Southold 2020 The New Comprehensive Plan for the Town of Southold Website: http://southoldtown.northfork.net/ Email: [email protected] CONOMIC HAPTER ISCUSSION EETING OTES E C D M N MONDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2010 – 7:00 TO 8:30 P.M. RECREATION CENTER, PECONIC Where do you shop for day-to-day purchases? • IGA – Southold and Greenport (6) • Webvitamins.com • King Kullen – Cutchogue (5) • The Market – Greenport • 7-Eleven – Cutchogue (3) • Netflix • Karen’s deli – Cutchogue (3) • Huntington Cinema • Farm stands (3) • Panera • Hardware store (2) • Love Lane Kitchen • Valero gas station – Cutchogue (2) • NF Bagels • Locally (2) • Wayside Market • CVS (2) • Petco • Southold pharmacy (2) • Agway • Salamander Gourmet (2) • Marion gardens • McDonalds • Trimballs • Wineries • Southold fish market • Starbucks • Braun’s fish market • Handy pantry • Alice’s fish market • Banking • Big duck bakery • From Laurel to Greenport, local • Angel’s general store – East Marion merchants • Candyman – Orient • Greenport • Arcade • Southold • D’Latte (when it was open) • Greenport (lives in East Marion) • Harborfront Restaurant • Health food store • Hellenic snack bar – East Marion • Hair – Cutchogue • Village dry cleaner • Local – Love Lane • Orient ice cream parlor • Waldbaums • Rhumbline • Sep’s farmstand • Jet’s dream • Latham’s farm • Michael’s liquors • Colonial pharmacy • BJs • Lavendar farm – East Marion • Costco – Commack • Trader Joes • Mattituck cinema • Office Max • Village cinema – Greenport • Staples • Dunkin Donuts • Clothing stores at Tanger Mall • Amazon.com Where do you shop for specialty items? • Bauer’s – Love Lane, Mattituck (2) • Movies – Mattituck (2) • Online/Internet (2) • Barber – Love Lane • Restaurants • McDonalds • Wherever they are available • PC Richards – Riverhead • Best Buy – Riverhead • Cars – Southold/Riverhead • IGA – Southold • Southold wine • CVS • Taste, other Greenport stores • Home and Chef • Pepi’s restaurant • Ace and Harts • Michael’s liquor • Barb’s – vegetables • Riverhead • Greenport • Tanger 2 What are the types of goods or services that you buy in town? • Food/groceries (8) • Marinas • Valero gas (3) • Real estate offices • Gifts (3) • Some greeting cards • Hardware (3) • Wine • Home/property maintenance (2) • Mullen motors • Village dry cleaner (2) • ELIH gym • Blue duck bakery • Pharmacy • Southold fish market • Almost everything • IGA • Lunch • King Kullen • Pet products • Angel’s • Salamanders • White’s hardware • Goldsmiths • Hart’s TruValue • Mattituck cinema • Colonial drug • Orient ice cream parlor • Dinizio auto service • Jet’s dream • Michelangelo’s • Meson ole • Desiderios • Sep’s farm stand • Lavender by the bay • CVS • Michael’s liquors • NF bagels • Braun seafood • Eastern sun • Wayside market • Party store • Agway • Marion gardens • Arcade • Daily life • Personal maintenance • Medical • Hardware • New roof installation • New well pump • Clothing • Eyeglasses – Greenport Eyeworks • Restaurants – all over North Fork • Landscaping • Oil/service • Builders/renovators 3 What are the types of goods or services that you buy out of town? • Clothing – Riverhead, online (8) • Electronics/appliances (6) – Riverhead • Computer and electronics – online (3) • Shoes (3) • Linens (2) • Furniture (2) • Automotive services/dealers – Riverhead (2) • Medical/doctor (2) • Books/CDs/music – online (2) • Lighting (Riverhead) • Recreation (online) • Costco for bulk paper goods • Trader Joe’s for health foods • Vitamins (online) • Huntington cinema – better/indie movies • Housewares • Entertainment • Insurance • Stationary items – paper, printer ink, etc. • Electrical supplies • Liquor • Professional • Bakery • Butcher • Specialty/international foods 4 What are the types of goods or services/specific stores that you would like to see established in town? Individual responses (written on handouts) Group#2: • Italian deli/bakery • Technical services for • Stationary store computers/computing (3 dots) • Some retail • Town pool/fitness center (3 dots) • Novelty food • Italian deli/restaurant (3 dots) • East Marion – nothing more • Learning centers (adult) and classes (2 • Office supply store dots) • Bakeries • More transportation (2 dots) • Computing hardware/software • More diverse ethnic restaurants and food • Trader Joes shops (2 dots) • Movies • Movie theatre with more independent • Restaurants with good food films (1 dot) • • Restaurants with ethnic food Internet store/book/interesting magazines • More winery-/farming-related businesses (1 dot) • • No chain stores Broadband and wi-fi areas – intensive for job enhancement (1 dot) Group comments (written on tablets) • Youth services and activities (0 dots) Group#1: • Shoe repair shop (0 dots) • Mom & pop shops (2 dots) • Food co-op (0 dots) • Bus