LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 31 May 2017 8697 OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Wednesday, 31 May 2017 The Council met at Eleven o'clock MEMBERS PRESENT: THE PRESIDENT THE HONOURABLE ANDREW LEUNG KWAN-YUEN, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG THE HONOURABLE ABRAHAM SHEK LAI-HIM, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TOMMY CHEUNG YU-YAN, G.B.S., J.P. PROF THE HONOURABLE JOSEPH LEE KOK-LONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JEFFREY LAM KIN-FUNG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG TING-KWONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE STARRY LEE WAI-KING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAK-KAN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN KIN-POR, B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PRISCILLA LEUNG MEI-FUN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-KIN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MRS REGINA IP LAU SUK-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. 8698 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 31 May 2017 THE HONOURABLE PAUL TSE WAI-CHUN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG KWOK-HUNG# THE HONOURABLE CLAUDIA MO THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL TIEN PUK-SUN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE STEVEN HO CHUN-YIN, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE FRANKIE YICK CHI-MING, J.P. THE HONOURABLE WU CHI-WAI, M.H. THE HONOURABLE YIU SI-WING, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE CHARLES PETER MOK, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHI-CHUEN THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAN-PAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG CHE-CHEUNG, B.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LEUNG THE HONOURABLE ALICE MAK MEI-KUEN, B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE KWOK KA-KI THE HONOURABLE KWOK WAI-KEUNG THE HONOURABLE DENNIS KWOK WING-HANG THE HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER CHEUNG WAH-FUNG, S.B.S., J.P. # According to the Judgment of the Court of First Instance of the High Court on 14 July 2017, LEUNG Kwok-hung, Nathan LAW Kwun-chung, YIU Chung-yim and LAU Siu-lai have been disqualified from assuming the office of a member of the Legislative Council, and have vacated the same since 12 October 2016, and are not entitled to act as a member of the Legislative Council. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 31 May 2017 8699 DR THE HONOURABLE FERNANDO CHEUNG CHIU-HUNG DR THE HONOURABLE HELENA WONG PIK-WAN THE HONOURABLE IP KIN-YUEN DR THE HONOURABLE ELIZABETH QUAT, J.P. THE HONOURABLE MARTIN LIAO CHEUNG-KONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE POON SIU-PING, B.B.S., M.H. DR THE HONOURABLE CHIANG LAI-WAN, J.P. IR DR THE HONOURABLE LO WAI-KWOK, S.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ALVIN YEUNG THE HONOURABLE ANDREW WAN SIU-KIN THE HONOURABLE CHU HOI-DICK THE HONOURABLE JIMMY NG WING-KA, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE JUNIUS HO KWAN-YIU, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HO KAI-MING THE HONOURABLE LAM CHEUK-TING THE HONOURABLE HOLDEN CHOW HO-DING THE HONOURABLE SHIU KA-FAI THE HONOURABLE SHIU KA-CHUN THE HONOURABLE WILSON OR CHONG-SHING, M.H. 8700 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 31 May 2017 THE HONOURABLE YUNG HOI-YAN DR THE HONOURABLE PIERRE CHAN THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHUN-YING THE HONOURABLE TANYA CHAN THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG KWOK-KWAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HUI CHI-FUNG THE HONOURABLE LUK CHUNG-HUNG THE HONOURABLE LAU KWOK-FAN, M.H. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LAU IP-KEUNG, M.H., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE CHENG CHUNG-TAI THE HONOURABLE KWONG CHUN-YU THE HONOURABLE JEREMY TAM MAN-HO THE HONOURABLE NATHAN LAW KWUN-CHUNG# DR THE HONOURABLE YIU CHUNG-YIM# DR THE HONOURABLE LAU SIU-LAI# MEMBERS ABSENT: THE HONOURABLE MA FUNG-KWOK, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHUNG KWOK-PAN # According to the Judgment of the Court of First Instance of the High Court on 14 July 2017, LEUNG Kwok-hung, Nathan LAW Kwun-chung, YIU Chung-yim and LAU Siu-lai have been disqualified from assuming the office of a member of the Legislative Council, and have vacated the same since 12 October 2016, and are not entitled to act as a member of the Legislative Council. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 31 May 2017 8701 PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING: THE HONOURABLE RAYMOND TAM CHI-YUEN, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR CONSTITUTIONAL AND MAINLAND AFFAIRS THE HONOURABLE LAI TUNG-KWOK, G.B.S., I.D.S.M., J.P. SECRETARY FOR SECURITY MR KEVIN YEUNG YUN-HUNG, J.P. SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION DR THE HONOURABLE KO WING-MAN, B.