Second Session - Thirty-Eighth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable George Hickes Speaker Vol. LV No. 52A - 10 a.m., Wednesday, June 9, 2004 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Eighth Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation AGLUGUB, Cris The Maples N.D.P. ALLAN, Nancy, Hon. St. Vital N.D.P. ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley N.D.P. ASHTON, Steve, Hon. Thompson N.D.P. BJORNSON, Peter, Hon. Gimli N.D.P. BRICK, Marilyn St. Norbert N.D.P. CALDWELL, Drew Brandon East N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave, Hon. Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen Ste. Rose P.C. DERKACH, Leonard Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary, Hon. Concordia N.D.P. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. EICHLER, Ralph Lakeside P.C. FAURSCHOU, David Portage la Prairie P.C. GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin Steinbach P.C. HAWRANIK, Gerald Lac du Bonnet P.C. HICKES, George, Hon. Point Douglas N.D.P. IRVIN-ROSS, Kerri Fort Garry N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. JHA, Bidhu Radisson N.D.P. KORZENIOWSKI, Bonnie St. James N.D.P. LAMOUREUX, Kevin Inkster Lib. LATHLIN, Oscar, Hon. The Pas N.D.P. LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. La Verendrye N.D.P. LOEWEN, John Fort Whyte P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns N.D.P. MAGUIRE, Larry Arthur-Virden P.C. MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McGIFFORD, Diane, Hon. Lord Roberts N.D.P. MELNICK, Christine, Hon Riel N.D.P. VACANT Minto MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East P.C. MURRAY, Stuart Kirkfield Park P.C. NEVAKSHONOFF, Tom Interlake N.D.P. OSWALD, Theresa Seine River N.D.P. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.P. REIMER, Jack Southdale P.C. ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Rupertsland N.D.P. ROCAN, Denis Carman P.C. RONDEAU, Jim, Hon. Assiniboia N.D.P. ROWAT, Leanne Minnedosa P.C. SALE, Tim, Hon. Fort Rouge N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Wellington N.D.P. SCHELLENBERG, Harry Rossmere N.D.P. SCHULER, Ron Springfield P.C. SELINGER, Greg, Hon. St. Boniface N.D.P. SMITH, Scott, Hon. Brandon West N.D.P. STEFANSON, Heather Tuxedo P.C. STRUTHERS, Stan, Hon. Dauphin-Roblin N.D.P. TAILLIEU, Mavis Morris P.C. VACANT Turtle Mountain WOWCHUK, Rosann, Hon. Swan River N.D.P. 3147 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Wednesday, June 9, 2004 The House met at 10 a.m. Madam Clerk (Patricia Chaychuk): Your Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs presents the PRAYERS following as its fifth report– ORDERS OF THE DAY An Honourable Member: Dispense. GOVERNMENT BUSINESS Mr. Speaker: Dispense. House Business Your Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs presents the following as its Fifth Report. Hon. Gord Mackintosh (Government House Leader): Mr. Speaker, I am just wondering, just to Meetings: get more time on the bills from committee, is there agreement of the House to have the committee Your committee met on Monday, June 7, 2004, at reports from Legislative Affairs and Social and 6:30 p.m. in Room 255 of the Legislative Building. Economic Development, so that we can move to Matters under Consideration: report stage or third reading and concurrence, as appropriate. Bill 19–The Public Schools Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les écoles publiques Mr. Speaker: Is there agreement of the House? Bill 25–The Amusements Amendment Act; Loi Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): There was modifiant la Loi sur les divertissements some noise in the Chamber, and I did not fully hear what the Minister of Justice (Mr. Mackintosh) was asking for. Could you make sure? Bill 27–The Agricultural Societies Act; Loi sur les sociétés agricoles Mr. Speaker: Okay, honourable Government House Leader, would you mind repeating that? Bill 30–The Safe Schools Charter (Various Acts Amended); Charte de la sécurité dans les écoles Mr. Mackintosh: At 1:30 p.m. we have the (modification de diverses dispositions législatives) committee reports from Legislative Affairs and Social and Economic Development. Just to get an Bill 32–The Provincial Railways Amendment Act; early start and have more time on those bills from Loi modifiant la Loi sur les chemins de fer committee, I wonder if there is leave to have those provinciaux reports presented and then move to consideration of those bills at report stage or third reading and concurrence at whatever stage is appropriate. Bill 36–The Highway Traffic Amendment Act; Loi modifiant le Code de la route Mr. Speaker: Is there agreement? [Agreed] Bill 37–The Labour Relations Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les relations du travail COMMITTEE REPORTS Committee Membership: Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs Fifth Report Substitutions received prior to commencement of meeting: Mr. Daryl Reid (Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs): Mr. Speaker, I Hon. Ms. Wowchuk for Mr. Nevakshonoff wish to present the fifth report of the Standing Hon. Mr. Bjornson for Hon. Mr. Selinger Committee on Legislative Affairs. Mrs. Taillieu