Daytona Beach Housing Authority Special Board Meeting June 25, 2021 9:09 A.M. Terril Bates: Good morning. Kim Brown-Crawford: Good morning. Rick Gilmore: Good morning. Kim Brown-Crawford: Good morning. Kelvin Daniels: All right. So, good morning all. This is a special--I guess a special board meeting. Today is Friday, June 25, 2021. So, we have Holly for an hour and 45 minutes? Okay. All right. So, then, BCG, go ahead and get started. Rick Gilmore: Could I--if you don't mind, Holly, could I make a couple of comments before you get started? Holly? Holly Knight: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Rick Gilmore: Oh, I'm sorry. Holly Knight: I thought you were waiting--. Rick Gilmore: --Terril--. Holly Knight: --Okay--. Rick Gilmore: --Tell me sooner or later to move closer to the mic. Terril Bates: Okay. 1 Holly Knight: Well, first of all, I would like to say thank you--. Rick Gilmore: --Holly. Kim Brown-Crawford: No. No. No. No. Rick Gilmore: Holly. Holly Knight: Yes? Rick Gilmore: I asked could I make just a couple of really quick comments just before you get started. Holly Knight: Sure. No problem. Rick Gilmore: I'll be--. Holly Knight: --This is your meeting. Rick Gilmore: I'll be--no, it's not my meeting, but I'll be uncommonly brief. The reason why I suggested--because I don't want this to be perceived as my meeting, but the reason I suggested--. Kim Brown-Crawford: --Terril said it--. Rick Gilmore: --That this occur is because-- Terril Bates: --They can't hear you if you're not talking into that mic. Rick Gilmore: The reason why I suggested that this occur is because last Friday, it became apparent that there's confusion, maybe not enough information about what needs to happen about the family deal. I believe there isn't much confusion about the WM except for the elevator issue. 2 But rather than just continue to have confusion, you putting in your time, your effort, we need to have the opportunity for everyone to get enough information to move forward and so you have clear understanding of what the board's desire is. So, I suggested that we have this meeting so we could get clarity. So, this is everybody's opportunity to ask questions. And I wanted to say at the beginning, since I did say I thought we ought to have this meeting, commissioners, we need to make sure we understand that this is not a game. This is serious. Automated Voice: Recording in progress. Rick Gilmore: Oh, good. I wasn't recording before I got to that. This is serious. We said we wanted to do development. We're near the end of one of our development deals. If we're going to be serious about this, we got to get a course and stay the course. But on your end, you must have enough information, I understand that. Now's the opportunity. I was hopeful that all commissioners could be here so all questions could be asked, any unreadiness could be addressed, and any ramifications of not moving forward on the family deal could be discussed. That's one of the reasons why I suggested that there be a sheet that kind of had the pros and cons and whatever could occur if in fact we moved ahead or you didn't move ahead. 3 So, Holly, thank you for letting me kind of give that preview because we didn't get a chance to talk. I wanted you to know what my thought was--is this is your opportunity to answer questions. It's their opportunity to ask questions, so we're not kind of--we don't have unreadiness as we move forward. So, that was the only thing I wanted to make sure I put on the record in the beginning. And thank you, Holly, for letting me use some of your time to do that. Kim Brown-Crawford: Do we have that pros and cons sheet? Holly Knight: Yeah, no problem. I was just going to ask the commissioners to also just kind of recap to make sure I--. Kim Brown-Crawford: --We need to do roll call--. Holly Knight: --That I cover everything in the presentation this morning. Can we just get a roundtable and just give me some of your, you know, top three concerns or questions or things that you're confused about just to make sure that I cover them? Terril Bates: Okay. Holly, I appreciate that, but we really need to officially start the meeting and get a roll call. And then, I think you would be ready to go. Holly Knight: Okay. No problem. Kelvin Daniels: All right. So, we introduced this meeting already. We don't have minutes. So, we'll go ahead and just get a--. 