homes and Government internationally, we are having several has to allot money so as to run them lodges numbering nearly 100 wherein and see that they are given some work. prostitution is being practised, and Because they are not able to earn therefore, eradication of prostitution their livelihood, they are taking up is becoming very difficult. Of course prostitution. So, if Government can 363 Suppression of Im- NOVEMBER 21, 1978 moral Traffic in 304 Women & Girls (Amdt.) Bill [Shri P. Rajagopal Naidu] ^T#5T»r wrf^ fwr ^hsrt ? vtr vfr-*f>5t #?7TT-^fnr | 1 give them some work in rescue homes, ^ ^ V ?TTT I think we can better their lives. ?tVt ^ jw m ^ STTT ^ ^ ^mrr ^ ?fN: ^ ^ ^ The Minister has said that they are «TR ^ ^ I carving outsome zones so as to pro­ hibit prostitution in those areas. It is ^ W ^ t ^ ^ a good thing, but first they must take ^nft ?TFr ^ ^ ^ — cTT up the cities Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta- wrm Where the population is growing fast yfqriHT ^ ^ and where this woman-traffic is be­ I ^ '*1 Sifi MMVt ^^11 ^1 coming more. If they can concentrate ^r?T TK I A ^ 16/11 ^ 1% ^ ^ on certain cities and experiment with ^ ^ jffrfw ^ T^T this, it is quite possible to remove and ^K^arq # ^ ^ fOT to restrict this traffic in minor cities +H'i ^ 1 +ii and towns. ^ qr ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ y'lrtfT^H t ^ ^ I am very glad that he has come up ^ ^prTrTT t — ^ ^ frnr^ with this legislation. I want its im­ =3rrf^' 1 ?rmTT =^ft5rwR t, plementation, and I want him to take ^ ^ TT^HrTT ^ f — measures to remove corruption among lit v f i?n;ft ^ ^ the officials. t ffk ^ ^ ?T»ft cTf? ?nrtr ?r^ ^ ^ t I A ? f% ftr^TT ^ •rnnr ( ) 3TO rT«TT ^ ^ ift, furin ^ % f?rq ^ ^'T ^ T O ^3WT I (#ffr?T5T) fwtiRT, 1 9 7 8 -rm t TWWl' W ^T?TT f I m ^ ^ ^ ^mr t ’TR’ ^ ffrCTT ^ ^ 5RTR ^ ^ iTFHTt I #TT f ^ ? T t ^Tf?r^ qr 5^frT ^ ?T'T5TT?ft TR: t , ^ f3R TT t, ^ fsR nrr^ ^ mrft $: ^ ^FT^- t, ^ ^ ^ JT^rr ^ 5TR ^ ^ ^ I ^frr ?n WTT fjTTJft I ^TlfTT t 5pr W ^ f fr ^

