iBila S«rlM, VoL Wednwday, December 7,1977 Sixth Series, Vol.VIII, No.16 Agrahayana itf, 1899 (Saka)

DEBATES

(Third Scadon)

(Ftf/. VIII contaim Not, n -^ 20 )

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N o. 16 , Wednesday, December 7, J^yyjAgrahayana, 16 , 1899 {Saka)

C o l u mn s

Oral Answers to Questions :

♦Starred Questions Nos. 306 to 313 .... I—28

Written Answers to Questions:

Starred Questions Nos. 305 and 314 to 325 . . . 28—39

Unstarred Questions Nos. 2869, 2870, 2872 to 2902, 2904 to 2988, 2990 to 3003, 3005 to 3035, 3037 to 3065, 3067 and 3068 . 39—211

Papers laid on the Table ...... 2 11— 15

Public Accounts Committee—

P'irst R e p o r t ...... 215

Committee on Private Members’ Bill and Resolutions—

Ninth R e p o r t ...... 215

Committee on Petitions—

I'irst Report . ... . 215

Petition re. Demands of Railwaymcn .... . 219— 17

Re. Questions of Privilege—

(i) Certain remarks by Shri Madhn Limaye about the Speaker of I'ifth Lok Sabha ...... 218— 19

(ii) Alleged Inquiry by the about Proclama- tion of Emergency ...... 219—22

(iii) Heme Minister’s statement on A IR and T V about Sabotage cases ...... 222

(iv) Alleged misleading statement by Minister o f State in the Ministry of Agriculture and Irrigation on 24- 11-77 . . 222—24

♦The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor o f the House by that Member. (ii)

C o l u m n s

Matters under Rule 377—

(i) Flouting of Safety Rules in certain Private Coal Mines o f B i h a r ...... 224—25

(ii) Grievances o f R ailw aym en...... 225—^28

(iii) Strike in Scindia Steam Navigation Company . . . 228—31

(iv) Closi^re of Univsrsities and C^llegci due to student uirest . 2 3 1—33

Payment o f Bonus (Amendment) Bill—

Motion to consider—

Shri Saugata R o y ...... 233—37

Shrimati Ahilaya P. Rangnekar ...... 237—45

Shri Prasannbhai M e h t a ...... 245—^48

Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan ...... 248—52

Shri Uggrasen ...... 252—56

Shri C. M. Stephen ...... 256—63

Shri K. Mayathevar . . . . ; . . 263—65

Shri Chitta Basu ...... 265—66

Shri Manohar Lai ...... 266—67

Shri Vasant Sathe ...... 267— 6S

Shri Harikesh B a h a d u r ...... 268

Shri Ravindra Varma ...... 268—74

M otion re. Steps for removal of economic backwardness of four districts o f Eastern Uttar P ra d e s h ...... 274—357

Shri Yadvendra Dutt ...... 274—90

Shri M. V. Krishnappa ...... 291—94

Shri Harikesh B a h a d u r ...... 294— 97

Shri Brij Bhushan T i w a r i ...... 297—302

Shri Ram Sagar ...... 302—306

Shri Ram Dhari Shastri ...... 307— **

Shri Vasant S a t h e ...... 3 i i — 16 (Hi) '

Co l u mn s

Shri Rudra Sen Chaudhury . . . . . 3 16 ^ 19

Shri U g g r a s e n ...... 319—28

Shri K. L ak k appa ...... 331—35

Shri D. N. Tiwary ...... 335—38

Shri Gauri Shankar Rai ...... 338—46

Shri Ram Naresh Kushwaha ...... 346— 53

Shri Om Prakash Tyagi ...... 353—57

Half an-hour discussion—

Flood situation in the country—

Shri Prasannbhai Mehta ...... 357—61

Shri Chitta B a s u ...... 362—63

Shri Surjit Singh Barnala ...... 363—70 LOK SABHA DEBATES

I 2 LOK SABHA the Table of the Sabha. ' [Placed in Library. See No. LT-1289/77],

Power cuts/resetrictions were lifted Wednesday, December 7, 1977/ in the States of Punjab, Haryana and Agrahayanx 16, 1899 (Saka) Rajasthan in September/October, 1977.

The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the While there are some restrictions Clock on power supply to rural areas in Uttar PraJesh and Madhya Pradesh, [M r . S p e a k e r in the Chair] there are no reports of power shor- tage.s for the current Rabi crops from ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS any State.

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period the power may not be avail- a few hours when there is peaking able. That is why we have got what difficulty. is called the rostering system and group system. Power is supplied to TTO rre»ft JTTTTm t f( 5 ^ the agricultural sector and small- ?n ^ rnf: uPdiild scale industries also. ^ f t I I MR. SPEAKER: You have given STo HTTnm TtiJJ : the information.

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categories of industries. Essential are controlled by the DVC, as far as services, power and irrigation projects Chandrapura is concerned no senior under construction and irrigation official or engineer from DVC was pump sets are exempted from power present when they visited the point. cuts. So, may I know from the hon. Also kindly let us know what is Minister whether, in this context, the happening to the thermal power Karnataka Government has requested station in Farakka. What is the cost for thermal or hydel power projects of the project? being exempted from the cuts and, if so, what are the projects there; SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: With secondly, I also want to know whe- regard to the first part of the ques- their the ad hoc arrangement that is tion, I am not aware of any groups made is to compensate the power cut. among the technocrats or administra- tors. The import of gas turbine is SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: As under active consideration of the far as Karnataka is concerned, it is Government and a decision will be true that there is .some difficulty with taken as early as possible. With re- regard to availability of power. That gard to the details about the visit of is why some power from Kerala is the British Engineers, I do not have drawn and some power from Tamil any information at the moment be- Nadu is drawn and supplied to Kar- cause this is a question which is Q nataka. Until the Kalanadi Project is surprise to me. With regard to the commissioned in 1979, there may be Farakka thermal Station, it is under power shortage in Karnataka. Apart process. I think I had told you about from that for the thermal power this earlier in this House. That Is stations, some project reports have under consideration. As soon as the been received recently and they are techno-economic process is completed, under examination. T hey are some- it will be placed before the Cabinet where near Hospet and Raichur. The for the investment decision. establishment of a thermal station is in process. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: How much time will it take?

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Sir, SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: It the statement given by the hon. Minis- wiil take another couple of months. ter in fact, I am afraid and I regret to say, is a gross understatement of the situation. There is a serious power crisis in many States including West Bengal. In liiat connection, I would ^ w t I like to know whether it is a fact that with refiard to the purchase of gas t % ^srPTTT =?TfrrT ^ ^ turbines, there are two groups of bureaucrats and technocratc sharply divided? They are fighting against I ft: TTW n ^ eacli other because they are led by ^ firw I I politicians and that is why causing IWiTTrf % Tr «fi- delay in finalisation of the purchase of the gas turbines. Is it also a fact snfV cfw: 1%^ ii fsRRr ^ ^ that a team of British Experts came 'jfV gTJ Tft from G.E.C. about 10 days ago with the object of rectifying some defects I I t f it and in our contact there had been ^ ^ ^ t ? coaxial vibration which had been laid upto 15 megawatt only against SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: As the built in capacity of 120 megawatt far as is concerned, there is .capacity? During their visit to adequate installed capacity. Be- Chandrapura and Santhaldi is which cause of the forced outages of some 7 Oral Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Oral Answers 8

of the units, the availability is very to the growth of certain cottage in- much below and then there is of dustries. That does not mean that course the load shedding going on in other village industries are not being Bihar at times and even for this, so encoiuragH. far, we have not raceived any com- plaints from the State Electricity SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN; Has it Board or the Government and that is come to the notice of the Minister that why we do not have any information big and small scale industrialists have about that. ventured to take up schemes and pro- jects under this scheme to evade taxation? Ambitious Targets to provide more Jobs by thA Khadi and Village Indus- SHRI ; No tries Commission such case has been brought to my notice. •307. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased SHRI V. ARUNACHALAM: Under to state: the half million job scheme, training was given to candidates in Khadi (a) whether the Khadi and Village board in Tamil Nadu but so far they Industries Commission has set ambi- have not been absorbed in any place. tious targets and propose to provide Will the Government give instruc- jobs to more persons this year; and tions to Khadi Commission to absorb those trainees at least in future? (b) if so. the details regarding the plan and whether the people living in SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: It the rural areas have also been given is for the state board to pursue this preference in this plan? matter. I will ask the commission to take it up imemdiately with them. I THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY will also take it up with the state (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES); (a) board. and (b). A statement is laid on the Table of the House. [Placed in Lib- rary. See No. LT-1290/77]. Iff f SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN; Sir, it has % iPxHTW ^'T jfFiFrT ^ % been reported in the Press that the Khadi and Villa.ge Industries Com- mission has recently recognised stone- ir cutting, grinding and polishing as one srftTSTur ^rr | of the items. Now, how is it that, in Jsrt^^r ^ I ^ i=T^ ? spite of the recognition given by the KVIC to this stone-cutting activity has not been included for giving 3TT3T : grft- special emphasis to the development of q m W 3ft +IHH.M ?TTT ^ ^ seven specified village industries, namely. Processing of Cereals and I, wri\ I w r % w ? : Pulses, Village Oil. Village Leather, it ^ ^1^ I, ^ % Village Pottery, Blacksmithy and Carpentry, Non-edible oils and soap g 'li % TTTsinT ^ t I 700 and Cane gur and khandsari? How I, ^ is it lhat stone-cutting has not been srm ir ?nt 1 included under this? TT^iff % I , IT srftrem ^ ^ SHF I GEORGE FERNANDES: All It 5ft 7 00 I ^ that has been stated in the statement is that special emphasis is being given % iTTfJFr ^ ^ I Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers lo

jfft 5fk ^ ^ SHRI HITENDRA DESAI: I would like to know the statewise break up I ?fhc ?TRTT I ^ ^ of employment of persons and I ?rf^ ^ % f5T?fr ^ T ^ would also like to know, what are the daily earnings of persons employ- ed in Khadi a'.id Village Industries. ^srrf^ I SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: The SHRIMATI V. JEYALAKSHMI: daily earnings vary from one type of Whether the hon. Minister is aware khadi to another, from one type of that under the Khadi and Village charka to another and from one type Industries Commission some small of loom to another. It varies from scale industries and some big manu- Rs. 2.50 to Rs. 10 per day. In the facturing units have fragmented their Village industries also, it varies fromi factories into small units and they Rs. 2.50 to Rs 10 per day. had applied for registration under the Khadi and Village Industries Commission to enjoy concessions in Substitute for MISA central excise? If so, what steps are + being taken against them? *;J08. DR HENRY AUSTIN: SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES; I SHRI HUKAM CHAND am not aware of any such activities KACHWAI: on the part of any small scale indus- trialist. If they are brought to my Will the Minister of HOME AF- notice we will take immediate action.. FAIRS be pleased to state; (InterruptionK) (a) whether it is a fact that Gov- ornment are considering to have a MR. SPEAKER: He says he does softer substitute for MISA; not know. You can bring them to his notice; you can write to him and (b) if so, the main details of the he will look into the matter. proposed new MISA; (c) whether the States will be ask- sft ^ ed to replace the Ordinances which I 551^ WTifhTPT % they have recently issued. f: ffcTTH ^ % (d) whether it is also a fact that ^ ?fk some States have written to the Union Government that in the absence of ^ TT f T TfF t ? ^ 7^ MISA, it is very difficult to control % STTT the law and order situation in those States; and I, ^ T?: fw ^ ^ ^ ^ I, «ft ^3fP=RTTt (e) if so, which are the States that have asked and measures suggested to ^qr Tiwi- ^ ^'T I ? them?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS ^ ffrrra" ^ I, ^ srp m ft (SHRI DHANIK LAL MANDAL): ^ I ^ (a) and (b). The repeal of MISA and other related matters are under ^ ^ I, ?RT examination in the light of the policy I ?nn: ftRft enunciated in the address of the Vice President acting as President to both % ^ ^ =h i Oh t, Tr Houses of Parliament on 28th March, I 1977 and Government woulS brinif II Oral Answers DECEMBER 7. , 1977 Oral Answers 12

forward necessary legislative proposals matter. I find no question which, during the current session. requires an answer. (Interruptions) (c) No such proposal is under consideration of the Government. DR. HENRY AUSTIN; If we want to raise a debate, we know the pro- (d) No Sir. cedure to be followed. My effort was (e) Does not arise. only to get an assurance from you that no such idea is being contemplat- DR. HENRY AUSTIN: In recent ed by the Government. I am glad that weeks, reports haveappeared in the you are giving the assurance. I take press and there are also strong it that an assurance has been given. rumours to the effect that the Gov- I would like to know, whether in view ernment or the Home Ministy is pro- of the assurance that the Home posing to introduce legislation similar Minister has given the Home to MISA. These reports are streng- Ministry will initiate steps to redress thened and people aretempted to the situation prevailing in Madhya believe that because of the recent Pradesh and Kashmir and direct the happenings in Madhya Pradesh and State Governments to withdraw the perhaps, Kashmir also. The Jammu ordinances, which are repugnant to the & Kashmir Ordinance, for instance, spirit of this age. stipulates that people could be detain- ed for two years at a stretch without SHRI : I will say any process of law and they could be with respect to the Member that the rearrested also after release for an- question does not ari.se out of it. Yet, other two years. In Madhya Pradesh 1 have no such intention of advising the position is well known, that to the State Governments. They are suppress a legitimate strike by the within their rules to issue the ordi- Electricity Workers, a mini-MISA nances. They have Constitutional was introduced and the Union Leaders rights to do so. In some States, there have been put in jail. And the reports is already a Preventive Detention Act say that to meet the growing deterio- in existence for some time past. So, ration in the law and order situation it will require an amendment of the in various States, these new, MISA Constitution to deprive the States of sort of legislations incorporating the their rights. provisions of MISA are going to be introduced. It is creating an alarm SHRI C. N. VISVANATHAN: The in the country. hon. Home Minister stated that it is the right of the State Governments to May I know from the Home Minis- have MISA in their own State. I ter whether he has stated that a Com- would like to know whether this mission is looking into the matter and reply will be applicable to all the whether, during the pendency of this States in or only to the States Commission, you are going to pro- which are ruled by . pose some kind of legislation. 1 would like to ask whether the Home Minister MR SPEAKER: No. He stated that will give a categorical assurance that the States have Constitional rights to no such idea is being contemplated have their own law and that therefore, and that MISA is going to be scrapped. he cannot therefore. That is what he said. THE MINISTER OF HOME AF- SHRI C. N. VISVANATHAN: Whe- FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): A ther it will be applicable to all the very clear reply has already been States, that is what I am asking. given. I do not think a new question has been put by the Member. It is SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: This is not not a supplementary at all. He wants a purely legal matter, but a political to ral3* a debate. That is a different matter also. Last week, in angw«r to 13 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA Ifl, 1899 (SAKA) Orai Answers 14

my unstarred question, the minister ^ fHT ^ ^TT snn^'V I has aj-.ked them to withdraw it. MR. SPEAKER: What is your I. ^ ^ ^ i I question? f t i , SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: The ques- tion is, there is an inner contradic- f jtt srk w tion. rR f ^ ^ f' MR. SPEAKER: That is not a ques- HliT'fl “MMI f tion. |TT ^ ^ SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Therefore, vitK HTTTir w they are allowing the State Govern- ^ f 'TtMd+ci ments to have the mini-MISA. I put it to you whether it is not a fact that TT?hr % ^ s't ^ your Government itself has got diver- w ?nr 5!T% ? igent views on retention of mini-MISA and therefore you are allowing the operation of mini-MISA in Madhya Pradesh and also in Jammu and 5TFT^ ^'T qw ^FTTlftT ^'T f W t Kashmir and not taking any action. Tfnrr % ^ ^ ^ k What is the reaction of the Govern- ment regarding scrapping of all sorts »T^ fT*T|Tcfy t, ^ TT of black laws which are operating in the country? ^TRT I ? MR, SPEAKER; He has already given that answer. He need not answer the other part. '^rCOT : 31^ ^TRlftT % ^ 5r7?T I ^ q-ft m SHRI K. LAKKAPPA; No, he has not answered. It is a relevant ques- ?rkq^5fTTpT«nf%^'R tion. The Government is having ^ ^ f t I divergent views. Let him say ‘No’. 15 Oral Answers DECEMBER 7. 1977 Oral Answers i 6

MR. SPEAKER: No, no. that. What is the mind of the Gov- ernment? Let them answer that. I SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Sir, I raise am requesting the Prime Minister to a point of order. I put a question to answer that question. the Government. ^ ^ ?TTTTOiTTTo?rrfo

MR. SPEAKER: No, Government rrJToTTo W^TFTT WT | ^ ^ cannot have divergent views. fe n ?

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: I am ask- THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI ing about divergence in the Govern- ); Raising voices ment. He has not answered this. does not amount to an argument. (Interruptions) The Home Minister has already stated that MISA is not going to be utilised. But that doe.s not mean that a legis- JTTTnior lation requiring the detention of ele- ments responsible for violent acts and such other things will not be i atrfra needed by States other than the Cen- tre for the safety of the citizens of the country. f 1% ^ rr^o !rrf o TT^TolTo ^ fw I ^ Raman Hjdel Project in North Bengal *309, SHRI AMAR ROY PRA- qr ^fTt ^rirq- % i DHAN: Will the Minister of UNERGY ?fr # ir be pleased to .state; ^'T ?TTT ^ Tra (a) whether the infrastructure of ^ ^ JfTT ^ ? ^qr t Human llyrlel Projcct of North Bengal ^TTTTT ^ ? is underway; and (b) if so, the time by which it is MR. SPEAKER; He has already expected to be completed? answered that question.

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Let the THE MINISTER OF ENERGY Prime Minister answer that. (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) and (b). The West Bengal State Elec- MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Nayak, he tricity Board have intimated that in- has mentioned his view and he has frastructure works like construction •said that so far us the State Govern- of temporary roads, residential build- ments are concerned, they have their ings and arrangements for construc- constitutional right. tion power have been taken in hand. The Raman Hydro Electric Project SHRI K. LAKKAPPA; Why are Stage II, of which infrastructure works you answering? He should answer form a part, was sanctioned in April Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers i 8 17

1977 and, as per present assessment, SHRI CHITTA BASU: Is it not a the first two units of 12.5 MW each fact that infrastructure could be com- are expected to be commissioned in pleted—and cannot be completed—ac- 1982-83 and the remaining two units cording to schedule because of lack of of 12.5 MW each during 1983-84. finance and of the non-release of ne- cessary finance? In view of this, can SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN: I the Minister assure the House that in am sorry to hear the reply of the hon. order to complete the project as per Minister. I can say that except load schedule, necessary .funds will be construction, no infrastructure work made available, so that the infra- has been started so far. North Ben- structure can be completed as per gal is a neglected and backward area schedule? due to power crisis. It has become a black or dark area. The entire Jal- SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: It is dhakka hydel project is a complete fail- for the State Government and the lure, particularly in the r&iny season. State Electricity Board to approach the Due to political pressure Dalkhola ther- Planning Commission and the Central mal plant has been abandoned. Now the Government, if there is a shortage of only hope is the Ramman project, for finance. So far no such problem has the people of North Bengal. In the arisen and they have not reported to circumstances, I would like to know us that there is shortage of funds. from the hon. Minister what is the total estimated cost of the project; and SHRI SAUGATA ROY: As the hon. how much money has been spent so Member has already mentioned. North tar for this project. Bengal is a backward area and the Raman hydel project is only a small (Interrnptions) projcct which wjl’ give power to a SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: I small area. In order to solve the want notice for it. The project will power problem of North Bengal, the cost about Rs. 2419 lakhs, comprising Fai akka Super Thermal Power station Rs. 995 lakhs as the cost of electrical is necessary. Would the hon. Minis- works, and the balance as the civil ter kindly tell us by which year this works and over heads. And then the thermal power station would be com- provision approved by the Planning missioned? Commission for the current year is Rs. 278 Iflkhs; infrastructure works SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: The like construction of temporary roads, project report for Farakka is under residential buildings, arrangement for pi'occssin-j. After that it has to be construction power etc. have been placed before the Invc.‘;tment Clear- taken in hand. ance Board. After clearance is given, sanction may be accorded for the com- SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN: How- mencement of the work, and the Na- much money has been spent for the tional Thermal Power Corporation project uptodate? When will the tem- would do it. As I stated earlier, this porary road construction be complet- clearance would be given in the next ed. and when will the infrastructure two or three months. After that the work of the buildings and other project would be taken up. works be started? SHRI K. B. CHHETRI: In view of SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: As T an acute power shortage in North said earlier, all the entire units are Bengal no projects are coming up expected to be commissioned by 1982- there. As a result, the people of the 83 and 1983-84; in between, the State whole of North Bengal are feeling Electricity Board has taken up the in- themselves neglected. Immediate frastructure work. They are doing it completion, or time-bound completion, according to schedule. of projects would be of a great help to 19 Oral Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Oral Answers 20

the people of North Bengal. I would (~) lfR~, crT ~. lf~ ctT Iike to know from the hon. Minister whether it is a fact that because of ~~T 'tl:/T ~ ? some controversy between the State Government and the Central Govern- ment with regard to the import of ~?1Tq #'>fT (P.:fT ~ ~~) machinery and with regard to the in- ( Cfi) ;;rT ~t I vitation of global tenders, projects have been delayed. Secondly, since (~) ~~ ~ IDl1mm ~ ft;m; the Prime Minister is here, I would qfOff like to draw his attention whether it ~ ~Tif ~ ~T ~ R;rrr is a fact that the hilly area of D3r- qm ~ ;;r) fm ~ ij' 'AIF~GilF*14) ctT jeeling was allotted a sum of Rs. 800 'A'fuGfi \iI"Hi @it CfT~ ~i;fT If{ fc!irq;;r~ lakhs in the three Five Year Plans, 73"'T ~ ~ ~ lAT1lT~1I'Tm ~ I release of the balance amount?

SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: As far as the power position is concerned, it is a fact that North Bengal is short ot power, due to various reasons, includ- ing want of proper linkage between North Bengal and other parts of Ben- P.:fT~ Cfl"1i.,f-t~ ~ 'fT'hom gal. We have already advised the State Electricity Board to establish ~ ~ ~!IT it f\ifi'f ~ml' to North Bengal also. WIth regard to 'A'P: ~ mfucrrftlf) this particular project, all the prob- ~ ~ ~ '3';; mft ~tWmrT if; lems have been sorted out and we are awaiting certain clarifications from the GfR i:i fq:;;m: :;n:if; 'WRT h:q-g Q-W State Electricity Board. As soon as ''f.\' it; f~ fq'~~ "q;"Pi' ~ m'Ff f 5q~1"r:-,,;-ir l:fQ ~ for. ~f7,;r ~ ~lf4"mn ~T ~T:f1"'1mif.€'lt f~ 'ilRT ~ . ~;\.;~ f<117, -.:r~ ?t~B.r;:r ir 'ii f(~y, ~;T ~ITFf >;: 3 1 O. ~i mt~ qre:~: "flfT a.- ~.f~f~~;:r~t~ ~.S"fW: ;~ - ~r.r~ ~ ~ar~ CfiT'PIT Cfi~rr R> : tn: '{i"'{ c;:~iT f'T. 'Tiq~ ~cif tt.fT 7.I &emir ~ 'fiT ~ ~T ; m.: ~ 2I Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22

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SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: At 9Nf ^ w9r»T present, there are no training centres in Gujarat. If there are any areas in Gujarat where such centres can be * 3 12 . sft sraif «r»rf: set up, we shall examine. 3»3rf W

# srftr^ 'h : ?t r srftrsm ^ m r j 7 % 5F ^ srf^r^ ^ ^n, sit f ? fl'TT ^ jfN' 5!T9' ^ ^ 'TPT ? ^raerir f w m r ; a5 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 25

(??) WT W ETTTT 7 H ^ ^ ^ fe n ir fJTTT ETRT 9 I wrf^ # «TRf «ifr I % ^rra^-Tfft ^ srr f . ■, «rrr ^rpit | ^ % ?r stttt v v r , ^ iffV ^ STTcft- |i ^ ’R-^TFJjft 5»r *f 5TJT><{< ( it ) ?5T «rHK % ^rr^RT t h e m i n i s t e r o f e n e r g y ■^1^11 g — w r ^ ^ (SHRI p. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) and (b). All acquisitions under Sec- ^ *r3IT ^ SJPTFTT sR^ft ? tion 7 of the Coal Bearing Areas Act in Kamapura zone and elsewhere SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: Sir, have been made after proper survey as far as this area is concerned, all of the area and the legal provisions provisions under the Act have been have been complied with. observed. If there are any complaints about it and if they are brought to our (e) Does not arise. notice, definitely severe action will be taken. But, as far as provisions of the Act are concerned, all the provi- ThmiH srm?r ^ : ?rwra’ sions have been complied with. r r fw n sft ^ !Tf^ ^ *lf t, ^TVeTT sf^ sft Thr?TT5r STffR ^*rf : 5ft ^ITR ^ 5Ft irt I, f^^rfXTT 1w nqr 1^3^ | t r ^ , 19 ,S7” % ’IH T ^ ^ 5fk ^'r ^ ^ irsTT if ^mr wrf^ir *TnTT iRT rft # ?rnr% s t t t ^ sTT, 4ii®vji^?r^ f>-=(isi ^ srrft' *ft, =[®Tr f ^^rrq-' f?F ? n ft ^ a m 7 ^ ^ % fftrr ^ 5ft tT^hfhrT fw ^ n f STRT 9 % 5Rnr^ t , ^ t, t j ^3^ STF^ WT. f?nn IPTT I I ^ f W t, f w ^TPftiz 5TPTT- OTTT 4 ? fk 7 % 35R7TTT•* ^ > 5ir^«n vft t ^ SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN: I ^3FT^ »rr?ft ?T^r ^ r t would like to have Notice for this. ^ % t f ^ ^ ^ Ph + h ^ Fast Breeder Nuclear Power Reactor ^tcTT t I ?TjN' % ^ ^ | ? g rr ?friff cith15< jttV % + *:H3. SHRI s. R. REDDY: ^ ^ f^TVTW WX vfr SHRI MADHAVRAO I I ^ ^ SCINDIA: oUef^sn ^ ^ ^P; cfhr ^ ^Ri' Will the Minister of ATOMIC ^ ^TFT fq5T ENERGY be pleased to state: % Hlfe'fiTf ^TTTTT t I 3 ^ (a) the cost involved in the deve- % 5JTRT ^ W I, ^ ^ lopment of Fast Breeder Nuclear f t ^ # ¥f)fefB%gl>f iTiTT I I Power Reactor indigenously; and ^ ^ ?rt^ fwniTT |?fk (b) when it is expected to be ready?’ -27 Oral Answers DECEMBER 7. 1977 Written Answers Z8

THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MO- Breeder Reactors working. So, may I RARJI DESAI): (a) The cost esti- know from the Prime Minister whe- mates of the Fast Breeder Test Reac- ther we are going to start constructing tor is Rs. 58.72 crores (excluding fuel a regular Fast Breeder Reactor Power cost) with a foreign exchange compo- Station? -nent of Rs. 27.86 crores. SHRI MORARJI DESAI: I do not (b) The reactor is expected to be quite follow what he wants to know. commissioned by mid-1980. MR. SPEAKER: He wants to know SHRI S. R. REDDY: As far as this about the Fast Breeder Reactor that foreign exchange component regarding We are having. Fast Breeder Test Reactor is concern- SHRI M. S. SANJEEVI RAO: Fast ed, I would like to know whether it includes technology and foreign ma- Breeder Reactor using thorium. May chinery also. I repeat the question? SHRI MORARJI DESAI: We are also SHRI MORARJI DESAI: It includes in consultation with the French both. technicians. SHRI S. R. REDDY: My second question is, this. The Reactor will be SHRI M. S. SANJEEVI RAO: I indigenous one. Since foreign ex- want to know about the regular power change component is involved, to what station instead of experimental power extent, it will be indigenous? What station. is the percentage? SHRI MORARJI DESAI: When the SHRI MORARJI DESAI: It is not experiment succeeds. for me to tell you, but whatever maxi- mum is possible will be done.

DR. SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: In view of shortage of heavy water and w r i t t e n a n s w e r s t o QUESTIONS in view of the fact that we are having ■ix very great difficulty in getting it, is the Government considering or will q 5 R t5TT consider a new type of Fast Breeder Reactor like the Molten Rao Fast Breeder Reactor which does not need * 3 0 S . ^r5T«T rnr ^ heavy water? Is the Government con- •sidering or will consider to set up such reactors? (5p) I fa % SHRI MORARJI DESAI: I will be obliged if the hon. Member can sug- gest something like that. fjfsrnr

SHRI M. S. SANJEEVI RAO: The Prime Minister is well aware that the fir faRT ^ thorium which we are having in our country is very limited and the only hope is the Fast Breeder Reactor us- ing vast resources of the thorium. The ( ^ ) w % f^T^rnr present Fast Breeder Reactor is work- ing on an experimental basis. Already lie is aware that in West Germany and JVance, there are a number of Fast Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 30 *9

THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI (n ) ^ %rnfipTlf cPTT MORARJI DESAI): (a) M/s. IBM fiwn ^f3T«T% have formally informed the Union ^ ^TTPTT % fH 5ft^ f c i - ^ Government that they propose to phase out their operations in India by the JRTT ^ t eft »lf 5Tt end of May, 1978. ;3^ ^JTT «PTT"T t ; «ftr (b) The conditions are that they (tr) W t T m HTSFTT should re-structure their operations by converting their existing branch into rRT ?m nT ^ ^ *rf f?TPlfT?ff an Indian Company and bring the ^ strkT ^ t ? foreign equity in that company to 40 per cent so as to comply with the pro- visions of the Foreign Exchange Re- »i? («rt iTT^f^). (^) ^ gulation Act, 1973.

(c) According to information avail- able, the number of clients served, (?i) fNwT 3fk Tyrmn^iF and persons employed, by M/s. IBM ?m , ^ cT^ |?

(»r) ?fhc (?r). 985 JTTW,^f Rental Equipment — 750 ^ ^ ^ ^ I ^?n' TT33T Purchased Equipment — 1G8 5TTT f^mfT5T iff | I (ii) Data Centre About 350 (2) Employees: Approximately 800 stopping of Operations in India by I.B.M. fd) No compromise proposal was ever under negotiation. The propo- sals discussed were those which would *314, DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN- have, enabled IBM to conform to the DIT: Will the Minister of ELECTRO- provisions of the Foreign Exchange NICS be pleased to state: Regulation Act, 1973. (a) whether the International Busi- ness Machine Corporation (I.B.M.) Ag^itatioii by Employees of C.S.I.O., has informally intimated to the Union Chandigrarh Government its plan to stop opera- tions in India by the end of 1977; *315. SHRI BHAGAT RAM: Will the Minister of PLANNING be plea- (b) the terms and conditions Gov- sed to state: ernment have put on the I.B.M. for continuing their operations; (a) whether Government are aware of tho grave labour unrest in the (c) how many clients are being Central Scientific Instruments Orga- served by the I.B.M. and how many nisation, Chandigarh where employees Indian persons are employed by the have been agitating since May, 1977 I-B.M.; and in support of their demands;

(d) what progress has been made on (b) whether employees also under- the compromise proposal under nego- took forty-five days relay hunger tiation by the Government? strike from 23rd June to 7th August 31 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 32 this year and have again threatened to launch a fresh agitation as their demands remain unfulfilled; wtr (g ). ii-t-ify+K eZTTTR SERfR 1969 (c) if so, the reasons why the de- OTTT 36 % IRT# ^ 30 mands of the employees are not settl- ed through negotiations; and 1977 % m n r 'TT f^T5TT m if 69 (d) what steps have been taken by ^ I I Government to avert a fresh agitation 1969 ir spT TRq- ^ to bring normalcy at C.S.I.O, by CS settling the genume demands of the fiMTWlT 4 1 1 . 16 19 7 5 employ«ei? ir 8 5 8 . 81 «n I W 5RTR Mr^^nrn^i i969 ^ 1975 THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI ir ar® ^ 4 4 7 . 65 Tpr MORARJI DESAI): (a) There is »it I 1975 % WR qiwqiwr % no grave labour unrest in the Central Scientific Instruments Organisation, w n n ^ h + tO I I Chandigarh. However, a few emplo- yees in the lower levels of the orga- Survey of Raw Material in setting up nisation are agitating due to various Industry in Himachal Fradesli reasons. *317. SHRI DURGA CHAND; Will (b) Some employees did undertake the Minister of INDUSTRY be plea- relay hunger-strike and the so-called sed to state: C.S.I.O. employees Union have re- cently threatened to launch a I'rcsh (a) whether the Union Governmeni agitation. ha\’e any proposal to undertake a com- plete survey of availability of raw material useful for setting up industry (c) and (d). Orders on moeiing in Himachal Pradesh; some of the demands of the emplo- yees have recently is.‘

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) and (b). The Union Government have no proposal to undertake a complete * 3 1 « . survey of availability of raw materials useful for setting up industries in Hi- machal Pradesh. However, the State ; Government have carried out a survey of all the districts in the State under the guidance of Small Industries Ex- (^ ) 1970 it tention Institute, Hyderabad (a Gov- ernment of India Undertaking), for CN assessing potential for their industrial development. The State Government (^ ) i970^?TT5r?r^f^f?rTt3ift^ also have a full-fledged Geological De. partment which investigates the mine- ^ Tsft ir I ? ral resources of the State. Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 34 i

(c ) A ccordin g to the information ?rf W R ift ^ tr^ w fci ft^rr ^i^rr urnished by the State Government, he State Government are conducting I ?nf^ # t ? f % fHtr srf!T8Sm legotiations for setting up a cement gfgtmff, ?rraw m \ ?rs^ ilant, a newsprint paper plant and a 5ZRW 5Ft ^ ?T% I ilant for the manufacture of pharma- eulical drugs, w h ich could itili'je ]o- ^ 1 1 5rni w r aj medicinal herbs. The State Govern- nent have recently announced their wlicy which gives top priority to iroinotion of industries based on local Silent Valley Projsct and Hydro-Elec- es&urces. tric Projects in Kerala

*;il9. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW: Will the Minister of ENERGY be plea- sed to state: V1%3T« (a) what is the delay in giving sanc- * 318. : tion to the Silent Valley Project in Kerala; and r«7 ^ frtTT (b) how many more hydro-electric projects are under the consideration (^ ) ^ of Central and State Governments in Kerala at different levels? if 5rf5T?T

1 ^ THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) ( m) ^JTr WTRir ?n^rq' ^ The Silent Valley Project was origi- % wnrw F4T^wf 3T»T5T>rfI tu t) : (wr) mination along with the revised pro- (tj). ?n»ff ^t^^rr^rsr wft i964 ject estimates. ^ ^ 50T 5T ^rnn ’rqr ^zfff¥ (b) Besides Idukki Stage III, Ida- 3 0 0 % f?ri^ sq-^^ malayar and Kakkad Hydro-Electric 1964 ir JTf f5=prq- f%JTT Projects which are already under con- *r^r m fw; TTt%3r sTJT^r 6 5 o ^ r j struction, the Kerala State authorities have sent project reports in respect of ^ ^ I the following two schemes to the Cen- tral Electricity Authority: — ’ (^) 1977 # w msf ifft (i) Kerala-Pandiyar-Punnapuzha # oj t t t ’Tqr | !t I?: »rr’:Ttq- Hydro-Electric Scheme; Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 WrUten Answers 36 35

(ii) Kuttiyadi augmentation (mul- THE MINISTER OF HOME AF- tipurpose) Scheme'. FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) and (b). The prevention of exploi- tation of the tribals has been f?iven Medium of Examinatioii for N.D.A. a very high priority. Various legis- and other Competitioiis lative measures exist in the States to- protect the tribals from extortion by •320. SHRI RAMAN AND TIWARY: money-lenders. In addition, in order Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS to provide alternative channel of cre- be pleased to state: dit to the tribals, large size Multipur- pose Societies (LAMPS) have been (a) whether English is the medium organised to cover bulk of the tribal for answering question papers for areas in Andhra Pradesh, Assam, various competitive examinations held Bihar, Gujarat, Karnataka, Madhya- by the U.P.S.C. particularly for I.A.S. Pradesh, Maharashtra, Orissa, Rajas- and N.D.A.; than and Kerala. Steps have also been (b) whether the examinations, par- taken to enable the tribals to take ticularly for N.D.A., are taken by advantage of soft loans from Commer- the students within the age group of cial Banks at an interest rate of 4 per 16 years and 17A years and that the cent per annum under the differential boys of farmer? and poor people rates of interest Scheme. studying in schools other than Public Schools cannot answer the question papers through English medium as (JTKJT ir efficiently as the boys of Public WT^nfTrT F«rnRT Schools;

(c) if so, whether Government pro- *322. sTmrrm <19 : pose to introduce Hindi as a medium ^ 5^- fTT ^ : of examination particularly for N.D.A. keeping in view the above facts; and ( ^ ) w srirsT % (d) if not, the reasons for continuing n 3TT rr^ fTOfT ^ t , this discriminatory attitude and in- ^ ^ ir iTT?r fR equality in opportunities? ?rr£rrf77T F-srmT %

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE qr fen ^ I I MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI S. D. PATIL); (a) to (d). A (^ ) irf? ?t, m Statement is laid on the Table of the ^ t ; House. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-1291/77]. (n ) ^ %

Exploitation of Tribals and Adivasis ^ % “til I

*321. SHRI SURENDRA BIKRAM: r Will the Ministe:r of HOME AFFAIRS ( ^ ) % (^t ). ireT % JTtr^rr be pleased to state: ir ^ TT ^JiyiRd ^ (a) whether Government are taking wn T tf i ftpr any steps to protect Tribals and Adivasis from exploitation by money- JTSq- TFTIT TTEJT lenders; and f5T%- if 30 ^ (b) if so, the details thereof? W.,itten Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 37 (c) Hybrid Micro-circuits are pri-

(b) if so, the details thereof; and Price rise in Khadi due to mixture of fibres - (c) if net. whether Government pro- pose to consider importing of techno- *324. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will logy from abroad in this field? the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, Sir; pro- (a): whether Khadi has been allow- ed to be mixed with fibres which have gress has been made both in the. deve- lopment and manufacture of instru- both foreign know-how in their mak- ing and some imported ingredients; ments and equipment using micro- circuits. (b) if so, reasons for making Poly- khadi; (b) Since 1971, Bharat Electronics Limited has developed different types (c) whether the price is going to be of thick film hybrid micro circuit more than doubled for this mixed modules. Under a scheme funded by Khadi; and the Department of Electronics, the' Indian Telephone Industries has also (d) if so, whether Government pro- produced such modules for their in- pose to consider and allow this indus- ternal requirements. Under another try to be a pure Hindustani run by project funded by the Department, the traditional methods? Tata Institute of Fundamental Re- search has successfully completed de- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY velopment of VHF and UHF amplified (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES) : (a) modules based on thin film technology. to (d). The Government have under Some times the term "micro-circuits" its cousideration a proposal received is used to also denote monolithic in- from the Khadi and Village Industries tegrated circuits (ICs). Some types Commission that the SCOPeof the term of the latter are made in the country "Khadi" may be widened to include by Bharat Electronics Limited; and admixture of man-made fibres like th", Department of Electronics is im- polyster to increase its marketing po- plementing the setting up of the Semi- tential and to cater to the changing Conductor Complex to manufacture consumer trends. The scheme regard- large scale integrated circuits (1,SIs). ing mixing of khadi with man-made Equipment and instruments based on fibres is still at the experimental stage integrated circuits and large scale and therefore its economics have not integrated circuits are made in the been worked out. It is, however, ex- country. pected that polyster khadi will not 39 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 40 tose its basic charaotilisAS a hand spun those civil people or families who and hand-woven and its pi^ice have suffered loss of life, damage to would be broadly 'Hinparable with their properties, gardens and houses mill-made polyster cloth. due to burning or uprooting of vil- lages as a result of grouping since disturbances in 1966; and Restoration of Alienated Tribal Land (b) the detail and nature of Central •325. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: Will assistance given out by way of com- the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pensations and the approximate value pleased to state: of such Central aid so far distributed, family-wise or village-wise, in Mizo- (a) whether it is a fact that one of ram? the main problems of tribal people is the restoration of their lands alienated THE MINISTER OF HOME AF- from them; FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) and (b). The scheme of grouping (b) if so, the measures Government have taken to solve this problem; and villages in Mizoram was taken up with the idea of providing security pro- (c) the progress made so far in res- tection to the villagers against under- toring tribal lands in various States? ground intimidation and harassment after the disturbances of 1966. Small villages were re-grouped at suitable THE MINISTER OF HOME AF- locatiot.i and the population which FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) had to abandon their villages were Yes, Sir. rehabilitated at new sites. Rehabili- tation assistance in the form of CGI (b) The States having tribal Sub- sheets, transport, foodgrains etc. was Plans have been asked to review their given to the affected villagers. The existing legislations on land with a question of compensation, therefore, view to safeguarding the interest of did not arise. the tribals. Most of the States have completed this exercise. The Project Administrators are to give first prio- rity to problem of land alienation and land restoration. Exemption from the payment of Mini- mum bonus to Jute manufacturers (c) Available information shows that about 11,110.46 Hectares of land 2870. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will have been restored to tribals in the the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased States of Madhya Pradesh, Maharash- to state: tra and Orissa. (a) whether the jute manufacturers have asked for exemption from the payment of minimum bonus; and

Compiensation to persons uprooted in (b) if so, the reasons therefor and Mizoram the reaction of Government thereto? 2869. DR. R. ROTHUAMA: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIMS be plea- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY sed to state: (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) and (b ). Under the Payment of Bonus (a) the facts and figures regarding Act, 1965, exemption from the pay- the amount of compensation so far ment of bonus can be granted onlj sanctioned by Central Government for by the State Governments. [ji Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (iSAKA) Written Answers 42

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' ( t ) ^ h'<^r: t^rftrirTT 05t ^1'jHi ^r ^?rnr % fVfVw 'dr^i'iH W$ft ^ ?ft*Tr frnf^TT STRTT^ #?TR fcar 3it t % ’eft'Tirr-'T^ o % f?r<^ ^ ^ ^r n's^r W fer »TT f? I; »T'i < ^ % ^tf^irf Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be vrfsTfr ^ ^'TK^r f^ r^ ^r%cf pleased to state: fTTTff ?tY?: gr^t ^?iw f % sErrTftr^ (a) how much money is being col- Tmr ^RT =5rrf^; ^ lected annually as Salt Tax or in the name of Salt Cess; (^) qf? ffT ^ (b) how many persons are employ- ^ ^[TTjfr ? ed to collect the same and the money spent on such establishment; and

(c) how the balance is utilised? 3aV*i *rtV ( sft ’r i IwHc sr) :

( t ) ? fk (w)- ?T9ftftnT ^ THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY ^RTf 3TT I ZT? 9ftCT ^ ^ % (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) The amounts of salt cess collected dur- '’Ti^^fV I jfrfw ^ ing the last three years were as fol- q r S^TT^T 1w 5TTT^ 1 lows:

(in rupees)

Year Cess Misc. Total Receipts

1974-75 . 1,23,16,260 18,83,742 1,42,00,002

1975-76 ■ 1,16,57,765 118,27,174 1,34,84,939

1976--77 • 1,12,78,896 |20,0i,474 1,32,80,370 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 46 ■5

(b) and (c). T^pere is no separate draft Bill was received in March, 1976. staff for collection of salt cess. The The revised dr^filt Bill provided for the main duties of the staff of the Salt extension of 65 Central Acts and the Department include development of repeal of the corresponding Portu- salt industry, distribution of salt, esta- guese laws. Since this was not in blishment and maintenance of research accordance with the recommendations stations and model salt farms and of their Law Commission, that G ov- promotion of welfare of labour em- ernment were advised in November, ployed in salt industry. The depart- 1976 to scrutinise all Portuguese laws mental staff also assist in the collec- in force in the territory and propose tion of salt cess. The total strength the saving of only those laws the im- of staff in the Salt Department at mediate repeal of which is not feasi- present is 998. The total expenditure ble or advisable. Since the Portu- on the establishment of the Sail De- guese law is not codified, the process partment during 1976-77 was Rs. of locating the laws to be saved is 03,07,000. time-consuming. The Government of Goa, Daman and Diu are, however, expediting the matter. Recommendations of Law Commission to repeal Portuguese Laws aixplicable to Goa, Daman and Diu Approach by Foreign Countries in 2875, SHRI EDUARAO FALEIRO: setting up big Industries in India Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS with Collaboration be pleased to state: 2876. SHRI SKARIAH THOMAJ: (a) when the Law Commission ap- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pointed oy the Government of Goa, pleased to state: Daman and Diu recommended that all Portuguese laws, except those imme- (a) whether some foreign countries fllate repeal of which was not consi- have approached Government for dered feasible or advisable, should be setting up big industries in India with repealed; collaboration;

(b) what steps have been taken in (b) if so. the names of the countries this direction since such recommenda- and companies which have made pro- tions were made and upto the month posal fcr setting up big industries; of July, 1977; and and

(i.) what further steps have been (c) whether Government have con- taken in the aforesaid direction since sidered their proposals; and if so, ’■eply to Unstarred Question 4958 what is the present Industrial Policy on 27th July, 1977? of Government?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY m i n i s t r y o f h o m e AFFAIRS (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a)

Progress in Procurement of Raw Jute fTTT ftr : by the J.C.I.

