THE SENATE OF PAKISTAN DEBATES OFFICIAL REPORT Tuesday, March 12, 2013 (91 st Session) Volume III, No. 15 (Nos. 01-17) CONTENTS Pages 1. Recitation from the Holy Quran…...... 1 2. Questions and Answers…...... 2-57 3. Leave of Absence………...... 58 4. Legislative Business: • Laying of Medical and Dental Council (Amendment) Ordinance, 2013……………………….………. 59 • The Federal Ombudsman Institutional Reforms Bill, 2013…... 59-60 • The Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (Amendment) Bill, 2013...... 61-62 5. Calling Attention Notice: • Construction Work on Kashmir Highway's Expansion and Renovation Project………………... 63-73 6. Adjournment Motion: • Statements by Members of the Election Commission Regarding the Proposed Election Laws...... 74-99 7. Point of Order: • Iran – Pakistan Gas Pipeline……… 100-104
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Volume-III SP.III(15)/2013 No.15 15 SENATE OF PAKISTAN SENATE DEBATES Tuesday, March 12, 2013 The Senate of Pakistan met in the Senate Hall (Parliament House) Islamabad, at ten minutes past eleven in the morning with Mr. Acting Chairman (Mr. Sabir Ali Baloch) in the Chair. ------Recitation from the Holy Quran
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ICT The amount paid to victims of legal heirs of terrorist acts is Rs.74.28 Millions (Rs. 74280000). PUNJAB As per report from IGP Punjab no information is available in this Department. 3 SINDH As per PPO Sindh report, there is no detail of financial help received by the Sindh Government in this regard. KHYBER PAKHTUNKHWA Rs. 108.02 Millions were paid to killed / injured persons in the terrorist incidents. BALOCHISTAN The amount paid to martyred and injured is as under:ê Martyred Amount paid 284 Rs. 304 Millions Injured Amount paid 382 Rs. 68 Millions (approx) Details can be perused at Annex-D. GILGIT-BALTISTAN The Government of Gilgit-Baltistan has received negligible amount with regard to war against terrorism. AZAD JAMMU & KASHMIR AJ&K Government has provided about Rs. 70 millions to curb the terrorism. (Annexures have been placed on the Table of the House as well as Library.) Mr. Acting Chairman: Any supplementary? 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(c) Challans of 71 cases were submitted in the Courts of competent jurisdiction. Whereas, 45 cases were cancelled and 14 cases were not traced. (d) Twenty one (21) cases have been decided by the Courts of competent jurisdiction. The detail of punishment awarded to the culprits is mentioned at Annexure-A. (e) Fifteen (15) cases are still pending investigation and reasons attributed for non completion of investigation are as under:ê Unknown accused persons. ñ Incomplete bio-data/addresses of the accused persons. ñ Non availability of the åForensic Laboratory / expert opinion; etc. 10 Mr. Acting Chairman: Any supplementary? 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I am amazed to see that forty three kidnapping cases, the Ministry is saying that those have been cancelled, there is no provision in the law for the cancellation of case. Once a case of kidnapping or dacoity is registered and of course I understand that 780 (a) is also there, then two cases of murders cancelled. How can you cancel a case? Either it is challaned before the court and the court can discharge for the deficiency of the evidence or can acquit for want of evidence. There is no third provision in the law. The most amazing thing is, kindly come to the Sr. No. 1 in the last entry on Annex-A, starting from 2008 till 2013, now, when we are discussing on this question, only one question is decided by a court of competent jurisdiction and in this case FIR is registered and it is probably, though printing is not good, I am amusing since itãs my cityãs police station Aab Para, three persons were