for Mr. Faurschou 3148 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA June 9, 2004 Substitutions made, by leave, during committee modifiant la Loi sur les divertissements, from the proceedings: following organization: Lanny McInnes, Retail Council of Canada Hon. Ms. Allan for Hon. Ms. Wowchuk Mr. Schuler for Mr. Cummings Bills Considered and Reported: Public Presentations: Bill 19–The Public Schools Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les écoles publiques Your committee heard one presentation on Bill 19– The Public Schools Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les écoles publiques, from the following Your committee agreed to report this bill without organization: amendment. Brian Ardern, Manitoba Teachers Society Bill 25–The Amusements Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les divertissements Your committee heard three presentations on Bill 25–The Amusements Amendment Act; Loi modifiant Your committee agreed to report this bill without la Loi sur les divertissements, from the following amendment. individuals: Bill 27–The Agricultural Societies Act; Loi sur les Maureen Wilson, Private Citizen sociétés agricoles Marianne Cerilli, Private Citizen Bev Ridd, Private Citizen Your committee agreed to report this bill, with the following amendments: Your committee heard one presentation on Bill 27– The Agricultural Societies Act; Loi sur les sociétés agricoles, from the following organization: THAT Clause 7 of the Bill be amended Lynda Witty, Manitoba Association of Agricultural (a) by renumbering it as Clause 7(1); Societies (b) by striking out “100” and substituting Your committee heard two presentations on Bill 30– “50”; and The Safe Schools Charter (Various Acts Amended); Charte de la sécurité dans les écoles (modification (c) by adding the following as Clause 7(2) de diverses dispositions législatives), from the following individual and organization: Minister’s approval for headquarters within 50 km 7(2) Despite subsection (1), the minister may, on Roland Pokorny, Private Citizen request from the persons who wish to organize a Edward Lipsett, Manitoba Association for Rights society, permit the society’s headquarters to be and Liberties closer than 50 km to the headquarters of another society Written Submissions: THAT Clause 33(2) of the Bill be amended by Your committee received two written submissions on striking out “classes of societies” and substituting Bill 19–The Public Schools Amendment Act; Loi “associations.” modifiant la Loi sur les écoles publiques, from the following organizations: Bill 30–The Safe Schools Charter (Various Acts Lori Johnson, Winnipeg School Division Amended); Charte de la sécurité dans les écoles Wilfred Mackay, Rolling River First Nation (modification de diverses dispositions législatives) Your committee received one written submission on Your committee agreed to report this bill, with the Bill 25–The Amusements Amendment Act; Loi following amendments: June 9, 2004 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 3149 THAT the proposed subclause 47.1(2)(b)(ii), as set Your Standing Committee on Social and Economic out in Clause 1(3) of the Bill, be amended by Development presents the following as its Fourth adding “unreasonably” after “discriminating.” Report. Bill 32–The Provincial Railways Amendment Act; Meetings: Loi modifiant la Loi sur les chemins de fer provinciaux Your committee met on Monday, June 7, 2004, at 6:30 p.m. in Room 254 of the Legislative Building. Your committee agreed to report this bill without amendment. Matters Under Consideration: Bill 10–The Gaming Control Amendment Act; Loi Bill 36–The Highway Traffic Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur la Commission de régie du jeu modifiant le Code de la route Bill 23–The Red River Floodway Act; Loi sur le Your committee agreed to report this bill without canal de dérivation de la rivière Rouge amendment. Bill 31–The Floodway Authority Act; Loi sur la Bill 3–The Labour Relations Amendment Act; Loi Commission du canal de dérivation modifiant la Loi sur les relations du travail Bill 33–The Public Servants Insurance Amendment Your committee agreed to report this bill without Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur l'assurance des amendment, on a counted vote of yeas 6, nays 4. employés du gouvernement Mr. Reid: Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Bill 34–The University of Winnipeg Amendment Act; honourable Member for Fort Garry (Ms. Irvin-Ross), Loi modifiant la Loi sur l'Université de Winnipeg that the report of the committee be received. Mr. Speaker: It has been moved by the honourable Bill 35–The Credit Unions and Caisses Populaires Member for Transcona (Mr. Reid), seconded by the Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur les caisses honourable–would the honourable Member for Fort populaires et les credit unions Garry take her seat, please. Bill 38–The Fisheries Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur la pêche Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed] Membership Resignations / Elections: Standing Committee on Social Substitutions received prior to commencement of and Economic Development meeting: Fourth Report Mrs.