Interview with Edward J. Hendrick 1/30/79 (In Walter Phillips' Home
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Interview with Edward J. Hendrick 1/30/79 (in Walter Phillips' home) The first question reads, how were you selected to serve in the Clark administration, and what position did you hold? Well, in 1951, I was chief U.S. probation officer for the eastern district of Pennsylvania, located in the Federal Court House at 9th and Market, in those days, or 9th and Chestnut. I think it was probably mid-November or late Nov ember, I received a telephone call one day from...I'm not clear just what the group was, but I'd like to say Greater Philadelphia Movement, but I'm not positive that it's that. But they were seeking, obviously, potential names to provide joe uiarK, wno~was tnen alreaHy^rnayor and was going to come in in January to office, for consideration of department heads, commissioners, and so forth...all commissioner posi tions and many other positions in the city were totally new under the new charter. I was asked whether I wished to put my hat in the ring for consideration for commissioner of welfare department. My re action was immediately very negative, because the experience that I had had with the Department of Public Welfare under the previous administrations, the Republican administrations, was extremely negative. ' ,V (WMP: What were some of the things that were negative?) Well, when Iper'had a probationer parolee in need of welfare services, it was absolutely useless to call anybody in the Department of Public Welfare. They were very understaffed, they had no services, really, to offer. So, we used to have to go to private agencies like Salvation Army, Pennsylvania Prison Society, or other groups like that. You obtained no services, as far as adults were concerned. Now, of course, if a person needed money, that was not the function of the city Department of Welfare; that was the County Board of Assis tance or the state Department of Welfare....I'm not speaking of that entity. (WMP: Who was the head of welfare before the Clark administration?) It was a woman, and bpyT' I want to say^Mrs. McCarthy. I'm not sure about that. But it was a woman, and she wa s .y.her title was not commissioner. (WMP: Was there a board? Was she chairman of an agency?) 2 . No, she was the administrator of the Department of Welfare, which before the Clark administration, contained not only the Department of Public Welfare but Recreation as well. The... under the new administration and the new charter, recreation was split away from welfare. But under the Department of Wel fare, they operated the old Camp Happy for a summer camp for youngsters up in the Torresdale area, and the Department of Public Welfare had responsibility for all of the playgrounds in the city, such as they were at that time. Most of them were sandlots. (WMP: There was a Bureau of Recreation, wasn't there...not a department, just a bureau.) That's right, that was a bureau, and the same...the Home for the Indigent, which later became Riverview, and the House of Correction were under what was called a Bureau of Charities and Corrections. That also, was under the Department of Pub lic Welfare prior to 1952. Well, I did not submit my name. I was happy where I was; I had 12 years in with the Federal Court system, and I couldn't see the advantage of change. Moreover, I was living at that time in Delaware County. In 1940s, to be a Democrat in Dela ware County was...to have no vote! Everything was decided, really, at the primary. Whichever Republican won the primary automatically won the general election. So even though I came from a Democratic tradition, living in Delaware County I thought ...well, I want to have some say as to who's in. So I regis tered Republican. So even at that point in time, I was a reg istered Republican. J I knew I would have to move, even though I was 500 feet out side the city...I lived in Yeadon, but I knew that if I moved into the city, I would have to give up a home that I liked and buy another one in the city. So I gave itup Around the middle of December, I guess it was, I got a call from Randy Wise. And of course, Randy Wise and I had been very close and worked with each other since I first met Randy Wise in 1942. And we've been close over the years,* we were both in naval ser vice together, though he was on the East coast and I was on the West Coast, we had comparable positions. He was prison admini stration officer for the 3rd Naval District, and I was prison administration officer for the 12th Naval District in San Fran cisco. And we had worked together. He called me one day...at that time he was with National Proba tion and Parole Association which later became the National Council on Crime and Delinquency. And he was traveling the country at that time, so he used to call me when he'd get into town. He called me this afternoon, and said,"Could yotf meet?" v---- vtft I met him and he told me that he had been asked to indicate his interest in being the Commissioner of Public Welfare. And 3 . f t he said, "If I should be selected, would you come as one of my deputys, because I'm allowed two exempt deputy positions under tHe charter." "Well", I said, "Randy, why don't you see first, whether you do, before I make you a commitment". He was selected, I think toward the end of Dec^mbp.r^. T think it was firmed u p . .6f ' 517^ He came to m e . i t.pi1 v. and frankly, I went through maybe three or four days of soul- searching and conversation with my wife as to whether I did want to or did not want to. Anyhow I made the decision and initially Manny Kaufman and I were selected as his two depu ties. Then Randy was....I think Randy was sworn in either the same day as Mayor Clark was sworn in, or maybe the day after...I think the same day. So that was in January. The deputies were really not selected until two or three weeks later. I know I started on the job February 11th of 1952, ...cause I can always remember...I went on the job and the next day was Lincoln's birthday and it was a holiday. And I went home to my wife and I said, "Well, this is not bad. I work one day and already there's a holiday!" That hadn't been a holiday in the federal government. was quickly recognized that the work in the welfare de partment would require much more attention than just the com missioner and two deputies could handle, because the children's side, from a standpoint of records, accountability as to where the children under the charge of the Department of Welfare were, was almost non-existent. I think the central office of the Department of Public Welfare in 1952, when we came in, occupied the entire -floor ... 4th floor.. .of ..City Hall Annex. And if you were to ask me as to how many people were actually in there, at that time, excluding the recreation division, my recollection would be something like eight or ten...was the entire staff. (WMP: And they had the whole floor?) Had the whole floor. (WMP: What did they do with it?) t4V Well, we were literally rolling around I mean, up in the side facing....on Juniper Street side, was Randy's office, and then - 7 we divided up there, and in addition to...Well, Johannes Hoeber was brought on then. He came on as the third deputy. And Randy, Manny Kaufman, Johannes and myself used to meet every day for two or three hours, you know, planning directions...where we were going from here. In addition to that, the only other people around initially, were a secretary, a switchboard operator, and a woman who gen erally handled accounts. Some humorous things we found at that time...there was a tremen- 4 . dous safe in that office. And when Randy finally succeeded in opening it, there was nothing but a couple of old city deeds to city property... in this tremendous safe. But in the drawers of the workers down the hall, were uncashed money orders, cash, payments for children's support....I don't know what the purpose, but there was money loose all over the place, you know, in desk drawers...but nothing valuable in this tremendous safel So those were some of the situations. Now, as I said, I became deputy commissioner and my function was to be adult services...under the charter, it's spelled out under welfare department^^the department would be responsible for all dependent neglected and delinquent children. And then responsible for the aged infirm who were at the Home for the Indigent, or...I was always amused at the....I call it a Phila- delphiaism...the pronunciation. So many people seriously call ed it the Home for the Indignant!!! And really, that was my first shock...I think, the first field trip I went out and that was probably within the week of appointment...Randy and I, prob ably Manny and Johannes...we went up to inspect the Home for the Indigent.on State Road.