Fourth Session – Forty-First Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Myrna Driedger Speaker Vol. LXXII No. 50 - 1:30 p.m., Monday, May 13, 2019 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Forty-First Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALLUM, James Fort Garry-Riverview NDP ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley NDP BINDLE, Kelly Thompson PC CLARKE, Eileen, Hon. Agassiz PC COX, Cathy, Hon. River East PC CULLEN, Cliff, Hon. Spruce Woods PC CURRY, Nic Kildonan PC DRIEDGER, Myrna, Hon. Charleswood PC EICHLER, Ralph, Hon. Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne Lac du Bonnet PC FIELDING, Scott, Hon. Kirkfield Park PC FLETCHER, Steven, Hon. Assiniboia Man. FONTAINE, Nahanni St. Johns NDP FRIESEN, Cameron, Hon. Morden-Winkler PC GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin, Hon. Steinbach PC GRAYDON, Clifford Emerson Ind. GUILLEMARD, Sarah Fort Richmond PC HELWER, Reg Brandon West PC ISLEIFSON, Len Brandon East PC JOHNSON, Derek Interlake PC JOHNSTON, Scott St. James PC KINEW, Wab Fort Rouge NDP KLASSEN, Judy Kewatinook Lib. LAGASSÉ, Bob Dawson Trail PC LAGIMODIERE, Alan Selkirk PC LAMONT, Dougald St. Boniface Lib. LAMOUREUX, Cindy Burrows Lib. LATHLIN, Amanda The Pas NDP LINDSEY, Tom Flin Flon NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Flor Logan NDP MARCELINO, Ted Tyndall Park NDP MARTIN, Shannon Morris PC MAYER, Colleen, Hon. St. Vital PC MICHALESKI, Brad Dauphin PC MICKLEFIELD, Andrew Rossmere PC MORLEY-LECOMTE, Janice Seine River PC NESBITT, Greg Riding Mountain PC PALLISTER, Brian, Hon. Fort Whyte PC PEDERSEN, Blaine, Hon. Midland PC PIWNIUK, Doyle Arthur-Virden PC REYES, Jon St. Norbert PC SARAN, Mohinder The Maples Ind. SCHULER, Ron, Hon. St. Paul PC SMITH, Andrew Southdale PC SMITH, Bernadette Point Douglas NDP SMOOK, Dennis La Verendrye PC SQUIRES, Rochelle, Hon. Riel PC STEFANSON, Heather, Hon. Tuxedo PC SWAN, Andrew Minto NDP TEITSMA, James Radisson PC WHARTON, Jeff, Hon. Gimli PC WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WISHART, Ian Portage la Prairie PC WOWCHUK, Rick Swan River PC YAKIMOSKI, Blair Transcona PC 1799 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Monday, May 13, 2019 The House met at 1:30 p.m. on May 25th and 26th. Manitobans are encouraged to visit the Assembly Chamber on those days to see the Madam Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, maces firsthand. from Whom all power and wisdom come, we are assembled here before Thee to frame such laws as In addition to the original mace, the star-blanket may tend to the welfare and prosperity of our mace cushion and the beautiful beaded mace runner– province. Grant, O merciful God, we pray Thee, that gifted to the Assembly by the Assembly of Manitoba we may desire only that which is in accordance with Chiefs in 2010–are also on display today to help Thy will, that we may seek it with wisdom and know celebrate Manitoba Day, and to honour Manitoba's it with certainty and accomplish it perfectly for the indigenous heritage. glory and honour of Thy name and for the welfare of These artifacts also serve as a reminder that all our people. Amen. this Assembly Chamber and Legislative Building Please be seated. are on Treaty One territory, the traditional lands of the Anishinabe and the homeland of the Metis ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS people. Speaker's Statement I am pleased that we were able to include our Madam Speaker: I have a statement for the original mace in the celebration of Manitoba Day, House. Yesterday, May 12th, 2019, marked the and I hope this tradition continues. 149th anniversary of Manitoba joining Confederation Introduction of bills? as a province. In honour of this historic occasion, in today's Speaker's parade our Sergeant-at-Arms COMMITTEE REPORTS carried our original Manitoba mace. Standing Committee on Justice Carved from the hub of a Red River cart wheel Second Report by a soldier with the Wolseley Expedition in 1870, Mr. Doyle Piwniuk (Chairperson): Madam this mace made its first formal appearance on Speaker, I wish to present the second reading of the March 15, 1871, at the first session of the first Standing Committee on Justice. Manitoba Legislature, held in the home of A.G.B. Bannatyne in Winnipeg. Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): Your Standing Committee on Justice presents– Included in the designs carved into our original mace are the rose, thistle, harp and fleur-de-lis. The Some Honourable Members: Dispense. Bannatyne home was destroyed by fire in April– Madam Speaker: Dispense. pardon me, in December 1873, but thankfully, the mace survived. Your Standing Committee on JUSTICE presents the following as its Second Report. This mace was retired in 1884 after 13 years of service when our current mace was first used. The Meetings original mace has a permanent home on display in Your Committee met on May 9, 2019 at 6:00 p.m. in the Speaker's Office. I brought it out of retirement in Room 255 of the Legislative Building. 