H.R. 86, H.R. 118, H.R. 1925, H.R. 2689, H.R. 2781 & H.R. 2888 LEGISLATIVE HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PARKS, FORESTS AND PUBLIC LANDS OF THE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED ELEVENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION Thursday, October 1, 2009 Serial No. 111-37 Printed for the use of the Committee on Natural Resources ( Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/congress/index.html or Committee address: http://resourcescommittee.house.gov U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 52-627 PDF WASHINGTON : 2009 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512–1800; DC area (202) 512–1800 Fax: (202) 512–2104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402–0001 VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:08 Nov 30, 2009 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 L:\DOCS\52627.TXT Hresour1 PsN: KATHY COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES NICK J. RAHALL, II, West Virginia, Chairman DOC HASTINGS, Washington, Ranking Republican Member Dale E. Kildee, Michigan Don Young, Alaska Eni F.H. Faleomavaega, American Samoa Elton Gallegly, California Neil Abercrombie, Hawaii John J. Duncan, Jr., Tennessee Frank Pallone, Jr., New Jersey Jeff Flake, Arizona Grace F. Napolitano, California Henry E. Brown, Jr., South Carolina Rush D. Holt, New Jersey Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Washington Rau´ l M. Grijalva, Arizona Louie Gohmert, Texas Madeleine Z. Bordallo, Guam Rob Bishop, Utah Jim Costa, California Bill Shuster, Pennsylvania Dan Boren, Oklahoma Doug Lamborn, Colorado Gregorio Sablan, Northern Marianas Adrian Smith, Nebraska Martin T. Heinrich, New Mexico Robert J. Wittman, Virginia George Miller, California Paul C. Broun, Georgia Edward J. Markey, Massachusetts John Fleming, Louisiana Peter A. DeFazio, Oregon Mike Coffman, Colorado Maurice D. Hinchey, New York Jason Chaffetz, Utah Donna M. Christensen, Virgin Islands Cynthia M. Lummis, Wyoming Diana DeGette, Colorado Tom McClintock, California Ron Kind, Wisconsin Bill Cassidy, Louisiana Lois Capps, California Jay Inslee, Washington Joe Baca, California Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, South Dakota John P. Sarbanes, Maryland Carol Shea-Porter, New Hampshire Niki Tsongas, Massachusetts Frank Kratovil, Jr., Maryland Pedro R. Pierluisi, Puerto Rico James H. Zoia, Chief of Staff Rick Healy, Chief Counsel Todd Young, Republican Chief of Staff Lisa Pittman, Republican Chief Counsel SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PARKS, FORESTS AND PUBLIC LANDS RAU´ L M. GRIJALVA, Arizona, Chairman ROB BISHOP, Utah, Ranking Republican Member Dale E. Kildee, Michigan Don Young, Alaska Neil Abercrombie, Hawaii Elton Gallegly, California Grace F. Napolitano, California John J. Duncan, Jr., Tennessee Rush D. Holt, New Jersey Jeff Flake, Arizona Madeleine Z. Bordallo, Guam Henry E. Brown, Jr., South Carolina Dan Boren, Oklahoma Louie Gohmert, Texas Martin T. Heinrich, New Mexico Bill Shuster, Pennsylvania Peter A. DeFazio, Oregon Robert J. Wittman, Virginia Maurice D. Hinchey, New York Paul C. Broun, Georgia Donna M. Christensen, Virgin Islands Mike Coffman, Colorado Diana DeGette, Colorado Cynthia M. Lummis, Wyoming Ron Kind, Wisconsin Tom McClintock, California Lois Capps, California Doc Hastings, Washington, ex officio Jay Inslee, Washington Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, South Dakota John P. Sarbanes, Maryland Carol Shea-Porter, New Hampshire Niki Tsongas, Massachusetts Pedro R. Pierluisi, Puerto Rico Nick J. Rahall, II, West Virginia, ex officio (II) VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:08 Nov 30, 2009 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 L:\DOCS\52627.TXT Hresour1 PsN: KATHY CONTENTS Page Hearing held on Thursday, October 1, 2009 .......................................................... 1 Statement of Members: Bishop, Hon. Rob, a Representative in Congress from the State of Utah ... 3 Chaffetz, Hon. Jason, a Representative in Congress from the State of Utah ............................................................................................................... 28 Grijalva, Hon. Rau´ l M., a Representative in Congress from the State of Arizona ...................................................................................................... 2 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 2 Hastings, Hon. Doc, a Representative in Congress from the State of Washington .................................................................................................... 7 Hinchey, Hon. Maurice D., a Representative in Congress from the State of New York ................................................................................................... 