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No.1.

JHNUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS

OF THE

• LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL.

THURSDAY, 3 NOYE]fBER, 1927.

1. OP,ENING 010' PAULIAl'[ENT:-Thc Council met at haH-past Ten o'clock, a.m., pUl'su-ant to Proclamation of His Excellency the Goyernor, which was read by the Clerk of the Pmliaments, by direction of the President, as follows:-

"NEW SOU'l'H WALES,} ProclamatioI!: by His Excellency Sir DUDLEY RAWSO:::-l" "to wit. STRATIWUD DE CHAIR, in the , Knight " (L.S.) Oommander of the, liast Honourable , "D. R. S. DE OHAm, l.iember of the ROYH} Victoria Order, Governor of the GovernOl'. State of New South vVales and its Dependencies, in the Commonwealth of Australia. "IN pursuance of the vowel' and ,authority vested in me as such Governor a£ore~ U said by virtue of an Act pa..ssed in the second year of the Reign of His laie "Majesty King Edward the Seventh, being 'An Act to consolidate the Act~ '" relntinp: to thf' Con:-;titution,' I do hereby pl'odaim that a session of the Lcgis­ "lative- Council and I,~gislative A-ssembly for the State of New South 'ValeSi for "the dh;patch of business shall commence and be holden on ThurEday, the third "day of Novc!:ilher, at 10.30 o'clock in t11C forenoon, '-in the htiildinglSi kno'wn as "the Legislative Oouncil Chambers, in J\1acqnarie-street, in the City of Sydney; "and Members of the said Legislative Council and Legislathre Assembly, respe(:~ "tively, are hel'eby required to_ give their attendance at the said time and place " accordingly. "Given under my hand and seal, at Sydney, this twenty-eig'hth day of "October, in the year of Our Lord one thousand 'nine hundred and "twenty-seven, and in the eighteenth yCUl' of His Majesty's Reign. "By His Excellency's Command, "T. R. BAVIN. "GOD SAVE THE KING!" ]/embers present:- The Honotable Wi~lia.m Ainsworth, the ,Honorable Gm·i Adrian Akhurst, F.I.I.S., the Honorable Francis' IStewm~t Boyce, B.A., LL.B., R.C., (Attorney~Genel'al and Vice~President of -the Executive Council)" the' ·Honol'able Sir Henry Yule Braddon, K.B.:E., the HonOl'3:ble William Brennan, the. Honorable Oharles' Brill Bridges, the Honorable. J?rnncls Henry Bryant, The Honorable Nicholas James Buzacott, the Honorable 'Villiam Carey, the I-Ionoralble- Joseph Farrar Coates, the Honorable James :MattJhew Concannon, the IIonorahle Lawrence Cotter, the Honorable Sir Edward Owen Cox, G.B.E., the IIonorable John IDldred Creed, lLR.C.S., E., the Honorable Rolhert 'Vaugh -Cruicksha:ql{, the Honomble John Oulbert, the Honorable William Thoma~ Dick, B.A., the Honor.. b~e Thomas Partrick Doyle, the Honoralble John Gibson Farleigh, the Honorab{e Ernest Henry Fal'l'ar (Minister :for Labour and Industry), the Honol'~ able Frederick Flowers (President), the Honorable John Hepher, the Honorable John Fortunatus Higgins; the ·Honoreble Henry Edwin Horne, the Honorable :Alfred Edgar Hunt, the Honorable Sidney Reginald Innes-Noad, the Honorable .46123 lmru'FEB OF THE PROCEEDINGS- QF ~i" :t.EGl~LATJVE COuNOIIj, - - - - "- ~ " (3 November, 1927.) ------~------:Edward John Kavanagl1, the Honorable William Patrick Kelly, the Honorable 'Villiam Fleming" Latimer, Major-G~eral the Honomblc J ames Alexandel.