From: Sent: 10 September 2017 14:31 To: Flower, Tanya Cc: Payne, Chris; Lewis, Rhys; Prestwood, Mike; Jenkins, Christopher; Athow, Jonathan Subject: Re: Understanding the different approaches of measuring owner occupiers’ housing costs release While I remember: article on scanner data in 1/2017 Eurona. I have 2 spare copies near my desk if anybody wants one. Thanks Sent from my iPhone On 6 Sep 2017, at 08:36, Flower, Tanya <[email protected]> wrote: Eurostat are working towards producing a report by December 2018 on the feasibility of incorporating OOH(NA) into the HICP, initial discussions will take place at the next price stats working group meeting in November. I think the issue is more that the OOH(NA) indices are not strictly comparable at the moment (e.g. some countries inc us can't separate out land and house prices) The Jan article may also be able to provide some info on how the weights are derived: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/articles/understandingthedifferentappr oachesofmeasuringowneroccupiershousingcostsooh/weightsanalysis Thanks Tanya From: Sent: 05 September 2017 21:16 To: Flower, Tanya <[email protected]> Cc: Payne, Chris <[email protected]>; Lewis, Rhys <[email protected]>; Prestwood, Mike <[email protected]>; Jenkins, Christopher <[email protected]>; Athow, Jonathan <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Understanding the different approaches of measuring owner occupiers’ housing costs release Many thanks for this that I read. I flagged to and when we met that ONS produced all 3 'flavours' of CPIH, and followed this up. Just for interest have Eurostat got any closer to publishing CPIH (NA) ? since all member states now send OOH (NA) indices presumably one could be derived I've had a bit of a blank on the weights between the 3 approaches and how NA is derived but I can follow up in the compendium Sent from my iPhone On 5 Sep 2017, at 15:05, Flower, Tanya <[email protected]> wrote: All, 1 Please find attached the final draft of the Understanding the different approaches of measuring owner occupiers’ housing costs (OOH), UK: Quarter 2 (Apr to Jun) 2017 release, for comments by COP Wednesday 6th (publishing on the 12th). The spotlight section for this quarter provides some exploratory analysis of the impact of errors in the OOH stratum weights. , Jonathan ‐ copying you for reference, the data haven't changed much since the last quarter so the commentary has changed very little. Following on from previous discussions, I will set up a meeting with the OSR team to discuss how best to proceed with this commentary going forward (i.e. whether we need to continue producing this additional full text article, or whether we can reduce the content to avoid the repetition each quarter). Best wishes Tanya ____________________________________________________________________ __ Tanya Flower | Economic Advisor Prices Economic Analysis | Prices Division Office for National Statistics, Government Buildings, Cardiff Road, Newport, NP10 8XG | Email: [email protected] I am a friend of Spectrum; ONS LGBT network group 2 Title Difference Diffs betweDiffs btwn Difference Difference Differences between