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J CONTENTS {Ninth Series, Vol. ,V, Second Session, 199011912 (Saka)} No. 28, Monday, April 23, 1990Naisakha 3, 1912 (Saka) CoLUMNS Oral Answers to Questions: 2-38 *Starred Question Nos. 554,555,556 and 563 Written Answers to Questions: 38-430 Starred Question Nos. 557 to 562, 564 to 570 3s--a6 and 572 to 573 Unstarred Question Nos. 5963 to 5966, 5968 to 66-430 5976, 5978 to 5982 5985 to 5989, 5991 to 6002,6004 to 6009, 6011 to 6035, 6037 to, 6040, 6042 to 6053, 6055 to 6066, 6069 to 6118, 6120 to 6121 and 6123 to 6146 Introduction of New Ministers 431-446 Papers Laid on the Table 446-452 Matters Under Rule 377 452-457 (i) Need for giving ownership rights 452-453 to the landless farmers, who have been cultivating Government lands in Himachal Pradesh since long Shri K.D. Sultanpuri *The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (ii) CoLUMNS (ii) Need for treating 'Molakolukulu' variety 453 of rice as a 'Superfine variety' Shri P. Penchalliah (iii) Need for shifting low power T.V. transmitter 453-454 set up in Parlakhamundi. Ganjam District. Orissa to centrally located site Shri Gopi Nath Gajapathi (iv) Need for equal distribution of sugar 454-455 through Fair Price Shops throughout the country and for giving to the cane growers one per cent sugar of the recovery from cane supplied by them to sugar mills Shn Harpal Singh Panwar (v) Need for constructing an aerodrome 455 in Madhepura district of Bihar Shri Ramendra Kumar Ravi Yadav (vi) Need for taking steps to overcome 455-456 drinking water problem in Bolangir District of Orissa Shri 8algopal Mishra (vii) Need to ensure that the report of 456 Sub-Committee on Electropathy is presented to the Government within the scheduled period i.e. by 30 April, 1990 Shrt Sukhendra Sin~h (viii) Need to declare 'May Day' as a paid 457 holiday throughout the country Shri Rupchand Pal Demands for Grants (General), 1990-91 457-549 Ministry of Home Affairs 553-566 (iii) CoLUMNS Shri Meijinlung Kamson 458--463 Shri Yuvl'aj 463-467 Shri Kalka Das - 467--470 Shri G.M. Banatwalla 47D-474 Shri Chiranji Lal Sharma 474--480 Shri Rupchand Pal 480-489 Shri Chitta Basu 489-496 Prof. N.G. Ranga 496-500 Shri Hari K~wal Prasad 500--505 Shn C. Srinivasan 505-509 Shri Mitrasen Yadav 509-513 Shri A. Charles 513-519 Shri Janardan Yadav 519-523 Shri Harmohan Dhawan 523-527 Shri Sultan Salah uddin Owaisi 527-532 Shri K.R. Narayanan 532-538 Shri Dasai Chowdhary 538-541 Shri Abdul Samad 541-544 It Shri Than Singh Jatav 544-549 Shri Dileep Singh Bhuria' 553-561 Shri Vamanrao Mahadik 561-566 Statement by Minister 549-553 Communal inokfents in Kanpur and Mathura in U.P. (iv) CoLUMNS Shri Subodh Kant Sahay 549-551 Business Advisory Committee 566 Seventh Report-Presented Hatf-An-Hour Discussion 566-578 On points arising out of answer to Starred Question No. 445 dated 12 April, 1990 Aepres~ntation from Gujarat to National Committee for Appraisal of Drought Prone Areas Programme and Desert Development Programme Shri Prakash Koko BrahmbhClt 566-569 Shri Harish Rawat 569-570 Shn P.R. Kumaramangalam 570-572 Shri Sudhir Glri 572-573 Shri Nathu Ram Mirdha 573-576 LOK SABHA DEBATES LOK SABHA ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Expenditure on Pollution Control in Delhi Monday, April 23, 1990lVaisakha 3, 1912 (Saka) "554. SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- HIT: SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock. Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] (a) whether in order to keep Delhi [English] pollution-free, the Central Pollution Control Board is spending more money as com- [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair1 pared to the amount spent on other cities in the country; and SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the normal courtesy which a (b) if so, the details thereof for the last Government shows to the House is that three years? when new Ministers have been sworn in, they will be introduced alongwith the portfo- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE lios allotted for them. We should know as to MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- who is dealing with which portfolio before we ESTS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ask our questions. MINISTRY OF PROGRAMME IMPLEMEN- TATION (SHRIMATI MANEKA GANDHI): THE MIN ISTER OF INFORMATION (a) The Central Pollution Control Board, in AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF addition to its overall coordinating role torthe PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRt P. country, also functions as the StatePollution UPENDRA): Sir, we are awaiting Presi- Control Board for the Union Territories, which dent's Proclamation regarding portfolios. We includes Delhi. The role of the State ~onution will introduce them after the Question Hour is Control Boards in their respective jurisdic- over. (Interruptions) tions is to notify, monitor and enforce stan- dards under the pollution control legislation. The execution of pollution control measures MR. SPEAKER: Now, let us start with ;s the responsibility of the polluting units. The the Question Hour. expenditure of the Pollution Control Boards ;s towards their regulatory responsibilities. It will not be possible to determine this expen- 3 Oral Answers APRil 23. 