OVERSIGHT OF THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINIS- TRATION’S IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT GRANT PROGRAM (116–27) HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON HIGHWAYS AND TRANSIT OF THE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED SIXTEENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION JULY 16, 2019 Printed for the use of the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure ( Available online at: https://www.govinfo.gov/committee/house-transportation?path=/ browsecommittee/chamber/house/committee/transportation U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 40–698 PDF WASHINGTON : 2020 VerDate Aug 31 2005 09:07 Jul 06, 2020 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 P:\HEARINGS\116\HT\7-16-2~1\TRANSC~1\40698.TXT JEAN TRANSPC154 with DISTILLER COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE PETER A. DEFAZIO, Oregon, Chair ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, SAM GRAVES, Missouri District of Columbia DON YOUNG, Alaska EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, Texas ERIC A. ‘‘RICK’’ CRAWFORD, Arkansas ELIJAH E. CUMMINGS, Maryland BOB GIBBS, Ohio RICK LARSEN, Washington DANIEL WEBSTER, Florida GRACE F. NAPOLITANO, California THOMAS MASSIE, Kentucky DANIEL LIPINSKI, Illinois MARK MEADOWS, North Carolina STEVE COHEN, Tennessee SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey RODNEY DAVIS, Illinois JOHN GARAMENDI, California ROB WOODALL, Georgia HENRY C. ‘‘HANK’’ JOHNSON, JR., Georgia JOHN KATKO, New York ANDRE´ CARSON, Indiana BRIAN BABIN, Texas DINA TITUS, Nevada GARRET GRAVES, Louisiana SEAN PATRICK MALONEY, New York DAVID ROUZER, North Carolina JARED HUFFMAN, California MIKE BOST, Illinois JULIA BROWNLEY, California RANDY K. WEBER, SR., Texas FREDERICA S. WILSON, Florida DOUG LAMALFA, California DONALD M. PAYNE, JR., New Jersey BRUCE WESTERMAN, Arkansas ALAN S. LOWENTHAL, California LLOYD SMUCKER, Pennsylvania MARK DESAULNIER, California PAUL MITCHELL, Michigan STACEY E. PLASKETT, Virgin Islands BRIAN J. MAST, Florida STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts MIKE GALLAGHER, Wisconsin SALUD O. CARBAJAL, California, Vice Chair GARY J. PALMER, Alabama ANTHONY G. BROWN, Maryland BRIAN K. FITZPATRICK, Pennsylvania ADRIANO ESPAILLAT, New York JENNIFFER GONZA´ LEZ-COLO´ N, TOM MALINOWSKI, New Jersey Puerto Rico GREG STANTON, Arizona TROY BALDERSON, Ohio DEBBIE MUCARSEL-POWELL, Florida ROSS SPANO, Florida LIZZIE FLETCHER, Texas PETE STAUBER, Minnesota COLIN Z. ALLRED, Texas CAROL D. MILLER, West Virginia SHARICE DAVIDS, Kansas GREG PENCE, Indiana ABBY FINKENAUER, Iowa JESU´ S G. ‘‘CHUY’’ GARCI´A, Illinois ANTONIO DELGADO, New York CHRIS PAPPAS, New Hampshire ANGIE CRAIG, Minnesota HARLEY ROUDA, California (II) VerDate Aug 31 2005 09:07 Jul 06, 2020 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 0486 Sfmt 0486 P:\HEARINGS\116\HT\7-16-2~1\TRANSC~1\40698.TXT JEAN TRANSPC154 with DISTILLER SUBCOMMITTEE ON HIGHWAYS AND TRANSIT ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, District of Columbia, Chair EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, Texas RODNEY DAVIS, Illinois STEVE COHEN, Tennessee DON YOUNG, Alaska JOHN GARAMENDI, California ERIC A. ‘‘RICK’’ CRAWFORD, Arkansas HENRY C. ‘‘HANK’’ JOHNSON, JR., Georgia BOB GIBBS, Ohio JARED HUFFMAN, California DANIEL WEBSTER, Florida JULIA BROWNLEY, California THOMAS MASSIE, Kentucky FREDERICA S. WILSON, Florida MARK MEADOWS, North Carolina ALAN S. LOWENTHAL, California ROB WOODALL, Georgia MARK DESAULNIER, California JOHN KATKO, New York SALUD O. CARBAJAL, California BRIAN BABIN, Texas ANTHONY G. BROWN, Maryland DAVID ROUZER, North Carolina ADRIANO ESPAILLAT, New York MIKE BOST, Illinois TOM MALINOWSKI, New Jersey DOUG LAMALFA, California GREG STANTON, Arizona BRUCE WESTERMAN, Arkansas COLIN Z. ALLRED, Texas LLOYD SMUCKER, Pennsylvania SHARICE DAVIDS, Kansas PAUL MITCHELL, Michigan ABBY FINKENAUER, Iowa, Vice Chair MIKE GALLAGHER, Wisconsin JESU´ S G. ‘‘CHUY’’ GARCI´A, Illinois GARY J. PALMER, Alabama ANTONIO DELGADO, New York BRIAN K. FITZPATRICK, Pennsylvania CHRIS PAPPAS, New Hampshire TROY BALDERSON, Ohio ANGIE CRAIG, Minnesota ROSS SPANO, Florida HARLEY ROUDA, California PETE STAUBER, Minnesota GRACE F. NAPOLITANO, California CAROL D. MILLER, West Virginia ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey GREG PENCE, Indiana SEAN PATRICK MALONEY, New York SAM GRAVES, Missouri (Ex Officio) DONALD M. PAYNE, JR., New Jersey DANIEL LIPINSKI, Illinois DINA TITUS, Nevada STACEY E. PLASKETT, Virgin Islands PETER A. DEFAZIO, Oregon (Ex Officio) (III) VerDate Aug 31 2005 09:07 Jul 06, 