ISSN 0542-5492 Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Speaker 1 The Honourable Peter Fox Voi.XXIII No.133 10:00a.m., Wednesday,June2nd,1976. Third Session, 30th Legislature. Printed by R. S. Evans- Queen's Printer for Province of Manitoba Political Postal Electoral Division Name Address Affili!ltion Code ARTHUR J. Douglas Watt P.C .. Reston, Man. ROM 1XO ASSINIBOIA Steve Patrick lib. 10 Red Robin Place, Wpg. R3J 3L8 BIRTLE·RUSSELL Harry E. Graham P.C. Binscarth, Man. ROJ OGO BRANDON EAST Hon. Leonard S. Evans NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova BRANDON WEST Edward McGill P.C. 222a Princess Ave., Brandon R7B OH9 BURROWS Hon. Ben Hanuschak NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova CHARLESWOOD Arthur Moug P.C. 29 Willow Ridge Rd., Winnipeg R3R 1L5 CHURCHILL Les Osland NDP 66 Radisson Blvd., Churchill ROB OEO CRESCENTWOOD Warren Steen P.C. 410 Borebank St., Winnipeg R3N 1E7 DAUPHIN Hon. Peter Burtniak NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3c ova ELMWOOD Hon. Russell J. Doern NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3c ova EMERSON Steve Derewianchuk NDP Vita, Manitoba ROA 2KO FUN FLON Thomas Barrow NDP Cranberry Portage, Man. ROB OHO FORT GARRY L.R. (Bud) Sherman P.C. a6 Niagara St., Winnipeg R3N OT9 FORT ROUGE Lloyd Axworthy Lib. 140 Roslyn Road, Winnipeg R3L OGa GIMLI John C. Gottfried NDP 44'·- 3rd Ave., Gimli, Man. ROC 1BO GLADSTONE James R. Ferguson P.C. Gladstone, Man. ROJ OTO IN.KSTER Hon. Sidney Green, O.C. NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3c ova KILDONAN Hon. Peter Fox NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova LAC DU BONNET Hon. Sam Uskiw NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg R3C ova LAKESIDE Harry J. Enns P.C. Woodlands, Man. ROC 3HO LA VERENDAYE Bob Banman P.C. Steinbach, Man. AOA 2AO LOGAN William Jenkins NDP 1294 Erin St., Winnipeg A3E 2S6 MINNEDOSA David Blake P.C. Minnedosa, Man. AOJ 1EO MORRIS Warner H. Jorgenson P.C. Morris, Man. AOG 1KO OSaOANE Hon. lan Turnbull NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg A3C ova PEMBINA George Henderson P.C. Manitou, Man. ROG 1GO POINT DOUGLAS Donald Malinowski NDP 23 Coralberry Ave., Winnipeg R2V 2P2 PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE Gordon E. Johnston lib. Box 112, Portage la Prairie, Manitoba R1N 3B2 AADISSON Harry Shafransky NDP 4 Maplehurst Rd., Winnipeg A2J 1Wa RHINELAND Arnold Brown P.C. Winkler, Man. ROG 2XO AIEL Donald W. Craik P.C. 3 Aiver Lane, Winnipeg A2M 3Ya RIVER HEIGHTS Sidney Spivak, O.C. P.C. 251a- 160 Hargrave St., Wpg. A3C 3H3 ROB UN J. Wally McKenzie P.C. lnglis, Man. ROJ OXO ROCK LAKE Henry J. Einarson P.C. Glenboro, Man. AOK OXO AOSSMERE Hon. Ed. Schreyer NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg A3C ova RUPEATSLAND Hon. Harvey Bostrom NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg A3c ova ST. BONIFACE Hon. L.L. Desjardins NDP 200- ta5 Carlton St., Wpg. R3C 1P3 ST. GEORGE Hon. Bill Uruski NDP 10th fir., 330 Portage Ave., Wpg. A3C OC4 ST. JAMES George Minaker P.C. 3ta Ronald St., Winnipeg A3J 3Ja ST. JOHNS Saul Cherniack, O.C. NDP 333 St. Johns Ave., Winnipeg A2W 1H2 ST. MATTHEWS Wally Johannson NDP 41a Home St., Winnipeg A3G 1X4 ST. VITAL D.J. Walding NDP 26 Hemlock Place, Winnipeg A2H 1L7 STE. ROSE A.R. (Pete) Adam NDP Ste. Rose du Lac, Man. ROL 1SO SELKIRK Hon. Howard Pawley NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg A3C ova SEVEN OAKS Hon. Saul A. Miller NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg A3c ova SOURIS KILLARNE Y Earl McKellar P.C. Nesbitt, Man. AOK 1PO SPRING FIELD Hon. Rene E. Toupin NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg A3c ova STURGEON CREEK J. Frank Johnston P.C. 310 Over dale St., Winnipeg A3J 2G3 SWAN RIVER James H. Bilton P.C. Swan River, Man. AOL 1ZO THE PAS Hon. Ron McBryde NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg A3C ova THOMPSON Ken Dillen NDP 24 - 1 Public Rd., Thompson RaN OM3 TAANSCONA Hon. Russell Paulley NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg A3C ova VI ADEN Morris McGregor P.C. Kenton, Man. ROM OZO WELLINGTON Phi lip M. Petursson NDP 681 Banning St., Winnipeg R3G 2G3 WINNIPEG CENTRE Hon. J.A. (Bud) Boyce NDP Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg A3C ova WOLSELEY A.G. (Bob) Wilson P.C. 2 Middlegate, Winnipeg A3C 2C4 4507 THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 10 a.m., Wednesday, June 2, 1976 Opening Prayer by Mr. Speaker. MR. SPEAKER: Presenting Petitions; Reading and Receiving Petitions; Presenting Reports by Standing and Special Committees. The Honourable Member for Radisson. PRESENTING REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES MR. HARRY SHAFRANSKY (Radisson): Mr. Speaker, I beg to present the fifth report of the Committee on Economic Development. MR. CLERK: Your Committee met on June 1, 1976, to consider the Annual Report of Manitoba Mineral Resources Ud, for the period from April 1, 1974, to March 31, 1975, and the Financial Statements of Leaf Rapids Development Corporation