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Oral History Interview with Ron Erickson, July 25, 2020 Archives and Special Collections Mansfield Library, University of Montana Missoula MT 59812-9936 Email: [email protected] Telephone: (406) 243-2053 This transcript represents the nearly verbatim record of an unrehearsed interview. Please bear in mind that you are reading the spoken word rather than the written word. Oral History Number: 476-005 Interviewee: Ron Erickson Interviewer: Clara McRae Date of Interview: July 25, 2020 Project: G.A.S.P and the History of Missoula’s Environmental Movement Oral History Project Clara McRae: All right, so can you please state your full name, date of birth, and where you were born. Ron Erickson: My name is Ron Erickson. I was born on [edited for restriction] 1933 in Peoria, Illinois. CM: How long have you lived in Missoula, and why did you move here? RE: We moved here in 1965. I was already teaching. I came as an associate professor of chemistry at that time. The university was about to begin its PhD program in chemistry. The family wanted to move out of Buffalo, New York. I'd been teaching for four years at Canisius College, which is...it was a very nice college. Jesuit. All male. It had a really decent chemistry department. Before that I had done post-doctoral work for three years, so when I came, they knew that I would do research. I'd been doing research and that I would continue to do so. CM: Can you tell me a bit about your family...both before and after you moved to Missoula? RE: Sure. My wife Nancy I met while I was a teaching assistant at the University of Iowa. She got an undergraduate degree in zoology and later a master's degree in nutrition. One of the reasons we came here though was that she wanted to leave those fields and go into art. It's not that she had never done any art, but she had no formal training. So, when she came, she was able to get into the graduate program in art...got both an MA and an MFA in art. The great thing is that it's been something she's done her whole life, and I know that you're not particularly going for written materials, but I wanted to give you a thing for her. (Paper rustling) CM: Yes, thank you so much. That'll be great. I'll be able to upload this to the historical archives too. RE: That is about her work, written 10 years ago. Since then, she's been given the award at the University of Montana…the Odyssey of the Stars award, and there's a nice write-up here by Beth Lo about her. CM: Oh, that's great. RE: So, I'll give you that. 1 Ron Erickson Interview, OH 476-005, Archives and Special Collections, Mansfield Library, University of Montana-Missoula. CM: Yeah, I'll definitely be interested to check that out. RE: But her work has always been environmental, animal-centered. She, in fact, has been very active until the last year. In this last year, she fell down, broke her pelvis. CM: Sorry to hear that. RE: [She] was really laid up for quite a while and still isn't back to being able to do art, although we have a lovely studio where we live for her. We have two daughters, both of whom used to spend time in this park. We lived for a while on Woodworth and then moved up to Pattee Canyon in 1971. The oldest daughter, Chris, was a so-so student...got an offer to go to Idaho State on a volleyball scholarship...didn't do well there at all. [She] hung around Seattle for a while...finally decided she wanted to go back to school...did so, first at the community college and then here, where she finished a degree in pre-veterinary medicine, but as soon as she finished that, she knew that what she really wanted to do was history. So, she switched and got a master's degree here with Mike Mayer, working on the Ku Klux Klan as her topic. She then went to Santa Barbara and got a PhD...did well there...then got a job at Purdue University at Fort Wayne. It's a lesser Indiana school but still a decent college to teach at, and she's taught history there since. She has one daughter, Avery. Avery's 21. Avery's now a student at the University of Minnesota. She spent months in Africa in the past and is probably going to end up someplace that speaks French, because that`s what she does. The other daughter, Terrell, got a degree in political science at the University of Washington...then got a degree in environmental studies at Evergreen State College, also in Washington...got married and ended up in Hawaii finally...got a job. She had already worked some for the feds in the Corp of Engineers, but she got a good job with the Department of Agriculture. The job was as State Biologist for the State of Hawaii. Then she moved to Washington, D.C., where she became National Biologist. She went into training for Executive Service...ended up as the Director of Ecological Sciences for the National Resource Conservation Service in the Department of Agriculture. She's still back in D.C. So those are my family members. We've been very proud of our daughters. CM: Yeah, I can imagine why. It sounds like they've both been very successful in their respective subjects. So, I guess, in terms of your career and your life, what first sparked your interest in environmental issues? RE: You know, it's interesting because I had the PhD in organic chemistry by the time I was 25 and spent three years post-doc'ing, including a nice NATO fellowship in Germany, so we lived a year in Germany. Then I was looking for jobs and got the job at Canisius College. Mostly what I was interested in was chemical research. That's what I was doing, but when we came to Missoula it was 1965. The context, if you will, for all of us in those years, particularly '67, 8, 9, '70 on was war. Missoula was a very anti-war city. Everybody I knew was involved in the anti- war movement. It was the first time it occurred to me to be civic in some way. So, did I do a heck of a lot with that anti-war movement? No, I helped with some of the marches, but that 2 Ron Erickson Interview, OH 476-005, Archives and Special Collections, Mansfield Library, University of Montana-Missoula. wasn't a major effort, I'd say. In '68, '69 I was asked by the Philosophy Department whether I would like to teach in the introductory humanities program here. Have you taken the humanities program...151, 152? CM: I have not, but I have friends who have. RE: Take it sometime. It's quite wonderful. What it did when I said yes in '69 was...first of all, I spent a lot of time reading...the Greeks, in particular, others as well...and it gave me some perspective. We've always been readers, both Nancy and I have always been readers. Certainly, our two daughters are too. At the same time, we live in Missoula, Montana. I remember when we had first moved here in '65, and Nancy woke up and said, "Something's dead in the house." So, she ran to the windows and opened them up and it was worse. CM: Really? RE: What we had was Hoerner-Waldorf, the pulp mill, and hydrogen sulfide...and some mercaptans as well, other chemicals. So, we had firsthand experience, as did anyone who lived in Missoula, with terrible air pollution. Someplace in there, '68 or so, I think it was Life magazine had a full magazine on pollution, and we were the centerfold...Missoula. So, we were aware of that. CM: Yeah, it sounds like it would have been hard not to be aware. RE: Right. CM: I know you were really instrumental in creating the environmental studies program at the university. Was that part what drove you to help create the program or were there other aspects? RE: I remember in January of 1970, I gave my first environmental talk, talking about a crisis of crises. The point was that there wasn't just one environmental crisis...there are many, many, and chemistry had a lot to do with a lot of them. That same year, 1970, a group of faculty began to get together to talk about, well, what are we going to do educationally? That wouldn't have happened as easily without a group that was here since 1959 called WMSCPI...Western Montana Scientists' Committee for Public Information. There were, it turns out, lots of SCPIs in the country at that time. It was started by a guy name Barry Commoner in St. Louis. The point was to make science public and to let people know what's going on. That group had already done a lot of work on, for example, nuclear testing and particularly those tests where results came down upon us in Montana. So, you know, the group included Clancy Gordon in botany; Mel Thornton in botany; Bert Pfeiffer in zoology; Mike Chessin, who was probably the very first person, another botanist; Arnold Silverman in geology; a new guy on campus that year, 1970, was Bob Curry in geology.
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