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9TTT 16 17 ^ *T ^ But it has been characterised as an ? ml ^ Tpn t ‘ t evil even in Hindu mythology and in f W V ^ ^ ^ R , the Old and the New Testaments. If ^ ^ ^5FT^ ^iTFT, qr vdn«w ^TT we go through the Old and the New ^ ^ I ^ ^.T ^ ftrarin ^strt Testaments, you can see that many fsm ^ ^ ?TT ^ punishments have been prescribed. It j ^rir these things—I do not know whether T ’shT^ ^ w # made a study of it. In India itself, I ^ I Jpt TTJfrq t believe, j/iany bO'Oks have come out t ’itH: f «i TTn ^fr r?:^''r f ^ftr On the subject. Many studies have ^ ^TT5^^TBt ^ I 2T ^ ’JT been made on the living conditions ^TR ^T ^ 3TR and the circumstances in which this irt 4. 5trr?ift ^r i kind of a thing has spread in big ci­ 5h^5ro?t t I ^ '4t nrRT^r ties. We come across many reports ^'t ^ =^rf^ -mh: ^r ^ about brokers as to how they apply 5ITOT I, ^ ^ T |, ^T ^ coercion and force and indulge in ^ ^TT>;^TSfr ?fk onf^^TT T-T these things. In a city, like, Bombay and Calcutta—I do not know much 31 ^ ?TT^rrfr #< ^ about Delhi—the Minister may be w fr H-Nrft ^ ^t3- knowing that there are many cases TO ^ ^ ^ t I ^ where village girls have been brought fT’jft ^ rj I I there and sold out. The police some­ ?fTT ^ ^ 3? ^ irr ^ ^ t times makes a raid and the girls say, ^ 3rf^ ^ ^ ?T I “We have been brought here and sold ^ ^ ^ ^ out.” Such reports are there. Mr. Naidu was telling about a recent case. I re­ ^ ^ ^ t I ^ 5F ^ ^ ^ ^ ^T«J^T ITR ^K member, there was a big commotion ^ ^ ftrts^T ^ ^ ^ ^ among the people, specially among the 5RRT ^ «rtr ^ ITsp q7TTTT student community, in Hyderabad. ^rnn it I They demonstrated in front of the State Legislative Assembly demanding f5T i ^ ^ ^ fW^ the withdrawal of a remark' made by a Minister of the Andhra Pradesh SHRI VAYALAR RAVI (Chirayin- Government. kil): Mr. Chairman, Sir, this is a very Of course It is a very regrettable simple Bill as the hon. Minister has remark that he made, but there is one put it. Naturally, the House will ex­ point to be thought over, ^here are tent all the support to it. reports of people coming from the Whether prostitution is an evil or a Gulf area called Arabs who temporari­ profession is a question to be asked. ly mairy poor Muslim girls and then It is more a profession than an evil go away alter two months ot stay 367 Suppression of Im- NOVEMBER 21, 1978 moral Traffic in 368 Women A Girls (Amdt.) Bill [Shri Vayalar Ravi] that are going to be prescribe—whe­ ther he is going to be an independent with the girl. The man goes away authority or whether he will have the and never comes back. He pays some status of a police officer and can raid money to the brothel house and later houses and arrest people and produce the condition of the girl who is marri­ them before the Magistrate etc. This ed to the foreigner becomes pitiable has to be seen from the Rules which and she is taken to the Bombay city you are going to frame. But may I and is sold to the brothel house. This submit to the Minister to consider is a very serious matter. Due to their whether it is necessary or not? My social conditions they are forced to feeling is that it is not necessary. We submit to marriage with foreigners can leave it to the State Government and after two months stay they go to use their own man-power which is away I am told there is no law which more responsible. prevents this kind of marriage with a The other thing is about the special foreigner. They abandon the girls be­ court. I wish the Minister will explain cause the Arab countries never app­ what is the necessity of the special rove of such a marriage they cannot court being instituted. You say that take the girls there becauso they the case has to be disposed of with don’t approve of it. all speed and it should not be delayed. Does this mean that there are so many So, I hope the Hon. Minister will cases of prostitution pending today in consider how this social menace can the court? This, only the criminal law be prevented. If necessary I hope he figures can show. But in big cities like will bring up suitable enactment to Bombay and Calcutta and in Munici­ prevent the foreigners meddling in pal cities, I don’t think that such a our society. large number of cases of prostitution are pending. People go there and con­ fess or they go on bail there are not Now here, in this Bill, you have many cases of conviction. So, this made certain provisions, one for a provision for a special court will only special police officers page 6 suggests give the impression that so many cases the Supreme court has given its con­ are pending and so much of prostitu­ sent to it—and the other one is for tion exists in the country and" the special police officers page 6 suggests Government is unbale to cope with that, due to lack of man-power, the the situation. That is the impression District Magistrate may, if he con­ that will be created. Anyway, this is siders it necessary, entrust this job to a matter for you to decide: I am only a retired police officer or an ex-Ser- asking for an explanation of the neces­ vice man. But I apprehend, and would sity for a special court. like the Hon. Minister to consider whether this will not lead to more cor­ As far as immoral traffic is concern­ rupt practices and intimidation of the ed, Mr. Naidu pointed out the compuls­ people because our understanding is ions of the people who resort to such that there is no lack of police person­ a profession. In big cities even by law nel. And supposing a retired police it is allowed and you only say that it officer or an army officer is appointed, is limited to certain areas. Even today he is not responsible to the Govern­ in the big cities it is allowed and so ment and he is not responsible to in the villages and other areas also society either. He can only use his it is going on. We have to think of authority and power for his own ends. preventing it not only by law we must I don’t think they will enable the try, through social reforms to reduce Government to prevent prostitution the number of brothel houses or re- or help the Government to check it. reduce the number of prostitutes. -We And I don’t Imow what are the powers have to persuade them not to resort to 369 Suppression of Im- KARTIKA 30, 1900 iSAKA) moral Traffic in 370^ Women & Girls (Arndt.) Bill this profession but to ke to some What I want to say this. You other profession. I say this because may make this suggestion to the State prostitution has become profession. Governments that perijdical vjsits That is the problem. We say a re­ may be made to the brothel houses^ port that, once, in Tokvo, thousands so that the girls there may have pri­ were parading in the street demand­ vate talks with the police officials; or ing more amenities, making demands the police officials themselveg may in­ On the Government. Here fortunately, terview these girls ask them so far, there has been n- demonstra­ whether they want to go -.way from, tion by the prostitutes. May be, one there and if they want to go away d a y in the streets of Calcutt'3 they from there, they should be helped. may parade asking for improvement Today there is no such method The in their working conditions; they may police or a competent ju'iicial ' utho- gherao you, the Minister, because you rity should interview or interrogate^ represent that area. In Bombay also I these girls in the broth^^l nouses and susp>ect it m a y come about one day. ask them whether they want Lu stay During the municipal elections, even there or they want to run away. If big leaders went there; the former they want to run away, olease rescue Prime Minister walked through that them. The initiative muht com.e from area w’ith folded hands saying ‘Na- the States. So, far. no such initiative maste’ because they become respect- has come from the States They are iible at the time of elections? only thinking of penal action because they consider this as ^ criminal of­ 17.D5 hrs. fence; they view it more as a crimi­ nal offence then as a social reform. I Vs’ish your Ministry takes a lead in [Dr. Sushila Nayar in 'the Chair] this and gives directions to the State Governments—not only to treat it as It is necessary that, through social a criminal offence but also consider reforms and a kind of economic up­ the aspect of social reform. They can' lift, we persuade these people to get have a periodical interrogation of the out of the brothel housps. We can re­ girls living in the brothel nouses, and form them and rescue them.- from the if a n y of them wants to be freed from brothel houses. But ther^^ is no pro­ the clutches of the toutus and pimps posal for that today. Once in a while, she should be freed. You can make use the police may raid big hotels and put of this provision of making an appli­ those people in jail. That is what is cation before a magistrate to save happening now in all cities. I want them from, the chains of *?lavery. This to make a suggestion here. Now, is the sugestion that I want to n'ake there is a provision in *hp Bill that and I hope the Minister will make his t'l Magistrate can order a police officer comments on this. to raid a brothel hous^ and produce any girl below 21 years before him. Even a prostitute herself can escape Lastly I come to the disease that they from the custody of the brothel house can spread. I do not know whether it by putting up an application before will come under the purview of this. a Magistrate. That is a welcome fea­ There are provisions for periodical ture. But my suspicion or apprehen­ medical check-up of these brothel sion is this: how can the girl submit houses because they can spread the^ this application? Will any girl in a disease, especially among young men brothel house be allowed, or be free, of this country. I do not have the to submit such an application before statistics at the moment. Even in fore­ a Magistrate? Mv apprehension is ign countries, we hear, it is considered that she has no chance to do that. Im­ as one of the most epidemic diseases. mediately she will be beaten up and It was spread by the American Sol­ killed. diers from Vietnam. Yesterday there- 37^ Siipprtssxon of lm~ NOVEMBER 21, 1978 moral Traffic in 372 Women & Girls (Arndt.) Bill [Shri Vayalar Ravi] Anyhow I congratulate the Mini­ ster and request him to look into the was an occasion; Mr. K. P. S. Menon matter. I hope he will look i:^to "he Was speaking; he was telling a story other aspects of the matter also and as to what Mr. Khrushchev told him deal with the points that I have rais­ It seems, he told Mr. Khrushchev, ed. •*Well, you could eradicate Malaria and other epidemic diseases from the QVt Rf>TfT ) : mrmfcT Soviet Union’*, and to this, Mr. Khru­ ^ ^ rfr 4 1^1 ci shchev retorted and said, “Not c\i'y this but even venereal disease; we t I ^ could not get the specimen; to ret a ipmr I ^ ?R+-R specimen, we had to go to foreign ^ ^ rT^ ^ TO Embassies.” This is what Mr. Khru- TO JIFT F *n^TR ^ VT ^ ^ ch ev had said about Soviet Union. ^ t', ^ In certain countries this virus is ^ fm xm vrfrr ^ spreading----- Ttf VRW t, ^ EJTTT I TO ’T?rr ^ ^ TO SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR (Pon­ ^ ^ flTTin irm, ^ i dicherry): Which Embassy? f^T^’ fr^rnft ft ^i«r>nV f. I

SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Foreign ^’TPTT ^ ^ Tl'f'i ^ Embassies. ^ ^ ^ ofTfqiTr gift ^ I ^ cfTiq'f ^ ITT^ ^ OTT t o r o So, it is necessary that we should ?TRTT irrn ?Tt ^ i ’btt see that a periodical medical a'd and WT f^VT^ i, T^-il A' wrrrr f I check up must be there. It must be en­ forced. It must be in the -bw, but It is not enforced by a w authori^v. ^ irVr ^Bhrrrrifr ft% ^ vi;^ ^ When we are speaking about the sup­ mfr ^ iTTTOPt ^ T7^7r[ i sijt pression of immoral traffic, there must ^ clfr.H I ^ W> f ^ , vl'HI jf r ^ - be a specific provision. It nrjs'. he ^ wftr ^ tI , ob'igatory on the part of the municip:! JTcm ^ 5FT 5TPT m t I authority or the government nr the TIHTT W-iJ TTO f.l h I A Police that this medical check up and f, h ??rirrfr ^ ^ medical control must be there be- an so prevention is better than curt Un­ ^ % 7^ T.v^, tt; fortunately, that provision be xTTf^ I there but it is not being enforced I ^TPTT jtttt t ?frr m irrr ^ would like the hon. Minister to kind­ ^ Tf f TT ly look into this and +ake effective steps beacuse it is necesjary t: keep ?rr3r % ’crrcft f. ^ ^ our society free from this disease. ^TRTPr $ ift % Pnft ftr ^ With thttse words I support this Bill. ^TT ?T^ ^WT\ ^ "ift I hope he Will &ee that this profession fir m m ^rrf^$ qr i is minimiied and will not consider it as an evil. It may be a human neces­ ^ ^ ^ ^rmrfro $ fr f^ sity. I will not go lAto the necessity i «TTT»r 5Rf iTRft 11 qr irnr- aspect oi It bec«iu» my wife may be ^ Tfl 3T![t ^ firro ^ The proititutes also serve the 5T#f, ^ ^ 53m t; vTt^-qtcT society and they cater to the human ^ miTTfirv f ftfinff $ fror nteoestity of a certain age. So we can­ JT’T TK <^KU| not forget, that aspect also and they ?> TOrTT t T T * ^ ^ I may even demonstrate one day for ^ WT?:^ 5, 5 10, 10 ^TTFT ^ fTOfTTT b ^ e r amenities. t i 373 Suppression of iwi- KARTIKA 30, IdiK) (SAKA) moral Traffic in 374 'Women & Girls (Amdt.) Bill