convicted. What are the courts doing? What the system of criminal justice of Pakistan is doing? { U { ^ Ÿ Sc U x7 Z U 7 :}BY :ˆ<=:AegG:IJcY5x 15 Mr. Acting Chairman: If you donãt have a question then it is better that you meet the Minister in his office. If you donãt have a question, then I am sorry because 7 U U U 8 S TV m“à ˚B^ :@e:žGJR5 5x :=RaO :rK:J:BD Z [ :@ R :•GJ :A :=:žgG:3G t \ ^ Senator Zaheer-ud-Din Babar Awan: I can meet anywhere U STV Ö U  aQ }=RRRau^ :=e:@R :Ai :žGJ5 5x :I= TRV :˚BD[ :žGJ 5 5 x := a O :2:@R u R { U { Sj ^ Ük U S { x V U ˚@R i :BY :d5• :•GJ :=:_t5 x = È :3=:žgG585 u \ ! _5 x =È :3 3. *Senator Begum Najma Hameed: Will the Minister for Interior be pleased to state: 16 (a) the number of complaints regarding obnoxious calls received in the police stations falling within the jurisdiction of City Circle Islamabad, during the last five years with year-wise break-up; and (b) the number of FIRs registered on the said complaints and the details of action taken so far in each case? Senator A. Rehman Malik: (a) City Circle is consisting of 02 Police Stations i.e. Kohsar & Aabpara. In these 02 Police Stations, during the last five years, 50 complaints regarding obnoxious calls were received in the jurisdiction of City Circle, Islamabad. The year wise break up is given at Annexure-A. (b) During the last Five years, 50 Cases were registered regarding obnoxious Calls, out of which 25 cases were Challaned, untraced, 06 cancelled and 02 are under investigation. Moreover, 33 accused have been arrested and 10 cases decided by the Courts. Mr. Acting Chairman: Any supplementary? S V 6 ‘Ra58 l U }@R ‰ :dJ:B\x\Z – T s:žgG:_=\ 5 xÈ :A=˘25 M5 ax = È :” :_ Y ` :|GR u U U U u 7 l Ÿ 6 l S w :=T‹ :2:BR u Z :_=5 x È :Å3:}BDO [ :ž=5 u important :;358 :|R u G:2R u ::ÅH:HRu Õ 4 º :A=:p5 M yaR Ra { U 7 U PSTV O7 O 7 2 7 7 :Bw G:2¾ :=Ra^ = T‹ :2:¼p:2R u• Ú Ó5u :?gG:@R :He3:?Ru 8 :ž=:fG:B5 u w :¼„:? 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Senator A. Rehman Malik: Since start of issuance of Computerized National Identity Card (CNIC) in Year 2001, NADRA has identified 14,922 cases where non-nationals succeeded in obtaining CNIC on the basis of fake documents, however all such CNICs have been cancelled. Mr. Acting Chairman : Any supplementary? 7 { 7 U U U l U ÆÇZ U { U Ÿ € U l w :A—N5x : 27 7 { Š\M U U ÂaQ V V 7 U S :A :gG: latest technology :f=:B\uO :G 28 U { 7 7 U U 7 U l w ˚@RSu =a58 :eGHNZ :?O :IGU BD[ :GJi[ :action :¼½M :BO :IJYS¾ ::r„Ü6 :p yaR SRa { U { V U }_5 x =È :3R8 29 { 7 l l U { U :J:BDZ[ :=<:gG:@Sc :HZ :•GJ := e<= :ž<= k ! _x = :3 30 Annexure-A PIA Fleet Data 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 Mr. Acting Chairman : Any supplementary? U U V º\V U U S { \x U Ÿ € U l S w :•=L :Ñ=:B\ \ u –¿ s :2¾ :BD [ :•GJ :2:BR u w :_5 x =È :3 39 7 { ScU x S j U Su JO :Ô<=:\ c :|R u G: 40 58. *Senator Begum Najma Hameed: Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to state: (a) the details of free or concessional tickets admissible to PIA employees; (b) the value of free or concessional tickets admissible to PIA employees during the last five years with year- wise breakup; and (c) whether there is any proposal under consideration of the Government to withdraw the said facility due to financial health of PIA, if so, when? Syed Naveed Qamar: (a) The details of free and concessional air tickets as admissible to different categories of PIA employees are attached as Annexure-ä Aã. (b) There are numerous reservation classes under which, reservations for international and domestic tickets are done. Hence it is virtually impossible to assign a monetary value to these free and rebated tickets issued to employees, since the employees travelling on a flight on subject to load basis sublo basis are accepted on that flight at last moments before departure, when the normal reservation to that flight has already closed. (c) No such proposal is under consideration at the moment. 