2877. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; ( t ) TPsfiTT 3 i t?: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: «II(S ^ 97^1’ f'l'M'Tii (a) whether the procurement of raw Jute by the JCI has been progressing at a distressingly slow pace in the current season; (g-) w ^ t ff: # ^ TT TrsfTfeJTT ^ (b) if so, what are the details there- of: and 'Tpfr

(c) factor responsible for this dis- couraging performance? t p f i I ;

THE m i n i s t e r o f INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) ( ’i ) ?ft ^ to (c). Since the prices of raw jute have been ruling at fairly high levels compared to the minimum statutory prices during the current season, the procurement of Jute Corporation of India till 2-12-1977 has totalled 57.47.') bales of 180 kg. only. sr>n^>Tr»ir ( ^ ) ^ (JT). Tnrimt ^ o 3 1

Extraction of Uranium from Sea ( f ^ ^ ) — ^^>i£frr3-qT (^T2T^) Water q-T itz ?tF?^ q j 1 1 IT? if w ?ffr 2«78. SHRI SUKHENDRA SINGH: Will the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be pleased to state: ^ 1 1 '(Tpfi % T trr^ % 3iWT !TR q-pfi w (a) whether Government have tried ^RTT I ?fiT if 5TT? ?mT on experimental basis extracting of uranium from sea water; and m ^ t w ^ I , ^ ?Tf w: % ?>ff ?ftT ^ ^ qFfr w (b) if so, the details regarding the same and the further programme of cTT I I HT=F 'TT ITT Government in this regard? Tf^^T 5% iff % % TT^ft m ^ ^ ?Tff I ^ THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI T n n r* % 5f t if MORARJI DESAI): (a) No, Sir. ^ if 5f ^ (b) Does not arise. rw»wd f I I 49 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 {SAKA) Written Answers 50-

Power Sapply Position In October, 1977 1977 as anticipated and actual State- wise and Region-wise is given in the 2880. SHRI DHARAM VIR VASISTH: attached statement. Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleas- ed to state: (b) There have not been any major (a) the power supply position in restraints or constraints in the power October, 1977 anticipated and actual, distribution system in the States. region-wise and State-wise; and There have, however, been some cons- traints in supply of power from sur- (b) the restraints or constraints in plus States to neighbouring deficit the distribution system of the same? States due to deficiency in transmis- sion line capacity. Necessary steps THE MINISTER OF ENERGY are, however, being taken to construct (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) more and more inter-State and inter- The power supply position in October, Region lines for the purpose.

Statement Power supply position—October Anticipated and Actuals. State-wise and Region-toise

Anticipated Actual Rpgion/Statf supply Require- Svipply MU/day ment MU/day MU/day

I a 3 4

Northern Region

Haryana . 8-00 7-70 6- 70

Hiitinchal Pradesh . o-8o o- fio 0-75 No shortage

Jammu & Kashmir 1-55 I- 14 1-40 Punjab . . 10-60 10-28 10-10

Rajasthan . 8-80 6-50 7-50 No shortage

Uttar Pradesh . 33-60 30-44 26-00

D e l h i ...... 5-50 5-50 5- 20 No shortage

C h a n d ig a r h ...... 0-45 0-45 0-45 No shortage- Nangal Fertiliser . . . . 4‘ ao 2-35 2-37

T o t a l . . . 73-50 65-16 60-47

W^estern Region

G u j a r a t ...... 20-57 20-57 ai-6o No shortage-

Madhya Pradesh .... 14-80 i 3-oa 12*90

48-60 41-60 40-ao

G o a ...... o-8o 0*55 0-59

T o t a l . 84-77 74-74 75-ag 5 1 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 52

1 2 3 4

■’Southern Region

Andhra Pradesh . 13-48 13-48 13-80 No shortage

Karnataka . . 21-43 •3-45 13-10 8-00 8-00 7-70 No shortage

Tamil Nadu including Pondicherry 26-45 26-45 22-40 Xo shortage

T o t a l • 69-35 61-38 57-00

■rastem Region Bihar 10-00 0-75 6-50 \ o sliortas;e cxccpt for sliort pf-riods.

West Bengal . 16-14 •4-50 13-40

DVC (i) W.B. portion . 5-00 3-'1 1 ■ 11•40 (ii) Bihar portion . 9-50 9-50 J

Orissa 7-80 7-80 7'20 No short.iffc

T o t a i 48-44 43-69 38- 50

.Jiorth Eastern Rt^ion 3-30 2-50 2- 30

Rupees eight lakhs loan to Kerala for (c) if so, the details and Govern- clearance of Accumulated Stock of ment’s decision thereon? Handloom Cloth THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) 2881. SHRI K. A. RAJAN: Will the The Government of India had sanc- Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to tioned a loan of Rs. 30 lakhs to the «tate: Government of Kerala. Loans had also been sanctioned to some other (a) whether the Government had States, on similar terms and condition. given a loan of Rupees Eighty lakhs All the loans were short-term loans, to Kerala Government for clearance of repayable in two annual instalments accumulated stock of handloom cloth with interest.

(b) if so whether the Kerala Gov- (c) A decision had been taken in ernment have requested the Centre to respect of assistance given to the State exempt it from the repayment of this Governments concerned, that it would loan which is due already and also to be in the form of short-term loan and convert the loan into outright grant; not >^ant. The same decision was «nd made applicable to Kerala also. 53 Written Ansvoers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1809 (SAKA) Written Answers

WftTFT "FTfT m ?rrarfw Trnff f^^ispT: ^t^jfrV ^ ^ ^ ^rnrifT ^ ^ rq r f^fT ftT»ro im !Sf?t ?rr«r9Ji'*^ % «it^ if 1 1 vT frirfrT ^ T ^T ^T T ^?»Tf ^ TT??T- Super Thermal Station at Sambalpur, ^ siftTT ^ I ; Orissa '

( ^ ) ^ZTT ^ TT^iff % 3%f?rftJ^Ti 2883. SHRI GANANATH PRA- DHAN: Will the Minister of ENERGY ^ fsT^r^ ^ T^rf^rT w r 'O be pleased to state; ^pq^T t (a) whether there is any proposal HT^rr a^cT fe rr | ; to start a Super Thermal Power Sta- tion at Brajarajnagar, Sambalpur, Orissa, in view of the availability of (»t ) 3Tfe ft, ?TT if ^ ?rpT- raw materials and to utilise the Dam water for Irrigation purposes; and ^rft ^T »Tf t ? (b) if so, the steps taken so far, the survey project report and funds ^?r>T »HV («ft « ^ ^ « « ) : allotted for it? (^ ) ^ ?r^£r Jr !Tfe?T THE MINISTER OF ENERGY Fi'H'f'^WI ^^=t'l 0 (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) ^TfiTr^ f^ o sp-T »rzr % No Sir. g ^ ? % ^ TT^^WR ^ f m r t (b) Does not arise. ’TSTT TK X% ^ ^ ^TRf)-

I [^i?«n?nT H w *wr i ?t w t Memorandum from a deputation of Tt ?T:> j Vo — 1292/77]^ fTT |?^- Sindhi Community ^ 7 ^ ^«rr ^irrT^^R ^ 2884. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: WiU the ^FTTRT ^ t , f % ?f^fwcr f w Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleas- =rr I ?ftT H»TT t t v s ed to refer to the reply given to Un- starred Question No. 1375 on the 22nd ferr ^r^>TT i June, 1977 regarding memorandum from a deputation of Sindhi Cofomu- (g ') ^HT »ft gT’wrrl T'T nity and state: f’T ^ 1 1 fqn: ^'t, iTfTTP^, ^fmr, (a) whether Government have now %T5T, 'Tffetft, df>T^^n¥, ^ sr%?T taken action on the demands made ^ % 5nnft % ^-iCNK if by the deputation of the Sindhi Com- munity in a memorandum submitted n ^ 185T?PfT, 1977^^^T*%5TH to the Prime Minister at Bombay in % if ^ tfTT r«4>'ir<«rf the month of June, 1977; 55 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Ansvterit 56

(b) if so, the nature thereof; and

(c) if not, the reason for the de- ^ I a<5»^?riT ^ lay? ^ HTSTVIT^kTT % T T s q - q r ferr w I wtT THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI DHANIK LAL MANDAL); (a) sr^ ^T7:% % irr'Sr % to (c). The demands listed in the ?T'nd«ff, w w a M w f ’q ti Memorandum have all been carefully considered by the Government, but it nS was not found possible to accept the ®<4 Pm 'd»^ ^ same. The question of script to be ^'MrT 5^ ^ 79nr ^ t I used for Sindhl language for printing on currency notes is presently sub- mrtr^ 5r ^ w|?r ?ifwT f w m judice. It is the policy of the Gov- snra- I, ^ Trnr ^ ernment to give due importance and encouragement to Sindhi. Facilities available to linguistic minorities un- der the agreed scheme of safeguards (^ ) q w f -RTfT^ y r <41 <• ffw r, are available to the speakers of Sindhi PsRir 75T#' T% w t, ^ f^wr language also. t I

(^) ?nft qrw ^ 75HT T? I f% 2 885. f>TS«PT: ^ ^ ^ I I ^ ^ ^ j^ a - ^?zff rrar ?R m mr^ if |it ^rmTfa^r ^ vf^t ( ^ ) ^

f«rar^

( jj) 5rf^ ^ 30-1 1 -7 7 ip> » if f l ^ I;

(H) =5R TrTT ^ 1T 9n%?r ^ i't''?ir *T^T FFTlf^f TRJT^T ?To ?fWT WT ^ ?fwr

(«r) ^ ^ t 1 I ? 1 2 3

ijir t t u t («ft 1 . !lTftr JT^ . 12 ( ^ ) ?ftT (g -). 2. 4 i0 3. f s r ^ . . 15 57 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 58

down to 1/3 of the normal produc- tion as a result of strike in Indian 1 2 3 1 Explosives Ltd. and go slow tactics adopted by the workers; and 4. (b) if so, what steps have been taken by Government to normalise 19 5. the production of explosives? 6. 3 THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY 7. 5 (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) iind (b). The workers in the factory 8. 3 of the Indian Explosives Ltd., Gonr.ia (Bihar) went on strike between 20th 9. — September and 26th October, 1977, 1 0. 1 1 resulting in a loss of production amounting to 3300 tonnes of explo- 1 1. 5 5 sives. Even after the strike was cal- led off, the workers adopted go-slow 12. 9 tactics from 2nd November to 16th 13. 20 November 1977 resulting in a further loss of production amounting to about 1 4. 7 1200 tonnes. The factory is reported to be working with normal levels o f 1 5. 'T^r? 5 production with effect from Novem- Ifi. 3 0 ber 17, 1977. 17. TriT«q-Fr . 4 Crimes by people operatlnc from 18. 7 6 across the Border in Meghalaya

1 9. 4 5 2887. SHRI P. A. SANGMA: Will 2 0. 46 the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: 21. q-pnijT — (a) whether Government are aware 2?. 1 1 that the lives of the border people along the Meghalaya-Bangladesh in- 23. — ternational border have become mis- 24. fWTTT 1 1 erable due to incidence of dacoity, cattle-lifting and other crimes com- mitted by people operating from 391 across the border; and (b) if so, what preventive mea- sures Government propose to take in the matter? Production of Explosives in Indian Explosive Ltd. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2886. SHRI VASANT SATHE: MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI S. D. PATIL): (a ) The Gov- DR. VASANT KUMAR ernment is aware that the people PANDIT: living on the Meghalaya-Bangladesh Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be border are adversely affected by pleased to state: trans-border crimes.

(a) whether it is a fact that the (b) With a view to keep the trans- production of explosive has gone border crime to the minimum the 59 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 6o

State Government and BSF keep a area is covered by a network of 68 constant vigil on this border and a bus routes including 5 mini bus routes number of Police Stations, patrol posts and 2 night services. The major part and watch posts have been opened. of route No. 330 is also covered by a number of parallel services of other routes. The operational efficiency of the services on route No. 33q is consi- dered satisfactory as its operational 2888. sft ^ ratio during the last 3 months has been around 90 per cent. ^ ^ ^ 5TT (b) Does not arise. ^ ^ t % Wim q^sTmi fnrr ^rraTr^ro ^It pt sT^rrftpff % Allocation to I.T.D.P. in Orissa v p M ^ mTTrf^, !frr?rPTT^ i ’ s t m ^ ^ ? 2890. SHRI SRIBATCHA DIGAL: WiU the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Jf 7T5JI *i?rt («ft q?To (a) the amount placed at the dis- «nfd«) : flTTTPTmr fsrfirvr posal of I.T.D.P. for utilisation in Srf^tffFTT rPTT HTCrTc^nrf i ' Phulbani District in Orissa State dur- ing the last three years; grVrpT ofr^ snFft i ’ ?ncgvj ir ^ ^ ?rnfi»T h w (b) the amount utilised in Phulbani District during the last three years; ^ ^ I ?TT5ffTr ? m t and T^KRt TT ^TT # m?- iziwr i' jrf?i H ft 3riir^ | f^Rir (c) whether some amounts have been surrendered , if so, the reasons f r ITPrWr ^afr ^ ?TFi- ^ therefor? , wrr ^rit ^TZT ^ 7^ I THE IMINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SiNGH): (a) to (c). D.T.C. Bus Route No. 330 There are two I.T.D.Ps. functioning in Phulbani District viz., Phulbani and 2889. SHRI LALU ORAON: Will the G. Udayagiri. The former was ground- Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- ed in the year 197,'5-76 and the latter PORT be pleased to state: in the year l!176-77.

(a) whether Government are aware The information regarding the that the D.T.C. Bus service in the amounts placed at the disposal of and Trans-Jamuna area of Delhi in gener- the amounts utilised and surrendered al and Route No. 330 in particular is by, these I.T.D.Ps. in 1975-76 and very poor and buses specially on R. 1976-77 is given in the attached state- No. 330 never run regularly; and ment. (b) if so, steps taken by the Govern- The reason for the short faU, as as- ment in this regard to improve the certained from the State Government, service? is mainly the absence of proper land records which resulted in delay in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- sanction of the loan element in various CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF schemes and also implementation of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI various schemes particularly those CHAND RAM): (a) Trans-Jamuna relating to shifting cultivation. 6i Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 63^

Stmt t

Amount Amount A m ount Name of I.T.D.P. placcd utilised surrendered at the disposal

(Rupees in lakh») >975-76 Phulbani 3'37 2-76 o-6i

G. Udayagiri • • ••

H)7fi-77 Phulbani . lo-gi 3-75 7-16

G. Uda\ ngii i 8-17 3-53 4-64

News Item under ‘City Lights’ Novel Caste certificates by the competent Education authorities in Delhi. The term ‘resi- dent’ connotes the permanent resi- 2891. SHRI S. D. SOMASUND'ARAM: dence of a person on the date of noti- Will the Minister ol HOME AFFAIRS fication of the Presidential Order be pleased to state: specifying his caste/tribe as Schedul- ed Caste or Scheduled Tribe in rela- (a) whether Government have stu- tion to his State/Union Territory. Since died the problems posed regarding the Scheduled Ca.stes in relation to ‘Novel Education’ und»r heading Delhi were notified on 20th September, ‘City lights’ publilshed in "Times of 1951, any person who migrated to India” New Delhi, dated the 14th Delhi after the date cannot be treated November, 1977; as a Scheduled Caste of Delhi.

(b) if so, the outcome thereof; and At the State/Union Territory level, concessions are allowed only to Sche- (c) whether Government propose duled Castes/Tribes of the State/ to amend the Ministry of Home Affairs Union Territory concerned. How- letter No. D /642/76 SCT of December, ever, concessions given at the all 19TG so as to extend eligibility for India level are open to the Scheduled Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Castes/Scheduled Tribe of any State/ cortificate to Scheduled Castes and Union Territory. Scheduled Tribes students whose par- ents continued to remain in Delhi after 1!>51 so as to remove their difficulties in availing of educational facilities and if JTtlRraf concessions? 2 8 92. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ^ frqr ^ : m i n i s t r y o f HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI S. D. PATIL): (a) to (c). Gov- (5T) ^ ^ ernment have been the article referred to. Unde.- the provisions of the Con- stitutu)n (Scheduled Castes) (Union a Territories) Order, 1951, only members of the castes specified in relation to ( ’j ) sPTT ^ Delhi as Scheduled Castes and resi- dent therein can be issued Scheduled «3 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 64

Clandestine Export of Hindi Films to the Gulf «rTin% ^ t ? 2894. SHRI KACHARULAL HEM- RAJ JAIN: SWT?T *T8ft («ft ITtTTTaft tH lf) : SHRI D. G. GAWAI; •'(^) ?rk ( ^ ) . % f%iT?T?nT Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state; ^ *lf I I ?T>3FfT % (a) whether there have been some ?ftT ^TPhsiff ?mt5TT clandestine export of Hindi films to the Gulf and beyond; 3TT T ft t I (b) if so, the number of persons Complaints from M. Ps. Received by arrested in this connection; and Bharat Coking Coal Ltd. (c) the action taken against each of them? 2893. SHRI A. K. ROY: WiU the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION -State: AND BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K. (a) whether there is a standing in- ADVANI): (a) A news-item about structions to the Bharat Coking Coal seizure of a Hindi feature film by the Bombay Airport Customs from three Ltd. to probe all the complaints for- Dubai-bound passe.igers 01 -warded by the M.P. and to give him an Air •a final reply within 2i days; and India flight was brought to the notice of Ministry of Information and Broad- (b) if so, how many letters, com casting recently by the Chairman, plaints, representations have been Indian Motion Pictures Export Corpo- received by the Bharat Coking Coal ration. The matter has since been Ltd. from the M.P., how many of them referred by the Ministry to Directorate have been probed and how many of of Revenue Intelligence and Directo- them have been replied in the last rate of Enforcement for inve-tigation six months? and further action.

(b) and (c). The desire information THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI is being collected from the concerned P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) An inter- Department and will be laid on the nal office order was recently issued by Table of Lok Sabha in due course of the Chairman of the Company re- time. quiring issue of final replies to letters received from Members of Parliament, within 21 days. India Road Construction Corporation (b) The Chairman of the Company received 38 letters from Members of Parliament during the period June to 2895. SHRI P. V. PERIASAMY; November, 1977. Final replies have Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND been sent to 30 of these letters. The TRANSPORT be pleased to state: remaining eight, received during (a) whether the proposal to set up November, 1977, are being attended to. Indian Road Construction Corporation Information in respect of MPs. letters in the Public sector has been given addressed to the other Officers of the up; and Company is being compiled and will be laid on the Table of the House. (b) if so, the reasons therefor? 65 WHItin A n iw e n AGRAfiAYANA 1*. 18M (SAKA) Written Avwtoers 6^

THE MINISTER OF S t ATE IN- from extra-terrestrial invasions in the CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF future” : and SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT: (SHRI CHAND R A M ): (a) No, Sir. (b) if so, Government’s reaction thereto? (b) Does not arise. THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI Decline in the Profitability of the MORARJI DESAI): (a) Yes, Sir. Shipping industry (b) The Press Report is based on 2896. SHRI SHANKERSINHJI an article which appeared in a British VAGHELA: Will the Minister of journal. There are various theories SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT be in this regard many of which have yet pleased to state: to be verified. (a) whether the Indian Shipping Industry whose profitability has come Expansion of Capacities with Afini- down considerably due to world-wide mum Capital investmeot recession is likely to continue to face bad days during the current year with 2898. SHRI SHIV SAMPATI RAM: their cash flow returns becominjg Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be smaller than before; and pleased to state: (b) if 30, the reaction of Govern- mcnt thereto? (a) whether he had advised the in- dustrialists to expand their capacities THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- with minimum capital investment or CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF utilise the existing capacities to the SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI fullest extent: and CHAND RAM ): (a) On present indi- (b) the reaction of industrialists to cations, this may well happen. this call? (b) It is primarily for the compa- nies concerned to adopt suitable THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY measures to maximise their pet earn- (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a)' ings. However, depending upon the and (b ). Yes, Sir. While addressing merits of each case, the Shipping the Bombay Chamber of Commerce Development Fund Committee has been recently, in the context especially of extending various types of reliefs to the situation prevailing in the cement deserving shipping companies. industry, I had advised the cement industry to expand their capacity with minimum capital investment or utilise News item Captioned “Diseases come the existing capacities to the fullest from Space’’ extent. This statement has been well- 2897. SHRI ANANT DAVE: WiU received. the Minister of SPACE be pleased to state: Reconstitation of Advisory Boards oC (a) whether Government have seen AIR Stations a press report which appeared in the Hindustan Times dated the 23rd Nov- 2899. CHAUDHURY BRAHM PRA- ember, 1977 to the effect that two KASH: Will the Minister of INFOR- world renowiied astronomers have MATION AND BROADCASTING be said that diseases and epidemics on pleased to state; earth actually come from space and have called for a “continual micro- (a) whether <^vernment i« deter, biclofiical vigil of the stratosphere to mined to bring AIR and DporiiMshan eliminate the havot which ««Bue under autonomous corportttionf • ‘ ' 3091 L.S.-S . >67 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, IS77 Written Ansioers 68

(b) if so, when; (c) whether in the meantime it is if ’RTT W I; proposed to reconstitute the regiona) advisory boards of the various radio (^r) spTT stations in the country; and I « fk ?rrTf«T?r ^ M

(d) when this reconstitution of ad- fMN" IJTT ^ visory boards is likely to be com- pleted and if completed, the persons appomted on various advisory boards? ij^ Tn»» t Vo qrftH) :(^) ^ (^). THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K. ^ Tft I ?ffT ^ % 72^ 'TT ADVANI); (a) and (b). A working ^nrnft I Group to examine the fimctioning of Akashvani and Doordarshan and to make recommendations regarding Special Pay Drawn by I.A.S. Officers future set-up, has been set up under the Chairmanship of Shri B. G. Ver- 2901. SHRI S. NANJESHA GOWDA: ghese, an eminent journalist. The WiU the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS Group is expected to give its report be pleased to state: by 16th February, 1978. (a) the total number of I.A.S. offi- cers in the country; (c) and (d ). Yes, Sir. Reconstitu- tion of Advisory Committees is under (b) the number among them draw- consideration. ing special pay over and above pay in their time scales; and (c) the justification, if any, for srermsT if “f such special pay? w i f ^ srifimlf V V lhlR t THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS 2900. TT3T : =Pn njj (SHRI S. D. PATIL); (a) The number «fni^ ^ fTTT ; of serving IAS officers at present is 3513. This figure excludes the num- ber of officers who, having attained (^) srvmR % fffVm the age of superannuation during the sfh: f w n r if frnjrf^rarR last six months, might have been granted extension in service by the ?T«TT ^nhrrferf ^ State Government concerned, under wwr SPTT I ; their own powers, for a period of 6 months beyond the date of superan- («r) ^ nuation. (b) Information is being collected infsrir ^rrf^TTft and would be laid on the table of the House. ^ ?rh: #«qr w r t ^ 3 ^ (c) Special pay is granted in con- yfffxidai w r I; sideration of the specially arduous nature of the duties, or a specific addition to the work or responsibility, (»r) WT m ft t or the unhealthiness of the locality in which the work ft lerformed. Manufacturing Uranium from Sea (~) m ifit, ~ I 1952~, Waters \iJ";fi'Cf i:'t If<:M if .,~1~~ ~,crtf 1976 ~fu~11f~ OillOlififld CfllT'"Irfu:rr t.f~~r~ij-~QRr ~ 2904. '-'lT~~~: =rn mr :1; W(I' if wm ij-orOi1T ~ Cfl'( ~ iRft ~ OfcrA qir ~mIW CfCfl" ~ it srfuf~ ~rfu.n ~ ~ ~ mn:r ~T Cf'fi ~r ifit \jff.'fa-; rm:r ~ ili ~m 'fiT ~ ~, ~ ~ ;;rr ij"'fiCfT~ f.t; mf'q"TqT m~, 1 9 6 3 (~) ~ ~\ifr lfT!';lPi ~ ~Cf1 "firm-u 3( 1) if; :I;f,!~ mn:r ~ f.f;ir ifi't ~n:r, \if) 1947 ij- ?!err ij- ~i mcm:t ~ ifi ~ ~T w.rl ij- ~ \31Tlr);r m ~ if; ~ if; ~ ~ iT; ~1f);r ~ tm?: ~ Cf!t ~ ? if ~ ~ ~ rn 1+; fult m- ~ ~141f",Cf ctT \ifRIT ~, ~r 'f}4-- ~ ~ ("11 ~ f~) : ("fi) 'ifJf~T 'fiT ~ '1rT sr:r);r 'fi~ if; ~ ~ffi.p.,ql ij- 50,334 ~riT1f~ ~~ 'ifT fiwrr ~ ~ ~ ~ silctll~<1 ~ Cfl1l":flf,(llT it ~~ m'fln: [TU ~ ~ ~ 'fiT ~ ~ f-;ffl1 it ~r 'fiT sr:rTif Cfl"{::r ~ f.t;1t I>1'A' ~ 1 ~I 71 'WHftkn Aniioeti ClSCEMflfcll 7, IftfT 'thiti^ri Answert 7*

W'% *rfdr<«W, ^ *r (c) Apart from party political broad- casts during the elections, AIR and 80 j r f ^ % ? r ^ ^FPhrm^ Doordarshan do not invite persons to- 5TH 7^ I, g7| T13|iHmi broadcast on the basis of their party spfhnft s: % T s r ^ ) f?rqTT, 1976 ^ affiliations but on the basis of their suitability for particular programmes. 10( 4) % srtffsr ^rflr^f^ A large number of persons represent- =EiTf^ %ftX ^7P^f?RT ir ^ 5 ® ing the opposition parties have parti- ^ 8 ( 4) ^ S T ^ f^iTT cipated in AIR and Doordarshan pro- grammes in the last three months. ^ IT ^ I, ^ ^ ^ ^ fb:tr»fr, Hfttao” ^c^rrfr ^ % firij ^ “ Garibi Scheme ^ntnrr 1 2906. SHRI D. B. CHANDRE GOWDA; Will the Minister of PLAN- NING be pleased to state: Existence of Press Censorship and (a) whether Government have Nwi-CoTeraKe of visit of tlie Former framed any new scheme for ‘Garibi Prime Minister to J and K Hatao’ to be completed in certain 2905. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA; Will period; and the Minister of INFORMATION AND J (b) if so, the main features thereof? BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

(a) whether the Opposition naa THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI accused that the press censorship is MORARJI DESAI); (a) and (b). Gov- still in existence and the fact is evi- ernment have decided to revise the dent that coverage of the former development strategy and to restruc- Prime Minister’s visit to J and K was ture investment priorities to attack the not allowed to be published and only related problems of poverty and un- some references in some papers had employment and underemployment. come; The relevant policies and programmes designed to achieve the objective of (b) if so, whether it has also come removal ol unemployment and substan- to the notice that these papers are tial unaeremployment within a definite being asked not to give much publicity time <"rame will bo outlined in the Plan to the Opposition; and for 1978— 8H.

(c) whether for the last three months only once or twice the Oppo- All India Linguistic Conference held sition has been invited to broadcast at Calcutta through the radio and television? 2907. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will the Minister of HOME' AFFAIRS be THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION pleased to state: a n d BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K. (a) whether Prime Minister had ADVANI); (a) and (b). Censorship was sent a message to All India Linguistic. lifted on 18th January 1977 with the Conference held at Calcutta on Octo- announcement of General Elections to ber 1. 1977; the Lok Sabha. The Press is now en- tirely free and Government has no say (b) whether the resolution adop- over what it publi^es; Hence the ted in the Conference expressed' question of giving any instruction^ to anxiety and apprehension of the non- the Press for not giving publicity to Hindi speaking people regarding over^ the Opposition does not arise. emphasis about the present policy o3f* Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers '13 74

Hindisation being pursued by the THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE 1.. Government; (SHRI ): (a) No,Sir. The Prime Minister left Delhi for - _ (c) whether the policy statement Bihta on 21st August, 1977 by an 'about 'Official Language' and 'Link Indian Air Force aircraft and left Bihta •I J...

TlclE".IINISTER OF STATE IN THE '\j ot applicable. MDlISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS ;(SHRI S. D. PATIL): (a) Yes, Sir. Clearance from Central Government regarding launching Prosecution (b) The Government have not reo against fOrmer C.M. of Tamil Nadu ceived any Communication about re- solutions passed in the All India Lin- 2909. SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: Will guistic Conference. the Minister of HOME· AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) Yes, Sir. (a) whether the Chief Minister of (d) At present, there is no proposal Tamil Nadu has asked for clearance to hold a meeting of Chief Ministers from the Central Government for for this purpose. However. the Gov- Iaunching prosecution against Shri ernment will soon be convening an Karunanidhi, former Chief Minister of Official Language Conference of all the Tamil Nadu and some of his colleagues _,_States. Various problems faced by the On the basis of the findings of the \ States in the use of their Official Lan- Sarkaria Commission; and gauges for their official purposes will (b) what is the reaction of the ~be discussed in the Conference. Central Government?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Use of I.A.F. Plane by P.M. in MINISTRY OF HOME .'\FFAIRS August, 1977 (SHRI S. D. PATIL): (a) No, Sir.

(b) Does not arise. 2008. SHRI K. RAMAlVIURTHY: Will .the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased British Aid to India for Shipping to state: 2910. SHRI PRASANNBHAI ME- (a) whether Prime Minister had HTA: Will the Minister of SHIPPING used I.A.F. plane on 21st August, 1977 AND TRANSPORT be pleased to j, for meeting Shri J ayaprakash state: Narayan; and (a) whether U.K. Government have (b) if so, for how many hours, what told the Union Minister of India during his recent visit to that country extent of miles it was used, how that the current level of British aid much expenditure was incurred and may not be maintained unless there who met that expenditure? 75 Written Armoert DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 76

is continued understanding by the written by Shri Daniaj Latify entitled recipient country; “India’s Northern Border” published in “Seminar” in September, 1977 (b) if so, whether he has also stated issue; that the deal currently under nego- tiation for the purchase of six cargo ships from British shipyards will be (b) if so, the reaction of Govern- a test case for utilisation of British ment thereto; aid;

(c) whether the main objection of (c) whether the article refers to not accepting the deal is that India Anderson Committee report; has pointed out that there is a sharp difference in the prices between Bri- (d) whether Government are con- tish and Japanese shipyards; and sidering the proposal to publish th& said report; and (d) if so, the reaction of the Indian Government to the British thereat? (e) if not, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- CHARGE OF THE MINIST3RY OF SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE CHAND RAM): (a) to (d). During my (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) Govern- discussions with Mrs. Judith Hart, the ment have seen the article written by British Minister for Overseas Develop- Shri Danial Latifi entitled “India’s ment on the 4th November 1977, Mrs. northern border” published in the Hart did express anxiety about the September, 1977 issue of “ Seminar". under-utilisation of British aid extend- ed to India in the last 2-3 years and (b) The stand of the Government of mentioned that the quantum of future India on the differences between India aid would naturally depend on utilisa- and China on the border question is tion of funds already made available well-known. to India. In this context she referred to the purchase of cargo ships from The Government of India believe^ U.K., which could lead to a substantial that all outstanding issues between utilisation of aid funds in the current India and China including the border, year. There is no question of any question should be settled through threat being given by Britain in this peaceful bilateral negotiations on the matter. basis of the Five Principles and in con- formity with India’s interests, national The prices quoted for the British dignity and honour. • ships are, significantly higher than those prevailing in the Japanese ship- Wff do not believe that the differences yards. The British offer is being con- on the border question need be an 'lidered by the Government in the obstacle to the improvement of rela- overall economic context. tions with China on the basis of the Five Principles including the prin- Publishing of Anderson Committee ciples of reciprocity and mutual benefit. Report .

2911. SHRI DINEN BHATTA- (c) There is a reference to a report CHARYA: Will the Minister of DEF- by Maj. Gen. (sic) Lt. Gen. Henderson ENCE be pleased to state; Brooks.

(a) whether attention of Govern- (d) and (e). Government do not pro- ment has been drawn to an article pose to publish the said report Wrttten A n tm m AGRAHAYANA 16, WM {SAKA) Written Anra«r« 78 77

sitw ^ v m v n if PlrsdmCkoa o f Cottos ' fftr ?ftw % ^iwwiTwt w i f ftwn ifPTT 2914. SHRI & S. SOMANI: WUl the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 2912. «ft ^y%5T : W ^ *1? «lcfl^ ^ ^i'h I ; (a) whether Central Government have conducted any survey in regard (^) ^ oTTwrr +wT^w, ^3vR to the production of cotton; 51^ ^ ?rk (b) whether Central Government ^riT^Tfwt ^ ^Vii ^ ^ ?n^-?rr3 have given preference to the State of Rajasthan also in this regard by pro- ^ % ^mrcr |, ^ psrri ^ viding more funds to the Cotton Cor- w ; ?rh: poration of India so that it could lift more cotton from the Mandis of the ( ^ ) v Ph’'^Ilf 5TRT ®r>3rTr ^ State; ^ % arr^ Jr n(i»»Md1 q r w t (C) whether Government feel that ^ q t I ? the support price for cotton of Rs. 250 fixed by the Government for cotton *T5 W^IFW 4*t^Trw *hrt 4 («ft this year is a too low figure which would discourage the farmers to go ^ o (^ ) I for this production next year; and

( ^ ) vmwr j^RTxratrr 1 1 (d) if so, whether Government pro- pose to review the position sympa- thetically in this regard? Quantity of Raw Jnte purchaaed by the J.CJ. tiU date THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY 2913. SHRI CHITTA BASU; WiU (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased No, Sir. Surveys for estimation erf per to state: hectare yield are organised by the concerned State Governments. (a) the total quantity of raw jute purchased by the J.C.I. till date; (b) No, Sir. (b) the total amount of money (c^ No, Sir. placed at the disposal of J.C.I. for the purchase of jute; and (d) Does not arise. (c) the number of purchasing cen- tres opened in the country side? J-C.I. given free hand in Commercial THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY Parcliase (SHRi GEORGE FERNANDES); (a) Till 2-12-1977 Jute Corporation of India 2915. SHRI SAUGATA ROY: Will has purchased 57,475 bales of 180 kg. the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased ^aeh of raw jute. to state:

(b) Bs. .S7 crores. (a) whether Jute Corporation has been given free hand in commercial (c) J.C.I. have opened 100 Depart- purchase this year; and mental Purchase Centres and 26 Sub- Centres in the jute growing States for (b) the result of this decision on carrying out their purchase operations. jute prices? 80

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY M ao^ment of Slok Textile Mills (SHRI GEORGE I*fe^ANt>ES); (a) and (b). The Jute Corporation of India 2917. SHRI P. S. RAMALINGAM: have been permitted to go in for com- the Minister of mOUSTJRY be pleased Hoemal operations with effect from 1st to state: October, 1977. However, sitice prices of raw jute have continued to remain (a) whether National Textile Cor- ■well above the minimum suoport levels poration has been asked not to take ell through the current season, no over management of sick mills in large scale purchase could be made future; and having significant impact on prices. (b) if so. the rationale of this move and the alternative steps proposed for management of sick units? Cement quota for Jammu and Kashmir THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY 2916. SHRI MOHD. sHAFi QURE- (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES); (a) SHI: Will the Ministry of INDUSTRY and (b). Since the NTC is already be pleased to state: shouldering a heavy responsibility of managing l05 cotton textile mills. Gov- ernment do not favour taking over of (a) the quota of cement fixed by the Government of India for Anant- more sick or closed mills for manage* ment by the NTC.- Selectively, how- nag, BaramuUa and Srinagar Districts ever, efforts are made to reopen closed in the Kashmir valley; mills which are basically viable in consultation with the State Govern- (b) whether the cement in these ments and the banks concerned. If the districts is supplied at subsidized rates; State Government at its own initiative, and comes up with a proposal for the take- over of a closed or sick mill, which is (c) if so, the quantity supplied to basically viable, on the basis that the each district? State Government would take financial and management responsibility Cen- tral Government would render ad- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY ministrative and legal assistance for (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) takeover of the mill for management and (c). The Government of India do by the State Government. not fix district-wise quotas for cement. Bulk quotas are fixed for each State National Policy for Handloom Industry out of which the conccmerl S+ate Gov- ernments make the district-wise allo- 2918. SHRI EBRAHIM SULAIMAN cations. SAIT: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) For supply of cement at the headquarters of these districts, a sub- (a) whether Government have de- sidy at the following rates is allowed cided to earmark production of certain towards the transport charges from varieties of cloth exclusively for the Jammu, which is the rail-head serving handloom sector, if so, the details the State: thereof; and (b) the details of the arrangements Ananttiag—Rs. 60.80 per tonne made for the availability of technolo- Srinagar —Rs. 71.20 per tonne gical and financial assistance for the handloom sector through Government BaramuUa—Rs. 83.00 per tonne agencies? 8i Written i4nstW!rs !^GRAHAYAljlA^^, .1899 (SAKA) Written Answers g2

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY mills have failed to fulfil their obUga- (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) tion of producing the stipulated quota The Government have already reserv- of controlled cloth; and ed following lines of production ex- clusively for the handloom industry (b) if so, what further steps Gov- and from time to time new items are ernment propose to take that the included for manufacture by the mills produce the stipulated quota of handloom sector:— controlled cloth?

(1) Dhoties (of specified width THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY etc.) SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: (a) and (b). Production of controlled cloth (2) Lungis and Gamchas. during the first 3 quarters of the (3) Chaddars, Bed-sheets, Bed- current year has been as follows in covers & counter pane. relation to the level of 100 sq. metres expected to be produced cverv (4) Low reed pick cloth. quarter:— “ (5) Table cloth and napkins. Jan-March 1977—96.30 mil. .sq. 6 ( ) Dusters or duster cloth or metres wiper cloth or glass cloth. April-June 1977.—84.35 ml. sq. (7) Cloth of plain weave of warf metres and waft counts 85 and be- low and with width exceed- July-Sept 1977—81.16 mil. sq. ing 101.60 Cm. metres (provisional) (8) Sarees (Coloured etc.) There has been a shortfall in the pro- duction mainly due to exemptions (9) Towels. that had to be granted to financially (10) Mashru cloth. weak mills in order to avoid closures. From the quarter beginning October, (11) Cotton crepe fabrics 1977, in order to secure production of 100 million sq. metres of controlled (b) Central Government had releas- cloth without increasing the obliga- «d loans and grants amoimting to tion on non-exempt mills, mills which about Rs. 13.28 crores during the year had derived the benefit of exemption J976-77 and about Rs. 12.02 crores for at least 12 months have also been during 1977-78 (till date) to the brought under the obligation to the State (governments, Corporation and extent of the shortfall between the Societies for implementation of obligation normally fixed on non- certain schemes for the benefit of the exempt mills and the level of 100 handlo’om industry. In addition there million sq. metres. is a provision of Rs. 62 lacs in the Plan Budget during 1977-78 for the training and developmental pro- Take over of Direct Marketine activi- grammes of the Weavers’ Service ties by Coal India Centre and the Indian Institute of 2920. SHRI ROBIN SEN: Will the Handloom' Technology. Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Non-fuifliment of Obligation of produc- uig: Stipulated Quota of Controlled (a) whether the Coal India Ltd. Ooth propose to take over direct market- ing activities in larger urban areas; 2919. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: Will 'he Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased (b) if so, when and the details ^0 state: thereof; and fa) whether despite Government's (c) the reaction of GoTermnent repeated appeal, {he cottofi tactile thereto? 83 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, W77 'Written Ansvoers 84

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY distributed in the various States as (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) to under:— (c). Caal India do not propose to take over direct marketing of coal in large West Bengal 56 urban areas. However, the move- Bihar 3 ment of soft coke on a self-consignee basis is at present being done by Coal Assam 1 India in Delhi, Chandigarh and certain U. P. areas of Uttar Pradesh. 3 Andhra Pradesh 4 Madhya Pradesh 15-Point Guideline for Investment in 1 Rural Industrialisation The actual consumption of raw 2921. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will the jute by all the mills during 1976-77 Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to amounted to 68 lakh bales of raw jute state; against the estimated crop of 71 lakb bales. (a) whether it is a fact that Gov- ernment have decided on a 15-point giude line for investment in rural industrialization; Prices of Cotton

(b) if so, the full details thereof; 2923. SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: Will the Minister of INDUS- TRY be pleased to state: (c) the programmes that will be taken up, the method of financing the schemes and the agencies which will (a) what steps Government o f be entrusted with their execution; India propose to take so that cotton and growers do not face any diflaculty about marketing of cotton and prices (d) the targets set for area cover- are not allowed to be depressed too age in each State and for creating much in cotton marketing centres; self-employment in the current year? and (b) present level of prices of cotton THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY in important mandis as compared to (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a). last year? No, Sir.