iTPHhT ^ ¥^TT5T # t ^ ^ TOt I , M Frfrznwr ^ ^ ^ ^ ?IT^ ^*11 0 ^ 15 WIW ^ ^rrii’ f ^ftx ’TT, ^ w f fn-PT ^nrnr # t‘ I ^ f*R ^TffWf ^ I^jrftT ^ I , tw v m ^ ^ ^ f • sttP t t f t I i n r r # ^ ?ft RFr ^HT ^RTT t • ^ IfT ^ ^ ^ f , ^ ^ ^r^HT ?ft ^ fT fn+H *f> ^ apt 5!T?T f ? qTTHPft, i?)W '^;^T8R 2?T ^ 3TT?fr S, aFHhft, 3n^ 3T^ q-m # ?fW ?ft Hi I* ttft «rr—arFm^r^ ^ ^strt, >4i<»T^< i IT^TFT TT |TT I I ^ v h : %(WK f^iV ^ ¥TT^ fir?r RT ^ H sr4»Jrlf ^ ^TSVT ^TT ^ 3TT^ f I 9fr*T ^ ^ Id ^ ^ ^ *TrTT, vj*ft ^ ^ftrnr ^^ ^^rCt ^-TT ^:r??JI I Mfr^r, I «TW i^r^TO f ^ TO t I ^ ^ ^ «pm ^-^nr ir^ ^ ^ to 1 1 TO^rrft jf ^ spt 1^ ^ H ^ m 7^ itmr tft— I^T^r 2Tf ^ TOT t ^ iFT »TT, ^ ^ ^ TTnmnr pfjtto «TT ^ ^ ^7FT i^fwr ^ ^ ^ ^ # «n# t ^PT-^ nftr ww!ft^ ^ ?TO smnr ^ ^ ^ I ^ ^ STTOTT^ fiTT=TT | "ft» ^ ^y T^ i I ^yr W^WITrftTT w m r i| ^ iy\ ^ ^vit WTTm ^ TRt i srTSTTT ^ I^ T ^ m t I ^ ^ ^ ?T ffefr # % 9T^rrzRT W27o^ ^ ^r t> ^ ^ w ^rtT Nttstr ^ f^?ft fW^n ^ ^ ir^ ^ t ? f ^ ^ ^ ftr ^ ^ ^.JTr^rr^ | y*ii ?TT*ft I ^ ^T ^fTrT 9TTft 1 ^ fm r ^ %dx w f f w ^ ^ ^ ^r^''r, ^ W>T^ I ^ f^ ^ # WT ^ f^VTT ^ irr?TT # I ^ ^ irm t I ?T I ^ sri" WK ^ ^T^f^FrarT ?>, ^ ^ ^i^ft *T^, ^ »T^ 'T^T 1 '-t'HlyiH # f?T^ SFT I 5T^ ^ ^ W n t ff ^ cfrT2T ^ f ■ 1 ^ ^ ^ T^r t I #: ?TTTT TT, ft 1 iin=ivrfl' ^ ? *^TT ^R^nx ^rrw v)" -TOWt ^ t, rfk mgm m rf^ ^ * ^ w 11 ^'j^ff'ii^ ^rr*Tvr^ ^ 1 ?ft ^ j? ^ '^,^1 ^ i% *T5r^[ft ^ ^ worn ^ irrfhrfy ^ I; «ftr 1^ ^>T ^ ^>T ^irnr V7?ft ^ 1 .... (■wwn?) .,, ^ 5OTT ^ ^ ^ r f^ I ^ ^ f w 2;? ^ , ^ ifhR f^nfW t I in ft ^ ^ 5 F ^ J f ^ v j f t PfT fw ^ ^ Prft^ ^ t» ^ g< ^rrfmff ^ ^ ipT ^TO 4 ^ f% iff $ fTRW i ^rM f ^ ^ tSTT ^ f ^ VTX^rlf ^ ^T f%tr ftpfT ^RVR fV ITT # ^iftnrt ^wr # ftrfr M ^ ^TK I 375 Suppression of Im- NOVEMBER 21, 1978 moral Traffle in 3TS Women & Girls (Arndt.) Bill

[¥t *it»T svnr fjff 5T^ ^?TRT mftr jftnr ^ ^ I inppF irrfinit IXW ^ iTpft ftr *IT'T ^ jf f ^ ^ ^ «T^ ^ fjT^ I jwiW)! ^ pf>VR fT? irtr fijn: ^5t ?># ^nrf^ I ^ TPRT^ W*X HprtH >ji^ ’FH fn ^ | ? ^ ^ ^ f r ^ i firtr iRTT «nro m 4Hii I ^rf f=r?^ tw WT ^ firrr ^ vT?ft ^rnr ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ f; I fwvnr ^ ift^ ^'VfsfTT f% ^rd^dVq' ^ fHR ^ t rfr ^ f%qr ^ ^j^rr ^ ^ ^ %¥WT % q^T 3TTt f ^ ^ eft f ^ ^'t % ?PT^ ^ ofthrt irrf^ ^ ^ ^ ^ JTSTT t ? #ft irmrfT m \ wm %rn ^ ^ f^tT ^nrr ^ i chp ^tpt ^ #qTT t ? Tnmrrr A ^tr ^ tnr '>11^ T ?TO ^ Jfrr A f^5T+< Vllftqt ^^TTft % ?TPT ^mmnr ^ 3r Tft 11 TT^lifr JTr =ETTf^ Pr ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ rffT ^TTT ^ ^l*i^H ^ ?TT—Ph f ^ ^ ^ A ^ I 4^I^^I^^T»TT I irm ^ 5t^ I 4 ^TT^ ?' f% m tTf?TT^% ^ t ?ft fsr^ sf+K ^ ^ tTVlW ^T^t?ry7^»TT3rT^ rT^TT ^ 5tV ^ qr- ^ t tvmn % THT qr, ifr ^ t ^ sr^TTT # JRt^ ?r^'f rn n ff ^ ^ ^ ?. t4 h ^ it ’srnr q r ^ i r Prfr ^d ^ ^rrf^ t ^rftr 9T % ^THT pPR i|^ % giTR spTT^ %T^ «TT ^ ttw ? ^ H?r+'^T ^ ^ m I jv^T^/fT m TTT# ^ t i ^ q?: ‘J?!’ % ^ +-JnVH I I f^3TTtr, ^ ^ irt^ srtf^, ^ ^ A A ERrm ?tit m ITTT ^ 3TTT f^TT szt^ T T T ^ T|[T f ? qr ^TW 5fVT ^ ^T7# ^ hI+O" % f%TT ?TTf ? ?TT ^ f^^TTT ^ SPT^^TW^ fen I t ? 4’ rr fT mA^ ^ qr JT ^ f% ?rnT 5?T: ^ ^ IT^ ^ ?fVT 5fr^>TT I ^ ^ ^ ^ a ftrtw ^ ferr % WTR^ ^ STTTtT ^ 5Tnr ^ ^ ^ JT^t ^"s^TT ^ \ A ^ si^

