THE HERALDRY OF THE TRIE FAMILY Steen Clemmensen, 2008 www.armorial.dk Members of the northern french family of Trie (dep Oise, arr Beauvais, can Chaumont-en-Vexin, cne Trié-Château), a cadet of the maison Beaumont-sur-Oise, has been cited 66 times in a number of medieval armorials, but which member is actually involved is often difficult to ascertain as the christian names Renaud, Jean and Mathieu and the additional names Billebaut and Patrouillart are endemic in the family. Heraldically speaking the coats-of.arms used are simple variations of the family arms: Or a bend azure. They use labels and minor charges to indicate cadency and also differentiation of the bend. The most significant differentiation is caused by the inheritance of the comté de Dammartin-en-Goële (dep Oise, arr. Meaux / Nanteuil-le-Haudoin) in 1259 by Mathieu S.Trie & Mouchy & Plessis-Billebaut (d.1272). Mathieu sealed with the arms of Dammartin: Barry argent and azure within a border gules. The arms with the bend compony fimbriated or simply compony was known early as bande de Dammartin, but not necessarily used by the comital branch only. In the following the coats-of-arms are coded as in Clemmensen OM, and for the sigla and abbreviations used see the lists and bibliography on www.armorial.dk. The pedigree used is taken from ESNF 3.4:645-648. An older pedigree is in Anselme 8:442 + 607 and 6:661-686. A different partial pedigree was proposed in Brault RAE 2:421-422 for the items in some english armorials (see the appended plate). The branch names used here are chosen for their convenience only. They can be misleading as some lordships were held in part and some titles changed, e.g. S.Trie and S.Mouchy held in the ‘Plessis line’ until Renaud (d.1324), who changed his title to S.Plessis-Billebaut & Mareuil, and the Mouchy title then being used by the distant cousins Jean (d.c.1368) and Mathieu (d.1360). The title was then recovered by Renaud dit Patrouillart (fl.1391) as he inherited the lordship. Assignment of arms to individuals or branches must often be tentative due to lack of evidence. Seals on fiscal or property documents are very valuable, but rarely available. Genealogical tables are of more limited value, as the user is often without knowledge of their documentation. Here we have an otherwise unknown, but documented Henri (WIN:5) outside the ESNF. Given such limitations, the reporting of the Trie family use of arms appears consistent and with few changes made by any individual. Thibaut S.Serifontaine (fl.1267-1302) might have changed from using the primary arms with a label to charging the bend with annulets or escallops. The family split into main branches only twice, firstly by Renaud S.Fontenay & Vaumain, brother of Mathieu C.Dammartin (d.1272), and secondly by the sons of Mathieu into the comital, Plessis- Billebaut and Serifontaine lines. By 1487 it became extinct in the male line. - - - Dieter Schwennicke, Freytag-Loringhoven FB, Isenburg WK: Europaische Stammtafeln, Neue Folge , I-XIX(+); Stammtafeln zur Geschichte Europäischer Staaten. [ESNF] - Marburg - 1990-2005. Pedigree of Trie * founder of a subline mentioned here Comital line Jean, d.1237, ∞ Aelise de Dammartin (d&h/ Renaud de Dammartin C.Boulogne j.u.), S.Trié & Mouchy-le-Chatel - Renaud*, fl.1219-1237, S.Fontenay & Vaumain + Mathieu, d.1272, C.Dammartin-en-Goële 1259 - Renaud, osp.1251, es + [Henri, fl.1282] + Simon, d.1275, 4s, canon + Thibaut*, 5s + Philippe*, ovp.c1271, 3s + Jean (II) dit Billebaut, 2C, d.1304, 2s - Jean, fl.1258-68, osp + Phil, d.1356, canon + Jean*, d.1327, S.Mouchy, senechal de Toulouse & Albi 1324 + Renaud (II), d.1318, 3C - Renaud (III), osp.1327, 4C + Jean (III), d.1338, 5C - Charles, ospm.>1368, 6C - Blanche, Cs, <1400 ∞ Charles Bureau de Rivière; Fontenay line (Fontenay en Vexin, dep Eure, arr les Andelys, can Écos) Renaud, fl.1219-1237, s/ Jean (d.1237) & Aelise, S.Fontenay & Vaumain, troubadour - Jean, fl.1303, bailli Auvergne + Phil, fl.1303 + Renaud*, d.1302, ∞ Jeanne de Hodenc, S.Vaumain + Mathieu, fl.1278-1306, ∞ Marie de Mouret, S.Fontenay & Plainville - Guil, d.1334, Bp.Bayeux + Jan, d.1327 + Mathieu, fl.1318-1324 - Renaud, fl.1355-56, S. Roé + Mathieu, fl.1326-58, ∞ Jeanne de Vieuxpont, S.Fontenay & Radeval - Jean, osp.1341, S.Fontenay + Renaud, fl.1378-90, S.Fontenay - Renaud, d.1413, ∞ Marie Hangest, S.Fontenay & Radeval & Senancourt, french councillor, chambrier - Mathieu, b.1379, d.>1413, es, canon, S.Fontenay &c + Guil, d.c1415, ys, ∞ ui Malet de Graville, chambellan du D.Orleans 1394 - Louis; Plessis line (Plessis-Billebaut) Philippe dit Bellibaut, ovp.c1271, 3s/ Mathieu (1C, d.1272), ∞ Aélis de Mareuil - Renaud (I), fl.1273-1298, 1285 ∞ Marguerite Courtenay (d.>1290), S.Plessis-Billebaut & Mouchy - Renaud (II) dit Bellibaus, d.1324, ∞ Isabelle de Heilly Dm.Mareuil, S.Plessis-Billebaut & Mouchy & Trie & Mareuil, marF 1316 - Renaud (IV) dit Billebaut, fl.1348-68, ospm, S.Fresnes & Quevremont & Quesnel + Philippe*, fl.1319-1337, S.Mareuil + J ean dit Billebaut, fl.1345-51, ys/ Renaud (d.1324), ∞ Clémence de Joigny, S.Plessis & Fresnes & Quesnel - Renaud sr gt Patrouillart, fl.1355-91, ∞ Jeanne de Posseux, S.Mouchy & Plessis-Billebaut - Renaud jr dit Patrouillart, d.1406, ∞ Marie de Clermont-Nesle, S.Mouchy & Plessis-Billebaut, chambrier 1399 - Jean S.Mouchy, 1397-1410.sp + Pierre gt P, kt, osp.1433 + Jeanne, fl.1407; Mouchy line (Mouchy-le-Châtel, dep Oise, arr Beauvais) Jean, osp.1327, s/ Jean (2C), S.Mouchy, senechal de Toulouse & Albi 1324 - Jean, d.c1368, ys, S.Mouchy, canon 1343 + Mathieu, osp.1360, es; Mareuil line Philippe, fl.1319-37, s/ Renaud (d.1324) & Isabelle Heilly Dm.Mareuil, ∞ Jeanne de Mareuil, S.Mareuil & Fontenay & Plessis-Billebaut - Renaud (V), fl.1338-57, ∞ Jacquette de Conflans, S.Mareuil & Maisières & Fontenay - Renaud (VI), osp, fl.1383, S.Maisières + Philippe, osp, fl.1364-99, S.mareuil & Fontenay; Serifontaine line (dep Oise, ar Beauvais, can le Coudray-St-Germer) -: Thibaut, fl.1303, 5s/ Mathieu (d.1272), <1267 ∞ Jeanne de Boury Dm.Serifontaine - Renaud dit Lohier, fl.1326-29, S.Seriontaine - Mathieu dit Lohier, fl.1355-81, S.Serifontaine - Jean