The Bates Bulletin

SERIES X VOLUME 5 SPRING 2013 NUMBER 1

LAST bulletin STICKER If you have a last bulletin sticker on the front of your Bulletin, then it means we have not received your 2013 Dues. To con- tinue receiving the Bulletin we must have your dues. If you are not sure of the amount etc., contact Sandy at The signature of William Bates, signed when he was witness to a [email protected] or 222 Line Road Greene Maine marriage in County Wicklow 04236 or call 1-207-946-7067. OFFICERS RE-ELECTED William Bates and his Family Enough votes have now been cast for the 2013 election of offi- lived in Ballymurrin, Quaker cers. All votes went for the re-election of the same slate of Farmstead, County Wicklow, officers. None were against. Thanks to all who took the time to vote. Much Appreciated. Ireland from 1671 to 1681 By Philip Geoghegan PICTURE OF FERN BATES In the Winter 2012 Bulletin on page 506 I ran the information Introduction on the baby picture of Fern Bates. Shelley Cardiel had ac- quired this picture and shared with us. Shelley has now do- My temerity to write about William Bates is not so much nated and sent, this picture to The Association Library. initially related to the Quakers or to the name Bates, but William Bate/Bates from England to to an opportunity to live in a very old farmhouse 30 miles South of Dublin, reputed to have been lived in by Ireland to Newton Creek By Sandy Bates Quakers. Little else was known about the history of the place. As architects we were fascinated with the beautiful Up to this point we have discussed William of Hanover NJ. Originally, I thought this was my Line and DNA for yet austere appearance of the building and its attractive William of Newton Creek. However if we accept Tho- courtyard layout, and we were curious to put an accurate mas Bates of Wales being the father of William of Hano- date on the building of the farmstead. ver, then we have to look elsewhere for William of New- ton Creek. This means I have no DNA to establish my We contacted the Quaker Historical Library in Dublin, William of Newton Creek. A Rolland Bates took the initially in 1995 to help us find out more about Bally- DNA believing he was of the William of Newton line, murrin House in Wicklow. We made an appointment and however he matches the Henry/Nicholas Line out of CT. arrived to find a substantial pile of documents on the ta- So that lets me with no proven DNA Line for my Wil- ble, which we were invited to peruse. They included reg- liam. We know that William emigrated from England to Ireland and he was married to a Mary. He had family isters of all births, marriages and deaths in the Wicklow there and he was put in prison for his Quaker beliefs. After getting out, him and his family, except for a daugh- In This Issue ter; came to NJ settling at Newton Creek what is now known as the Cottonwood area. We will now look at Ire- Last Bulletin Sticker………………………...………. Front land and where William and his family lived. Officers Re-Elected………………... ………...……...Front The following is written by Philip Geoghegan of Ireland, Picture of Fern Bates………………...…………….... Front who now owns the homestead of William. We want to William Bate/Bates from England……………...…... Front give Philip a great Big Thank You for sharing this infor- William Bates and His Family……………………….Front mation and pictures with us. His web site is: William of Newton Creek……………………………...521 www.ballymurrin.ie/index.html. Here you will find more Obituaries …………………………………………….. 522 pictures and information. Volunteers & Trustees ……………………………….. 524 THE BATES ASSOCIATION FOUNDED IN 1907 The Bates Bulletin Page 514 area and a collection of records of meetings of Quakers. In summarising our findings here, we wish to allow the So started our adventure into researches which were well facts to shape understanding of the period in which Wil- outside our field of expertise as architects; genealogy and liam Bates and family made their brief appearance at history. Ballymurrin. To do justice to that, we have back dated Our interest initially was to pin down the date for the the story to establish from whom the first family settling building of Ballymurrin House on the site - we were able in Ballymurrin acquired title to the land. get close relatively easily, by drawing conclusions from the available information on births, marriages and deaths, and some of the descriptions in the old registers. We dis- covered documentary evidence that the farmstead had been lived in since 1668. As we proceeded, it was evi- dent that the period we were looking at, from the sixteen sixties to the sixteen eighties, was a tumultuous one, es- Ballymurrin Quaker Farmstead, set in its landscape context in pecially for religious groups like the Quakers, with per- County Wicklow, with Wicklow Mountains behind. secution and harassment motivating families to move from England to Ireland in search of a more peaceful and 1 Dunganstown Castle, and Sir John Hoey, Knight tolerant life. We don't have to travel far from Ballymurrin to under- However, that was not to be the case; their difficulties stand its origins. Ballymurrin is in the ancient parish of persisted and many long suffering Irish Quakers saw the Ennisboyne, with Dunganstown Castle and Church at its opportunity to make a second new life in America, espe- centre. This parish on the East Coast of Ireland, is where cially in New Jersey and Pennsylvania. William Penn St Patrick, according to tradition and scholarly place- had been 'convinced' and became a Quaker in Ireland, as name work, is reputed to have landed. He brought Chris- well as heir to the fortunes of his father, Admiral Sir tianity to Ireland in the year 430AD, one thousand and William Penn. The son's wealthy background and six hundred years ago generating from this church site Quaker commitment stimulated him to encourage Quak- the parish within which Ballymurrin is situated. ers to seek a new life based on a more liberal agenda and The castle was burned during the Catholic rebellion of a guarantee of religious freedom. 1641. The Protestant Hoey family rebuilt part of the cas- Meanwhile, back at Ballymurrin in the 1990s, we had tle and continued as a family in residence until 1850, a embarked on a ten-year program (optimistically) to re- tenure of over 250 years. Their legacy is the church at store the house and its outbuildings and to faithfully rep- Dunganstown and the ruins of both Castle and the great resent them as a rare example of self-effacing, plain, 17th house. century architecture. We are still working at it, nineteen The Ballymurrin lands, at the time of Cromwell's notori- years. Our reward is to live in a beautiful, simple house ous survey of Catholic lands in 1654 and subsequent with generous rooms in a stunning undulating landscape, confiscation, were owned by Sir William Parsons, a Lord close to the sea in the foothills of the Wicklow Justice, Protestant, who lived at Milltown about three 'Mountains'. In 2010, the buildings, very belatedly, were miles away. Sir John Hoey of Dunganstown married his designated as of being of national, historical, architec- daughter, Jane Parsons. Sometime between 1664 and tural and cultural interest by our Department of Arts, 1668, 223 acres of land, the townland of Heritage and Gaeltacht, after which we opened our doors 'Ballymooranbegg', (Ballymurrin Lower) was acquired to the public to show its unique architectural features to by the Quakers from those families. The first recorded the public for sixty days a year. date of Quakers' settling there is 1668.