^TPT ^rnr ^ I A 5T^ ¥To TTRlft R?? (^MI^^T) : H^fTTTfiT ft> tnff ^ I ^ ^ ^ iT^hrrr, ^ A ^rTTlTT iTTT^ •S' ^ *FT ^rr ^ ^ $ t^TTFffir sri^H f I OTT •T ^>^1 r*TPrV '^ifd % ^fr 5t^f>T ^ ^ ?iipT f%^rr 11 FRT^ t ^ 195ft ^TTT WK r^+M Pm t I A ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ T^ ^ ftmr zn^ ?ftt ^ ^ ^ t^TFRT A ^ i fimr OTH «TT ?T*ni ^ ’Tf ^iciK ^ ^ \ ^ A ^nTFTT; 3TFr ^ ^ «TT ftr ^fTOR ^ ^ Wf VT «ft I ^f^ff S l ^ ^ I f W f% #ft ^ Ifnft 5T^, ^ r sT ^ mr, ^ A A ^nr^ft =^?r i ^ ?HTF ?HT ^ tT f ^ FJpr ?m ?rm ^^ttt:^^’ ^ ft»^ !=r^ I, A f^mr ^ I ?Trr% i \ uwz ^ ^ t— %TT^ f^nr^r SHTT % Pir^iq» T*TT ^ 3iWV%T?T •^PT H;aii I tnRrrf^ ^ ^ «p^tt Tfi i% vt fir^ m I ^T^F5T, TT^ ^ 5T ^ t, ^ iFt^ ocrf^r^rrCt | %Ct7: ^ f : mTN% H q, 1 o, ^^ftr ^ ^ FcTcft ^ ^ : ^T^“ ^ ^ ^^ftrr

^ ^iTT^ 7^‘r '4vsr ftpTT I ^rnr ^ rTTf% ^ TO f^ t f^r ^ ^ TTT.^ I I ^rnr ^ ^ ^ ^ I ?TTr^-'T‘^T3nT ^ t I W^J Tt f ^f-3T^ ?^fC3T 3FT ^ ^ ^wfk 5TUPT 4r ^-, f:, ^ i* ^ ^ 1 TA ^ v^T— ^jfF5T^5ft ^r iij qr^ ^ — PM promises all help to fight prostitu­ ^ ^r^'rl t ^ I hH»TI/4 tion. Fh^ ^ f^ ^ 'Jl'i'il ^— JT '3^ ^nrnr Ttot ^ ^ ^ # =^?TT Yrfvvrrr ^'t^tfrtt 5Tt I ^ r «fT— ^ U ' ^rmr ^ ^ ?rr ^f+n iTft €t^i i — ri^ t ’BFRT t ^ ^ ^ ^ I— 5^ (Drag) ’R^'rT cft^ |— i q ?rf^5TTTif ^ ^T??TT ^ I ^iV^rfC^TT ^TTRTfsiT ^ CJfFT ^ ?rk f — 11 ^ ^ ^ r»Wf ?TT 5Tff ^ - # ?T ^TTf^ Trar^tfir ^ Export of Kerala girls—year 1969; snjtrt^ ^tott % ^ Concern over sex racket in hotels— WJ 5TT5»lf^ ^ i I ^*1R Indian girls for Arab flesh-pots— ^ -mx f^m t \ 7-9-1970 Sex for sale— ^ ?ftT m’T ^ ktr

fm r c^ftV ^ ^ Pjr f^^'t ^ 5PRTT ^ ^ I— tvr #' fJT tr^ T^z f w —A ^T^rnr guR^r ^ f — tf-— t t — 7TT!# l" ^ ^ ^ fi, JT^ fert ^ ^ “Delhi graduate among four call girls ^ t I held—the girls used to visit luxury restaurants where after picking up t ?ft ^nrrsnr ’jttr “ customers” for Rs. 200 or so, each, they took them to guest houses for a Prostitution increasing— 1972. Traffick­ “pleasure trip”. One of the call girls ing in Adivas^is girls—Indian Express who belongs to a well-to-do family 4-4-1971. call Attention in Lok Sabha. of a Tis Plazari court official, told the police that she could be booked on q r ^ ?TPTT m I telephone, too.” Call to abolish system of licensed ^ «fk tm prostitution—Francois Pignier, Presi­ ^rp— *15 5ftv ^ f Pi> ^ ^rfhft ^ dent of the International Abolitionist ^ wrnr *r ftnn irni 1 Federation. jT 9 Suppression of Im- NOVEMBER 21, 1978 moral Traffic in 38^ Women & Girls (Arndt.) Dill

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irprftiT to'V f t t ?: ^ TT^ ^ ^ f^ R R ^ fTTTTiff ^ ^ ^ T T sJTf^ir^ I I ? I T?f f# ^ f r 7T y ^ r ^TH ^?T ^ t *fk ^ I ' ^ w r 5qT— m ^ ^fTnTjfi f I ^ “lA ^ ^ «R JTTTTT TT^# ^ ^ I A ^ 3fr q^> ^ |, ^FfT— ^ i: TT STTT^ f — tt^ ^ ^ ?fh: ?nn: ^rttwt ^ ?ft #7>jnrRl- ?rtr feq> ^ jrfT^t i ^T7?fr I, ^ T7T % t friy^T 3iTT ^ ^?jY ?fMnfT f^rf t'. t f -3H ^ I tSHT % T R TT ‘*ft #2FT ^ I n f t ^ ^ “ JT? ' ^m^'Y ^ q ^ T ^ f I VVf ^ vnff fRrI ^ I ^ IT Mrs. HoweU Thomas (UK) criticised 1 1 Street ofi’ences Act also. ^ ^ httV 5rr^t i j^o tztpf rfnr ^ It ^ ^ niTT ^ ^sTTTR ^ f, WT ^ irrm ^ I ^ I ^'T m ^ ^ ^ 1^959 ^ 18,555 ^Fzmt «ft, ^ w m ? I ^ ^ ^ ^ H ^ k \ irq ^ ^^7r:^^rr '*n ^ 1971 ^ ^ ^frr% 5,073 ^ I 1^ TO 5FT ^ ^Twm |m ^ ^tt{ vfr I T'^if i\'j -qif, iTir H ^nir, ifr % T?r finT ?TT Ni»^H f% Jft f ^ I ^ t. ^ 4 0;0 00 f I ^ ^ ^ ITT ‘ I also discussed this mater with % h im : T^ l ^ r ^ the lady member from Russia, but 40,000 ^WTTT f 5^=^ ^S'T+I 5 m they all told me that they have no ^ I ^ rfr ^^nft 'PrqTT^ ^'t^ | 1 problem about prostitution.”