2020 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 0486 Sfmt 0486 P:\HEARINGS\116\HT\7-16-2~1\TRANSC~1\40698.TXT JEAN TRANSPC154 with DISTILLER VerDate Aug 31 2005 09:07 Jul 06, 2020 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 0486 Sfmt 0486 P:\HEARINGS\116\HT\7-16-2~1\TRANSC~1\40698.TXT JEAN TRANSPC154 with DISTILLER CONTENTS Page Summary of Subject Matter .................................................................................... vii STATEMENTS OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE Hon. Eleanor Holmes Norton, a Delegate in Congress from the District of Columbia, and Chairwoman, Subcommittee on Highways and Transit: Opening statement ........................................................................................... 1 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 2 Hon. Rodney Davis, a Representative in Congress from the State of Illinois, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Highways and Transit: Opening statement ........................................................................................... 3 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 3 Hon. Peter A. DeFazio, a Representative in Congress from the State of Or- egon, and Chairman, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure: Opening statement ........................................................................................... 4 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 6 Hon. Sam Graves, a Representative in Congress from the State of Missouri, and Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, prepared statement .............................................................................................. 83 Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas, prepared statement .............................................................................. 83 WITNESSES PANEL 1 Hon. K. Jane Williams, Acting Administrator, Federal Transit Administra- tion: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 8 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 10 PANEL 2 Robert E. Alger, Chairman of the Board, The Lane Construction Corporation, on behalf of the American Road & Transportation Builders Association: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 43 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 44 Tom Gerend, Executive Director, Kansas City Streetcar Authority: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 53 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 55 Paul P. Skoutelas, President and Chief Executive Officer, American Public Transportation Association: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 60 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 62 SUBMISSIONS FOR THE RECORD Report, Subcommittee on Highways and Transit, Majority Staff, July 16, 2019, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Peter A. DeFazio .............................. 84 Statement of Randal O’Toole, Senior Fellow, Cato Institute, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Sam Graves of Missouri ..................................................... 87 APPENDIX Question from Hon. Peter A. DeFazio to Hon. K. Jane Williams, Acting Administrator, Federal Transit Administration ................................................ 91 (V) VerDate Aug 31 2005 09:07 Jul 06, 2020 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 P:\HEARINGS\116\HT\7-16-2~1\TRANSC~1\40698.TXT JEAN TRANSPC154 with DISTILLER VI Page Questions from Hon. Henry C. ‘‘Hank’’ Johnson, Jr. to Hon. K. Jane Williams, Acting Administrator, Federal Transit Administration .................................... 91 Questions from Hon. Alan S. Lowenthal to Hon. K. Jane Williams, Acting Administrator, Federal Transit Administration ................................................ 92 Questions from Hon. Sam Graves to Hon. K. Jane Williams, Acting Adminis- trator, Federal Transit Administration .............................................................. 92 Questions from Hon. Rodney Davis to Hon. K. Jane Williams, Acting Admin- istrator, Federal Transit Administration ........................................................... 93 Question from Hon. Rob Woodall to Hon. K. Jane Williams, Acting Adminis- trator, Federal Transit Administration .............................................................. 93 Question from Hon. Gary J. Palmer to Hon. K. Jane Williams, Acting Admin- istrator, Federal Transit Administration ........................................................... 94 Questions from Hon. Peter A. DeFazio to Robert E. Alger, Chairman of the Board, The Lane Construction Corporation, on behalf of the American