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(This information is extracted from the book 'Credo', of the Sufferings of the People called Quakers” from about Dunganstown Parish, by Canon Robert Heavener, 1650 to 1689, published in 1753, and a book on “Tithes published in 1993 by Cromlech Books, Jordanstown, taken from Irish Quakers”. Ireland) Bates family information is informed from recent infor- mation found on “Roots Web's World Connect Project: the Fowler family. It is valuable as it offers approximate dates for the births of William and Mary's children. Wil- liam was born at different dates according to different searches, but between 1635 and 1640. His place of birth is elusive. There is consensus that he was born in Eng- land, and a case made in the Fowler family genealogy, which shows that one of William's daughters, Abigail, married Joshua Hearne from Hartington in Derbyshire, The ruined shell of mediaeval Dunganstown Castle, foreground, England, shortly after they arrived in New Jersey, sug- and early 1600s House, behind gesting that they may have known each others' families at an earlier time. It remains of course to prove this, but 2 The first family recorded to be living in Ballymurin it is a credible explanation as many of the Irish Quakers Quaker Farmstead arrived from counties in northern England. They were the Judds, Ambrose, born in Brandon Ferry, The Bates family is only recorded twice in the Wicklow Suffolk in SE England, and his wife, Jane (Eves), from Quaker Registers as living in Ballymurrin; when a son, Leicestershire in England's Midlands. In Ireland, at the Joseph, was born there in 1675; and when their eldest time of their marriage, she was living in Ballykeane, daughter, Elizabeth, (claimed to have been born in Ire- about five miles from Ballymurrin, and his parents were land in 1662), was married to Mark Eves, from Bally- living in Dunganstown. Their first born child, Robert cane, (Ballykeane today) a nearby Quaker house, the first was born at 'Ballymorenbeg' on 25th of February 1668. of many strong connections to Ballymurrin. That mar- This is the first recorded birth at Ballymurrin Lower, in riage was held in 1680 at Ballycane, shortly before Wil- the original register in the Quaker Historical Library. liam and the rest of the family were to embark in Dublin From the register we know, too, that Ambrose Judd “ for New Jersey. His children are recorded, from genea- husband of Ann Judd (she died in 1724) quietly departed logical research sources as follows, with their (birth this life at his own habitation in Ballymoran the 17th of dates: latest source Roots web's World Connect Project: the 1st month in 1726/7, in the 95th year of his age and Fowler) was buried at Friends Burying Place at Ballymorran”. William Bates, Born 1635, in England, Married to Mary They had nine children between 1668 and 1689. We Ball know from this that Ambrose lived in Ballymurrin (the Elizabeth, Born about 1662 in Ireland, married to Mark most recent spelling!) for 58 years, during which time Eves in 1680, at which time she lived at Ballymoran. She William Bates made his first appearance on the records. had six children, died in 1690. Mark remarried in 1692, 3 William Bates arrives on the scene, with the help of to Elizabeth Grundy and had a further NINE children. William Penn Jeremiah, about 1665, in County Wickloe, Ireland Abigail, Before 1666 in Ireland William Bates did indeed live at Ballymurrin Quaker Sarah, B 1671 in Wickloe Ireland Farmstead, yet it is difficult to find out a great deal more William, about 1672, in Wicklow Co Ireland about him and his family, except through the “Collection Joseph, B 23 Dec1675 at Ballymoran, County Wickloe

