S. HRG. 110–478 CONFIRMATION HEARING ON THE NOMINATION OF MICHAEL B. MUKASEY TO BE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED TENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION OCTOBER 17 AND OCTOBER 18, 2007 Serial No. J–110–51 Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary ( VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:11 Sep 04, 2008 Jkt 039985 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 6011 Sfmt 6011 S:\GPO\HEARINGS\39985.TXT SJUD1 PsN: CMORC CONFIRMATION HEARING ON THE NOMINATION OF MICHAEL B. MUKASEY TO BE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:11 Sep 04, 2008 Jkt 039985 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 6019 Sfmt 6019 S:\GPO\HEARINGS\39985.TXT SJUD1 PsN: CMORC S. HRG. 110–478 CONFIRMATION HEARING ON THE NOMINATION OF MICHAEL B. MUKASEY TO BE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED TENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION OCTOBER 17 AND OCTOBER 18, 2007 Serial No. J–110–51 Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary ( U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 39–985 PDF WASHINGTON : 2008 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512–1800; DC area (202) 512–1800 Fax: (202) 512–2104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402–0001 VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:11 Sep 04, 2008 Jkt 039985 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 S:\GPO\HEARINGS\39985.TXT SJUD1 PsN: CMORC COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY PATRICK J. LEAHY, Vermont, Chairman EDWARD M. KENNEDY, Massachusetts ARLEN SPECTER, Pennsylvania JOSEPH R. BIDEN, JR., Delaware ORRIN G. HATCH, Utah HERB KOHL, Wisconsin CHARLES E. GRASSLEY, Iowa DIANNE FEINSTEIN, California JON KYL, Arizona RUSSELL D. FEINGOLD, Wisconsin JEFF SESSIONS, Alabama CHARLES E. SCHUMER, New York LINDSEY O. GRAHAM, South Carolina RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois JOHN CORNYN, Texas BENJAMIN L. CARDIN, Maryland SAM BROWNBACK, Kansas SHELDON WHITEHOUSE, Rhode Island TOM COBURN, Oklahoma BRUCE A. COHEN, Chief Counsel and Staff Director MICHAEL O’NEILL, Republican Chief Counsel and Staff Director (II) VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:11 Sep 04, 2008 Jkt 039985 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 S:\GPO\HEARINGS\39985.TXT SJUD1 PsN: CMORC C O N T E N T S OCTOBER 17, 2007 STATEMENTS OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS Page Cardin, Hon. Benjamin L., a U.S. Senator from the State of Maryland, pre- pared statement ................................................................................................... 407 Leahy, Hon. Patrick J., a U.S. Senator from the State of Vermont .................... 1 prepared statement .......................................................................................... 436 Specter, Hon. Arlen, a U.S. Senator from the State of Pennsylvania ................. 4 PRESENTERS Lieberman, Hon. Joseph I., a U.S. Senator from the State of Connecticut presenting Michael B. Mukasey, Nominee to be Attorney General of the United States ........................................................................................................ 8 Schumer, Hon. Charles E., a U.S. Senator from the State of New York presenting Michael B. Mukasey, Nominee to be Attorney General of the United States ........................................................................................................ 6 STATEMENT OF THE NOMINEE Mukasey, Michael B., of New York, Nominee to be Attorney General of the United States ................................................................................................. 9 Questionnaire .................................................................................................... 12 OCTOBER 18, 2007 STATEMENTS OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS Feingold, Hon. Russell D., a U.S. Senator from the State of Wisconsin, pre- pared statement ................................................................................................... 418 Leahy, Hon. Patrick J., a U.S. Senator from the State of Vermont .................... 159 prepared statement .......................................................................................... 438 WITNESSES Canterbury, Chuck, National President, Fraternal Order of Police, Wash- ington, D.C. ........................................................................................................... 206 Hutson, John D., Rear Admiral, JAGC, USN (Ret.), President and Dean, Franklin Pierce Law Center, Concord, New Hampshire .................................. 208 Johnsen, Dawn, Professor, Indiana University School of Law, Bloomington, Indiana .................................................................................................................. 210 Martin, John S., Member, Martin & Obermaier, LLC, New York, New York ... 