HOUSE OF LORDS European Union Committee 10th Report of Session 2007–08 The Treaty of Lisbon: an impact assessment Volume II: Evidence Ordered to be printed 26 February 2008 and published 13 March 2008 Published by the Authority of the House of Lords London : The Stationery Office Limited £price HL Paper 62-II CONTENTS Page Sub-Committee A (Economic and Financial Affairs, and International Trade) Oral Evidence Ms Angela Eagle MP, Exchequer Secretary, Mr Peter Curwen, Director, Europe, Mr Andrew Olive, EU Policy Official, and Mr Stuart Glassborow, EU Policy Official, HM Treasury Oral evidence, 21 January 2008 A1 Sub-Committee B (Internal Market) Oral Evidence Mr Malcolm Harbour MEP Oral evidence, 3 December 2007 B1 Professor Michael Waterson and Simmons & Simmons Oral evidence, 10 December 2007 B8 European Commission Oral evidence, 13 December 2007 B16 Written Evidence Association of Electricity Producers B18 Business for New Europe B20 Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform B22 Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills B27 Sub-Committee C (Foreign Affairs, Defence and Development Policy) Oral Evidence Mr Graham Avery, Secretary General of the Trans European Policy Studies Association Oral evidence, 22 November 2007 C1 Mr Patrick Child, Head of Cabinet of the Commissioner for External Relations, Benita Ferrero-Waldner, RELEX Oral evidence, 23 November 2007 C10 Mr Andrew Mathewson, Directorate for Policy on International Organisations, Professor Phil Sutton, Director General, Research and Technology, and Captain Richard Stokes, Assistant Director, Defence Equipment Plan, Ministry of Defence Oral evidence, 29 November 2007 C12 Supplementary written evidence C12 Professor Alan Dashwood, Cambridge University, and Mr Charles Grant, Director, Centre for European Reform Oral evidence, 6 December 2007 C13 Written Evidence British Overseas NGOs for Development (BOND) C29 Sir Brian Crowe C30 Open Europe C32 Mr Nick Witney C39 Sub-Committee D (Environment and Agriculture) Oral Evidence Lord Rooker, Minister for Sustainable Farming and Food, and Animal Welfare Written evidence D1 Oral evidence, 16 January 2008 D3 Written Evidence Compassion in World Farming D12 Stavros Dimas, Environment Commissioner D12 Food Security D13 National Farmers’ Union D14 Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals D15 Scottish Fishermen’s Association D16 Sub-Committee E (Law and Institutions) Oral Evidence Professor Jo Shaw, University of Edinburgh Oral evidence, 14 November 2007 E1 Mr Tony Bunyan and Professor Steve Peers, Statewatch Oral evidence, 21 November 2007 E15 Professor Elspeth Guild and Mr Florian Geyer, Centre for European Policy Studies Oral evidence, 28 November 2007 E32 Mr Martin Howe QC Oral evidence, 5 December 2007 E49 Supplementary written evidence E62 Mr Stephen Hockman QC, Mr James Flynn QC and Professor Alan Dashwood, The Bar Council Oral evidence, 12 December 2007 E65 Mrs Claire-Françoise Durand, Acting Director-General and Dr Clemens Ladenburger, Commission Legal Services Oral evidence, 9 January 2008 E76 Ms Diana Wallis MEP, Mr Philip Bradbourn MEP, Mr Klaus-Heiner Lehne MEP, Mr Manuel Medina Ortega MEP, Baroness Ludford MEP and Mr Michael Cashman MEP Written evidence from Diana Wallis MEP E84 Oral evidence, 9 January 2008 E87 Ms Julia Bateman, Justice and Home Affairs Policy, Ms Jane Golding, EU Committee, The Law Society; and Mr Scott Crosby, partner at Crosby, Houben & Aps Written evidence E99 Oral evidence, 9 January 2008 E101 Supplementary written evidence E109 Rt Hon Jack Straw MP, Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice, Ms Rebecca Ellis, lawyer, Ministry of Justice, and Mr Kevan Norris, lawyer, Home Office Oral evidence, 16 January 2008 E110 Written Evidence Brethren Christian Fellowship E125 Centre for European Reform E125 Professor Damian Chalmers, London School of Economics and Political Science E127 DG Justice, Freedom and Security, European Commission E128 Mr Torquil Dick-Erikson E130 Mr Brendan Donnelly, Director of the Federal Trust E132 Mr Andrew Duff MEP E135 Professor Jacqueline Dutheil de la Rochère, University Paris II (Panthéon-Assas) E137 Sir David Edward, University of Edinburgh E141 EUROJUST E144 Fair Trials International E146 Ms Maria Fletcher, Lecturer in European Law, University of Glasgow E149 The Freedom Association E152 JUSTICE E154 Professor Maria Kaiafa-Gbandi, Aristotle University of Thessaloniki E157 The Law Society of Scotland E162 Dr Valsamis Mitsilegas, Queen Mary University of London E166 Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne MEP E169 Mrs Anne Palmer JP E170 Sub-Committee F (Home Affairs) Written Evidence Jim Murphy MP, Minister for Europe F1 Sub-Committee G (Social Policy and Consumer Affairs) Oral Evidence National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) Written