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Ireland (First Wicklow Quaker record of Bates family) and a Meeting was set up in that town and still continu- eth.” This is all very difficult to digest, but it leaves in ques- tion the birth dates shown above up to 1671, when there The Taking and Paying of Tithes is no evidence of his being in Wicklow as a Quaker. It Quakers had a conscientious objection to the payment of may be that he lived in the Wicklow area and became a tithes to the local representatives of the established Quaker only around 1671, or that he lived outside Wick- church, which they regarded as anti-christian. The Book low, perhaps in Dublin, and travelled around to make his of “Tythes taken from Irish Quakers, a Testimony living as master builder / carpenter. The Quaker records against taking and paying of Tythes” records the punish- are not all digitized in Ireland, but we shall follow up the ments and confiscations over a period of nearly forty issue in the Quaker Historical Library in Dublin. years from 1650 to 1689, when King William and Queen The following pieces of information are limited, but they Mary oversaw the enactment of the Act of Toleration, do give some sense of a committed man of integrity. He granted to Protestant Dissenters, which initiated a grad- attended the Wicklow Monthly meetings, as well as the ual change in the treatment of Quakers. constituent meetings at Ballymurrin and would have The frequent occasions when Tythes were extracted in been influenced by the strength of character of Thomas kind and by force continued until at least 1680; two ex- Trafford, who stood up to the harassment of the ‘so- amples here are quoted from the Wicklow Register of called Quakers’, then seen as a term of defamation. It Sufferings which involved William Bates directly and a cost him dearly, by imprisonment in the jail at Wick- further example of petty aggravation, a form of harass- low...He was already in jail - two years for non-payment ment which affected every Quaker. of tithes (taxes due to the established Anglican church),- when one of the first Wicklow monthly meetings was (1678), “ Mark Newby (who travelled to broken up and the participants imprisoned. with William) and William Bates had three carloads and a half of hay worth nine shillings forcibly taken from This extract from the Sufferings tells us that William them for ye use of Priest Stanton for tithe” Bates was in Wicklow in 1671. He was arrested along with eighteen other Quakers named “at a Meeting in the (1680)“ William Baite had taken from him, by David House of Thomas Trafford in Wicklow and committed to Willcock one spade and one pair of hand bellows worth Wicklow Gaol. At the following sessions they were in- four shillings for two shillings and six pence: demanded dicted, and on refusing to enter into Bonds to traverse the for the use aforesaid”. indictment, were all of them, except one, committed to (1680): Thomas Trafford is punished “...for opening his prison”. shop upon the twenty fifth day of the 12th month (called Another extract, from The Rise and Progress of People Christmas day) and was committed to prison by James Called Quakers records John Bank's visit from England Stanly, deputy sovereign and kept till night. As Quakers in 1671 which initiated the setting up of a Meeting disapproved of Christmas Day and its excesses, this ap- House in Wicklow: “...on his return to Dublin he went to pears to have been a small, but deliberate act of civil dis- Wicklow again, there being a letter from thence signify- obedience... ing that the people desired another Meeting, which, not The records of the sufferings of Quakers run to hundreds withstanding the opposition of the Priest, was held there of pages and two volumes and serve to explain the diffi- peaceably,...and although the Priest, as soon as he had cult lives and constant harassment by civil authority, and the opportunity, began to prosecute and imprison Friends the attraction for Quakers of emigration to a more liberal for Tythes, and such like things, and got several put into life in America. prison that came to visit that place, yet Truth prospered, William Bates was one of those who decided that Ireland

