Friday, April 18, 1969 Fourth Series1R.43 Chaitra 28, 1891 (Saka) /2.6$%+$ '(%$7(6 Seventh Session Fourth/RN6DEKD /2.6$%+$6(&5(7$5,$7 New Delhi CONTENTS No. 43-Friday, April 18. 1969/ChaiJra 28~ 1891 (SJJka) COLUMNS Oral Answers to Questions : *Starred Questions Nos. 11"71 to 1174 and 1177 1-37 • Short Notice Question Nos. 75 37-43 Written Answers to Questions: Starred Questions Nos. II 15, 1176 and 1178 to 1200 43-63 Unstarred Questions Nos. 6742 to 50, 6752 to 55, 6757 to 6805, 6805 to 32, 6834 to 6904 and 6908 to 6940 63-230 Papers Laid on the Table 230-232 Public Accounts Committee- Forty-sixth and Fifty-first Reports 232 Committee on Public Undertakings: . Forty-second Report 232 Statement by Member Under Direction 115 and Minister's reply thereto 232-235 Shri Hukam Chand Kachwai 232-233 Shri Parimal Ghosh 233-234 Demands for Grants 235-325 Ministry of Informotion and Broadcasting 235-325 Shri 1. Mohamed Imam ... 237-43 Shri Nardeo Snatak 243-~7 Shri Bharat Singh Chauhan 257-53 Shri Tulshidas ladhav 253-5'} Shri Ishaq Sambha!i 259--72 Shri Inder J. Malhotra 273-79 Sh.ri K. Anin:dhan 279-84 Shri I. K. Gujral 284-97 Shri S. M. Joshi 303-10 Shri Samar Guha 311-16 Shri Prem Chand Verma ... 316-19 Shri Randhir Singh 319-21 Shri Achal Singh 321 Shri Praka~h Vir Shastri ... 321-23 *The sign* marked above the name of a Member indicat.. that the Question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. ii Bill Introduced 1. Constitution (Amendment) Bill [Amendment of article 39] (Bill No. 33 of 1969) by Shri Om Prakash Tyagi 325 2. Constitution (Amendment) Bill [Amendmen; 'of article 39] (Bill No. 32 of 1969) By Shri Om Prakash Tyagi • 325 3. Identity Card Bill By Shri Maharaj Singh Bharati '" 326 • 4. Salaries and Allowance of Members of Parliament (Amendment) Bill (Amendment of sections 4, 5 etc.) By Shri P.L. Barupal 326-32 Enlargement of the Appellate (Criminal) jurisdiction of the Supreme Court Bill By Shri A. N. Mulla-referred to Select Committee 332-67 Motion to Consider 332-67 Shri A. N. Mulla 332-42 Shri N. C. Chatterjee 342-44 Shri Hanumanthaiya 344-47 Shri K. M. Koushik 347-48 Shri Randhir Singh 348-50 Shri Hamayun Kabir 350-52 Shri Rabi Ray 352-53 Shri Tenneti Viswanatham 353-55 Shri Shivajirao S. Deshmukh 355-57 Shri M. N. Reddy 357-58 Shri S. M. Krishna 358-60 Shri Erasmo de Sequeira .. 360-61 Shri George Fernandes .. 361-63 Shri Govinda Menon 363-65 Constitution (Amendment) Bill-(Amendment of articles 75, 164, etc.) By Shri Kameshwar Siogh 368-76 Motion to consider 368-76 Shri Kameshwar Singh 368-76 Half-An-Hour Discussion: Per Capita availabil,ty of Power in Bihar ... 377-78 LOB: SABRA DEBATES 2 LOK SABHA ~ IRT ~~~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ""T ~ it; ~ 'R f<RT<: Friday, April 18, 1969jChaitra 18, 1891 rn ~~ (Saka). ('if) ~ ~ 1fT m ~r iifro:!T ~ ? The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) : <a) and (b). The [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. (c) and (d). Even while a Minister is on ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS election tour, he continues to be in charge of public affairs and has to attend to several SHRI SITA RAM KESRI : On a Point official matters. He can therefore, take his of order ..... Personal Assistants and peons with him on such tours in order to facilitate the dis- MR. SPEAKER: No point of order charge of his official duties. Such staff is during Question Hour. I shall allow you a entitled to draw travelling allowance as supplementary. for journeys on official tOUf. The ques- tion of recovering the amount paid to ~~~ ~~~ the employees as daily allowance and ,"",rn ... m1f ~ Q'lfo1"I1(1 travelling allowance in connection with these tours from the party in power does not therefore, arise. °l1.il. '1) ~- m.ft : .../ '" ~ ~ Rtl11ft : ~~~ '" r~ ~ ~~ : ~ ~ i;fr;r;rr ~ i f.!; ;;r<f . ~ m'f ¥ j<if 1fT q-qrqf\f ¥T") IRT ~ ~ ~ amf.r ""T FIT ~ ~ ~ ~ ,!'fT'f it; ~~ ~ iF ""T ~ l!T m) n: .mr ~ ~ ~ ("") 'fElfT'fflf ~ it; W..r '3"fit; mtT ei't'f-iffl'tG ~ 0 ~ 0 ~ 0 fiif<f.r ~ lI'it "flT'l" mT n: 'lit it ~ r~ it; ~ $ <m;r.r m'Ii 'ftTr m ~ ~ it; mtT flifi"<f.r l1<:'fTft it; ~ .mr ~ aT ~ ~ ~ ,"'l'fTft 'fll" it ; n: ~ tiT'<ri i!..T'fT ~ ~ ~ onif ~ ~ 1fT ~ iifT ~ ~ (tiT) ~ mT it; f"flf ~ ""T RIfT "IT<rr ~ ? ~r ~ Ifro ~ it; ~ 'ftTT it SHltI K. S. RAMASWAMY: Sir, ~ ~- ~r~ ~ ~ tTT ; even while the Ministers go on tour for 3 Oral AlI3wers APRIL 18, 1969 Oral Answers 4 election purposes, they have to discharge tion. But when officials go in thousands and their official duties. They are not debar- hundreds, who makes payment for their red from this. So, they take their P.As. expenses ? The Prime Minister may and Peons with them. So; there is no take about one thousand people. But question of recovering the amoun t from who pays their expenses ? the Perty. SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY: Government 'protection is given not only $I"",, (1m,,!: ~ ~ 'IT "'" to the l'rime Minister, hut also VIPs and ~ r~ ~ ;;ncrT ~ crt ~ M.Ps ... (l"terruptio"s) mo mt:o ito ~-~ if; ~r SHRI N. K. SOMANI WhicH' ;;nit ~ ~h ~ ~ _ ~ ~ .,-r':l'T M.P. is given protection? f.r.r if; ~ ~ ~ ;;ru Cf<:q; '!'iT f.;roff '!'iT ~ ito m ~ if; >.it ~ SI-.rm ~ ~~ !!I'RiTT ~ ~ ~ ~ if;;m '¥TCI' if; ~ it ~ ~ '!'ivrT ~~~~~~~~~ ;;ril,CIT ~ I if6lf1'ff"l '¥TCI' if SI"lTif W ~r ~ "¥iT ~~ ~ ~ ;;rq ifrfr .,-T ~ ~ ~ If;; ~ <r\l,T ~ «Ttf ~ ito r~~ ~ W ~ a~ <r<m mo mt:. 1FT ~ mq; ITlIT ~ f.t;cr;rr ~ ~~r if; foro: ~ ~ ~ mq; ~ ~ ~ ~~r~~~ <rWr0l' ITlIT 1ftf ~h fiImit ~ ~ ~ flifi'WlT @"iri il,Tcrr ~ 'if'" ~ ~ ~ ~~ mtf'I>1' ~ ~ ~~ <r\l, ~ '!'iT1f 1FT ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ -~ ~ ~ qTif 'flif if ~ ~~r 1FT m'f ~ ~ I SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY: I can- not say how many people accompanied SHRI SHEO NARAIN: It is Iheir her on a particular occasion. But due duty to protect their Prime Minister. protection was given to ber. SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY: It is SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH: We seek the duty of the State Government to your protection now. protect the Prime Minister or other VIPs who go on any tour. Officers accom- MR. SPEAKER No protection panying them are not expected to take from me. part in t he election campaign either directly or indirectly. They have to be ~~ impartial. There is no question of reco- ~ ~ vering any amount from any party. ifil,m, m'f ~4 ~ 'iTi (it) ~ ~ #«f'liIF ~ ~ ITlIT SHRI BAL RAJ MADHOK : I seek your protection ... ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ MR. SPEAKER: What I have been able to gather is that there is no MR. SPEAKER: After ail, \hcy question of recovering the expenses from may not mo,," how many people w ent the Party. with the Prime Minister, how many CID and other staft' went. They may not have SHRI BAL RAJ MADHOK : When the information readily. the Prime Minister goes on election tour, she goes as Congress leader and the Cong- ress bas its own protection. We 'go as Jan SHRI BAL RAJ MADHOK: But Sinsh leaders and we have ~r own protec- this was the very question tabled. S Ora/ A"... .,. CHAITRA 28. 1891 (SAKAl Ora/ A"... .,. 6 MR. SPEAKER: Even in answer '11' P" .... ~ ~ to tbat. be bas said they are collecting "Itm!I' ~ 'lfA"T 1 the information and will place it on the it t Table. "" r... , ~ 'l'"': it ~~ AN HON. MEMBER.: How long fl;r ~ il fm ~~ tbey will take ? ~ ~ 'fi"rIf ~ f'fi"llT I······ ( ~ ..... MR. SPEAKER: Because· tbe .. Prime Minister went to so many places. naturally they will take time to collect "' ~ firatwif : !If1lIf1lf details. 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IfIfT ~ ~ ~r ~ fir; ~ If1T ~ ~ ;r(l m. !If'R't m'f ill" 'fi"rIf ill" Rl'; 'fi"VfT ~ ~~ ~~ ~ 'ftl ~ ~r 'lftlJ'T ('1') ~ 'ITt ~ R;r ill" ~ Ut ~ ;;mi 1fT ~ iflfT ~ ~r Ifi!: r~ ~rr flf1 R;r ill" ~ Ut ~ ;;mi 1 r~ ~~~~~ , .. ;r , .. 1f1,"lT ~r ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ m; ~ ~ 'ftl ~ <rm' ? ~~r~~ ~ !lff1JlFTfulT 1Iil";;r)fir; m mq; ~- ""_ if mq "'" ~ t ~ ~~~ ('11' firaT"'t'r '!IIW): ~- ;;r) ~ mil" ~ mq; ortM t ~ ~~~~ ~ ~ ~ ill" ~r it (I" ;;rm t. !Iff'I'fiTU it ~ 'fi"rIf ;ritT fir;lrr ,*m ~~~~ r~~~~ t 1 r~~r~~~. 7 Oral Answers APRIL 18, 1969 Oral Answers 8 ~ ..rt ~ '3'i'I' ~~rr t ~~ ~r~ ~r ~~~ I lfiI" 'R it; ft:!it 1ft ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ra ~~ ~~ SHRI RANGA : That is far-fetched.