~ Kenneth Mackay, C.B., V.D., O.B.E., ihe Honorable James Mark [Minahan, the. lIonorable Thomas George Murray, .the Honorable Broughton Barnabas O'Conor,. LL.B., Professor the Honorable j ollu' j3-evel'ley Peden, LL.B., R.O., the Honorable John \Y~i~!3tte~d .. f. e.r.c~V'~l,., t."?~, I-Ipnql~~:ple: ;r~.mes, ~:rl}:tt' ~~l:?norary. Mi~ster), tho Honorabl'e LIOnel William Ryan, tlie Hono~abre' And,ew Smolan, the ~IIonorabi~ "Thomas" Januarius Smith, the I-Ionorable F·rank William Spicer,. the Honorable John Bligh Suttor, l\f.Am.I.E.E., A.M.I.E. (Aust.), the Honorable "'Sir Allen Arthur Taylor, Kt., the HonoraJble John Travers, the Honorable George I-Ienry Gisborne Varley, 1:b:e~'Ho'noraibJe Thomas .Waddell, the Honorable Allbert Oharles Willis, the Honorable John Henry IWise, the Honorable George \Vrench, the Honoralble Arthur 1,Villiam Yager.- MeiiiDiifs ii/;$enfi~ Tl[& :B:(mo'~a"bie- Anthony Alexand'e-l' Alain, The Honorable George Stacher Archer, 1'hl} Honorable James Ashton, The Honorable: George Black, 'The Hon­ OJ.1uble Heginald James Black, the Honorable ~Villiam Brooks, the I:Iono['wble Joseph Alexander Browne, LL.B., K.C., The Honorruble Sir Joseph Hector Oarl'luthers, ICO.M.G., LL.D., The Honorable ltfichael Joseph ,Cbnnington, The Honol'ftble George Alexander Dewar, The Honorable ~:Villiam Edward Dickson, The Honol'alble Henry I}\IHrHn Doyle, L.R.C.P., Lon., L.S.A_, Lon., lti.R.O.S., E., The I-Ionol'alble George Erederick .Earp, O.B'-E:., The Honorable John Estell, The Honorable Robert Ge~rgjOl Dund~s ]?itzGerald, The Honorable. Edward Grayndlel', The Honorable ,Simaii Hi"liey, Thefihno~able J :riDes Edward Hoad, The Honor­ < '<1,~IE Tho~q§ :p,~ugla~ Percy J:lol~'e:p., r.-4~ ,Hqn91'qble iSh 1-'hbma'f? Rughes, E:t., The Ilol1oi-uold 'N 01:1uan, V/ilh~in" liatea', M.B., Oh.M.~ the Honorable j ohlll Keegan, Th~ i-tbii6rabi~ ',r'ClhiJ. "tan~ :M:iiilins, ':M.A., l'he "Honorabl(}' i&me$ :b~nis Lyons, Major- T}i~ Itono~abie' J'a~es ,William Macal'thur.. onsiow, _B.A" LL~B., V.p., The Honorable Edward Orawford Magi'i,lh; The ·HOn6i'aJ}!e' Robert M~o!iY, The. Hohora],l. Daniel Malone, A.M.l.E.· (Aust.); ~h~" Honoral>l. Qedrg~ _Roy: ,\Villiam McDonald, The HOhorable Patrick Mi'cbuel ¥~Girr, 'The H'onoi'a,ble HugilL Donald'MHntosh, The HOliorable Sir Al:Ft'ed WiHi'!"iM:eeks, :K.B.E., 'l'he. Holio,ra'bl. James .Ahderson ~rurdoch, O.M.G" 'Dhe Honor,,]'le Oharles William Oakes, C.M.G., "the Hllfiotahle John F"aneis O'Regan, The HOlloe,able nobed Pillans, The Hono~ahle WilHam :f.l1ibtt Veitch Robson, BA., T~l" lTopo~able ThomaS MitehflI Shakespeare, Tb,e Honorable Duncall Mlalcolm S;\1.ith, M.A, he ilonorable Sit' ,To.Y!lton Smitli, K.B.E.,Tiw HOhora!;le Robert .Sl~,~·~~lre,,}t~~," :~I:.,~., The Iipno~'!1bl~ r+l101U~ StOl'~Y, mhe H'Olloi-able Arthur ~r~WJ: T:~·~thowun, l,'h~ Tronora~].e: ~h9}n~S J'~:ples, TY~'r"en, The HOli.Ql:able Frank :llJgar 'Yall., M.D., The. Honorable Winter David 'lVal'den, The Honorable John io/~J~e.l\SJ??9n. ",