41 42 43 Mr. Acting Chairman : Any supplementary? 7 U U U S U m[ U U S 6 V ‘Ra58 l S w :@R c <½:c B O PIA :2:IJ:A¾i[i =:=\M a~\6 J:2:B\ Z R u w :_=5 x È :3 44 U U { 7 U { Q V U 7 ‹ U ‹ :@:3gG:@RRRRSÂcx U Ra :BD[ :@ S Tc :2îM5 :@:<= ST56 :2:@¾ S ji :BC Y 8 e:2T‹ :BQ GK:ˆG:?P gG:? \ P }Ji[ :”:J:I= Z š À Z :d\• := t :ˆG:?P gG:? \ P 7 m~5V U l U :}@RSji :BoY•R :J: 45 € U U U U 7 WV S U S { \x U l U U l S w :3 3 [The question hour is over remaning questions and their replies were taken as read and placed on the table of the House] 46 (c) whether there is any proposal under consideration of the Government to convert the death sentence into life imprisonment, if so, when? Reply not received. 11-A *Senator Muhammad Talha Mehmood: Will the Minister for Interior be pleased to state the number of SIMs verified by NADRA so far with companywise breakup? Reply not received. 11-B *Senator Karim Ahmed Khawaja: Will the Minister for Interior be pleased to state: (a) the number of persons killed and injured in the incidents of terrorism in the country since 2002 with province-wise break-up; and (b) the amount paid to the heirs of the said persons as compensation; (c) the number of terrorists arrested during the said period? Reply not received. 57. *Senator Karim Ahmed Khawaja: Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to refer to Senate starred question No.55-A, replied on 31st January, 2013 and state the agency/ department responsible to monitor and check condition of aeroplanes of each private airline indicating also the age and present condition of each aeroplane? Syed Naveed Qamar: (i) Directorate of Airworthiness of CAA Pakistan is responsible for monitoring and checking the condition of Aeroplanes of Private and public sector airlines registered with CAA Pakistan. 47 (ii) All the aircraft of Private Airlines are having valid Certificate of Airworthiness (COA). The age of aircraft is within OEM specified limitations and their condition is as per specified requirements of CAA. (iii) The aircraft type, registration number and date of manufacturing of each aircraft available with the Shaheen Air International (SAI) and Air Blue is attached as Annex-A. Annexure-A Airblue Shaheen Air 48 59. *Senator Begum Najma Hameed: Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to refer to the Senate starred question No. 55- A replied on 31st January, 2013 and state: (a) the date on which licenses were issued to Air Indus and Rayyan Air; and (b) whether the said airlines have commenced operations, if so, when and if not, its reasons? Syed Naveed Qamar: (a) M/s Indus was granted Regular Public Transport (RPT) Licence on 4th March, 2011. Permission to grant RPT licence to M/s Rayyan Air was issued on 29th November, 2012. They are in the process to complete the codal formalities of the CAA whereafter the licence will be finally issued. (b) M/s Air Indus is in the process to obtain Air Operators Certificate (AOC). On the other hand, M/s Rayyan Air is to meet the required formalities for issuance of Licence. Subsequent to which, they will obtain AOC to operate their Services on domestic routes. Their operations will commence once all the legal, codal and procedural formalities are completed by them. 60. *Senator Nuzhat Sadiq: Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that free medical facilities are not provided to the parents of civilian employees of NESCOM, if so, the reasons thereof; and (b) whether there is any proposal under consideration of the Government to extend such facilities to the parent of the said employees, if so, when? Syed Naveed Qamar: The information for the above mentioned question are being collected from the concerned quarter 49 and will be replied on the next Rota Day. It is, therefore, requested to defer the question. 