rTT^ ^ f^o q r ^ ^ ^ r^- «ft TT5TT 7T»T WV^ ^ ^ ^ «ftr t, ^ ^ %f\x wT^ afrr ^rr^rh: ^ tt fc n ^ ?3TFfr ifr ^ ^ ^ -^'j^ JT^T ttI 1 m r t ^ I, ^»1 cTT^ ^ ^^'CT f[ ^ VI ^ t, ^ ^ m rr^ sm STSTPT t ?fh: ^nft srftf^sr ^ tT^ t I ?TT f fTT^ ^PTT ^ ^'r ^ 3fr 4% 5T f?!TT ?T7# 5p> ^ ^ ^TTOT ? ffr^TT It qr ir^ ^ ^jfTRTT "TfrwtM CT” '4t t, fsnfm pRft ^TWTrTT, »m7T ^ | ^ ^T^TT^ T ^ fwTT ^ 3( 1) ^ ^ 63TPr ^Tt^; I *nTT I : ^ ?n%*T ^ "?nTT f^rs^” ^'t ^ t I ^ qrr ‘‘Supression of brotherls meant ^^FTt t T^ in w 5 * t’' that the evil of prostitution had #, ^ q r ? tHt ?; ?frT ^ ^ spread all over the cities, for, the W ^ 7HT t I ^5Tt=^ inmates of the houses, which in the ^>ft ^ ITTT H old days were located in certain re­ f^TOTV imjn, ^ ^PfT TT =iT^ ^ I cognised streets, had now set up "?nfV ^ m their establishments in other parts t I ^ HT ^ m 5»3r% ^ ^ of the city. Through this diffusion ^ ^ wrr^ ^ jqYr 5RT ^ 1. . . . a new class of prostitutes had (•ito r ) ___ developed—undeclared, clandestine, ?TT5 ’iftr ^ ^rrSf 4% on whom the police authorities could ftnr ’rfk ?«Tnft * % ift "f»»M%n have no check” . j 8l Suppression of Im- KARTIKA 30, 1900 (SAKA) moral Traffic in 38Z Women & Girls (Amdt.) Bill

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?T^ ^ ^ ^ 11 t— 95 per cent American soldiers are Encyclopaedia oi Social Sciences says, susceptible to syphiUis and gonorrhea. in Vols. XI-XII, page 559: “The city has not only concealed the • .:pply but increased the demand. ^ rfr =^T?Tr ^ The i^reach of home ties and the ^ T?; ^ =qrrf^ 1 anonymity o£ city life with its ^ fiRf SiWR % 2TV fWr ^ absence oI the restraining check of ^rnrr ^ i: ^ neighbour’s opinion, combined with mrT ^ ^ w f^ ^ffT I ^ low wages and loneliness, conduce ^ T»T f^9TT ^ ^ ^ ^ I to meretricious association rather than to marriage. Prostitution is fTj; ^ ^TfTTf ^ ^ ^ not a disease of the social organisa­ I tion; it is only a symptom of the disease” ?[TTTT 5FT^ «fr ^ qrf^— " Harsh economic realities are the cause ^cT ^ 11 ^ of prostitution.

“But today prostitution is essen­ ^ ^ ^ ^>T1T I tially an urban problem and the vast 4 vfr TTTOTT I I size of modem cities makes clandes­ ?rrt«TT ^ ?fcr?j 3^ r^o tine prostitution so easy that the ito 77^ ^ --- licensed houses hold only a small I^aws cannot eradicate prostitution. proportion of the total number. What proportion it is impossible to say, 7,^ m =5fTfk^T the estimates freely made are mere ^=1 WT ^ ^?T ^ q^T =^Tf^rr | guesses". % ftrWrr

i{ TTFO ^ o WTft # ^ ?TT— rft ^ I fiPm ^ m j I— There is int?r-connection between “ Is prostitution diminishing?” Yes prostitution and venereal diseases. nnd no.