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had not fulfilled the promise of peaceful times antici- 4 William Bates in New Jersey pated from his home in England, and he took steps to The latter part of this extraordinary story will be known emigrate: to Bates Bulletin readers as it is this source which took During the decade of the 1670s, notable Quaker, William us into exploration of the life in New Jersey of William Penn, son of Admiral Sir William Penn was authorised to and his family, so well recorded in two books of the set up a haven in the New World for persecuted Quakers. nineteenth century, and clarified by the New Jersey State Before this he had been charged by his father to look Archives. However, I will reproduce some of the account after extensive lands and property in Cork County, Ire- of his colleague, Thomas Sharp, which relates their arri- land, during which time he became “convinced” and val in New Jersey and the subsequent choice of lands. I joined the Quakers, suffering imprisonment briefly, found it both poetic and exciting as it made it easy to which strengthened his resolve to seek a better life for imagine the huge significance of that arrival in a new Quakers. His father's connection with King and Court land and a new life. Many of you will have read this be- were a major factor in his achievements in the States of fore, but it is good to replay that arrival. New Jersey, Delaware, and Pennsylvania as it was to “ And, by the good providence of God we arrived in the become. Capes of Delaware the eighteenth day of November fol- The grant to his father of about 400,000 square miles of lowing, and so up the bay until we came to Elsenburg, land in America from King Charles II, in March 1681, and were landed with our goods and families at Salem, included the present State of Pennsylvania, parts of New where we abode the winter. But it being very favourable Jersey and Delaware. Not a small gift for favours re- weather and purchasing a boat amongst us, we had an ceived…all of which was confirmed by the King in an opportunity to make search up and down in that which is Indenture of 1682 which gave absolute ownership to called the Third Tenth which had been reserved for the twenty four proprietors altogether. proprietors dwelling in Ireland, where we might find a place suitable for so many of us to settle down together, In 1681, at much the same time, William Bates embarked being in these early times somewhat doubtful of the Indi- on his voyage to New Jersey, He had acquired a Certifi- ans, and at last pitched down by that which is now called cate of share in land for 250 acres in the Irish Tenth in Newton Creek, as the most invitingest place to settle 1677 from William Penn in Dublin. Robert Turner of down by, and then we went to Burlington, and made ap- Dublin also received deeds at that time. He became Wil- plication to the commissioners that we might have war- liam Penn's agent and fellow landowner in West Jersey. rants directed to Daniel Leeds, the Surveyor General, to In April 1681 his eldest daughter, Elizabeth produced a survey unto every of us so much land as by the constitu- granddaughter, Abigail, born at Ballintuskin (now Bal- tion at the time was allotted or a settlement, being five lyteskin, three miles from Ballymurrin) . Three months hundred acres or what we had a right to which accord- later, he received his Irish Certificate (that he was a suit- ingly we obtained... able Quaker for a new community), along with Mark Newby , County Wicklow, Ireland (originally written All which of us, excepting William Bates who took on incorrectly as Bellicare in Immigration of Irish Quakers) the southerly side of Newton Creek, we took our land in on the 21st June 1681. Equipped with his Certificate, one tract together for one thousand seven hundred and along with four other colleagues, William chartered a fifty acres, bounding in the forks of Newton Creek and ship from Dublin and set sail for New Jersey on the 19th over to Cooper's Creek…” September to arrive safely at Salem, New Jersey on the William Bates went on to have a distinguished position 18th November after a voyage of two months. And the as representative of the Third Tenth of West Jersey and rest, as they say, is history… acted as a public servant in planning the highways of the