9 Holt, Hon. Rush D., a Representative in Congress from the State of New Jersey .................................................................................................... 31 Lummis, Hon. Cynthia M., a Representative in Congress from the State of Wyoming .................................................................................................... 29 Statement of Witnesses: Abbey, Robert V., Director, Bureau of Land Management, U.S. Department of the Interior ........................................................................... 32 Prepared statement on H.R. 86 ............................................................... 33 Prepared statement on H.R. 118 ............................................................. 34 Prepared statement on H.R. 1925 ........................................................... 35 Prepared statement on H.R. 2689 ........................................................... 38 Prepared statement on H.R. 2781 and H.R. 2888 ................................. 39 Anderson, Ross C. ‘‘Rocky,’’ Former Mayor, Salt Lake City, Utah ............... 78 Prepared statement on H.R. 1925 ........................................................... 79 Bell, Hon. Gregory S., Lieutenant Governor, State of Utah, Salt Lake City, Utah, on behalf of Governor Gary R. Herbert ................................... 63 Bennett, Hon. Robert F., a U.S. Senator from the State of Utah ................ 15 Campbell, Hon. John, a Representative in Congress from the State of California ....................................................................................................... 27 Garbett, Bryson, Former Utah State Legislator, Salt Lake City, Utah ....... 73 Prepared statement on H.R. 1925 ........................................................... 74 Hatch, Hon. Orrin, a U.S. Senator from the State of Utah .......................... 12 Prepared statement on H.R. 1925 ........................................................... 14 Holtrop, Joel, Deputy Chief, National Forest System, Forest Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture ........................................................................... 40 Prepared statement on H.R. 2888 ........................................................... 41 Jones, John, Carbon County Commissioner, Price, Utah ............................. 65 Prepared statement on H.R. 1925 ........................................................... 67 Matheson, Hon. Jim, a Representative in Congress from the State of Utah ............................................................................................................... 19 Prepared statement on H.R. 1925 ........................................................... 21 McIntosh, William A., President and CEO, National D-Day Memorial Foundation, Bedford, Virginia ..................................................................... 50 Prepared statement on H.R. 2689 ........................................................... 52 Metcalf, Peter, CEO/President & Co-Founder, Black Diamond Equipment Ltd., Utah ...................................................................................................... 68 Prepared statement on H.R. 1925 ........................................................... 70 Moody, Michael, President, Molalla River Alliance, Molalla, Oregon .......... 53 Prepared statement on H.R. 2781 ........................................................... 55 Perriello, Hon. Thomas, a Representative in Congress from the State of Virginia ...................................................................................................... 22 Prepared statement on H.R. 2689 ........................................................... 24 Schrader, Hon. Kurt, a Representative in Congress from the State of Oregon ............................................................................................................ 25 Prepared statement on H.R. 2781 ........................................................... 26 Stahl, Andy, Executive Director, Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics, Eugene, Oregon ...................................................... 58 Prepared statement on H.R. 2888 ........................................................... 60 Additional materials supplied: Herbert, Hon. Gary R., Governor, State of Utah, Letter submitted for the record on H.R. 1925 ............................................................................... 64 (III) VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:08 Nov 30, 2009 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 L:\DOCS\52627.TXT Hresour1 PsN: KATHY VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:08 Nov 30, 2009 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 L:\DOCS\52627.TXT Hresour1 PsN: KATHY LEGISLATIVE HEARING ON H.R. 86, TO ELIMINATE AN UNUSED LIGHTHOUSE RESERVATION, PROVIDE MANAGEMENT CONSISTENCY BY BRINGING THE ROCKS AND SMALL ISLANDS ALONG THE COAST OF ORANGE COUNTY, CALIFORNIA,