2. C6~ulIS~ON" 'ro _OP.EN PAiiLIA:MEN'l':-Tille. President aeqnaillted the Ho'Use that His '-- -·Exc'eiieilCY tl{e -Goverhor, not deeming it n1: -to ,b~ per;;~QnQily pr€sen~ hero Ithis dilY., had been pleased to cause a Coinmission to lbe issued ·und~.r.· th~' fUiblic Seal ¢ the, ~tat,e, I~ppo~n~ing the r-:I;onora~1e ::re9..eri~k ~10,w~;rs" P~~~~el~t of the :Eeg1s1f\itlve pouncil, th~ Honorable F_rnnGls St~\\Ta.l't Boy-c"e, B_4., LL.B., K.C., Attorp:eY~G~·~~{;~t, Vlc'e-:Prcsld~nt ,-of Hle_~xec.nf~V~ 'CoMe!l' ~nCl Representative 6£ 'tEe Gove,Eiirntent in the Le~is1atrve 'Co'uncil, and th~ ,Hdliorable Broughton Barn~alhas O~Con6I:, LL.B., ChrtIima:n -of Committees of the Legislative Council, ~~lliwi~iouers, in order to the opening and holding of this Parliament-. The Commissioners being sea'ted, one -on the riglit ',rin.d the other on the left of the Ohair, the President dirooted the Usher of the to ·'W President. ~he -Wes'ident said,- ii:EJ'onol'~b1e GentIeinen of the LegislwtiveOolin~il 'aM 'Gcni1emen of the '::~~i~1~tl*e A~~eillib1y:- ' . ' ., ")~P~_ Ex~el:len,cry the Gov~i-nol', not 'deeming it :fit. 'to ~'lie 1.lei'S'Op-ttllY PrElse'rit here ~'.~;q.i.s.. d~,:Y-, ~~ad, beeJ;l"pl~ea to 'can-se a 'Co:trln:tission to ·15b iss~ica; \t.IiQ..~i· ilic"-Pnlblic .~~~~:~ O:~. 'I;pary ~'·~9"'"-4.~--p~~form~_9. -by 'the Govel'nor 'i,n "'the'"~_alne 'an,dl.on-'t'Jie i)[il-t -Q?'J;!is ¥ajesty ~~.!:4,~~~J;lg" or ~~,tl:I_e tiii:IDe ana "on-~ihe 1Jlll't of If:i~ ~:XCellefi~yihe, "Gove~or of ,'-'- t1tE?:~S-~I!~' i.:o. -ord_~;r, to _the openil;lg' -a~d 'lloldh:ig of this -pa-:afameitt,.:.to a~livel' :' a Message to the Le.gislat~ve Assembly, and to do all such other t~s:'as may "-·be specially necessary to enable Parliament to perform Acts ~hidli: admit of

"~o delay, fu3 will more fuNy appeal' by the Oommission itse1:F.1 which must now

II "h:e :read." " I ..."'~L..I __ _ >UlItl.mI OF TiiE P~qdE~.DING~ OF TEE ~!'GI~LATIVE COUNOIL. {~ i,Tgyol/l7)ei', 1927.}"

Wll~r~l!pp~ tjle Qle"I{jI~y 9i~~ction of the )?resigent, read tllS $aijl O(J't!1lUission, ~.~ f.Q/l9JVS.=