2017, after it had been retired for 133 years. It came out of retirement for the third time, today, for this Matters under Consideration celebration. • Bill (No. 5) – The Mental Health Amendment This important historical artifact was used in and Personal Health Information Amendment today's Speaker's parade to pay tribute to the rich Act / Loi modifiant la Loi sur la santé mentale et history of our province. la Loi sur les renseignements médicaux personnels The original mace, as well as the Assembly's current mace, will be on display in the Chamber in • Bill (No. 6) – The Statutes Correction and Minor their respective cases during the Doors Open event Amendments Act, 2018 / Loi corrective de 2018 1800 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 13, 2019 • Bill (No. 8) – The Referendum Act / Loi sur les Susan Dawes, Provincial Judges Association of référendums Manitoba • Bill (No. 9) – The Family Law Modernization Mark Toews, Manitoba Bar Association Act / Loi sur la modernisation du droit de la Written Submissions famille • Bill (No. 20) – The Courts Modernization Your Committee received the following written Act (Various Acts Amended) / Loi modifiant submission on Bill (No. 5) – The Mental Health diverses lois en matière de modernisation des Amendment and Personal Health Information tribunaux Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la Loi sur la santé mentale et la Loi sur les renseignements médicaux Committee Membership personnels: • HON. MR. CULLEN Anna Ziomek, The College of Physicians and • MS. FONTAINE Surgeons of Manitoba • HON. MR. FRIESEN • MR. ISLEIFSON (VICE-CHAIRPERSON) Bills Considered and Reported • MR. JOHNSTON (ST. JAMES) • Bill (No. 5) – The Mental Health Amendment • MS. LAMOUREUX and Personal Health Information Amendment • MS. LATHLIN Act / Loi modifiant la Loi sur la santé mentale et • MS. MORLEY-LECOMTE la Loi sur les renseignements médicaux • MR. PIWNIUK (CHAIRPERSON) personnels • MRS. SMITH (POINT DOUGLAS) • MR. TEITSMA Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without amendment. Public Presentations • Bill (No. 6) – The Statutes Correction and Minor Your Committee heard the following four Amendments Act, 2018 / Loi corrective de 2018 presentations on Bill (No. 5) – The Mental Health Amendment and Personal Health Information Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la Loi sur la santé amendment. mentale et la Loi sur les renseignements médicaux • Bill (No. 8) – The Referendum Act / Loi sur les personnels: référendums Keith Kovacs, Private Citizen Bonnie Bricker, Private Citizen Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without Kristen Valeri, Health Sciences Centre, Winnipeg amendment. Cassidy Allison, Private Citizen • Bill (No. 9) – The Family Law Modernization Your Committee heard the following six Act / Loi sur la modernisation du droit de la presentations on Bill (No. 9) – The Family Law famille Modernization Act / Loi sur la modernisation du Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without droit de la famille: amendment. Ronald Bewski, Family Mediation Manitoba • Bill (No. 20) – The Courts Modernization Act Jason Bekiaris, Private Citizen (Various Acts Amended) / Loi modifiant diverses Robynne Kazina, Manitoba Bar Association (Family lois en matière de modernisation des tribunaux Law Section) Lawrence Pinsky, FAMLI Mediation and Arbitration Your Committee agreed to report this Bill with the Allan Fineblit, Private Citizen following amendment: Christine Ens, Mediation Services THAT Clause 42 of the Bill be replaced with the Your Committee heard the following two following: presentations on Bill (No. 20) – The Courts Modernization Act (Various Acts Amended) / Loi Coming into force modifiant diverses lois en matière de modernisation 42 This Act comes into force on a day to be fixed by des tribunaux: proclamation. May 13, 2019 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 1801 Mr. Piwniuk: Madam Speaker, I move, seconded or debated by Winnipeg City Council–for a rink at by the honourable member for Seine River the St. James Civic Centre named in Ab McDonald's (Ms. Morley-Lecomte), that the report of the honour, a fitting recognition as Ab was an active committee be received. citizen both on and off the ice and a champion in the community. Motion agreed to. Madam Speaker, I ask for leave for the members TABLING OF REPORTS of the McDonald family who are here to be added to Madam Speaker: I'm pleased to table the annual Hansard, Madam Speaker. report of the Legislative Assembly Management Commission for the year ending March 31st, 2019. Thank you. Copies of the report have been placed on members' desks. Madam Speaker: Is there leave to include those names in Hansard? [Agreed] Ministerial statements? Cindy East, Kristina Gottfried, Kurt Gottfried, MEMBERS' STATEMENTS Rachel Gottfried, Ryan Gottfried, Lori Koke, Ab McDonald Pat McDonald. Hon. Scott Fielding (Minister of Finance): Today I Sinclair Park Community Centre wish to recognize the legacy of Ab McDonald, a long-time resident of Winnipeg west where he made Ms. Nahanni Fontaine (St.