60-A *Senator Ch. Mohammad Jaffar Iqbal: Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to state: (a) the income and expenditure of PIA on Hajj operations during the last five years with year wise breakup; (b) the percentage of increase or decrease in the said income and expenditures during the said period with year wise breakup; (c) whether it is the fact that the air fare charged from the pilgrims during the said period was more than the routine fare/fare other than Hajj season for that destination, if so, its reasons; (d) the air fare charged from pilgrims from various cities of Pakistan and the routine fare/fare in other seasons for that destination; and (e) whether post Hajj operationsã evaluation of PIA was carried out for the said years, if so, the details thereof? Syed Naveed Qamar: (a) & (b) The year-wise detail of expenditure & income (Revenue) earned alongwith %age increase or decrease by PIA on Hajj operations during the last five years is as under:ê (Rs. In billion) (Rs. In million) Year Expenditure % age increase ( + ) Income or %ageincrease( + ) Profit( + ) Loss(-) or decrease (-) Revenue or decrease (-) 2008 9.396 ê 10.051 -( + ) 0.655 ê 2009 7.944 (-) 15.4% 08.200 (-) 1.4% ( + ) 0.256 2010 7.721 (-) 02.8 ' % 07.880 (-) 0.9% ( + ) 0.159 2011 9.181 ( + ) 18.9% 08.417 ( + ) 0.8% ê (-) 764 2012 8.529 (-) 07.1% 08.128 (-) 0.4%ê (-) 401 50 (c) Hajj fares are always fixed by the GoP. The fares are usually more than that of normal fare due to the reason that airline has to operate special flights for Hajj operation as per the requirements of Government of KSA and out of 04 legs, 02 legs always remain completely empty. (d) As stated above, Hajj fare always fixed by cabinet and normal fare of PIA from North & South to KSA are variable because of its revenue management system. Under the system in- vogue seats are divided into classes and each class has its own fare depending upon period in between booking time and particular event, season etc. Presently, the average fare of PIA flights to KSA (Jeddah) is Rs. 50000/- where as, during Hajj operation, 2012 following fare was fixed by GoP:ê Hajj fare North (Rs.) South (Rs.) 2012 85000/- 73000/- (e) MoD always conducts coordination meetings with the stakeholders after every Hajj operation in order to evaluate short comings and for future planning. The next operation is thereafter planned in the light of past experience so to provide full proof arrangements to Hajjis. 61. *Senator Col. (R) Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi: Will the Minister for Interior be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that security staff and motorcades are being provided to the ex-Interior Ministers, if so, the details thereof; and (b) the amount being spent by the Government every month on provision of that facility to the Ex-Ministers for Interior? Reply not received . 51 62. *Senator Col. (R) Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi: Will the Minister for Interior be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that Kirpa Dam and Tameer Dam in Islamabad are in dilapidated condition, if so, the circumstances which led to that condition; (b) the funds granted by the CDA for the said dams during the last five years with year-wise break-up; (c) the details of machinery on site of the said dams and present working status of the same; and (d) whether there is any proposal under consideration of the Government to redevelop the said dams? Senator A. Rehman Malik: (a) Kirpa and Tameer Dams are located in Rural Area of Islamabad Capital Territory. Both dams are in working condition but not in use by the local farmers because trend in the area is to convert agricultural land into residential area. Some farmers are, however still using Damãs water for irrigation through conventional means at their own resources. (b) No funds have been granted by CDA. (c) Detail of machinery available at the site is as under:ê (i) Bulldozer (repairable). = 01 (ii) Backhoe Showel (repairable) = 01 (iii) Dump åTrucks (repairable). = 03 (d) There is a proposal of utilizing water for drinking purpose for which feasibility repot is under process . 