service to hamlet centers (2 dots) • Trader Joes (0 dots) • Don’t want strip malls (2 dots) • Stationary stores – cards, office supplies • Don’t want 7-11 (2 dots) (0 dots) • Don’t want box stores (1 dot) • Self serve car wash (1 dot) Group#3: • • Food co-op (1 dot) Trader Joes (4 dots) • • Shoe repair (1 dot) Avoid strip malls (3 dots) and chain stores • Independent office supply stores (1 dot) (1 dot) • • More small technical stores (3 dots) Butcher (Greenport) (1 dot) • • Bakery (1 dot) Shoemaker, trade stores, jewelry repair (2 dots) • Retail (clothing) (1 dot) • More green stores, seafood (1 dot) • Limit saturation – i.e. number of banks in • Winery and farm-related businesses/green Mattituck (1 dot) grocer (1 dot) • Shoe store (0 dots) • Gyms (0 dots) • Personal services (salon, etc.) (0 dots) • Eco-tourism (0 dots) • Bowling alley (0 dots) • Don’t want fast food (0 dots) 5 How can the town’s downtowns/hamlet centers be improved? Individual responses (written on handouts) Group#2: • Slow traffic/slower speed limits (2) • Benches at the bus stops • Encourage more farm stands (2) • Slower speed limits in village centers • No strip malls • Sitting areas – more pocket parks, • Limit saturation – i.e. banks in Mattituck pedestrian malls • No big box stores • Scenic vistas – improvement • Parking for Hampton Jitney • Better signage • Lift some of the restrictions • Dark sky compliance lighting • Don’t think there should be traffic circles • Library activities • Farmers markets • CSA • Maps for tourists • Signage • Parks Group comments (written on tablets) Group#1: • Parking – for bus, vegetable/food stands, downtown • More walkable communities (it was noted that some in the group do not agree) • Crosswalks • Shuttle bus within hamlets – for errands, appointments, vineyards • Improved bike lanes – kept clean, more of them • Some more street lighting that complies with dark sky standards • Reduced vehicle speed within hamlet centers • Alternative parking for ferry in Riverhead • Youth-friendly centers and activities • Human-scale • Traffic control • TREES! • Sidewalks • Benches • Bus shelters • Bike racks • Bike lanes • Recharging stations • Farmers markets (Southold) • Hildreths • Trolley loop – north fork (it was noted that someone placed a dot next to this) 6 Other comments: • Bring jobs • Better paying jobs • If we want qualitative growth (as opposed to size growth), part of the design needs to be intensive broadband and related communication ability. We are isolated and to participate in a growth in commercial quality, it is vital. 7 Southold 2020 The New Comprehensive Plan for the Town of Southold Website: http://southoldtown.northfork.net/ Email: [email protected] ECONOMIC CHAPTER DISCUSSION MEETING NOTES THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 2010 – 10:00 TO 11:30 A.M. PECONIC LANDING, GREENPORT How long have you lived in Southold? What are the top reasons you live here? • 53 years, wife’s family summered here • 58 years, quaint, serene area with good water activities • 60 years, family business, beauty of area • Not a resident, only work in Southold • 2 ½ years, quality of rural life and its people • 7 years, retirement • 64 years, to preserve farming • Since 1964 (46 years), used to live here because of in-laws and vacation • 8 years, quality of life • Summers since 1958 (52 years), full-time since 2002 (8 years) • Summers for 75 years, full time for 4 years • 8 months, resident of Peconic Landing (lifecare retirement community) • 12 years, quality of life, semi-rural quality • Since 1985 (25 years), visual quality of landscape, neighborliness, small town, open space, water, historic architecture • 23 years, beauty, neighborliness, small town issues • 32 years • 8 years, rural environment • 40+ years, visiting as a seven-year old and decided to live here because of the proximity and distance from NYC, and the cultural and natural environment • 60 years • 7 years, rural nature, resident of Peconic Landing • 3 ½ years, moved to Peconic Landing • 13 years (visitor since 1971), beauty, magic, serenity, incredibly interesting and diverse community • Since 1930 (70 years), also as a summer resident for many years, #1 reason for living here: the magic of place! • 7 ½ years, retired • 6 years, retirement • 41 years, rural character • 7 years, long-term care facility • 4 years • 3 years • 3 years, Peconic Landing attracted us • Since 1928 – grew up as a summer resident year after year, and now live here full-time since retirement, this is paradise and I inherited a home here! Are you a full-time or part-time resident? If part-time, do you alternate weekly (generally here on the weekends and elsewhere during the week), or seasonally (generally here during the warmer months and elsewhere in the colder months)? • Full-time