4 Kim Brown-Crawford: --Can we have an invocation--? Kelvin Daniels: --Invocation from Commissioner Brown- Crawford. Kim Brown-Crawford: Okay. Thank you, chair. Gracious Father, thank you for this day. Lord God, we thank you for this board and we pray that the time that we're here, that it be productive and understanding. Lord God, we also want to pray for the community of Daytona Beach. We want to pray for the officer that was shot a few nights ago. We want to pray for his family as our community goes through this together. In Jesus's name I pray, amen. Kelvin Daniels: Amen. Rick Gilmore: And if I may, this is a special board meeting. So, we at least have to ask if there's any public forum. Kelvin Daniels: Also, (INAUDIBLE). Rick Gilmore: That's correct. Kelvin Daniels: All right. No problem. All right. So, then, we have any public comments? Seeing and hearing none, then--well, do we have any visitors present? Rick Gilmore: Roll call, too. Kelvin Daniels: All right. Seeing and hearing none, we'll go ahead and take our attendance, Ms. Walker. Lateisha Walker: Commissioner Jass. 5 Sally Jass: Here. Lateisha Walker: Commissioner Jamison. Commissioner Ivey. Hemis Ivey: Here. Lateisha Walker: Commissioner Brown-Crawford. Kim Brown-Crawford: Here. Lateisha Walker: Commissioner Daniels. Kelvin Daniels: I'm here. All right. So, now--. Terril Bates: --Commissioner--I'm sorry. Can we just let the record reflect that Marty Walsh and Jonathan Flugstad from Reno & Cavanaugh are also on the Zoom call? Kelvin Daniels: Are they? Okay. Terril Bates: They're not showing, but they're there. Thank you. Kelvin Daniels: All right. So, now, Ms. Knight, I think all particulars are taken care of. So, we'll go ahead and hear from you. You were saying something about a roundtable and any concerns that commissioners might have. So--. Holly Knight: --Yes. Can we just start a little dialogue about--like, maybe if you could pick your top three issues to make sure that I cover them today? You know, each of you probably has different questions or different points of view. And so, if we could just go around the table and if you could just share with me a little bit about what's on your mind, what are your questions, and what are your concerns. 6 Maybe--you know, let's start with the top three. Kelvin Daniels: All right. So, does anybody have any list of concerns that they want to have Ms. Knight address? We'll go ahead and take them in order. Ms. Jass. Sally Jass: I don't know. It's--one of the main concerns about--is that not knowing exactly when everything's going to start. I know that it can't be helped but it still, I think, makes it a little more anxiety and frustrating. And especially with the tenants, too. That's all I really--my concern. Rick Gilmore: Commissioner Jass? Sally Jass: Yes. Rick Gilmore: Is that about the family sites or just in general? Sally Jass: Just in general. Rick Gilmore: Okay. Would you cut your mic off? Holly Knight: Okay. I can appreciate that. And certainly, after working on these deals for so many years and working directly with the resident groups, I think that your concern is very valid. And I know it's even frustrating for me. So, I will talk a little bit more about the uncertainties. And I really appreciate that. Thank you, Commissioner Brown- Crawford. Kelvin Daniels: No, that was Commissioner Jass. Commissioner Brown-Crawford is up now. She has some concerns. 7 Holly Knight: Oh, I'm so sorry. Kim Brown-Crawford: She's taller than me. Holly Knight: I can't--I actually can't see. Now I can, Terril. I can see a little bit more now. Kim Brown-Crawford: Good morning, Holly. So, this would be related to the family site. There's a couple of different things. I had a meeting last night and just a project came up. Two things. And I was able to address this with the group, you know, based on what they saw of the family sites. They sort of felt like we were just putting a Band-Aid on the buildings. And I had to explain to them that we could not just tear those down and start over because of where they're located and the HUD and the Faircloth group. So, I was able to address that. And I--you know, I told them, they can go, you know, do some research on that, but we could talk about that for, you know, a long time why we can't just demolish those.