32 T2003/4 TYNWALD COURT, THURSDAY, 13th JULY 2006 1645 T123 Volume 123, No. 25 ISSN 1742-2256 T Y N W A L D C O U R T O F F I C I A L R E P O R T R E C O R T Y S O I K O I L Q U A I Y L T I N V A A L P R O C E E D I N G S D A A L T Y N (HANSARD) Douglas, Thursday, 13th July 2006 Published by the Office of the Clerk of Tynwald, Legislative Buildings, Bucks Road, Douglas, Isle of Man. © Court of Tynwald, 2006 Printed by The Copy Shop Limited, 48 Bucks Road, Douglas, Isle of Man Price Band F 1646 T123 TYNWALD COURT, THURSDAY, 13th JULY 2006 Present: The President of Tynwald (The Hon. N Q Cringle) In the Council: The Lord Bishop of Sodor and Man (The Rt. Rev. Graeme Knowles), The Attorney General (Mr W J H Corlett QC), Mr D Butt, Mrs C M Christian, Mrs P M Crowe, Hon. A F Downie, The Chief Minister (Hon. D J Gelling CBE), Mr E G Lowey, Mr L Singer and Mr G H Waft, with Mrs M Cullen, Deputy Clerk of Tynwald. In the Keys: The Speaker (The Hon. J A Brown) (Castletown); Hon. D M Anderson (Glenfaba); Hon. A R Bell and Mrs A V Craine (Ramsey); Mr W E Teare (Ayre); Mr J D Q Cannan (Michael); Mrs H Hannan (Peel); Hon. S C Rodan (Garff); Mr P Karran and Mr A J Earnshaw (Onchan); Mr J R Houghton and Mr R W Henderson (Douglas North); Hon. D C Cretney and Mr A C Duggan (Douglas South); Hon. R P Braidwood and Mrs B J Cannell (Douglas East); Hon. J P Shimmin (Douglas West); Capt. A C Douglas (Malew and Santon); Hon. J Rimington,Mr Q B Gill and Hon. P A Gawne (Rushen); with Mr M Cornwell-Kelly, Clerk of Tynwald. Business transacted Page Orders of the Day Leave of absence granted ................................................................................................................................................ 1647 18. Select Committee on Scrutiny and the Functions of the Standing Committee on Expenditure and Public Accounts – Report received and recommendations approved ....................................................................... 1647 25. Pension Schemes Act 1995 – Pension Schemes Act 1993 (Application) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 2006 approved ................................................................................................................................................. 1666 26. Pension Schemes Act 1995 – Pensions Act 1995 (Application) (Amendment) (No. 3) Order 2006 approved ........ 1666 27. Social Security Act 2000 – Social Security Legislation (Application) (Amendment) (No. 3) Order 2006 approved ................................................................................................................................................ 1666 28. Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 – Income Support (General) (Isle of Man) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2006 approved ........................................................................................................................... 1667 29. Local Government (Entertainments) Act 1950 – Local Government (Expenditure on Entertainments) Order 2006 – Debate commenced .............................................................................................................................. 1667 Clarification on Legal Aid question – Statement by the President ................................................................................. 1670 The Court adjourned at 1.09 p.m. and resumed its sitting at 2.30 p.m. Local Government (Expenditure on Entertainments) Order 2006 – Debate continued – Amended motion carried ... 1670 30. Moneylenders Act 1991 – Moneylenders (Exempt Persons) (No. 1) Regulations 2006 approved .......................... 1671 14. Police Advisory Group – Report and recommendation – Debate resumed .............................................................. 1671 Welcome to St Ninian’s School ...................................................................................................................................... 1672 Police Advisory Group – Debate continued – Motion carried .................................................................................. 1672 31. Principal Civil Service Pension Schemes – Investigation by committee – Motion carried ...................................... 1675 Announcement re Martyn Quayle, MHK ....................................................................................................................... 1686 Principal Civil Service Pension Schemes – Committee of three appointed ............................................................. 1687 32. E-commerce and the internet – Motion withdrawn .................................................................................................. 1687 33. Manx National Heritage – Lack of political accountability – Debate commenced .................................................. 