VOLUME 133 NUMBER 1777 1st SESSION 35th PARLIAMENT OFFICIAL REPORT (HANSARD) Monday, March 27, 1995 Speaker: The Honourable Gilbert Parent HOUSE OF COMMONS Monday, March 27, 1995 The House met at 11 a.m. separatists, members of the FLQ and the cause of sovereignty in Quebec. They implied—and so did several members of the _______________ Liberal Party, this being the argument of our federalist oppo- nents—that such organizations were part of the same camp as all Prayers the pro–sovereignty groups and individuals who have been _______________ supporting the cause using democratic means for over 25 years; I am referring naturally to the Parti Quebecois and its predeces- sors, the RIN and RN, and to the Bloc Quebecois, which has only PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BUSINESS been on the scene for the past few years. [Translation] I would first like to state loud and clear that no sovereignist, no official spokesperson of the democratic sovereignist move- WAR MEASURES ACT ment, has never even considered supporting, in any way what- Mr. Maurice Bernier (Mégantic—Compton—Stanstead, soever, the criminal acts committed by certain individual BQ) moved: members of the FLQ. On the contrary, in 1970, just days after the assassination of Pierre Laporte and the imposition of war That, in the opinion of this House, the government should immediately make an official public apology, accompanied by financial compensation, to the measures, representatives from all sectors of Quebec society hundreds of citizens of Quebec who were victims of arbitrary arrest and denounced these actions, especially the late René Lévesque, unjustified detention during the enforcement of the War Measures Act in the leader of the Parti Quebecois at the time. Making this distinction early ’70s. is important because the individuals who perpetrated the crimes He said: Mr. Speaker, it is with some emotion, not to say very assumed the consequences, were judged, sentenced and have strong emotion, that I rise in this House today to recall tragic paid their dues to society. events in the memories of Quebecers, involving individuals and the exercise of democracy in the 1970s. I will also be referring, I would first like to demonstrate the impact these incidents, in in the course of this motion, to actions and events that continue particular the enforcement of war measures, have had on the today. lives of many fellow Quebecers and on our collective democra- cy in general. You have just read, Mr. Speaker, the motion that I tabled on October 5, 1994 in this House, which, in brief, has two objec- In 1970, I was a member of the Parti Quebecois, and still am, tives: to put the record straight with regard to the October and back then, I was garnering support in the riding of Fronte- events, in particular the imposition of war measures, and to nac, a rural riding in which Lac–Mégantic was the biggest town recognize the victims of the imposition of the War Measures at the time. I was working for the Parti Quebecois. We had just Act, on the one hand, and on the other, to disassociate the been through our first election, on April 29, 1970. Please bear in sovereignist movement from the unfortunate events of the time mind that back then being a member of the Parti Quebecois was initiated by members of the FLQ. I refer, naturally to the death not easy in that kind of a community, a community that I respect of Pierre Laporte in 1970. and which was adamantly against all ‘‘ists’’: communists, separatists, socialists, péquistes. It was not easy garnering Why are we making this motion in the House today? First, I support democratically for the sovereignty cause in such a repeat that it was tabled in October 1994, at the time of the context. release of the movie ‘‘Octobre’’ by director Pierre Falardeau, depicting the days leading up to the death of Pierre Laporte. This When Mr. Pierre Laporte was assassinated, it struck a disso- film was subsidized in part by the National Film Board, if I am nant chord within me, I was bowled over, indignant, frightened. not mistaken, and aroused the indignation and ire of some of my hon. colleagues in the Reform Party and in the Liberal Party in (1110) this House. In my heart of hearts, I did not feel that the cause I was What did my hon. colleagues say? I refer simply to the fighting for justified killing a man in order to achieve our goal. remarks of the Reform member for Calgary Southeast, who, in Like hundreds of thousands of my fellow citizens, I was and still her criticism of the funding of Mr. Falardeau’s film, linked am convinced that this should be accomplished in a democratic 11029 COMMONS DEBATES March 27, 1995 Private Members’ Business fashion. That is why we, sovereignists, will not allow anyone to of Quebec the assurance that every effort will be made to ensure question our desire to act democratically. that a democratic debate can take place, without the secret services or CSIS attempting to manipulate public opinion in Quebec. Second, I wish to point out that I was even more staggered and even sickened when, a few years after the October 1970 events and the imposition of the War Measures Act, I realized—like all Some hon. members: Hear, hear. of Quebec—that the federal government of the day, of which the current Prime Minister was a member, used the unconscionable Mr. Bernier: I would like to take the few minutes remaining acts of a few individuals to plan what can be called a political to emphasize that such activities went on after the War Measures coup intended to destabilize the sovereignist movement. Act was repealed, activities of the Canadian Security Intelli- gence Agency (CSIS) which, I repeat, are known, having been brought to light by a number of inquiries, such as the Keable I hear my colleague from the Reform Party groaning. I would Commission in Quebec, which uncovered a whole string of ask him to show a little respect and forbearance. He will be able illegal acts committed by various individuals linked to the to speak after I have concluded. I am expressing what thousands Canadian secret service. The Macdonald Commission of Inquiry of Quebecers felt at the time. They were mistreated and felt also uncovered many illegal activities by RCMP officers. betrayed by the federal government, when they realized that it was all just a political plot. In 1969, long before the October I would also like to show how such activities affected the lives 1970 events, discussions about these groups of individuals of these citizens. Just take the case of this man, a respectable acting illegally in Quebec were held at the highest level of Montreal lawyer by the name of Pierre Cloutier, who was government, also known as the cabinet. They knew that these investigated by the RCMP without his knowledge. Mr. Cloutier groups existed and surely knew who their members were, but was under RCMP supervision for 11 years. What does Mr. were careful not to intervene. They waited for the right moment Cloutier do for a living? This gentleman is a respected lawyer to impose the War Measures Act. who was never accused of any wrongdoing and who acts as arbitrator in Quebec labour conflicts. For some ten years, After this act was imposed, hundreds of people were arrested employers and unions have called on him to settle their disputes. and detained illegally, without any charges being laid against His credibility therefore is unimpeachable. Again, because Mr. them. I would like to quote a few figures and I would ask all my Cloutier was somehow connected with individuals who were colleagues to pay attention. It is not only two or three people involved in the FLQ, or because he is still active in the who were arrested, but more than 500. Five hundred people were sovereignty movement, the RCMP secretly followed him for 11 arrested and detained, in some cases for a few weeks, without years, from 1970 to 1981. any charges being laid against them either during the October events or afterwards. An hon. member: This is a shame. There were 4,600 cases of search and seizure were carried out Mr. Bernier: When Mr. Cloutier asked to see his file, what throughout Quebec. The police entered private homes for all did he find? First, he found a file which is 1,500 pages thick. kinds of reasons, conducting searches and frightening ordinary people. Some 31,700 searches were carried out. These figures, (1120) in my opinion, demonstrate the significant consequences of imposing the War Measures Act. This act was enforced twice in Just imagine: fifteen hundred pages on a single individual Canada, the first time in 1918 and the second time during the who never ran into any trouble with the law. Moreover, 1,000 of October events. these pages are censored. This is the work of institutions which monitor the activity of sovereignists who want to act in full compliance with the democratic process. We all remember the (1115) case of an individual arrested in 1970, and his wife too. I am referring to Mr. Gérald Godin and Mrs. Pauline Julien. We all I would just like to come back to another point, namely the know about the illegal and criminal activities of Mr. Godin: he fact that this is still going on today. Our friends from the Reform was a member of Quebec’s National Assembly, and a Quebec Party should pay particular attention to what I am about to say.