COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA Official Committee Hansard SENATE FINANCE AND PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION LEGISLATION COMMITTEE ESTIMATES (Supplementary Budget Estimates) TUESDAY, 19 OCTOBER 2010 CANBERRA BY AUTHORITY OF THE SENATE THIS TRANSCRIPT HAS BEEN PREPARED BY AN EXTERNAL PROVIDER INTERNET Hansard transcripts of public hearings are made available on the inter- net when authorised by the committee. The internet address is: http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard To search the parliamentary database, go to: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au Tuesday, 19 October 2010 Senate F&PA 1 SENATE FINANCE AND PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION LEGISLATION COMMITTEE Tuesday, 19 October 2010 Members: Senator Polley (Chair), Senator Bernardi (Deputy Chair) and Senators Faulkner, Kroger, Siewert and Stephens Participating members: Senators Abetz, Adams, Back, Barnett, Bilyk, Birmingham, Mark Bishop, Boswell, Boyce, Brandis, Bob Brown, Carol Brown, Bushby, Cameron, Cash, Col- beck, Coonan, Cormann, Crossin, Eggleston, Ferguson, Fierravanti-Wells, Fielding, Fifield, Fisher, Forshaw, Furner, Hanson-Young, Heffernan, Humphries, Hurley, Hutchins, Johnston, Joyce, Ludlam, Macdonald, McEwen, McGauran, Marshall, Mason, Milne, Minchin, Moore, Nash, O’Brien, Parry, Payne, Pratt, Ronaldson, Ryan, Scullion, Sterle, Troeth, Trood, Wil- liams, Wortley and Xenophon Senators in attendance: Senators Abetz, Adams, Back, Bernardi, Boswell, Cormann, Faulk- ner, Fierravanti-Wells, Fifield, Forshaw, Heffernan Humphries, Hurley, Kroger, Macdonald, McGauran, Marshall, Moore, Parry, Ryan and Siewert Committee met at 9.04 am PRIME MINISTER AND CABINET PORTFOLIO Consideration resumed from 18 October 2010. In Attendance Senator Arbib, Minister for Sport, Minister for Indigenous Employment and Economic Development, Minister for Social Housing and Homelessness Senator Sherry, Minister Assisting on Deregulation, Minister for Small Business, Minister Assisting the Minister for Tourism Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet Outcome 1 Overview Mr Duncan Lewis, National Security Adviser Dr Wendy Southern, Deputy Secretary (Governance) Dr Gordon de Brouwer, Associate Secretary (Domestic Policy) 1.1 Domestic policy Dr Gordon de Brouwer, Associate Secretary (Domestic Policy) Ms Rebecca Cross, Deputy Secretary (Social Policy) Dr Paul Schreier, First Assistant Secretary, Industry, Infrastructure and Environment Divi- sion Mr Paul Ronalds, First Assistant Secretary, Office of Work and Family Mr Dominic English, First Assistant Secretary, Economic Division Ms Yael Cass, First Assistant Secretary, Social Policy Division Mr Andrew Jaggers, First Assistant Secretary, Office of the Coordinator-General FINANCE AND PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION F&PA 2 Senate Tuesday, 19 October 2010 1.2 National security and international policy Mr Duncan Lewis, National Security Adviser Dr Margot McCarthy, Deputy National Security Adviser Ms Rachel Noble, National Security Chief Information Officer Mr Michael Shoebridge, First Assistant Secretary, Defence, Intelligence and Research Co- ordination Division Mr Patrick Suckling, First Assistant Secretary, International Division Mr Tony Sheehan, First Assistant Secretary, Homeland and Border Security Division Ms Sachi Wimmer, Assistant Secretary, Border Protection and Law Enforcement Branch 1.3 Strategic policy and implementation Mr Ben Rimmer, Deputy Secretary (SPIG) Dr Subho Banerjee, First Assistant Secretary, Strategy and Delivery Division Mr Kim Terrell, Assistant Secretary, Cabinet Implementation Unit 1.4 Support services for government operations Dr Wendy Southern, Deputy Secretary (Governance) Ms Helen Liossis, First Assistant Secretary, Corporate Services Division Mr Barry Sterland, First Assistant Secretary, Cabinet Division Mr Alex Anderson, Assistant Secretary, Legal Policy Branch Ms Joan Sheedy, Assistant Secretary, Privacy and FOI Policy Branch Mr Gerard Martin, Assistant Secretary, Parliamentary and Government Branch Ms Kym Partington, Chief Financial Officer, Corporate Services Division Mr Terry Crane, Assistant Secretary, CHOGM Taskforce 2.1 Official and ceremonial support Dr Wendy Southern, Deputy Secretary (Governance) Mr John Cairns, First Assistant Secretary, Ministerial Support Unit Mr Frank Leverett, Assistant Secretary, Ceremonial and Hospitality Branch Outcome 2 Office for the Arts Mr Richard Eccles, Deputy Secretary, Arts and Sport Group Ms Sally Basser, First Assistant Secretary, Culture Division Ms Lynn Bean, First Assistant Secretary, Arts Division Mr Stephen Cassidy, Acting Assistant Secretary, Indigenous Culture Branch Ms Kim Allen, Assistant Secretary, Collections Branch Ms Celia Street, Acting Assistant Secretary, Film, Literature and Creative industries Branch Mr Paul McInnes, Assistant Secretary, Arts Policy