OVERSIGHT OF THE NATIONAL TELECOMMUNI- CATIONS AND INFORMATION ADMINISTRATION HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON COMMUNICATIONS AND TECHNOLOGY OF THE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED FIFTEENTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION MARCH 6, 2018 Serial No. 115–104 ( Printed for the use of the Committee on Energy and Commerce energycommerce.house.gov U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 30–286 PDF WASHINGTON : 2018 VerDate Mar 15 2010 14:27 Jun 13, 2018 Jkt 037690 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 I:\115THCONGRESS\115X104NTIAOVERSIGHTASKOK060718\115X104NTIAOVERSIGHTP COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE GREG WALDEN, Oregon Chairman JOE BARTON, Texas FRANK PALLONE, JR., New Jersey Vice Chairman Ranking Member FRED UPTON, Michigan BOBBY L. RUSH, Illinois JOHN SHIMKUS, Illinois ANNA G. ESHOO, California MICHAEL C. BURGESS, Texas ELIOT L. ENGEL, New York MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee GENE GREEN, Texas STEVE SCALISE, Louisiana DIANA DEGETTE, Colorado ROBERT E. LATTA, Ohio MICHAEL F. DOYLE, Pennsylvania CATHY MCMORRIS RODGERS, Washington JANICE D. SCHAKOWSKY, Illinois GREGG HARPER, Mississippi G.K. BUTTERFIELD, North Carolina LEONARD LANCE, New Jersey DORIS O. MATSUI, California BRETT GUTHRIE, Kentucky KATHY CASTOR, Florida PETE OLSON, Texas JOHN P. SARBANES, Maryland DAVID B. MCKINLEY, West Virginia JERRY MCNERNEY, California ADAM KINZINGER, Illinois PETER WELCH, Vermont H. MORGAN GRIFFITH, Virginia BEN RAY LUJA´ N, New Mexico GUS M. BILIRAKIS, Florida PAUL TONKO, New York BILL JOHNSON, Ohio YVETTE D. CLARKE, New York BILLY LONG, Missouri DAVID LOEBSACK, Iowa LARRY BUCSHON, Indiana KURT SCHRADER, Oregon BILL FLORES, Texas JOSEPH P. KENNEDY, III, Massachusetts SUSAN W. BROOKS, Indiana TONY CA´ RDENAS, California MARKWAYNE MULLIN, Oklahoma RAUL RUIZ, California RICHARD HUDSON, North Carolina SCOTT H. PETERS, California CHRIS COLLINS, New York DEBBIE DINGELL, Michigan KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota TIM WALBERG, Michigan MIMI WALTERS, California RYAN A. COSTELLO, Pennsylvania EARL L. ‘‘BUDDY’’ CARTER, Georgia JEFF DUNCAN, South Carolina SUBCOMMITTEE ON COMMUNICATIONS AND TECHNOLOGY MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee Chairman LEONARD LANCE, New Jersey MICHAEL F. DOYLE, Pennsylvania Vice Chairman Ranking Member JOHN SHIMKUS, Illinois PETER WELCH, Vermont STEVE SCALISE, Louisiana YVETTE D. CLARKE, New York ROBERT E. LATTA, Ohio DAVID LOEBSACK, Iowa BRETT GUTHRIE, Kentucky RAUL RUIZ, California PETE OLSON, Texas DEBBIE DINGELL, Michigan ADAM KINZINGER, Illinois BOBBY L. RUSH, Illinois GUS M. BILIRAKIS, Florida ANNA G. ESHOO, California BILL JOHNSON, Ohio ELIOT L. ENGEL, New York BILLY LONG, Missouri G.K. BUTTERFIELD, North Carolina BILL FLORES, Texas DORIS O. MATSUI, California SUSAN W. BROOKS, Tennessee JERRY MCNERNEY, California CHRIS COLLINS, New York FRANK PALLONE, JR., New Jersey (ex KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota officio) MIMI WALTERS, California RYAN A. COSTELLO, Pennsylvania GREG WALDEN, Oregon (ex officio) (II) VerDate Mar 15 2010 14:27 Jun 13, 2018 Jkt 037690 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 0486 Sfmt 5904 I:\115THCONGRESS\115X104NTIAOVERSIGHTASKOK060718\115X104NTIAOVERSIGHTP CONTENTS Page Hon. Marsha Blackburn, a Representative in Congress from the State of Tennessee, opening statement ............................................................................ 2 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 3 Hon. Michael F. Doyle, a Representative in Congress from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, opening statement ................................................................... 4 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 5 Hon. Greg Walden, a Representative in Congress from the State of Oregon, opening statement ................................................................................................ 6 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 8 Hon. Frank Pallone, Jr., a Representative in Congress from the State of New Jersey, opening statement .......................................................................... 9 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 10 WITNESS David J. Redl, Assistant Secretary for Communications and Information, Na- tional Telecommunications and Information Administration, Department of Commerce ......................................................................................................... 11 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 14 Answers to submitted questions ...................................................................... 