*‘It is reported that the percentage ^ TO fer ^ of American males frequenting SffFT^TFT ^STnTTTT I prostitutes after World War II is I I fto m f o 3t|-o CTpii ^ ^— almost precisely the same as after Sociiil protest only way to eradicate World War I. But it is also said that prostitution. the Irenuency of contact with pros­ titutes is reduced. The reduced fre- ^t9T^ ^ 1 ^rNli ^ quencv is accounted for at least in part by extra-marital intercourse ^ frrr 'A t 1 ^hrt ^ with non-pi^stitutes—wnth ‘amate­ t%r ^ urs'.” ^ t • “Some 69 per cent, of the total White male population, it is report­ •*M <^i ^ |T^ ^fPT^nrt 1 ed, ultimately U^s some experience #a>inrFfl’ ^ wrm mrnftnr with prostitutes.^’ *TfrfNfiT I eitPtv v w i f*TT ^ WR^ vr 3Rprr f ? 383 Suppression of Im- NOVEMBER 21, 1978 moral Traffic in 384 Women & Girls (Arndt.) Bill [XTo Ttmft f ^ ] in social and moral values too. The status of women in the society is the ^ T ^ R T ^ ^ I yard stick to assess the prevailing TK ^ ^ economic condition in a society. The t I progress of the society is determined by the rights and the status enjoyed by the women folk in that socity. It ^TT^i ftr qrsT IS indeed matter of deep regret that f. fT^I ^ ^ ?5;?Tm ^ ^ ^ ^PTT^ during the 31 years after the indepen­ t I S4TT ^ ^ status of women in India far from I PHdH % ^ v r fv v being elevated has been going down ^fTT^ ^ r ^ #--^ ^ ^ steadly. Mr. Chairman Sir, I would ^ ^ ^TfT^ t ? like to substantiate my point by ql:< 1- ing a few lines from page 94 of the ^ *rr^ ?ftT H ?At ^ ^ftr Report of the Committee of Status ol ^ ftRTT ^ ^ f% TT ^jfc^trnft Women who had gone into the matter ^ ^ *Ptf W7?T ?T^ 11 ^ wmpT ^ in detail. The Committee had observ­ T^ ^ Mm ^f ?T ■»TT ^ I ed and I quote: ^ ^ JfT^ ^ »T^ ^r •¥TT^ vt e^T^ ^ T ^ |tt ^ I5T “Prostitution represents the ex­ v t fTT T% STT?: »rfirf^ ^'T 'fllTT ifTTT I ploitation of the poor by the rich and ^TTTT ftr^ ^T m f ^ 1^, of women by men. If women have f»TTT T O P T Hr^V ifr m f ^ 5^ff^ t I rejlly to reach the level of equality ^ ’HTJTT I f%t ^ with men, society should be in a sraiT ^ ^ 11 ^;ft^ ^ f position to ensure economic, social and fw? rfm ^ 5nn: ^tWt ^ ^ fen jmr psychological security for the tradi­ ir^vnrprr ^ 'tt ^ tionally exploited women folk. Pros­ ^ ^ ^ftr^ f^T ^ ^ ^ I titution is the worst form of women’s inft c^pfv ^ ^ Q ^ exploitation and inequality.” 11 JTTPT ^n:# ^ iT^Trr % \ ^RcTT TO f Hifc<^+m‘ ^ Ti^^^fVftr qr »§rft i I “ What must be emphasised is the ^ tiifr^«f>dl STTFT +