and Access Branch Mr Mark Taylor, Assistant Secretary, Arts Development and Training Branch National Gallery of Australia Mr Alan Froud, Deputy Director Screen Australia Dr Ruth Harley, Chief Executive Officer Ms Fiona Cameron, Executive Director Strategy and Operations Mr Ross Matthews, Head of Production Investment Mr Ian Clark, Transitional Chief Finance Officer FINANCE AND PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION Tuesday, 19 October 2010 Senate F&PA 3 National Film and Sound Archive Mr Steve Vogt, Acting Chief Executive Officer Mr David Boden, Acting General Manager, Collection Development and Outreach Mr Noel Florian, Finance and Infrastructure Branch National Library Dr Warwick Cathro, Director-General Mr Gerry Linehan, Assistant Director-General, Corporate Services National Museum of Australia Mr Andrew Sayers, Director Ms Louise Douglas, Assistant Director Audience, Programs and Partnerships Mr Mat Trinca, Assistant Director Collections, Content and Exhibitions Ms Lisa Wilmot, Director Employee Relations and People Development Ms Kylie Noonan, Chief Finance Officer Outcome 3 Office for Sport Mr Richard Eccles, Deputy Secretary, Arts and Sport Group Mr Bill Rowe, General Manager Ms Natasha Cole, Assistant Secretary, Sport Branch Mr Jaye Smith, Acting Assistant Secretary, FIFA Task Force Australian Sports Commission Mr Matt Miller, Chief Executive Officer, Australian Sports Commission Prof Peter Fricker, Director, Australian Institute of Sport Ms Judy Flanagan, Director, Assisting the CEO Ms Christine Magner, Director, Corporate Services Ms Nadine Cohen, Acting Director, Sports Development Mr Steve Jones, Director, Commercial and Facilities Ms Wenda Donaldson, Acting Director, Community Sport Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority Ms Aurora Andruska, Chief Executive Officer, Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority Mr Trevor Burgess, Chief Operating Officer, Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority Ms Geetha Nair, General Manager, Anti-Doping Programs and Legal Services Mr Chris Owens, Director, Marketing and Communications Office of the Official Secretary to the Governor-General Outcome 1—Program 1 Mr Stephen Brady, Official Secretary to the Governor-General Mr Mark Fraser, Deputy Official Secretary to the Governor-General Ms Sharon Prendergast, Director, Australian Honours and Awards Branch Mr Stephen Murtagh, Director, Corporate Services Branch Australian National Audit Office Mr Ian McPhee, Auditor General Mr Steve Chapman, Deputy Auditor General Ms Anya Moore, Executive Director Corporate Management Branch Mr Anthony Howatson, Chief Finance Officer Mr Matt Cahill, Group Executive Director Performance Audit Services Group FINANCE AND PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION F&PA 4 Senate Tuesday, 19 October 2010 Ms Fran Holbert, Executive Director Performance Audit Services Group Ms Barbara Cass, Executive Director Performance Audit Services Group Mr Peter McVay, Executive Director Performance Audit Services Group Mr Grant Caine, Senior Director Performance Audit Services Group Mr Brian Boyd, Executive Director Performance Audit Services Group Mr Michael White, Executive Director Performance Audit Services Group Mr Tom Clarke, Executive Director Performance Audit Services Group Mr Stuart Turnbull, Executive Director Performance Audit Services Group Australian Public Service Commission Mr Steve Sedgwick, Public Service Commissioner Ms Carmel McGregor, Deputy Public Service Commissioner Ms Annwyn Godwin, Merit Protection Commissioner Ms Helen Bull, General Manager, Workplace Relations Workforce Classification Mr Patrick Palmer, Group Manager, Corporate Ms Clare Page, Group Manager, APSC Products and Services Mr David Schmidtchen, Group Manager, APS Workforce Mr Patrick Sedgley, Group Manager, APS Workforce Classification Dr Andrew Taylor, Group Manager, Workplace Relations Dr Jane Gunn, Group Manager, APS Learning and Development Mr Damian West, Group Manager, Client Engagement Ms Karin Fisher, Group Manager, Ethics Ms Sherryn Bellis, Group Manager, Workforce Participation CHAIR (Senator Forshaw)—Good morning everyone—Minister, Mr Eccles and other officers. I declare open today’s meeting of the Senate Finance and Public Administration Legislation Committee. I will not read all of the statement that I made at the beginning of yesterday’s hearing. I report that we are examining the particulars of proposed expenditure and related documents for 2010-11 for the parliamentary departments and portfolios of Prime Minister and Cabinet and Finance and Deregulation and annual reports of the departments and agencies. The committee has fixed Friday, 3 December as the date by which answers to questions on notice are to be returned. I remind senators that they have until the adjournment of the hearings today, 19 October, to lodge any written questions on notice with the secretariat. We are going