Regional Oral History Office University of California The Bancroft Library Berkeley, California Redell Randle Rosie the Riveter World War II American Home Front Oral History Project This interview series was funded in part by a contract with the National Park Service, and with the support of individual donors. Interviews conducted by Sam Redman in 2011 Copyright © 2012 by The Regents of the University of California Since 1954 the Regional Oral History Office has been interviewing leading participants in or well-placed witnesses to major events in the development of Northern California, the West, and the nation. Oral History is a method of collecting historical information through tape-recorded interviews between a narrator with firsthand knowledge of historically significant events and a well-informed interviewer, with the goal of preserving substantive additions to the historical record. 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Redell Randle iv Table of Contents—Redell Randle Interview 1: February 7, 2011 [Audiofile 1] Birth in Louisiana, motivations for moving to California, father worked as a welder at Kaiser Shipyards, mother a homemaker, memories about growing up in the projects following his arrival in California, comparing life in the South to life in the West, description of Richmond during the war, thoughts on school and teachers, a lack of awareness about race among children growing up in Richmond during the war, feelings of patriotism and unity during the war, playing baseball with older men, experience of traveling to play baseball with other young men, watching and playing baseball in the East Bay during the post-war years, the relationship between athletics and education, work ethic and social etiquette of Southerners who migrated to California, move to Atchison Village, his brother’s boxing career and boxing in Richmond, supervisory role of other parents in the community, thoughts on moving to Atchison Village as it became desegregated, delivering newspapers, the Port Chicago disaster of 1944, his experiences in the US Army after being drafted into the service around the time of the Korean War, ideas about California shared by other men in the service, meeting women in the East Bay as a young man, and his experiences in the military with atomic weapons testing. [Audiofile 2] Experiences with atomic weapons testing continued, his lack of identification with the Civil Rights Movement, changes in the city of Richmond in terms of attitudes, respect levels, and social norms following his time in the armed forces. 1 Interview 1: February 7, 2011 Begin Audiofile 1 Redman: My name is Sam Redman, and I’m here today in Richmond for another interview for our World War II American Home Front Project. Can I ask you to tell me your full name? 1-00:00:16 Randle: Redell Randle. Redman: The spelling of the last name is R A N D L E, is that correct? 1-00:00:21 Randle: Correct. Redman: Redell, where were you born? 1-00:00:23 Randle: Alexandria, Louisiana. Redman: How long did you live there in Louisiana? 1-00:00:32 Randle: Until I was five. Redman: Do you have some very early memories of Louisiana, do you remember that? 1-00:00:45 Randle: Oh, yeah. Redman: Tell me about what that was like. What are some of the memories that you have of—? 1-00:00:52 Randle: Swamps, crawfishing, picking cotton, floating on logs, swimming in the Red River with a rope. Redman: So a lot of early memories of the landscape and what things look like, and so your parents were sharecroppers, is that correct? 1-00:01:09 Randle: No. Redman: They owned their own—? 1-00:01:11 Randle: I’m not sure. Redman: But you know they picked cotton, but you’re not as sure exactly what they—? 2 1-00:01:18 Randle: No. Redman: Do you know what brought them out to California? 1-00:01:22 Randle: The economy. Redman: The economy? 1-00:01:26 Randle: Shipyard work. Redman: So they found work at Kaiser. 1-00:01:30 Randle: Yes, Kaiser Shipyard. Redman: Did your father or mother or both find work? 1-00:01:35 Randle: Just my father. Redman: What was he doing at the Kaiser shipyards? 1-00:01:38 Randle: Welding. Redman: Do you know if he took classes? 1-00:01:40 Randle: No. He didn’t take any classes. They taught him. Redman: Then what did your mother do? 1-00:01:48 Randle: Nothing, housewife. Redman: Housewife? All right. Did you have any siblings? 1-00:01:52 Randle: A brother. Redman: How old was he? 1-00:01:57 Randle: He was younger. Redman: Younger than you, okay. Tell me about what it was like for you to move to California. Do you recall that at all? 3 1-00:02:04 Randle: Oh, yeah. Redman: What do you remember about that? 1-00:02:05 Randle: I remember getting on the train with a tag on, and the conductors and the porters looked after us from Louisiana to Richmond, Santa Fe Train Station. Redman: So they dropped you off right here in Richmond, is that right? 1-00:02:20 Randle: Yes. Redman: Do you know how your dad found out about work being available, because there were a lot of people coming from the South to this area at the time. 1-00:02:33 Randle: Just migrating. Redman: Do you have memories of a lot of people moving, or did it sort of feel like wow, this is my family—? 1-00:02:40 Randle: I don’t remember that era. Redman: What was it like to grow up, so your family arrived, did they arrive, they moved into somewhere in Richmond, but not this neighborhood. 1-00:02:50 Randle: Right. Redman: Where did they move in Richmond? 1-00:02:58 Randle: The canal, down there where all those buildings are, that was our projects. Redman: All right, and do you remember growing up in that—? 1-00:03:05 Randle: Yes. Redman: What was that like? 1-00:03:05 Randle: Fun. Redman: What was fun about it, because there were other young kids? 4 1-00:03:10 Randle: Well, there was a lot of young kids; we had a lot to do. We’d climb mountains, we’d swim out in the bay, we skated, we worked shining shoes. A lot of things to do to keep us busy. Redman: There were a lot of opportunities and— 1-00:03:27 Randle: Yes. Redman: Do you remember what a typical day was like for your parents when you were a kid, like they would wake up in the morning and your father would go to work. 1-00:03:44 Randle: Well, he’d be gone when we get up. We would just wake us up and go to school. I went to Washington Elementary School down in the point, so we don’t haven’t had a clue. Redman: Then your mother would take care of a lot of the chores around the house. 1-00:04:01 Randle: Right. Redman: Did your father work the normal day shift at the Kaiser Shipyards, or do you recall him switching shifts at all, or—? 1-00:04:12 Randle: I don’t remember. Redman: Did he seem to like his work, did he seem—? 1-00:04:16 Randle: Well, there was so much going on to survive, no one had no problems. You worked, that’s it. You had an obligation, and that was it. Redman: Did he sort of, do you recall the start of the war? 1-00:04:35 Randle: Yes. Redman: What do you remember about that? Were you still in Louisiana at the time? 1-00:04:39 Randle: No, I was out, come out here. It was just beginning to end. Redman: Alright, and tell me about what you remember about the early years of the war, the start of the war. 5 1-00:04:48 Randle: I remember in Louisiana I used to get pea coats and go and put candy and sell it to the soldiers.