218 Shaw, Theodore, Director, Counsel, and President, NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Washington, D.C. ......................................................... 213 Thornburgh, Dick, former Governor of Pennsylvania, Of Counsel, K&L Gates, Washington, D.C. ................................................................................................. 203 White, Mary Jo, Partner, Debevoise & Plimpton, LLP, New York, New York .. 215 QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS Responses of Michael B. Mukasey to questions submitted by Senators Leahy, Kennedy, Biden, Kohl, Feinstein, Feingold, Schumer, Durbin, Cardin, Whitehouse, Grassley, Kyl, Graham, Levin, and Dorgan ................................. 231 (III) VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:11 Sep 04, 2008 Jkt 039985 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 S:\GPO\HEARINGS\39985.TXT SJUD1 PsN: CMORC IV Page SUBMISSIONS FOR THE RECORD Canterbury, Chuck, National President, Fraternal Order of Police, Wash- ington, D.C., statement ........................................................................................ 402 Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation, non-disclosure state- ment (sample) ....................................................................................................... 410 Durbin, Hon. Richard J., Hon. Patrick J. Leahy, Hon. Edward M. Kennedy, Hon. Joseph R. Biden, Jr., Hon. Herb Kohl, Hon. Dianne Feinstein, Hon. Russell D. Feingold, Hon. Charles E. Schumer, Hon. Benjamin L. Cardin, and Hon. Sheldon Whitehouse, joint letter to Judge Mukasey and his re- sponse .................................................................................................................... 411 Hutson, John D., Rear Admiral, JAGC, USN (Ret.), President and Dean, Franklin Pierce Law Center, Concord, New Hampshire, statement ............... 421 Johnsen, Dawn, Professor, Indiana University School of Law, Bloomington, Indiana, statement and attachment ................................................................... 425 Levin, Hon. Carl, a U.S. Senator from the State of Michigan and Chairman, Committee on Armed Services, letter to Judge Mukasey ................................. 440 Martin, John S., Member, Martin & Obermaier, LLC, New York, New York, statement .............................................................................................................. 442 Mukasey, Michael B., of New York, Nominee to be Attorney General of the United States, statement .............................................................................. 444 Shaw, Theodore, Director, Counsel, and President, NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Washington, D.C., statement ...................................... 447 Specter, Hon. Arlen: letter to Judge Mukasey and his response ..................................................... 458 letter to Hon. Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States, and his response. ........................................................................................... 463 Thornburgh, Dick, former Governor of Pennsylvania, Of Counsel, K&L Gates, Washington, D.C., statement .............................................................................. 469 Washington Post, October 12, 2007, editorial ....................................................... 474 White, Mary Jo, Partner, Debevoise & Plimpton, LLP, New York, New York, statement .............................................................................................................. 475 VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:11 Sep 04, 2008 Jkt 039985 PO 00000 Frm 00006 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 S:\GPO\HEARINGS\39985.TXT SJUD1 PsN: CMORC NOMINATION OF MICHAEL B. MUKASEY, OF NEW YORK, TO BE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 17, 2007 U.S. SENATE, COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, Washington, D.C. The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10 a.m., in room SH– 216, Hart Senate Office Building, Hon. Patrick J. Leahy, Chairman of the Committee, presiding. Present: Senators Leahy, Kohl, Feinstein, Feingold, Schumer, Durbin, Cardin, Whitehouse, Specter, Hatch, Grassley, Kyl, Ses- sions, Graham, Cornyn, Brownback, and Coburn. OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. PATRICK J. LEAHY, A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF VERMONT Chairman LEAHY. Before we start, just so everyone will under- stand, something that seems to be a relatively new phenomenon, at least in the years I have been in the Senate, are these dem- onstrations—choreographed, spontaneous demonstrations at hear- ings. Just so everybody understands, I want everybody to be able to watch this hearing. I do not want anybody in the audience to be blocked by anyone for any reason whatsoever. I want everybody to be able to watch it comfortably. I am directing the police that if anybody stands up and blocks the view of anybody in this hearing, that person will be removed. Now, if there are any demonstrations