(b) to (d). Do not arise. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) and (b). The Cotton Corporation of Names of Jute Mills getting: inadequate India has entered the important supply of Raw Jute markets and is purchasing kapas at market rates in open bidding in com- 2922. SHRI YUVRAJ: WiU the petition with private traders. Pre- sence of the Corporation in the impor- Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to tant mandis ensures that the prices state the total number of jute mills are not depressed too much and the together with their localities and the growers do get a fair price for their extent to which their requirement of raw material fall short? produce. However, with a view to protect the interests of cotton growers, the Government has already announced THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY the minimum support price for pro- (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): minent varieties of kapas for the There are 68 jute mills in the country cotton season 1977-78. 85 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA IB, 1899 (SAKA) Written An«wer« 86.

Present level of prices of kapas (raw cotton) in important mandis as compared to last year are as under:

(Rate per quintal of kapas)

State Centre Variety Last year’s Current price year’s price Rs. Rs.

I 2 3 4 5

Punjab Coniana J-34 411 399

Punjab . . Abohar J-34 411 398

Haryana . Fatehabad J-34 430 380 to 436

Haryana . Dabawali J -34 442 395 to 408

Haryana . . Sirsa J-34 432 365 to 459- Haryana . . . Fatehabad Desi 209 350 to 3V'2.

Haryana . . Oabawali Dcsi 285 368

Haryana . Sirsa Desi 2R2 357 to 375i

Rajasthan . Sriganganagar J -34 4* • to 435 300 to 414

Rajasthan . Srikaranpur J-34 415 to 474 38410423 Rajasthan . Padampur 320-F 416 to 428 390 to 414

Rajasthan . Srikaranpur 320-F 435 t° 458 437 Mahara^ihtra . — A.K. 230 398 to 425 ,

Maharashtra . — Y-i 241 433 Maharashtra — H-4 492 to 459 34V( ^ Madhya Pradesh . Burhanpur A-51/9 385.to’ 577 445 to 459 Madhva Pradesh . . Khandva A-51/9 430.10^576 444 to 452

Brain Drain the measures taken are indicated in; the statement attached. 2924. SHRI V. A. SEYID MUHAM- MED: Will the Minister of PLAN- NING be pleased to state; Statement (1) A monthly “Technical Man^ (a) whether there is any proposal under Government’s consideration to power” Bulletin is published giving check the brain drain from the coun- particulars of persons who are avail- try; and able for employment. About 2,500 copies of the Bulletin are distributed (b) if so, the main features there- free to the various employing orga- of? nisations to facilitate utilization of such persons. THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) and (b). (2) Suitable candidates are recom- The Government of India are conti- mended in response to requirements nuously considering means to check notified to the CSIR by employers and ‘Brain Drain’ from India. Some of recruiting bodies. 9 7 ^ ' .^ntten Aiutoers DECEIkffiEB 7, 1977 > Written Answers 88

(3) The CSIR also scrutinises ad- (12) CSIR have introduced a vertisements appearing in important scheme for Research Asaociateship newspapers and makes recommenda- which may be created in a laboratory tion of registrants with appropriate when the Director considers it qualifications for consideration against necessary to have services of a senior these advertisements. research worker of a specialisation for a specific project for short dura- (4) Research Fellowships are offer- tion. An Associate, during his tenure, ed by the CSIR. UGC, ICMR, etc. will work in the specific project and depending upon his performance and (5) Research Schemes in Universi- potentialities may be later considered ties and other institutions are finan- 'or permanent absorption in the ced by different agencies and thus Laboratory. generate employment.

(6) The Scientists’ Pool scheme operated by CSIR provide temporary placement to Scientists, Technologists, Doctors, etc., with high academic 2 9:^5. : records. !PTT ^ ^ (7) The scheme of supernumerary appointments is in -operation for quick ^ ir ^ e o absorption of highly qualified scien- tists and technologists.

( 8) Financial assistance is rendered by nationalised banks to enterprising ^ sprr unemployed persons. 1978-79 ffrPT ^ ^ ^ (9) Scientists engineers and tech- nologists are encouraged to set up their own enterprises. The Public Sector Banks provide the total capi- tal needed for such ventures. ^ frrr ?rnr % r (10) Industrial Co-operatives form- ed by Scientists, engineers, technolo- gists. etc., with specific projects in view would be entitled to a Govern- ment contribution to the equity capi- f r e t JTfTcft ^ f w r a tal to the extent of three times the % jfr^nTT if ^ capital subscribed to by the partners. In addition. State Governments would also provide facilities like infra- structure, rent subsidy in deserving ^ ^ ^ > rf T?r ^mfr frf cases, incentives like exemption for SfT I ^ a period from Sales-Tax, Octroi, elec- tricity duty, etc.

(11) "the UGC has also taken a number of measures to improve faci- I 1^ 1 9 7 8 -7 9 W ^5nfl’ T# ^nrnr lities. salary scales and working con- ifTt^; !f\T 4104V % ^ ditions. to attract a reasonable pro- portion of our men and women of % 5fpff ^ ^T^PTcTT J R t t JTtr high intellectual aMlity to the teach- ing profession. » r H

Setttiiff up of aBid 'f^bes Factory at MuBcalagiri in Andhra Pradeadi

2926. SHEI P. RAJAGOPAL NAI- DU: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (a) whether Government is pro- posing to set up a Tyres and Tubes sflT 'Jii'JiiPniif % Factory at Mungalagiri in Andhra 5mf«T5F ^ ^ f?rtr Pradesh; 5WT am ^ 'f %■ (b) if so, its estimate and its 'TTfJTJ ^ q m r capacity; and t ^ smeT'ii (c) when will it be established? I ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GFORGE FERNANDES): (a) The Cential Government has no pro- posal to set up a factory for manufac- ture Of tyres and tubes at Mungala- SPTTTt TTHT r m ) : (f:) giri in Andhra Pradesh. However, an industirial licence was issued to Andhra Pradesh Automobile Tyres ^ 200 fiRV ^'T % mqCT ^ IT>5RT and Tubes Ltd., Hyderabad on 23rd 5T sTnnfrT 30 ^ ^rrfcT k: July, 1975 for the establishment of I ?r? a new undertaking in Mungalagiri, District Guntur, Andhra Pradesh for 91 f?T ^'f ^ 20 ? R - the manufacture of automobile tyres ijTffr % srr ^ and tubes. JTf f I ^ (b) The total cost of the project is »TTT w ft ?r> ^ w ft fTo mo estimated at about Rs. 30 crores. The o ?ft o iTTsnrr ^ ^f cht cT licensed capacity of the project is 4 lakh nos. each of automobile tyres I I ?r«i% “ThnTR and tubes per annum. sfTTlf^Wf ” IT 50 IT ^ 7 ^ (c) According to the schedule of 5rrf?r ^ »Ffr implementation of the project pre- 5F3T ^ ari^ tr, pared by the company, trial produc- JTff I I tion is expected to commence in April, 1980. .

5f snfk w \T (»3') 'TTf^ ?TT#- . ir tt h m % w k «TTf*TH- Im IT ^ T -i^ d % f?rrr ^ onsf^i % siTcTra’ 2 92 7. «ft TW W qr 24-9-77 qfr^^f3nm=r

gw vymr ^ ^ ^ 3ft W^MT<1 TT3«T (b) whether the ancillary units at Jr wtT ^’Tnrlf ^ »Rff % Nepa Nagar could not be established due to the non-cooperative and un- ^srfj^ra' ti<.'tiiOf 5RT fnair

Treatment of Private Citizens as THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY V.V.LP. (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) At present there are five anicllary 2928. DR. BALDEV PRAKASH: units for the Nepa Mills. These cover items like alum^ sodium, silicate, grey "Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS castings etc. i e pleased to state: (b) and (c). Nepa Mills in colla- (a) the criteria for treating a boration with the Government of private citizen as V.V.I.P. by Gov- Madhya Praedsh Small Scale Indus- ernment; tries Promotion and Ancillary Indus- tries Development Wing have been making efforts to get more ancillary (b) whether some circulars were vmits established for the Nepa Mills issued to the States in 1976 to treat in and around Nepanagar. Technical certain private citizens as V.V.I.P. knowhow, drawings, samples and ne- during their tour in the States; and cessary guidance are made available to the entrepreneurs. Parties are en- (c) if so, the names of the persona? couraged to be present during the performance trials. If their products THE MINISTER OF STATE IN are found suitable due weightage in 7THE MINISTRY OF HOME AF- price is also extended. FAIRS (SHRI S. D. PATIL): (a) No criteria has been laid down for treat- Formulation of a New Cement Policy ing a private citizen as a V.V.I.P. 2930. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD (b) No circulars were issued to the VERMA: Will the Minister of IN- "States in 1976 for treating any private DUSTRY be pleased to state: •citizen as a V.V.I.P. (a) whether Government k con- (c) Does not arise. templating to formulate a new cement policy covering both short and long- term production, pricing and distribu- tion; TIo Ancillary Units of National News Print and Paper IVDlls Ltd. (b) if so, the salient features there- of;

2929. SHRI PARMANAND GO- (c) whether the question of import •VINDJIWALA: Will the Minister of of mini-cement plant is being consi- INDUSTRY be pleased to state: dered; (d) if so, the total amount of pro- (a) whether there are no ancillary duction to be raised, the cost of im- -units of National News Print and ported plants and places of locations ■PavsT Mins Ltd.; thereof and details of raw materials [whether r9ck-du«t or fly-ash w ill be (b) how the electricity generated [used: and by Damodar Valley Corporation has 'been distributed and through which (e) the steps being taken to check agencies, together with the quantum price-rise in cement and reported thereof? blackmarketing?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN); (a) and (b). A comprehensive pohey and (b). The information is being covering all aspects of production, collected and will be laid on the distribution and pricing relating to Table of the House. the cement industry is being formula- ted and the details would be annoiui- c-ed as soon as they are finalised. ^mTriR % 'h t Wh % v r a fm % (c) and (d). Amendment in lieu of new process technology for mini- cement plants developed in the Fede- 2 932. nftK ral Republic of Germany is being evaluated. A decision on the import SRTTT'T ^ ^ fTTT of mini-cement plants will be taken, only after a team of experts has Visi- ted the FRG to study the new plant and obtain all necessary details in 5fK I 'r iw h- this regard. At the same time steps to utilise indigenously developed technology in mini-cement plants are also being considered. w Vt snTTV»r w m (e) Th^ retail prices of cement are ffsor iUI«

THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE Involve substantial delay as well as (fBHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) Yes, enhancement in price. Calcutta Port Sir. Trust advised M /s. H.C.C. to cancel the order on them. M /s. H.C.C. then (b) and (c). Certain matters con- placed the order on M/s. Bird and nected with the welfare of Defence Co., who had earlier secured orders Personnel were discussed in a general for supply Of similar castings for the way in a meeting of the General Lock Entrance of Haldia Dock System Committee of the Army Central Wel- on the basis of competitive tender. fare Fund, whose members include all Army commanders. No plans were, The specifications in M/s. H.C.C. however, formulated. orders on M/s. Bird and Co., related to the physical properties of the (d) Does not arise. castings. It was, however, noted in the order that Molybdenum will have to be added to obtain the required Calcutta port Trust Officials tensile strengtfi. No percentage was indicated in this note. 2934. SHRI SUSHIL KUMAR DHARMA: Will the Minister of Certain difficulties were experienc- SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT be ed during the casting and machining pleased to state: of these castings. Calcutta Port Trust referred these to their Consultatns (a) whether Calcutta Port Trust who had originally given these speci- officials forced Mjs H.C.C. Ltd. Prin- ficationi. In view of the difficulties in. cipal Civil Contractor for Haldia, to getitng the specified grade of m ee- place order on M|s Bird & Co. can- hanite type castings, the Consultants celling the order on Mis Binny & Co. agreed to revision of specifications of Madras the patentees, for Meeha- while ensuring that corrosion aspect nite Plates for Lock Entrance and and the frictional characteristics were later accepted the sub-standard, less virtually the same. Supplies were in weight plates without molybdenum got inspected and accepted accord- content, as proved in test at Alipore ingly. There was no acceptance of Test House and reported by M]s H.C.C. “ loss in weight” plates. Ltd. to CPT; (b ) No specific percentage of Moly- (b) what was the percentage of bdenum was indicated in the order Malybdenum required in the matter for meehanite plates. The supply o f and what was obtained in the sam- castings did not have Molybdenum, ple text made by the Alipore Test content. House; and (c ) No. (c) whether any CBl inquiry/in- vestigation has been initiated in this matter and what is their finding, if Production of Short Length Film* any? 2935. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAK- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TA- Will the Minister of INFOR- MATION AND BROADCASTING be CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT pleased to state; (SHRI CHAND RAM): (a) M/s. (a1 whether Government propose Binny and Co. Madras on whom to permit the production of shorter orders for meehanite castings were films of not more than 10 reels; and. placed inJicated to M /s. H.C.C. Ltd., that I.loyd’s inspection of the castings to be m mufactured by them would (b) if so, details theraof? 97 Written Answers AQ^AHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 98

THE MINISTER OF INFORMA- ( 2) ^mfWr i TION AND BROADCASTING (5HRI Li. K. ADVANI): (a) and (b). There js no restriction on the length of films ( 3) TT^ I ^ j dT produced in the private sector; per- sppNif % ?TEft?r mission of Government is, therefore, fTT5% qrri' ?r?q% not required for producing films of liny length. 1973-74 % 1977-78 ir Tl^rPTT^ ?rr ^ TTJqT 5FT Cr *lf W iw r TSrT ^ ^mdT fw smi T’t r

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•3^?fWf % fjR W % ftit TF3HT O } sFt f^pir? ^T^rq^T fa:^ 30% % ir ^ (»t ) w Tm lf ^ ncT qpR ^ sR^rra- fVr%^rr ^ ^ H ^ »rf Tdw iT3r f^=5riT ^ ^ ’TT I -THT rrsf: ?mr q3?T 'R Tm irnniT; Production and Export of Coir (W) SPTT ^ / M w rq TTsqr % wW'tf’HT I 2937. SHRI KUMARI ANANTHAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be fiw z »rf^cir ir T m srtf pleased to state :>

(a) the details of Coir products ( t ) Jifg eft rI?HTgT£ft 5iflTT produced, exported, marketed in India from various States during current w I ? year; and

(b) the steps taken to exploit the ^3^ ^ qsrfsifirB) : law materials available at Kanyaku- (^ ) I mari Distt. in Tamil Nadu?

(^ ) ^33cTT I THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) (»r) ^ ^ %ftK f r o t A statement is laid on the Table of TT ^ ^ the House. rKHfgffacf jftWtT STFftf^ ^ I :— (b) As most of the raw materials available in Kanyakumari District are ( 1 ) ?IT*fhT Tf^tlPTr already utilised, no further special «FT4^ I efforts appear to be necessary. 99 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 100

Statement Strength of Tralninc Reserve of CISF

Stateir.ent showing production etc. 2938. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR: WUI of coir and coir products in major the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be coconut growing- States during 1976- pleased to state the strength rank- 77 wise of the training reserve of the Central Industrial Security Force in Lakh Delhi? tonnes THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Statewise THE MINISTRY OF HOME AF- Kerala . I -41 FAIRS (SHRI S. D. PATIL):

Tamil Nadu Comandant — 1 Karnatka O.O'j S Asstt. Comdts. — / 1 ’6o Sub-Inspt. — 9

Asstt. Sub. Insp. — 12 ItemuUse tonnes |,(i) CoirFibrcJ 5,000 Head Security Guards — 1 I [(ii) Coir yarn 9,0000 Security Guards — 14

(iiij Coir products . 29,000 Followers — 10

(iv) Coir ropes 17,000 T.V. station at Ahmedabad (v) Curled Coir . 2,500 2939. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: (vi) Rubberised coir 1,000 Will the Minister of INFORMATION i,4«.500 AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

Exports Export during 1976-77 was (a) whether the Government of of the order of 44,357 tonnes valued Gujarat have made a strong represen- at Rs. 227.76 millions. Of this, Kerala tation to the Central Government foi- shared ninetyflve (95 per cent). Ex- setting up a full-fledged Television port froi^ Karnataka was in small station in Gujarat at Ahmedabad and quantities of curled coir which also for establishing an additional and amounts to 525 tonnes. strength ;ned radio-transmisSion in South Gujarat at Surat; lu'^rnal c^'isumption of coir products: (b) if so, Government’s response thereto; Itemwise Tonrus (c) whether the Government of Coir fibro . 4,866 Gujarat have offered to make avail- able free land and other facilities to Coir Yarn . • 68,433 the Centre for these purposes; and Coir prodii.-ls ' 2.393 (d) if so, the reasons for delay and Co'r rope 16.815 foj- not doing anything further in these matters? • Curled Coil 1,632 THE MINISTER OP INFORMA- Rubberisrd coir . 1 ,000 TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI i.05»>44 L. K. ADVANI): (a) In a recent communication the Government of lo i \Vritteii Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers io 2

Gujarat has urged that a 10 KW TV transmitter with studio facilities be set up at Gandhinagar. There is no request from that Government in the recent past for setting up a radio sta- tion at Surat. 2941. ^

(b) to (d). As far as Television is ^ irq-r concerned, the State Government has offered land for the transmitter and f r : .studio at Gandhinagar free of cost. The request of the State Government (>>) fqr I has been noted but its implementation will depend upon availability of re- Wferf I’M! % ^ it soui’ces and allocation of priorities by the Planning Commission. c.

As regards radio station at Surat, no offer of free land has been receiv- ed from th State Government. Surat, { ^ ) I fwr incidentally, is within the service area of the high power medium wave ?rrfeef ^ transmitter at Ahmedabad. However, provision for setting up a full-fledged w f t ?TT^fV ; radio station at Surat was included in ihe Fourth Plan but it was not appro- (»T) jrf? grt ^ 3 ^ WT fTfmPA' ved by the Planning Commission. At present, there is no proposal for sot- «ff ?rk it ^ wr ung up a radio station there. «rrlf^T t ;

Pension to participants of Moplah Rebellion (^r) ^q-T t

2940. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAP Wi ^ ^ ^ ir PAN: Will the Minister of HOME j t f t ^ ^ t ; AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Kerala State Gov- rnment has requested the Govern- (l^) 'T'^ ^ ^ iient for treating Moplah Rebellion of ^ ^snrnfj- ? ’921 as part of the freedom movement for the purpose of granting Central Jension; and sr^nmT («ft ht5t n>) if so, what is Government’s '‘^('ision thereon? fWFT :( ^ ( ’f ) :

f t I the MINISTER OF STATE IN the MINISTRY OF HOME AF- -'AIRS (SHRI S. D. PATIL): (a) No, ( j t ) ^ (3^) 5^^ Sii-, T?: ^RT^fVrr # «ft P5FT% (b) Government have decided that 'ho Moplah Rebellion of 1921 should f%tr t TT STTfr ^lot be treated as part of the national •‘''iGdoni movement. 1 1 iTTiff ^ srr^r ^ 3tt 1 1 103 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 104

(b) whether it is also a fact that such m:i'-'li>f'ery lias been stit up in

2 94 2. sft mnsft ^ ? igr> *T ' (c) vvliat steps Government propose to take to sot up such a machinery so that the grievances of the people ^re (^ ) ^ 5 7 m n z ( t f ? - removed at the earliest? *mfr) if ^ f ^ i

gtcrr 1 5TR i' g-R ^T’’- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ’TR^rrfe: T^?TI^ ^IT?TT f%^?fr THE MINISTRY OF HOME AF- ^ ^ ?RirR t ; ?f|T FAIRS (SHRI S. D. PATIL): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. { ^ ) ^ fg^^TT’: (c) Government attaches great in*-- ^ 5rt ^ T ^ T t ? portance to the need for prompt and appropriate redressal of public grie- vances. Various steps, administrative <3?^^ *Nft 'Hl'Ji ) : and others, aimed at reducing the ( ^ ) (??). ^ ( t R- scope for grievances and for redres- ^^TR) ^ f ^ FfR^qf sal of such grievances, if any, have been taken and will continue to be 5 T ^ f. ;— taken as found necessary.

(ifto Z^) As it is, there is an existing mach- nery to deal with grievances and 1975 2,11,855 complaints. Apart from the compla- ints Officers in the various Depart- 197(S 2,19,784 ments and Ministries, there is also an institution of ‘Commissioner of 1977 1,7 3,886 Public Grievances', who takes up and pursues, with the concerned Depart- (3 F T ^ % 10 irnr) ments and Ministries, for appropria- te redressal, the grievances and com- 2 5rrw ifVo sfffT ^ TT q^t'cT plaints brought to his'notice and who generally coordinates the work of f^^mr ^ % %rr w ft the Complaints Officers. ^ 3rr^ f w J R T I f ST ^3f?qT^

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2944. SHRI PHOOL CHAND VER- MA: Will the Minister of HOME AF- Setting up of Machinery to review FAIRS be pleased to state; grievances of People (a) whether some Pakistani na- 2943. SHRI KANWAR LAL tionals who have been staying in GUPTA: Will the Minister of HOME India even after the expiry of their AFFAIRS be pleased to state: passports, were arrested in Indore, (a) whether it is a fact that A.R.C. Madhya Pradesh during October, recommended for setting up a ma- 1977; chinery to review the grievances of the people ; (Tj ) if so, the number thereof; Written kllswe1'S AGRAHA YANA 16, ]899 (SAKA) Written Answers l JrJ

(c) whether Government are (iii) to build up a reserve of pu- 'ware that pakistani nationals have tential manpower to enable the ...)eCn staying \\'it.;10~1' passports in Armed Forces to expand rapidly in :> ,'ndore, Ujjain, Dewas, Shajapur. a national emergency. ;)h~n-, Khamdwa district for years ~_()gL:~lher;ann 3. An NCC Evaluation Comrr.ittee under the chairmanship of Dr. G. S. (d) if so, the action being taken Mahajani, Vice-Chancellor, Pune Uni- ;J\' Governmerit in this regard and versity, was set up in December, 1972. ille f'uli details thereof? The report of the Committee was received in 1974. This Committee had THE MINISTER OF STATE IN recommended that the existing aims THE IvIINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS 01 the NCe should be modified. (SHRI S. D. PATlLi: (a) to (d). The information is being collected. It 3. While the Mahajani Committee will be Iaid on the table of the House had relt that the first aim should con- as soon as it is collected. tinue as an ideal to be aimed at by the 'youth of the country, it however, Aims of N.C.C. suggested a slight ampl ification of the aims by inclusion of the words, 'spirit 2945. SHRI DILIP CHAKRA VAR- of sportsmanship'. This recommen- TY; Will the Minister of DEFENCE dation was accepted by "Government. be pleased to state: The Committee had also recommend- ed that the second aim viz., stimula- (a) the aims of the National Cadet tion of interest in' the defence of the Corps as declared in 1948; country to the widest possible extent was sought to be achieved by many .;J (b) whether there has been any agencies and that this aim should be change in these declared objects: recast suitably. While this recom- mendation of the Con:mittee was also (c) if so, reasons therefor; and accepted, it was felt that the stress should 110t be on NCC cadets being of (d) in view of the existence of assistance in the defence Of the COUll- )JSO and NSS emphasizing on games, try alone and instead this objective sports and social services whether it should cover even other types of as- is considered logical to include these sistance to the country that can be ~. programmes in the NCC Curricula? rendered by the cadets ana, therefore. the aim was modified accordingly. THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE Regarding the third aim also, the (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM) (a) to Committee had felt that a change was (d). A statement is attached. necessary as tlle 'origtnal aid had been formulated soon after the end of the Statement Second World War _and hence greater AIMS OF NCC stress had then been laid on building up of a reserve of potential officers The aims of the NCe as declared in to enable the, armed Forces to expand 1948 were:- rapidly in a national emergency. The (i) To develop character, com- Mahajani Committee had felt that radeship, the ideal of service and under the changed circumstances the capacity for leadership in young third aim of NeC should be to enthuse men and women. and train as many cadets as possible for taking up Commissions in the (ii ) to provide service training to three Armed Forces. The Govern- young men and women so as to ment felt that the emphasis should be stimulate interest in the defence of on developing officer-like qualities to the country; and prepare cadets for all walks of life, 107 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers I08 thus also enabling them to obtain Com- missions in the Armed Forces and accordingly the revised aim as sug- ^ t ? gested by the Mahajani Committee with slight modification was adopted. TmVTW) : 4. The i-evised aims of NCC now {T‘) ^ ir read as follows: 24,109 iHIN'ld I, fW 12,648 (i)Development of leadership, inrraTj ^ smT it, character, comradeship, spirit of >0 N5 ’ sportsmanship and the ideal of ser- 2,170 ifirrsnz fs^m \ qTT-tTf^rt^ ir vice. m i 9291 inrrarc stw (ii) To create a force of disciplin-JTrdP^dl^ it t I ed and trained man power which in a National emergency could be of ( ^ ) 5gTT (tt). 5 1 ^ ^ TTSq- it assistance to the country. JTt^T ^ 3 ^ 4

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2 4 % 5TTJR 'IT f+ it f?T 2 46 . 3« NAIR: f*if^nT?r «rr i SHRI s. G. MURUGAIYAN Will the Minister of HOME AFF- rTTq- W f % irr»T% ir ^ 365 AIRS be pleased to state:

?ftT ^ 2 4 ^ srfmsznfrw ¥ r w (a) whether there ig a demand from certain quarters to form a separate ^ ^ ^TfTTT JT#f ft spfff^ State for the Jharkhand tribals in Bihar; and fw fs p T w t ^ ff ^ ^ (b) if so, what are the reasons 'Tf^TT I ?tY^: ?ftT ®T3ftjff pointed out in support of their T ^ fT ir 3t^77T g f ^ 't mand for a separate Adivasi State and what is the Government’s reac- m r y^Tii+ »r#ff % tion thereto? jp ^<>1 ?ltf9R: E^TFT IT w n THE MINISTER OF STATE IN I; I ^ it TT'JTT^ ir THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFF- AIRS (SHRI S. D. PATIL): (a) and 'fiT u: ‘^l’, (b). Yea, Sir. ^ JTT^ ir srrar ^rprm- |, As already explained in reply to ^ % TTfW % 5P5RTT ®fjJTT Starred Question No. 130 on 23rd November, 1977 and its supplemen- ^ a p *Tt>T ^ I I taries, the Government do not consi- der the present to be the appropriate time for taking up the question of re- T.V. S*ts in the Country organisation of any State.

a947. SHRI K. PRADHANI; Will Indo-Swiss Centre attached tn> C.SJ.O. the Minister of INFORMATION AND Chandigarh BROADCASTING be pleased" to state: 2949. SHRI GANGADHAR APPA (a) the total population in India BURANDE: Will the Minister of so far covered by our T.V. stations; PLANNING be pleased to state: and (a) whether the Indo-Swiss Train- (b) the number of T.V. sets in ope- ing Centre attached to the Central lation in the country and their es- Scientific Instruments Organisation, timated demand State-wise? Chandigarh, is affiliated to any Board of Technical Education or University;

THE MINISTER OF INFORMA- (b) what is the mode of conducting TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI examinations and awarding degrees to I* K. ADVANI): (a) 713 lakhs appro- the students and what are the checks ximately. to ensure impartiality and fairness; (c) whether reservations are made

been admitted to the Centre so far the Central Scientific Instruments during the last three years; and Organisation, Chandigarh for erection of an Electronic Score Board in one (e) how many of them have been of ihe New Delhi Sports Stadium; g'ven jobs in the CSIO?

(b) if so, whethf-r the project has THE PRIME MINISTER CSHRI been completed and Score Board has MORARJI DESAI): (a) The diploma been installed and is functioning satis- in Instrument Technology awarded by factorily; and Indo-Swiss Training Centre (ISTC) is recognised by the Ministry of Edu- cation. The Institute of Engineers (c) the total expenditure incurred (India) has also reTOgnised this dip- and how much time has been taken? loma for exumption from their stu- dentship examination. THE PRIME MINISTER (SHKI MORARJI DESAD: fa^ Yes, Sir. (b) The admission to the Indo-Swiss Training Centre is through an en- (b) Yes, Sir. trance examination. The trainnig is for a period of three years having tw’o (c) The project cost Rs. 3.52 lakhs semesters each year. Two periodical ;md was completed in about It years. tests are, held in a semester Except for the final examination, the answer sheets are always shown to the stu- Appointment of Deputy Commiaitaier dents and discussions held with them of Delhi Municipal Corporattai so that they become aware of their short-comings and are given a chance 2951. SHRI G. M. BANATWAULA: to point out discrepancies, if any. Pra- Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS ctical tests are also conducted along- bo pleased to state; with theory test and six teachers are associated in conducting the same. (a) the manner in which the ap- The semester result cards contain two pointment of Deputy Commissioner of types of grading, diligence and ‘pro- Delhi Municipal Corporation is made; ficiency’. In this grading system, the performance of the students in sytem- (b) whether this appointment is atically assessed continuously over the made at the recommendation of Cor- years. At the end of three years, on poration or by his Ministry; and the basis of performance of the candi- dates during the semesters and the (c) whether in the case of oflieers final examination the diploma is aw- of the various All India Service Cadre arded. who are at present on deputation to the Corporation, the promotion as (c) No. Sir. The CSIO is being D. C. is made by D.M.C. or by his asked to reserve seats for scheduled Ministry or by the Ministry control- casies/scheduled tribes trainees in ling the Cadre? future. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (d) and (e). Do not arise. THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI S. D. PATIL): (a) The ap Erection of Electronics Score Board in pointment to the post of Deputy New Delhi Sports Stadium Commissioner under the Delhi Muni- 2950. DR. SARADISH ROY: Will cipal Corporation is made in accord- the Minister of PLANNING be pleas- ance with the notified Recruitment Rules for the post, which prescribe ed to state. that 50 per cent of the posts will be (a) -whether New Delhi Municipal filled by officers on deputation and 60 Committee has sponsored a project to per cent promotion. II3 'Written Answers DECEMBER 7, ]977 Written Answers 114

(b ) The appointments to this post incurred by CSIO, Chandigarh for are made by the Municipal Corpora- participation in WlSSITEX EXHIBI- tion of Delhi. TION held at Delhi during the last year including the expenditure in- (c) When an officer belonging to cuiTed on T.A./D.A., purchase of All India Service cadre, whether of materials, engagement of labour and the Union Territories or of a State, awarding of contracts etc.‘! is considered for deputation on the post of Deputy Commissioner under THE PlUME MINISTER (SHm MCD, the proposal is processed b\' MORARJi DESAI): The Central Sci- the Ministry of Home Affairs. entific Instruments Organisation (CS- 10), Chandigarh have intimated that _<\nti-Submarine I'rigates all expenditure of Rs. 20,370.00 was incuned for participation in WISSI- 2952. DR. M URLI M AN O H AR JO - TEX EXHIBITION. No contract \-as SHI: Will the Mtnister of DEFENCE awarded by the Institute. be pleased to state:

(a) whether Government's attention has been drawn to the report publish- ('d in the sections of the press to the effect that the anti-f;ubmarine frigates 29 0 1. 'f7.rT I'ecently transferred to the Coast Guard Organisation are unsuitable for the role assigned to them and if so, the reaction of Government thereto; ( T ) '+rT"f and

(b) the progress made in setting up 'f.T f R T it if.T the Coast Guard Organisation and the t 'f.Tlff if.l' broad outline thereof? it "-RfT THE l\lINISTER OF DEFENCE t : (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. The anti-submarine trigates trans- ferred from the Navy to the Coast (»f)

(b) An interim Coast Guard Orga- ^ if ("'" nisation has been set up under an 1:tH0 " '0 ^ ^ ) : (if.) f ^ r ^ - Officer on Special Duty. This officer is engaged in preparing a detailed if, plan for a permanent 'Coast Guard f

^Expenditure inc^^^ by CSIO, C ^ a - ( 1 ) ^ ^ ^cligarh for participation in W i^itex if; if.T if.Tlf m .: Exhibition held at Delhi

2953. SHRI M UKUNDA M AN DAL: W il the Minister of PLANNING be ( 2) f ' f ' l if; m .: pleased to state the total expenditure if; ^ - 115 ’Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers Il6

^iTRT 55n^i?fT €r ^ pt - Setting up of Cement Factory in 24 Pargrana District of West Bengal ^frrPTT ^rraf- IT wrrm i 2955. SHRI M. A. HANNAN AL- HAJ; Will the Minister of INDUS- ( 3 ) TT^rwiT ^rfsriwT 'T. TRY be pleased to state: rf5Tr 5rf?T5T^ 5TTT t t s [-

¥rm ?ira'd> m -M f ? m (a) whether possibilities are being f w r ? m ?TEfpT explored for setting up of a cemextt factory in the backward area of 34 ^ ' t, ?FT^'T, ^^TTFqrf^pff. fjTWf ^ o ’ Pargana District of West Bengal; and ?rrf? ir q^'Tf=T^ ^ ^ ^Fwn I (b) if so, progress so far made in this regard and the time likely to be ( 4) fWJT 5TT TJ T-f^- taken to set up this factory in 24 Par- gana District? ’Tfrrf^ % % t ht if ^ WT THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY ^7?Rft ^ ’TT (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES); (a) No, Sir. «l/1 l'll, «<4+l (b) Does not arise. ?TTT =FT^oFrc. fT^TTT iT^r #5^ ir f r ? ^ fR-'n^ff ^ n i ^ T ^ rf ^T 'TTFqiT Capital cost and power cost and the I funds allocated by BA.E.L. for Research and Development ( 5 ) % snrrift aJTm r ^ ^ JimTT-WT 'p- 2956. DR. SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: ^ ?TF r*T ^ Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: i? Tr5f«TrTr ^ imanr j f t » n ^ i (a) the capital cost^ the power cost per KWH excluding distribution and ( 6) ?T^raT m r ?f?'4 ?TT%^ transmission cost, and the funds allo- rrmr ^r?7rr, cated by BHEL. for Research and Deve- lopment for the following three com- srftreriT ^ ?ftT peting technologies for power produc- yfETwrrf^f sp^T^rforf ^ tion in India: (i) polerised coal fired boilers with steam turbines; (ii) at- ^ g r ^ T ^ - mospheric fluidised bed boilers ^TR- ir ir^rrTTT ^ it with or without line scrubbing; ^ I (iii) coal gassiflcation] combined cycle plant with lurgitype gasifier; and ( s ) ?nfV f^»T?r Tfwnwf ?rh: ^iRrfvpff % 5rfk?T^ ^ rfW rM i (b) the progress made to date in the R & D programme of BHEL OQ ^ ?FnT-5n=PT ^ ^ 'r;mf these 3 technologies? q r f?ra% 7^ 1 1 % s frW f ^ ?TR % f?TTT ^iw l sft 3TT THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY J i^ t I f?|TT JTmr sft'sw! cfjTTT (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) and (b). The present day cajdtat ^ »RT t wh: ^ ?rf^ iT'T ferr cost in respect of thermal plants based 3fT 7?n 1 1 on pulverised coal fired boiler techn«- Il7 W’Tittcn Answers AG^AHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers n g

I'g y . presently used by BHEL, ranges Jrtm Rs. 1550 to Rs, 1650 per KW, fi£ pending on quality of coal, rating th(‘ set. si te location and scope "i supply'. The cost of generation at 2 9 5 7 . ^ ^ : th,ermal power station is dependent upon a number of factors, such as 'flIT * f r lI'lr ^ ..:.:.pital cost, lypo of cooling, type of cc al. cost of coal etc. Hence the cost o< generation varies from station to "I rdiem, The cost of generation at the pc -,';er station bus. as estinwied for trit; tht,, thi'i'mal plants. which have been rc-centl,\- appro\ed by the Central (I i) if; Electricity Authority \'aries from 13.30 ^ if; fu7f p^jse per unit (KW H) to 21.37 paise r unit. There are no power plants 'fit ^ ^ 'fit .,' yet. in the country based on fluidiz- bed 'Doilcrs or on coal gassification/ ermiiined cycle technologies nor do (l'f) ^ if; BlIEI. han' thest' technologies at pre- s':. "t. 'flIT 'flIT t 3HEL ha\'[' not allocated funds for f':,rr>'ing out research and development 'fiT ^ if, ""‘paratel.' for three technologies, 'flIT .\learly 100 R&D projects are going on c icfrently for improving the various ('Ef) cbamcterist ies of the conventional I'^lverised coal lired power systems ^ ^ 'fit r.i a total budgeted cost of around Rs.

THE MINISTER OF SPATE IN Pradesh Electricity Board has been CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF asked to pay special attention in this SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI regain. CHAND RAM): (a) to (c). Available statistics show that on 31-3-1975, Bihnr had an average suilaced road length Memorandum submitted by President of 12.4 Kms. per 100 sq. Km. of area of Sikkim National Congress as again.st the All-India corresponding ligure of 14.ti Kms. Proposals for 2960. SHRI K. B. CHETTRI; W' . making up the deficiency have cssen tiie Mini.^ter u[ HOME AFFAIRS Ll tially to be formulated by tlie State plca.'^cd to .-^lale; Government and brought up before the Planning Commission. No such pro- (a) whether 'it is a fact tiiat a posals have been received from the Memorandum was submitted to the State Government on the basis of the Home Minister by the President oi progress made by them till now. The Sikkim National Congress a few road development programmes for- nionth.=: back containing allegations mulated under the Five-Year and against the Cliiof Minister and hi;; Annual Plans are intended to meet the colleagues in \-aricnis mattei-.s of the developmental and trallic require- State; and ments, keeping in view the availability of resources and competing claims for (1)) if so. whetliL'r any enquiry is other sectors/programmes. being held?

Rural Electrification in Madhya THE MINISTER OF HOME AF- Pradesh FAIRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH); (a) No memorandum has beeii 2959. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH: received from the president of Sikkim Will the Minister of ENERGY be National Congress containing allega* pleased to state: tions against the Chief Minister anct (a) progress of the electrification other Ministers of the State. of villages in MadHya Pradesh; fb) Does not arise. (b) whether the progress of the scheme Ls behind the schedule; and

(c) if so, the reasons therefor and the steps proposed to be taken to fulfil the scheduled target?