63. *Senator Col. (R) Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi: Will the Minister for Defence be pleased to state whether there is any proposal under consideration of the Government for right sizing and restructuring of Pakistan International Airlines Corporation, if so, its details? 52 Syed Naveed Qamar: Yes, there is a proposal under consideration of the Government for restructuring of PIAC. PIAC has developed its Business Plan. The key objectives of which as under:ê (i) Stop the bleedingêOperational Turn-around by trimming the top management, making it a lean organization, identify and stop the pilferage and theft, implement the merit-based system at all levels. (ii) Consolidation after the Operational Turn-Around by ensuring that the policies become effective and achieve the desired results. (iii) Strategic Turn-Around- Start looking at development of long-term plans that would take the airline on to the next level of growth and re-capture the lost market share in the domestic, regional and the international market. Following steps to improve the over all condition of PIA have also been initiated:ê a. Acquire Narrow Body and Wide Body aircraft on dry lease. b. Secure charter business from countries that have limited aviation capacity. c. Code share and alliances. d. Up-gradation of Business Class for which passengers pays premium price. e. Introduce pre-paid electronic travel cards in Pakistan and international market. f. Efforts to increase MRO business. 53 64. *Senator Begum Najma Hameed: Will the Minister for Interior be pleased to state the number of Smart National Identity Cards issued so far by NADRA in the country with district-wise break-up indicating also the information of card holder entered in the card? Senator A. Rehman Malik: 627,072 Smart National Identity Cards (SNICs) have been issued by NADRA till date, district wise breakup is attached as Annex-A. Smart National Identity Cards contains following information of the Card holders:ê ñ Smart Chip. ñ Name of Card holder (English/Urdu/Sindhi). ñ Fatherãs Name of Card holder (English/Urdu/Sindhi). ñ Two Pictures on front and one on rear. ñ Gender. ñ Country of stay. ñ Identity number on front and rear. ñ Date of birth. ñ Date of issuance and expiry of card. ñ Signature/thumb impression of card holder. ñ Temporary and permanent address on rear (English/ Urdu/Sindhi). ñ Quick Response (QR) Bar Code. ñ Tracking ID on rear. ñ Signature of Registrar General of Pakistan. ñ Security feathers (Map). ñ Government logo and flag of Pakistan. 54 55 56 57 Mr. Acting Chairman : Leave applications Leave of Absence 7 { U UUO7 ` P U UUU € U { x V U :2M 58 Legislative Business Laying of Medical and Dental Council (Amendment) Ordinance, 2013 Senator Farooq Hamid Naek (Minister for Law and Justice) : Thank you. I wish to lay before the Senate the Medical and Dental Council (Amendment) Ordinance, 2013 (Ordinance No.II of 2013) as required by clause (2) of Article 89 of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Mr. Acting Chairman : Ordinance stands laid. Item No. 4. please. The Federal Ombudsman Institutional Reforms Bill, 2013 Senator Farooq Hamid Naek: Thank you. I wish to move that the Bill to make institutional reforms for standardizing and harmonizing the laws relating to Federal Ombudsman institution and the matters ancillary or akin thereto [The Federal Ombudsman Institutional Reforms Bill, 2013], as passed by the National Assembly be taken into consideration. Mr. Acting Chairman: Is it opposed? 