*The original speech was delivered in Bengali. ^85 Suppression of Im- KARTIKA 30, 190 Q (SAKA) moral Traffic in 386 Women & Girls (Amdt.) Bill Today the Government have intro­ of our country, I am afraid, it will duced the Suppression of Immoral not be possible to achieve these ob­ Traffic in Women and Girls (Amend­ jectives. A little while ago Dr. R’amji ment) Bill with a view to stopping Singh was referring to the social set­ prostitution in the country. We would up in Soviet Union. It is known to no doubt extend our support to this all that in all the class, societies, that Bill but I will join other members of is, in all capitalist countries of the this House to say that the present Bill world like America, Britain, France, is not at all adequate. Once again I Italy etc. the evil of prostitution not will refer to the said Report where­ only exiots but it is thriving day by in it has been said, “There is a sup­ day. As contrasting to this in all the pression of Immoral Traffic in Women Socialist countries ihe evil has been olid Girls Act 1956— 1970. The Act eradicated completely. In fact, l/3rd aimed at the suppression of com­ area of the world Cunder socialist rule) mercialised vice and not at the pena­ prostitution does not exist. It is but lisation of the individual prostitute, nKitural therefore that the women of or prostitution itself.” the capitalist countries are eagerly awaiting to see when socialism will I would like to say as has already usher in their country because only been said by Dr. Ramji Singh that in with advent of socialism will end India attempts are only being made prostitution and the iUs that go with to suppress the problem of commer­ it. In China, prostitution was in vogue cial vice but I must say to emphasise for hundreds of years but *with the that it is not at all sufficient to moot advent of the Communist regime the tne great menace. So long even one evil has been eradicated completely. women of our country is forced to take The practice of “Yellow Card” has to prostitution—whatever be the "one for ever from China. Shri Vaya- reason for the same—be it poverty or lar Ravi and others have referred to unemployment it would be the greatest about the age-old social tradition of stigma on the women folk and a matter p;-.)sti1ution prevailing in our country. of great shame for men, and we all From their talks it appears as if pros­ have to hang our heads in shame as titution is a necessary evil and we long as the evil continues in our have to put up with it. But I differ country. The Constitution of India entirely with them. The Socialist provides for equal rights for women countries of the world has proved that and the Parliament has also passed such a “Necessary evil” can also be some legislation to establish the rights eradicated fully and completely and of women legally. But despdte all these if it can be done there why can’t we edorts there has been no real im­ do it in our own country. Sir, I have provement in the status of women of already said how the “Yellow Card” oui country. We may pass a legisla­ has disappeared from China. I would tion but it will remain a piece of pa­ like to give a very decent example, per or a few dead letters on the Statute that of Vietnam. South Vietnam has Book, if the prevailing social condi­ gained independence for the last 3 tions are not conductive to its success­ years and within this short period of ful implementation. This is what has time Vietnam have successfully ended exactly happend in India. Mention has the practice of prostitution in whole already been made about the necessi­ country. If we look closely to the ty of liberating the women who have problem and the way they were tackl­ become victims of immoral traffic. The ed then we will find that all these problem is to rehabilitate them in social socialist countries were able to life, to give them proper treatment, achieve their objective because they ofler them vocation and above all to first eliminated the causes that com­ rehabilitate them and bestow upon pelled women and girls to take to them the pride and prestige of a family prostitution. They are able to create life. But under the social structure equal job opportunities women, 387 Suppression of Im- NOVEMBER 21, 1978 moral Traffic in 38^ Women & Girls (Arndt.) Bill [Smt. Bibha Ghosh Goswami] unabated in our country. And this has ensured equal status for ■women in given further fillip to the problem of society and assured full dignity for prostitution. In fact the twin evils her in their own country and thereby of dowry and prostitution are thriving they were able to give birth to a new side by side. Women in our country society. In our country nearly 80 per has been reduced to a commodity. She cent of the population is living below can be sold and purchased and the the poverty line. The ligl^t of educa­ village labourer has to pay to buy a tion has failed to lit up the dark re­ bride for himself. I would like to mote comers of the country; and peo­ quote from the Status Committees ple are suffering from acute unemploy­ Report to show how economic condi­ ment. The incidence of unemployment tions are compelling the village girls in the case of Indian woman is very to take to prostitution. The Committee acute and the situation is worsening has observed and I quote: day by day. According to the publish­ “Prostitution is the only way open ed figures in 1961 28 per cent of the to women to earn a livelihood for the women population of our country was family. No stigma is attached to the engaged in gainful employment but women if she brings wealth or income this figure was reduced to 11.8 per from prostitution to her natal or con­ cent in 1971. To put it in figures jugal home. A recent study of the im­ during 1971 out of a women popula­ moral Trafficking in women from the tion of 26.40 crores only 3.13 crores Purola Block of Uttarkashi^ district, had jobs and the rest 23.17 crores had (U.P.) reveals that a large number of no jobs for them. Not only the job giirl^ ^rom the lower socio economic opportunity in our country is little or communities go in for prostitution. In negligible for women but there is a 1969^ 45 women had entered and re­ steady fall in their status too. The mained in this profession for 3 years. It mortality rate of women in India is was estimated that about approxi­ more than that of men. mately 500 families were dependent on If We glance through the figures for this profession on account of extreme the last 20 years we will find that poverty. 60 per cent of girls from the women—men ratio is also Rewain area were operating in Delhi falling. As against 1000 men there and 77 agents were engaged in pro­ are only 932 women in our country. curing women for prostitution. The The story is the same in the sphere of causes for prostitution were the high education where the progress of edu­ bride price and consequent indebted­ cation for boys is more than that of ness of the couple who were forced to Ihe girls. The unemployment situa­ work as bonded labour. The girl was tion in rural India has assumed a fri­ then compelled to earn money to free ghtful position. According to the avail­ the family from this debt through able reports about unemployed women prostitution. In other cases, a man in India there were about 30 lakh wo­ from a higher caste may pay bride men who 'vere completely unemploy­ price and contract a marriage with ed^ those who were half employed one or more girls of a poor family and numbere(^ 1.52 crores and those who take her to Delhi and sell her into were nearly unemployed were 1.76 the trade.’’ crores. These figures glaringly show “Large number of prostitutes also the extent of poverty that is preva­ come from a group of women who lent in our country and, where poverty have been deserted or abandoned by is so acute, where opportunity for husbands and have no other source of employment is so meagre it is but income or employment open for them.” natural that traders of women flesh in About Calcutta the report has said: the cities will take advantage of the situation and exploit the poor girls “According to the Commissioner of and entire them to take to prostitu­ Police, Calcutta, a large number of tion. The evil of dowry continues middle class families are surviving on 389 Suppression of Irru KARTIKA 30^ 1000 (SAKA) moral traffic iri 390 Women & Girls (Amdt.) Bill income from prostitution, in the ed and we have to bring an end to the absence ot alternative avenues of in­ monopoly control over land and indus­ come. A number of these women are try which is prevailing in our country educated and quite a few are even today. When every common man of our graduates.” I am remained of what country—the poor and the exploited— an old prostitute of Uttarkashi had get a right to work then the lot of said 10 the group surveying problem women folk will improve along with of prostitution. In fact this issue was improvement in the condition of the raised in the House a couple of years general masses. (Interruptions) The £go. The old prostitute had said that signs of struggle by exploited masses it would be impossible to prevent the for their own liberation are already girls of landless labour familiess from visible. More and more women are taking to prositution and the only coming forward to take part in this thing that can keep the young girls at struggle to put forward their claims home is the green blooming fieids. In for work, for land for equal rights and other words as long as the village for equal wages for equal work. They larialess do not own land or have their are strugghng to create a new vista means of livelihood their women would where the Indian society will lead it­ always be tempted or compelled to self, step by step towards the creation come to the cities to take up prostitu­ of a socialist society where every wo­ tion as their vocation. If we are really men will have right to engage in so­ serious to eradicate the evil of pros­ cially productive work^ where the titution from our country then instead Indian women will gain a right to of trying to approach the problem sacred motherhood real or potential superficially we have to search for the only then commercial traffidking in roots of the matter and destroy them women will come to an end and Indian completely. Unfortunately the pre­ women will breath fresh air free from sent economic structure of our society bondage and will be able to lead a is so fashioned that it creates com­ hfe beautiful and socially useful. pelling circumstances for women to MR. CHAIRMAN: The House stands take to prostitution. The situation adjourned till 11 A.M. tomorrow. can be remedied only when we are able to restore to the exploited and 18.01 hrs. the neglected masses of our country their rightful place in the society, give The Lok Sabha then adjourned till them the ownership of land and a Eleven of the Clock on Wednesday, right to work. The entire economic November 22^ 191Q/Agrahayana 1 setup of the society is to be restructur­ 1900 (Saka). '

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