The 11th Meeting of the Traffic and Transport Committee (TTC) of the Kowloon City District Council Date : 13 July 2017 (Thursday) Time : 2:30 p.m. Venue : Conference Room, Kowloon City District Office Present: Chairman: Mr LUK King-kwong Vice-chairman: Ir Dr CHENG Lee-ming Members: The Hon LEE Wai-king, Starry, SBS, JP (Arrived at 3:05 p.m.) (left at 3:52 p.m.) Mr SIU Leong-sing (Left at 4:12 p.m.) Mr LAM Tak-shing Dr KWONG Po-yin Mr YUE Chee-wing, Admond Mr NG Po-keung (Arrived at 2:55 p.m.) Mr LAI Kwong-wai (Arrived at 3:05 p.m.) Ir CHEUNG Yan-hong, MH Mr KWAN Ho-yeung, Roger Mr LO Chiu-kit (Arrived at 2:45 p.m.) (Left at 4:25 p.m.) Mr YEUNG Chun-yu, Ronald Mr HO Hin-ming, BBS, MH Mr CHO Wui-hung Dr the Hon LEUNG Mei-fun, Priscilla, (Arrived at 4:42 p.m.) SBS, JP Mr NG Fan-kam, Tony Mr PUN Kwok-wah, JP Mr SIU Tin-hung, Terence Mr LAM Pok, Jimmy (Arrived at 5:25 p.m.) Mr YANG Wing-kit Mr HE Huahan Miss LEUNG Yuen-ting Mr TING Kin-wa (Arrived at 2:48 p.m.) Secretary: Miss YUEN Man-ki, Vicki Executive Officer (District Council) 1, Kowloon City District Office In Attendance: Mr IP Wai-kwong, Eddie Senior Executive Officer (District Council) (Atg), Kowloon City District Office Mr WONG Yee-kui Senior Transport Officer/Kowloon City, Transport Department Mr CHEUNG Chi-wa Engineer/Kowloon City, Transport Department Ms LEE Wing-chee, Joyce Engineer/Hung Hom, Transport Department Mr PO Yiu-wa Office-in-charge, Traffic Team (Kowloon City District), Hong Kong Police Force Mr HO Chi-kin Office-in-charge, Traffic Team (Sau Mau Ping District), Hong Kong Police Force Mr TAM Ho-chuen District Engineer/Hung Hom, Highways Department Mr CHUNG Siu-man District Engineer/ Kowloon City & Kowloon Bay, Highways Department Attendance by Invitation: Item 2 & 4 Ms Lilian YEUNG Public Relations Manager – External Affairs, MTR Corporation Limited Item 5 Miss SZE Suk-wai, Muriel Senior Transport Officer/Bus Restructuring and Projects, Transport Department Mr LEUNG Wang-cheong Principal Operations Officer, The Kowloon Motor Bus Company (1933) Limited Mr Luka LAI Planning & Development Officer, The Kowloon Motor Bus Company (1933) Limited Item 6 Mr LEUNG Wang-cheong Principal Operations Officer, The Kowloon Motor Bus Company (1933) Limited Mr Luka LAI Planning & Development Officer, The Kowloon Motor Bus Company (1933) Limited ＊ ＊ ＊ The Chairman of the Traffic and Transport Committee (TTC) welcomed Members, representatives of government departments and organizations to the meeting. The Chairman reminded Members to declare interests in accordance with the Kowloon City District Council Standing Orders (Standing Orders). He also said that if and when the number of Members present at the meeting was less than 12, he would adjourn the meeting according to Order 36(2) of Standing Orders. Lastly, he reminded attendees to turn off the ringers on their mobile phones or switch them to vibration mode, and remain silent during the meeting. 2. The Chairman said that Miss Tanna CHONG, Assistant District Officer of the Kowloon City District was unable to attend the meeting due to other duty commitment, and Mr Eddie IP of the Kowloon City District Office (KCDO) was in attendance on her behalf. Confirmation of Minutes of Last Meeting 3. The minutes of the 10th meeting were unanimously confirmed without amendment by the Committee. Matters Arising Request for Installing Self-service Machines for Fare Discount at Kai Tak Development Area Request for Installing Self-service Machines for Fare Discount at Areas near Lok Man Sun Chuen, Chatham Gate, Full Wing Building and The Laguna Mall (Paper Nos. 45/17, 52/17) 4. The Chairman said that as agenda item 2 of matters arising and new agenda item 4 were both related to installing MTR fare savers, it was suitable for them to be discussed together so that the meeting could be conducted smoothly. Members at the meeting agreed that the two items should be discussed together. 5. Ms Lilian YEUNG, Public Relations Manager – External Affairs of the MTR Corporation Limited (MTRCL) reported to the meeting the most recent situation of Members’ requesting the installation of fare savers at Kai Tak area. She said that new MTR Station and various community amenities would be installed in Kai Tak area in the future. At the current stage, Choi Hung Station was the nearest MTR Station for Kai Tak, which exceeded the distance standard for installing fare savers. However, with the development of Kai Tak area, the marketing department of MTRCL would closely monitor locations suitable for the installation of fare savers in the area. 6. Mr Jimmy LAM introduced Paper No. 52/17. 