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So and that's the bottom line and they'll be some wrestling news today and that fits in with the program and you can look for posts on Facebook Sally goldner page and out of the pan 3cr 855 am Melbourne remembering that Opinions expressed on the show are my own and I will give possible content warnings for mention of topics because I'll choose my guests in the minute and tell me why these content warnings may come up is that there could be mentions of biphobia by a razor mental health issues family, including intimate partner violence and sexual harassment. Well, two things opened up with cold chisel the The things I love in you and there's going to be lots of music from albums released on the mushroom label this classic Ozzy. Rock fan has to do that in honor of the late Michael kadinsky. That's from the last wave of summer when cultures or reformed in jewelry grouped in 1998 and a great album there and we've had a Conte request coming. It's I feel like I feel like Casey Kasem. This is our long-distance dedication. Hopefully said, is it too late to request the ultimate collaboration between Jimmy Barnes in an excess good time. And we will play that in the next couple of weeks is plenty of mushroom music to play and I'm not sure I'm going to get through all my selected playlists today because we have an awesome guest as part of by Sexual Health Awareness Month I have on the zoom line and tapping in to the technology the president of bisexual Alliance Victoria Rebecca Dominguez declaring my interest as a Committee Member of violence Rebecca a good to have you on out of the pan on this long weekend as part of by Health Awareness Month. Thank you so much and I will ask if it's okay to ask which pronouns you use if any will get this right in the end technology stuff. Anyway, there's lots to talk about as part of by health awareness month. And well I said I'll start off by saying that we have to congratulate WWE announced that and interviewer Kayla Braxton on coming at us by Walt least I am because this Sports entertainment fan will do that. But well, I suppose the unfortunate side of it which can lead into why we need to buy health awareness month is sadly. She copped some stuff and deleted her Twitter account not long. Oh doing that and there's the possibility. I will say In fairness that that was biphobia and I think sadly as much as we all want to be happy and healthy and valued diversity reality and realism say that by health awareness month comes out in part because of biphobia Rebecca, I think well take it from sadly take it from there. All right. Thanks Sally. So I think the first thing to talk about is the size of the bisexual population. So we multiple Is have across Australia and internationally have shown that bisexual people make up the majority and and I'm using bisexual but really what I should be saying is by Plus or even multi-gender attracted people. So anyone who identifies as being attracted to more than one gender which includes pansexual people queer people polysexual and a lot of other labels. It's about attraction and that can be sexual and or romantic. It doesn't necessarily have to be both well, At the same time to the same degree. Yeah, so so we've got in studies of somewhere between 3 to 11 percent of people identifying as bisexual. However, if we look at multi- gender attraction and people talking about who they're attracted to it somewhere between nine percent of men and 19 percent of women, which means that there's a round 2.5 million to 3 million Australians who Identify as bi bi Plus or multi-gender attracted and that's actually a fairly substantial amount of people in Australia who fall under this multi-gender attracted umbrella. So they can they can experience some of the the health stuff that I'm going to be talking about next and a lot of the health stuff is not because bisexual people are intrinsic or most gender attracted people or pansexual people are Equally problematic themselves is because Society is quite biphobic and queer phobic and pan phobic when people do not fit into neat boxes or are different in some way then Society tends to make life difficult for them. Hmm. I think it's really important as well to point out that one study in Canada identified that 25% of bisexual people identified as trans or non-binary. So there's a Number of trans and non-binary people who are multi gender attracted and and a lot of A lot of bike park people. So a lot of people who are not white who tend to identify as bisexual versus gay or lesbian as well. So By plus multi-gender Attractive people are more likely to belong to multiple marginalized group groups in society. And that that compounds issues. Obviously. Yeah a few things to come out of just, you know, sort of flesh out that I'm going to start. I think I probably feel I need to acknowledge my privilege as someone who is white non-indigenous. Not that I use these words for myself, but people would reasonably see me as middle-class Anglo-Saxon that sort of thing. Also, of course in terms of Finding you can of course have no label at all, which is perfectly fine as well. And yes this by pan and trans woman certainly fits that intersection from the Canadian research as well and sort of had a small inward gleeful smile. Oh Matt that but it does bring up a really important question. And I sometimes say this as an educator when trans, you know, the conservative estimate, we've got to adjust the trans population shifting onto that for a sec just for a second is around 1.2 percent. So that's 250. Fifty thousand Australians now, I'm ignoring intersectionality there and you've just said there was and what was the number of Australians you were thinking of based on that research that could be there it between two point five and three million. Okay. So let's sort of allow for intersectionality there. Well, you know, we'll talk somewhere around the three million Mark obviously have to just get my Venn diagram calculator out for a second. I always say where are all these people you know on both. Both groups, you know if that's the numbers we've got if that's the random representative samples. Where are they? Which didn't it in in a way links into our issues of by health month that they're feeling disconnected isolated arised all that sort of thing and that can lead to these health issues definitely and one of the other things that a lot of people try and point out as a kind of gotcha to the vacuum energy is like well most of you end up in different gendered relationship, so therefore Doesn't matter. Are you really a member of the rainbow communities because you're in a relationship with someone where it you look like.