Third Session – Forty-Second Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Myrna Driedger Speaker Vol. LXXV No. 48 - 1:30 p.m., Tuesday, April 13, 2021 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Forty-Second Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ADAMS, Danielle Thompson NDP ALTOMARE, Nello Transcona NDP ASAGWARA, Uzoma Union Station NDP BRAR, Diljeet Burrows NDP BUSHIE, Ian Keewatinook NDP CLARKE, Eileen, Hon. Agassiz PC COX, Cathy, Hon. Kildonan-River East PC CULLEN, Cliff, Hon. Spruce Woods PC DRIEDGER, Myrna, Hon. Roblin PC EICHLER, Ralph, Hon. Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne, Hon. Lac du Bonnet PC FIELDING, Scott, Hon. Kirkfield Park PC FONTAINE, Nahanni St. Johns NDP FRIESEN, Cameron, Hon. Morden-Winkler PC GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin, Hon. Steinbach PC GORDON, Audrey, Hon. Southdale PC GUENTER, Josh Borderland PC GUILLEMARD, Sarah, Hon. Fort Richmond PC HELWER, Reg, Hon. Brandon West PC ISLEIFSON, Len Brandon East PC JOHNSON, Derek, Hon. Interlake-Gimli PC JOHNSTON, Scott Assiniboia PC KINEW, Wab Fort Rouge NDP LAGASSÉ, Bob Dawson Trail PC LAGIMODIERE, Alan Selkirk PC LAMONT, Dougald St. Boniface Lib. LAMOUREUX, Cindy Tyndall Park Lib. LATHLIN, Amanda The Pas-Kameesak NDP LINDSEY, Tom Flin Flon NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Malaya Notre Dame NDP MARTIN, Shannon McPhillips PC MICHALESKI, Brad Dauphin PC MICKLEFIELD, Andrew Rossmere PC MORLEY-LECOMTE, Janice Seine River PC MOSES, Jamie St. Vital NDP NAYLOR, Lisa Wolseley NDP NESBITT, Greg Riding Mountain PC PALLISTER, Brian, Hon. Fort Whyte PC PEDERSEN, Blaine, Hon. Midland PC PIWNIUK, Doyle Turtle Mountain PC REYES, Jon Waverley PC SALA, Adrien St. James NDP SANDHU, Mintu The Maples NDP SCHULER, Ron, Hon. Springfield-Ritchot PC SMITH, Andrew Lagimodière PC SMITH, Bernadette Point Douglas NDP SMOOK, Dennis La Vérendrye PC SQUIRES, Rochelle, Hon. Riel PC STEFANSON, Heather, Hon. Tuxedo PC TEITSMA, James Radisson PC WASYLIW, Mark Fort Garry NDP WHARTON, Jeff, Hon. Red River North PC WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WISHART, Ian Portage la Prairie PC WOWCHUK, Rick Swan River PC 2347 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Tuesday, April 13, 2021 The House met at 1:30 p.m. • Bill (No. 18) – The Workers Compensation Amendment Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur les Madam Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, from Whom all power and wisdom come, we are assembled accidents du travail here before Thee to frame such laws as may tend to Committee Membership the welfare and prosperity of our province. Grant, O merciful God, we pray Thee, that we may desire only • Hon. Mr. FIELDING that which is in accordance with Thy will, that we may • Hon. Mrs. GUILLEMARD seek it with wisdom and know it with certainty and • Mr. LINDSEY accomplish it perfectly for the glory and honour of • Mr. REYES (Chairperson) Thy name and for the welfare of all our people. Amen. • Mr. WASYLIW Please be seated. Good afternoon, everybody. • Mr. WISHART ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS Your Committee elected Mr. WISHART as the Madam Speaker: Introduction of bills? Vice-Chairperson. COMMITTEE REPORTS Non-Committee Members Speaking on Record Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs • Mr. LAMONT Fifth Report As per the Sessional Order passed by the House on Mr. Ian Wishart (Vice-Chairperson): I wish to October 7, 2020 and further amended on December 3, present the fifth report of the Standing Committee on 2020, Rule 83(2) was waived for the April 12, 2021 Legislative Affairs. meeting, reducing the membership to six Members (4 Government and 2 Official Opposition). Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): Your Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs– Public Presentations Some Honourable Members: Dispense. Your Committee heard the following 10 presentations on Bill (No. 8) – The Pension Benefits Amendment Madam Speaker: Dispense. Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur les prestations de pension: Your Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs presents the following as its Fifth Report. Kevin Rebeck, Manitoba Federation of Labour Romeo Ignacio, Amalgamated Transit Union Local Meetings 1505 Michelle Gawronsky, President, Manitoba Govern- Your Committee met on April 12, 2021 at 6:00 p.m. in ment and General Employees Union Room 255 of the Legislative Building. Don Mackinnon, Private citizen Martin McInnes, Co-operative Superannuation Matters under Consideration Society Pension Plan Robert Moroz, Manitoba Association of Health Care • Bill (No. 8) – The Pension Benefits Amendment Professionals Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur les prestations de Jeff Traeger, United Food and Commercial Workers pension Local 832 Mike Sutherland, Manitoba Nurses Union • Bill (No. 11) – The Workplace Safety and Health Matt McLean, Canadian Union of Public Employees