2661. Tnmra TT^ : W THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) 15,047 villages were electrified and 1,89,016 pumpsets energised as on 30-9-1977. («f ) ^ TTT»fta->r ^ ^ w r ^ 'm (b) and (c). For 1977-78, the Madhya Pradesh Electricity Board has fixed a I jrf? ft, rft eiaqiH' target of 1600 additional villages and 30000 new pumpsets. Upto 30-9-1977. fFTf^ ^ I; 1218 new villages have been electrified and 8734 pumpsets energised. It is (m ) ^ % ’TTRoff ^

^ > T ( ’nrJ : jpr Jf TTRT *nft (sft (^) (g-).gr^ ?fiT ?rma'>T nf^o ft o «nftrfT) : ( ^ ) w«n- (? l). erifhTFr ^rfl' ^TTtfrgR % st?? ir infoH if wftfsRT f^RTFf ?PT^ I, ’TCTm ir ^11% f w w ^ 5TT T^Tf !T^ f r n f t i qr f^r ^ TT^ ^ ^snfq'^ % ’5KT rr^ ^TRT^fPT ^ 1TT% I ^xfrrH- t ^ iT liw r ^'■iTFRT v m r % s iif m % ’TT^fTP; TJ ^ FTTfra- t I ?nft TRq- fTJTT % ?rfgfi=rawr % ^ ?T ^ ^«TFRT % ^ ij- ^ mfr^ 1 1 qr ' i w ^ fim r I m r ^ 5 ^ ^ ^ ir '=s(m ^ - j m j i % I w w r 11

Ketrenclunent ol‘ Staff in Regional Tr3T

THK PRIME MINISTER (SHRI ( ^ ) ^ TTcfllT ^ 51 ? -ORARJI DESAI); There has been no 'trenchment of any employee of the oi;ional Research Laboratory, Jammu tf ^ wttnr ^ spT I ■1(1 its Branch Lal)oratorv in Kashmir ^ ’■sTIm OTT ^ ii'iH” emergency. % TT ^ % ^ % TTHT if ^ fsptrr -3 n ^ ; ?rk srffTCSR (^) fr, ^ ^ ? 2 9f>3. ^ o r f ^ ; ^ W 3Tf gcTPT ^ fPTT : #!ira«r if Tm »r?fy x ^ o Tto infei) : (^) (^). (^f ) spTT 5rfir-

^ ^ ir fjRTT |; ?T*TT ^nTcT ■^v ^ % f%lT I i f k WTT ^ ?rnmf ^ «n^- (^) ft, ?TT ^^cinflr cr«nr stkitoG(» ^ e jir t ? ^ ^ ^5|T?ft I I W SPPTT, 123 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 124

srfSRnft ^ ^ TT5JT ^ F T iw % f%TT ^ % TFJq- n ^?TTcT ^ I ; ?r1r ^ ^ im, TT^ n g^nra- f t I (^) ^ ?TT Hqxgr ^ t ^ ^R5fT % f^'f ^ f5T% ^3rm ? Communications received by Minister in Hindi 2965. SHRI MOHAN LAL PIPIL: ^>T («ft ^ 'FHfsrfira) •• Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS ( ^ ) ^ 1 be pleased to state; (»?) W (fkrrnT ) (a) the total number of communi- cations received by him in Hindi from i t W I I various quarters during the period from April to September,, 1977; Cb) how many of these communica- tions were acknowledged after a % f'TOf ^ period of one month from the date of 5IT Tk their receipt or have not been acknowledged so far and the reasons t 't ?n?r for delay; and I frot ?^'f ^ (c) whether it is also a fact that 'TfTJTT^PTTTr ?rm>J sFRhTV these communications are required to 'TfT^mnrni; 1 f q ^ r^ ^nf^pTT ir be translated into English before sub- mission to him and if so, the staff earmarked for the purpose, including 15 rf^ ^ their scales of pay and whether the FTPTFff 3PT f

7rTT ffV 5lc|fa|, trjT, Trrsfiyr, 5TW1T; 2 966. ^ : W l ^ ? r , iTTr^T, JT^^'="r, irrr^crT?, >frTt?fRr, f'T’qtnJT?, srcTTq’Tf, Tfira^^r, TTTI^, («f) WT ^ ^RFTT ^ 5I7f^?t5r, ^ TTKff % f r o t iFfsrnT, W R i Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 126 25

^ Pn *•'1 n?i r<3 a 6 ?s^‘f n ^ Tfr I I iTFTiTfr wrf ^ 15 5rf^9T^T TT^ fT^FT^ ^ f ?fT7 imfTffT’T ^TPTT’T ^ ^ ^ f^ir ^J?TT »rqT I :— ^ ^TT^TT 'TTOWr^fPT ^'Tf% ^

srf^qr, STTfft, ?T^»TTfr, srrar^ t ^rrfe ^3^ wm ^ TT^or^r I T T ^ R % ^rfsT'TTftlT 35T^^

q-nfrq- ^?n>T qfczfr^r^ ^ tttt ^r ^ I ffffir^r-T w'T ^ Tfrifnii'JTr r> t t f^^rrr^ ’TfTJrar sr?T^ stmt it:?: I I TRIT >R^rrff ^nifM Steps to improve the mauagement of Scooters India, Lucknow to overcome ^ 3 ^ =9nrr% % 100 the losses irf^TW %??TJT ?T^|i(dl 5T5T5T ^ITrfT ^ I w ? : a%?T TTJir it 29U7. SIIRI R. L. KUREEL: WiU the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased 13 yrrWr '3^nr TfT^rspTT to state: % 3pxiw ?rr^ t :—

(a) the steps being taken to improve the mismanagement of Scooters India ^r^jfffT, 'Jl'3'1*, WTT, TT^T^^T, Ltd., Lucknow to overcome the heavy ^ q r, ^ R , ^!'i*5^ih % srftr^iwrT ^ o c to change the management to get rid ^ ^ I, fR;i7T?3: ?rV5nT gefT of many disputes between the wor- Ift'^p: !fh: nJW<«i 9 x r ^ % kers and the management cau^g heavy loss to the factory? ^ 1 -J JTRT91'

Delay in changes in the production (b) whether Government propose Technology of Bharat Ophthalmic to ban horse races and State lotteries Glass Project in the country by making suitable changes in the Prevention of Gambl- 29tiH. SlIRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be ing Act; and pleased to stale; (c) if so, when Government propose (a) whether delay to bring chanf'es to make such changes in law? ;n the production technology of the Centre owned Bharat Oplithahnic THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Glass Project from the present batch MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS production system to continuous pro- (SHRI S. D. PATIL): (a) and (b). cess will cost the State exchequer “ Gambling” , which covers horse-racintj Rs. Six crores; and loo, is a State subject. The State Gov- (b) if so, the details thereof? ernments are, therefore, competent to legislate in these matters. However, THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY to deal with the oflences connected .SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): with gambling ell'ectively, the Central (a) and (b). The Bharat Opthalmie Government propose drafting a com- Glass Limited (BOGL) started com- prehensive model legislation covering mercial production in I'JfiB using the \arious forms of gambling for con- Batch Process Technology for manu- sideration by the States. iacturing ophthalmic blanks. Because of the inherent inadequacies of the As regards State Lotteries, the technology, however, B.O.G.L.. has Government propose to take up legis- been attempting to switch over to the lation to regulate the conduct of these Continuous Process Technology. A lotteries. technical team was sent abroad in 1974 1o explore the possibility of obtaining (c) Both the proposals referred to ?tnow-how in this field. Unlortunately above are in a preliminary stage. It Jhe technology is closely held by a is not possible to indicate when they :ew multi-national companies, and it will be finalised in the form of legis- has not been easy to obtain the new lation, particularly as the model Bill technology. Recently, however, BOGL will have to be adopted by the S t ^ :as received a number of oilers for Governments who alone are competent. ioreign collaboration, which are imder ^examination. B.O.G.L. has also been •’xploring the possibility oi' developing Covering of U.P. ana H.P. Under Ihe technology indigenously in col- Vulnerable Areas .'aboration with Central Glass and Cer- imic Research Institute and with finan- 2970. SHRI YUVRAJ: Will the cial participation by the National Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- Otevelopment Research Corporation. It PORT be pleased to state: .3 not possible to quantify- the loss, if ,.ny, on account of the non-availability (a) whether the border areas of of a better technology at ar. earlier Uttar Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh etc. point of time. are covered under vulnerable areas;

Proposal to stop Gambling (b) whetlier it is also a fact that Bihar is not covered under the above 2969. SHRI BAPUSAHEB PARULE programme; and ’.AR: Will the Minister of HOME AF- .IRS be pleased to state: (c) whether it is also a fact that (a) whether Government propose to when national highway No. 31 (Ko- stop gambling at all levels in the dha-Katihar-Labha) of Bihar wiU be coun< ty; linked with national highway Wo 129 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 130 34 (Harish Chanderpur of Bengal) (d) The Government of Tamil Nadu then far flung areas will be linked had sanctioned special rebate and Co- with these highways? optex also extended such rebate at varying rates from time to time during THE MINISTER OF STATE IN the period from 3-9-1977 to 22-11-1977. CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF This would have given some relief SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI to the handloom industry. CHAND RAM): (a) and (b). For the purpose of construction of roads, no Annual Expenditure incurred by the area has so far been declared as “ vul- Salt Commissioner’s Organisation nerable area”.

(c) This roaa, when constructed, 2972. SHRI K. T. KOSALRAM: Will would be a State road and it is the the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased responsibility of the States concerned. to state: (a) the total annual expenditure Cooptex Cloth lying Unsold incurred by the Salt Commissioner’a Organisation from 1948 to 1976; 2971. SHRI C. N. VISVANATHAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be (b) how is this expenditure met; pleased to state: (c) whether any review has been (a) whether it is a fact that textiles undertaken to study the essentiality valued at several lakhs of rupees of of such an expenditure taking into Cooptex cloth is lying in stock unsold account the objective for which this causing hardship to the Handloom organisation was set up; and Industry; (d) if so, review has been under- (b) whether Government have taken, would Government restructure taken any steps to promote and im- the set up to make the organisations prove the sale of such cloth in United an instrument for the development of States of America and the United salt industry? Kingdom; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (c) if so, the outcome of such steps; (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): and (a) Rs. 25,02,87,468.

(d) the nature of emergency steps (b) The expenditure is met out of taken by Government to relieve the cess proceeds collected in accordance industry of its present stagnation? with Section 4(a) of the Salt Cess Act, 1953. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (c)and (d). The Review iS in pro- It is reported that stocks of hand- gress. loom cloth worth Rs. 14 crores were 'tarried by Cooptex in September/ October, 1977. .’ (b) and (c). Two delegations, one to USA, UK and France and the other to Singapore, Malaysia, Japan and Indonesia were sponsored by the Gov- ernment of Tamil Nadu. They have Pecured export orders worth Rs. 1 pore. Further exports may also be ienerated. . 3091 LS—5. 131 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers -32

started only after the tower had reach- ed certain stage. The studio equip- f ? ments for which order was placed with M /s. BE in June, 1976 are expected to be received by middle of 1978, and snrf («ft «no Tm^prr) : the centre is now expected to be com- {^) (5sr). Jr 210-210 missioned in 1978-79. ^ 2Tf5TTf ?F«rTft-rT ^ ipTTm o -v a-TrEFROT 5f ^ srr t I ^ >Tixjft^niff ^ 2975. «tV f?T5 T T 5^ : Trnj- zfhPTPiff % ^ % ^ ^ fPTT ^ ir, JTrJn%rT 9HT

f ^»' , >0 -N STrRnF^iT g'TTT cT^l'^-SiTlfsT^r ^ 5TR % ( ^ ) ^<5 1 977 5f ^ ^ wrat I I ?mq- iir? "T^ ^ ^•T'^ Id ?rnT Tf<.41'4'lf

qr ^ ?T¥ ?m 1 ( ) f ) g-f

*i| I ? fk w ^ r . ^ q r w srfrrf^^TT T.V. Centre at JuUundur t ; ' 2974. SHRI IQBAL SINGH DHIL- LON: Will the Minister of INFORMA- (»r) ^5TT ?n3TT ^j-pfrar TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: ?t, ^ ^?fm ?TF (a) whether the former Minister Mr. I. K. Gujral of I and B Ministry had committed that the T.V. Centre f»T#^T : ?fr?: at Jullundur would be completed and comnussioned during the middle of ( et ) ^ ^ 1977; 3iwifT 5Bfk f^iT ?rf??nT ^JTT (b) reasons for delay in this regard; >rt I ? and

(c) the exact date of TV. Centre at Jullundur to come on air? («ft 'srm : (?^) (^)- ^ 1'1't'KT THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION 5IT Tfr t ’tfh: ^ 'TH’^r qT AND BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K. ADVANI): (a) to (c). According to I the original schedule, the Jullundur T.V. Centre was to be commissioned (tt) 5rVr (?r): ^ i r g r ^TPftOTm in 1976-77. There has, however, been some delay, as the concrete T.V. tower, % fn q qspr ^m+TTT ^ ^FT ^ the first of its kind in India, had to f^P^n ^*TT ^ ^ ynfhdWT % be designed and the building and the fjr^iRT % ^ ^ fn *■'1 Pi Ha ?T tower had to come up in an integrated fashion. The building works could be *r ^ ^ t33 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 134

sfrRr^ff wk TnhFtff % («ft m f ’^SStWto) : ( ^ ) ^ X ^ I

( 1 ) sTirnff ?r>?: gr^ff ^ ('Sf) *Tf^^3RT ^f 42 %o TfXtTTiJr TT 4 vci<.

( 3 ) ^TTTrfoi =5nrfT Sj'Rt 3t^^T9R ^TTf^ 13.8 %o^o/220 «rVjH ?r»riT»r 400 ( 4) fwrfl^T iJTft vtn: ( 5 ) *T?rr, ^ftr ’atrnrfr sp ^r«T ( e ) !?^T€r ^ ?ftT jrT??r ^ I MRifl'jfHI % ^ ’•nd'l^l':^ ( 7) ^mfroy fo R K ^ ?ftT ? r r w ^ 9 00 ^ fT?TTjfTT?: ^ ^ 's r r ^ i ( 8) ^tstt

( 9) (^ ) M qt-g- ?r 9Ti*«( ^^«PT f^lfHdy ^*t 5’i'WfV?M sit?: fWflT^ ^frpT |T tTT ^friftq jpr ^-55fT f5T!TT I I iTiff ^ TJjTJTR % IT f T^ ^ T ?JT9Tr I I ^TTir^psfT (tr) ^''rotr=?ofoiT?^o g-Rr j r t - 1 9 7 8 -7 9 % TT^ ?TWf£r if f^9FT %?s't ^ ■'<:rq?r?qi=r fjTiT rr k 1 fejTT ^RTT ^ I ?Tff; ^3^ TH ^HT ^ T -5 ^ ^ F t +'*-MHT r^r*ld^ ^'T 'TfT, fjT?5 ?TT«r ^ fe3T?ft tTT 3r5TT% % f?T^ ??T ^r STFcT t I ^TTrT |sft f 5^f»T?r^r iT^ f f f f ^ % ?rrerR t ?: ’r^rr «rr i

2976. isfV ^ fiTTT : Loss due to Censorship Restrictions w ^ar>T q^ q’cTT^ rH' fr^ sF.^ir f e ; 2977. SHRI C. VENUGOPAL: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (^ ) ^q-r M r ’Tsfr % f%;sr?n- (a) whether it is a fact that many ^Tf Z^! fq^TT t ; good foreign films to be screened in India are kept in cold storage be- cause of excessive censorship restric- (’?) q-f? ff, ?TT tions; ^q-T t ; (b) the loss to Indian revenues as (»T) iTR f a result thereof; and S7r (c) whether Government propose ■^T-5% % ^ q - Jf ^ f^ q T | . to relax such censorship restrictions?

(^ ) q-r? 5t, rfr f?r% TPTTi THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K. ADVANI); (a) All films, whether 135 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 136

Indian or foreign, are subjected to the % ^3TT% W rftTTW zfh m provisions of the Cinematograph Act, 1952, and the Cinematograph Censor- % isra^ ;3^qT^ ^ st r t P»r t ^r|lr ship Rules and Directions issued there- I ?rrfoiT^o?iTfo ^$TRTift^77Tjr under. No excessive censorship res- % injt^ ir^ ^r ^ trictions are imposed on foreign films. (f^^TTiT % ’ ) ^HTT CT2^ 7^ jp:n’ (b) and (c). Do not arise. I I H *rm i ?r«in: ^ €t— 1294 77]

(^ ) srrfiT<5niTf^c)i7:+ f-iiifii- 45( 5) % 3F,!T^ ?TTf o ITj^-c, ?^Tf o 2 978. ^ 2 1-19 3 9 ^ va v» % TRT fes^'f T?ft| ^

( ^ ) ^ ^ % fw> 5mr% -o i t ^icft t i T?: ^ I ^ «ft ?nft- rl^ Ci,r^farH^H % 'FJT I ; ^ 'T H ' T ^ ^ ^ ( g ) ^ ^ ^ JHTT^ ^ 'rar «rn:^ iTmr ^ | ; T^Tf ?TvqzrT W T t I

% 5H ^ glTT ^*'*1 ( ;t ) wzn ^ 'TJif w r i

JTflr I ? fk ^ ^TTT ' T ^ n 2 9 7 9- «tV ?TT^5rr : ^rfr^TR^ 1 zff^ m % f^nr i w r H «fV q3T?rT 5T»rf :

^ ^ ^TTW I ? ^t

^ > T H3rt (isft 3fr3T ) : ^ ^ % f^-fw ir (^ ) fw ^ T W ^mV<9T^ IT.'HjfMfHifK % sFTTTT ^ I I ^ pr f^RTTt firm ^ fw ^ m % q;w gw h%t w r t ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ V ) ?r*TT TT fir^ t ^ if qft ft «flr ; T»rr w I I *T w nm i ?fk z t— 1294 77] ( 197 2#iPTW n%?R^) ( ^ ) ^ % =r>TT?r ^ fir^f 8 0 0 ^ ir ITT%, cfSTT ^T?: 'TJT^ ^ WT «)H1^ TT^ 'dH+l ^ f w a rr^rf ^ ?nrar?: m \ t ? ^ ^ I I ^{sftn *Hft («ft ^ :

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^ ^ 3 w r, 3. ^ ^ 4 srfw- yftrfrpTiT, 1 9 i l % ! T ^ 103 ?IW I fTT^ % 5 R ^ ^ 'T ^ fra- if W «TT, ^ 3 ^ =r : Production of Polyster Khadi by Sita ferr »raT ?T«rr Ram Jaipuria ^ ^WidRd ^ w 2980. SHRI M. N. GOVINDAN NAIR: «?! I ^ ir ^35^ , 1 9 7 6 t <,i'r| fir ^ (a^a- SHRI S. G. MURUGAIYAN:

55TfEP:i^) ^rfWl^iT, 1 9 7 6 % ?TEJ^T Will the Minister of INDUSTRY ^ ^ 3r> ?fk be pleased to state: f w r ^ 7 ^ 'k (a) whether owner of the Big Business Houses namely, Sita Ram T^t ?rh w n STT I Jaipuria of Kanpur has approached the Government for permission to produce Polyster Khadi; and 10 3 f w IT ?T f^TiTR- ’Tmi?r (b) if so, the details thereof and Government’s reaction thereto? -Miai'STir STTT T«nR- ?TR^ %

WTTJT TJ WT^ ^ ^ THE MINISTER OF INDUSrilY ^ I I ttw: fTF? ^?r=T ir (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) No, Sir, ?;T^' % ^rrrw ftv?: ^ C' ^ •- ^ r JT^fl’ I I ^ ^ fW T (b) Does not arise. ?mzr ?> ?RT fiT^ff % 5 ra ^ % 5n=rr^, 101 TT^fhTi^ ^ f m Tft- 1 I Guidelines regarding visit abroad by ?rftT?TfiT % W T ^ H 32 fiT^ ^ Ministers I 2981. SHRI K. A. RAJ AN: WiU the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to (g) TF^ ^ f;r^ g-RT ^ state: 1 9 7 7 -7 8 % ^ (a) whether any directive or 90 7 ^ !frf ifR:?: e guidelines have been issued by the ofRTtr f w w r I I Prim e Ministe.r regarding visits abroad t f ^ ift%, i f t f ^ % tr. qnTJr ^ gr?: by the Ministers; and 'TT??T SFTt 5FT ^cMKH iTt^ ?ftT (b) if so, the details thereof? ^ 'f l+ r ^TTFiraT ^ w ^ qT; I , ^J?PPT f r f ^ THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI ^^■5T ^ ^ I I ^ v w rc ^ JTtq- MORARJI DESAI); (a) and (b). The ^ ^nrr-HTR q r ^ cMRH wrnNnr Prime Minister has written to all ^ ?rqwl^ f w ^srrar | 1 iftt- ^ Members of the Council of Ministers that before responding to any invita- 'TT % !TjqT^ ^FT tion to visit a foreign country, they W I ;— should take into consideration the ad- vice of the Ministry of External 1 . jftST 14 srf^w Affairs. Only formal written invita- tions should be considered, and these should be routed through the Ministrj- of External Affairs. 139 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 140

wnftvT v t FTPTwr % arise between the financial and physi- cal projections vmderlying the five «rfren n F m 5^ wrft?wf vt year plan. The methodology of the 3 ^ rolling plan, incorporating targets for investment and output year by yeat 2 9 8 2. «ftThrom STOW ^ : for a five year period, with provision for detailed annual review, will en- +Mi 3*irf *i?ri ^ f>Mi sure greater consistency. ftr :

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% f%cr% 5Jrf^ f^Fnftrr 2984. SHRI HITENDRA DESAI: Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state: (^) ^ 55T^ % (a) whether Government are con- 5Rn ^ I qfcwrO' sidering to find an alternative to the Gadgil Formula for Central assistance ^ ?T^ ^ t ; to the States; and (b) if so, what are the considera- (»T) SPTT y<+K % ^ f^FTTftra tions which have weighed with Gov- 'TfC'CR'l' 5FT S T P ft f^ ^ ?TTEPT ^ ^ ernment? ^r s r w fiT ^ ?t | ? THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI); (a) and (b ). 3^*rfV (sft »#to TnrarnR) : It i.= not proposed to make any change ( ^ ) ^ (>t ). g w u<+Tf^d ^ in the principles of allocation of Cen- tral assistance to the States for 1978- ^ ■ :^ t ?ftT ?HTT 'TX v s 79. These principles may be review- ed in the course of the preparation of the next Five Year Plan and if any changes are found to be necessary, these would be proposed for consi- Intesrration between Physical and deration by the National Develop- Financial Planning ment Council at the appropriate time.

2983. DR. HENRY AUSTIN; Will Violation of Provisions of Industries the Minister of PLANNING be pleas- (Development and Regulation) Act ed to state: by Cotton Mills (a) whether R.B.I. has called and 2985. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will recommended a much closer integra- the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased tion between physical and financial to state: planning than hitherto; and (a) whether the use of polyester (b) if so, whether this suggestion yarn by cotton mills violated the pro- has been examined by the Planning visions of the Industries (Develop- Commission? ment and Regulation) Act as the licences issued to them under Entry THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI 23(1) of the Act clearly required MORARJI DESAI); (a) Yes, Sir. them to use cotton yarn made from (b) Every effort will be made by the it; Planning Commission to ensure that (b) whether it has also been noted in future plans imbalances do not that the new material for the artsiUc 141 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 142 textile industry licensed under Entry 23(5) was synthetic filament yarn as well as spun yarn; and (c) if so, the reaction of Govern- ment keeping in view the complete segregation between the cotton textile industry and artsilk industry, which might prove disastrous for the artsilk industry, if its sphere was allowed to be encroached upon by large scale (^ ) ^ STT (^0 ^ mills? 9rm) THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): 1973-74 36. 00 6. 00 (a) to (c). The cotton textile mills can manufacture fabrics partly made 1974-75 44. GO 8. 00 of cotton and partly of any other material which includes polyester 1975-76 60. 00 8 . 00 filament yarn. Hence the use of polyester filament yarn by cotton textile mills does not violate the pro- (g ’) it visions of the 1 (D&R) Act so long ^ ^ m j ^r?T^T ^ as there is some cotton in the fabrics ^'T 5TTT ^ manufactured by them. The artsilk units licensed under 23 (5) can manu- facture fabrics either with synthetic 3rr% ^ spun yarn or synthetic filament yarn ^ 4C-JT qr ^ vft I I and the minimum content of art silk yarn should be 60 per cent of tlie yarn Srftlf'nTlT, content of fabric manufacturisd. 1 955 ^ f i There is no complete segregation between the cotton textile indus- ^ ir ffiTSF STFfT try and artsilk industry in the qrtff ^ 3613 I I use of raw materials because the I'otton textile industry can use and is cT«n' if w far using synthetic spun yarn and syn- thetic filament yarn in the weft of 2 987. «To Tmaft : mx the fabrics manufactured by them. Whether the increased use of polyes- ^ frqi : ter filament yarn by the cotton textile (^r) STFT % «T>F ^ industry will adversely affect the art silk industry has to be studied. ?r ♦('iHiPn'Ti %('-d< f^rmr (g-) wm q f snrTT ^ fHfirsT, isnrftTT % ^TRor I ; srm Ppm ^ *nn (n ) ^ yrrvR jft 2 98 6. 5Tm : ^ ^rnjf ^10 «i ^ f*TTT ^ ^ ^ fTT : qr STFTT % %q[

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2990. SHRI DURGA CHAND; Will if ^ % ?ft% the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state; VlvT (a) whether Government have any 2988. ^ 5^ ^ « r m : proposal to give financial assistance to the literary persons who are en- ^ ifhPTT »T‘^ ^ fHTT ^ > r gaged in translating and editing all ft> : the vernacular writingis of Lala Lajpat Rai; (jp ) spn y < + K ^ ^ZTTT ^ ?T*TT- (b) if so, the details thereof; and ^ 5Ft JTK W I

THE MINISTTER OF INFORMA- H.A.L. does have a problem of lack TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI of enough orders for its Kanpur and L. K. ADVANI): (a) No, Sir. Bangalore Divisions. Efforts are afoot to find appropriate work to keep these (b) Does not arise. Establishments utilised.

(c) However, Publications Division In the very nature of Defence are bringing out a biography of Lala needs, and the varied and changing Lajpat Rai, in English, in ‘Builders character of requirement of the of Modern India’ Series, Hindi and Armed Forces, the demands of Regional languages versions of which Ordnance Factories tend to fluctuate may be brought out subsequently. from time to time. The factories have The author of the biography, late Shri necessarily to carry the requisite Feroz Chand was paid a sum of Rs. ready capacity to take on, at rela- 1000/- as out-of-pocket expenses. tively short notice, orders for supply Royalty would be payable at the rate of armament and ammunition. It is, of 15 per cent to his legal heirs. The therefore, somewhat difficult to define book is expected to be in the market 'idle capacity’ in their case or state in early 1978. the precise extent of it at 2iny time, as is the case also with the PubUc Sector Undertakings producing for Idle Installed Capacity in Defence Defence. Production

2991. SHRI DURGA CHAND; WiU Ordnance Factories are, by and the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased large, well utilised. However, there to state: is a problem of lack of enough future orders for the Rifle Factory, Ishapoie (a) what is the percentage of exist- and a Task Force has been appointed ing installed capacity lying idle in de- to identify possible solutions. fence production units at present, unit-wise; Similarly, there appears to be a degree of underutilised capacity m (b) whether Government have for- certain instances such as in the chemi- mulated any scheme to make best use cal and explosives sector of the Of this idle capacity for producing Ordnance Factories. The kind and iioods for civil consumption; and extent of surplus capacity is being ascertained, with the object of mount- ing productive programmes for fuller i f 30 (c) . , the details thereof? utilisation—including production for civilian needs. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE Public Sector Enterprises like BEL, (PROF. SHER SINGH); (a) to (c). BEML, Praga Tools and the three The Public Sector Undertakings Shipyards, already cater to civilian associated with the Department of needs. Even the Ordnance Factories Defence Production are mostly, mak- are, to a limited extent, supplying ing adequate use of their capacity. certain items for civilian use such as Thus, Bharat Electronics is already Binoculars, Sporting Rifles and guns over-booked; the three Shipyards and some equipment for the Civil namely, Mazagon Docks, Garden Aviation Department. Reach and Goa Shipyards, are by and large occupied; and the other such In dealing with available surplus Undertakings—except HAL—do not of productive capacity on technical also have a problem of idleness at capability in the Defence Production present. Sector, the possibility of catering to 147 Written Anttoers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 14S civilian needs is kept in view, consis- wnnH fw fH % i \t r jftm tnvrnft Jf tently with the paramount needs of Defence.

2994. fPT : Increase in Political Murders w r 1J5 irsft ^ frqr ^ : 2992. SHRI HUKAM CHAND KACHWAI; Will the Minister of (^ )'f!T T % SRTTT^ HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: % 5f^?r ^TPTqify ^ (a) whether it is a fact that there qft ?T51TT % ^ ^ TT3JT ^TT^'f has been a considerable increase in ^ 3TK^il 0 ^ ^ ; !t\T the number of political murders in the country during the past few months; ( ^ ) siftXT ^irr (b) the State-wise figures of such murder; and

(c) the broad outlines of Govern- »T5 it TT5tr *T?ft («r> nr.ent’s f u t u r e Scheme and policy for TTHo T^o.qifer) (^ ) sfk { ^ ) 3ft ?rt, checking the s a m e ? ssftTTR I 5rcTTTtf%n STFT 1 10 nf^ 6 1 977 % % THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS ^ ^ Tb;# t ’Tift % (SHRI S. D. PATIL): (a) and (b). ?rriT^F

SRTref^W ^rsfT HTTrftU (a) the total amount spent by the Central and State Governments on % nftiTTfnit ^ Research and Development Program- mes of Science and Technology during 2993. sft : the last two years; ^ ff. (b) whether the achievement is com- 5EIT5 ^ f^ f^ q r f mensurate with expenditure; and (c) if so, the salient features there- ^ »TTTrftq- ^ of?

>Tfr ? THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): (a) It has been estimated that the total amount spent by the Central and State Govern- « n f ^ ) : 5TT ments on RtD during the years 1975-76 and 1976-77 is of the order of t qr m Rs. 290 crores and Rs. 340 crores respectively. 149 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 15 a

(b) In spite of some time lag bet- ploratory weU, a new UO pellet sin. ween investmyit in RifeD and its ijH- tering furnace, radio immuno essax pact on the economy and the diflfi- kit for early detection of pregnancy culty of quantifying achievements, complications, a one tonne per day the latter can be taken as fairly com- ship borne pilot desalination plant and mensurate with the expenditure. a reverse osmosis pilot plant have also been installed and tested. (c) Some salient features of the achievements are in the area of agri- Development of Rohini sounding culture, medical research, atomic rockets upto 560 mm diametre, deve- energy, space, electronics and several lopment of Satellite Launch Vehicle-3 S&T programmes. Improvements in (SLV-3), completion of Phase-1 of genetic and agronomic practices, im- Reinforced Plastics Centre project, provement in engineering and irriga- development of Pressure Transducer tion genetics and in management and Unit, and work on satellite for earth communication methods have consi- observations have commenced. SateL de^-ably increased the production of lite instructional television experi- foodgrains, fuel and fodder. Sub- ment was completed in 1976-77 and soiling has increased the yield of the tele-communication experiment su^^arcane upto 30 tonnes/ha in pro- has become operational. The ARAINE blem soils. Wheat production has Passenger Payload Experiment Pro- gone upto 28 million tonnes per year. ject is under implememation. High production has been registered in crops like Maize, Barley, Coarse Production of TR Cells, antenna for grains, Pulses and some oilseeds. community TV receiver, solid state, The productivity of castor has become oscilloscope, tentalum electrolytic 500 kg/ha showing a 100 per cent in- capacitors, computer peripherals like crease. Several research schemes in paper tape punches, project for deve- areas like communicable diseases, lopment of cockpit voice recorder and nutrition, lertility control, health 'ieli- the project for liquid crystals mate- very systems, medicinal plants, viral rials and display devices, develop- fungal and parasitic infections have ment of digital multimeter have been been sponsored by the Indian Council completed in the area of electronics. of Medical Research. Preparation of a new vaccine for cholcra, which pro- vides 100 per cent protection to chil- During 1976-77, 72 industrial units drea and 70 per cent to adults, eradi- based on technologies developed at cation of small pox, introduction of national laboratories commenced pro- Armadillo for detailed investigations duction operations. Starting a fac- -and preparation of vaccine for leprosy, tory for alkaloids from opium, dyes development of a virus lyophilizer for acrylic fibres, PM -Il alloy con- with a built-in shell freezer, complete ductor, sealed type Nl-Od. Cells, band set of equipment for contract extrac- knife splitting machine, fruit packag- tion, a rapid invitro method for de- ing boxes from waste pine needles, termining the bio availability of food development of technology for direct iron are notable in this area. chlorination of feminites to titanium tetrachloride and establishment of a pilot plant of 25 K g/ day for furfural, In the area of Atomic energy, development of some select pesticides, development of four prototype fuel etc. have been completed. cluster assemblies, a 60 kw radio frequency Oscillator, 100 kw plasma cutting torch, hydrogen dynamic com- The National Research Development puter model and the basic design for Corporation of India issues almost the Fast Breeder Test Reactor have 200 licences every year for commer- been successfully completed. Plilse cialisation of indigenously developed: Neutron Loggiixg for oil atid gas ex- technologies. J5I Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 152

Power Generation in Sixth Flan banks would participate in any signi- ficant way would be part of this study. 2996. SHRI DHARM VIR VA- SISHT: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state; Financial assistance from W orld Banlc for Tliermal Plants , (a) whether Government have taken advance action to sanction 7041 2997. SHRI DHARM VIR VA- M.W. of new generating capacity; SISHT: Will the Minister for ENER- GY be pleased to state; (b) the target of power generation in the Sixth Plan together with the (a) the nature and extent of I.D.A. role of Rural Electrification Corpora- finance agreed to by the World Bank tion; and for the Thermal Plants in India during 1976-77 and 1977-78; and (c) whether Reserve Bank of India has examined planned participation of (b) The names of beneficiary States commercial banks in regard to (a) and Or central territories together with the (b )? nature and scope of the projects with target: likely to be achieved when matured? THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN) : THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (a) to (c). A Working Group set (SHRI P. RAMACHANDRAN): up by the Planning Commission is (a) A loan of 150 million U.S. Dol- presently engaged in the formulation lars has been obtained on 1st April. of the Power Plan for the period 1977 from IDA for financing the 1st 1978-79 to 1982-83. The capacity re- stage of 3x200 MW Singrauli Ther- quirements for the end of the five mal Power Project. year period would be finalised after the power plan for that period has (b) Singrauli Super Thermal Po- been approved. However, on the basis wer Project is being set up under Cen- of estimates based on the projections tral Sector as a regional station for of the Tenth Annual Power Survey, generation of power to meet the re- Projects have been identified and ac- quirements of the States/UTs in the tion to sanction a large number of Northern Region. The benefits will projects has already been taken. The mainly accrue to the States of U.P., ongoing schemes totalling about Rajasthan, Punjab, Haryana and the 10,300 MW and newly sanctioned Union Territory of Delhi. schemes totalling about 6160 MW to- gether with some new schemes which Setting up of Seamen’s Recruiting have also been identified are expected Centre for Saloon and Deck Crew of to meet the demand for power during Ships in Goa, Daman and Diu the next plan period. 2998. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO' The Working Group is presently Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND engaged in formulating the Rural TRANSPORT be pleased to stater Electrification Programme for the next five years and also indicate the (a) whether Central Government was role of Rural Electrification Corpora- approached by the Government of Goa, tion. Daman and Diu for setting up in that Territory a Seamen’s Recruiting Centre for Saloon and Deck crew of The Power Plan for the next five ships; and year period would also make an as- sessment of the resources required for (b) if so, when the proposal was its implementation and identity made by the Government of that terri- broadly the sources of funding the tory and what are the reasons for ; programme. Whether commercial not accepting the same? 153 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (.SAKA) Written Answers 154^

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- Government have no intention of CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF reducing the quantum of production SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI of white printing paper as stipulat- CHAND RAM ): (a) Yes, Sir. ed in the Paper (Control of Produc- tion) Order, 1974. The performance of (b) Proposal was made in April, the mills is being monitored and any 1974. The demand for seamen and cases of delay in supply or shortfall other criteria did not justify the set- in production are taken up with the ting up of such a centre. individual mills.

ConcessiO(nal Paper for T*xt Books and General Books

2999. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO-. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 3000. vh HrJjiW SW R: Wqj

(a) whether the Federation of Indi- grsftn i f # ^ ^ ?rqT : an Publishers has approached Govern- ment to ensure that paper manuiactu- ( 57) rere implement the order relating to making concessional paper available gT:f:n; frr for production of text books and gene- ral books; and

(b) if so, what is the specific nature of 'he grievance of the Publishers and ^ q-R-?"dr if %• what steps have Government taken to redress the same? (>3) Jrf? ft, THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES); (a) and (b). The Federation of Indian fTiTT ? Publishers had submitted a represen- tation to Government urging that the Paper inckistry should be asked to («ft : comply with Government's policy ro- (^) f^frr % fw if gardmg production and supply of con- cessional white printing paper. The IT qfw^rTnr Federation have complained that the ^qTf'FT 5r==rrHT | i Paper industry have tried to persuade Government to agree to the reduction t f;r% ^'t 5TT 'rFT^fT^mf % ment had not accepted this suggestion, the paper manufacturers are now creating difficulties in actual supply of the concessional white printing t9TT?fi, »ffaTTT?t, t ’T^RTir I TTW « <*T

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Jmportance of various subjects in 3002. «To ^ ^ U.P.S.C. Examinations f^TT : 3001. DR. RAMJI SINGH: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS De ( t ) w srk ^ pleased to state the importance given to important subjects like philosopny, political science and religion in the various competitive examinatons par- ticularly the Indian. Administrative Service, Indian Police Service and smt t ; other All India Services conducted by the Union Public Service Commis- sion? (?!■) q ir ft,

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI S. D. PAUL): ‘Philosophy' (»r) JTf? ^fr ^ ir, q f? and ‘Political Science' are included in the list of optional subjects for the ^ ^ cprf Indian Administrative Service, etc. Examination through which rccruU- ment is made to the Indian Adminis- trative Service, Indian Police Service (^t ) MVt5t and to various Central Services. Group •A’ and ‘B’. ‘Religion’ is not included ?wt, «rf*T5fft ?ftT as a subject in any Examination held ^ arrt it ?rr^R by the Union Public Service Commis- -sion for recruitment to A ll India and fli%TT ^ I ? Central Services.

Recruitment to the Indian Forest Service, another All India Service, is t^o «nf^): (^) 3TT ft, I made through a separate annual Com- petitive Examination held by the { ^ ) ^rnr^T % t Union Public Service Commission. The basic educational qualification pres- TfnTrfi?^ I I ^ ft cribed for admission to this examina- tion is a Bachelor’s degree with at 5r ftr-«TTJT, ?r»RT least one of the following subjects, s r ^ sFT ^ ^rn^’TTT sr^t iiamely. Botany, Chemistry, Geology, Mathematics, Physics and Zoology or iTf SPRJT % ^ t a Bachelor’s degree in Agriculture or in Engineering of a recognised Indian I f?r ^ University. In view of this, the ques- ^Tt^ ^ w f ?n t, *tf 5^ tion of inclusion of subjects like ‘Phi- losophy’, ‘Political Science’ and ‘Reli- m q?r viTf^cT^ :Bion’ ia the scheme" of that examina- Ttion, dSoes not arise. ^ ?Rt^T t I IJ7 Written Answers AGRAHAYAjNA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 158

(»t) srki (« r ). ^ ?pf *ft Demand of FederatiOB of Indian Aii Silk Weaving Industry Probibiting 35mT5p vhrtfhv ?F3r?«r f r o Cotton Milla from usinr Pollster ?i‘h: «nr f^sfr^T Filament Tam ?rf«Tfrr ^ 3005. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will sr??fT f%iTT «n i ^ the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased h M? t f?Tf^ to state: K?TR Jr (a) whether the Federation of ST5^, wm 5f\?frfil^ ^ITwreff ^x ^r|T^ Indian Art Silk Weaving Industry ^ fW T s^nT?: f^T^T it (FIASWI) has demanded that the V3 cotton mills should be prohibjited ^rmf feJTT «qJT JTSi^ra- from using polyster filament yarn in % f^^TTnfR ^ v r^ ifrw ordei- to protect small art silk weav- srsif ^ +<'*-«i»'H' %, +1 <'^t'I < TTnTTT ing units froiTi unequal competition from big cotton mills in the large ; r w ?TR9iRr ^ |f ?TfTIT^"T I scale sector; (b) whether about 40,000 out of about 1.25 lakh authorised looms in Reimburjement of the Special rebate the art silk sector have become idle Scheme for Handloom Cloth because of high prices of synthetic yarn and increasing competition from 3003. SHRI K. A. RAJAN; Will the large cottOn mills belonging to big Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to houses; and state: (c) v/hether Government propose (a) whether Government have to give protection to small art silk agreed to reimburse 10 per cent of units against competition from mills the 20 per cent Special Rebate in the large scale sector? Scheme for Hand-loom cloth introduc- ed by the Governsnent of India to the THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY concerned States; (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, whether Government have been requested by the Kerala State lb) and (c). There is no evidence to Government for the reimbursement show that a number of art silk looms of Rs. 17,57,335.73 towards the Cen- have become idle due to high prices tral Share of rebate allowed under of synthetic yarn and increasing com- the Scheme; and pelition from the bigger units in the cotton mill sector. The actual user (c) if so, the details and Gov- imports of all synthetic yarns have ernment’s decision thereon? been allowed with a view to meet the indigenous shortage, as a result of THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY which the prices of these yarns have (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) actually come down during the last Yes, Sir. one month. Since the polyester filament yarn contracted for imports (b) Yes, Sir. The correct figure of has so far not arrived, the question amount of special rebate payable by of the bigger cotton mill sector compe- Central Government is Rs. 17.57,445.73. ting with the weaker art silk sector has not arisen so far. As and when (c) Sanction for release of the such a situation is likely to arise, amount has been issued for being cre- necessary steps to protect the inter- dited to State Government’s Account ests of the art silk sector will be con- by the Reserve Bank of India. sidered. 159 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers i 6o -

mention of misappropriation of money to the tune of lakhs of rupees by sub- 3006. ^ m rn rsT m : w area Manager; and

(b) whether Government would examine the said audit reports and ( t ) SPTT JTf ^ t f5P W get the conduct of the concerned Offi- ?rnflTT % f ® ^ ?ir cer investigated and take steps to save the Government Collieries from TiT^ ^ ^ r f r Jr =5ftfi f t ^ ^ : financial losses?

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Tto «nf^) : (^) ^ (jt). w Request from Punjab, Haryana and ?iFTFT % ?i»T^3lf % ?T tiiS'tci'l-^-dll’^ Rajasthan Governments for raising m r ?n^'T7T % fcT ^T ^ f^ ^ 'f WJ Support Price of Cotton srftr^-^'iH', 'ra', ?rra"R' % 3008. SHRI VASANT sATHE: fr 3fT 1 5 - 9 - 1 9 7 7 ^'t 5Ff5T>T r r ^ i r Tr:FiTfr ^ H SHRI NARENDRA SINGH: % f^rfT SHRI SUKHENDRA SINGH: ffiHR % JTTKT, ^^irfr ^ i ’ttt Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be HTT it ^'if ^TFJ t I pleased to state:

=5fTfr^TrT37 4rsr7TTTTsq-sr^ir (a) whether the Governments of STPTT it %qT JTiTT | qTcTT^ Punjab, Haryana and Rajasthan have approached the Ministry for raising ^ 7?r t 1 the support price of cotton to Rs. 418 per quintal instead of Rs. 255 re- cently announced by the APC:

(b) if so, the details of the demand Misappropriation o* Money by a Sub- made by each State and the reaction area Manager in Colliery of Western of Government to the proposal; and Coal Fields (c) the decision taken or proposed 3007. SHRI KACHARULAL HEM- to be taken? RAJ JAIN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) (a) whether in the audit reports for No. Sir. 1974-75 and 1975-76 of Umrer Colliery of the Western Coalfields, there is a (b) and (c). Do not arise. 16! Written Answers A G R A H A Y A N A 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers l6z

Officers on Mrs. Gandhi's Payrole tion of tod h ar ° f Cen,eut Corpora- 3S09. SHRI ANANT DAVE: Will StateSiJ during- ? yLok e Sabhathen Minister Election of ^tlie Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: S,H:RI SAMAR GUHA: Will t o ' s S T £ INDUSTRY ** pleased (a) whether it is a fact that there to state whether the staff car of Ce- is a suspicion that the former Prime Minister’s men including Intelligence ment Tr°Trf ti0n °f India’ a Govern- officers, bureaucrats, publicists and the i-okLok SatoSabha election , ^ WaS by the US6d then for Min- the like have regrouped under a centra- ^ster of State, and employees were lised command on Mrs. Gandhi’s pay- role to scuttle the Janata regime; and - p ' S ? to work for his ei“ “ »

(b) if so, the reaction of Govern- , ™ et o f i n d u s t r y ment thereto and the steps taken in (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES) ■ this diraction? During the months of February and March, 1977, the Office of Shri B P Maurya, the former Minister of THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFA- state m _ the Ministry of indus- IRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) ry, requisitioned a car from the and (b). Government had seen a re- Cement Corporation. The Coreora- port in the press on this subject. But tion allowed the use of one of Government have no other informa- nts direction? it ! L CarS, Wlth strict instructions for its use only within Delhi and that too not for any Election purposes. Accor- ding to the Log Book, the car had Representation about declaration of been used by former Minister 0f Robra Tehsii of Himachal Pradesh State fully for 17 days and partly on as Scheduled Tribe Area six days during February. 1977 for two days fully and partly for 16 3010. SHRI RAMANAND TIWARY: days during March, 1977. The mile- Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS w «*C,°M6red in February 1977 was be pleased to state: <2^66 kilometres and in March 1977 1786 kilometres. The Corporation (a) whether former/present "Gov- presented a bill for the total mila g e ernment have received various repre- payment as per the rules of the Cor- sentations about declaration of Rohm poration and the same for an amount Tehsii particularly Dadra-Kwar, of of Rs. 5143.55 was paid in full in cash Himachal Pradesh as Scheduled Tribe by the former Minister of State on the area; and 16th April, 1977. There was no indu- (b) Mf so, the action taken or pro- cement to any of the employeess or posed to be taken thereon and the the Corporation to work in his Elec- tion campaign. reasons for delay in declaring this area as Scheduled Tribe area? ^rf«ss*i- % TtNrftiTf girr THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFA- sfa ^rr »T5?r IRS (SHRI CHARAN SINGH): (a) and (b). Some representations have 3012. 5TI5^59T< : been received. But as the population of Scheduled Tribes in the Tehsii is irqi <*^7? j% t only 306 out of the total population of 62,910, the Question of declaring (sr) Efqr it as a Scheduled Area does not arise 3091 LS— 6. 163 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 164

Government would be known only on completion of sales of imported cotton 3FT^ ^ ^ ; which are in progress. ^

(?5) I ^T. (c) and (d). The Cotton Corpora- im w r 3TTR 5rm % tion of India contracted for import of 11.61 lakh bales only. Government ?rra ^ ; $fn: have not permitted so far further im- ports. (»r) jrf? ^'t ^ ^ ^T sr?rrm’ | ? J.C.I. capable to run Sick Mills

3014. SHRI CHITTA BASU: Will ^ qfrviPT W O T *f snm t the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: TTW »rft («ft ^ Tm) :(^ ) 5T^ ^«>TT ^ I ^ *ft»T (+'^?r’Tr^) (a) if the Jute Corporation of India has since expressed the view that it m '♦'I iH i H T it ITv T^T^zt is capable to “run sick-mills”; T^^TRt ?rriT ^ i ^'rf ^ 1 (b) if so, the reasons for not hand- ing over to the JCI, the management (^ ) ?TTT (>T). 5T95r ^ ^?TT I of the jute mills fallen sick; and (c) whether the JCI has sought for the clearance for the import of raw L n s to Government due to meeting jute from Bangladesh and Thailand, tke Cotton Reqnirements of Textile and the views of Government there- Mills at subsidised prices on?

