1 STATE OF CALIFORNIA 2020 CITIZENS REDISTRICTING COMMISSION (CRC) In the matter of: PUBLIC MEETING 721 Capitol Mall, 2nd Floor Sacramento, California 95814 TUESDAY, APRIL 27, 2021 1:00 P.M. Reported by: Peter Petty CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 229 Napa Street, Rodeo, California 94572 (510) 224-4476 2 APPEARANCES 2020 Citizens Redistricting Commission: Commissioners Alicia Fernandez, Chair Isra Ahmad, Vice Chair Jane Andersen Neal Fornaciari J. Ray Kennedy Antonio Le Mons Sara Sadhwani Patricia Sinay Derric H. Taylor Pedro Toledo Trena Turner Angela Vazquez Russell Yee Staff Alvaro E. Hernandez, Executive Director Marian Johnston, Legal Counsel Fredy Ceja, Communications Director Ravindar Singh, Administrative Assistant Technical Contractors Public Comment Moderator Kristian Manoff, AV Technical Director Also Present Presenters/Panelists Jeremy Payne, Equality California Rebekah Hook-Held, San Diego LGBT Community Center Rosa Diaz, Imperial Valley LGBT Resource Center Paul Mitchell, Redistricting Partners Eric McGhee, Public Policy Institute of California Karin MacDonald, Statewide Database Public Comment Dylan Johnson, SEIU California CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 229 Napa Street, Rodeo, California 94572 (510) 224-4476 3 Public Comment (continued) Michael Deegan-McCree, California Black Census and Public Redistricting Hub Karen Diaz, CHIRLA Daniel Ichinose, Orange County Civic Engagement Table Cha Zang, AAPIs for Civic Empowerment Education Fund (AAPI FORCE-EF) Jodie Filkins-Webber Eric Payne, Central Valley Urban Institute Adria Orr, Asian Americans Advancing Justice Asian Law Caucus Renee Westa-Lusk Sky Allen, Inland Empire United Helen Hutchison, League of Women Voters California Unidentified Caller Stan Forbes Julia Gomez, ACLU of Southern/Northern California Alejandra Ponce de Leon, Advancement Project California Stephen Blake Samuel Sukaton, California League of Conservation Voters Education Fund CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 229 Napa Street, Rodeo, California 94572 (510) 224-4476 4 INDEX Page Call to Order and Roll Call: 5 Chair Opening Remarks 6 Public Comment 7 LGBTQ Presentation Jeremy Payne 41 Rebekah Hook-Held 51 Rosa Diaz 56 Paul Mitchell 61 Agenda Item 14-Demographic Shift Panel Presentation Eric McGhee 84 Karin MacDonald 96 Public Comment 111 1 CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 229 Napa Street, Rodeo, California 94572 (510) 224-4476 5 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 Tuesday, April 27, 2021 1:00 p.m. 3 CHAIR FERNANDEZ: Good morning. Welcome to this 4 Commission meeting. I’m Alicia Fernandez. I’m the Chair 5 for this meeting, and my fellow commissioner, Isra Ahmad is 6 the Vice Chair. 7 First thing is please take roll call. 8 MR. SINGH: Thank you. Commissioner Ahmad. 9 VICE CHAIR AHMAD: Here. 10 MR. SINGH: Commissioner Akutagawa. 11 (No audible reply) 12 MR. SINGH: Commissioner Andersen. 13 COMMISSIONER ANDERSEN: Here. 14 MR. SINGH: Commissioner Fernandez. 15 CHAIR FERNANDEZ: Here. 16 MR. SINGH: Commissioner Fornaciari. 17 COMMISSIONER FORNACIARI: Here. 18 MR. SINGH: Commissioner Kennedy. 19 COMMISSIONER KENNEDY: Here. 20 MR. SINGH: Commissioner Le Mons. 21 (No audible reply.) 22 MR. SINGH: Commissioner Sadhwani. 23 COMMISSIONER SADHWANI: Here. 24 MR. SINGH: Commissioner Sinay. 25 COMMISSIONER SINAY: Here. CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 229 Napa Street, Rodeo, California 94572 (510) 224-4476 6 1 MR. SINGH: Commissioner Taylor. 2 COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Present. 3 MR. SINGH: Commissioner Toledo. 4 COMMISSIONER TOLEDO: Here. 5 MR. SINGH: Commissioner Turner. 6 COMMISSIONER TURNER: Here. 7 MR. SINGH: Commissioner Vasquez. 8 COMMISSIONER VASQUEZ: Here. 9 MR. SINGH: You have a quorum, Chair. 10 CHAIR FERNANDEZ: Did you get Commissioner Yee? 11 MR. SINGH: I’m sorry. Commissioner Yee. 12 COMMISSIONER YEE: Here. 13 CHAIR FERNANDEZ: And Commissioner Le Mons is 14 also here. 15 MR. SINGH: Thank you. 16 CHAIR FERNANDEZ: Okay. Thank you, everyone. In 17 terms of action taken yesterday during closed session, the 18 Commission did take action to move forward with one of our 19 Director of Outreach candidates, so we’re still going 20 through that process. So, that’s all for that. 21 I also wanted to thank those that viewed our 22 Spanish presentation last night at 5:00 o’clock, so thank 23 you for that. 24 And then before I go to public comment, I just 25 want to give everyone a roadmap of the schedule for the CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 229 Napa Street, Rodeo, California 94572 (510) 224-4476 7 1 next few days. So, today we will have an LGBTQ panel at 2 1:15, at approximately 1:15, and then at approximately 3:00 3 o’clock we’ll have demographic shift panel, and after that 4 panel we will adjourn to closed session and we do not 5 anticipate coming back tonight. 