7 U U U l V O 7 U WV Sc U l Ÿ l S w :r 59 It has been moved that the Bill to make institutional reforms for standardizing and harmonizing the laws relating to Federal Ombudsman institution and the matters ancillary or akin thereto [The Federal Ombudsman Institutional Reforms Bill, 2013], as reported by the Standing Committee, be taken into consideration at once. (The motion was carried .) Mr. Acting Chairman: We may now take up second reading of the Bill, i.e., clause by clause consideration of the Bill. There is no amendment in clauses 2 to 24, therefore, I put these clauses together as one question before the House. The question is that clauses 2 to 24 do form part of the Bill? (The motion was carried .) Mr. Acting Chairman: Clauses 2 to 24 stand part of the Bill. I now put the Schedule to the vote of the House. The question is that the Schedule do form part of the Bill? (The motion was carried .) Mr. Acting Chairman: The Schedule stands part of the Bill. We may now take up clause 1, the Preamble and the Title of the Bill. The question is that the clause 1, the Preamble and the Title do form part of the Bill? (The motion was carried .) Mr. Acting Chairman: Clause 1, the preamble and the title stand part of the Bill. Now, Item No.5. Senator Farooq Hamid Naek: Thank you sir. I wish to move that the Bill to make institutional reforms for standardizing and harmonizing the laws relating to Federal Ombudsman institution and the matters ancillary or akin thereto [The Federal Ombudsman Institutional Reforms Bill, 2013] be passed. 60 Mr. Acting Chairman: It has been moved that the Bill to make institutional reforms for standardizing and harmonizing the laws relating to Federal Ombudsman institution and the matters ancillary or akin thereto [The Federal Ombudsman Institutional Reforms Bill, 2013] be passed. (The motion was carried.) Mr. Acting Chairman: The Bill stands passed unanimously. Item No.6. The Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (Amendment) Bill, 2013 Senator Saleem Mandviwalla (Minister for Finance): Sir, I beg to move that the Bill further to amend the Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan Act, 1997 [The Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (Amendment) Bill, 2013], as passed by the National Assembly, be taken into consideration. Mr. Acting Chairman: Is it opposed? Not opposed. It has been moved that the Bill further to amend the Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan Act, 1997 [The Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (Amendment) Bill, 2013], as passed by the National Assembly, be taken into consideration. (The motion was carried .) Mr. Acting Chairman: The motion is carried unanimously. We may now take up second reading of the Bill, i.e., clause by clause consideration of the Bill. There is no amendment in clauses 2 to 4, therefore, I put these clauses together as one question before the House. The question is that clauses 2 to 4 do form part of the Bill? (The motion was carried .) 61 Mr. Acting Chairman: Clauses 2 to 4 stand part of the Bill. We may now take up clause 1, the Preamble and the Title of the Bill. The question is that clause 1, the Preamble and the Title of the Bill do stand part of the Bill? (The motion was carried .) Mr. Acting Chairman: Clause 1, the Preamble and the Title of the Bill stands part of the Bill. Now, Item No.7. Senator Saleem Mandviwalla : I beg to move that the Bill further to amend the Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan Act, 1997 [The Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (Amendment) Bill, 2013] be passed. Mr. Acting Chairman: It has been moved that the Bill further to amend the Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan Act, 1997 [The Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (Amendment) Bill, 2013] be passed. (The motion was carried .) Mr. Acting Chairman: The Bill stands passed unanimously. U WV Pm 8 6 U l :A 5 pronunciation :?