Ud, for the year ended March 31, 1975. An unaudited Financial Statement for the year ending March 31, 1976, was also provided by the Corporation for information of members of the Committee. Having received all information requested by any member from Mr. Albert A. Koffman, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Manitoba Mineral Resources Ud,, and Mr. W. Parasiuk, Chairman of the Board of Leaf Rapids Development Corporation Ud., the Reports, as presented, were adopted by the Committee. All of which is respectfully submitted. MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable Member for Radisson. MR . SHAFRANSKY: Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Emerson, that the Report of the Committee be received. MOTION presented and carried. MR. SPEAKER: Ministerial Statements and Tabling of Reports; Notices of Motion; Introduction of Bills; Questions. The Honourable Leader of the Opposition. ORAL QUESTIONS MR . DONA I.D W. CRAIK (Leader of the Official Opposition)(Riel): Mr. Speaker, I direct a question to the First Minister. I wonder if be could advise whether Manitoba has drawn back or curtailed activities in the Guaranteed Annual Income program, that have been apparently annonnced by a number of provinces at the joint Federal-Provincial meeting. MR . SPEAKER: The Honourable First Minister. HON. EDWARD SCHREYER (Premier)(Rossmere): Mr. Speaker, the Guaranteed Annual Income experimental program is one which the Honourable Leader of the Opposi­ tion will recall is cost-shared by Canada and Manitoba on a 75-25 percent formula. It is correct that there has been some scaling back of the size and the time duration of the program. It has been mutually agreed to by the two levels of government. I believe it might be said that the federal request was to scale-back the amonnt of proposed addi­ tionality of time, do I make myself clear? It is not being scaled back from the original intent, it is however being scaled back from an adjusted extension period. ORDERS OF THE DAY MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable House Leader. HON. SIDNEY GREEN, Q.C. (Minister of Mines, Resources and Environmental Management)(Inkster): Mr. Speaker, I wonder if you would proceed to call No. 67 please. MR. SPEAKER: Very well. Bill No. 67. The Honourable Member for Birtle- Russell. MR. HARRY E. GRAHAM (Birtle-Russell): Stand, Mr. Speaker. MR. GREEN: No. 61, Mr. Speaker. MR . SPEAKER: Committee of the Whole could consider that one, The Honour­ able First Minister. 4508 June 1, 1976 BILL 61 MR. SCHREYER: Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Honourable House Leader, that Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair and the House resolve itself into com­ mittee to consider and report on the following Bill 61, an Act to Authorize the Expendi­ ture of Moneys for Capital Purposes and Authorize the Borrowing of the Same. MOTION presented and carried. and the House resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole with the Honourable Member for Logan in the Chair. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE BILL NO. 61 -AN ACT TO AUTHORIZE THE EXPENDITURE OF MONEYS FOR CAPITAL PURPOSES AND AUTHORIZE THE BORROWlNG OF THE SAME MR. CHAIRMAN: The bill for consideration before the committee as a whole is Bill No. 61, page by page? Pages 1 to 7 were read and passed. Preamble--pass; Title--pass; Bill be reported. Committee rise and report. Call in the Speaker. Mr. Speaker, your Committee of the Whole has considered Bill 61, passed same, and asks leave to sit again. IN SESSION MR. SPEAKER: Order please. The Honourable Member for Logan. MR. WILLIAM JENKINS (Logan): Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Ste. Rose, that the Report of the Committee be received. MOTION presented and carried. MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable House Leader. BILL NO. 61 was read a third time and passed. GOVERNMENT BILLS - ADJOURNED DEBATES ON SECOND READING MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable House Leader. MR. GREEN: Yes, Mr. Speaker, 72. MR. SPEAKER: Bill No. 72. Proposed by the Honourable Attorney-General. The Honourable Member for Birtle-Russell. MR. GRAHAM: May I have this matter stand please, Mr. Speaker. MR. GREEN: Bill No. 70, Mr. Speaker. It's the second reading of Bill 70. BILL NO. 70- AN ACT TO AMEND THE MORTGAGE BROKERS AND MORTGAGE DEALERS ACT MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable Minister of Consumer, Corporate and Internal Services. HON. IAN TURNBULL (Minister of Consumer, Corporate and Internal Services) (Osborne) presented Bill 70, An Act to Amend the Mortgage Brokers and Mortgage Dealers Act, for second reading. MOTION presented. MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable Minister. MR. TURNBULL: Mr. Speaker, I do have some explanatory notes which I assume the Opposition would like to hear, although they didn't ask for any explanation, but the Leader of the Conservative Party now expresses a desire to have an explanation, so I will give my remarks on this bill.