6 Tomorrow we will resume in closed session, and we 7 will not return to open session, and that will be at noon. 8 At 4:00 o’clock tomorrow p.m. there’s a Public Input Design 9 Committee. 10 Then on Thursday at 9:30 a.m. we will return to 11 open session, and at that point we’ll remain in open 12 session where we’ll address the remaining agenda items. At 13 the conclusion of our meeting, the Legal Affair Committee 14 will meet. 15 And please review our website for any updates for 16 that information. And with that, if we could go to public 17 comment, Katy. 18 PUBLIC COMMENT MODERATOR: Yes, Chair. I will 19 read the instructions, and to all of those called in, 20 remember to press star nine to raise your hand. 21 In order to maximize transparency and public 22 participation in our process, the commissioners will be 23 taking public comment by phone. 24 To call in, dial the telephone number provided on 25 the livestream feed. It is 877-853-5247. When prompted, CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 229 Napa Street, Rodeo, California 94572 (510) 224-4476 8 1 enter the meeting I.D. number provided on the livestream 2 feed. It is 98199802683 for this meeting. When prompted 3 to enter a participant I.D., simply press the pound key. 4 Once you have dialed in you’ll be placed in a 5 queue. To indicate you wish to comment, please press star 6 nine. This will raise your hand for the moderator. 7 When it is your turn to speak you will hear a 8 message that says, “The host would like you to talk,” and 9 to “press star six to speak.” 10 If you would like to give your name, please state 11 and spell it for the record. You are not required to 12 provide your name to give public comment. Please make sure 13 to mute your computer or livestream audio to prevent any 14 feedback or distortion during your call. Once you are 15 waiting in the queue, be alert for when it is your turn to 16 speak, and again, please turn down the livestream volume. 17 And we do have several callers in the queue, and 18 I will begin opening up the lines. 19 CHAIR FERNANDEZ: Thank you. 20 PUBLIC COMMENT MODERATOR: The floor is yours. 21 MR. JOHNSON: Hello. My name is Dylan Johnson 22 with SEIU California. Can you hear me okay? 23 CHAIR FERNANDEZ: Yes, we can. 24 MR. JOHNSON: Terrific. Well, first and 25 foremost, I just want to thank the council for the CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 229 Napa Street, Rodeo, California 94572 (510) 224-4476 9 1 opportunity to give public comment today. 2 So, again, my name is Dylan Johnson. I’m with 3 SEIU California. I’m calling on behalf of our organization 4 and our over 700,000 members here in California. 5 So, I wanted to call in regards to Item 9A that 6 was on the agenda. It was titled “Impact of Census Delay 7 on CRC Calendar and Election Cycle.” 8 So, it is our understanding that the 9 Redistricting Commission is continuing its discussion 10 around the deadline to adopt its final maps. 11 So, I just wanted to raise a few concerns that we 12 have on our end. So, as an organization, SEIU California, 13 we are continually working to engage and mobilize voters 14 around election, and it has been consistently our 15 experience, you know, and position that any change in 16 primary dates can lead to a lot of voter confusion and 17 voter disenfranchisement, so we are particularly concerned 18 with, you know, the idea of moving back the June primary 19 date. 20 You know, the June primary is held the first week 21 in June and to sort of to move this back by a couple weeks 22 it would be something that virtually no California voter 23 has experience with, and so we really see this is going to 24 impact 22 million registered voters here in California, and 25 we are concerned that this would, you know, potentially CALIFORNIA REPORTING, LLC 229 Napa Street, Rodeo, California 94572 (510) 224-4476 10 1 confuse and, worse case, disenfranchise voters here in 2 California. 3 So, we see this as a very big deal and as 4 something that should be viewed as a last resort as opposed 5 to a, you know, the first option. 6 So, we really want to hear on that. And I know 7 there is concern and we were concerned around having the 8 redistricting process overlap with the holiday, and that’s 9 what some of this concern of moving it out is coming from. 10 That’s obviously not an ideal situation, but we do think 11 that there are steps that can be taken to mitigate the 12 impact of this process taking place over the holidays. 13 So, you know, some of our suggestion to the 14 Commission we wanted to present potentially requesting 15 additional supplemental outreach funds, you know, really 16 keying in on the schedule to avoid key dates that would be 17 problematic around the holidays, and, if needed, asking for 18 a short extension of time in order to avoid moving that 19 primary date of forcing voters to cast their ballot on the 20 date that’s unfamiliar.