52 SUBMITTED MATERIAL Letter of March 5, 2018, from Marc Rotenberg, President, Electronic Privacy Information Center, et al., to Mrs. Blackburn, et al., submitted by Mr. Doyle ..................................................................................................................... 48 Letter of March 6, 2018, from Joy Ditto, President, CEO of the Utilities Technology Council, to Mrs. Blackburn, et al., submitted by Mrs. Black- burn ....................................................................................................................... 50 (III) VerDate Mar 15 2010 14:27 Jun 13, 2018 Jkt 037690 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 I:\115THCONGRESS\115X104NTIAOVERSIGHTASKOK060718\115X104NTIAOVERSIGHTP VerDate Mar 15 2010 14:27 Jun 13, 2018 Jkt 037690 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 I:\115THCONGRESS\115X104NTIAOVERSIGHTASKOK060718\115X104NTIAOVERSIGHTP OVERSIGHT OF THE NATIONAL TELE- COMMUNICATIONS AND INFORMATION AD- MINISTRATION TUESDAY, MARCH 6, 2018 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SUBCOMMITTEE ON COMMUNICATIONS AND TECHNOLOGY, COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE, Washington, DC. The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10:02 a.m., in room 2123, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Marsha Blackburn (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding. Members present: Representatives Blackburn, Lance, Shimkus, Latta, Guthrie, Kinzinger, Bilirakis, Johnson, Long, Flores, Brooks, Collins, Walters, Costello, Walden (ex officio), Doyle, Welch, Clarke, Loebsack, Ruiz, Eshoo, Butterfield, Matsui, McNerney, and Pallone (ex officio). Also present: Representative Tonko. Staff present: Jon Adame, Policy Coordinator, Communications and Technology; Jennifer Barblan, Chief Counsel, Oversight and Investigations; Mike Bloomquist, Staff Director; Karen Christian, General Counsel; Robin Colwell, Chief Counsel, Communications and Technology; Sean Farrell, Professional Staff Member, Commu- nications and Technology; Adam Fromm, Director of Outreach and Coalitions; Elena Hernandez, Press Secretary; Bijan Koohmaraie, Counsel, Digital Commerce and Consumer Protection; Tim Kurth, Deputy Chief Counsel, Communications and Technology; Lauren McCarty, Counsel, Communications and Technology; Drew McDowell, Executive Assistant; Austin Stonebraker, Press Assist- ant; Evan Viau, Legislative Clerk, Communications and Tech- nology; Hamlin Wade, Special Advisor, External Affairs; Everett Winnick, Director of Information Technology; Jeff Carroll, Minority Staff Director; David Goldman, Minority Chief Counsel, Commu- nications and Technology; Jerry Leverich, Minority Counsel; Dan Miller, Minority Policy Analyst; and Tim Robinson, Minority Chief Counsel. Mrs. BLACKBURN. Good morning. Come on, guys. Good morning. All right. There we go. There we go. I want to welcome everyone to the subcommittee hearing this morning. And at this time I recognize myself for 5 minutes for an opening statement. (1) VerDate Mar 15 2010 14:27 Jun 13, 2018 Jkt 037690 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 6633 Sfmt 6633 I:\115THCONGRESS\115X104NTIAOVERSIGHTASKOK060718\115X104NTIAOVERSIGHTP 2 OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. MARSHA BLACKBURN, A REP- RESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF TEN- NESSEE And we want to begin by saying welcome to Mr. Redl. We are delighted to see you here, and we are excited to provide some over- sight of NTIA since you’ve left us for the Administration, and as you well know, several of this committee’s top priorities are carried out by the NTIA, not the least of which is efficiently coordinating Federal usage of spectrum. We are focused on making certain that you all are on task, as are we, and because of this, I want to mention at the outset that we are terribly disappointed with the snafu that occurred on the testimony submission and on the one sheet that we received that is an overview of testimony. You know our process. You know that we respect that process on both sides of the dais, and going forward, we would like to ask for an accommodation of that process as provided by the rules and also the expectations of the committee members. Around the world, countries are racing to be the first to 5G. To be competitive the United States will need to continually make available spectrum needed to build out these networks. It seems NTIA is hard at work identifying bands that could be freed up for the commercial use, especially with the recent an- nouncement of 100 megahertz that you’ve identified as a candidate band. We fully recognize the challenge of balancing the need for more spectrum with the significant national security and public safety issues associated with clearing these bands. We are looking forward to hearing from you this morning on your plans of how you will help the United States maintain our status as a global leader in the wireless space. Of