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State. He is also thought to have built the first Meeting liberty of spirit. house -” There can be no doubt who planned and built References the first meeting house at Newton in 1684; who con- structed the plain unpretending galleries, in which sat the The assistance of the Quaker Historical Library was in- forefathers of this people…” (Sketches of the First Emi- valuable, especially Glynn Douglas. He has visited the grant Settlers in Newton Township) house as well as digitizing specially the Wicklow Quak- ers archive of Births, Marriages and Deaths, a major task William died in 1700 and was buried in Newton Friends' which has greatly facilitated the knowledge of who lived Burying Ground. I am not aware that his memorial tomb- where in the area around Ballymurrin. stone is still in existence, but I do have an image of the Place. Three books are of real value to better background: His story; the challenge of his life in difficult times; his Sketches of the First Emigrant Settlers in Newton Town- skills as a master builder; the will to stand up to harass- ship, John Clement, British Library Historical Print Edi- ment and imprisonment, the determination to find a ha- tions, British Library, 1877. ven for himself and his family; his family's befriending Immigration of the Irish Quakers into Pennsylvania, of the Indians; and his service in the administration and 1682-1750 : with their early history in Ireland (1902) government of New Jersey, have brought to life, for me Author: Myers, Albert Cook, 1874-1960 Publisher: and no doubt for others, the processes by which families Swarthmore, Pa. : The author struggled to achieve a lasting peace and a future, when A History of the Rise and Progress of the People Called the New World became a renewed focus for freedom and Quakers in Ireland, Thomas Wight, Cork, printed in Dublin,1751. An original copy of this book was given to us in 2012 by Ross and Robina Chapman of Newry in Northern Ireland, following their visit to Ballymurrin, as a gesture of great kindness and support for our work in Ballymurrin. We have a website, www.ballymurrin.ie for the Old Milking Parlour and one for the House, www.ballymurrinquakerfarmstead.eu 5 Ballymurrin House and The Burying Place at Bally- murrin Ballymurrin was home for William Bates and his family for at least a decade, from 1671 to 1681. When he ar- rived Ambrose and Anne Judd were living on the site, probably in a small cottage, which is still there, but ru- ined behind the main house. It is likely that it was Wil- liam who exercised his skills as a builder and architect, and worked for a number of years to craft a significant architectural piece, a beautifully proportioned house with Original map from 1700 showing William Bates' plot, No 2, at Newton generous rooms, not at all grandiose but simple and Creek, is superimposed on a recent Google Map which shows the position of his land relative to the and the Centre of Philadelphia. The “serviceable to truth” as Quakers would have wished. plot is approximately 4 miles South of the centre of Philadelphia, between Upon completion of the house there was room for at least the S. White Horse Turnpike and the S. Black Horse Turnpike