CPI and RPI - unrounded 2015=100 CDID DRA9 DRA5 DRA7 DRB2 DRA8 DRA3 Source datMM23 MM23 MM23 MM23 MM23 MM23 PreUnit Unit %%%%%% Release da18-07-201718-07-201718-07-201718-07-201718-07-201718-07-2017 Next releas15 August 15 August 15 August 15 August 15 August 15 August 2017 Important nFormula efMortgage i House pricOther Goods/servTotal 2005 JAN .49 1.11 .99 -.79 -.26 1.55 -.49 -1.11 -.99 .79 .26 -1.55 2005 FEB .51 1.11 .97 -.82 -.26 1.50 -.51 -1.11 -.97 .82 .26 -1.50 2005 MAR .53 .95 .90 -.82 -.24 1.32 -.53 -.95 -.90 .82 .24 -1.32 2005 APR .52 .95 .80 -.84 -.22 1.22 -.52 -.95 -.80 .84 .22 -1.22 2005 MAY .50 .94 .70 -.85 -.23 1.07 -.50 -.94 -.70 .85 .23 -1.07 2005 JUN .52 .77 .64 -.84 -.23 .86 -.52 -.77 -.64 .84 .23 -.86 2005 JUL .53 .59 .58 -.91 -.23 .57 -.53 -.59 -.58 .91 .23 -.57 2005 AUG .49 .59 .53 -1.01 -.23 .37 -.49 -.59 -.53 1.01 .23 -.37 2005 SEP .52 .29 .47 -.87 -.20 .20 -.52 -.29 -.47 .87 .20 -.20 2005 OCT .52 .28 .40 -.84 -.19 .17 -.52 -.28 -.40 .84 .19 -.17 2005 NOV .52 .27 .39 -.73 -.15 .29 -.52 -.27 -.39 .73 .15 -.29 2005 DEC .51 .26 .35 -.68 -.15 .30 -.51 -.26 -.35 .68 .15 -.30 2006 JAN .47 .27 .34 -.48 -.15 .45 -.47 -.27 -.34 .48 .15 -.45 2006 FEB .51 .26 .37 -.58 -.17 .39 -.51 -.26 -.37 .58 .17 -.39 2006 MAR .55 .26 .38 -.51 -.17 .51 -.55 -.26 -.38 .51 .17 -.51 2006 APR .51 .26 .39 -.48 -.16 .52 -.51 -.26 -.39 .48 .16 -.52 2006 MAY .54 .25 .44 -.37 -.14 .72 -.54 -.25 -.44 .37 .14 -.72 2006 JUN .52 .25 .44 -.33 -.13 .75 -.52 -.25 -.44 .33 .13 -.75 2006 JUL .54 .25 .44 -.25 -.12 .86 -.54 -.25 -.44 .25 .12 -.86 2006 AUG .54 .25 .47 -.21 -.10 .95 -.54 -.25 -.47 .21 .10 -.95 2006 SEP .57 .63 .49 -.37 -.10 1.22 -.57 -.63 -.49 .37 .10 -1.22 2006 OCT .55 .65 .52 -.38 -.11 1.22 -.55 -.65 -.52 .38 .11 -1.22 2006 NOV .55 .65 .53 -.42 -.12 1.20 -.55 -.65 -.53 .42 .12 -1.20 2006 DEC .57 .86 .56 -.41 -.11 1.46 -.57 -.86 -.56 .41 .11 -1.46 2007 JAN .59 .90 .59 -.43 -.12 1.53 -.59 -.90 -.59 .43 .12 -1.53 2007 FEB .55 1.09 .62 -.37 -.10 1.78 -.55 -1.09 -.62 .37 .10 -1.78 2007 MAR .57 1.09 .65 -.43 -.12 1.75 -.57 -1.09 -.65 .43 .12 -1.75 2007 APR .60 1.09 .62 -.48 -.05 1.77 -.60 -1.09 -.62 .48 .05 -1.77 2007 MAY .59 1.11 .62 -.48 -.04 1.79 -.59 -1.11 -.62 .48 .04 -1.79 2007 JUN .64 1.29 .64 -.48 -.06 2.04 -.64 -1.29 -.64 .48 .06 -2.04 2007 JUL .54 1.31 .67 -.44 -.07 2.00 -.54 -1.31 -.67 .44 .07 -2.00 2007 AUG .57 1.51 .69 -.40 -.08 2.29 -.57 -1.51 -.69 .40 .08 -2.29 2007 SEP .60 1.30 .68 -.29 -.08 2.21 -.60 -1.30 -.68 .29 .08 -2.21 2007 OCT .60 1.28 .67 -.31 -.09 2.15 -.60 -1.28 -.67 .31 .09 -2.15 2007 NOV .59 1.28 .67 -.26 -.08 2.20 -.59 -1.28 -.67 .26 .08 -2.20 2007 DEC .55 1.07 .65 -.23 -.09 1.95 -.55 -1.07 -.65 .23 .09 -1.95 2008 JAN .59 .86 .68 -.15 -.10 1.87 -.59 -.86 -.68 .15 .10 -1.87 2008 FEB .59 .67 .60 -.13 -.12 1.61 -.59 -.67 -.60 .13 .12 -1.61 2008 MAR .55 .46 .56 -.13 -.11 1.34 -.55 -.46 -.56 .13 .11 -1.34 2008 APR .52 .45 .51 -.12 -.15 1.21 -.52 -.45 -.51 .12 .15 -1.21 2008 MAY .52 .23 .48 -.11 -.17 .95 -.52 -.23 -.48 .11 .17 -.95 2008 JUN .54 .05 .41 -.05 -.17 .78 -.54 -.05 -.41 .05 .17 -.78 2008 JUL .53 .04 .30 -.09 -.18 .60 -.53 -.04 -.30 .09 .18 -.60 2008 AUG .49 -.17 .23 -.28 -.21 .07 -.49 .17 -.23 .28 .21 -.07 2008 SEP .46 -.18 .17 -.41 -.26 -.22 -.46 .18 -.17 .41 .26 .22 2008 OCT .47 -.17 .05 -.26 -.29 -.21 -.47 .17 -.05 .26 .29 .21 2008 NOV .46 -.62 -.07 -.49 -.34 -1.05 -.46 .62 .07 .49 .34 1.05 2008 DEC .49 -1.69 -.24 -.39 -.30 -2.12 -.49 1.69 .24 .39 .30 2.12 2009 JAN .46 -2.08 -.35 -.57 -.32 -2.86 -.46 2.08 .35 .57 .32 2.86 2009 FEB .49 -2.40 -.35 -.57 -.31 -3.14 -.49 2.40 .35 .57 .31 3.14 2009 MAR .48 -2.47 -.48 -.52 -.27 -3.26 -.48 2.47 .48 .52 .27 3.26 2009 APR .54 -2.76 -.60 -.37 -.26 -3.44 -.54 2.76 .60 .37 .26 3.44 2009 MAY .50 -2.57 -.61 -.36 -.20 -3.23 -.50 2.57 .61 .36 .20 3.23 2009 JUN .43 -2.57 -.60 -.51 -.15 -3.39 -.43 2.57 .60 .51 .15 3.39 2009 JUL .50 -2.59 -.53 -.48 -.09 -3.20 -.50 2.59 .53 .48 .09 3.20 2009 AUG .55 -2.60 -.46 -.36 -.02 -2.89 -.55 2.60 .46 .36 .02 2.89 2009 SEP .55 -2.61 -.44 -.09 .07 -2.52 -.55 2.61 .44 .09 -.07 2.52 2009 OCT .55 -2.63 -.24 -.13 .13 -2.33 -.55 2.63 .24 .13 -.13 2.33 2009 NOV .54 -2.24 -.15 .07 .15 -1.64 -.54 2.24 .15 -.07 -.15 1.64 2009 DEC .54 -1.24 .04 .08 .10 -.48 -.54 1.24 -.04 -.08 -.10 .48 2010 JAN .59 -.70 .14 .14 .09 .26 -.59 .70 -.14 -.14 -.09 -.26 2010 FEB .67 -.41 .24 .13 .09 .73 -.67 .41 -.24 -.13 -.09 -.73 2010 MAR .73 -.14 .37 .07 .06 1.09 -.73 .14 -.37 -.07 -.06 -1.09 2010 APR .77 .15 .47 .13 .09 1.62 -.77 -.15 -.47 -.13 -.09 -1.62 2010 MAY .80 .15 .50 .13 .09 1.68 -.80 -.15 -.50 -.13 -.09 -1.68 2010 JUN .84 .15 .56 .18 .07 1.79 -.84 -.15 -.56 -.18 -.07 -1.79 2010 JUL .86 .17 .57 .12 .00 1.72 -.86 -.17 -.57 -.12 .00 -1.72 2010 AUG .86 .17 .54 .07 -.07 1.58 -.86 -.17 -.54 -.07 .07 -1.58 2010 SEP .90 .18 .56 .06 -.13 1.56 -.90 -.18 -.56 -.06 .13 -1.56 2010 OCT .91 .16 .42 .04 -.15 1.38 -.91 -.16 -.42 -.04 .15 -1.38 2010 NOV .94 .17 .40 .09 -.15 1.43 -.94 -.17 -.40 -.09 .15 -1.43 2010 DEC .86 .15 .32 -.15 -.14 1.05 -.86 -.15 -.32 .15 .14 -1.05 2011 JAN .88 .15 .27 -.05 -.14 1.12 -.88 -.15 -.27 .05 .14 -1.12 2011 FEB 1.02 .16 .18 -.09 -.12 1.15 -1.02 -.16 -.18 .09 .12 -1.15 2011 MAR 1.03 .15 .14 .05 -.09 1.28 -1.03 -.15 -.14 -.05 .09 -1.28 2011 APR 1.01 .14 .01 -.32 -.11 .74 -1.01 -.14 -.01 .32 .11 -.74 2011 MAY 1.00 .13 -.04 -.19 -.16 .74 -1.00 -.13 .04 .19 .16 -.74 2011 JUN .99 .13 -.08 -.06 -.21 .76 -.99 -.13 .08 .06 .21 -.76 2011 JUL .94 .10 -.10 -.18 -.22 .54 -.94 -.10 .10 .18 .22 -.54 2011 AUG .99 .07 -.12 -.06 -.21 .67 -.99 -.07 .12 .06 .21 -.67 2011 SEP .97 .07 -.13 -.28 -.19 .44 -.97 -.07 .13 .28 .19 -.44 2011 OCT 1.00 .04 -.11 -.30 -.20 .43 -1.00 -.04 .11 .30 .20 -.43 2011 NOV .99 .06 -.10 -.34 -.18 .42 -.99 -.06 .10 .34 .18 -.42 2011 DEC 1.02 .04 -.10 -.16 -.18 .62 -1.02 -.04 .10 .16 .18 -.62 2012 JAN .94 .03 -.08 -.44 -.11 .34 -.94 -.03 .08 .44 .11 -.34 2012 FEB .90 .03 -.07 -.46 -.12 .28 -.90 -.03 .07 .46 .12 -.28 2012 MAR .93 .02 -.05 -.62 -.14 .13 -.93 -.02 .05 .62 .14 -.13 2012 APR .92 .02 .01 -.36 -.21 .37 -.92 -.02 -.01 .36 .21 -.37 2012 MAY .91 .03 .01 -.47 -.21 .28 -.91 -.03 -.01 .47 .21 -.28 2012 JUN .93 .04 .04 -.53 -.15 .33 -.93 -.04 -.04 .53 .15 -.33 2012 JUL .95 .06 .08 -.43 -.10 .57 -.95 -.06 -.08 .43 .10 -.57 2012 AUG .88 .09 .06 -.52 -.06 .45 -.88 -.09 -.06 .52 .06 -.45 2012 SEP .89 .09 .08 -.54 -.06 .44 -.89 -.09 -.08 .54 .06 -.44 2012