3013. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRI- SHNAN: WiU the Minister of INDUS- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY TRY be pleased to state: (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) N® jute mill has been included in (a) whether heavy losses are being the list of sick mills declared as per incarred by Government in meeting provisions of law. the cotton requirements of various (b) Does not arise. tejctile mills at subsidised prices; (c) Jute Corporation of India have (b ) if so. the details thereof? been authorised to import raw jute from available sources on the basis of (c) whether Government have firm indents placed by the consuming decided to suspend the import of cot- mills. ton due to this reason; and

(d) if so, Ihe details thereof? Cotton imported from U.S.A.

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY 3015. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN- (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) DIT: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY and (b). The Cotton Corporation of be pleased to state: India was directed to sell imported (a) whether disputes have arisen cotton du) ing JD76-77 at ruling prices between American Cotton Shippers for corresponding domestic varieties and Indian Textile buyers over the subject to the condition that such quality of cotton imported; sales do not entail a loss beyond 20 per cent as compared to the landed cost. (b) whether the Cotton Corporation E^act amount of loss to the Corpora- of India has failed to bring about a tion or the subsidy to be paid by compromise in this regard; i65 WritUn Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers i 66

(c) the quantity of cotton imported quality arbitration proceedings are by the C.C.I. which proved to be of in progress in the East India Cotton inferior quality; how much erf the Association, where both shippers contracted cotton is yet to be import- and Indian mills are represented. ed; and News-item captioned “Higher Price for (d) the steps C.C.I. has planned to Cotton Sought” solve this problem? 3016. SHRI VASANT SATHE: WiU the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY to state: (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) (a; whether attention of the Gov- 1o (d). Out of 3.7 lakh bales of Ameri- ernment has been drawn to the news can cotton ccutracted by the Cotton report appearing in the National Corporation of India, dispute about Herald dated 9th November, 1977 the quality of cotton has arisen in res- under the caption “Higher Price for pect of 58,285 bales only. The entire cotton sought”; contracted quantity of cotton has al- ready been shipped, out of which 24, (b) if so, the reaction of Govern- 715 bales are under clearance. The ment to the various points/demands Cotton Corporation of India has taken made therein; and the following steps to solve the prob- lem:— (c) steps taken in the maUer?

(1) Arranged a meeting between THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY shippers and representatives of (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) mills as a result of which six cases to (c). The news item “Higher Price covering 9972 bales have been amic- for cotton sought” appearing in the ably settled. National Herald dated 9.11.77 men- tions about certain suggestions made (2) Fifty-eight cases are already by Shri Deorao Patil, Member of in arbitration for quality allowance Parliament in a letter addressed to with East India Cotton Association the Minister of Commerce. The sug- as per the terms of the contract. gestions inter alia relate to fixation (3) Two meetings of the concerned of the support price of H-4 variety of Americans shippers alone with repre- cotton at Rs. 500/- a quintal, in- sentatives of the United States De- creasing the level of support prices, partment of Agriculture and repres- extending the role and operations entative of the Cotton Council Inter- of Cotton Corporation of India, and national, Cotton Exporting Organi- removal of restrictions on holding of sation was arranged by the Corpor- cotton stocks by the Trade. ation on 8th and 11th October, 1977 specifically with a view to enable The support prices are announced the United States Department of based on recommendations of the Agriculture to intervene and impress Agricultral Prices Commission and on the shippers the necessity for they are not related to the market proper settlement. prices. The market prices have been much higher than support prices. The (4) Representatives of United market price is influenced by the States Department of AgTiculture forces of demand and supply, but the had a meeting with Cotton Corpor- support price is fixed on the basis of ation of India on 14.11.77. It was cost of production and after taking decided then that surveys be con- into account the reasonable remuner- ducted by an independent arbitra- ation to the growers so that their inter- tion agency for quantification of est in cotton cultivation is maintained. quality allowances, so that further Tlie question of enlarging the oper- •action could be taken. Accordingly ations of the Cotton Corporation of i 67 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers l 68

India is under active consideration of f WHT0f % »T?lT Government, but Cotton Corporation meanwhile has been actively partici- pating in all the States m the pur- 3018. «ft ^ TT1T 5Tm : chase operations. The question re- ^ > T rpfr ^^?: snrr^r : garding the restrictions on holding of cotton stocks by trade is also under (^r) g-m-5- :f;T hqrq- q-f^ active consideration of the Govern- f ^ J , tvt, ment. 5T5fr, " w " ?nf? % ir f f ^ mT w | ; ?fp;

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Admission of a claim of Rs. 18 lakhs 3. by Deputy Chief Mechanical Engineer ^ ?nf^) Of Calcutta Port Trust

4. q f ^ 'f Tf sr^rnfr-einp-n 3021. SHRI S. K. DHARA: WiU the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- 5. ^ w PORT be pleased to state;

(a) whether it is a fact that the Deputy Chief Mechanical Engineer of Calcutta Port Trust at Haldia had «I. ^RVRlIip ^3'TH)^ allowed and admitted a claim of addi- tional Rs. 18 lakhs of an electrical 1. cjipiirj^ y f^S’T'T^T ?T4Tq; Sub-Contractor by unilateral accept- ance of escalation on sue moto basis fniFfr at the rate of 1.5 per cent per month 2. m f ^Tn'T IT by issue of a letter without obtaining approval or sanction of the Board of ^nf^qT ^ T ^ Trustees or any higher officer; T T ^ r I (b) rules and procedures laid down for such jobs; and 3. 5 T $ -^ ^ ^RT^'T % 5RT=tT^ ?nf5 (c) action Government propose to take against the guilty officers and if ^ f?fTT I there has been a violation and mal- practice? Daily Wages Workers in C.S.I.R. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 3020. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF the Minister of PLANNING be pleased SHIPPING AND TRASPORT (SHRI to state: CHAND RAM) (a). No, Sir. (b) Escalation claims preferred by (a) the number of daily wages wor- contractors, if found admissible on ex- kers working in CSIR all over India; amination under the terms of the con- tract, are placed before competent au- (to) since when they are working in thority for a decision. that organisation; and (c) Does not arise. (c) whether there is any confirma- tion rule with regard to the employ- ment of CSIR workers and daily wage Production of Soaps by M/s. Hindustan workers? Lever Ltd. 3022. SHRI P. K. KODDIYAN: Will THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased MORARJI DESAI): (a) and (b). The to state: information is being collected and the Hon’ble Member will be informed in (a) whether big companies like due course. Hindustan Lever Limited are produc- ing popular soaps with varying T.F.N. (c) The rules and orders issued by from time to time for the sake of the Government of India from time to profiteering; time in regard to confirmation of their staff, are made applicable to the work- (b) whether such maniprulations are ers (regular employees) of the CSIR- possible because toilet soap manufac- There are no rules for confirmation of turers are not required to conform to Daily Wage Wokers in the CSIR. a standard with I.S.I. marking; and 173 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 174

(c) if so, the Action taken by Gov- generally do not permit credit to cover ernment against such manipulations? the foreign exchange required to be incurred in executing the order, nor do THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY they allow credit for expenditure on (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) to freight. The Indian financial institu- (c). It is true that the T.F.M. (Total tions also insist on international bank, Fatty Matter) content of soap is not guarantee to be given by the foreign uniform for different brands. The mi- Railway. nimum percentage of T.F.M. has been prescribed in the I.S.I. standards. How- ever, the I.S.I. certification scheme is voluntary and hence action can be Nationality of Mrs. Sqnia Gandhi and liiken ior not conforming to these spe- her stay in India cifications. 3024. SHRI KAN WAR LAL GUPTA: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS Indian Wagon Industry be pleased to state:

3023. SHRI SURENDRA BIKRAM: (a) whether Government are aware SHRI M. RAMGOFAL of the fact that Mrs. Sonia Gandhi, REDDY: wife of Shri Rajiv Gandhi has declar- ed her nationality as “Italian” ; WiU the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) how long a foreigner can stay at a time in India; (a) whether it is a fact that Indian Wagon Industry has lost many con- (c) whether Mrs. Sonia Gandhi had tracts in foreign countries; applied for stay in India; (b) whether the industry sought financial assistance for all its products (d) if so, for how long and what was the Government’s reply; and in overseas markets on deferred pay- ment; and ; (e) the action taken against her by (c) if so, the decision taken there- Government for over-staying in India? on?

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The Government is examining the THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI project of the Karnataka Government P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a). The Cen- before recommending the same for tral Government is not subsidising the World Bank assistance. nationalised coal sector. However, non,- plan support to the extent required is Use of Slau|:hter Mining Methods given to Coal India Limited by way of loaus which are to be repaid with in- 3033. SHRI R. L. P. VERMA: Will terest. the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) No, Sir. (a) whether Central Government are subsidising the nationalised coal ^ fjw fn i' sector to the extent of Rs. 100 crot>e a year for neutralising wage increase; «r>T VT W UPTT and

(b) whether slaughter mining has continued on a wide scale and such slaughter mining methods have been adopted particularly during the obser- vance of production-cum-safety fort- nights? IV rittcn Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 184 183

Recommendation of Fuel Policy Com- ( ^ ) m 'rfr- ^ mittee on Consumption of Coal it f^5Trirri#T ;<035. SHRI R. L. P. VERMA: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to ^r'jT’iferT's c» " state: 1 977 VTT^T qrtSPT (a) whether Fuel Policy Committee had recommended in 1972 that coal g’JTzi f 5 »rf should be primary source of energy in India but in spito of that, consump frfvT f f ; tion level for the past five years have not increased beyond 7 per cent growth per year; ( ’if) ^ ^ ^ (b) whether it shows stagnation in rrnT% ^ ^ wmNrfT ^.t ^ .' <.’(.ono!n\' for the Iasi fi\'c years; and (c) whether the present Govern- ment propose to initiate' any action on Ibis'? 3^3rf (« tV 'fto TmxT5R) : THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI P. RAMACHANDilAN): (a) (^) ?fK (^). ^ 5nr^ The Fuel Policy Committee had re- commended that coal should be con- w qftsTJi f^rar j r t ?tt ^'t sidered as the primary sourcc of ^ f^^TTf iff ^n'arrwT^ t r r t h energy in the country l\)f tiie next few decades and the energy policy of ^T R qr? ’TOT -4] I

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1973-74 77' 74 million lonncs 1974-75 !iG- 15 million lonnc.s io-f: J975-7('' <)2- 86 million totincs 7 -8 1976-77 99'(10 million tonnes 7'2

The growth rate is evidtr>tly more ihan 7 per cent. (b) and (c). Does note arise. (b) the steps proposed by the Gov- ernment to regularise such appoint- Regularisation of Employees in Central ments9 Industrial Security Force THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 3037. SHRI S. R. REDDY: Will the MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be plea- (SHRI S. D. PATIL): sed to state:

(a) Asstl, Comdts — 101 (a) the number of Assistant Com- mandants, Inspectors, HSG and Secu- Inspectors — 141 rity Guards holding ad hoc appoint- HSGs —Upto ments in the Central Industrial Securi- date figures in respect of ty Force for over one year; and Head Security Guards are 185 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 186

not available at the Head- (c) whether the scientific and senior quarters. The figures are be- staff is dissatisfied with regard to the ing obtained from the field working and administration of the units/Zonal Hqrs. The same above unit; will be furnished on receipt. (d) whether Government have SGs —Nil looked into the administrative ex- (b) Action is in hand to regularise penses and activities of the above these appointments. institution; and (e) if so, the steps taken to reorga- Officers and Men of C.I.S.F. nize it and remove the deficiencies?

3038. SHRI S. R. REDDY: WiU tfie THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleas- MORARJI DESAI); (a). Yes, Sir. The ed to state: Bombay Textile Research Association (a) the number of officers and men has been recognised by the Council of of Central Industrial Security Force Scientific and Industrial Research for who completed more than five years grant in aid but is not under the con- of service in Delhi; trol of the Council of Scientific and Industrial Research as such. (b) whether Government propose to -rotate them-* and (b) to (e). The matter is being look- (c) if not, what is the Government’s ed into and the Hon’ble Member will policy in this matter? ^ be informed of the position, in due course. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI S. D. PATIL) Matching Contribution by States for the Central Assistance for Handlooro (a) (i) Officers — 10 3040. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN- Men —77 DIT: (b) and (c). Yes, except 4 officers SHRI GOVIND RAM MIRI: and 26 men who belong to new-unifor- med posts of Central Industrial Secu- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be rity Force. pleased to state:

Misuse of Funds by Bombay Textile (a) whether in the release of assis- Research Association under C.S.I.R. tance to State Governments for handloom development Schemes, the 3039. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN- Central Government are mostly in- DIT: Will the Minister of PLANNING sisting on matching contributions from be pleased to state: State Governments and if so, the de- tails thereof; (a) whether complaints of misuse of public fund and mal-administration (b) whether the State Governments has been received regarding Bombay have requested that matching contri- Textile Research Association under butions may not be insisted upon; and the control of the Council of Scienti- fic and Industrial Research receiving (c) if so, the action taken by the grants from Central Government; Central Government thereon?

(b) whether no research activity THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY nor scientific knowledge and tech- (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) nology is being encouraged by the Out of four Centrally Sponsored Co- institution; operative coverage Schemes there is 187 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers ISS a matching contribution from the State The information about the processes Governments in respect of three sche- handed over to industry and the mes. They are: amount earned on account of that is (i) Share Capital Assistance lor not readily available and the Ifon't'ie Member will be informed in due revitalisation of Dormant P-imary course. Handloom Weavers Co-operative So- cieties and formation of new ones; The expendituie incurred projott- (ii) Share Capital Assistant.^ for wise is not available as the jirn.iectw' Apex Co-operative Societies of i'v'cnnr'l.s are no’ main 'iiin.'it. Handloom weavers: (b) Eight Service and Maintonai.:e (iii) Share Capital Assistance for Centre.s are being run by the CSI3. State Handloom Development Corpo- The Hon’ble Member will be iivrormoci rations. of the details of the receipt and expen- diture on these Centres in duo course (b) Yes, Sir. as the information is not readily ux pli- able. (c) Matter is under consideration.

Shifting of Doordarshan Kendra rrojects Undertaken at Central Amritsar Scientific Instruments Organisation .•3042. SHRI BHAGAT RAM: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 3041. SHRI BHAGAT RAM: Will the BROADCASTING be pleased to .state: Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state: (a) whether it has been decided Government to shift Doordarshan (a) how many fresh projects Kendra, Amritsar (located at prese-.t (major & minor) were undertaken at in New Delhi) to Amritsar; the Central Scientific Instruments Organisation during the last three (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and years and how many of them were completed and in how much time and (c) the reason for not shifting to how many of them were taken up by Jiillundur where T.V. building has al- the industry and the money received most been completed to avoid extr:. vls-a-vis expenditure on the Project; expenditure and to utilise the hug'f and amount incurred on the building ?t Jullundur? (b) how many Service and Mainte- nance Centres are being run by the THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION Administration and details of the AND BROADCASTING (SHRI L. K. receipt and expenditure on these ADVANI): (a) No, Sir. The intention Centres for the last three years? is to shift it to Jullunder when the Jul- lunder Kendra is ready. The existing THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI T.V. set up at Amristar will then be MORARJI DESAI): (a). The Central a relay centre to Jullundur, Scientific Instruments Organisation (CSIO), Chandigrah, has intimated that (b) Does not arise. about 70 projects were undertaken by the organisation during the years 1974- (c) The .studios have not bren set up 75, 1975-76 and 1976-77. Out of them at Jullundur yet. The Jullundur Ken- 32 projects have been completed and dra is expected to be commissioned in 38 projects are continuing. The pro- 1978-79. The activities of the Amristar cesses were completed within the span Kendra will then be shifted from Delhi of 1 to 3 years. to Jullundur. ig p Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 190

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES); (a) One o£ the important objectives of the 3043. «ft Wlf5T : Government is to maximize employ- ^'TT : ment through industrialisation which would also benefit the educated unem- ployed persons. Establishment of indus- (^ ) ^ «TTT^ ip tries in the Public Sector would prfimo- % ?WcT^5TT %^r^q‘T ^ fr^. |73t te such employment.

'r f r ^ 'f ^ TTS^ra-p- | (b) The Rolling Plan for 1978-t«3, which would include provision for new r^Ff ^ 1 9 5 7 % industries in the Public Sector by the Central Government in vari-jus States 7 I ; ?r>7: includini; Kerala, is being formulated

(?J) W 5T^ ir atrJTT Hill-Highway on the Western Ghat of 'riXWR «fl- ^ 1 957 ^ q^^rrft ?9FT Kerala ^ I ? 3045. SHRI GEROGE METHEW: Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND n ? T r a m 5^ 773IT »T’rft («fV TRANSPORT be pleased to state:

tVo trrf^): (^r) f^cirfii^'f^T (a) whether the Government of India are considering a proposal t* 18S7 % ?f^nT ij w r f^T^n- «n build a Hill Highway along the Western Ghats in Kerala; and W ?: 1 5, JTtTT 5K5T % 2,

n rr^ -^ iff ^'T ^ €t (b) if so, what assistance the Gen. tral Government propose to give t» »rf P, I the State for that purpose?

( J ? ) ^ S'JiYiTR I 1WT JT^ ir THE MINISTER OF STATE IK- CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY 6 f cTtcm ^ ^ ?R f TJ 1 9 59 ^ SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI ?9R ^'tf:^ ^ iTf t I CHAND RAM ); (a> No, Sir. This road when built, will be a State Road and, therefore, falls within the sphere o' Setting Up of Industries where ttiere activities of the State Govoinment. is Maximum Unemployment of the Educated in Kerala (b) Does not arise.

3044. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW: Per Capita Expenditure on Develop- WiU the Minister of INDUSTRY be ment of Vtlla^e^ pleased to state: (a) whether the Central Govern, 3046. SHRI RAMANAND TIWARY: ment propose to set up industries Will thp Minister of PLANNING b- under the Public Sector where there is pleased to state per capita expenditure maximum unemployment of the edu- on the Development of villages during cated; and nil the Five Year Plans, Plan-wise nnd State-wise? (b) whether Central Government have got any plans to set up some of THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI the new industries under public MORARJI DESAI): It is not possible sector in Kerala? to classify all Plan outlays as benefit- 191 Written Answers DECEMBER 7, 1977 Written Answers 192. ing either rural or urban areas speci- fically. Thus it is not feasible to esti- SKT 3F^Rftsfk mate how much of past plan expendi- 11^ ^ I iflT ture has gone into the v'iUages. It is regretted that no meaningli’l estimate sfTT^ ^ «r^frr % ?nuTT of per capita development outlay fgfrr JPT I on villages can, be proposer], either State-wise or on all India basis.

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requirement of the Services. It would not be in the public interest to disclose (sp) f r g f ^ details. % UT>T fJT>nT ?TraTfT isrtr ^3TR w f TT v'njJT jftst ^ Designing and manufacture of electron Microscope f I 3050. SHRI D. D. DESAI; Will the (jw) ir ’PTTTT Minister of ELECTRONICS be pleased to stale: ^ 80 4 5rra ^qtr ^ ?rrtT far^d^sRcr f-TUTT (a) whether indigenous capacity to design and manufacture electron mic-

7WRTV ?nnnf3r?T ^ q f' | V. 1 ^ roscopes exists in the country; and 172 ^ ^'v ^ (b) if so, the details thereof?

I 700 TFtn#JT % t h e p r i m e m i n i s t e r (SHRI MO- II ^ TTqrfrfnrr ^ RARJI DESAI) : (a) and (b). A proto- type scanning electron microscox>e has 5r t I w m , % ^'hr?r been assembled at the Central Scienti- fic Instruments Organisation (CSIO) f^TT? PsHTf ^ ^ Chandigarh in collaboration with a Jitsff ^ f w ^nr»n I number of other laboratories. The Cen- tral Electronics Engineering Research (*t ) ffjr^rT ^ f^fdiT Institute(CElERI) , Pilani has develop- ed all the associated electronics includ- ■

Brinsiae down the dare of the mnl- (£,) whether the Cement Corporation tlBationals and bi^: Business houses in of India gave large amount for adver- ' production of Soap and other tisements to ‘Surya’ and Header’s Consumer Items Digest’; and 3051. SHRI K. MALIJ^NNA; Will (b) if so, facts thereabout? the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (a) whether there is any proposal (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) under consideration of Government to and (b). The Cement Corporation of bring down the share of the multuia- India gave an advertisement in ‘Surya’ tionals and big business houses in the at a cost of Rs. 4 000/- and another production of soap and other consu- advertisement in Ihe special supple- mer items with a view to encouraging ment for February, 1977 issue of ‘Read- production of these items in the small er's Digest’ at a cost of Rs. 7,000/-. scale sector; and (b) if so, the details regarding the , policy of Government in this regard? Road Bridg^e on Jamuna between Delhi and Mathura THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) :J053. SHRI DHARM VIR VASISHT: ’ and (b). It is the policy of the Govern- SHRI NAWAL SINGH CHAU- ment to encourage the production of HAN: wage goods necessary for mass con- sumption and consumer articles in the Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND small scale sector and by the village TRANSPORT be pleased to state; industries to the extent possible and in a progressive manner to provide (a) whether Government have re- " fuller employment. The Industrial Li- ceived representations from Haryana censing Policy Resolution of 1973 has and Uttar Pradesh representatives in already excluded foreign majority com- Parliament and State Assemblies for panies and large houses from industries providing a road bridge on the not listed in Appendix I of that Re- Jamuna river between Delhi and solution except where the production is Mathura; and predominently for exports. Small and medium entrepreneurs are preferred (b) if so, steps taken to meet the vis-a-vis foreign majority companies demand? and large houses for setting up of new capacity. Cooperatives and small and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- medium entrepreneurs are encouraged CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF to participate in the production of mass SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI consumption goods. The Government CHAND RAM); (a) and (b). Presum- aims by consistent and vigorous imple- ably Ihe reference relates to the p ro mentation of these policies, to bring posed Yamuna Bridge near Palwal. The down in due course the share of foreign Haryana Government are concerned majority companies and large houses with it as it falls on a State road. While in the production of soap and other Government have not received any re- consumer items. presentations, about this bridge as A—am t for Advertisem'ents to ‘Snrya’ such, a Central loan assistance of and ‘Reader’s Direst’ by Cement Cor- Rs. 1.00 crore was agreed to for it in poratioii of India the 4th Plan. Latest cost estimates as intimated by Haryana Government, 3052. WiU SHRI SAMAR GUHA; however, amount to R«. 187.40 lakhs. the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased Haryana Government have agreed to to State; meet the excess of Bm. 87.40 lakhs from Wrttten A nnttnt AJCrRAHAYANA 19, ISgSt i^ A K ^ ) V^ften 4^ ers 19$ their Central Rodd Fund Allocations. q r fTw ^ Actual construction rests with the Haryana Government. Approaches on ^ *rPT ^ ^ the Haryana and Uttar Pradesh sides 517^^ I are to be constructed by the two Gov- ernments respectively from their own (5t ) >jTPfy f w t resources including their Central Road ^ ^ ^3?TT^ Pund Allocations. ^ ?TW T ^ f ^ F»R't I ^ ^ ^ ^ I I fa ? «TT 5TFIP

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3056. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will 3058. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be to state: pleased to state;

(a) whether it is a fact that the (a) whether it is a fact that whilst supply of Consumer items to the ACC Vickers Babcock Ltd. including defence personnel throughout the its Durgapur Plant are selling boilers country has been ciffected for the last entirely at their price, their boilers, some days due to the indefinite strike specially big ones, are not upto the by the employees of the Canteen required standard and specification; Stores Department: and (b) whether it is also a fact that (b) if so, what action has been the Boiler Inspector of West Bengal taken or Government propose to take Government refuse to pass their pro- and when? ducts because that was below the specification; and THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM); (a) and (b). (c) if so, will the Government en. The strike of the Canteen Stores De- quire into the matter and take suitable partment employees Union, which action against this company? started on the 15th November, has now been called off. The supplies THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY of consumer items to Defence Person- (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES); (a) nel have remained unaffected. The ACC Vickers Babcock Ltd. are selling boilers in competition with the Law and Oi^er in North Eastern States Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd. and as such they would not be in a position 3057. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO; to sell boilers at their own price. We Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS have not received any complaints to this effect. We have also not received be pleased to state; complaints to the effect that their boil- (a) whether Government are aware ers including big ones are not up to that the law and order situation in the required standard and specifica- the North Eastern States of Assam, tion. Nagaland, Manipur, Meghalaya and Mizoram is deteriorating very fast; (bj There has been no case where a boiler manufactured by M/s. ACC Vi- (b) whether the situation is caused ckers Babcock Ltd. was refused' to be by boundary disputes between some passed and certified by the Boiler Ins- of those States and revival of the pector of West Bengal Government be- activities of insurgents in those areas; cause that was below the specification. and Does not arise. (c) the reaction of Government to the situation? Shortage of Raw Wool causing unem- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ployment of Weavers MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI S- D. PATIL): (a) No Sir. There 3059. SHRI YADVENDRA DUTT; has been no deterioration in the law Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be fnd order situation in the North East- pleased to state: ern States. (a) whether an acute shorta»;> of (b) and (c ) . Do not arise. raw wool needed for carr>et weaving a05 A fuwen AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (.SAKAf WHtten Answers 206

has occurred leading to unemployment THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of a very large number of weavers, MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS causing acute distress; (SHRI S. D. PATIL); (a) The num- ber of theft cases in September, 1977 (b) if so, whether this has threat- was less as compared to the months of ened over export trade in the world July and August, 1977. However in market; the month of October, 1977 there was a slight increase in the number of (c) whether Iran and Pakistan, our thefts. main competitors have cut the prices of their export by subsidising the (b) Great emphasis is being laid to manufacturers so as to undersell our check the incidents of theft by intensi- carpets in the international market; fying patrolling by both uniform men and and plain clothes stafT especially in the crime a fleeted areas, by developing cri- (d) what is Government doing to m.'jals intelligence, surveillance over meet the shortage of raw wool, and known criminals; organising Naka- also the steps taken to meet the bandi and traps, extemment of bad undercutting by our competitors? characters, frequoat drives agamst anti-social elements and having a regular general ‘Gasht’ with an element THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY of surprise for criminals by changing (SKRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) its timings and dates. and (b). No, Sir.

Giving 9i Pistols to Congress Workers (c) Iran and Pakistan are our com- daring Elections petitors in the field of export of car- pets; the exact amount of subsidy given 30G1. SHRI YADVENDRA DUTT: to exporters of carpets in these two Will the Minister of DEFENCE be countries is not known. pleased to state:

(d) While carpet w'eavers ?re st pre- (a) whether his attention has been sent not facing shortage of raw wool, drawn to the charge made at page 15S whenever shortage would occur India of Shri Janardan Thakur’s book ‘All will have to import wool from abroad the Prime Minister’s Men’ that the for production of carpets in the coun- former Minister of Defence had given try. and cash assistance is actually orders to the Ordnance Disposal De- being given to Indian exporters of car- partment of the Army that Congress pets 10 the extent that they are priced workers should be given five hundred out in the foreign markets. pistols during the elections and if so, whether a copy of that order would be laid on the Table of the House; Spurt in Thefts in Delhi and

(b) whether that order was com- 3060. SHRI O. P. TYAGI: Will the plied with and if so, whether the pis- Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleas- tols were returned? ed to state: THE MINISTER. OF DEFENCE (a) whether there has been a (SHRI J AG J IVAN RAM): (a) No sudden spurt in theft cases in Delhi orders were received by Ordnance Di- during the month of September and rectorate of Army HQ for issue of Pis- October, 1977; and tols t,o Congess workers during elec- tions. (b) if so, the reaction of Govern- ment thereto? (b) Does not arise. T ion Written Aiwwcra DXCEMBBR 7, 1977 A n m n v n 208

Pnreluwe of U. S. Fifliter PUuies Out of theae 8 mills, two mills, Waverly and Kelvin bad started functioning by 3062. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: 1.2.1977. The management of three Will the Minister of DEFENCE be units Khardah, Union and Alexandra, pleased to stale: have been taken over by the Govern- ment and the first two have already (a) whether India is going to buy started functioning. Alexandra Jute US fighter planes and whether it will Mills is expected to start operating mean more price for us to pay; very soon. (b) whether it is also a fact that there are certain disadvantages in Another unit, Naffarchandra Jute this deal; and Mills which has been taken over by the proprietors of a running jute mill, (c) if so, details thereof? has also started functioning. Possibi- lities are being explored regarding re- THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE opening of R. B. H. M. Jute Min. (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM); (a) There is no profK)sal under consideration at pre- So far as Bharat Jute Mill is con- sent. cerned it is considered that there is no possibility of reopening it. (b) and (c). Do not arise. From the above, if would be seen Closure of Jute Mills that 5 out of the eight jute miUs lying closed at the end of 1976 have started 3063. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: functioning and another is expected to ■ Will the Minister of INDUSTRY V>e start working very soon. Moreover, pleased to state: one of the these 8 units is not capable of being restarted. (a) how many jute mills are now lying closed; (b) whether the Minister gave an assurance some months ago that closed wWf ^ f5TsrfT«r % fw r jute mills would be reopened within a short time; and

(c) what are the reasons for non- 3 0 64. ftrsiw: fulfilment of the assurance? sft afto : THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES); (a) 7 jute mills are lying closed at present. ^ ^ if (b) and (c). At the end of 1976 the following 8 jute mills were lying clos- e d :— M'di 1. Khardah Co. Ltd. ^ frof ftr I srh qf? ^ ? 2. Union Jute Mills 3. Bharat Jute Mills efhroft l?TTf) : 4. Waverly Jute Mills 5. Alexandra Jute Mills ^ *pnHT ^ fsr^rR I; 6. Naffarchandra Jute Mills fsnrir JT? WT ^ ^ 7. Kelvin Jute Co. ?r trot I# t I 8. R. B. H. M. Jute MUls a 09 Written Answers AGRAHAYAIfA 16, 1899 (SAKA) WHtten Answers 210

DisropUon of'Coal Froduotion in (b) whether wife and close relatives Eaatem Befton of late Lalit Narain Mishra have not 3065. SHHI SAUGATA ROY; been examined by the Mathew Com- mission; DR. SUBRAMANIAM sW AM Y: Will the Minister of ENERGY be (c) whether Mathew Commission •pleased to state: could not proceed with the enquiry (a) whether the coal production ha^ quite freely due to pressure under the situation created by the last Emer- got seriously disrupted in the Eastern gency; region leading to stoppage of work at Durgapur Steel Plaut; (d) if so, whether a fresh inquiry (b) what are the reasons for this will be instituted about the killing of disruption; and Late Laiit Narain Mishra; and (c) what steps the Government are (e) if so, facts thereabout? taking to remedy the situation?

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE P. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) and (b). MINISTRY’ OF HOME AFFAIRS Coal production in the Eastern Region (SHRI DHANIK LAL MANDAL); (a) was alTected due to inadequate avail- The criminal case instituted in this ability of explosives as a result of the connection is pending before the trial strike at Gomia Explosives factory. Court and is sub judice. Another cause was the strike at coal washeries at Dagda & Bhojudih. How- (b) The family members of late Shri ever during ihe months of September Lalit Narain Mishra were represented and October 1977, about 3,64,000 tonnes before the Commission with their coun- of Coal was supplied to the Durgapur sel. Dr. Jagan Nath Mishra, brother of Steel Plant. Last year during there late Shri Mishra, was examined by the months, the supply was to the tune of Commission. 3,25,000 tomies. There was no stoppage of work at the Durgapur Steel Plant. (c) The Commission has not made (c) The strike at the explosives fac- any such observations in ?ts Report. tory and the coal washeries has since Attention is, however, invited to the been withdrawn and normal production memorandum of action laid on the has been resumed. The coal companies Tabic of the House, alongwith the Re- are taking action to step up coal pro- port of the Commission on November duction. 14. 1977.

Fresh Inquiry into the Murder of Shri (d) and (e). Government have no L. N. Mishra proposal for a fresh inquiry at ’ this stage. 3067. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHRY: Supply of Junk Computor Equipment SHRI UGRASEN; to Government by I.B.M. SHRI YADVENDRA DUTT: 30r,8. SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS Will the Minister of ELECTRONICS be be pleased to state; pleased to state; (a) whether Government will take follow-up action after subttnission (a) whether Government are aware of inconclusive findings about killing of the report published in ‘Patriot’ of late Lalit Narain Mishra, a former dated the 23rd November, 1977, about Minister of the Central Government supply of junk Computor equipment by the Mathew Commission; to Government by I.B.M.; Papers Lola a t x a n Papers L«id 7, i m

(b) M so, the facts thereof; and Indian Statistic Institute, Calcutta, for the year 1973-74, (c) the action taken by Govern- (2) A copy of the Annual Report ment thereon? (Hindi and English versions) of the THE PRIi.IE MINISTER (SHRl MO- Indian Statistical Institute, Calcutta, RARJI D E S A l) ; (a) Government is for the year 1974-75. [Placed in aware of the lepor'. leferreLi >o in the Library. See No. LT-1277/77]. question. N a v a l C e r e m o n i a l C oN D rrioN S OF (b) and (c). In accordance with the S e r v i c e a n d M iscellaneous ( A m e n d - prOMi'cns ot ihe Foreign Exchange MDNT) R e g u l a t i o n s , 1977 Regulation Act (FERA), 1973. Govern- ment had asked IBM to c o n v e r t i.heir THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE t'rar.ch into an Indian c o m p a n y and to (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): I beg to diiU'.e the foreign e q u iiy in tliat com- lay On the Table a copy of the Naval pany !o 4'1 p e r ce n t. Hoavever, in their Ceremonial Conditic.is of Service and resiDonse of 7 November, 1977, IBM Miscellaneous (Amendment) Regula- have conveyed to Government their tions, 1977 (Hindi and English ver- inability 'o c o m p ly with these require- sions) published in Notification No. m c ts of the FERA, and their decision, S.R.O. 278 in Gazette of India dated as a consequence, io phase out their the 13th August, 1977, under section operations here. As part of this phase- 185 of the Navy Act, 1957. [Placed out, IBM have offered that the com- in Library. See No. LT-1278/77]. puter and other data processing equip-

ment which have been rented out by A n n u a l R e p o r t s o f D e v e l o p m e n t them to users, would be sold outright C o u n c i l f o b A u t o m o b i l e s , A u t o m o b i - to users on the following terms: H ; A n c i l l a r y In d u s t r i e s e t c ., a n i > (i) The purchase price would be D e v e l o p m e n t C o u n c i l f o r P a p e r P u l p an amount equivalent to a n d A l u e d I n d u s t r i e s f o r 1976-77, three month s rental charges; B u r n Co. & B s i a t h w a t t e Co. (I n d i a ) L t d . ( A q u i s i t i o n a n d T r a n s f e h o f (ii) Existing users would continue U ndertakings ) R u l e s , 1977, e t c . e t c . to use their IBM eauipment during the three m o n th s for THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY which the above purchase (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): I price is paid and IBM would beg to lay on the Table— provide maintenance services during this period at no addi- (1) A copy each of the following tional charge. IBM’s phase- Reports (Hindi and English ver- out plan is under the conside- sions) under sub-section (4) of sec- ration of Government. tion 7 of the Industries (Develop- ment and Regulation) Act, 1951: —

PART II (i) Annual Report of the Deve- lopment Council for Automobiles, 12 hrs. Automboile Ancillary Industries, PAPERS I.AID ON '^HE TABLE Transport Vehicle Industries, Trac_ tors, Earthmoving Equipment and A n n u a l R e p o r t s o f I n d i a n 5 t “.t t s t i c a l Internal Combustion Engines for iNSTiTtiTE, C a l c u t t a f o r 1973-74 a n d 1974-75 the year 1976-77. [Ploced in Lib- rary. See No. LT-1279/77]. t h e PRIME MINISTER (SHRI MORARJI DESAI): I beg to lay on (ii) Annual Report of the Deve- lopment Council for Paper, Pulp the Table— and Allied Industries for the year (1) A copy of the Annual Report 1976-77. [Placed in Library. See (Hindi and English versions) of the No. LT-1280/77]. Papers Laid A«RAlTATAKA l«, 1899 (lS«MtJl) Powers Laid 21^ 213

(ii) The Indian Merchant Ship- (2) A copy of the Burn Company ping (Construction and Survey of and Indian Standard Wagon Com- Passenger Steamers) Amendment pany (NationaUsation) Rules, 1977 Rules, 1977, published in Notifica- (Hindi and English versions) pub- tion No. G.S.R. 1444 in Gazette lished in Notification No. S.O. 755(E) of India dated the 29th October, in Gazette of India dated the 7th 1977. [Placed in Library. See No. November, 1977 under sub-section LT-1284/77], (3) of section 31 of the Burn Com- pany and Indian Standard Wagon (2) A copy of the Seamen’s Pro- Cc-;npany (Nationatisation) Act 1976. vident Fund (Amendment) Scheme, [Pla-ed in Library. Seg No. No. 1977 (Hindi and English versions) LT-1281/77], published in Notification No. G.S.R. 1591 in Gazette of India dated the (3) A copy of the Braithwaite and 19th November, 1977, under section Company (India) Limited (Acqui- 24 of the Seamen’.s Provident Fund sition and Transfer of Undertakings) Act, 1966. [Placed in Library. See Rules, 1977 (Hindi and English No, LT-1285/77]. versions) published in Notification No. S.O. 756(E) in Gazette of India A n n u a l R e p o r t o f D e v e l o p m e n t dated the 7th November, 1977, under C o u n c i l f o r F o o d P r o c e s s i n g I n d u s - sub-sesction (3) of section 30 of the t r i e s f o r 1976-77 Braithwaite and Company (India) Limited (Acquisition and Transfer THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of Undertakings) Act, 1976. [Placed MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (KUMARI in Library. See No. L T -1282/77], ABHA HAITI): I beg to lay on the (4) A copy of the Corrigendum’ Table a copy of the Annual Report pi the English version of the Audit (Hindi and English versions) of the Report* on the account of Coir Development Council for Food Proces- Board. Ernakulam for the year 1975- sing Industries for the year l«7«-77, 76. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- under sub-section (4) of section 7 of 1283/77]. the Industries (Development and Re- gulation) Act, 1951. [Placed in Lib- rary. See No. LT-1286/77]. N otifications u n 'j e r M e r c h a n t S h i p p - i n g A c t , 1958 a n d S e a m e n ’s P.F. (A m t .> S c h e m e , 1977 N otifications u n d e r C e n t r a l E x c i s e R u l e s , 1944 a n d D e l h i S a l e s T a x THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- (T h i r d A m t . ) , R u l e s , 1977 CHARGE OF THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE CHAND RAM): I beg to lay on the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Table— ZULFIQUARULLAH): I beg to lay on (1) A copy each of the following the Table— Notifications (Hindi and English ver- (1) A copy each of the following sions) under sub-section (3) of sec- tion 458 of the Merchant Shipping Notifications (Hindi and English ver- Act, 1958: — sions) issued under the Central Ex- cise Rules, 1944: — (i) The Merchant Shipping (Fire Appliances) Amendment Rules, (i) G.S.R. 722(E) published in 1977, published in Notification No. Gazette of India dated the 30th G.S.R. 1223 in Gazette of India November, 1977 together with an dated the 17th September, 1977. explanatory memorandum. ♦The Audit Report was laid on the Table on 15.6.77. j» i5 Petitions Comm. Report DECEMBER 7. 1977 ai6

(ii) G.S.R. 729(E) published in PETITION re. DEMANDS OF Gazette of India dated the 2nd RAILWAYMEN December, 1977 together with an PROF. DILIP CHAKARVARTY explanatory memorandum. [Pla- (Calcutta South): Sir, I present a pe- ced in Library. See No. LT-1287/ tition signed by Shri J. P. Chaubey, 77]. General Secretary, All India Railway- men’s Federation, regarding demands (2) A copy of the Delhi Sales of Railwaymen. Tax (Third Amendment) Rules, 1977 (Hindi and English versions) pub- lished in Notification No. F. 4/33/75- Fin. ((1) (ii) in Delhi Gazette dated SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia- the 26th November. 1977 under sec- mond Harbour): Sir, I have given no- tion 72 of the Delhi Sales Tax Act. tice. There is an explosive situation 1975. [Pla:ed iv Library. See No. de\’eloping in KEinpiir in which five LT-1288/77]. per.sons died, and this is happening be-- cause of gross mismangament on the Pfirt of the employers, the Swadeshi Cotton Mills, It is a very serious sit- uation. , , 12.03 brs. MR, SPEAKER: I have allowed a call-attention on that matter. PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE F i r s t R e p o r t SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I want to make a submission 60 days’ wage,^ SH RI C. M. STEPHEN (Idukki): have not been paid, and a sum of Rs, Sir, I present the First Report of the 5 lakhs has been spent on his son’s Accounts Committee on Paragraphs 30, marriage last night at 1, Barakhamba S3 and 38 of the Report of the Com- Road—the Jaipurias, It is a very se- ptroUer and Auditor General of India rious matter... for the year 1974-75, Union Goverp- ment (Defence Services). MR. SPEAKER: You cannot make a speech now. I have allowed a call- attention.

COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE MEM- SHRI C. M. STEPHEN (InUukki)- BERS’ BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS the Home Minister has made a state- ment in Bombay saying that the Shah N i n t h R e p o r t Commission will issue a warrant SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY against Mrs, , He has (Nizamabad); I present the Ninth Re* also said that the Shah Commission pert of the Committee on Private I'lern- will inquire into the justifiability of bers’ Bills and Resolutions. Emergency Declaration. This is an interference in the judicial process. The Shah Commission is a body in tht finding of which the nation puts a lot COMMITTEE ON PETITIONS of stock. It is dangerous to allow the credibility of the Shah Commission to F i r s t R e p o r t be eroded and to give an imprt\ssion that the Ministers are interfering, (In- ft terruptions) An impression is gaining %(m ?r, qfirffT crf?rT ground that the Shah Commission is functioning under the directive of the Home Minister, Well this is a very serious situation and this is matter on AGRAHAYANA 16. 1899 (SAKA) 2lS 217 Petition which a discussion in the House is 12.10 hrs. necessary. I cannot think of a sit- uation more serious than this—the QUESTIONS OF PRIVILEGE Home Minister giving dir'jctives to the Shah Commission by open statements, ( i ) C e r t a i n r e m a r k s b y S h r i M a d h u public statements to the Press and on L i a m a y e a b o u t t h e S p e a k e r o p the public platform. What business F i f t h L o k S a b h a has the Home Minister to say that the Shah Conmiission will issue a warrant? MR. SEAKER: Shri C. M. Stephen What business has he to say that the has given a notice of question of pri- Shah Commission will give a report vilege against Shri Madhu Limaye, about the justifiability of the Emer- MP for certain observations made by gency? Is the Shah Commission a him in the House on 16th November, proxy of the Home Minister? This 1977 in respect of Speaker of Fifth is what is being done and, therefore, Lok Sabha. I gave notice for an Adjournment Motion to discuss this very serious sit- I have gone through the English uation that the Home Minister has translation of the statement made by created by giving the impression thai Shri Madhu Limaye when his privilege the Shah Commission is functioning motion against Mrs. Gandhi, the former under his directive. This is a sericu? Prime Minister, was taken up. Dur- situation and I seek your permission ing the course of his statement, he, to move that the House may adjourn observed as follows; 10 discuss this very serious matter. (Interruption). “When Shrimati Indira Gandhi got two-thirds majority, she was con- MR. SPEAKER: I have already dis- tinuously working towards the sub- allowed this adjournment motion. I version of the procedures and the called for the comments of the Home rights of this House. Not only that,. Minister and the Home Minister has most dangerous thing was that the said that the press report is wrojig and Prime Minister’s Secretariat became he has also produced another Paper all powerful and even started do-- which published the news. He has minating the Lok Sabha Secretariat. said that he had merely stated that Which questions should be accepted the Shah Commission has the power for discussion, which should be re- to issue a warrant. (Interruptions). jected and which questions should SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: ‘“ A war- carry incorrect replies— all this was rant will be issued by the Shah Com- decided in the Prime Minister’s Se- ri;?"5ion’ f 'e Home Minister Mr. cretariat. Since she had a two-thirds Charnn Singh )-;aid t'l^d.ay" Th,-.i is majority, the Speaker was always hss b.an reported. (Interrup- under the fear of being removed if tions) . he acted to hold the dignity and privileges of the House. The result MR. SPEAKER; As between the was that the sanctity of the House statement published in the Press and (Interrutpions) the people removed the statement of the Home Minister, I (Interruptions)” accept the statement of the Home Min- iser. That apart, this very news item The inference drawn by Shri Madhu has been published by another Paper Limaye may or may not be correct. and the version given in that other But I am of the opinion that these Paper is different. (Interruption). observations do not amount to a There will be no further recording breach of privilege either of the House in regard to this matter. or of the former Speaker. In this view, it is not necessary for me to»

•••Not recorded. of Privilege 319 Re. Questions D S Q P q ^ 7, 1877 220

[Mr. Speaker] of Emergency is a mater for courts to decide. decide the question whether a former Speaker has any privilege. Therefore, prime facie there is no Hence, the consent asked for under contempt of Parliament or breach of privilege of Parliament. Hence, the H ule 222 is not granted. notice given under rule 222 is not SHRI C. M. STEPHEN (Idukki): sustainable. Sir, this is a really sad day in the annuals of the Lok Sabha to say that I decline to give my consent to the a statement that the Speaker is func- same. tioning under the fear of being re- moved would not amount to a breach SHRI YASHWANTRAO CHAVAN of privilege. It is really laying down (Satara); Sir, I have got one point a very dangerous precedent. You are to make and that is we would like to now telling us that if I cay that you protest against this decision of yours. are functioning under fear of being What is happening in the Shah Com- removed by the .Tanata Party, it will m is .'ic n is q u it e contrary to the farts not amount to a breach of privilege. that you mentioned here. That is the precedent that you are laying down. We take note of this The antecedents and the incidejil.s and we will make use of this prece- are being examined there... dent. . (Interruptions). ruptions) We, therefore...... (Ir/temip- tions) It is completely elastic... (In- 12.15 lirs. terrupt io?w)

f i i ) A l l e g e d In q u i f y b y t h e S h a h C o m m i s s i o n a b o u t I ’ roclamation SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA o r E m e r g e n c y (Delhi Sadar): On a point of order, Sir. .. interruptions). MR. SPEAKER: Shri Vasant Sathe has given a notice of question o f pri- SHRI YASHWANTRAO CHAVAN: vilege against Shri J. C. Shah, Chair- I protest and we have decided to stage a lle - man, Commission of Inquiry for a walk out as a protest a g a in s t your ged inquiry regarding proclamation of ruling. emergency which was approved by Houses of Parliament. Shri Yeshwantro Chauan and some Shri J. C. Shah has made it clear other hon. Members then lejt the in his statement made on 5th Dec- House. ember, 1977 that he is not inquiring into the validity of the declaration of SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: I Emergnecy. He has further stated rise on a point of order. Rule 188 that he has no competence to do so. says: He has also stated that he is only in- quiring into the transactions which “No motion which seeks to raise had immediately preceded nnd led discussion on a matter pending be- to the declaration of Emergency. fore any statutory tribunal or sta- tutory authority performing any Whether a commission appointed un- judicial or quasi judicial functions der the CcHnmission of Inquiry Act or any commission or court of en- is competent to enter into the facts and quiry appointed to enquire into... circumatances or the transaction which immediately preceded and led to the MR. SPEAKER: What is it that you -declaratlcin of Emergency or the steps are making out? I have disallowed ^taken in pursuance of the declaration it. aai Re. QueatiOM AGRAHAYANA If, 18» (SAK A) o# iPn»ile»e 222

ged from the records. Anything against Mr. Shah should be expunged. ?rnti Pr m w^itTw^t ^ T’ftwrr (iii) Home Minister’s statement on WTT ^ ^ fn T T W f*P>T t , AIR AND T.V. ABOUT SABOTAflE C a s e s # ^ I I f^TTT^n:

^ ^nr MR. SPEAKER: Now about the no- tice of question of privilege given by t, ffr *rt ^ferr ^ tct Shri Vayalar Ravi against the Minister of Home Affairs, I do not think that ^ ' r ^TfgTT I qpTiifr T Kt, ^ any question of privilege arises in the ^ 5fW=t5nc ^ «ft, % 7T O t 1 ^JT 5T1^ present case. i also do not think that the broadcast made by the Home Ify^ ^ f^'r ^ q-rerr the nation with a view to warn the public about the existence of certain ^r ^'Tt ^rrBRTR ?r 1 stale of alTairs. He also wanted to ?TT~T I % ?rr?T ?T7'^^ f ? ?TR> inform the public of the various steps taken by !he Government. Early in- ^HfFT T’" ^T f^tTf'JT formation to the public in respct of the matters mentioned in the broadcast ^r»r, frr% ?t 5^ ^r st^ ^ was necFssnry and the same was in 1 public interest.

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA Under these circumstances, the con-

[Mr. Speako*] want to correct it. ‘The abuse of power immediately preceding the proclama^ Pratap Singh accords with those mes- tion of emergency’. These are the sages. A copy of the telex sent by the words. Chief Minister of Kerala to the Prime Minister had been sent to the Ministry SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; I have of Agriculture. In that copy there is no given notice for very important thing, specific request for aid. But Shri C. M. arising out of an assurance on the floor Stephen showed me his copy of the of the House. I have written to the telex. In that copy there is a specific Chairman and the Members of the As- request for aid. The last paragraphs of surance Committee. Kapadia Kohinoor the two telex messages are not identi- Mills have extracted more than Rs. 22 cal. They materially differ. No one is crores. in a position to explain how this con- tradiction came into existence. MR. SPEAKER: I do not know any- thing. Under these circumstances, I decline to give my consent under rule 222. SHRI JYOTIR MOY BOSU: I have got documentary evidence. Now an en- SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN (Can- quiry has been instituted by the Mini- nanore): Since nobody could convince stry of Finance. The Enquiry Commit- you, would you ask the Minister to tee has submitted a report to the Mini- present a photostat copy of the origi- stry of Finance. There it has been re- nal? vealed that two erstwhile Reserve Bank Governors and the former Mini- MR. SPEAKER: If you want I will ster of Banking are involved in cons- ask the Minister to place a photostat piring and they committed this big copy on the table of the House. fraud on the nationalised bank. We (Interruptions) could like the Government to lay on the table of the House the report that SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: They had has been submitted on the fraud com- coffee. mitted on the Central Bank of India by Kapadias, Reserve Bank Governors, MR. SPEAKER: They have a right to and the Banking Minister’s office. come, they are coming now. (Int^rr-.itpions) 12.24 hrs. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: I seek your indulgence. I ha.l mention- MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 ed ...... (i) Flouting of Safety RuiEg i n SHRI SAUGATA ROY (BarvE^k- CERTAIN Private Coal Mines of pore); The opposition is getlin:; no B i h a r protection. MR. SPEAKER: Probably, I must get protection from the Opposition now. if TTTT JPTTT " SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: tTTH TT^ 3rf=r fr sftr I am seeking your indulgence with re- gard to the reference to the terms of reference of the Shah Commission. The ^ if ^ words exactly used are...... ^ I MR. SPEAKER: I have seen that. TPT Tit'- SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MLSHRA: I have said about the circumstances. 1 % if 225 Matters under AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) Rule 377 226 Yesterday, one lakh of railwaymen Jr ^ assembled before the Parliament under ^ I 'd^STT the organisational leadership of the All Pt ^TMT 3TT I I SRT India Railwaymen’s Federation. ^ 5T?5T f sn: E5Ti-^ ^|lr ferr ?ft I recall, Sir, with a sense of pride that ^ft ^-Ti^ ^?fr |#S7TT some 20 years ago I was also connect- ed with the Railwaymen’s Federation. I I 5r grsfrn: wtt sirm' ?ftT All India Railwaymen’s Federation, its I ^T-T 197 3 if ^TTSFnT members in particular and the Rail- waymen in general, are much concern- % ^TH *11^ ^ WT ^WTvTT^^rvR' I ed about the activities of the anti-so ^ f ^ ? r »it «ff I ^#r»r cial and unscrupulous elements which 85 «ff sTTf^z: 3ft srr?$2r haved raised their ugly heads in caus- ing accidents, causing injuries to rail- ?reff ir ^ I I gsfiTT if way workers, killing innoncent passen- »fr t I ^ gers and railway workers etc. besides causmg heavy damage to railway pro- 5T? t % # ^r spr TT^ perty. This has appeared in their peti- t - ^ T IT ^ I 5f k 3?^^ tion. I again take this opportunity to ^ ^'rwT ’iTR I 37qr ^ offer my thanks to the leadership of the All India Railwaymen’s Federation I ?nn:qr^qT:7flf5n:^ if^>r?rT The Railwaymen, after the withdrawal jjfTr w r ?ftT ?r?ff % ^ cft^rr of emergency, did excellent work. They not only enabled the hon. Railway Mi- 'T^T^ff ^ qTT)-5rnrr eft w nister to place a surplus budget before W ^ q ’^TT ?tK ^ =^W'TraT^?ft «rfrT Parliament (with the profit of Rs. 45 crores), but, by their hard work, they ^ ft ^ 2^ 5Ft | i have enabled the Indian Railv/ays to ^ ifp: % ^'rf iT??Fr f ^ r ^ anticipate a profit of Rs. 80 crores in ^ 1 1 1 % 5rr«f'Tr % c fft the current year. But, unfortunately. Sir, we have not, as yet been able to ^ P f f ^ X T T ^ q jt ^TiTJftC\ ^'t^rrTrfaFmC\ fulfil many of the very basic need.3 w k gWT^Rt fn^Tfft % WiT*riT ^ o f these railwaymen. ^‘r ^■^rm i I again recall, with a sense of pride, «n ^fr ^ q-T tw? ^ 5rPT of the last railway men’s strike, which »t ^sT'THii'^ifrK % g’i'sr ^~tt Was imposed on the railwaymen. The strike has been led by our honoured t I ^f ^mr f>rr, common knowledge that the railway ^wn: ^TffT qr ft ^fsn workers work round the clock. It is ^ ( T — Jr^ z r r ^ t ' also common knowledge that railway ■w’orkers are industrial employees and are governed by the provisions of the 12.28 hrs. Industrial Disputes Act. They have very little in common with the civil servants. Yet they are bracketed with ( ii) G r i e v a n c e s o f R a i l w a v m e n the civil servant working in the Central Secretariat of the Government of India I will give an illustration. Take Group PROF. DILIP CHAKRAVARTY (Cal- D employees of the Railways such as cutta South): Thank you for your per- Khalassis, station porters, shunting mission to raise certain points, con- porters, safety porters, etc. Their cerning the problems of railwaymen. duties not only involve hazards and 3091 L .S .-8 . 227 Matters un<2er DECEMBER 7, 1977 Rule 377 228

[Prof. Dilip Chakravarty] country with the hope that Govern- technicalities but also risks of their ment will look into their gtievsinces own lives in addition to other difficul- and See that an expeditious remedy ties. They have been treatetd unfortu- is found out for ameliorating the nately at par with a peon of the Cent- grievances of the railwaymen. ral Secretariat. Although the railway- men are all industrial employees, they 12.32 hrs. have been denied parity in wages and (iii) Strike in Scindia Steam Navig.'s- bonus which the other industrial em- TiON Com pany ployees get in public sector undertak- ings. Discrimination is going on with regard to payment of bonus etc. uis-a- vis the employees in public under tak- ings. During last 30 years’ congress !r h misrule, th ey had to resort .strikes three times and on all the three occasions it if when the strike was withdrawn they 1 5 ^ t I # were assured that their grivances will be looked into. But nothing has been done. It is only the Janata Govern- ^ EJTR g i ment now which is looking into their ?T*ft irqdRft grievances rather sympathetically. They have pointed out that tne exis- if ting set up of the management was if ^ ^ created by the Britishers for their own w r r ^ f?=raT w , 5rf?T benefits. ?fnff ^ I ^ MR. SPEAKER; You are repeating only what is mentioned in the Petition. ^ qrff sFt TRT if ?nf— 26 ^ 27 1977 PROF. DILIP CHAKRAVARTY; No, Sir. I only wan to say that the rail- WnTjr ^ ffiwr ^ ?r»ff waymen would like to have a scientific iHTff TT fsRTif W «TT wage structure. {Interruptions). ?T*fr if SHRI C.K. CHANDRAPPAN (Cen- nanore) • Sir, I rise on a point of order. % 5TTR ^'TTff % (Interruptions) He is going on reading ^ I, ^ fnWTT W it. I , ft ^3TFn PROF. DILIP CHAKRAVARTY: I w r ^ qr =Errf|ir i am only placing the problems faced by the railwaymen. ftrfspn ?€fiT ^ SHRI C.M. STEPHEN (Idukki): Sir, I rise on a point of order. My point 3Tf;TiT?frs % of order is that under Rule 168, a vfi’

MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Stephen, you TPTJrir are under a misconception. I allowed him under Rule 377. E'ven under ^ q r srpTfT ftn r ^ i Rule 377, he should not go on making ^ «rr f«F ^ 3 ^ ^ f T + M r a speech. *TT, ^ TRfTTFTT PROF. DILIP CHAKRAVARTY: I ^ fsrUT

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?IJTT?S «TT, m IT’TfT *TT, ^ ^ I m K ^ ^ ^ tmr «fr %%T ^ ^ W r ^ 5f ^ ITTT « (^ tTJTo I , t ^ q r I % wrt if ift ^ 233 Payment df Bonus AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) (Amndt.) Bill 234

Ihe Ordinance. I shall not repeat what I said then but in order to pre- '9 serve continuity. I shall recapitulate ^ ^ ^^TTSRT n t I 5HR one or two points. I mentioned that along with other workers, Railways, Ordinance factories, P & T and CPWD cR^ aq«t^u ^ % ?rm should also be considered industrial S'T^ft, ITTT 3TR% f 1 workers and should be paid bonus. I also objected to the amendment under 9K ^r ^ W r W I ^ TT which section 34(3) had been deleted. Jf% tiJF sEetj % ^r Hi<-dT p n And the employees’ right for a rego- tiated settlement in excess of am- ^ I 5 ^ 5 T ^ % uRtr q r = ^ 1i % ounts calculated from the allocable fHwnr 1 51^ qr ift % ?tt«t surplus—that is gone. I also sought for the right of the employees and the pTT|,5|^?R 5>TT =ETrf^ «TTI warkers to ask for the accounts cf the ^ ^3?7^ «ft Company in case they were not sat- p5T% ^ f w 5TT isfied with the Balance Sheets that were provided by the Company. The point is that the Minister has done a very good thing by this re.storation ^ % ?rfy+ir

[Shri Saugata Roy] is submitted. This means, the whole a report that Bonus should be a de- scheme of things is being postponed ferred wage, it is necessary in this and the Commission on National context to review the whole Bonus Wage Policy is being given time so Act and to thoroughly overhaul it and that ultimately the right of the wor- give another term for Bonus. At kers is taken away. I want to ask , present there is Section 32 in the ori- the Mmister why was it necessary to ginal Act, which has not been, exclu- appoint a former bureaucrat, against ded by the present aonendment put whom a lot of allegations had been forward by the Minister. That Sec- made on the floor of this Parliament tion gives a large no. of organisations as the head of the Commission on Na- exemption from payment of bonus, tional Wage Policy. There are many like local bodies, corporations and mu- leaders, respected trade union leaders nicipalities and some corporations of in the Janata Party itself who can the Central Gtovernment. You will be head that Commission and who can surprised to hear that even workers look after the National Wage Policy. working under Building Contractors But the present goverrmients seems are excluded from the payment of to be interested in appointing as baius because of the existence of this heads of commissions only retired Section. I would request the Minis- bureaucrats against whom a lot of ter not only not to end with allegations have been made. Apart this patch work which he has from Mr. Bhoothalingam, the notori- * done in restoration of bonus but ous former Governor of West Ben- also to consider overhauling the Bonus gal, Shri Dharam Vira has been made Law so that the concept of deferred the Chairman of the Police Commis- wage to worker is introduced and in- sion. I do not understand the sweet- corporated in the whole scheme of ness of the Janata Party towards for- things and it becomes a basic right mer bureaucrats who have been of the workers. thoroughly discredited. I am fully As I said yesterday, inspite of the convinced about the Labour Minister’s restoration of bonus and inspite of good intentions. But he is under the atmosphere of relief that has per- great pressure. It was with great vaded the working class, a lurking difliculty that he got the new amend- fear is there that this bonus restorat- ment passed. Again the same pres- ion has been done only for this year sure is being brought on him to post- in order to fulfill some of the election pone the decision on bonus and to pledges of the Janata Party. As I take away the r ig h t s of the workers. said, now the Government has I can only say that the workers in . appointed a Commission with a for- the country are very restive today. I mer bureaucrat, Mr. Bhoothalingam have already brought it to the notice as the Chairman of the Commission of the Labour Minister that there on National Wage Policy. Our fear have been more strikes this year than and the fear of the working class is in any year preceding the cmergenry. that under the guise of this Commis- There is total industrial unrest in this sion, an attempt is being made to country, which is often taking violent take away the right of bonus from the form-; as in Ghaziabad, Kanpur and workers, which was originally given many other places. In West Bengal, to them after long struggle and after we were the pioneers of violent acti- the recommendation of the Bonus vities on the trade union front, but Commission. It has not been made it seems the people of Mahara.shlra and clear that what the national Wages other States have overtaken us. Commission is actually meant to do. These are the signs of danger whichj But, if I remember right, the Prime the Labour Minister must take note Minister had said recently that Rail- of. That is why a total review of the way Workers’ bonus can only be con- labour situation is called for. This sidered after the report of the Com- situation has arisen because the mission National Wage Policy Janata Party promised lot of things to 237 Payment of Bonus DECEMBER 7, 1977 (Arndt.) Bill 238

the industrial working class, but be- «ft ftr m 5 n w cause of different pressures, pushes and pulls, they are not able to fulfil those promises. That is why labour in this country is restive. I heard f f the Labour Minister’s speech restor- Tto €to % 5'f I ing the right of the workers to bonus. After saying that section 83 has been included again, he said there is still ^ ^ ^sTRtT rft clause 36 which applies and wih^ih ^ IT ^ ^ gives exemption to certain companies under certain situations from pay- ^ F^rqr IHTT «TT, ^ WTW f ^ ment of bonus. A few days later, all ^ it the big jute mill-owners met the West t, ?fk ^ ^ Bengal Chief Minister and sent repre- sentations to the Central Ministers f w ^JTRTT ^ ^ ^ il'- W -saying, “We are all sick. We cannot pay bonus”. There was a strike in Tfrf qr ^ ^ fVt i the jute mills and today 6 jute mills are lying closed. One of them be- longs to the Bird an d Co. who de- clared a lock out just to deprive the 5fT ^ ^ t ^ IT \ workers, the bonus due to them. fr i I Everybody appreciates the action ^ % gTR% fqr '5+Rd t , «fr |JT of the Labour Minister in restoring I I % bonus. But he should declare cate- j;orically that the government has no ?TT«T ^ ^ M tREX t , ^Tf?: intention of going back on the policy. irsr^'f % qer ir | i He sh o u ld categorically state what the x3^ >5^ 5TT^ ?TT*T policy of the government i.s about paying bonus to the railways, De- :3rr^ TTJjft I fence employees and P&T employees. He should also state whether the Bhoothalingam Committee has the qrf^'t c ij- ^ I, power to lake away the right of bonus from the worker.^.He shouldalso ^ I I w n : ^ ^ ^TFTT make clear what forum he proposes 5TIW, ^'T TR|Tf % ^>T^T T?: to tako resourse to discuss the in- dustrial unrest in the country. ^ ^ q f ^ I 16 qT ^ W I ; With these words, 1 support the Bill. “These surpluses should not be thrown away by way of indiscrimi- nate distribution of dividends and bonus and increasing the perks and amenities of the top people.”

if irft 5TCTSTT ^ 3)% ^TKftnff *rr I ^ ^ irirfqfNr, ^ I ftr?? FT ?HR «fV ^ ^ «(gd <;hii q r Tm 3n%TT, ?rt ^ ^ «r ^ ^ 5>rr i # ^ ^ «ft I ^ ^ ^ HN h W k ^ I, 239 Payment of Bonus AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) (Arndt.) Bill 240

^ ?ft ^ ’TK ^JT ^ qr^X 5*TTTt srnTT 'R ^ V K ^ ?T»TW f ® ^ I ^ ^r ?rr% % ?rf | i 1965 % f^% ^'ft®>RT t I mftiT^rmf #t^f?rrq^»TTefT|...... ^ % rfk qr SRTR 6 ^ ^ iT^t^nr I^TT 5Tf * r a ^ % OT«T a lw I ?rk 13. hrs. ^ ^ ^ ^T5TT I I <- ^IRi^ MR. SPEAKER: You can con- tinue after lunch, Mrs. Rangnekar.

?THt f ^r ^ w ?HF?rr ^ i fiTrf^ THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- ir aim 33 ^ TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA): How ^ ^?iTOT |?rr ^ I ^ I much time has been allotted, Sir? ftf> of^ f t i r ^ ^feJTcT % 5 4 MR. SPEAKER: Only 2 hours w n ^ I I have been allotted. «nr Ji? t f=F 33 ^ ^ ^;?rnT>T SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: When ^ ’ft, ?HR ^ 54 w m will the clause-by-clause be taken up? fttn- ^ |r?nTd % ^ eft 21 ^ ^ ^ ^trlT I MR. SPEAKER: After that, 2 hours were allotted for consideration. Out qrfTWT JTf ^ 1% J T ^ f of that, one hour was taken yester- 5Ft f ® ^ fir^T*TT I V < r ^ % ^ day. To-day also same time has been taken. Another 40-45 minutes will % ^ r JTHm ?tT ^ ^?| be available. f 0 ^ fjT^JTT I AN HON. MEMBER: Can you ira=^ ^ *TT>T ^ |TT extend it?

?t«( < rHT'KrC.i ^ ^ 5Tlf1'1 ^ MR. SPEAKER: No, there are a ^ ^ I ^ ^ it ^ number of other important Bill?. We now adjourn for lunch. 7HT ^^^ arrt^ t

^ t I ^ ?ftT ^'t W^ 13.01 hrs. * Wrf^TT?ft^?TT^ ^'1'tiH if ^s^HHHi ft^ ^ t !fk ^t^ %■ P=rtT The Lok Sabha adjourned, ior Lunch till Fourteen of the Clock. TT#? »ft ^Tr I I

?nft ^ ^ The Lok Sahha re-assembled after % •fN’ ^W9ITT!!F¥ % Lunch at five minutes past Fourteen ^ ^ I ^r of the Clock, fw W I ?PR ^rrr r^?ftiT7 ftilT, 5ft ^ n z ^ STFR TTfW T [Mr. Deputy-Speaker in the Chair]

I PAYMENT OF BONUS (AMEND- MENT) BILL—contd. JT? m TFT^ ^ I I >|ft Sfm 'RfiT9Fr =^rf^ ? iRfT «fto Tt»r^T : ^qr- ?r^ «rk »iTi^ gnr % ^ t ^>- 5JT5T l^^oiSTTf o^fto % ftn3[ ^ % f W t ^ n^fl^c ^r 3ft f q ^ ^ 241 Payment oj Bonus AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) (Arndt.) Bill 242 ' I , *rr 1 ^ = ^ I , 5SR5FR % ^ qft q>R if % w r ^ ^ «?T ft; ^ ?trY cTqr ^*t^ ^^?n!T q>t ^ 1 qi> ^t^qnTT firercft f?r % % Jift ^ ^T 5 ^ p3n> fti^irrlf sp> ^^F?tPT 5trTT I — fspTT w I 1 fk ^ m rro ^T?rrT I 5fft

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if 3t> 5 ® 5> ^ WTT 'SR^r 5FT 5TT% qT ^ ?ff ?r "'ZTKT ^ ?> ^ cRq> I , t ?rh JT^Tt ?i3r ?FT *lft^ f%?TRf *T?t f® I I f??TR q^ 5crf9qrn: ^rft | 1 ^ ?ft7: JRtg fr^Rli % ^ if ?T^ vtcEi’^T ^ =q?rr srim | 1 ^Ptf q ^ qft s r ^ ^ qft ^rr i f t | 1 ^1: ^3=^ t t sfiT JT^fTt ?rnr i T ^ t ?F> 3ft f i r ^ | ^ ?Fqf^- qi> q^T qrr sqfsjqrrr ?r^ f iiw ^ t 1 f%^n?T I I ifTT qr^T tt^ I fqr IT^ ^"t I, 3RlraK |, ^ qrr !Tfsrq?TT ^ f^rar »nn | 5ft ^ qft STJftJT ^ t qrt f^TvRT I « r r ^ ¥ q q r r ^ ^ i q?i ^r ^iTfqi qft ^ | qft I ^?T *T ^t qft ^ qjt ^«^qjT ^'tqr 1 !T k ^€rq^R I I ir^ ?r»Rr | 1 ^ ^ if fl^TfT q ^ qr?^ qft ^ JF>ftr5r ^ T ^ 1 ,»m?T 11 ’5rnr «rnr m r q i ^ I JTsr^rf qft I ^91 ^ ?ihV

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votes for their party. Actually, no f7i< ^ ^ srrwT § i trade union had demanded any in- ^ 3Tt PRT^t % 5TT^ ir crease in the rate of bonus; but it ^ t , ^ ^ IT R 5 t • suited them to enhance it for their party ends. ff T'fT’ T ^n'T f’BT % ^rfTTf ?T\T When this Ordinance was promulg- spT ^ ^ ir m # , ated, when this was before the House ^ ^ q r 5FTf »TTmT for disapproval from the Opposition and approval from the Treasury ^TWT t I ^ ?T Benches, the Members sitting opposite »Tf t , ’ TV ft^TT ^ t ^ T today did not voice their concern. On g" I the contrary, they tried to defend this draconian Bill which snatched away the right of the bonus, the concept of I n 9T55T % gW # I I the bonus. Not only that, they sup- ported it by saying that the industry SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEHTA would not be able bear the burden of (Bhavnagar): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, 8.33 per cent of the bonus, they oppos- I rise to support this Bill. At the ed it actually. I think they should outset, I congratulate the Labour thank the Labour Minister today for Minister for taking appropriate mea- providing them a good opportunity to sures to create pre-emergency condi- correct their misdoings and I hope tions and return the right of the they will support this Bill without workers in respect of bonus. finding faults with the present Govern- ment. The workers of this country had to stiuggle hard to achieve the right of There is a controversy going on the bonus as a deferred wage. But, as whether the losing units should pay you know, in the year 1975, in the the bonus. This is not a new thing. month of September, on one fine morn- I may mention here that in the year ing, when the workers got up they 195.'), the Textile Labour Association, found that their hard earned bonus, on behalf of the textile workers of the concept of bonus, had been snatcli- Ahmcdabad, entered into a voluntary ed away from them by the previous pact wherein it was agreed that the Go/ernment by stroke of the pen by industry w ill pay a minimunr.- bonus issuing an Ordinance on 2.'5lh Septem- of four per cent to the workers irres- ber, 1975. Now that was a bolt from pective of profit or loss, which means the blue to them and it was a boon to that the losing unifs will also pay a the capitalists. That Ordinance com- minimum bonus of four per cent on pletely changed the basic concept of ‘Set-ofl-set-on’ principle to their the bonus. The workers of this coun- workers. Can any one say that the try who had achieved that, after a long industrialists of Ahmedabad are not struggle, lost their right of bonus competent for running their business? overnight. Can any one say that they are not competent to protect their business It will not be out of place if I may interest? Can any one say that the mention that no trade union, either voluntary pact was entered into under the central organisation or the regional any coercion? No, Sir. It was ab- trade union, had asked for any en- solutely in the larger interest of in- hancement in the rate of the bonus dustrial peace that the textile work- from 4 per cent to 8 per cent. But ers of Ahmedabad, the TIA and the the Government had enhanced the industrialists entered into a volun- rate from 4 per cent to 8 per cent for tary pact for a minimum bonus of their party ends in order to fetch more four per cent, and that waa in res- 247 Payment oj Bonus DECEMBER 7, 1977 (Arndt.) Bill 248

[Shri Prasannbhai Mehta] increase and if the industry is not renovated properly and modernised pect 01 the losing units also. There- and if adequate reserves are not after, that was adopted by Bombay ploughed back. Therefore, I appeal and other industrial cities of the to the workers also to respond to the country. Ultimately it resulted into Government by way of increasing all enactment in the year 1965 with production and productivity. I have some modifications----- given notice of a few amendments. Of course, it was at a late hour, but I AN HON. MEMBER: Even long would request the Hon. Minister to before 1942 there was four per cent give d'le consideration to these amend- bonus in Kerala. ments.

SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEHTA: SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- Not in respect of losing units. NAN (Coimbatore): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, at the outset I would AN HON. MEMBER: Yes, in res- like to congratulate the Minister on pect of them also. bringing forward this piece of legis- lation though I must say it is rather SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEHTA: like the proverbial Curate’s egg ‘good Therefore, it is no good to say that in parts’. i cannot understand why the losing units cannot pay bonus. he has been so timid. It is a very Of course, this is a genuine contro- welcome gesture that 8.33 per cent versy, but it has been proved beyond now becomes statutorily the mini- doubt that it does not affect the in- mum bonus. Previously, year after dustry adversely if the losing units year we had raised it again and again are asked to pay bonus. and Ordinance after Ordinance had to be brought, but the statutory Now, the Labour Minister has tried bonus on the statute book continued to restore the pre-Emergency position. to be 4 per cent. Now we have this But there remains one thing to be guaranteed safeguards that the work- done. I would like to bring to the ing class will get this minimutr. of notice of the hon. Labour Minister 8.33 per cent. Every year the work- that a great injustice has been done ers have to argue, struggle, to suf- to the Lie workers. The previous fer, to compel the employers to pay Government brought a Bill in this higher wages and adequate bonus and House annulling the bilateral agree- this minimum bonus at least gives ment under which the LIC workers some safeguard: I do not say it does had got bonus, and all my friends far enough. But I cannot understand sitting on the Opposite now, suppor- the timidity of the Minister. He may ted this Draconian Bill annulling be a small man but, surely, he is the bilateral agreement entered i«to capable of standing up against the by the LIC and its employees. Thus, giant employers and removing the they had snatched away the bonus of ceiling on bonus? That is what was the LIC employees also. I would re- expected—that the ceiling o f 20 p^r quest the hon. Minister to give a cent would also be removed because new consideration to this problem this is what has agitated the working also. class for many years, and this removal of the ceiling would also be Now the Janata Government has in keeping with his own election ple- fulfilled its promise and restored the dges to the workers in the country pre-Emergency position. It is now and in his own constituency where lor the workers of this country to there is a large industrial complex—^ respond to this. 8.33 per cent bonus that bonus is a deferred wage. I will not go a long way, cannot be would like to say that bonus should stustained, if the production does not not have any pre-conditions except 249 Payment of Bonus AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) (Arndt.) Bill 25O

that a worket claiming bonus should workers went to jail for bonus and have worked in the factory during cases against these workers are still the year for which bonus has to be going on. Such cases as the Baroda calculated. Dynamite Case have been withdrawn, but the working class has not been I heard the Minister very carefully. given recognition for their putting up He lived into the past—which is a fight against the misuse of Emer- very important, because it is from the gency. past then we learn lessons for the present and for the future. But Yesterday the Railway workers when he talked about and about how this inalienable right demonstrated for bonus. (Prof. Cha- kravarty also spoke from the other of workers to bonus was curtailed half today though he did not speak during the Emergency, he forgot to yesterday). Bonus was one of the pay the tribute that is necessary to issues of the May 1974 strike. And, the workers of our country— because I would like to remind you that I our worke’-s have a revolutionary tradition. Of course, I do not blame went to jail at that time and my case still continues in the court. It Mr. Subramaniam Pwamy for not be- has not been withdrawn though the ing able to mention those instances because he was busy with his James Baroda Dynamite case has been with- drawn. Will the hon. Minister pay me Bond peregrinations abroad, and the my conveyance every week when I Minif^ter may not have seen them in gt) to Tis Hazari? Is this the way the Fress because it was a censored you have recognised the railway Press which did not give the news. workers and their strike? You talk But Ihe fact is that thousands and about the heroism. What about those lakhs of workers in Bonr.bay went on poor Northern Railway workers who strike for bonus on 15th October, 1976 day after day have to go to courts at a call given by the Girni Kam- and are not given leave with pay? Is gar Union. Similarly, workers of the this the way you champion the cause National Textile Corporation and of the railway worR?i*s? Please delva Mills in Bombay went on strike on deeper into the position what the the 20th October when Rs. 100 was working class is today, particularly announced &'.id they got this Rs. 100 the railway working class. increased to Rs. 200/-. So, give a credit where it is due at least, Mr. Minister. i am not asking you to go lurther than that. Why do you damn You can claim bouquets for your- the whole working class of this self for the Ordinance, but let me country by one word, saying they remind you that just preceding your were frightened when they were not Ordinance, which has all its defets, frightened? The working class fought there was the one-day strike through- back. They did whatever they could out Kerala and also the step taken by and succeeded in many cases. In the Kerala Government, who said: Chheharta in Amritsar the workers “We are giving bonus, whether your managed to get even from small con- Ordinance, which has all its defects, cerns as much as 14.5 per cent bonus by the working class.” As the United and in Coimbatore, after the Ordi- Front Government of Kerala stood by nance came, even from the big mono- the working class in 1975 and 1976. poly mills whidh pointed out that There is a history of b'onus; you can- they were earlier having a profit of not forget it. That is why, we say: Rs. 2 crores but suddenly went into Give bonus as a deferred wage, re- losses, the workers were able to wrest cognise that principle, fulfil your bonus. Apart from that, in January promi.se and do not betray the work- 3976 there was a large-scale Dharna ing class or try to bamboozle them throughout the country and 20,000 because the writing on the wall was 251 Paynent of Bonus DECEMBER 7, 1977 (Arndt.) Bill 252

[Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan] over and above what was there in the Bonus Ordinance during the there for those who perpetrated the Emergency. Smergency and the writing on the wall will be there for those who go •gainst the interest of the working class of a country like ours. ^ ^ W ^ TT There is another point and that is that you are giving another present a ra rt ^ % ?t t * t to the employers in the form of in- ^ ^ ^ f w 11 vestment allowance. You know, how year after year, the employers con- tinue to cook their accounts to bam- wnr qTT ^ w 1 1 ^ boozle the workers and that is why aft^ fft t we demanded the right to investigate and question the accounts and that 3ft w n ^ «TT, *r ^ right has not been given to the work- ers. It is no good only having your statutory minimum bonus, unless you ?TT w I ^ t qfT also have the pre-conditions to enable I the working class to get what is their due right as bonus. Apart from the minimum by examining the ac- : 5TTT 3rrr counts may be, they are able to get more. They should be irr T position to get more, but you shut those doors and you leave the employers’ profit 1965 WT sacrosanct. Then, you have people ^ ^ ^|rT ^ «rr I ^ ^ like Shri Subramaniam Swamy (who T T ^ ff ?r ^TrTT ^ ^ ^ is conveniently absent), he talks in cs f- ' CS terms of how the workers’ income is WRIT f I ^ g r r a r JTR- ^ ?TTTT going down, sheds crocodile tears, but rr.akes no reference to the fact that while profits g-o up, the share of tTie workers in cost of production has PTTT ^ t I 1 2 ^ ^ been steadily going down. That is 13 ^ not just what I say, the figures are those of the Reserve Bank of India; ^ I ^ ir ^ 5T^'T they have said that it has gone do\^n t I m ^ rft TTtT to 14.7 per cent. f I it Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, in this ^ w , 'mr w ?ftT ^ ^ Bill, we have given certain amend- HTPT ^ SETT ments and since you insist on ringing your bell more than once, we will TT ^ f?n I I ^ % speak when the amendments come, but I hope, the Minister being the ^ 'TT f w ^ 'TT reasonable man as he is, having the interest of the working class at his I inTT ^ qaPH- 1965 heart, as he does, will accept our ^ T?: amendments, particularly the amend- I ment to revalidate those agreements which were nullified during the Emer- q#cft ^ gency period, as a result of which 5r Tfir «i^«) % ^ even today, the workers are having some deductions which they were paid «rl |M‘T> ?1'RT '>!«( ^ 253 Pnymentt of Bonus AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) (Arndt.) Bill 254

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SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN (Can- SHRI C. M. STEPHEN (Idukki): nanore): You are the Chairrr.an of Mr. Deputy-Speaker, here is a Bill the Petitions Committee. A petition in respect of which I would say that on these lines is coming to your com- I support, and yet, I support not. mitee. I am reminded of the adage of the

= ^ 7 ^ I ^'T # ^ ^^THT 2. Whether the Bill restores the i I status-qcm prior to emergency? 3. Whether the Bill incorporates the ^r ^ ^ % ?TTt^ +<.<11 promises that the Janata Party friends, some of them at least have i 3ft I siq^ been giving to the Government em- ^ Wfm ?TT% UTFT if T # I ^ ployees, to Dep^tmental employees such as the Railways and P & T? f % ^rft?’ JFiR-Tr\ 3fin^ T|T^ t, ^ ^ * n i^ ?rr^ ^ To all these quesFions the answer 80 ^ 'TT t I 5 0-5 1 regretfully is a big ‘no’. it 1 5 2 ?»T3T 10 75 ?Tfr r ^ JT^ | ;j?|%7T % It was claimed as if something mo- mentous has happened as a result of ^ ^ I vft^cRTTT this Bill, I recall the message given by nt-cff ?fh: :37j% ^ the Prime Minister to the nation when it came out as an Ordinance, the PreSs I I qj^ % ^ Conference and the message given by t I >7^ I, JTTR ^ the Labour Minister when this Ordi- fT^T I ^ ?T?T^ n ^ nance came out in a tone which re- minds one of the messages to the na- ^ = T T ^ : tion when China attacked India or Pakistan attacked India—something rHF ?TT^ ?l# ^ 3rr^ I »ff ^rfelT so momentous. The claim was made that the Janata Party gave the CDS JTT^ t TRt ^ S ^ I^ETT 5>n I and now they are giving bonus. 257 Payment of Bonus AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) (Arndt.) Bill 258