I' fJei),'Uc thc Fifth, by the Grace of God, of (heat Brit1Jiin, Ireland, qnd the ." B"itish Do,,,inions bl31/ond the Seas, King, Defender of the ,Faith, 'Emperor of

u Ini/ip,. '" 'I " !fit ~ll to whom th.. " pri'61ls1;!Wti6iIl piilgl~lm in'lt 11 8j).'l(S19i!1'i ille ~isMiy~ !P9lW'!ilJ\lld Legis­ ,i Ialiv~ &kil!ieml;!~.!'!iii~titt\tp; JIGlden on f' Xhu1'I!d1W. tile th!\~ !l~Y 'Of '/1nvllDl»er: -!l-M wliW'e3~, WI; ~e!~ l'1l\I''''', Our ~ saia (tol>-etft!lt e411I).ot <;0#V'e"ienI1j jJ~ jJre(l~!it)!i JJiiliSqll_lIttho .~mllll' "f the IIsah! jileisloil., ~ilW lI:i:ww ye, #l4i lye:, ~l'llsti!lgm tlJ Legis­ " ibti,,1l ~goo>,lllily-, ~{l Wg gb~!l such otlJ~r l:!\iWl-s 1\8 mJIY' i)e.!I1J(lCi8llY atOO~OOl'11s til In(llit ~~iie, find I' llrau@htoli Il.~.n~:1;'s {li,Oonor, 6r allY tw

"':W:;'\40$S 94x !ti'qllly anq WfU-be1oved Si~ DtillL'EY RA'lVSbN Sriwi'r.@l' DE '~-On,,!!\-, 4MIiioa! '" Q-\l,r !loy,,! Nav.y., RRigi",t i(]iomi!ra'P:ge~ tJ'i: t'lj"l{ost "H6fiblirable Order of the Bath, Member 'df the Royal Victol'i'~n OI'der, ":Gov~t:I\or o~ OUr.'jta¥l of :N,".w,:flQJIt/l: ;W"'-1iS a~di" DellOji~encies in "the c,,'mmollw!?alth of AustralIa, at Sydney, mN'ew Si>til!.t Wales, " afores~id, ~h\s ~coI\<~ 4"y o~ NovW'1>e~, ~l1the _~. oc Oai' Lord one "th"ji.~hd niile hundred and tl\'~r~~'fi.1>.i ,,~ iii th@ icdJw,C/(" ff~ J Cl-"""-""'''',*'''8ik:!

" Honora/hie Gentlemen of the Legisla~ive Qou"l'ii, al;lJ/, GCIat~ .of £hi> Legis- "lative AssW"WY,~ - ,

'-' We have it in Icommand irom the GovernC?l' tq. ~et yo.u lrp,oW~,-r-~t"aftel'

"Members of the r~\sIative 1\SS!'llP.iy shall have ·b~ swo"nJ ~;he ~uses of "His ExcelLency c~lli:ni this.P",,~ia;i)Ient '",.ill be dec1,.""ato~o:ii..;-"Ala ~t being " necessary that a Speakei' of the Legislative Assembly 'l>~ :fu'st ~h.*i;i, i

3. CO:\UUSSTON 'TO Am.mnSTER 'rUE O.,\T1-T:-The President )lflving then produced n Oo.mmission, cQnstituting himsel£ an(l o.ther Members o.f the Council therein named Commissio.ners to administer the Oath }'equired by law to. be taken by Members o.f the Council. The said Commi?sion WfI?, by clhection of the President, renn by the CI~rk, as fol1owR:- "By His Excellency Sir DUDLEY RAWSo.N ISTRATFORD DE OHAIR, Ad1ni1'al in the "Royal Navy, Knight Oommandor of the 1I108t Honourable O"do'/' of the "Balill., 1liemb'el' .of the Royal l'icto1'-ian 01'del', Govern01' .of the State of. "New South JWales and its Dep'endencies, in -the Commonwealth of " A '/.l$t1'alia. ' "To all to whom these presents shall come,- " Greeting,' ~'-IN pursuance of tJhe authority in me vested in th:at behalf, I, Sir DUDJ.EY "RAWSON ,sTRATI"ORD DE CUAIR, as Govel'nor o.f the 8tate of New South Wales, "do with the advice of the Executive Council thereof, hereby authorize the "H~nourt1hle Fredenick Flowers, President of the Legislative Council of the "slaid State, the Honourable Francis Stewart ~yce-, Attorney-Ge.neral, and "Vice-P:resident of the Executive Council, and the I-Ionoumble Brougllton "Barna!bas O'Oouor, Members of the said T;egislntive Council, 01' anyone 01' "more of them, to a:dnninister, to all or any Members 01' Member 0:£ the said "Legislative Council, the Oath or Affirmation of Allegi'ance to His Majesty "the KiQ!g, ~required by law to be taken or made and subscribed by every such "Membe; before he shall be permitted to sit or vote in the said I:.egisl::tJtive " Council. "Given under my 'hand and the Public Seal of the State, at Sydney, in the "State of New l~outh Wales aforesaid, this second day of Novemiber, " dn the year of our Lo.rd one thons'and nine hundred and twenty-seven, "laud in the eighteenth year o.f the Reign of His M·ajesty King George "the Fi£th. . "D. R. S. DE OHAIR, " Governor.