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three families; William, his wife and six children were in because they believed in equality of people and their occupation during their abode in Wicklow. spirit and did not agree with the trend for headstones to become ornate and grandiose. This constraint was Ballymurrin was a substantial farm of 223 acres, which dropped in the 1850s: the Pim family, prominent Quak- would have needed a number of people to work the land. ers at Ballymurrin in the eighteenth and nineteenth cen- It is still an undulating landscape little changed by mod- tury have four headstones in one corner of the burying ern development and recalling the character of its past ground. The place today is a walled rectangular area with use by its mature hedgerows of deciduous trees, oak, ash mown grass and trees around the edge, a place of quiet and beech, with hedges of holly, whitethorn, gorse, hazel and solitude. The burying ground was transferred into and brambles. The land is very good and the climate is ownership of the 'Society of People called Quakers' in benign, so there is good growing for cereals and grazing 1812 from the Pim family. for cattle. The farm probably began with what we call the cottage behind the main house, but within a decade it We have rescued the building named as Dairy in the cen- grew to include a five bay main house and a building sus. We are fairly sure that it contained a forge with a attached and linked to it which was a combination of massive chimney, still there. Two kitchens survive, both residential and agricultural accommodation. At some with walk-in chimneys and bread ovens to the side. We time, maybe fifty years later, a further two bays were use the loft upstairs as a studio, and the dairy is now in added to produce a dower cottage, a place for the widow habitable residential use, although with minimal changes. to live in as the next generation took over the running of The 3 cow houses listed were derelict when we arrived. the farm. This range of buildings in a straight line We converted them into our 'Old Milking Parlour', which stretched to about 160 feet in length, and 16ft deep, the we rent out to visitors as self catering accommodation. In depth of a single room. On either side and creating a rec- the renovation we were careful to retain the features and tangular courtyard, extended a cow shed on side and a character of the original building stable and cart shed on the other. The courtyard origi- nally was divided to incorporate a working yard on the The stables had an unfortunate event two winters ago cow shed side and a walled garden in front of the main when extreme rain affected the stability of the roof which house. There were several separate buildings behind the collapsed. We rebuilt that and have it dry, but unused; courtyard buildings, difficult to imagine all their uses but awaiting, perhaps its conversion to a Quaker Museum, the 1911 census identified the outbuildings uses as 13, where William Bates will be given a prominent place. and gave us this list: 1 stable, 1 coach house, 3 cow The garden surrounding the house, about one and a half houses, 2 calf houses, 1 dairy, 1 piggery, 1 fowl house, 1 acres, had an orchard to the rear and a walled garden at boiling house, 1 shed and 1 store. Some of the smaller the front. This is one of our future projects, to reestablish buildings are unroofed and derelict now, as the farm has the orchard and walled garden, but not for a while… been divided from the farmstead, where we live, and Come for the Gathering there is no longer agricultural activity in the buildings. This year has been called 'The Gathering' in Ireland. It is The farmstead had its own burying ground on the lands an invitation to all people who have Irish connections to and close to the house. This has great historical signifi- visit Ireland during 2013 to join in the celebrations. To cance, too, as many well known Quakers were buried any of the Bates Association who would like to join in, there including Elizabeth Eves, nee Bates, as well as the we do invite you to come and see us and maybe stay in parents and three of the children of the Judd family, first the Old Milking Parlour. We would also show you the residents of Ballymurrin. Although some 110 people are houses around and the Quaker village of Ballitore about buried there from the Wicklow area, there are only four 35 miles away in County Kildare. headstones. Quakers gave up using headstones in 1671, We feel very privileged to be the owners of a house so THE BATES ASSOCIATION FOUNDED IN 1907 The Bates Bulletin Page 520

redolent of its historical events. We are not Quakers, yet we have developed an insistent admiration for their com- mitment and their history in Ireland of acts of extreme generosity, especially during the great famine, which will never be forgotten. The reputation of the Quakers in our

immediate area is very good because they were willing to hide catholic priests during penal times and they pro- vided the land for the building of a Catholic chapel at the time of religious emancipation in 1830.

We love the house, its simplicity of design, whilst being proportioned so expertly, and its stunning immediate land- scape which is our daily view, and above all the sense of its The Quakers' Burying Place is a walled garden with a single gate. This view three hundred years of habitation and memories. is from inside and shows how the ground is without headstones although 110 Quakers from the Wicklow area are buried. There are four more recent Philip and Delphine Geoghegan headstones of the Pim family from the 19th century, when headstones were allowed, one of which catches the evening sun on the right. The Burying Place was laid out on the lands of Ballymurrin and first used in 1673, for Bridget Boardman an infant aged 2 years. Elizabeth Bates, William and Mary's eldest daughter died in 1690, and is buried here.

