etc. Irish Extra Mostly sunny and very cool Makeba preview today. High in the middle 50s. Notre Dame Clear tonight. Low in the mid at Pitt 'Punchline' review 30s. Cool tomorrow with a high VOL. XXII, NO. 34 FRIDAY, OCTOBER 7, 1988 . the independent newspaper serving Notre Dame and Saint Mary's Pozner, Donahue talk on U.S./Soviet relations Pozner: U.S. Donahue: and U.S.S.R. U.S.S.R. has are 'condemned changed to coexist' significantly By CHRIS DONNELLY By CHRIS DONNELLY MATT GALLAGHER MATT GALLAGHER Senior Staff Reporters Senior Staff Reporters The following is the transcript of an The following is the transcript of an exclusive interview with Soviet jour­ exclusive The Observer conducted with nalist Vladimir Pozner, conducted Phil Donahue shortly before his discus­ before his televised discussion with Phil sion with Soviet journalist Vladimir Donahue. Pozner. The Observer: How do you think The Observer: How do you feel U .S.!Soviet . relations have chahged U.S.!Soviet relations have changed since you began these forums? since you began these forums a few Vladimir Pozner: There has been a years ago? dramatic change over the past two and Phil Donahue: Well, two years ago a half years. When I began addressing when we did our first space bridge .,~ ~-tt*~ \., -6-v~~~ ~• I Amencans m 1980, we were m full con­ nobody believed Glastnost. (They frontation. When I came to the U.S. and thought) it's another Russian trick, the met people here, I found fear, even whole audience will be made up of hatred and certainly very little sympa­ The Observer I Rob Regovich KGB; they'll rig the audience. It was thy for what was happening in the So­ Phil Donahue of the U.S. and Vladimir Pozner of the U.S.S.R. stand during the playing of apparent to us. We were worried about viet Union. I think the change relates their respective national anthems last night during their appearance at the JACC. that too. I didn't want it to look like we very directly to the changes that have had been duped. I'm proud too. happened in the Soviet Union -the So we sent our people over there. We changes that seem to be Gorbachev's Willingness to learn essential brought our own interpreters, and we changes. went up to people on the street (and Today in America there is an enor­ By REGIS COCCIA to question what you have always felt asked), 'Do you want to be involved in mous interest in the USSR even com­ Senior Staff Reporter was right," Pozner said. a U.S .!Soviet (discussion) ? ' Older pared to last year. The questions I get "To a great extent that's what we're people said 'no', but most of the at press conferences and during lec­ Willingness to change traditional at­ doing today," he said, noting the new younger people said 'yes' and then we tures seem to be more knowledgeable titudes and understand each other are Soviet policies of perestroika started. questions. I see a pretty positive kind keys to U.S.-Soviet relations, talk show (restructuring) and glasnost of change. host Phil Donahue and Soviet commen­ (openness). "It's a great painful Every criticism we leveled at them tator Vladimir Pozner told an audience process and it includes our attitude during the debate aired in the Soviet The Observer: As a private citizen last night in Notre Dame's JACC. toward the United States. Union. We asked about: Sakarov, who how do you feel these changes of Gor­ Both men received standing ovations "Without that kind of painful honesty, at the time was still in Gorky; Afghanis­ bachev will be lasting changes? Do you for their remarks on improving rela­ it's just about impossible, I think, to tan; Poland; KAL (the downed Korean think the framework is in place? tions between the two superpowers. hope for a better future," Pozner said. jetliner) . It all survived. Nothing was Pozner: That's very hard to say. I Each stressed the need to change old "My message to you is I hope you cut out. We really believed it. Now, two find it difficult to look that far ahead. attitudes and think about the future. have the desire, the concern and the years later, more and more people I think that deep down inside both "If there's anything important in the strength to reassess what you have believe it. This is real. We don't know world, it's to question what you have see POZNER, page 7 always thought to be unquestionable, see DISCUSS, page 7 see DONAHUE, page 8 Saint Mary's Senior Father·Daughter Weekend Father/Daughter Schedule of Events Weekend commences Friday, October 7 9:00·10:00 a.m. By JENNIFER WOLK She