=5 5ã \ : Mr. Chairman: We move on to calling attention notice. There is a calling attention notice at serial No. 8, in the name of Senator Nuzhat Sadiq. 62 Calling Attention Notice Construction Work on Kashmir Highways Expension and Renovation Project Senator Nuzhat Sadiq: Thank you Mr. Chairman. I hereby draw attention of the Minister-in-Charge Cabinet Division to a matter of sufficient public importance regarding construction work on Kashmir Highwayãs expansion and renovation project has been delayed because of late payments to the contractor by the Capital Development Authority (CDA). Mr. Chairman: Yes, Minister for Cabinet Affairs. Senator Saleem Mandviwalla: I will reply, sir. l 7 U :}IKe:ˆe background :=t :fG:= L :G 63 7 7 7 € x S O U U ÂQ S WV :| R uG:Ô„Ï :‚5 :}@R ji :BCY8 e:25M J:¼„Z Ï :? : projects : 64 because if the project has been delayed due to finances and as it is part of the PSDP project, I think both Federal Government and CDA are responsible for not making funds available on time for this project. So, I think it is a joint responsibility. I would not blame anyone person for that. U { U U Sj S TV U S 4 É` l Saw Sc U { x U }@RRi :@ :@ :Bw :žGJ5 5x :B O :žgG\ 25 ax =È :pyaR R :@:•=R R a x :ˆp:R y’ :@RSc p yaR \ :ž=5 a5x Senator Nuzhat Sadiq : Sir, this is the main road leading to the airport. 7 7 O U 8 WV l { U non :JO :fG: 65 { U m^ ºRm\8 U ÂaQ c U U U U U •Ÿ Ÿ l S w :timing:˘A :J:Bsi[ ~ :B ^ gG:timing :@R :=Ra^ :Å ! ž=5 a5x : ;<=NQ :I= M :@v :H4º :p yaR Ra U 7 7 WV Ö WV U P7 WV O :A5 : rules suspend :˘BD[ :=RaO : Bill pass :|G:BR u Z :”:Ai 5 G ! ž=5 a5x :}BD[ :?J:ž=:J:Ai[5 u Z 5 :? 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Mr. Chairman: We are already on an adjournment motion and under the rules, two hours are meant for this adjournment motion. Senator Mushahid Hussain Syed: I just want to say something on Iran-Pakistan pipeline which is a positive thing. l V V { x U discussion : 3 \8 adjournment motion :Bs:BD–T [ :|R a~ : :@U RSc pyaR \ : ž=5 a5x }@RS‰ 3 O l l U S‰ O V V U S x € Saw :}@R 3:2:BR u –T s:BD [ :|R a~ ::HRaw :@R ä :H=i j ä` :p yaR R U l U € 5V { U :}_5x =È :JH=:‚RZ u \ M • :ŒJ:A: ` 56:@U RSc pyaR \x :ž=5 a5x U U { U € U U ScU S c { \x P l P l U •5V l S w :@RR :}_=5 x È :@ pyaR :?=p:;3:5 u é Ÿ 58:(: 88 € U 7 U 7 € 7 U € m`7 U { € m x :de:=:IG:}?Ot U OO :_5Y8 :p é Ÿ :? :žJ:A:3KG:Bs`Öi \8Y8 G:@RSc :Å † w :? O :”R 3:A 8 m RS u gG: 89 U U 7 U UUU7O [ P 7 7 STV 7 :BZY :IGe:_w =RRaMw :‚:BCD =:?J:2:ž=:2\ i[RRuÚ5 ujLÓ5u :=<:d=i V :B O :„gG:IGe:_ Ÿ w = aL w := :IJ:2 O ¾u:BD [ :@R :2:ž= 5 u 7 Ÿ l U ß 7 7 7 U U U :ÅÈ G:3:@…8cRS ji :hpyã :ˆ3BC5 YQ :ˆ<=4 iÖ :_5x = È :@HG3U R 8 ‰ • :}? O :Á=RR8 4 6 :? 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U U Sjm8 S T V }@RRi :BÂM s :B Q :;<=5u :A\ G:žgG:˘@\ l U Sji U Sc { \x U x Ÿ Saw :žgG:˘@\ R :BD[ <:Ji[ : biased :žgG\ ! @R pyaR :ž=5 a5x : •=5ab G:„ ïê5 :H 4º :; 97 U U 7 l Q7UUUSc 7 Š u 7 7 l € — 8 :BCY :fG:}IJ:=K<:Ji[vuZ gG:B O :IJ xZ[ :@R :J:IJ:= i auMtauu~R e:GJ:=J:•=:2:=:I= i[[ iR u v O =:3\ \ 8:=R HRa` : 98 U U Sc S jc€ WV S c º mË \V corruption :3^ G:}BD[ : corruption 25M K:;e=RaS5u :@RRR :fG:˘@i :Å= L :A5 :ˆ 99 Point of Order Iran è Pakistan Gas Pipeline Senator Mushahid Hussain Syed: Thank you very much Mr. Chairman. I think your conduct as Chairman of the House has been exemplary and very democratic and we appreciate that. 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