The two images below show the old milking parlour, converted to residential use in 2004, with before and after images.

Ballymurrin Quaker Farmstead from 1668, is seen from the courtyard. The main part of the house is on the right; the pink facade with five bays. To the left is a building, attached to the main building, with a residential part clos- est to the main building, one room up and one down. The wide and low doors are to accommodate animals, the middle one giving access to a forge with its large chimney. All the windows of this building were enlarged in the last century.

The ruins of the single storey cot- tage behind the house which may have been the first building on the site. The massive round stone wall is a gatepost to an originally covered but open area for carts. The rear of the Old Milking Parlour can be seen be- low the ruin. THE BATES ASSOCIATION FOUNDED IN 1907 THE BATES BULLETIN PAGE 521

WILLIAM OF NEWTON CREEK, CONT. By Sandy Bates The following write up is what I perceive this Line to be. Early writers like Clements and Lamb and Rolland Bates among others have put info out. Some I can agree with and some I just cannot make myself agree with. The big- gest confusion is with two Joseph Bates one dying 1731 and one 1734. The one in 1731 married to an Elizabeth is the one I strongly feel is in the line of William of New-

ton Creek. The one of 1734 married to Mercy Clements, I strongly believe is of the John of Long Island Line. During the past I feel these two were interchanged so much that wrong descendants were attached to each. I have studied all of the material for so many years now. I have decided to just finally put together, to the best of Above, and right: my knowledge; the info I have. Others may not agree Original features, the with me. I have tried repeatedly to find proof I need, stall divisions and and it is just so elusive. original bracing beams, have been John Clement wrote a letter to DS Lamb May 18, 1891 reained. The roof had in which he states the following: “I send you a correc- to be replaced, but tion in regard to Joseph Bates which may throw some retained the original sizing of rafters and light on the Bates. Found in an old deed after Clement’s th collars. Roof lights book was printed. Page 52 5 paragraph reads. This per- were used to allow son came from Long Island previous to his settlement light to penetrate with- here, as in some of deeds adjoining lands he is called out changing wall openings. Long Island Joseph Bates, doubtless to distinguish him from another of like name hereabouts and may throw some doubt on statement made of his being a son of Wil- liam of Newton. Records show death of 2 Joseph Bates, One d 1731 wife Elizabeth, children Abigail marr Sam- uel Lippincott, marr 1743 at Evesham meeting. Lived in Pilesgrove, Salem Co NJ. Joseph, Samuel, Joshua, Mercy, Elizabeth. Many of this branch still reside in this section in 1877. So I write the following, taking full responsibly for it’s content. 1. William Bate came from England to Ireland, date of arrival there not documented. In Quaker records his wife is listed as Mary, some say last name of Ball. They had the following children: 2. Elizabeth Bate b abt 1662 2. Jeremiah Bate b abt 1665. 2. Abigail Bate b abt 1666. 2. Sarah Bate b abt 1671. 2. William Bate b abt 1672. 2. Joseph Bate b 23 Dec 1675. (Continued on pg. 523) THE BATES ASSOCIATION FOUNDED IN 1907 The Bates Bulletin Page 522

Harold & President Sandy, lose their Granddaughter In the afternoon of Sunday, Jan 13th our Grand- daughter Megan Baril was a passenger in a car that went into a snow bank and then hit a telephone pole. Megan was knocked unconscious and never re- gained consciousness. She was put on life support. Monday morning at 11 am she was pronounced. She was hooked up again as she was an organ donor. It was agonizing days for the family, and they finally took her Tuesday night to harvest her organs. She spent several years of her life here on the farm.