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR FOOD AND HEALTH THE HONOURABLE STEPHEN SUI WAI-KEUNG, J.P. SECRETARY FOR LABOUR AND WELFARE THE HONOURABLE ERIC MA SIU-CHEUNG, J.P. SECRETARY FOR DEVELOPMENT MR RONALD CHAN NGOK-PANG, J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR CONSTITUTIONAL AND MAINLAND AFFAIRS CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE: MR KENNETH CHEN WEI-ON, S.B.S., SECRETARY GENERAL MISS ODELIA LEUNG HING-YEE, DEPUTY SECRETARY GENERAL MISS FLORA TAI YIN-PING, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MS DORA WAI, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL 8702 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 31 May 2017 PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Will the Clerk please ring the bell to summon Members to the Chamber. (After the summoning bell had been rung, a number of Members entered the Chamber) TABLING OF PAPERS The following papers were laid on the table under Rule 21(2) of the Rules of Procedure: Subsidiary Legislation/Instruments L.N. No. Admission and Registration (Amendment) Rules 2017 .... 103/2017 Trainee Solicitors (Amendment) Rules 2017 .................... 104/2017 Import and Export (Strategic Commodities) Regulations (Amendment of Schedule 1) Order 2017 (Commencement) Notice ...................................... 105/2017 Other Paper No. 101 ― Kowloon-Canton Railway Corporation Annual Report 2016 ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Questions. First question. Use of closed-circuit television systems to assist in law enforcement 1. MR MICHAEL TIEN (in Cantonese): It has been reported that in recent years, the Police have detected a number of crime cases of great public concern by taking advantage of the clues obtained from the closed-circuit television ("CCTV") footages near the crime scenes and such footages have constituted LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 31 May 2017 8703 crucial evidence in the trials concerned. On the other hand, some members of the public have relayed to me that the installation of CCTV systems is conducive to reducing traffic contraventions. In this connection, will the Government inform this Council: (1) of the current number of CCTV systems installed in public places by government departments; whether the authorities will install more CCTV systems in various crime black spots to enhance the deterrent effect and assist in law enforcement; (2) of the number of crime cases detected in the past 10 years by various law enforcement departments by taking advantage of the clues obtained from CCTV footages; and (3) whether the authorities will conduct a study on the installation of CCTV systems at bus termini, road junctions with yellow box markings, locations where illegal parking is frequent and traffic black spots to assist the Police in taking law enforcement actions against traffic contraventions; whether the authorities will consider amending the relevant legislation to expressly provide that CCTV footages can be taken as sufficient evidence to prove traffic contraventions such as illegal parking and stopping on yellow box markings? SECRETARY FOR SECURITY (in Cantonese): President, closed circuit television ("CCTV") systems can video-film and monitor specified areas 24 hours a day and certain systems are equipped with recording function, helping to enhance security and prevent crime. Therefore, CCTV systems are commonly used for security and monitoring purposes in many private buildings, shopping arcades, government buildings and public facilities, etc. In addition, the Government has been using CCTV cameras to monitor traffic conditions. My consolidated reply to Mr Michael TIEN's question is as follows: Currently, many government departments, such as the Transport Department ("TD"), Housing Department ("HD"), Leisure and Cultural Services Department ("LCSD"), Food and Environmental Hygiene Department ("FEHD"), Environmental Protection Department ("EPD"), Hong Kong Police Force 8704 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 31 May 2017 ("HKPF"), Immigration Department ("ImmD"), and Customs and Excise Department ("C&ED"), etc., have installed CCTV cameras in areas under their purview or in public places. TD has set up CCTV cameras on roads with busy traffic throughout the territory and within government road tunnels and control areas for the purpose of traffic monitoring. HD has installed CCTV cameras at various locations of public housing estates, shopping arcades, carparks and construction sites for security, anti-theft and monitoring purposes, including CCTV cameras under the Falling Object Monitoring System, commonly called the "eyes in the sky". LCSD has set up CCTV cameras at its venues for maintaining public safety, assisting in crowd control and monitoring operation of the venues. FEHD has installed Internet Protocol cameras at six refuse dumping blackspots to strengthen the monitoring of illegal dumping of refuse. EPD has set up surveillance cameras at eight fly-tipping blackspots of construction waste and plans to install more surveillance camera systems at other blackspots. In addition, HKPF have installed CCTV cameras along the land boundary and Hong Kong waters for boundary security, anti-smuggling purpose and anti-illegal immigration purpose, etc. During large-scale public order events, HKPF would set up temporary CCTV systems at strategic locations, such as places where large crowds would appear, in order to know about the flow and movement of crowds as well as adopt corresponding crowd management measures. These temporary systems are not equipped with recording function and will be removed as soon as possible after the events in accordance with operational needs. Separately, to monitor crowd and vehicle movements at immigration control points and the operation of e-Channels as well as for security purpose, ImmD and C&ED have also installed CCTV cameras at the control points.