1687 The Court adjourned at 5.07 p.m. and resumed its sitting at 5.30 p.m. 33. Manx National Heritage – Debate continued – Amended motion carried ................................................................ 1690 34. Manx Radio ‘Mannin Line’ – Re-introduction for General Election – Motion lost ................................................. 1698 35. Queen’s Pier, Ramsey – DoLGE enforcement of listed building policy – Motion lost ............................................ 1703 President’s tribute to former Messenger, John Crooks ................................................................................................... 1708 Thanks from the President .............................................................................................................................................. 1708 The Council withdrew. House of Keys Thanks from the Speaker ................................................................................................................................................ 1708 The House adjourned at 7.46 p.m. Orders of the Day TYNWALD COURT, THURSDAY, 13th JULY 2006 1647 T123 approved (or which have been laid before Tynwald in Tynwald draft form, prior to consideration by Tynwald) which have been referred by Members, or as the Committee sees fit: The Court met at 10.30 a.m. and to report with or without recommendations each July, and such other times as the Committee deem necessary.’ [MR PRESIDENT in the Chair] and (b) the Tynwald Standing Orders Committee should report to Tynwald on an amendment to Standing Orders PRAYERS which would give effect to the procedure set out in The Lord Bishop paragraph 19.4 above. Recommendation 4: International Agreements – When an international agreement is to be included on the Council of Ministers’ agenda: LEAVE OF ABSENCE GRANTED (a) a copy should be circulated to all Members of Tynwald for information, wherever practicable, or The President: Now, Hon. Members, the Chief Minister, (b) if that is not practicable, then a copy should be Mr Attorney and the Hon. Minister for the Treasury, Mr Bell, deposited in the Members’ Room and Members so will be leaving us later during today’s sitting on Government informed at once, and business and, as I understand it, I think the Minister for (c) when the agreement has been signed, a copy should Health and Social Security will be rejoining us later. be placed in the Tynwald Library for access by the general public. Recommendation 5: Remit of the Standing Committee on Constitutional Matters – The remit of the Standing Committee on Constitutional Orders of the Day Matters should be amended to read as follows: ‘to consider and report on – (a) the Council of Ministers’ policy and approach to Select Committee on Scrutiny and the Functions matters of constitutional importance, and of the Standing Committee (b) any treaties, international agreements etc which on Expenditure and Public Accounts have been referred to the committee by a Member of Report received and recommendations approved Tynwald, and the Members of the Committee shall not be members of 18. The Chair of the Committee (Mr Speaker) to move: the Constitutional and External Relations Committee of the Council of Ministers.’ That the Report of the Select Committee on Scrutiny and Recommendation 6: Lay Members – the Functions of the Standing Committee on Expenditure Lay members should not be appointed as members of and Public Accounts be received and the following committees, but Committees should retain the powers recommendations approved – they already have to appoint specialist assistance whenever a Committee feels it is necessary. Recommendation 1: Membership of Committees – Recommendation 7: Auditor General – (a) the President and Ministers should not be eligible for An Auditor General should be appointed. appointment to any Scrutiny Committee, and Recommendation 8: Responsibilities which the Auditor (b) the President, the Speaker, Ministers and Treasury General’s Office would undertake – members should not be eligible for appointment to the The Auditor General would undertake responsibility for Public Accounts Committee. the following functions: Recommendation 2: Scrutiny Committee – (a) Ultimate responsibility for auditing all statutory A Standing Committee on Scrutiny should be established bodies (including local authorities), with the power and the remit of this committee should include to delegate some of the audit work to firms of local consideration of: accountants; (i) items of approved secondary legislation which have (b) Value for Money Investigations. been referred by Members; and (c) Regular consultation with the PAC and provision of (ii) other items of secondary legislation as the committee assistance with investigations. sees fit. (d) Identification of issues