also feels this will bring the Late Registration, LeMans Hall Lobby News Staff seniors closer together with 4:00-6:00 p.m. Noon-1 :50 p.m. their class and with their fat­ Registration in LeMans Hall Lobby Picnic Lunch, Haggar Terrace-Parlor The Saint Mary's College hers. 8:00p.m. 2:00·3:00 p.m. sixth annual Senior Fa­ Jennifer Burke, who coor­ NOOMC Theater presents "Antigone" in Career Exchange in Stapleton Lounge, LeMans ther!Daughter Weekend com­ dinated the Liturgical Service for Sunday, arranged to have 3:00p.m. mences today with registration O'Laughlin Auditorium from 4:00-6:00 p.m. The only members of the senior 9:00-11:00 p.m. University of Notre Dame vs Pitt large screen weekend will officially kick off class participate in the choir Cocktail Party in Stapleton Lounge, LeMans Hall televisions, Haggar Parlor and Game Room with a cocktail party at 9:00 and folk group. Katy feels that 9:00-Midnight p.m. in Stapleton Lounge. events such as this will make Saturday, October 8 Casino Night, Angela Athleti9 Facility SMC According to Katy Burns, the weekend a special one for head coordinator for the everyone to remember. She 8:00a.m. weekend, "This will be a also said that there will be 255 Golf Tournament, NO Golf Course Sunday, October 9 weekend for fathers and fathers attending this weekend 9:00a.m. daughters to get together, to which is a higher turnout than they have had in past years. Tennis Tournament, Angela Athletic Facility 9:00·10:30 a.m. spend some time without dis­ tractions and to enjoy each "Everyone has gone out of SMC Continental Breakfast, Clubhouse other's company. I really want their way to help plan this 9:00a.m. 10:30 a.m. people to take home some good weekend. I know it is going to 5-K Run, Angela Athletic Facility SMC Celebration of the Liturgy, Church of Loretto memories when they leave." be special," concludes Katy. page2 The Observer IN BRIEF INSIDE COLUMN Derrick C. Benn, son of Clyde Benn and Janice Benn of Midwest City, OK has been awarded a $1000 scholarship No-class Miami 'Canes by the National Science Foundation through NSF's Minority Graduate Fellowship Program. Bennis a junior, majoring in Mathematics. Benn said, "I'm glad for NSF's need Irish education encouragement. I just wish every kid could get that kind Nobody is going to miss the game in Notre of support." Dame Stadium next weekend, but a lot of people Regis have missed the point when it comes to battling Coccia Two gay Indiana inmates who petitioned the court archrival Miami. to be married have been fined $2,800 by a Hendricks Circuit The bottom line in potentially the biggest col­ Court judge for wasting court time and misrepresenting lege football game this year is : respect -- you News Editor the law. Phillip Shroyer, 30, and Todd Reed, 20, are in­ get it by earning it. The University of Miami's football players mates at the Indiana Department of Correction medium ML& security prison in Plainfield. Shroyer is serving a 20-year have a bad reputation for showing no class on term for robbery. Reed is serving a 15-year burglary term. the playing field. They proved it when the Fight­ They claimed a constitutional right to be married, al­ ing Irish played them last year. I know; I was though Indiana law prohibits marriages of two men or two there. women. The Hurricanes exhibited cockiness unbe­ coming for any athletes. Remarks to downed players about their mothers are truly tasteless. Head Coach Jimmy Johnson is notorious for run­ OFINTEREST · ning up scores when the game is clearly uncon­ tested. Seniors meet at Pep Rally at Pitt at Station Square at Miami's football fans are equally obnoxious. 7 p.m. tonight, at Mario'sBlue Lov's on South Side after It was uncomfortable enough watching Notre Pep Rally, and at Permanies at midnight. For more in­ Dame lose miserably last year in the Orange formation, inquire at Senior Class Office. -The Observer Bowl, but insults weren't warranted. This gives people here the idea they should JPW Executive Committee is now accepting hate Miami. That's very understandable. But I applications from all juniors. Applications available in can't understand why Notre Dame students and Office of Student Activities, 3rd floor LaFortune Student fans should feel they must imitate Miami's Center or from Chris Boron in 241 Pasquerilla West. Due team to beat it. Friday, October 14th. -The Observer The anti-Miami t-shirt campaign on campus recently has been feverish enough to put our suits. And they don't have to respect us for ours.