Amendment Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur la Paul McKie, Manitoba/Saskatchewan Area Director, sécurité et l'hygiène du travail Unifor 2348 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA April 13, 2021 Your Committee heard the following six presentations • Bill (No. 18) – The Workers Compensation on Bill (No. 11) – The Workplace Safety and Health Amendment Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur les Amendment Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur la sécurité et accidents du travail l'hygiène du travail: Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without Kevin Rebeck, Manitoba Federation of Labour amendment. Romeo Ignacio, Amalgamated Transit Union Local Mr. Wishart: Madam Speaker, I move, seconded by 1505 the honourable member for Fort Richmond Michelle Gawronsky, President, Manitoba Govern- (Mrs. Guillemard), that the report of the committee be ment and General Employees Union received. Robert Moroz, Manitoba Association of Health Care Professionals Motion agreed to. Mike Sutherland, Manitoba Nurses Union Standing Committee on Stephen Terichow Parrott, Canadian Union of Public Social and Economic Development Employees Fourth Report Mr. James Teitsma (Chairperson): Madam Your Committee heard the following seven Speaker, I wish to present the fourth report of the presentations on Bill (No. 18) – The Workers Standing Committee on Social and Economic Compensation Amendment Act/Loi modifiant la Loi Development. sur les accidents du travail: Clerk: Your Standing Committee on Social and Kevin Rebeck, Manitoba Federation of Labour Economic– Romeo Ignacio, Amalgamated Transit Union Local Some Honourable Members: Dispense. 1505 Madam Speaker: Dispense. Michelle Gawronsky, President, Manitoba Govern- ment and General Employees Union Your Standing Committee on Social and Economic Development presents the following as its Fourth Curt Martel, Private citizen Report. Robert Moroz, Manitoba Association of Health Care Professionals Meetings Mike Sutherland, Manitoba Nurses Union Your Committee met on April 12, 2021 at 6:00 p.m. in Phil Kraychuk, Private citizen Room 254 of the Legislative Building. Written Submissions Matters under Consideration • Bill (No. 10) – The Regional Health Authorities Your Committee received the following written Amendment Act (Health System Governance and submission on Bill (No. 8) – The Pension Benefits Accountability)/Loi modifiant la Loi sur les Amendment Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur les offices régionaux de la santé (gouvernance et prestations de pension: obligation redditionnelle au sein du système de Margaret Myles, Private citizen santé) • Bill (No. 56) – The Smoking and Vapour Products Bills Considered and Reported Control Amendment Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur la réglementation de l'usage du tabac et du • Bill (No. 8) – The Pension Benefits Amendment cannabis et des produits servant à vapoter Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur les prestations de pension • Bill (No. 67) – The Public Health Amendment Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur la santé publique Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without amendment. Committee Membership • MLA ASAGWARA • Bill (No. 11) – The Workplace Safety and Health • Hon. Ms. GORDON Amendment Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur la • Mr. GUENTER sécurité et l'hygiène du travail • Mrs. SMITH (Point Douglas) Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without • Hon. Mrs. STEFANSON amendment. • Mr. TEITSMA (Chairperson) April 13, 2021 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2349 Your Committee elected Mr. GUENTER as the Your Committee heard the following two Vice-Chairperson. presentations on (No. 67) – The Public Health Amendment Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur la santé As per the Sessional Order passed by the House on publique: October 7, 2020 and further amended on December 3, 2020, Rule 83(2) was waived for the April 12, 2021 Darlene Jackson, Manitoba Nurses Union meeting, reducing the membership to six Members Shannon McAteer, Canadian Union of Public (4 Government and 2 Official Opposition). Employees Non-Committee Members Speaking on Record Written Submissions • Hon. Mr. GERRARD Your Committee received the following written submission on Bill (No. 56) – The Smoking and Public Presentations Vapour Products Control Amendment Act/Loi modifiant la Loi sur la réglementation de l'usage du Your Committee heard the following 16 presentations tabac et du cannabis et des produits servant à on Bill (No. 10) – The Regional Health Authorities vapoter: Amendment Act (Health System Governance and Accountability)/Loi modifiant la Loi sur les offices régionaux de la santé (gouvernance et obligation Chief Dino Flett, Island Lake First Nation redditionnelle au sein du système de santé): Bills Considered and Reported Darlene Jackson, Manitoba Nurses Union Brianne Goertzen, Manitoba Health Coalition • Bill (No. 10) –