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COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA Official Committee Hansard SENATE ENVIRONMENT, COMMUNICATIONS, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND THE ARTS LEGISLATION COMMITTEE ESTIMATES (Budget Estimates) MONDAY, 23 MAY 2005 CANBERRA BY AUTHORITY OF THE SENATE INTERNET The Proof and Official Hansard transcripts of Senate committee hear- ings, some House of Representatives committee hearings and some joint committee hearings are available on the Internet. Some House of Representatives committees and some joint committees make avail- able only Official Hansard transcripts. The Internet address is: http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard To search the parliamentary database, go to: http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au Monday, 23 May 2005 Senate—Legislation ECITA 1 SENATE ENVIRONMENT, COMMUNICATIONS, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND THE ARTS LEGISLATION COMMITTEE Monday, 23 May 2005 Members: Senator Eggleston (Chair), Senator Lundy (Deputy Chair), Senators Bartlett, Con- roy, Santoro and Tchen Senators in attendance: Senators Allison, George Campbell, Conroy, Eggleston, Ferris, Lundy, Marshall, McLucas, Santoro and Tchen Committee met at 9.02 am COMMUNICATIONS, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND THE ARTS PORTFOLIO In Attendance Senator Coonan, Minister for Communications, Information Technology and the Arts Department of Communications, Information Technology and the Arts Executive Ms Helen Williams AO, Secretary Ms Fay Holthuyzen, Deputy Secretary, Communications Dr Rod Badger, Deputy Secretary, Information Economy Ms Lynn Bean, Acting Deputy Secretary, Arts and Sport Corporate and Business Mr Frank Nicholas, Chief Operating Officer, Corporate and Business Division Mr Mike Hutchings, General Manager, Information Technology and Facilities Branch Mr Tim Cornforth, Manager, Regional Network Management Unit Finance and Budgets Ms Jennifer Gale, Chief Financial Officer Telecommunications Mr Chris Cheah, Chief General Manager, Telecommunications Mr Simon Bryant, General Manager, Telecommunications Competition and Consumer Branch Mr Brenton Thomas, General Manager, Enterprise and Infrastructure Branch Ms Carolyn McNally, General Manager, Regional Communications Policy Branch Dr Greg Terrill, General Manager, International Branch Mr Tom Dale, General Manager, Strategic Policy Branch Broadcasting Mr James Cameron, Chief General Manager, Broadcasting Mr Gordon Neil, General Manager, Licensed Broadcasting Mr Rohan Buettel, General Manager, Public Broadcasting ENVIRONMENT, COMMUNICATIONS, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND THE ARTS ECITA 2 Senate—Legislation Monday, 23 May 2005 Dr Simon Pelling, General Manager, Digital Broadcasting and Spectrum Management Mr Tom Dale, General Manager, Strategic Policy Information and Communications Technology (ICT) Dr Beverly Hart, Chief General Manager, Information and Communications Technology Division Mr Philip Allnutt, General Manager, Information and Communications Technology Indus- try Branch Mr Simon Cordina, General Manager, Creators’ Rights and Access Branch Ms Andrea Grosvenor, Acting General Manager, Regional Communication Initiatives Branch Information Economy Mr Keith Besgrove, Chief General Manager, Information Economy Division Mr James Shaw, General Manager, Strategy Branch Mr Andrew Maurer, Manager, Online Policy Section Mr Lindsay Barton, Acting General Manager, Access Branch Arts and Sport Division Mr Colin Lyons, Acting Chief General Manager, Arts and Sport Division Mr Mark Taylor, General Manager, Arts, Regional and Governance Mr Peter Young, General Manager, Film and Digital Content Mr Paul McInnes, Acting General Manager, Collections Mr Kevin Isaacs, General Manager, Sport Ms Sally Basser, General Manager, Indigenous Arts and Training Mr Les Turner, General Manager, Indigenous Culture and Arts Support Ms Kate Cowie, General Manager, Old Parliament House Mr Andrew Sayers, Director, National Portrait Gallery Agencies Telst ra Mr Bill Scales AO, Group Managing Director, Regulatory, Corporate and Human Relations Mr Geoff Nicholson, Director, Business and Finance Services Mr Don Pinel, Regional Managing Director, Telstra Country Wide, Queensland Mr Denis Mullane, General Manager, Integrated Network Planning Ms Kate McKenzie, Managing Director, Regulatory Ms Chloe Munro, Managing Director, Human Resources Mr Greg Adcock, Head of Business and Commercial Operations Ms Jenny Young, Head, Consumer Segment Australia Post Mr Michael McCloskey, Corporate Secretary Mr Peter Meehan, Chief Financial Officer Mr Terry Sinclair, Group Manager, National Logistics Mr Rod McDonald, Group Manager, Human Resources Mr Stephen Walter, Group Manager, Corporate Public Affairs ENVIRONMENT, COMMUNICATIONS, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND THE ARTS Monday, 23 May 2005 