1990 Oral Answers 4 diture separately for cities, including Delhi. ries, Delhi has the highest number of people working for monitoring the pollution. I think, (b) Does not arise. it depends mainly on the number of indus- tries that have to be monitoried. In Delhi rTrans/ation] State, there are 50-60 thousand small indus- tries which need constant monitoring. SHRI BANWARI LAl PUROHIT: Mr. Speaker. Sir,l would like to remind the hon. rTrans/ation] Minister that while inaugurating the fifth Pollution Control Board at Anand Parbat in SHRI BANWARI LAl PUROHIT: Mr. Delhi on the 20th of this month, she had Speaker. Sir. while making public speeches, stated in her speech delivered on the occa- hon. Minister should speak with responsibil- sion, as reported by the UNI: ity. [English] MR. SPEAKER: Whatever she speaks here, only that is considered authentic. "Delhi is one of the three worst polluted cities in the world despite the fact that SHRI BANWARllAl PUROHIT: Sir, I the Central Pollution Control Board appreciate yourgesture. But Minister should was spending the maX'imum on the city reply with utmost responsibility. This type of to keep it pollution free." statements may create panic in the coun- try. " .... (Interruptions) [ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: Please maintain order. When questions are ask&d in the House, Put your question. the hon. Minister says that figures are not available with her whereas in her public SHRI BANWARILAl PUROHIT: In the speeches she furnished detailed informa- same speech, she stated further: tion in respect of expenditure being inncur- red. The han. Minister should furnish the [English] factual information in the House also. We come here to seek Information through "Mrs. Gandhi said that in the next five questions. Therefore, I would like to know years, fifty per cent of the population is the basis of her speech. likely to have cancer and 20 percent of the new-born babies are likely to be [English] mentally retarded." SHRIMATI MANEKA GANDHI: I do not [ Trans/ation] think, I have been reported correctly. When , said that Delhi is one of the third most ThiS has been reported byths UNI and it has polluted cities, it was based on the World. appeared in the newspapers throughout the Watch Review brought out Secondly, I did country. Why did she say so? If at all this is not say that we are spending the maximum the reality, has any thing been done to meet money here. What I said was that we have a the situation? large number of staff people here. We have approximately forty people attached to the SHRIMATI MANEKA GANDHI: Some- Board for monitoring pollution standards in times the newspapers tend to turn the facts Delhi, which is, I think. higher than any other slightly. What I said was not fifty per cent. but city. that a hundred percent people runthe risk of environmental induced diseases including As I said before, we are operating in the cancer, dwarfism. mental retardation etc., a UniOn Territories and of all the Union Territo- lot of which are caused by poflution. I also 5 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 3,1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6 said that a large number of people being Minister what steps are being taken to check taken to hospitats with diseases like cancer, pollution in the highly polluted areas like mental retardation and a lot of other dis· Anand Parbat, Connaught Place, walled city eases, are victims of environmental poilu· and the areas particularly where there are tion, whether it is lead poisoning, chromium mines and crushers operate. Secondly, poisoning, air and water pollution etc. As I Cholera has broken out many times due to said, the question was not fifty per cent of the pollution in Rajokri area. Whenever there is people, but what I said was hundred percent a marriage ceremony in that area, crusher people. owners are requested to stop their operation so that the food is not polluted by the dust [ Translation] particles emitted from crushers.