evidence G1 Oral evidence, 17 January 2008 G2 Central Council of Physical Recreation (CCPR) Written evidence G9 Oral evidence, 17 January 2008 G11 Written Evidence British Olympic Association G16 Department for Culture, Media and Sport (1) G17 Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development G18 CBI G20 Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform G21 Department for Culture, Media and Sport (2) G23 Department of Health G24 Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills and Department for Children, Schools and Families G25 Department for Work and Pensions G26 Andrew Duff MEP G27 European Trade Union Confederation G29 Federation of Small Businesses G30 Monika Mura G32 Dr Richard Parrish G33 Dr Eve Sariyiannidou G34 Professor J R Shackleton G37 TUC G39 Select Committee Oral Evidence Mr John Palmer, formerly European editor of the Guardian and political director of the European Policy Centre and Professor Damian Chalmers, Professor in European Union Law, London School of Economics and Political Science Oral evidence, 20 November 2007 S1 Supplementary written evidence S13 Supplementary written evidence S16 Further supplementary written evidence S17 Mr David Heathcoat-Amory MP, Lord Leach of Fairford, Chairman of Open Europe and Mr Neil O’Brien, Director of Open Europe Oral evidence, 27 November 2007 S18 Professor Sir David Edward KCMG QC, Honorary Professor at the School of Law, University of Edinburgh Oral evidence, 6 December 2007 S35 Professor Helen Wallace CMG FBA, Centennial Professor, European Institute, London School of Economics and Political Science Oral evidence, 6 December 2007 S42 Sir Stephen Wall GCMG LVO, Vice-Chair, Business for New Europe Oral evidence, 13 December 2007 S51 Mr Jim Murphy MP, Minister for Europe, Ms Shan Morgan, Director, EU, Mr Paul Berman, Legal Adviser and Mr Martin Shearman, Head, Common Foreign and Security Policy Group, Foreign and Commonwealth Office Oral evidence, 19 December 2007 S63 Letter and supplementary evidence S78 Further supplementary written evidence S85 Mr Jens Nymand Christensen, Director of Directorate E of the Secretariat-General and Mr Pascal Lefevre, Secretariat-General, European Commission Oral evidence, 8 January 2008 S86 Mr Jo Leinen MEP, Chairman, European Parliament Committee on Constitutional Affairs; Mr Timothy Kirkhope MEP, Vice-Chairman, European Parliament Committee on Constitutional Affairs; Mr Richard Corbett MEP, Lisbon Treaty Rapporteur, European Parliament Committee on Constitutional Affairs; Mr Elmar Brok MEP, IGC Representative, European Parliament Committee on Constitutional Affairs Oral evidence, 8 January 2008 S95 Lord Brittan of Spennithorne QC DL Oral evidence, 10 January 2008 S108 Written Evidence D. Adams S119 Nicholas Atkinson S119 Mrs M. Boardman S120 Business for New Europe (BNE) S120 Campaign against Euro-federalism S123 Coalition for the Reform Treaty (CRT) S127 Sally DeBono S130 Brendan Donnelly, Director, Federal Trust S131 Andrew Duff MEP S134 European Parliamentary Labour Party (EPLP) S139 Federal Union S142 Professor Simon Hix, Professor of European and Comparative Politics, London School of Economics S144 Rt Hon Sir Francis Jacobs KCMG QC S147 Christopher Mowbray S150 National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) S150 Lord Pearson of Rannoch S151 Professor Steve Peers, University of Essex S151 Scottish Parliament’s European and External Relations Committee, Malcolm Chisholm MSP, Convenor of the Committee S156 Geoff Southall and Michael Clark, The Democratic Party Limited S157 Frank Vibert, Director, European Policy Forum S158 Margot Wallström, Vice-President of the European Commission S159 J. A. Wheatley S162 NOTE: The Report of the Committee is published in Volume I (HL Paper 62-I); the Evidence is published in Volume II (HL Paper 62-II) Processed: 06-03-2008 18:14:59 Page Layout: LOENEW[ex 1] PPSysB Job: 390949 Unit: PAG1 Minutes of Evidence TAKEN BEFORE THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE EUROPEAN UNION (SUB-COMMITTEE A) MONDAY 21 JANUARY 2008 Present Cohen of Pimlico, B (Chairman) Steinberg, L Giddens, L Trimble, L Kerr of Kinlochard, L Woolmer of Leeds, L Moser, L Examination of Witnesses Witnesses: Angela Eagle, a Member of the House of Commons, Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury, Mr Peter Curwen, Director, Europe, Mr Andrew Olive, EU Policy Official, and Mr Stuart Glassborow, EU Policy Official, HM Treasury, examined. Q1 Chairman: Welcome and thank you all very States. The Bill includes the safeguards we have much for coming. You know the form, we are on air negotiated to protect the national interest, the so- and, indeed, on television. I do not mean national called “red lines”. The Lisbon Treaty will enable the television, we are on the parliament