Well, I do not have the time to when Shri Ravindra Varma and I go into the veracity of these eiaims. were in the same benches. He was The House knows what happened in the same party. In 1965 the Bonus about the CDS. The attempt was Ordinance came which gave a mini- made by the Government to get CDS mum of 4 per cent When my friend funded in the Provident Fund. Re- from the other side spoke of the dark sistance was put up from this side. days of the Congress rule, this is some- Division was pressed for and the Bill thing of an oesis, whereby tUi^'^ork- waa passed by the Janata Party Mem- ers could get 4 per cent of minimum bers. It was taken to the Rajya bonus in 1905. Sabha. There motfon was given op- posing the Ordinance. The result was After that, what happened was, a they could not press that measure certain section of the Act was struck there. Being so, they were compelled down. Labour conferences were hield, to pay the CDS'amount. But it pain- standing committees met. Again the ed me very much to head Shri Morar- Labour Ministers met in Delhi and ji Bhai of all people whonr., whatever the demand was raised by the Labour be my differences of opinion with him Ministers that the minimum bonus I should accept as an honest man, should be raised from 4 per cent to making a statement regarding CDS 8-1/3 per cent. It is not as if there contrary to this fact. Certain tall were '.lO demands from the labour claims were made about certain unions. Let me remind you that it is things. My hon. friend Shri Prasann not the position. There was a resolu- bhai Mehta was telling us about the tion of the INTUC which asked for an TLA- At that time it was an affiliate increase of the minimum bonus from 4 of the INTUC. Let me tell you this. per cent to 8-1/3 per cent. I hope that The concept of deferred wage does M r.s. Parvalhi Krishnan might he not start with 1955 only. It started able to give a jesolution from their long back. It started in my State side. The main point was this, Of Travancore, to' which my friend namely, the workers are not getting Shri Ravindra Varma belonged or a living wage; he does not have any- belongs. Both of us come from there. thing to fall back upon at the end A t that time Sir C. P. Ramaswamy •of the year. So, there must be some Iyer was the Diwan. Then a tripar- amount of money with them, to meet tite conference was held. A triper- the accumulated needs of the work- tite agreement was entered into ers. Therefore, the idea was, a part whereby it was agreed that wTiether of the wages must be deferred and it there was profit or less, e v e r y ind\is- must be given at the end of the year. trial establishment', irrespective of the The principle of deferred wage has to number of employees, irrespective of be accepted, subject to a minimum of its character, sh!ould be given four a certain percentage and beyond that, per cent bonus as a deferred wage. on the basis of the sharing of the pro- That was the set up in 1942. Follow- fits. This has been the demand of ing that there were many, many the workers. In 1971, after this, in judgements, which we were able to Bombay, ther^ was a discussion and get. Bonus has got its own history. then emerged the Khadilkar Formula. There are many cases of industrial A graded basis was arrived at hav- disputes, commission’s findings, ordi- ing 5 per cent, 6 per cent, 8 per cent nances, Acts, amendments, rulings and etc. Beyond that, this'Ts to be ~~on adjudications. It has got a long the basis of profit-sharing. That was history behind it. We know the for- the agreement which was evolved to niula, the appellate tribunal formula which INTUC was the sole signatory arrived at between RMMS and the and party and all the Central Trade mill-owners of Bombay. As the Unions welcome that, that after all, S- House will recollect, the Bonus Com- 1/3 per cent bonus was accepted. But misaion wag appointed at that time thi} ^ p lo y e e s repudiated that. We of 259 Payment o;f Bonus DECEMBER 7, 1977 Umdt.) Bill 260

(Shri C. M. Stephen) descipline, you will be voting in a particular pattern and we will be the INTUC therefore, went back on voting in a particular pattern. But that. And then the Bonus Comiris- there should be no misunderstanding sion was appointed. That Bonus about the basic stand of the Trade Commission gave an interim report Union Members, irrespective of the and, on the basis of that interim re- way we vote. port, in 1972, the first Ordinance was promulgated which gave for one year Nevertheless, we will judge you this 8-1/3 per cent bonus. and we will valu« you by your reac- tions to the trade union workers who will be having certain proposals that After that, year after year, this pro- are coming up. I am saying this only mulgation of ordinance was made. because when we were iu the Treasury MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; Mr. Ste- Benches, we put forward our point of view and demanded that this 8-1/3 phen, you should conclude now. per cent bonus business must become SHRI C. M. STEPHEN; i want a a permanent feature, Bu{, year after little more time. year, ordinances came. And this went on upto 1974. 1975 Ordinance could MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The tro- not come because, by that time, the uble is that we have only 2o more emergency came. minutes for discussion and the Speak- SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEHTA: I er has said that there should be no may remind him that we were press- extension of time. So, we will have ing to bring forward a Bill to that to adjust that. effect. But, it never came. SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: I do SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: All that not mind giving 8-1/3 per cent of happened. Nobody opposed it. What I my time to him! am saying that let us remember this. The emergency came; as a result of SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: Thank you. that, the customary ordinance of Let me now carry on. What I was granting 8-1/3 per cent bonus on an saying was this. This principle was annual basis did not emerge. As far accepted. Butr'sfill, the Bonus Com- as I am concerned, I remember, the mission had not decided; the Govern- Indian worker represented in the IN- ment had not decided as to whether TUC editorially conunented upon it; it must be a permanen^feature or not. the Working Committee demanded that; every trade union demanded it. Therefore, year after year, Ordi- This did not come. In September, rrnces became necessary. This Ordi- 1976 what we got was the Ordinance nance applied only for one year. that there would be no bonus unless Every time when' it came to this there was a surplus profit. ThTs came House, amendments were moved by here. I do not want to say much us, including myself, demanding that about what happened here. But, we it must become a permanent feature. managed to get certain of the provi- But you understand one thing that in sions amended; we managed to get it every party, every member need not amended that this provision shall not follow the same party line and need apply to the industrial work ers who not share it. This is one of the diff- are drawing a minimum wage. For- erences of opinion and i am very merely it did apply to all the mini- clear in my mind by looking at Mr. mum wage workers as well. I moved Ugrasen and other friends sitting over an amendment and I got the Govern- there that where there are large areas, ment to accept that amendment so of agreement, there emotionallj^' and that the workers drawing the mini- intellectually, we will all travel to- mum wage, irrespective of the profit gether. Nevertheless, under party or loss, get the minimum bonus. That 26i PaywUhfol BonUs AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) (Arndt.) Bill 262

provision We were able to preserve implement the decision taken by the and that money was paid. OriginsUly, Cabinet on Monday, It was at this the law was that it must be refunded. stage that we went to polls and the We were able to get back that money. Government has now come. Now, I So, with respect to whatever agree- am putting the question to the hon. n'.ent there was, whatever money Minister are we prepared to go at there was paid must be preserved and least to this extent? Are we prepared that must not be encroached upon. to ensure that the examination of Beyond that, we were not able to accounts be ensured to the workers get what we wanted. This struggle rather than keeping the audited posi- went on after that. I am now claim- tion completely and workers being ing one thing that it is not as if the shut out of it? What has happened matter was left at that The trade today? unions raised their voice and went ahead with it. As we were part of My friend, Shrjmati Parvathi Government, we moved the Prime Krishnan, has said thaT'S^T73 per cent Minister and we remained on deputa- has been restored. Let me correct it. tion and the result was that we were It is not restored. 8-1/3 per cent has able to get the notification of the been restored for one year beginning Government brought out towards the from any day, from 1976-77. The res- end of 1976. That notification was toration is for one year. Well, the brought by Mr. Raghunatha Reddy worker was a casuality with respect to and he conceded certain fundamental 1974-75, to 1975-76. The bonus was things. The question; whether this struck down. But have you restored Bill will go up to that extent at least the status QV-o ante as you claim? or not. That notification said that Then you must give the benefit of there is no surplus profit or if there 8-1/3 per cent for the period 74-75, IS no available surplus in net profit, 75-76, 76-77 and for succeeding ac- even if it is one paise, then Rs. 100 counting years. Otherwise, you are minimum will be given. But with not restoring the status quo ante. respect to the other 4 per cent bonus Therefore, it is only for one year. It business, this will continue. The is not a permanent legislation. The workers will have the right to exa- other period is left m vacuum. The mine the accounts, even the audited forward area is put in vacuum. No- accounts. This is what is stated. This thing is done about it. There was no- is a major change. It ig stated that thing in the previous bill as such that the Tribunal will have the right an agreement must have the prior to reopen the accounts, even the consent ol the Government. You audited accounts. The Tribunals will have now incorporated a new provi- have the right to challenge any sion “any formula outside the Bonus expenditure made in the account. The Act formula will requfre the appro- tribunals will have the right to ap- val of the Government”. You now point a fresh auditor to go into the stipulate for restoring the status quo accounts which the worker is chal- ante that after I sign an agreement I lenging. The Trade Unicus appearing must come to the Government for before the tribunal will have the sanction if the workers has to get that right to get the accounts and to exa- amount. For an agreement there was mine those accounts. These" points no ceiling formula. You are now put- were also conceded. Then, as far as ting ceiling even in the case of agree- productivity bonus is concerned, it ment that you are arriving at With was agreed that the ceiling would be respect to other things, you are not given away. The productivity bonus giving it at all will be in force and the ceiling will be given away. For this the Now, you are keeping the Section Government has said that necessary 32. I have moved an amendment to- legislative changes will follow to day that Section "32 which excludes 26j Payment of Bonus DECEMBER 7, 1977 U m d tlS O t i 264

[Shri C. M.Stephen] right the wrongs and irregularities and illegalities. This Bill is beating uenain sections of our workers name- about the bush. What all was done ly, the railway workers, Post and by the Congress Govwnment is re- Telegraph workers, all those workers peated by the Janata government. and departmental workers, with res- What is the new thing? What is the pect to them, with' reject to the fundamental change you have intro- micimum bonus at Section 32 duced in this Bill for the upUft and shall not apply. The minmium bonus welfare of the workers? There is no- must have to be paid to these peo- thing new nothing beneficial to the ple. These are the amendments I working community That is why I have moved. Therefore, I would only say old wine, rotten wine in rotten say that this is a Bill which, 1 would bottle, in fact broken bottle I think say, 1 support and that I support not restrospective effect should be given because this is a camouflage you just to this provision. Prior to Emergency made a commitment. You want to the benefit of 8.33 per cent was there; make an appearance of satisfying the in times of emergency it was scrap- commitment. You have failed in ped in the interest of capitalists and making even that appearance and monopolists. Therefore, there was workers are not idiots who cannot heavy loss for the working class dur- understand the gravity of the situa- ing the emergency. If they were tion. They will understand what has really interested in the working class been done and what has not been they should have given restrospective done and I say this, Sir, that you effect from the time of the declara- stand charged at the bar of the work- tion of the emergency. It has not ing people for committing an act of been by this Bill. No compensation deceit and with respect to that I con- was given to the working class who demn the Bill to that extent. It has had lost heavily because of the stop- gone half-heartedly and lor half- page of bonus. hearted concession I do not thank you. Your own character does not permit Now, you are introducing a ceiling you to go along. At least do what of 20 per cent on payment of bonus. the notification permitted you to do; This ceiling is dangerous. My sug- that is the request that I make in gestion on behalf of the All India conclusion. Anna DMk is that there should not be any ceiling for bonus, 20 or 25 1 5 .0 0 hrs. per cent. This is because a ceiling on the bonus is a ceiling on the pro- SHRI K. MAYATHEVAR (Dindi- ductivity itself. It is a ceiling on the gul): Sir, I welcome this Bill on cer- productive capacity, competency and tain conditions and reservations. The the ability of the working class. objective of the Bill is stated to be Therefore it is not a stimulus or en- to correct the mischief committed by couragement to the working class My the then Congress Government dur- suggestion is, there should not be ing the time of the Emergency. It any limitation or ceiling or bar for does hot deliver any new goods for bonus. the uplift of the working class. There- fore I want to say that this Bill The working class is entitled to get amounts to putting old wine into old more and more bonus in proportion b ottle.. . . (interruptions) It is not a to the enhancement and increase in new bottle; in fact it is rotten wine production. As students of economics being put in a rotten bottle. know fully well, if you produce more, the prices will come down, you What are the promises that you can promote your international trade. have given to the people at the time You can reduce the price level with- of elections. You have stated that in the country also. Another point if you were voted to power you would is, you can get more and more foreign 265 Payment of Bonus AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) (Amdt.) Bill 266

exchange by that There will not be Parliament in the matter of LIC. It a scarcity of foreign exchange. There- does not speak any thing of it. Sir, fore, to contain inflation inside the it also reveals unerringly the slide country, I suggest that this Govern- back of the Janata Government in the " rr.ent should scrap and take away matter of electoral p'romises, part.cul- - the ceiling imposed for bonus i.e, arly in relation to the concept that maximum of 20 per cent and it should bonus is a deferred wage. Sir,.t 'a.so be made in proportion to the increase the question of giving retro.pecdve in production. You must make it as effect in the matter of bonus c aim unlimited bonus to which the work- of the workers from the year .974. ing class is entitled to. It will be a It also clings to the time-worn •..•..n- very good stimulus and encourage- cept that in India, inflation 1S ihe ment to the working class in India. result of wage-push and not eo .." ';0. lt also tries to pigeon-hole the "asic As my sister, Shrimati Parvathi question of bonus by appointing he Krishnan pointed out correctly, when Bhoothalingam Committee wh.c.i has you were in opposition before 1977 been properly named as a ghost ur.m Elections, Mr. Fernandes and so many the working class. This comrn .tee other Ministers including Prof. Madhu is a subtle device to pigeon-ho C .r.rd --" Dandavate were making a hue and shelve the entire question of Dc"u'i as cry in this hon. House demanding the rightful claim and ina.ie.ia .Ie higher and higher bonus J>ayment to right of the working class of the iRailway Workers. What are you country. Sir, I have only cata 0 ued doing now? You are withholding all the weaknesses of the Bill brought your talks and promises which you forward by the minister, Since you have made. You simply say now, we have rung the bell, it has prevented were talking when we were in Op- me from saying something go~ ~ position and now we have dropped all the Bill and that is his ill luck! those things because we have '.lOW shifted to the treasury bench. There P..tT ~~ ~ (

SHRI CHITTA BASU (Barasat) : ~-+fr~fll~'hr.,~ 1'IFf.,T1:f ~~ ~ Sir, I rise to support this mu subject Cfi~r f'fi crf;:m If'i1-~T

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^fTFTT ^ »rnr 5% ^ # ^FT^T ^T^cTT ^ q-4> W ^l^- % »ft?ft '^ r ^ , 5T T f ?TK*fV W(\ % ^ I f3T*r'ir I t % ^ ^?T»T itj? 9PT ^ %5r7 ir^TfT p rr i 'I'lfiti ■ferr ^ f^ q r 12 W3IT7: TTr> ^ri'TTft- irar 11 fir5r-iTr%^rf ^ crcr ^ \ TTsr^Tt % ?nr^ f^q-TTqr irrjrr ^ ^JfTrqr V(\x ?Tr’T Wt ir sft^TO f e m ^TTcfT STT?ft f I jrrr f n - ^ | 5tpt ir ^ 51^ f i r ^ % 1 WPT I . fTT f;T ?TR^ *r ^ ^T snmr 1 t THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- » ft ?rra^ ^= ^ T | m f 1% t^ r TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA): Mr. q i1 ^ % ^ Jr 5ftsr f^-^q- f w srrq, Deputy Speaker, Sir, first of all I ? n f^ «rTiT^ it 3fT ?r?TTf-^ t , would like to thank the hon. Mem- IX ^ ^ I bers who have taken part in the de- bate on this Bill. As the House has noticed, there has been a general wel- %n 5r^f% ?rm ? jf^'t come for the main provisions in this g:m f^ ^ ?nmH ^

7 ,/ 2 ; 7 7 been much Jb^tter if it had incorpor;ir it- Sir, ftie main criticisms against ed provisions on certain other mat- the Bill related ^o the coverage of the ters which are agitating the minds of Bill, the concept of bonus, the period the hon. Members as well as workers for which the 8.33 per cent bonus was outside this House. being reinstated, the right of worKers to negotiate agreements and formulae ether than the minimum bonus for- At the very outset I made it clear mula of 8.33 per cent. There was that the intention of the Government also a demand for an increase in the in promulgating the Ordinance which quantum of the bonus, to whicn my this Bill still seeks to validate was hon. friend Shri Ugra Sen on this siae to deal with an emergent situation referred apart from the right of the which did not brook any delay. The workers—or the desirability of the Government did not think that it workers’ right—to scrutinize the profit should use the opportunity to put and loss accounts of companies, and before the country or this House its the entries in regard to profit firm and final thoughts on all matters and loss accounts. There was aiso which are relevant to the subject of a reference to the question of invest- bonus. ment allowance and the provision in this Bill regarding it. I shall try to Sir, many hon. Members were kind deal with these major matters, as enough to say good things of me briefly as possible, within the time at personally—I am very thankful to my disposal today. them—although I am aware of the fact that there was some mixing of metaphors of which I On the question of the concept—if I was a victim. A very distinguished may be permitted to speak about it— hon. Member accused me of timidiiy, I must say that an attempt was made of being a small man whereas another from the other side, particularly to distinguished hon. Member said that ask us what our concept of the bonus the mountain was in labour and it was. I do not want to begin by say- produced a mouse. I do not claim to ing that perhaps it does not lie in the be a mountain, nor do I deny that I mouth of some people to pose this am perhaps a small man, but I must question. I do not want to begin by say that it is rather uncharitable on saying this. Nevertheless, I would the part of a lady to accuse one of like to point out to this House, and timidity because it can often be very to remind some of my hon. friends— difficult to answer a charge of timidi- whose memory might have been af- ty from a lady. fected by the many things that have happened and by passage from this SHRI VASANT SATHE: You side to that—that the then Govern- know that ladies are most afraid of ment amended the very title of the mouse. Bonus Act. The title was changed from “An Act to provide for the pay- SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: I am ment of bonus to persons employed not surprised that the hon. Member. in certain establishments and for Mr. Sathe speaks for all kinds of matters connected therewith,” to “c'.i constituencies including that of mice^y Act to provide for the payment of bonus to persons employed in certain establishments on the basis of profits, SHRI VASANT SATHE: You know •r On the basis of production or pro- ladies react to a mouse. ductivity and for matters connected th erew ith ....’’ This is a clear and SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: I do categorical throwing out of the con- not want to cross words with you on cept of bonus as a deferred wage. It your experience with ladies and mice. is clear that the Act dealt only with 271 Payment of Bonus DECEMBER 7, 1977 (Arndt.) Bill 272

vShri Ravindra Varma) Because bonus was no longer a deferred wage; you will have to get bonus linked with productivity and bonus. Therefore, this idea of throw- profit. After having voted for that— ing out the concept of bonus as defer- of course one can certainly have se- red wage provides an incentive to the cond thoughts; and I don’t grudge that workers to demonstrate their ingenui- nght to anybody—if one asks me ty in other ways by which they could question: “ What about, the concept secure the bonus by working harder. o t bonus as a deferred wage?” I do not know what to say. SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: “Working harder"’ is not what I said. I entirely agree with my friend—1 have been a great admirer of his right SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: Those from my childhood, I still remain one. are my words. 1 would have liked to hear more from him He can make the impos- SHRI C. M. STEPHEN; Do not read sible look possible, the illogical look what is not there. logical, and he can sometimes sound unapologitic, about something for SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: I will which his consciyace is biting him all not do it. This is about him. But the time. That is the greatness of the that does not answer the question art of oratory as practised by my dis- about our case, and I am quite con- tinguised friend, Mr. Stephen. scious of it.

My friend Shri Stephen treated the As Shri Stephen has said, and other House to one of these exhibitions hon. Members from this side of the of oratory when the Bill was before House have said, the Janata Party’s the House in 1976. I have studied manifesto makes a clear reference to what he had to say then; and I put bonus as a deferred wage. It cannot be much store by what he said. Perhaps erased. But I would also like to refer he himself does not. At that time he to the fact that this is not the only very clearly raised this question. He sentence in the manifesto. Any sen- said: tence has to be understood k\ the con- text in which that sentence is put, ‘ The Government says that the down. There are three ideas in the bonus is not a deferred wage. But manifesto. One is about deferred wage it is profit-sharing, or productivity bonus being a deferred wage. Tne sharing. These two principles have second is the need to have an integra- been spelt out. I welcome this Bill ted w'ages-income-prices poiicy. in cv,e respect.” viz., with the con- The third is the need to see that a cept of bonus as it was cleared surplus is generated and, while generat- up. ing a surplus, to ensure that th*, What has been cleared up? Bonus workers receive their legitimate snare as a deferred wage, or bonus as link- of the benefits of increased produc- ed to profit? He did not stop there; tion and productivity. I am quoting He want on to say.. (Interruptions) from memory, not the exact words. He can be very emotional; and he can Therefore, the concept of bonus has be very prolific with his language. I to be understood in the context of admire it—once again. He went on to these three main points that I have say that this opened a new chapter m mentioned. industrial relations in this country. He also said that this new formula, The next question that came up this new idea actually posed a chal- was about the coverage of the Bill. I lenge to the working classes, provid- did not say at any stage, the Govern- ed a great opportunity. A great op- ment did not say at any stage, that portunity for what? To demonstrate this Bill sought to extend the cover- their ingenuity. age of the Bonus Act as it existed. 273 P aym ent of Bonus AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) (Arndt.) B ill 274 U.P. (M) I No. What We have claimed is that we the States, used or invoked this are restoring the coverage that exist- amendment to extend the coverage to ed, and I do not think any hon. Mem- establishments below 20 but «ot below ber has said that we have not done ten. Why? Because the extension of so, that we have not restored the this coverage as something to do with coverage as it existed. Now, if you the economic viability of undertakings say that the coverage is inadequate, of industries, and therefore the eco- it is a different matter. My hon. fri- nomic progress of the country. end, Shri Chitta Basu has always said so, and if I mistake not, if my me- mory does not fail me, it is actually I will take another 15 minutes. Can his Bill in the other House that pro- I continue? voked the not so easily provocable Shii Khadilkar to s.ay something MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If you which went to the benefit of the wor- like to continue tomorrow, you may kers. d o BO.

Therefore, as far as the question of SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA; I am coverage is concerned, there has al- in the hands of the House and the ways been a demand iu this country, Chair. and in this House, that the coverage must be extended to cover the rail- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: He may u-ays, the P&T, all Government emp- continue next time. loyees; in fact, it is the same thing as saying that the restrictions and In- hibitions put down in section 32 should be removed. One of the effects of re- moving section 32 from the Act 15.31 hrs. would be to take away the list of undertakings to which the Act does MOTION RE. STEPS FOR REMO- not apply. The result is that you ex- VAL OF ECONOMIC BACKWARD- tend the coverage to all wage earners NESS OF FOUR DISTRICTS OF a concept that one of the amendments EASTERN UTTAR PRADESH seeks to introduce.

SHRI YADVENDRA DUTT (Jaun- On this question, I would like to pur); I beg to move: say in all humility, as my hon. friends have pointed out, in spite of the fact “That this House regrets that the that this demand has been there for Government have not so far imple- many years, the -Government in the mented the recommendations of the past did not find it possible imme- Joint Study Team set up in 1962 by diately to accept the demand. You the Planning Commission and the do not deny this, I am sure. On the Government of Uttar Pradesh (Patel other hand, I might remind my hon. Commission) regarding the steps to friend, Shri Stepen, that in 1975 if I be taken for the removal of the am not mistaken, there was an economic backwardness of four dis- amendment which empowered the tricts of Eastern Uttar Pradesh.” appropriate governments to extend the coverage of the Act to establish- ] 6 w ments with less than 20 but not less than ten employees. What has been the result? Unfortunately for all of % «rr^ ^rrsr ^ ^ us, the fact is that the apprepriate 5TTO fit I I Governments have not, in most of

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^fcTT ^ I ?ft HT^TRT- 5TRt t I ^ qii^ ^ ^ I IT^ ^frr ^ f^ R T ft, ^ 3 ^ ^ WTtT l-Prcparation of a long-term perspective programme ^ ^ ^ I 5 based on local resources endowed in ^ ^ I ^ jmr the region and needs of the local *nifT I I people. ^ frrT^J‘ % ITWrft? ^ 40 Mf^VId ?T»1T ?rrT srRTWm’ 5TR- ir ^ ?ft I «TtT ^ ^ ^nrt 5fh: ^ in^zr^r^ ^?ft f % fjHT^ ^ ^TT*T ^ ^ =fTT^ %■ f^iTT ^ I I Jr ^ ^ftift ^ ^>tt ^'t qr ^ t ? qf ^ f m ^ ?ft?T ^ r . 5TTT JTferrg ^ ^ ^ I fTT % Sr rft w ft 5^tt 1 1 f ¥ JTW, I xr^ f^iT ^ r frmpr % ^ ^ f I ?rk # IT^ it f^ R T ^jftq % q'fWt rw ^rr^ ir ^tn i irrrf...... ^ I ...... («yc»MH)....

' STSTTiT Hsft («T^ *T>TlT3ft k m f) : I, «tt?T ^ ^ ? |pl( 3ffr#fir 1 t I 16 ^ % ^rr^ fR" ^Rft sfTT ?T5rqT 5TPTT | ? fk ^ >sfy ^ ; ^TT !Tft I f¥ I ^3^"t W7T ^ w m t I f >T ^ ^ f y I WfWtT JTm?TT ^.- ^ 7T iTTT % STT^JTT Our demands are for trade, not for I ftr ^ I aid. ?t r 9zt^ ^'t t, ^ f , 5ft ?fT^ HPT q'pft I ^ ^ ^ ^rt^ ;ft^ t c jT R T ^ r ftsrf?f t fV '»in«<0 sricft I, ?rrerTT ?> T 1 f»nft ?fr?r?r^^?r f^rsrfjT ^ ^ qflft t ^"t HTTT ^ r I ? ?rr5r q-^'r ^ | 1 fciTEir % q-jiT qr t, q ^ % qr^t ?nR?rr^ ^ ^Tfrr sr^ ir’rr«TfTi;?PT sfTT JTft T? ^RTT ^ !Rn: ^ 3rRTT t eft fm rr sfrrjT it «ft ?rraT t 1 ^rnr^ 1 ^ 5>it; WTT 3ft ^T?T5t t, ^l>- TT»T5T f® W h<+k i- w riT ^ ftJTf, f® 5 ^ ^ w i t «5fT^ ^ 5 F T ^ it *ft^ sTTirft^ ?R+rOi' % JTTTT^ ^ f>ir ?rh: ^ q r^ ^RTTI ^ft^ JQ[ ^ ^Nr? »nE3TJT ^ ^ 1 sm r ?fj«T- I, it STTET ^ 2TT f^T%9FT Tfr, ?fr ^if fw^TRT ^ ft^ I ^ I, 3ft q'Fft sq'^ ^ f^rrcrr ^t q^?ft ?TTW+di I ^jrfn^viH ^r 1 t Tt^ t I ^ff fit = ^ r r f^ ^ 7 ^ ^ ^ !qr>5nT »ft =5rrff^ f7T?> ?rrw+Ffi I sfh: ?rnT ^ »ft =3rrffit 1 ffff.JT ^ I ^"f ^ 16 hrs. JT9T^ t, 31^ 5^ W ^ ^ffr sr^f^rT|| W *t T # ft«r% ^ |, ^rrsr 287 ior Develop- D|:CEMBEiR 7, 1977 ments of Eastern 288 UJ*. (M) ?ft ^ ^ft I I ^*ft *rr^

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fjTf’^-?rr^-iT#Tr?^ % ?r-?Tn?r ?t r t ’“That this House regrets that the Government have not so far imple- =50%% I gi?, qTTt H%r- mented the recommendations of the ^ qr iTT^ # t' I Joint Study Team set up in 1962 by the Planning Commission and the sT5?f % m«r Government of Uttar Pradesh (Patel ?.— ^ m ?Tr wrr Commission) regarding the steps to be taken for the removal of the ^ JT ?FT^ ’TiTT ?m; ??TT^ ITF economic backwardness of four dis- f ^ I tt^ t ?Tjfr »fV WT?;?n- tricts of Eastern Uttar Pradesh.” ^— 3ft ?TTTd I, ^ SHRI BRIJ BHUSHAN TIWARI ? R - T spr t ? T T ^ JTf? ?rnT (Khalilabad): I beg to move: fft £r WTsrprt it iTf: -iTnT ^ That in the motion,— q qsT fTT ^frr^V m ft add at the aid— t T ^ srrcfl- t — “and directs the Government to submit its schemes to the House ferarrm ^rsfr, within three months to implement ?T‘T?fi' «r «t»T=ft')TT^, the recommendations of the said Joint Study Team.” (1) T0-f ^VT\■ Rr?rr?T ? ? ’TTrT ^n'lsft r ' SHRI RAM DHARI SHASTRI (Pad- rauva): I beg to move: ■3H JT^ifTTT % 3T'7 ^ That in the motion,— ?rr«T f ^ r |, ^rnrspt ^r add at the end— srrqf?^=r ^>tt ?fk srFrft^T f r “and further regrets that 15 iT^T fV irnt t f«P tTTrftfa: 1200 years have passed but nothing has ^T 12 r •> % f q w % been done so far and therefore f-TT ^ i fcrtj. directs the Government that a special authority be ci-eated for ?r^Tfe'Y ^5TriT flfk JTrnnr the purpose before March 31, % 5^3 ^TsrtfftoT f ^ ^ ? T 1978.” (2) 3091 LS— 10 291 Steps for Develop- DECEMBER 7. 1977 ments of Eastern 29a UP. (M)

SHRI UGRASEN (Deoria): I beg to They are backward. If the rain is move: delayed, if the monsoon does not set in in time, people suffer a great deal. I That in the motion,— know people who have migrated from there to various parts of India. There add at the end— are some who have migrated to vari- ous parts of the world. Even people “and calls upon the Govern- living in. Surinam, Dutch Guiana and ment to ensure that sufficient so On trace their origin to eastern fimds are provided by the Cent- districts of UP and western districts ral as well as State Government of Bihar. They are very lovable so that the recommendations of people. They are very loyal people. the Patel Commission are imple- They are very patriotic people. In mented within two years.” (3) fact, one of the persons who went to SHRI M. V. KRISHNAPPA (Chi- Dutch Guiana about 25 years ago kballapur): I visited the Eastern Dis- became a Minister there, one Mr. Misra by name. I went to receive tricts of U.P. 25 years ago when it him at Palam Airport. He became was reported iu this House that people the Minister in the country, now were starving and dying in the month called Surinam. As soon as he landed of September. It was the first visit at the airport, he left the place, went of mine, after my appointment as ahead and took the sacred earth and Deputy Minister of Food and Agricul- put it on his head. He told me that ture, along with our leader Shri Rafi he had come here for the first time Ahmed Kidwai. We flew from Cal- in his life. He told me that it was cutta and landed at Ghasia. Those his sacred duty to bow to niother four districts are really very backward earth. He put the sacred mother earth districts. Not only in U.P., all over on the head of hi.s wife also. They the country there are certain pocket are such lovable people, who still love — chronically deficient areas— Failure the country. They should not be left of rains, over-population and various in the lurch, th ey should not be al- other backwardnesses of the area are lowed to face various kinds of diffi- responsible for this Various Commis- culties. There are people v;ho work sions, Ministries and Planning Com- as casual labourers, as riskshaw- mission have given thought to it and pullers and so on. They are doing they have planned certain schemes. various kinds of jobs. Especially in the Eastern districts, These parts of our country require they seem to have made no mark at all. reorganisation, reorganisation in the UP has the richest soil in the country sense that we develop the area further, It has got the two great sacred ri- we put in more agro-based economic vers of India, Ganga and Yamuna. It industries and so on. We should has given us our Prime Ministers provide them with more and more of after the freedom of the country. And irrigation facilities. What is neces- yet it is most unfortunate that this sary is that there should be, migration State should remain one of the back- in view of the increase of population ward States in the country. The and the land. Government must people of the State remain poor. Pro- move these people where we create bably that might be one of the rea- big projects. Take Tungabadhra pro- sons why Mr. Jayaprakash Narayan ject for instance. We had to spend wanted to divide some of the bigger Rs. 250 to Rs. 300 crores. It took its States into smaller ones so that more 15 to 20 years. There were difficul- of attention could be paid to the va- ties encountered because the people rious parts of the backward areas. of the area did not know methods of There are places Kke Deoria, Bast! irrigation. People from other areas and Gorakhpur and various other could have been moved by planned parts which we visited at that time. governmental action. More people 293 S^«PS 1 Develop- AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) ments oj Eastern 294 t UJ>. (M) would have ofiEered to go in there if populated areas where resources are colonies were created and land given limited, to such places where huge to them. They would have developed projects are created and huge amounts the area very quickly. That should are spent. have been done rather than leaving the area lor natural development. In With these words, I sympathise with respect of such areas where we want Shri Dutt for the (fevelopment of to create irrigation potential, where eastern districts in.i U.P. I feel that a we want to put in big projects, instead lot has to be done for the development oi leaving this to natural development, of the eastern districts of U. P. Governmental planned action should be taken to move i>eople from our densely populated regions. Jf you it move them in thousands they will go ihere. I have seen this that indivi- duals may not like to go, but if you t t : I I move them in thousands, if you move them with all their relatives and kith and kin, they would like lo go there, 16.17 hrs. because they want to live with Iheir own relatives etc. So, what 1 leel is [Shri D. N. Tiwary in the Chair], that the Government itself should have prepared a plan to remove these s r ^ % f3T^ % ii populations to the places where we ^ et-JT ^ ft srrjft | are building huge, big, irrigation pro- jects. There the land has to be developed. We spend Rs. lOo crores % ^qT I I ^ ffT but it takes 20 to 25 years to bring all ^3rn: it ?ft7 the targeted area under irrigation and in all these twenty years, the 'S'JiNi'? Isql'Ji'ilr % 12 whole money which we have invested t wjnriT ^ is going to be a waste. Instead of allowing for a natural development to q.€l’ 11 take place for the irrigation potenii.jl. ^ vft it is better we move people from these thickly populated areas where the land resources are limited, where water fiFff ^ t I resources are limited and where, in spite of Government’s eft'orts to bring ?rnjr ^ them forward—it would be a very difficult thing in deed—it is better m x % that Government should have a plan ^ 'TT ^ m ^ of moving the people. This is being done in many parts of the ylobe—not

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^WTT ^ ?iw r I I JTtSHTT SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: It is wrong. % ^ ^ ^t^ I ^ ^ SHRI VASANT SATHE: It has been SRTrft t , f5RT% ?qir *frr 5 T ^ R published also. You get that figure. ^ ^srmr | ^ ir^ wk ?t>rt Why do you quarrel with me? You % sffw wft *rrar ^ ?rr?TfT^ are again quarreling just like about 315 Steps for Develop- DECEMBER 7, 1977 m erits of Eastern 316 U P . (Af)

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^ W!T t srf^T^ifsr f % srfwffrfsr % 3TT^T I I T?: IT? ^?rr *TT I ?rT5r W %TT vft STT, |JT f : ? 5 f r s f ^ m I ^ ?Ti% I — fir ^ m^prr f?^T 1 MR. CHAIRMAN: The time aUotted is over. I will caU Mr. Lakkappa. 'I'here ;irc many other hon. Members Hift iir>T ar^RT cm^'t ; nlso wanting to speak. Now the hon. 5t t :t I ^ 'T^ q-im T’rime Minister says that after (j p.m. ^SFTT 1 he will not be here as he has a prior appointment. ^»n

t — ^ ir ^r?=T ^ 1 'sft 5TVT Tra : s^rwfT ^ % %ir 'TFS'IR ^ I THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT- ARY AFFAIRS AND 1.ABOUR (SSRI q^>fT ^ t wrr RAVINDRA VARMA): We have- no sr^fTR ?mr 1 ih.ieclioii if the hon. Members want I he lime to be fxtenderl but the dis- cussion should end to-day. That was >sr> ; JrtiPT ^ (he recommendation oI the Business k ? I Advisory Committee. : MR. CHAIRMAN: All rit;ht, how >sft Jfk*t 5T«PT STiJR 5fr much time? ^TT 7^ JT^T^ ?TT% ??K ?iT3r SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: By half ^ ir^f ?rnrr 1 1 qp: m hour. ^ir g fm r 11 MR. CHAIRMAN; That means that 1 will have to call the Prime Minister HHTqfcT *ri5t?*T : asiT^T Tf^ at quarter to six. « ^ I, t ?jT^ ^ ?rrr i SHRI K. LAKKAPPA (Tumkur): What is all this? This is all region- ilism. iftft 5fffT TW : fTfRV ^ JfT spT 51^ STETR ^ ?T»ft ?)>fr«r ^>rr i mx ?tr ??t «tt TUT : ^ ® : ^ ^ eft srETT^T 5fr ^ ^ f t qr i ^ra- ? ? ?fk ?rr? fif sf t ^TFT sftft ^ ferr jTRT I '•'TTfT I f^r^TT ir % SHRI HARIKESH BAHADUR: Reply '7.^ ^ ^ I may be given by the Prime Minister to-morrow. ?mT«T% STSJT^T SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: If this ^ I f R T I I i.s approved by the House, the debate may go on to-day and the Prime «ft *iVd 5 M Tm : ^ 5rnr^ I Minister may reply to-morrow morn- ^rferrf ^ 1 ing. He will take fifteen minutes. 331 Steps /or Develop- DECEMBER 7, 1977 m erits o / E astern 332. U.P. (M) [Shri Ravindra Varma] very important points. In 1962 a Joint To-morrow there is the discussion Committee was set up by the Planning on Netaji. Commission to examine the backward- ness of four districts of Eastern U.P. SHRI MORARJI D’ESAI: There are I have that report in my hand. very few in the Opposition. What is The very important aspect of it was the use of a reply to-day; If it is this. Their aim was to ensure uui- permitted I can reply to-morrow. form rate of growth and uniform level of development in different regions of MR. CHAIRMAN: Prime Minister the country. The Study Team was will reply to-morrow. authorised to explore the possibility Is it the desire of the House to ex- of understanding the depth of back- tend the time of the House? If so, wardness in Eastern U.P. As the House should it be extended by an hour or is aware, three Prime Ministers have half-an-hour? It may go upto 18.30. come I'rom U.P. The more the Prime Ministers from U.P., the more the SHRI YADVENDRA DUTT: I have backwardness of U.P. Another person one submission to make. Originally from U.P. is also trying inside to the time given was from 3.30 to 6.30. become Prime Minister. Well, I don't It may be extended beyond that. know how much backwardness of U.P. MR. CHAIRMAN: The time allotted is there. Our Prime Minister is 2 hours. We have completed two has to look into this U.P. hours also. I should have called the State has dominated all along the poli- Prime Minister to reply and also your- tical wiU of this country. We ba/e self. But as Members were anxious found the creation of an atmosphere to speak on this and it is a very im- of distress, dissatisfaction, inequali- portant subject, I appreciate their ties and imbalances, especially, re- anxiety. That is why I give them a gional imbalances and these things chance. Since the Prime Minister has have been very clearly reflected. It agreed to speak to-morrow, let us ex- is not that we are pleading in this tend time upto 18.30. forum saying that roads have not been built, fisheries iiavc not been develop- Is it the desire of the House to ex- ed, or industries have not been develo- tend the time of the House upto 19.00 ped and so on, in any particular re- hrs.?, gion. It is not that we are sajang that railway lines have not been laid SHRI VAYALAR RAVI (Chirayinkil) in this place or that place. What we We agree. are saying is that we should take an SOME HON. MEMBERS: Yes, the overall view of the country, the re- time may be extended upto seven gional imbalances of the country, the O’clock. backwardness and so on. Economic growth is not uniform throughout the SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA: With the country. This is not a surprising Half-an-hour discussion be from 6.30 thing in respect of U.P. alone. P.M. to 7 P.M.? MR. CHAIRMAN: The House wiU Pandit Nehru brought to our coun- continue upto 7 P.M. try the concept of scientific planning at that time. But in the implementa- SHRI K. LAKKAPPA (Tumkur); Motion has been moved by Shri Yad- tion of planning what we find now is vendra Dutt on an important subject. that the very object has been nullified, I support the sentiments and the views by various expert committees and so as also the object with which this has on because it is only the will of the been moved in this House. bureaucrats which has been prevailing. The present Government is also adding I heard the other side with rapt more confusion and we don’t know attention. The mover has also made what the concept of rolling plan is. 333 Steps for Develop- AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) ments of Eastern 334 U.P. (M) I 'J'here has been no scientific analysis In U.P. there are now 56 districts. of the backwardness of the country in In U.P. there used to be more than one terms of development, ihdustrial hundred ministers let alone the Minis- growth and so on. This is the situa- ters of State and Deputy Minister. tion which is prevailing today. Even making use of the entire govern- ment machinry is it possible to im- prove the situation in U.P. as far as Thereiore, the entire situation has removal of its backwardness is con- to be studies on the basis of giving cerned? That is the most important c(iualit;r of development, sharing of aspect which has got to be kept in le s o u r c e s in an equitable manner. We mind. I hope my hon. friends will not should .see that all comers of U.P. or mind taking help from the Centre on of any other State, for that matter, are this basis. dealt with in a proper and effective manner. Proper growth must be en- There are ever so many rivers in sured. Even the Patel Commission re- this country. Ganga is there. We l)ort is only a fractional report. It is have got natural wealth available m Jiot based on any scientific basis or any plenty in this country. And nature is such thing. They have only examined .so kind to this country so far as natu- .some people and given a report. For ral wealth is concerned. But, have we the last so many years nothing has tried to exploit the natural wealth of been improving. All the representa- this country for the betterment of the (ives of the regions have been plead- people or for the economic prosperity ing in the House that the backward- of thi.s country? No. That is because . n e s s has to be removed, not only in of lack of rational thinking on our U.P. but everywhere wherever there is part. The bigger the States you create l)act;\vardness. So, this is the situa- the bigger the problems will be. For tion that is prevailing now. development of any part of the coun- try, politica comes in. I would say that U.P. is bringing in politics. I So far as implementation of the re- may tell you that so far we had three commendations of the Administrative Prime Ministers from U.P. And Reforms Commission are concerned, another man, Shri Charan Singh is flivergent views have been expressed. trying to become Prime Minister. He Even shri Jayaprakash Narayan had hails from U.P. K'cently made a statement in Bihar What the Planning Commission should lurther reorganisation will only mean do or what the Prime Minister should fhis—the bigger a State the bigger will do is this. Wherever you feel that be its problem; there cannot be any there is a big State, you should economic growth. U.P. is quoted as see that there must be a rational and example. Population of U.P. has viable administration without creating assumed greatest dimension now. This regional imbalance. This sort of at- )s the biggest State of India which ' ould not only produce a large num- mosphere is what we want now. You ber of M.Ps but also M.L.As and they should see to it that each backward State of the country is developed uni- 'an control the whole of India politi- formly and you should see that assis- 'ally. This applies not only to the tance is given to each such state in a •laiiata Party but also to the Congress uniform manner. The entire planning by virtue of the strength. That of this country requires to be done on 's not at all good. Is it possible to a rational and scientific manner. I am HP ^'^ministration efficiently if sorry to state that the Planning Com- , ■ in this state? I will not mission and the present Government ‘ vocate that all the bigger States are simply creating more confusions split into smaller ones. I only thereby adding fuel to the fire. nrfn there should be a rational 1. as far as reorganisation of Reorganisation of U.P. is no doubt ® ^Sger States is concerned. important. But, at the same time, I 335 Step.' for Develop- DECEMBER 7, 1977 merits of Eastern 33 6 U.P. (M ) I S h r i K. Lakkappa] it I !T«ft request the Prime Minister to see to ^ jf vft ?rq^-5m *frr it that all these points which I have % ^TtrfT m j | ^ft^: brought out are taken into account by Government and Government should t 5'Tn'tir see to it that the regional imbalances ^ I I fT0fm % f?Tq ^\T in all the backward regions ;ae re- m tR? I >7^1 ^ % 'TT- moved as early as possible. ^fqzT w k. ^ fp j qr For the development of liLickward ^fqZT fg ^ T ^ H'itpt areas of the Stales, the counUy should lie taken as a whole and not U P . ^f, 't^ll'-i'H 5fF3; TT'TciTp-HprF^ alone. spiT t ^rn: ^'iqi w ^ With these words, I support the ffi:rrTr I I gTFTf t'T Motion moved by my hon. iriend. i r r ^ ^nrirr ^ ^ m ^ (>rrTPTtT3f) ; f^CRT ^ fr o fr I^TT JTI % % f'T®? k 1 f r o i •TfK ^ q- ^/?TT% t ^ it ^ f t 185, 200, 2 1 0 ir ^JTKT qTfrfqrr K i