Senate—Legislation ECITA 3 Mr Glenn O’Bryan, Acting Group Manager, Retail Australian Communications Authority (ACA) Dr Bob Horton, Acting Chairman Mr Allan Horsley, Acting Deputy Chairman Mr Geoff Luther, Acting Member Ms Maureen Cahill, Executive Manager, Communications Operations and Service Group Mr John Grant, Acting Senior Executive Manager, Radiocommunications Mr Mark Loney, Executive Manager, Corporate Management Mr John Neil, Executive Manager, Telecommunications Analysis Mr John Haydon, Executive Manager, Consumer Mr Darren Hooper, Chief Financial Officer Ms Anita Tapper, Acting Chief Financial Officer Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) Mr Russell Balding, Managing Director Mr Murray Green, Acting Director, Strategy and Communications Mr David Pendleton, Chief Operating Officer Mr Colin Knowles, Director, Technology and Distribution Ms Sue Howard, Director, ABC Radio Special Broadcasting Service Corporation (SBS) Mr Nigel Milan, Managing Director Ms Julie Eisenberg, Head of Policy Mr Jon Torpy, Chief Financial Officer Mr Will Berryman, Chief Technology Officer Mr Shaun Brown, Head of Television Mr Quang Luu, Head of Radio Australian Broadcasting Authority (ABA) Ms Lyn Maddock, Acting Chair Mr Giles Tanner, General Manager; Acting Member Mr Fred Gengaroli, Director, Planning Ms Jonquil Ritter, General Counsel Ms Andree Wright, Director, Industry Performance and Review Mr Richard Fraser, Senior Project Officer Ms Sharon Trotter, Acting Manager, Content Assessment Ms Andrea Malone, Manager, Industry Review Arts and Sport Australia Council Ms Jennifer Bott, Chief Executive Officer Ms Karilyn Brown, Executive Director, Audience and Market Development Dr Catherine Brown-Watt, Director, Major Performing Arts Board Ms Megan Coombs, Executive Director, Finance and Services ENVIRONMENT, COMMUNICATIONS, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND THE ARTS ECITA 4 Senate—Legislation Monday, 23 May 2005 National Library of Australia (NLA) Ms Jan Fullerton, Director-General Mr Gerry Linehan, Assistant Director-General, Corporate Services National Gallery of Australia (NGA) Mr Ron Radford, Director Mr Alan Froud, Deputy Director National Museum of Australia (NMA) Mr Craddock Morton, Director Ms Suzy Watson, General Manager, Operations Ms Louise Douglas, General Manager, Public Programs and Audience Development Dr Mike Pickering, Repatriation Program Director; Acting General Manager Mr Jeff Smart, Chief Finance Officer Australian National Maritime Museum Ms Mary-Louise Williams, Director Mr Quentin Howarth, Assistant Director National Archives of Australia (NAA) Mr Ross Gibbs, Director-General Mr James Barr, Deputy Director-General Ms Jenny Anderson, Assistant Director-General, Corporate Australian Film Finance Corporation (FFC) Mr Brian Rosen, Chief Executive Officer Australian Film Television Radio School (AFTRS) Mr Malcolm Long, Chief Executive Officer Film Australia (FAL) Ms Daryl Karp, Chief Executive Officer Australian Film Commission (AFC) Mr Kim Dalton, Chief Executive Officer Australian Sports Commission (ASC) Mr Mark Peters, Chief Executive Officer Mr Brent Espeland, General Manager, Sport Performance and Development Ms Lois Fordham, General Manager, Business Operations Professor Peter Fricker, Director, Australian Sports Commission Australian Sports Drug Agency (ASDA) Mr Kim Terrell, Acting Chief Executive Ms Anne Gripper, Acting General Manager, Operations Ms Catherine Rule, Acting General Manager, Strategy and Support CHAIR—I declare open this public hearing of the Senate Environment, Communications, Information Technology and the Arts Legislation Committee, which is considering the budget estimates for 2005-06. By resolutions of 17 November 2004, 10 February 2005 and 10 May 2005 the Senate has referred to the committee particulars of certain proposed expenditure in respect of the year ending 30 June 2006, particulars of proposed expenditure in respect of the year ending 30 June 2006, particulars of certain proposed supplementary expenditure for the ENVIRONMENT, COMMUNICATIONS, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND THE ARTS Monday, 23 May 2005 Senate—Legislation ECITA 5 year ending 30 June 2005 and particulars of proposed supplementary expenditure for the year ending 30 June 2005 for the two portfolios of Communications, Information Technology and the Arts and Environment and Heritage. We plan to examine the Communications, Information Technology and the Arts portfolio over the next three days and the Environment and Heritage portfolio on Thursday. The committee is required to report to the Senate on 20 June 2005. It has set a deadline of Friday, 5 August 2005 for the return of answers to questions placed on notice. I remind senators that the deadline for written questions to be placed on notice is by close of business this Friday. The committee notes that there are three answers still outstanding from previous estimates rounds for