7. Mr Admond YUE opined that the opening of the Kwun Tong Line Extension (KTE) had been delayed for two years and residents of The Laguna Mall were affected. Thus he hoped that MTRCL would follow sound advice and install fare savers at The Laguna Mall to compensate residents affected. If necessary, he would be pleased to conduct an on-site inspection with representatives of MTRCL at The Laguna Mall to see if it was suitable for the installation of fare savers. 8. Mr HE Huahan’s opinions were consolidated as follows: (a) he was disappointed with MTRCL’s reply and he was not satisfied that MTRCL’s failure to provide information about the distance between fare savers and the nearest MTR Stations; (b) from the commercial point of view, there were more than 30 000 passengers in Kai Tak area using MTR. He believed that the installation of fare savers would increase MTRCL’s profits. As a major public enterprise, MTRCL should fulfill its social responsibility and share fares with Kai Tak residents. He hoped that MTRCL would proactively consider the installation of fare savers at Kai Tak area; and (c) he welcomed MTRCL to study the installation of fare savers in the district earnestly after the completion of Kai Tak Station. 9. Mr YANG Wing-kit pointed out that MTRCL replied that it would study the installation of fare savers in Kai Tak area. It did not respond to the installation of fare savers at other locations in the district that Members demanded many times in the past, such as Lok Man Sun Chuen. He hoped that MTRCL would be as pro-active in study the request. And he added that the walking distance from Lok Man Sun Chuen to Ho Man Tin Station would be approximately the same as walking from Ka Wai Chuen to Ho Man Tin Station. As such, he could not comprehend the reason that the shopping mall of Lok Man Sun Chuen not fulfilling the standard of installing fare savers. He hoped to invite the representatives of MTRCL to conduct on-site measurement of the above mentioned locations. 10. Mr CHO Wui-hung said that the transportation of Kai Tak area was not convenient, and MTR was one of the choices. However, the distance of walking to MTR Station was rather long and thus he hoped that MTRCL would install fare savers. And he added that the works of KTE had affected the transportation in the district and residents and shops along the line over the years. At present, the locations of the two fare savers made residents think that MTRCL favoured one more than another. In order to balance the benefits of the district’s residents, he proposed the installation of fare savers beside the entry gates of Whampoa Station and Ho Man Tin Station so that residents of both areas could be benefited. 11. Ms Lilian YEUNG of MTRCL made a consolidated reply as follows: (a) in order to provide convenience to residents and attract more new passengers to take MTR, MTRCL had altogether installed three fare savers after the extension of KTE to Ho Man Tin and Whampoa Station in the previous year; (b) the purpose of MTRCL’s installing fare savers was to attract residents whose residences were 500 to 600 metres away from MTR Station and encourage them to walk to the nearest MTR Station and turn to the service of MTR. As such, the location of installing fare savers could not be too close to or too far away from MTR Stations and consideration had to be given to whether there was adequate space and electricity supply etc.; (c) apart from Kai Tak area, MTRCL would also consider the installation of fare savers at other suitable places, including Lok Man Sun Chuen, Chatham Gate, Full Wing Building and The Laguna Mall etc.; (d) at present, the nearest MTR Station to Kai Tak area was Choi Hung Station, and the nearest MTR Station to Lok Man Sun Chuen was Ho Man Tin Station. The distance of both to MTR Station was far. In the future when new stations in the district were completed, MTRCL would study the new locations of installing fare savers in order to tie in with the completion of new stations and the development of the community; and (e) she was appreciative of Members’ continuous efforts to provide opinions about the location of fare savers. When the new stations were completed one after another, MTRCL would study in detail locations proposed by Members. 12. Mr Jimmy LAM said that the works of To Kwa Wan Station and Ma Tau Wai Station were delayed once and again. At present, residents could only use Ho Man Tin Station or Whampoa Station and it was rather inconvenient. Thus it was hoped that MTRCL would install fare savers at To Kwa Wan to compensate residents of the area.