MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT Thursday 9 December 2004 Session 2 £5.00 Parliamentary copyright. Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body 2004. Applications for reproduction should be made in writing to the Licensing Division, Her Majesty‟s Stationery Office, St Clements House, 2-16 Colegate, Norwich NR3 1BQ Fax 01603 723000, which is administering the copyright on behalf of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body. Produced and published in Scotland on behalf of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body by Astron. CONTENTS Thursday 9 December 2004 Debates Col. IRAQ............................................................................................................................................................. 12723 Motion moved—[Carolyn Leckie]. Amendment moved—[Mr Duncan McNeil]. Amendment moved—[Alex Neil]. Amendment moved—[Phil Gallie]. Amendment moved—[Mr Keith Raffan]. Amendment moved—[Chris Ballance]. Frances Curran (West of Scotland) (SSP) .............................................................................................. 12723 Mr Duncan McNeil (Greenock and Inverclyde) (Lab) .............................................................................. 12728 Alex Neil (Central Scotland) (SNP) .......................................................................................................... 12731 Phil Gallie (South of Scotland) (Con) ...................................................................................................... 12733 Mr Keith Raffan (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) ......................................................................................... 12736 Chris Ballance (South of Scotland) (Green) ............................................................................................ 12738 Karen Gillon (Clydesdale) (Lab) .............................................................................................................. 12741 Stewart Stevenson (Banff and Buchan) (SNP) ....................................................................................... 12743 Mike Rumbles (West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine) (LD) .................................................................... 12745 Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab) .................................................................................................. 12747 Rosie Kane (Glasgow) (SSP) .................................................................................................................. 12749 Mr Frank McAveety (Glasgow Shettleston) (Lab) ................................................................................... 12752 Ms Sandra White (Glasgow) (SNP) ......................................................................................................... 12754 Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) ........................................................................................... 12755 Elaine Smith (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab) ....................................................................................... 12757 Campbell Martin (West of Scotland) (Ind) ............................................................................................... 12759 Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) ........................................................................................................... 12761 Mr Raffan ................................................................................................................................................. 12763 Lord James Douglas-Hamilton (Lothians) (Con) ..................................................................................... 12765 Mr Kenny MacAskill (Lothians) (SNP) ..................................................................................................... 12767 Mr John Home Robertson (East Lothian) (Lab) ...................................................................................... 12770 Carolyn Leckie (Central Scotland) (SSP) ................................................................................................ 12772 FIRST MINISTER’S QUESTION TIME ................................................................................................................ 12776 QUESTION TIME ............................................................................................................................................ 12788 FISHERIES .................................................................................................................................................... 12811 Motion moved—[Ross Finnie]. Amendment moved—[Richard Lochhead]. Amendment moved—[Mr Ted Brocklebank]. Amendment moved—[Mr Mark Ruskell]. The Minister for Environment and Rural Development (Ross Finnie) ..................................................... 12811 Richard Lochhead (North East Scotland) (SNP) ..................................................................................... 12817 Mr Ted Brocklebank (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) ................................................................................ 12821 Mr Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) ................................................................................... 12825 Richard Baker (North East Scotland) (Lab) ............................................................................................. 12827 Tavish Scott (Shetland) (LD) ................................................................................................................... 12830 Fergus Ewing (Inverness East, Nairn and Lochaber) (SNP) ................................................................... 12832 Mr Jamie McGrigor (Highlands and Islands) (Con) ................................................................................. 12834 Sarah Boyack (Edinburgh Central) (Lab) ................................................................................................ 12836 Christine Grahame (South of Scotland) (SNP) ........................................................................................ 12839 Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green) ............................................................................................................. 12841 Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab) ............................................................................................. 12843 Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) .......................................................................................... 12845 Stewart Stevenson (Banff and Buchan) (SNP) ....................................................................................... 12847 Ross Finnie .............................................................................................................................................. 12849 BUSINESS MOTION ........................................................................................................................................ 12854 Motion moved—[Ms Margaret Curran]—and agreed to. DECISION TIME ............................................................................................................................................. 12855 EXCESS WINTER DEATHS .............................................................................................................................. 12868 Motion debated—[Mrs Margaret Ewing]. Mrs Margaret Ewing (Moray) (SNP) ........................................................................................................ 12868 Mrs Mary Mulligan (Linlithgow) (Lab) ...................................................................................................... 12871 Christine Grahame (South of Scotland) (SNP) ........................................................................................ 12872 Mrs Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con) ...................................................................................... 12873 Donald Gorrie (Central Scotland) (LD) .................................................................................................... 12875 Alex Neil (Central Scotland) (SNP) .......................................................................................................... 12876 Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) ........................................................................................................... 12877 John Swinburne (Central Scotland) (SSCUP) ......................................................................................... 12879 Fergus Ewing (Inverness East, Nairn and Lochaber) (SNP) ................................................................... 12880 The Minister for Communities (Malcolm Chisholm) ................................................................................. 12881 Oral Answers Col. FIRST MINISTER’S QUESTION TIME .......................................................................................................... 12776 Cabinet (Meetings) .................................................................................................................................. 12778 Fresh Talent Initiative .............................................................................................................................. 12784 National Parks ......................................................................................................................................... 12782 Prime Minister (Meetings) ........................................................................................................................ 12776 Reoffending ............................................................................................................................................