^ it JTiTFJrmf ? j 3TT <5^ ■3^'r |t JTT %frrRT t I ^'r m ?ftT vfr k i ^ ^ % j TIT^T it ^‘r t ?T>T ^?TfTT 77. ^I^'t ^ 3 imTTT O I, 5ft ’TT^r^; T ^ % 1 'flt I Jt ^ ^ m Tfj TT ^STTTT f. I 'ftirJ^T f'TOf f. fsRSFt q r f : r 7 ^ ?rr?wr?rT vft f, ^ ? j k I ^ f^r f'TSfT^ % fsffT ■jsrim 5fh: I i % IT^ HtCT^T rr^ irf7zn ^ f7 5 f ?nr -*rFr I t ?T*ff ^ fTOf frr ^ ^ IT?: II? gti. t f n t ?frr ^ m ■j?T^ ^ ? ?rrir «rr^ % i t t i f q-%' I ^ '#fr ?T2F n ^T f'mr srnr t ^TT ^^rjTTr = ^ 7 % 31^ wt7 ?TRr ^snipr ?fTT'ftw ^ ■sT^tr ^ ^ ^ ^*T3ft’" 'ft# TfT :3Tm ?ftT ?Fcl7 5> t rfr qiT ?nr it fTRTfr % sTTimT fe r n f r o f ^ ^ % !fp 5CTR ^ 5T#f I I ^ ^ 55TPT ?T^'TT t I f r o ? T ^TFT »ft- t I ® ^ ^ c T T t I !F rT R -^ ?ff # sp-^T »T ^ W T ^ «TT ^fp" iTTsr #: 5T^ % w p5Fft ^ ?n=3r?sr it »mr | fsf'TT ^ jft ^TfT rit ITP? 7 ^ ^ a , % I, ^ % ?T 5TT??r it, ^ ^ f® rriT vfix ^ f3i% 13fr ^ f'r e t fiJ I, I 5TT Pt ® I f(T ^ I q^KTTRT % ^ "t ^ it wt 5, 6

% ^ 12, 14 a-frT Sr *TT^r^ ii- -^rr I f^^T-TT I I msri'U 'TT crfTTT:? fTT qT^ ^ ^ \ =?Tfs;T ^ k 55t% ^ TT-?fTST ^^"upTf 7m ^ ^ t iT^rg[% w ^ T ^ ls r =!TrErt vft ?r % ^??V I ifrr q-riiTiT m r . r/r-.;?rrw i ^ JTT'-Fr^: 5f:T =?Tf|'7, fpi^T

iT ^ r^ if 5Tf^ wr t s ^flrr^ fq ^ f ?tr ^r:,-7T‘i rr^S^fxr ijf^gra w'r w?r frsrt ir T ’TT7T'cT ^TTTT 'jrT^^, rft

?;fl, 5cfp fqflFt fnr 7j :s t f ^ jp;^R w-j ?ftf^ #jt ?'JT t I f^^r-fr t 1 i^H^nrr | f=F7 tr^t?¥ -iTi TtT^g-pTr ?rrr»- ^iTRr ? Ffr fq^| ’=S'?IT T> flTTT^T fg’3T^ 7% % fq^rt ?n; Tptff T{^ t -J^ir f^T5r?ft % ^ ^ 7 ^ i? ^ f*Tvrm I I ^R'ar^r ^»tt f?ij- ^rr^ t 1 W, prtf^ ^r%lT, fq^ ^ jfTrft I, ?TTT q^rT ^lir ?Jmr t f^; fq®i 7^ oTm , %■ ^jfr t ?TtT ^r?ft t I ?TT'=" ?rrit ^ -^T ^ =^r=T »rr^ jt^ k rfr 3T(?'T I '4\ 5r'F. H ?rm R?r fsr^rr Pt: ^ p3 ^ i? f. I |?ri t S)>3T^T 3ft n :p|irT f?T ^ I ^ ^ ^|r ^ *10- I HTq?f % ?T'fIT7 ^ | t n, it »rqT fr©! ^?rnrr it f5f=T% fq-^r ^r, ?rrrt g?r^ Tt f t I % f?rq f/tfVrm 1 # ^>r ? TRT 5ifer JT?r t ?TT^ ^nr ^ qwf I rfr

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f^r^R % ?TJ-^Pdi ^r ^rar t f ^^f?t ^ ^ ^ ^ f ?r % ir tpsn; fjp^rr | 1 nfr JRiq, JsTt f^5^qT«r fim ’T ^'t, it f^fcT 2T?- t ^ ^ ^r f^rgr^ 5FT% fP it 1 1 q r ^ar% cRTFTT % '■nnr T | 't ^ ^ I, ^%fT ^fT^rr crw^rrajFT'T ^ ’UT^ t I q fe r ^ grr^ ^ t I ?r>R ?T>fTT «ft S IR figr «rr % ^ ^ # d% «ft H^nj- I , eTTfT % ^"tJT f!T^ fTr irir %, '3i"t n n ^ o % ? ? r % ^rf9T?3t ^qr^r I % >TSf7 ^ f^JTT ^ f’TrT TTcrr I I trjx^itff it ^ ■5fnr 1 sri 1962 it ^ ?r>^ 5T^ f i r ^ I I ^ STTJfY frq-t^ I 339 Steps for Develop- DECEMBER 7, 1977 merits of Eastern 340 U.P. (M ) [ Hfr Tnr ] ^>rr sfrr ^ siTPT ^ ferr ^snw, sii^T ffT li'wr ^ ^ srir% ^ SrcfT =a'sT ?r , w I I ^ ^‘Tf W,sW T;^r: i

iir;rftJT >sfr f fr ^ r h T?rr t firis'T ?r ^ t ff: T vrti ^ q?: 5T^ ' ir qf'" g l I I % ipr q-?TT ^ : -3^ W in r I 5R- ^ qr n rt ^?5^r «r ?nfr-cf.]^ ?fp 5T^T % »Tnnf3T5r w ^ r ? fr 'T^ ?r^ ^ ^T% q^Spmcft »t f^T»T tT IT^TTR t I ?mt % jR T srfrr ^ H ^ snrf^ i

^ iTRft t I STT |T ^TTt^ % fTTT % 4 ^tfTT^TT it ^ r >TT =f'j wis^ 5r g ^ q r ^T % ^n^ir 4 f® wr ?rrf^j7PT f'TOf |cr #3T^ f ^ =m%jT— t f t zTi ^'t ^ 5fi a^ >7^1 r I ^ ir ^-

“ The groVth of population is so t T O R ^ ^srrffTT heavy that if the area is entirely fJTTt Jhtt ^ fir I ?rk ^ ell for development by the private rector, the development may not be TTT^ ir TOR ^ t | t , h ^ iuick enough to bring about the ^ grRT ^ 27WT | ;(isired increase in fho avenues of =^cTT ^ fjRT ^ ir 30 employment, income and standard j; living. Heavy investments would ’hcrel'ore, be necessary to achieve oJRFl'T ^ ■he desired re.sults. The Central Gov- ernment is already putting up heavy % TFfV ^ ft, ar^ % %< pro.iects involving substantial invest- ?TTT^ ^ fjTWf ^ ’it ft I ^ nn’nts, Ihc locations of which are de- ^ ^SJT % m THTT ^ cided on various criteria. Keeping his in view, it is recommended that ^ ^ ^fhrt ^ ^ ^ f?iTT such oi these projects which could 5rfiTf?T ^ ^ : ^ c r ?rrq- ? I # >0 located in the backward areas ^ ^ ^ % 5^1% ncUiding eastern UP may be loca- txl in this area. Among the Cen- f% 3 0 5r

'- 'f r - T i 21ft 3fT 'ift I ?fk ^itfqTR vft I I t ^ It cTTfT I STT^ ^ sfl'Ji'tt, c^TfjR m ywrir^n^ ir ^'TJTT I ^ ^ ^ q r 5Tft g-', ^ '^ r r fw % ? r k s t r w t rra' ^ ^ ^ wrr %■ %, ^ ^ jTrq", ^ ^ f T ? R Jc rr I W T T ir ^TT ^ imr ^7^ i I ^ ?H3TT ^ T f r t STnRT ffTorq’ ^F?7TT =^1% | ‘ijp ’ % |Ti % ^nr Tr ^ f W I ^ % r i s ^ S ii s R =5rk 3Ti^ s I I, ^^ % jft if ir*ft *TI STT ^ | t 3ft ?r 11 # TOR ^ It ^ t, ^ qf5T ^ ^ ^(T»rnT f t i iT flf ^ ^ ^trsft^T It jrfffPtIk ft^ STRT I I ^ | i I wfT'TT 600*rtrf Jrsr%?r#qpft^ !H TR f t ^ ^ I ^Ttft T *ft f^lTT JTT^t jf^lr w!Tm it ^ 'jncTT ^ 5^7 fro?r 600 *tT^1 I ^ir ^ I ^ if: it qr^ft ^ ^nfrm ft irtt «Tr i ?% qf^'t ^i^TRrr ^ ' f t ^rrr ^ ^ *ft, srraT f t «rr i «ft% % qpft ^ uf %rRr 1 1 343 Steps ior Develop- DECEMBER 7, 1977 ments of Eastern 344 V.P. (M)

[>--Tr m r 5i^T, tt ^] w ff% #f%T vifz «fr ?T>?: ^ 18 hrs. wr ^ f*%w ^ ^ [Ml!. Deputy Speakkr in th e Cha;?-] f'trft’ sft I ^rrPT I ?fT 5^F t ?nw'T ^Tcfrar i ^ irm^ it # ^ 2: -f; ^ t fwPjR % *n«T HTRT m if I ^ ^ it I fTTTT frr^'f -T ^.T 2 5 •?:t^t qr f^r-TTO ^ r i fp#? % 'TT’T ?, f?r q-T^ : 3 ^ !1T!T it ^ 7 ^ 4 5 ?T ^FIT 5TT ^T=TT I I Ffj ^?T"f TT^Z i r % ntWT it ■3Tr =T3FiT TT 4 0 t I ^^TTT ^ it %7TT it 110 tttr: t, ^ t TiTT ^ ^ ^rmr ^ 11 ^ferr '<■ i:?rr-T: t — ] 0 0 7:rrrT, ^‘ t 1 1 0 %?iT t I I 1 w r% I I q^TW it ] 04 T ^ t I St ^r^'t q r ^ t m^T I -STj'r ?T^MT F ^TTF ^ 104 ^‘t %f^ % it vft ?rM f q r '3^ ^Tflr t I ITT i r f w ir ^ t I n JTT^ Wi'CTT^r t ^'T flT ^ r t, ^ ^ 37^nr ^ TT% f . , ^ ' i I t giHT^ ir if ^ ^T?rt ir ■3^ % ^ r ^ I 1:^ jfT gfrrrrfr ^ ql% ^ fg ^ n ’ 5t fT ^ TT»TT I T T ^ ^ 'n =!?^ 5t;t T t^ , -3^ »TTfr St fsr^ f^'t it ^ prr t, SITSr «ft ^ TT ^ ’f:! ^ T I ^ ^'rhi^ ir ^'pfr =5rrf^ 1 tt ^ ^ it T T ?T— TT^If ^ I ^ t t ^ STRT -K it ?nrft t ^ >T^ TTjfr cqcF'-iTT ^'pfr ==TTf?W I ^UJT^^iRT ?TT ^ I ^ ’TT TTFW^, TTTW: ^ ’■ipJR ^r 5TRT * 1 ^ , ^^TEft ^ ^ ?T«rr ^ t I r?IT% it f*T^ ^ |, m F n fr % «ft% % 'TFft ^ 5ZRPTT JTTfir^ f?RTf €r 5JRF-!rr t 1 •^<*iid ^ \ W ftiirdr^ft-t: 3 » w m r s [- % ^flT ^mFTPT % ^ 't ^ ^ c m f ^ % ^ - ^ ^ 5IT T ? t ^fp - muf ^ ^ t | | 1 ^ ?r MiruiHT^ % ^ I jftSPTT ?ITT *:q'i T^T «IT, ^ ^ ^ »TT %f%7T t ^3^rr ==FT *FT fv o a < Steps for Develop- AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) ments of Eastern 346 U.P. (M) if 3TSff *rhr if 0nTT % ^ff ?rff ft ?iwt I 1 w ^nr% qr | i -T ^ i ^ qr ^f^r fRft *ft i q f f ^r^r-?raT-f%fTcfr 3?r, % fer f ?mT % Tnssnr % flr^Rt ^fr ft: dry tfK't if 'Tff ft^n 1 ? fk MI '-I 37T7TRT ^TfcTT f — fT ?f ^fciT i snft % s?r qr s^tpt f e n smf i t o ?ft qff ^ r fWt ft, %ft^r 5f?fT t j f t w r sfr *fr s m sfpff =pt 3f f fI ^ % q f? 5|f5T f t r f cPF ^fFT sftr ? m ftrrCr srer qx rr i ?r^n: ^ft «n, fir ferR-^rawf if f^ n f w r rA, % trt qm qff «n, ^ t st f?r?rf 3?r qrsnrpi ^ r r f ^ ^"*rt 'Jff d <4i >Tft 5^1 I 'm ? 1 ^ra snr f—fro Ir ?T^ f^WRT ^ ft: ^If y < q w W TW I CTf-ffH' ^mt?r | i ^ % ftrt

gtt g^rnt ^rf^tt 'jft vrwnn sft Tm f^t^TgT : sTST %5T if «Tft f 1 ferm % ftw tthhW H^nqfir v ^fT ft ^rmrfr ^ftf vfr ®fht p R X ?tt st£t-®rzt *mrf | ft> wrr ^r ^ sft w e ferr 1 sfr ^r% iwtrt % ff—%i?r ftr ^rm f ^ fqsrf |, fmr fqsfqn if Hft ^r% I 1 ?nq Trt^nw^ qrr q-f 5^ 5f | % i s m Tf?r € r ft?rtf # =n5r fr, ^fer 0fi: fen?ff qr ?n^r r^srn: t | | 1 ^ r 15 w f % qro tff j f e r r ^ qtffcfr f t g% , w if <|f?PTT ^ff-ir-^ft qfq »rt— w ^r =jTT ^ftf 'Tff ff f> I 2 ^ tf %gT-^rraT qj^r ^rpfpr ^"r q^TW % T m ?nft 5*m«n if q-ff fq%^r 1 frr 15 qf^r ftran g f | 1 W m Tm#r i5^tff%^RHiffq'ft:aHrr SR r ^ K fH T I 5rn: q t® ^ • ^r » ^r ? m^ n r ft ?nmn ^r wfren 1 1 n TJR- TJ-^T 5fr % Jf^TT—ft: ^spT-rrs % :3T4-?nq- ? % f e r ^ f i f qZH TTRTFT ^T "+^■11 f — ^ -Tft 1?T IWRTf ?t ^ i f 4(1 < FT5RT Tfr f — 5fe r % ^rforr f ^ - 1 w : 5 f%sn if ^iff q?t ?n^rr qr 19 snrar «rr >^pr # ^nq-, 5P ^ n T^frnf ^t riT ^ r ftm I, irtt % ft w r ftf% 347 Step.^ for Develop- DECEMBER 7, 1977 merits of Eastern 348 U.P. (M)

[ 7TR 5TT9T Ep^9rT?T ] T, ^ fsr^ ^ I ^ ^ 5Tf ft TT5fr?fr 76 tnw ^ t I T r^ I, ^?r wrr Trsrr ^ ^ ?TK 5T^% j? ’Tq-r m -j^T spt Tr;fr

5T ^ p I ^nTTTfrT % q-ff =T7T% fT^Tr I ?Ti?ftiT ?rrJT ^ r Tr^rr ^tt, i h \ ^ $RW %■ fH'®f- 5^ f i T K w j JT'ftiTTT ^ I -JJT 'TT5^¥ra'?n^t ?n?fnT T F fr ?tT ^ I 1 8 5 7 5rrf I f% ^ f I ^ f?9T it ^ f ^ ir ^ f5f^ % ^ ^ frrR- ^ ^»IT^ ^fr^t ^fr, 1^ ^ t 1 ?T73ff ?: ^T5tM ^ r ?TSTf ir ?mT 5 T ^ ? f k =ift ■»tw^ TftTFT f%? ?fh: iri % ? fk *rrT Tt I ^ »H4.Tij' ^ ^ »ft f^Timr f'tariT^ ''^ Tm’JTiq ift fsT^r^ ^ ftn n r % ?TT^ ?> Tfir %, ^ ^ ^ ^ TfT «rf»m ^ m f t *tptTtT ?ft JTift I 5f^3fr ^ cTt >srrT ^ s r ^ % 3; ^ I w k- f^ q -, f^TfR % f w r I r. ^ ?TfT^ p , ir^rtT ?tjr ??tt 5FT ^ i:w r sr^5T ir f^repft ^ t — ^ it ^ ^ it ?JTO H ?rflr^ ^ *r ^KT t ?rk t ir 'ift 1952 it ^ ^ ^ ftwf t, fsr^ % I I 'ir^R ^rcir o 7^ TiT^ ^ st^ JTff% ^WT ^ Tt^T5fr :pR^ ?rftnp % ? r t ^ ^ i'ifl'p l I I ?TT:$r it =ETR ^rnr ^ 1% f 1 ^ q->^ it r I I w fV % 11 qr ^ «ft ?rk srr^r ^fiit ft5Tlf Jr yff ^7^ !jt9T ^ ^ «fKW ) t ^ % ^R-, ?T5® 349 for Develop- AGR AHA YANA 16, 1899 (SAKA) ments of Eastern 350 U.P. (M)

^ 5ET5®t ^ - ?3T % f^TtrroT qrn- t ?rnr ^ 9 1 0 'R ^ % sft^ n ti ^ IT f^ T -j^ T I ?rr3r 5t»t t ? ?fiF" w r ^tq-1, f JTTT jjarf ^pt grcr fw ^r^r sfTT srrrJT ?r fw r f r?rT m x t, ^ w ^r ^ t ? im TfT^Trr ^ fq-^TTT ^IrTT, ?ft %

t f ? ' 1934 ?tVt: 1 9 3 9 % ^ it ^=rr ^ J r tt^ % % ;? ^ fir# «ff, # 5TR |T ?TR 2T?T irrarr | f^' ihrm <»!TT »if t >T# ^.- w % g;fr T^r ^»rmV3I ?ftT *T§TTT62»5TT ^T^TTftfSffH I ^ O I ^ fTTvff ^ ^'T 2T^ ^rt HTTvr t I 5 T ^ ^ ?rk ^ ^ #^rr Trf)^ f^ p ff wrr % g;ff f^'ff ^ jfr^T ^frnr it fr- t I ?T?rRr rr?r ^ t I jTtt ifiTT ^ ^JT it #^r<=ft, it ?ftT iTiTrns?# JTf I cr^ ^ > R - Trr f^ra-ffr JTriTTTf^t ?th: ^ ^ ^ ?fr3r JTTTT w m fw f^' t ^ %qr ^rtr i q-e^ ^ c\ * ^srrar ^ i ^r % ^ftT 't t ?it t ?rr f ¥ ^ % f=i+R T % = 5 r r ^ f ^ fwiT ?r^ 3T^ I fsp ^3T % f © it irf^^ it ^ T^: ^ I 5rpTT f T5^ % ^ ^ ^3t P: ^ |, ^ ?pr-jfr ^'t^^rsff IT^ it JTft fiRcfV ?ftT 3^ ^ t ? r > ^ q-T fejTT ^ T t fwr 5JT % f»1Tt IT^ ^ f'^TRT ^ ^ Ir I 13frmrT ^^cr^pT JT^t t. I’T ^ars ffr ^ qT it n^: ^ ^r iT ft ^ T ^"tSFrfr ? r ^ fiTfT ?R7cfr % tlX W ^ JTfcTR qr ?ftT ^ ^ 3 ^ ^ ^ f ^ t ^ ^*TTT ^T^CJiJI'l f% ^ r ^t JRT «Tr ?ftT ^ ^ft sr^ iprr h t v t " ^ H ^ t f=P ^ 5r-=T I rft ir^r % ^ ^ t I ^ zTir ft, 5JT wfr 5T^ ^ ^ ?r^r n-^?r tr fsr^ff ^ t I fft t ^ 5rnr ? w r ^ ’Tff ?TWr 3T? rIT q-^ ^jftFFT % H ^ f t SFTfT t f?TT ^rr | ’p n s ff iir»T^ it ^|t mm ^m , ^ TT ^ ^ TJ ^PTr ^rm-, ?fF ^I?T5R 7T q^ rfr ?T^ ftr^flf ar^ ^ ^tttt ^ ^ f^T^rr ^ncTTi firrt f{ ^sfr?T ■^'7 ?rrf ^ r ^ ^ ^FtTT 3TT# t ??TT ^ n f t " ! ^^r>T ?rn-T # # I I jf' ^ ^ ^>FTfeff ^ ?rrT Tc^TT c f ff ^ % frTCr, ^ > JT m H T^nR F -Tr^ JTfi- ^ff rr»Tr^ ? % f^rr, JT^fy^'f % f ^ :

^ 'f% 5Enr?: ^ -jgiq- f ^ f ’T d s t ^t T % f^rq; ?ftT R ^ m 'T’TTTT if t JTFT I ^ ETfT ^-^r % f^Trr ^T ^ s r ^ ^ ^ft’T (: 3 rtr

^Ti"?: ^ ^|t I I ^ ?rrT % fn'trf^ ^'r w 5tK ?r=5^5r ’arr^ =p t ^ ^ ?TTr 7*FT i)'|iri, tF ^ ^ fti ^*^10 ^Tipi.ct f^fTT % ?rtjff ^ 5TT^ t ?fK 5*T ?TT^ ^ qr sm fti 351 Steps jor Develop- DECEMBER 7, 1977 merits of Eastern 352^ U.P. (M)

[ ‘ifr tht i] inprai??: |, w t ?rnT §>rr i , ^TTq-rr^TT ^'r?n I ?ftT ^ 3TPi' ^PTT fqr t ^rrrir i f?? > - C\ ffr^ l I I E T ^ f I 5?fr frfq- f f t ^f.T rr-^T 3;ri; if; ff^-n; % f ^ r -HTTff)- 5 ^ I'r TfV t I #?n I ^'t ■jrTT JT^ ^ fPrrh ^r?!7f ^^7 T T ^ Sf'^ 'jq % I ^ ^ ^ T ij ^srixfi- ? I Tfcrg-^. 4 m arVr t I % 'm r ^ ?f)T sfr? % ^rrrrr % i 1%^?: ^=rf ^r ft ^T f^q-nl TF^\ ^T ^ffT I I wit ^ T »T f^ T 5rnr

rft ^ Tpfr q H f^R?fr ^ rfr ’fK ^ -sfT qfT I q^ cTT ?>ft fr ^p=T ^ ^ wfr TT ^frq' q ^ ^ t ^ f r q ’ fW r f TT gTOn '4"r mnTTr i JT ^ H T R T it ^ ^ ^H ^ 1 t I ^ ‘tf^ ’T^'r f^'i€ 3T9CT I fs: # ^ritr »T vfr f ? i - ^ q"r?T q¥TT '4t I q f ^^^r^TTTfl" ^ it q^ ^'iqT ^ stt fq^ro ^|lr ^?TTqT «fr i ftr^ra- q?j ?T Hqrnr i ffjr’T ^ f*T^r I I fiTF TT^

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ir q ? ! ^ q r srrfo cfto rrii o s t r qirr ^p t t i zTvT^TM ?rfr Tgr ^i^rr i q^rq m?4r % q-?r ^ i i t- i ^ ^'t ^q"r ff^rJT fr ^Tifr t f^ t STFT^ ^ra wT)yr( =qr^ g % q^ ^ ^ x - % flrr-qr ?T t i r , ^ rg-'t, 7TiiTT^ f^p T qq, f^rfq^sx ^ '^'<^ ^ ^ I f^Rfq?^^ q# I 'TTt^TT it s'lfiraf^'f, 51% ir

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regard to flood situation in the coun- ?^if?rt3rn?ffiFr»rra-- try arising out of the answer given to the Unstarred Question No. 126 dated jftofiTW # I, ^3^ f?WT t the 14th November, 1977. Flood and famine have become a permanent jfT^jTTWf ^ HiH rHTFT ^ phenomenon in our country. ^JTf fT ?npcrr | 1 ^ trjh t? % ¥«HT«T ftf5 (sTffrm?) : 20 ^sfr»T irr^rsrlf gsTR f^r

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TT 5ITT ?RT i r j t w ; ^ ?rt cTTTJT p3T?ff if, =5rrT p3T?ff Jf ^ 5pt «rr, f w I fit? Tn^sft^r ?r^ 'rt=^ ^ t % ^T ft ?mrm- t wtr «rp3r[T, ^ »tjtt 1 1 ?T?^' ^ S3T^W ^rfbpT ^TT^jftir 5?r w t t w ? ? t ^ f J k ^sr^Vf % %TT ^ ^ I I f5T^ q-T ^3iTT ?rk ^ 5I^7T ^ JT^fcT 7tf5r(T ?rrf^ 3ft JTT5T ^ SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEHTA: 3rr I w sr t t t ?rw ^?i>ft Floods cause a considerable damage % s:rTT ^ in various parts of the country every year. The situation is very alarming. t'tilO’ ^ ?TRTErr^ Both the Central Government and the 11 5r?r^ sr^nr ^ State Governments spend a huge TT^^TT ^JTrzft I I t ^ri^rar i amount on reUef, rescue and rehabili. tation work every year, but, unfor- ^TTw: ^ ?nn: ^|t Td^rq f>rr ^ft tunately, very little has been done to Slt9T % ir ^'T^TT I control floods in the flood-prone areas. t ?TT-ft q^'Rpmff ^ 5T^9r % ^ ^ 1 Sir, for the benefit of the House, I would give some figures which indi- cate how serious and grave the flood situation is and also its magnitude. It is a different matter that people re- 18.29 hrs. concile psychologically after the occa- HALF-AN-HOUR DISCUSSION sion is over.

F l o o d s i t u a t i o n i n t h e c o u n t b y In our country, the average damage Mr . CHAIRMAN: We wiU now take caused by floods every year is of the JP Half-An-Hour Discussion. order of Rs. 124 crores. This figure represents only the direct damage Shri Prasannbhai Mehta. caused by floods. Huge indirect damage is also caused due to disrup- SiiRI PRASANNBHAI MEHTA tion in communications, loss in sub- (Bhavnagar): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I sequent production, expenditure on re- ‘'aise this Half-An-Hour Discussion in lief operation and rehabilitation w ork. 359 I’lood situation t)ECtJMBfiR '7, 1977 (HAH Dis.) 306

[Shri Prasannbhai Mehta] In reply to Unstarred Question No. 126 of 14th November, 1977, it has been etc. I would like to bring to the notice raid that the population affected in of the hon. Minister one thing, and Gujarat is 32.97 lakhs. ask him. Whether it is a fact that at present there are no scientific methods In my district, Bhavnagar, there is to assess such indirect damage. But a river called Kalubhar. This river the indirect damage mostly exceeds brings destruction often and many the direct damage. villages are affected by the flood; waters of this river. Here I want lo The total direct loss to the country make one suggestion. If this river, during the period from 1953 to 1971 is Kalubhar, along with another river as much as Rs. 2,360 crores. It should called Ghelo, are tamed and their be a matter of concern to this House water are brought to the Bhavnagar that the flood damage is increasing Port, it will serve two purposes; first, every year. The average annual damage it will control the floods and will pro- during the period from 1953 to 1961 tect the flood-allected villages; and, was Rs. 55 crores. The average an- secondly, it will also flush the creek nual dainage during the period from ol the Bhavnagar Port and will keep 1962-1977 was Rs. 183 crores; the aver- the Port-Harbour—in proper condi- age annual damage during ■ the period tion. frbrti 1967 to 1977 was Rs. 311 crores. This year, that is in the year 1977, the Now, the basic question is about damage is horrible. The total damage financing of the relief expenditure. At to crops, houses and public utilities is present it is governed by the recom- of the order of Rs. 31215 lakhs, that mendations of the Sixth Finance Com- is, RS. 312 crores. The highest is in miss.on. What the Sixth Finance Com- Rajasthan. The damage In Rajasthan mission says about it, I would like to is of the order of Rs. 7405 lakhs. Second quote; is Haryana; it comes to Rs. 6500 lakhs. There is a great damage in Gujarat “In the light of our analysis of also. It is of the order of Rs. 5399 the advantages and disadvantages of tlie establisnmem of a National lakhs, that is, Rs. 53 crores. Fund, and the views expressed by The hon. Minister had laid on the the State Governments, we have Table of the House a statement re- conjluded that the establishment of garding flood situation in the country a Naiioual Fund, led by Central and and the steps taken by the Govern- State contributions, is neither feasi- m en t t '' meet the situation on 5th ble nor desirable. At the same August, 1977. On page 250, it says: time, the present arrangements for providing assistance to the States “ In Gujarat there were heavy lor meeting expenditure on relief rains in the State during the last operations need to be completely week of June affecting parts of overhauled. Detailed programmes Kutch, Rajkot, Junagarh, Banas Kan- of both medium and long term signi- tha brought to the Bhavnagar Saba- ficance for permanent improvement brought to the Bhavnagar Saba- ol the areas liable to drought and kantha, Mehsana, Gatidhinagar, flood should be drawn up with the Ahmed’abad, Khsda, Panchmahal, utmost urgency and these program- Vadorda, Bharuch, Surat and Valsad mes fully integrated with the Plan. district.” We strongly urge that instead of “Banaskantha and Mehsana dis- incurring expenditure on relief on tricts again experienced heavy rains ad hoc basis on schemes of dubious during the last week of July. Ac- value, provision should be made on cording to the reports received from a much larger scale for development the State Government, a population of drought and flood-prone areas in of 9.68 lakhs has been affected in the Fifth Plan both in the State and 1587 villages." 3^1 Flood situation AGRAHAYANA 16, 1699 {SAKA) {HAH Dis.) 362 ( Central sectors. Any assistance people, die, cattle perish, huts and which is provided to tHe States lor houses collapse and thousands of purposes of relief in this manner people are left in a miserable condi- would be subject to the overall ceil- tion. As has been our experience of the ing of Central assistance for the recent cyclone, the country faces a Pian period as a whole. At the lot of trouble due to such calamities. same time we feel that the provision In the circumstances, I will express of a reasonable margin in the fore- some thoughts that have occurred to casts of State expenditure should be me and I would like to know the re- considered as a legitimate charge on action of the Minister. the revenue accounts of the States. We recommend the following annual So far as funds are concerned, as provisions under “ 64-Famine Relief” my friend Shri Prasannbhai Mehta has said, when such disastrous calamities lor different States.” occur, the States have to run to the Then there is a list of States showing Centre for funds and the Centre take the amount to be allocated to them a long time to allot the funds because every year. of administrative procedures. The States are very poor and cannot meet the expenditure necessitated by floods Now I would put my questions to and will therefore have to depend on the hon. Minister. It is the experience the Centre. So I strongly feel that a of the flood-prone States that the for- Central Fund is necessary. In the mula provided by the Sixth Finance circumsiances, may I kMow what is Commission is too inadequate. There- the loss we incur every year due to t'ore, I would like to know from the floods and how much area is covered hon. Minister whether Government by flood control measures? Is the Gov- will consider reviewing or revising this ernment thinking of comprehensive lormula for linancing of relief ex- plans which will afford protection penditure keeping in view the factual against floods and also for giving re- position. Also 1 want to know what lief after such floods occur? concrete measures Government pro- pose or contemplate to take to imple- Lastly, our floods warning system is ment the flood-contj^l schemes in .lot in good shape; adequate and so- vurious Slates, including Gujarat. phisticated measures should be adop- Lastly, will the Union Government nd. give additional financial assistance to State governments over and above Sir, I would once again ask whether what they are entitled to in accordance the Government is going to form a with the recommendations of the Sixth Central Fund immediately for thfe flood Finance Commission and, if so, on ilTected areas. I would add that there W’hat basis? ire certain anti social elements which aop up during such a situation and SHRI K. MALLANNA (Chitra- flaisuse the money that is meant for riurga): Sir, I must thank the hon. Hood relief, regardless of the human Member who brought up this discus- tragedy. I would therefore like to sion. Almost every year the country is know whether Government is think- ing of an effective machinery to see sullering because of floods. Not only She States through which the rivers that the funds are used properly. ■■un, but other States also suffer, SHRI CHITTA BASU (Bara- either because of over-flow of rivers sat) Mr. Chairman, Sir, ouf~ of Or because of cyclone—as has been the the total flood-affected area of experience of Tamilnadu and 250 lakh hectares in our country, A»dhra Pradesh. We have to face only 95 lakh hectares have been flood situation almost every year, provided with some kind of protec- you know the havoc that is crea- tive measures leaving a gap of 155 by floods—many thousands of lakh hectares. I would like to know 3 6 3 Fk>bd iituaivon DBC&MBER 7, 197t (HAH Dis.) 3 6 4

[Shri Chitta Basu] to the flood affected areas and on that score, this discussion could uot be Irom the hon. Minister what broad raised. steps the Government proposes to take to provide minimum protective measu- Anyhow, the information now asked res for these 155 lakh hectares. Does ior IS, what aid has been given to tne the Government consider it desirable flood aiiected States. In this connec- to formulate a crash programme for llon, 1 would like lo state that Cen- this and implement it as early as pos- tral teams were deputed to assess the sible? damage in the various States. Im- mediately after receiving the memo- As we know, several Commissions randum from the States, which is done have been set up all over the country within a period of a week or ten days and there was one suc.h Commission by the Slate Governments, a Central in West Bengal, the North Bengal team is deputed for assessing the Flood Control Commission. May 1 damage and loss in the particular know, whether the Commission have State. The Central Teams were sent already made certain recommendations to Assam, Gujarai, Himacnal Pradesh, and if so, what broad steps the Gov- Haryana, Orissa, Hajasthan, Uttar ernment of India propose to take to Pradesh, West Bengal, and now to implement those recommendations? Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh; one Team has gone to Kerala. Immedi- I wnuld like to mention that the ately after the report is submitted, a Government of India think that the high-level Committee which is headed flood control is within the purview of by a Member of the Planning Com- the State Government. It is a national mission considers the recommendations problem as mentioned by Shri Mehta, and then comes to a final decision. The Havin'; this aspect of the matter in lollowing quantum of advance Plan w n d , will the hon. Minister kindly assistance was sanctioned to the vari- assure the House that the flood con- ous States: trol measures will be looked after by the C sntral Government for the coun- try as a whole, instead of shilling this Assam Rs. 4,98,28,000 or say five respoT isibility to the State Governments crores. whose resources are meagre and in- West Bengal: Rs. 441 lakhs. elastic, but the needs are elastic. SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEHTA: t h :c m i n i s t e r o f agriculture What was the total damage against AND i r r i g a t i o n ^(SHRI SURJIT which this aid was given? SINGH BARNALA^ Mr. Chairman, Sir, i am thankful to Shri Mehta for SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: raisir g a discussion on this subject in That was provided to the hon. Member this i louse, though this debate did not along with the question. arise from the answer supplied to the ques\ion: Part (c) of the question On the basis of the assessment by was: the Central Team and the decision taken by the high-level Committee, this ‘ the steps taken or proposed to be assistance was given. Gujarat—Rs. 10.43 taten by Government to control the crores, Haryana—Rs. 11 crores, Rajas- flo >ds in the country.” than—Rs. 7.97 crores, Himachal Pra- desh—Rs. .3.11 crores, Orissa—Rs. 8.52 And, it was appropriately replied. Now, crores and Uttar Pradesh*—Rs. 10 the question raised is that the aid crores. About Andhra Pradesh and givei to them has not been correctly Tamil Nadu, I have made a long state- mentioned and part (c) of the question was not satisfactorily replied. There ment yesterday. So I need not go into was no question regarding aid given that. 365 Flood situation AGRAHAYANA 16. 1899 (SAKA) (HAH Dis.) 366 I In addition, the Food Corporation Regarding the total damage, the of India has been directed to make figures are staggering sometimes, but available 20,000 tonnes of wheat' to these are natural calamities and not West Bengal anj 10,000 tonnes of much can be done regarding this. For wheat to Assam for distribution as example, may I mention that in 1971 gratuitous relief. The question of ad- the t'^tal damage was Rs. 631 crores ditional supply of 10,000 tonnes of and fortunately, in the year 1972 it wheat to West Bengal is under active was only Rs. 158 crores. I call only consideration. The Government has Rs. 158 crores as compared to the also decided to supply 10,000 tonnes other years. Again in 1973 the dam- of wheat each to Uttar Pradesh and age was to the tune of Rs. 569 crores, Rajasthan and 5000 tonnes of wheat 1974—Rs. 569 crores, 1975—Rs. 471 to Himachal Pradesh for distribution crorcs and 1976 was a very bad year. as gratuitous relief. So these were The damage was Rs. 886 crores and the steps taken for providing relief to unfortunately this year we do not these States. ' ' know the total damage because of the grave position in Andhra Pradesh, Some information has been asked Tamil Nadu and Kerala. So, we are for by an hon. friend regarding the not in a position to assess the total area and the damage. Flood-prone damage now. area the country, as also mentioned by my hon. friend, Shri Chltta Basu, is 250 lakhs hectares. This is the In Gujarat also unfortunately this area prone to floods in the country. year has been very bad. In the pre- Out of this area, as has been corrcc- vious years the .-average loss was to the ly stated, so for only 95 lakhs hectares lunc of about Rs. 15.97 crores. This have been covered or efforts n.ade was the average for the year 1954 to to save those areas and for that 10,260 1976. So, all thsse years the average kilometres of embankments have been was Rs. 15,97 crores. This year the constructed and 17850 km length of damage has been quite high amount- drainage channels have been prepar- ing to about Rs. 53 crores. ed. 250 towns have been protected by various schemes and 4700 villages It was mentioned that every year have been raised to a higher level. the damage i."; increasing and the loss The total expenses incurred on all is increasing. That is due to various these things is Rs. 533 crores. These factors. The prices are also increas- are the figures regarding the dama- ing. So we are assessing the damage ge.... according to the prevailing prices. For example, in 1954 when we were SHRI CHITTA BOSU: My basic assessing the damage, the average question is: how are you going to price level was much lower than the cover th e gap? present level. For example, we are SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA: assessing the cost of houses, the cost The gap is a big one but we are of animals that had perished, the doing it. Much more work is being cost of crop damaged and the pro- done now than was being done be- perty damaged. All that has gone up fore. and that is why the figures have be- come very staggering now. I n-.ight mention that upto the Fourth, Five Year Plan, only Rs. 347 Efforts are being made to find out a ^•■ores had been provided and in the solution for prevention of these fioods ^*fth Plan alone Rs. 345 crores have or for controlling the floods because been provided and this year we are nrevention is not physically possible. spending something like Rs. 81 crores We are just pitched against nature. this, in addition to the money that For that purpose a National Commis- being spent on these 2-2 States •sion on Floods has been organised. now. They have be^;n asked to SQ into the 367 Flood situation DECEMBER 7, 1977 (HAH Dis.) 368

[Shri Surjit Singh Barnala] given some suggestions—that dam should be constructed in all the rivers various matters to evolve a co-ordi- which fall into Brahmaputra. But nated, integrated and scientific ap- dams are to be prepared in other proach to the flood control problems countries which are not friendly and and draw up a national plan sometimes they are not willing inat fixing priorities which could be im- the dam should be built there. For plemaited in the near future. The example, for Bihar, we have to have members of this Commission have a dam in Nepal. Sometimes they gone to various States. They have agree and sometimes they do not also circulated a questionnaire for eli- agree. Similarly for Assam, most of citing information from all the States. those rivers come from the neigh- But, unoftrunately, the response is bouring countries. We cannot do very poor. The Commission has not much in that. All the same we have received replies from most of the made some proposals to tame these States. rivers and we are going ahead with it. They have visited many States. t. They have already held discussions with officers and also with the Minis- SHRI PRASANNBHAl MEHTA;, 1 ters of those States. Because the want to know whether any additional Chairman is the Governor, he has the financial assistance will "Be provided advantage of calling, 'the Ministers by the Central Government over and also in those Conferences. The res- above what the State Governments ponse was not as good as he expected. are entitled in accordance with the Sixth Finance Commission? Having We are trying to prepare a compre- in view the inadequacy of the assis- hensive plan and to fix priorities i.e. tance whether any proposal is under for which area which type of work consideration to review the assistance could be started. to be provided to the States? I myself visited Assam because Brahmaputra has caused heavy. . I have made one suggestion in re- gard to the two rivers of my district and I would request the hon. Minis- SHRi K. MALLANNA: Has a com- ter to ask the authorities concerned prehensive plan been prepared or to examine it. not?

SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: 19 hrs. For this plan, questionnaire has been SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: sent to various States for eliciting in- So far as assistance provided is con- formation and compiling a compre- cerned, margin money was Rs. 4 hensive plan. I discussed the matter crores 55 lakhs for Gujarat and in with the Chief Ministers and various addition to that Rs. fO crores and 43 ministers and also the officers. They lakhs have been provided this year. have different views_regarding these But there is no sucji proposal or embankments. Some said that that thinking going on that this margin should be encouraged and this should money assista'ice should be abolish- be improved and some more embank- ed or that some radical change in this ments should be made. Some people form of assistance should be made. were of the view that the embank- No thinking is going on. So far as ments are not necessary. This was these two rivulets are concerned, thw thinking. since my hon. friend has made some suggestions. I will have them exami- V/': nr- thinklnt; tn fix priorities ned to sea how best we can help that and start work, Fo) that I W93 aree in preventing floods in that area. .369 Flood »»tuotion AGRAHAYANA 16, 1899 (SAfiA) (HAH Dis.) 376

SHRI CHITTA BASU; One question : w r *r?ft has not been answered. I would re- srfrTTTV»iT??^T ^ m fp quest the Minister to let us know the information regarding the North q»To if^sr i^JT ^t5r ^ Bengal Flood Control'X5ommission. 'Tw ^^nr?r sp fw r SHRi SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: I have to look into it We did receive $ 5Trf% 5T>T some suggestions, but I Tlo not know <5rr^ the details. 1 will find out. 19.02 hrs. SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: I will request the Commission to The Sabha then adjourned tiH E leven o f t^e Clock on Thursday^ De- send questionnaires to the Members cem ber 8, 1911 / Agrchayana 17,’ 1899 of Parliament also. (Saka).