t( By His Excellency's Oommand, "T. R. BATIN."

4. LEAVE 010' ABSENOE ffO :M'KMBERs:-The President announced to the_House the receipt of. communications from His Excellency the Go.vernor, dated respectively 10th, 11th, 16th and 28th J\fay, 1927, and 5th July, 1927, intimating that leave of absence had been granted to,-The. Ilonorable II. D. McIntosh for 'six "months from 26th April, 1927; the Honoraible .sir Alfred 'V. Meeks for nhie months from 11th May, 1927; the Ifonorable Sir-Jo.seph Carruthers for four mo.nths from 1st June, 19'27; the Honorable E. H. Farrar from 26th May to 31st August, 1927; and the ,Ho.no.rable Henry Martin Doyle, L.R~C.P., for five months from 1st A.ugust, 19Z7. .

5. ~fINISTE[uAJ~ STA'rE~mNT-N]~w AIHIINISTRATION:-J\fr. Boyce acquainted the House that, sin-ce the Prorogation o.f the last Parliament, Mr. Bavin had accepted the office of Premier, rendered vacant by t,he resignation of Mr. Lang, with the following Administration:- rl~he IHo.noralble ThomaB Uain}3ford Bavin, R.O., M.D.A., Premic}, and Colonial Treasurer, The l-Iollo.rable ·Ernest Albert Buttenshaw, M.L.A., Secretary for Pu1blic "\V orks and Minister. for Railways, The Honorruhle ALbert Bruntnell, M.L.A., Colo.nial Secretary, ,The Ho.llo.ralbl~:R~cl~ard Thomas Ball, M.L.A., Minister for Lands, , The .Honorable Harold Victor Oampbell Thorby, M.L,A., Minister for - Ag'l'iculture, The Hono.rable David -Henry Drummond, If.L.A., JHinister for Education, The 'HOI~:o:rable Michael Frederick Bru~mel', D.'S.O. M.L.A., Minister for ;. Local- Government, The Honorable Francis Allgustus Chaffey, M.I~.A., .secretary for Mines and ::Minister for Forests, . The Ho.norable John Robert Lee, :M.L.A., Minister of J.usti-ce, The Honorable Ernest Henry Farrar, M.L.C., Minister for Labour and Industry, The Honora'ble Ridhard Arthur, M.D., J\LL.A., Minister for Public Health, The Honorable Bertram Sydney Barnsdale Stevens,' lvLL.A., -Assistant Colonial Treasurer, _ " - ., The Honorable James Ryan, 1\f.L.C., Honorary J\{inister, And that in,that Administration I have ·been appointed Attol'l1ey~Gellel'al, Vice-President of the Executive .council, and Representative of the Govern­ ment in the Legislative Council. 5 )!INU1'ES OF THE PROOEEDINGS OF THE JJEGISLA'flVE COUNCIL. :<& !V.ovBmoBr, 1927.>:

.6. ADJOURNMENT :-Oli motion of Mr. Boyce, the House adjourned until half past f EZ~'I)e'!k 0'c.lock3. a.rn.~ to-morrow! W. ri. S, OOOPER, Clarki 9£ :I!h~ ;I;'~g8!l!E>ll:ts.

OF QUESTIONS .AND MOTIONS .AND ORDERS OF THE D.AY,

~RIDA1:", ~ NOVEMBER.. 19~7'. -, -:1 [MEMol-T/ie House mee~ TM~ 'Day a,t /ialf-past Eleven Q'Qlo~li, a.!".}