STATES OF JERSEY OFFICIAL REPORT WEDNESDAY, 2nd DECEMBER 2020 QUESTIONS ..................................................................................................................................... 4 1. Urgent Oral Question .......................................................................................................... 4 1.1 Deputy L.M.C. Doublet of the Chief Minister regarding loss of childcare provision by the over 70s. .......................................................................................................................... 4 Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré (The Chief Minister): ........................................................................ 4 1.1.1 Deputy L.M.C. Doublet: .................................................................................................... 4 1.1.2 Deputy S.G. Luce of St. Martin: ........................................................................................ 5 1.1.3 Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence: ................................................................................. 5 1.1.4 Deputy K.F. Morel: ............................................................................................................ 5 1.1.5 Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier: ....................................................................................... 6 1.1.6 Deputy I. Gardiner: ............................................................................................................ 7 1.1.7 Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier: ......................................................................................... 7 1.1.8 Deputy R.J. Ward: ............................................................................................................. 7 1.1.9 Deputy J.H. Perchard of St. Saviour: ................................................................................. 8 1.1.10 Deputy K.G. Pamplin of St. Saviour: ............................................................................ 8 PUBLIC BUSINESS - resumption .................................................................................................. 9 2. Composition and Election of the States: Proposed Changes – fifth amendment. (P.139/2020 Amd.(5)) ........................................................................................................... 9 2.1 Senator L.J. Farnham: ........................................................................................................ 9 2.1.1 Deputy S.M. Ahier of St. Helier: ..................................................................................... 11 2.1.2 Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier: ................................................................................ 11 2.1.3 Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade: .................................................................................... 11 2.1.4 Deputy R.J. Ward: ........................................................................................................... 12 2.1.5 Senator S.Y. Mézec: ........................................................................................................ 12 2.1.6 Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré: ............................................................................................... 13 2.1.7 Deputy J.H. Young of St. Brelade: .................................................................................. 14 2.1.8 Senator L.J. Farnham: ...................................................................................................... 14 2.2 Composition and Election of the States: Proposed Changes (P.139/2020) - seventh amendment (P.139/2020 Amd.(7)) .................................................................................... 17 2.2.1 Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré: ............................................................................................... 17 2.2.2 Senator S.Y. Mézec: ........................................................................................................ 21 2.2.3 Deputy M. Tadier: ............................................................................................................ 23 2.2.4 Senator S.C. Ferguson: .................................................................................................... 25 2.2.5 Deputy R. Labey of St. Helier: ........................................................................................ 25 2.2.6 Connétable J. Le Bailly of St. Mary: ............................................................................... 26 2.2.7 Deputy G.C. Guida of St. Lawrence: ............................................................................... 26 1 2.2.8 Connétable A.S. Crowcroft of St. Helier: ........................................................................ 28 2.2.9 Connétable M.K. Jackson of St. Brelade: ........................................................................ 29 2.2.10 Deputy D. Johnson of St. Mary: .................................................................................. 30 2.2.11 Deputy J.H. Perchard: ................................................................................................. 31 2.2.12 Connétable L. Norman of St. Clement: ....................................................................... 32 2.2.13 Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré: ........................................................................................... 32 LUNCHEON ADJOURNMENT PROPOSED ............................................................................ 37 LUNCHEON ADJOURNMENT ................................................................................................... 37 2.3 Composition and Election of the States: Proposed Changes (P.139/2020) - third amendment (P.139/2020 Amd.(3)) .................................................................................... 37 2.3.1 Connétable K. Shenton-Stone of St. Martin: ................................................................... 37 2.3.2 Deputy S.M. Wickenden of St. Helier: ............................................................................ 38 2.3.3 Connétable R.A. Buchanan of St. Ouen: ......................................................................... 39 2.3.4 Deputy K.F. Morel: .......................................................................................................... 40 2.3.5 Deputy M. Tadier: ............................................................................................................ 41 2.3.6 Deputy J.H. Young: ......................................................................................................... 42 2.3.7 Deputy L.B.E. Ash: .......................................................................................................... 43 Deputy M. Tadier: ..................................................................................................................... 44 2.3.8 Deputy J.M. Maçon of St. Saviour: ................................................................................. 44 2.3.9 Deputy G.P. Southern: ..................................................................................................... 45 2.3.10 The Connétable of St. Mary: ....................................................................................... 45 2.3.11 Deputy R. Labey: ........................................................................................................ 45 2.3.12 Deputy I. Gardiner: ..................................................................................................... 46 2.3.13 Senator S.Y. Mézec: .................................................................................................... 46 2.3.14 Deputy J.A. Martin: ..................................................................................................... 47 2.3.15 Deputy R.J. Ward: ....................................................................................................... 47 The Attorney General: ............................................................................................................... 49 Deputy M. Tadier: ..................................................................................................................... 49 2.3.16 Connétable D.W. Mezbourian of St. Lawrence: ......................................................... 49 2.3.17 The Connétable of St. Martin: ..................................................................................... 50 2.4 Composition and Election of the States: Proposed Changes (P.139/2020) – fourth amendment (P.139/2020 Amd.(4)) .................................................................................... 52 2.4.1 Connétable J.E. Le Maistre of Grouville: ........................................................................ 52 2.4.2 Senator S.Y. Mézec: ........................................................................................................ 53 2.4.3 Senator L.J. Farnham: ...................................................................................................... 55 2.4.4 Deputy S.M. Ahier: .......................................................................................................... 55 2.4.5 The Connétable of St. Ouen: ............................................................................................ 56 2.4.6 Deputy L.B.E. Ash: .......................................................................................................... 56 2.4.7 Deputy K.G. Pamplin: ..................................................................................................... 56 2.4.8 Deputy M. Tadier: ...........................................................................................................