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Association Members Bobby & Sue Funeral services will be held at 11:30 AM Saturday, March 9, 2013 in the chapel of Arrington Funeral Directors with Rev. Bates lose Dad, Arlo Bates Lonnie Sanders officiating. Entombment will follow in High- In the Summer 2009 Bulletin, front page we have a picture of land Memorial Gardens Mausoleum. Arlo, Bobby and also Arlo’s father Winfield. Then on page 351 begins their Family Line being the Francis of Ipswich The family will be receiving friends on Saturday, March 9, Line, which they have a double Line. Our prayers go out to 2013 from 10:00 AM until 11:30 AM at Arrington Funeral Bobby & Sue and their Family. Directors 148 W. University Parkway, (731)668-1111 www.arringtonfuneralgroup.com. Cemetery Highland Memorial Gardens 3360 N. Highland Ave. Jackson, TN 38305 (731)668-0370

1. William Bate was put into prison for his Quaker be- liefs. When he was released, he his wife Mary; and fam- Rev. Dan Bates, 88, died Wednesday March 6, 2013 at Jack- ily set sail from Dublin, Ireland 16 Sept 1681. Came in son Madison Co. General Hospital. He was born March 25, the pink “Ye Owners Adventure”. They arrived at the 1924 in Hillsdale, MI the son of the late Robert Bates and Cape of Del. 18 Nov 1681. Landed goods and family at Maude Fairbanks Bates. He graduated from Ben Franklin High Elsinburg. They stayed in Salem for the winter. When School in Cedar Rapids, IA in 1942; graduated from Union the weather was favorable they bought a boat and searched up and down for ye Third tenth of land reserved University with a BA in 1946 and from Southwestern Semi- for these dwelling in Ireland. Pitched by Newton Creek nary with a Master of Religious Education in 1948. He met his and made application for a settlement of 500 acres. Wil- future wife of 65 years Martha Frances Rainey at West Jack- liam Bate/Bates a twentieth on southerly side of Newton son Baptist Church in 1942 and they were married June 3, Creek. William took 250 acres and two years later an- 1945 at West Jackson by Dr. R.E. Guy. Dan began his career other 250. Also bought more lands, as he bequeathed 400 as Baptist Student Union Director at the University of Florida, acres to his son Joseph. In 1681 they held their first then Arkansas. He then served as Minister of Education in meeting of Old Gloucester Co. In 1684 William erected churches in Tennessee, Virginia, Mississippi and North Caro- the log meeting house, called Newton Quaker Meeting lina. He was a member of the Exchange Club since 1955 and House. William was a carpenter and a master builder. In received the Distinguished Staff Award from Union University 1817 this building burned. In 1683/4 William served in in 1988. Rev. Dan’s advice on how to live a happy life “Be State Legislature as a Representative from the Third, or active in church, Love your family and treat all people with Irish, Tenth District. William was appointed constable and a layer of highways in 1684. He followed an old In- respect.” dian Trail from Delaware River to Egg Harbor. This is He is survived by his son Robert Frank “Bobby” Bates and now known as the Black Horse Pike. At a Quarterly wife Sue Gilmore Bates of Wildersville, TN; a daughter Diane Friends meeting, held at New Salem, June 26, 1689 Wil- Deschenes and husband Paul of Jackson, TN; Two grandchil- liam was in attendance. At this meeting it was ordered, dren, Daniel and Anna Marie Deschenes of Jackson, TN and that William attend the yearly meeting; being held at several nieces and nephews. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. At the Salem meeting of, June 25, 1690; William was one of the executors of one He was preceded in death by his wife Martha Frances (Rainey) John White. From the Burlington Court Book dated 1684 Bates, grandson Gabriel Bates, brothers Erwin E., Austin F. appeared William Bates to give account of lands in his both of MI and sister Vera L. Martin of IN. possession 260 acres, an undivided parte and hath noe parte of Towne bounds. Memorials may be directed to the Carl Pekins Center Center for the Prevention of Child Abuse, P.O. Box 447 Jackson, TN In the Old Newton Friends Burial Ground rests the re- 38302. mains of William, along with others. (To be continued in next issue…) THE BATES ASSOCIATION FOUNDED IN 1907

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