AUTHORIZING THE TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION FOR FISCAL YEARS 2012 AND 2013 HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION SECURITY OF THE COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED TWELFTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION JUNE 2, 2011 and JULY 12, 2011 Serial No. 112–28 Printed for the use of the Committee on Homeland Security Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/ U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 72–238 PDF WASHINGTON : 2012 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512–1800; DC area (202) 512–1800 Fax: (202) 512–2250 Mail: Stop SSOP, Washington, DC 20402–0001 COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY PETER T. KING, New York, Chairman LAMAR SMITH, Texas BENNIE G. THOMPSON, Mississippi DANIEL E. LUNGREN, California LORETTA SANCHEZ, California MIKE ROGERS, Alabama SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas MICHAEL T. MCCAUL, Texas HENRY CUELLAR, Texas GUS M. BILIRAKIS, Florida YVETTE D. CLARKE, New York PAUL C. BROUN, Georgia LAURA RICHARDSON, California CANDICE S. MILLER, Michigan DANNY K. DAVIS, Illinois TIM WALBERG, Michigan BRIAN HIGGINS, New York CHIP CRAVAACK, Minnesota JACKIE SPEIER, California JOE WALSH, Illinois CEDRIC L. RICHMOND, Louisiana PATRICK MEEHAN, Pennsylvania HANSEN CLARKE, Michigan BEN QUAYLE, Arizona WILLIAM R. KEATING, Massachusetts SCOTT RIGELL, Virginia KATHLEEN C. HOCHUL, New York BILLY LONG, Missouri VACANCY JEFF DUNCAN, South Carolina TOM MARINO, Pennsylvania BLAKE FARENTHOLD, Texas MO BROOKS, Alabama MICHAEL J. RUSSELL, Staff Director/Chief Counsel KERRY ANN WATKINS, Senior Policy Director MICHAEL S. TWINCHEK, Chief Clerk I. LANIER AVANT, Minority Staff Director SUBCOMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION SECURITY MIKE ROGERS, Alabama, Chairman DANIEL E. LUNGREN, California SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas TIM WALBERG, Michigan DANNY K. DAVIS, Illinois CHIP CRAVAACK, Minnesota JACKIE SPEIER, California JOE WALSH, Illinois, Vice Chair CEDRIC L. RICHMOND, Louisiana MO BROOKS, Alabama BENNIE G. THOMPSON, Mississippi (Ex Officio) PETER T. KING, New York (Ex Officio) AMANDA PARIKH, Staff Director NATALIE NIXON, Deputy Chief Clerk THOMAS MCDANIELS, Minority Subcommittee Director (II) C O N T E N T S Page THURSDAY, JUNE 2, 2011 STATEMENT The Honorable Mike Rogers, a Representative in Congress From the State of Alabama, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Transportation Security ......... 1 WITNESS Mr. John S. Pistole, Administrator, Transportation Security Administration, U.S. Department of Homeland Security: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 2 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 4 APPENDIX Questions From Chairman Mike Rogers of Alabama for John S. Pistole ........... 29 Questions From Ranking Member Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas for John S. Pistole ............................................................................................................... 33 TUESDAY, JULY 12, 2011 STATEMENTS The Honorable Mike Rogers, a Representative in Congress From the State of Alabama, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Transportation Security ......... 49 The Honorable Sheila Jackson Lee, a Representative in Congress From the State of Texas, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Transportation Security ................................................................................................................. 50 WITNESSES PANEL I Mr. Thomas L. Farmer, Assistant Vice President for Security, Safety, and Operations, Association of American Railroads: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 63 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 65 Mr. Martin Rojas, Vice President for Security and Operations, American Trucking Association: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 70 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 72 Ms. Wanda Y. Dunham, Assistant General Manager and Chief of Police and Emergency Management, Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Author- ity: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 76 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 78 Mr. Raymond J. Reese, Corporate Health, Safety, and Security Leader, Colo- nial Pipeline Company, On Behalf of The Association of Oil Pipe Lines and the American Petroleum Institute: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 80 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 81 (III) IV Page Mr. John Risch, III, Alternate National Legislative Director, United Transpor- tation Union: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 85 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 87 PANEL II Mr. Nicholas E. Calio, President and Chief Executive Officer, Air Transport Association of America, Inc.: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 102 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 104 Mr. Mark Van Tine, President and Chief Executive Officer, Jeppesen, On Behalf of the General Aviation Manufacturers Association: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 107 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 108 Mr. Stephen A. Alterman, President, Cargo Airline Association: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 113 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 114 Mr. Christopher Witkowski, Director of Air Safety, Health, and Security, Association of Flight Attendants—CWA, AFL–CIO: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 117 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 119 FOR THE RECORD The Honorable Mike Rogers, a Representative in Congress From the State of Alabama, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Transportation Security: Letter From the Airforwarders Association ....................................................... 53 Statement of the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association ................................ 55 Letter From the Air Line Pilots Association, International ............................. 57 Statement of the National Air Carrier Association ........................................... 59 Letter From R. Bruce Josten, Executive Vice President, Government Af- fairs, Chamber of Commerce of the United States of America ..................... 61 The Honorable Sheila Jackson Lee, a Representative in Congress From the State of Texas, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Transportation Security: List, ‘‘2011 In-Flight Incidents Involving Flight Attendants’’ .......................... 51 APPENDIX Questions From Chairman Mike Rogers for Thomas L. Farmer ......................... 131 Questions From Ranking Member Sheila Jackson Lee for Thomas L. Farmer .................................................................................................................. 131 Questions From Ranking Member Sheila Jackson Lee for Martin Rojas ........... 131 Question From Chairman Mike Rogers for Wanda Y. Dunham .......................... 132 Questions From Ranking Member Sheila Jackson Lee for Wanda Y. Dunham ................................................................................................................ 132 Questions From Ranking Member Sheila Jackson Lee for Raymond Reese ...... 132 Questions From Ranking Member Sheila Jackson Lee for John Risch, III ........ 132 Questions From Ranking Member Sheila Jackson Lee for Nicholas E. Calio .... 133 Questions From Chairman Mike Rogers for Mark Van Tine ............................... 133 Questions From Chairman Mike Rogers for Stephen A. Alterman ..................... 133 Questions From Ranking Member Sheila Jackson Lee for Christopher Witkowski ............................................................................................................. 133 AUTHORIZING THE TRANSPORTATION SECU- RITY ADMINISTRATION FOR FISCAL YEARS 2012 AND 2013 Thursday, June 2, 2011 U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SUBCOMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION SECURITY, COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY, Washington, DC. The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 4:03 p.m., in Room 311, Cannon House Office Building, Hon. Mike Rogers [Chairman of the subcommittee] presiding. Present: Representatives Rogers, Walberg, Cravaack, Jackson Lee, and Davis. Mr. ROGERS. I would like to welcome everybody to this hearing and thank our witnesses for being here. The purpose of this hearing is to discuss priorities for author- izing TSA to carry out its mission to keep America’s