S.Lattainville osp.c1400, 2s + Renaud jr, osp.1406, es, S.Mouchy & Plessis-Billebaut & Serifontaine, maitre des arbaletrieres 1394-97, amiral de France 1397, chambrier du roi de France 1399 + Jacq, d.1432, S.Serifontaine & Mareuil & Rouilleboise - Jean + Phil, ospm.1487; Vaumain line -: Mathieu, osp.1344, s/ Renaud S.Vaumain (d.1302) & Jeanne Hodenc, <1316 gm1/ Jeanne d'Airaines, 1332 gm2/ Ida Mauvoisin (d.1375, gm1/ Jean III C.Dreux), marF 1320, S.Vaumain & Airaines & Ronquerolles & Liancourt; Arms recorded in armorials a1 = Or bend azure Used by the senior branch: C.Dammartin & S.Trie & Mouchy-le-Châtel al. comitis de domno martino dedomini tria et de monchiaco, and by the Fontenay branch and on the extinction of the other branches by Serifontaine. a1 A 305 maheu de trie Mathieu, d.1272, C.Dammartin & S.Trie a1 BER 1472 ceulx de fontaines arms of S.Fontenay a1 BHM 1785 m de trye see ETO a1 CHA 107 armes de trie see URF a1 CLE 272 hr de fontenay Mathieu, fl.1306, S.Fontenay, panF a1 CPF 45 mesire mahiu de trie d'asur a une bande d'or Mathieu, fl.1306, S.Fontenay, panF a1 ETO 389 mes de trie arms of Trie or of the S.Fontenay a1 FW 479 maheu de trie Mathieu, d.1272, C.Dammartin & S.Trie a1 LBQ 6 le seigneur de trye see URF a1 LBR 154 de trie Mathieu, fl.1306, S.Fontenay, panF a1 NLU 493 hr de fontenay ab CLE a1 ORL 63 sr de trie de fontenay porte d'or a une bande d'azur ui Trie S.Fontenay, possibly Mathieu, fl.1326-1358 a1 PRT 18 le seigneur de trye, dor a le bende dazur, et crye boullongne. see URF a1 TCA 20 sire de trie Mathieu, d.1272, C.Dammartin & S.Trie - clem (TCA, 1269) -- hardly Gilbaut de Trie as in Willems a1 URF 5 le sire de trye, d or a le bande d azur, et crie boulongne ui S.Trie a1 VER 682 mahieu de trie Mathieu, fl.1306, S.Fontenay, panF a1 WIN 4 .. Mathieu, d.1272, C.Dammartin & S.Trie - also as WIN:2, s.n., with arms of Dammartin REF: - : XDD:688 (Mathieu, 1262, contra Dammartin) + 689 (Jean (II), s/ Mathieu, 1280, idem) + 3773 (Mathieu, 1234); XDF:55 (Mahieu S.Vaumain, marF, 1325); XDP:643 (Phil S.Serifontaine, 1472); RE: -: 3 bars & border = Charles de Trie C.Dammartin & S.Nesle, ∞ Jeanne d'Amboise, XDD:693, 1394; b1 = Or bend azure & label gules Used by sons of the senior line, incl. Thibaut S.Serifontaine. Henri (fl.1282) is not mentioned in ESNF. b1 C 129 reynalde de trie Renaud, d.1302, S.Vaumain - not Renaud, fl.1298, S.Plessis, s/ Phil (ovp.1272) as proposed by H.S.London. b1 CHA 110 trie fonteine see URF - escallops were probably inadvertently omitted in copying - clem b1 FW 480 tiebaus de trie Thibaut, fl.1267-1303, S.Serifontaine, also with annulets b1 WIN 5 henri de trie Henri, fl.1282, s/ Mathieu C.Dammartin (d.1272) REF: -: XDP:642 (Phil, 1251); XDD:3777 (Renaud, 1237); Adam-Jequier WIN 5 (sigil, Henri, 1282); c1 = Or bend compony argent-azure fimbriated gules Used by the Plessis-Billebaut line and its cadet Mareuil. c1 BHM 2994 m de patrollart Renaud sr dit Patrouillart S.Plessis & Mouchy, BHM segm, c1373-1400 c1 CHA 106 le sire de trie... crie boulogne. il porte bande de dammartin see URF c1 CLE 544 .