Helga Zepp-Larouche

Click here for Full Issue of EIR Volume 19, Number 49, December 11, 1992 Interview: Helga Zepp-LaRouche Nations of the North must b in solidarity\\lith the South The following interview with Helga Zepp-LaRouche, presi Now, the reason why the same approach should be en dent of the Schiller Institute in Germany, was conducted larged, is that now that Germa y is unified, we need a broader by Nora Hamerman by phone on Dec. 3, shortly after a perspective. We are still patriots, but that cannot be just for conference in Kiedrich, Germany at which a new political ourselves-not for Germany alone-but if you look at the party, the Civil Rights Movement Solidarity, was founded. world crisis, the condition 0 the developing countries, the crisis in the East, it's very clear that Germany as an industrial EIR: In 1985, you catalyzed the founding of a movement power has a lot of what is nee�ed for the development of the called Patriots for Germany, dedicated to getting the Berlin Third World and the East. We are basically thinking like Wall demolished and Germany reunified. Later, the Patriots Friedrich Schiller, who said that each patriot has to be a good ran candidates for public office. Can you describe what you world citizen at the same time, and therefore, we have now think were the achievements of the Patriots, and why you initiated a citizens' Civil Rigpts Movement Solidarity, be believe a new framework is needed for intervening into Ger cause of the absolute need to show solidarity with those man politics today? countries which are now in crisis. It's exactly what the pope Zepp-LaRouche: Remember that in 1985, no one in Ger called for, that the rich countries of the North must show many thought that German unification would be a realistic solidarity with the poor countries of the South. goal. As a matter of fact, the late Willy Brandt [former chan So our new movement which we have initiated, merging cellor] called the perspective of unification, which is written the LaRouche movement and the Martin Luther King move in the German Constitution, "the lie of our lives." ment at the recent conferencei here in Germany, is based on If there was any possibility of German unification dis the idea of caritas and solidarity as the economic form of cussed at all, at best it would have meant that it would occur Christian agape. in a neutral framework, a kind of Finlandization. Against that, the Patriots for Germany were initiated, and if you read EIR: Founding a "Civil Rights Solidarity" movement in Eu the founding principles today, you will see that already then, rope is astounding, because there is no tradition of a civil we predicted that German unification could only take place rights struggle in Germany �omparable to the black civil if the Soviet Union would collapse economically, and col rights struggle led by Martip Luther King in the United lapse as a system. States. Can you explain how this very original idea evolved, Extremely important in this development, was the trip and describe some of the variohs forces who are collaborating my husband Lyndon LaRouche and I took in October 1988 to in it? Berlin, where Lyn predicted and proposed an early German Zepp-LaRouche: Well, that s not quite true. As a matter of unification because of the economic decay in the Soviet fact, there was something lik a civil rights movement, even Union, and proposed that the unified Germany should collab if in a different form, when the Prussian reformers around orate in a development plan for Poland, using western tech vom Stein and von Humboldt, introduced all the reforms in nology and industrial power to make Poland a model of simi Germany at the beginning 0 the 19th century which later lar developments of other East European countries. I, at the were fought for by the civil rights movement, i.e., the end same occasion, proposed that Berlin under these circum of slavery, the end of Knecht-schaft; and it was only due to stances should soon be the German capital. the reactionary Congress of ienna that that development In other words, we were the only ones thinking in terms was interrupted. 'II I of the collapse of the Soviet Union and German unification; It was exactly the fact that that spirit against slavery and that's why, when the peaceful revolutions occurred in was very alive among the German classical thinkers around I the fall of 1989, we were the only ones really prepared for Schiller, Humboldt, and the �russian reformers, and the in- this development, and we supported it through leaflets en fluence they had on the German population, which explains couraging the peaceful demonstrators to continue. We were why it was especially the Germans who were key in the fight later told by many, that that was an extremely important against slavery in the United States during the time of the intervention. Civil War, why the Germans supported Lincoln, and why 30 International EIR December 11, 1992 © 1992 EIR News Service Inc. All Rights Reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission strictly prohibited. they were totally against the philosophy of the Confederacy. in Bosnia and Croatia? It was that strong German influence in American politics Zepp-LaRouche: Today, unfortunately, if we look back to against which Teddy Roosevelt was deployed. 1989, one must say that Europe did miss its great historical So, there is a tradition linking that fightin Germany, with chance totally. that fight in the United States. It was Lyndon LaRouche who, tn 1989, when he pro When Lyndon LaRouche demanded that we must rebuild posed an economic infrastructure program for Europe, espe the civil rights movement, this occurred because both civil cially eastern Europe, correctly said tlhat Europe would meet rights and human rights in the United States are today in its historical chance only if it would ltam the lesson from the much worse shape than during the 1960s. If you look at the fact that not only communism had collapsed and therefore situation of the justice system, the absolute brutality with the economic theory of Karl Marx was discredited, but also which the death penalty is used as the legal version of what that the Anglo-American world was in a depression, and the Ku Klux Klan lynching policy used to be in the 1920s, if therefore the economic theory of Adam Smith and liberalism you look at the hardships caused by the economic depression, was equally discredited. He said thatiEurope had to return to then you see that a civil rights movement today is much more its own economic tradition of Leibnit, Alexander Hamilton, important, even in the United States, than in the 1960s. and Friedrich List, and especially to J!,ringits economic poli Then take the fact that the philosophy of the Confederacy cies into cohesion with Christian ptinciples, and that that today rules the United States, and not only domestically in would then be the basis for the definition of an industrial terms of justice and so forth, but also in terms of foreign policy for eastern Europe. policy; look at the Thornburgh Doctrine [authorizing the sei Now unfortunately, the Kohl government did not act on zure of foreign nationals abroad], which is basically the con this basis-in large part, I believe, �cause the key German tinuation of a Confederate philosophy toward the Third banker, AlfredHerrhausen, was assa$sinated because he pro World. posed quite similar policies for PolantI. There is now a heavy In addition to that, we are in a global depression. We are debate, both in German circles as well as in Italy, about the heading toward the biggest crisis, maybe not only of this cui bono of these murders, pointing to the Anglo-American century, but maybe of civilization in general. And if this geopolitical intentions. I crisis is accelerated through the ongoing global depression, As a result of this, the Kohl govttnment did not develop then the entire human race is threatened by a new Thirty an industrial policy for the East. Thby left the definition of Years' War. the economic policy entirely to the A�glo-Americans and the It is my conviction that we will only come out of this International Monetary Fund [IMF]. and that has led to the crisis if we establish a just, new world economic order, end present total collapse and catastropije looming in the East. oligarchism in all its forms, and end slavery on the planet Even in east Germany, this has led toitotal economic destruc once and for all. So, therefore, there is an urgent need not tion which indeed has created a sodial basis for these neo only to rebuild the civil rights movement in the United States, Nazi movements to grow. but internationally. And that's exactly what we have started However, I want to stress emph/t.tically, that despite the to do with the creation of this new movement in Germany. fact that, unfortunately, there are some neo-Nazis now in The Civil Rights Movement Solidarity is a movement for existence, this has been in large p� orchestrated by the Germany, but at the same time, we have created an interna Anglo-Americans-through the Ku Klux Klan in the United tional advisory board assembling many prominent personali States, which supplied the majority e>f the literature of these ties from Ibero-America, eastern Europe, the United States, groups; through the skinheads, whidh is a British phenome Africa, China, and many other places, to symbolize the inter non, not a German phenomenon-� it all smells very heav national character of this movement.

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