Annotated Proceedings of the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure ===== DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT===== please do not redistribute April 29 to May 3 2013 National Press Club Washington DC ===== DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT===== please do not redistribute Paradigm Research Group 10 September 2013 DRAFT Joseph G. Buchman, PhD Moderator Table of Contents A note about the annotation of this transcript . i HEARING DAYS Monday, April 29 Morning: Opening Statements, Mitchell, Hellyer, Bassett. 1 History A: Dolan, Cameron, Friedman, Howe . 7 History B. Dolan, Huneeus, Sheehan, French . 40 Afternoon: Rockefeller Initiative A: Greer, Sheehan, Cameron, Huneeus . 76 Rockefeller Initiative B: Cameron, Howe, Greer, Bassett . 108 Tuesday, April 30 Morning: Bentwaters: Pope, Frascogna, Penniston, Burroughs . 137 Afternoon: Nuclear Tampering. Salas, Scott, Schindale, Fenstermacher, Dolan . Wednesday, May 1 Morning A: Various Issues. Davenport, Howe, Heseltine, Robbins. Morning B: Documents. Wood, Howe, Friedman, Cameron. .. Afternoon: Roswell. Schmitt, Friedman, Randle, Marcel, Jr., Marcel III, French. Table of Contents HEARING DAYS (continued) Thursday, May 2 Morning: South America. Gevaerd, Choy, Sanchez, Santa-Maria, Huneeus. Afternoon: Other Nations. Pinotti, Dr. Shili, Cameron, Nick Pope, Huneeus. Friday, May 3 Morning A: Pilots/Controllers. French, Filer, Callahan, Allen. Morning B: Truth Embargo. Torres, Howe, Dolan, Anonymous. Afternoon A: Technology. Wood, Greer, Leir, Valone. Afternoon B: Closing Remarks. Hellyer, Bassett. EVENING SESSIONS Monday, April 29 Evening Tuesday, April 30 Evening Wednesday, May 1 Evening Thursday, May 2 Evening Friday, May 3 Evening EXHIBITS Appendix 1: Biographies of Committee Members. Appendix 2: A brief history of the Citizen Hearing. Appendix 3: Works cited by witnesses and Committee members Appendix 4: Links to media coverage A note about the editing and annotation of these proceedings. This is a verbatim transcript of the audio recorded during The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure held 29 April to 3 May 2013 at the National Press Club in Washington DC, with the following exceptions: The transcription has been edited for clarity. For example, where a witness or member of the committee self-corrected an initial verbal misstatement; or where an abbreviation, diminutive, acronym or similar verbal short-cut was used, the text has been corrected to match the speaker’s self-correction and/or to use the longer, more formal, more easily understood form. Likewise, in some cases honorifics or other identifying information have been added for clarity. Recorded comments not directly related to the Citizen Hearing itself were not transcribed. Where annotated, each annotation is clearly identified and included only as a footnote or endnote to the original text. Additional biographical materials, as well as a short history of the development of the Citizen Hearing, have been included in the Appendices. Time queues are given within parentheses at approximate five minute intervals throughout the text, measured from the opening session on the first day of the Hearing. Any errors are those of the transcriber, Citizen Hearing Moderator, Joseph G. Buchman, PhD. Additions, corrections or suggestions for improvement are welcome by email to [email protected]. Day One Monday 29 April 2013 DAY ONE Opening Remarks (9:00AM to 9:18 AM, Monday, April 29, 2013) Mitchell, Hellyer, Bassett (00:00) Buchman: We will begin with opening remarks by Representatives Bartlett and Woolsey; they will each have five minutes. Bartlett: Good morning. I am Congressman Roscoe Bartlett and this Hearing will come to order. The First Amendment to the Constitution says that the citizens have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. This certainly covers a request to hold a Hearing on this very important subject. Since the Congress has not fulfilled their Constitutional obligation, I am very pleased that I can be here today at this Hearing. We are going to conduct this Hearing just as we would if we were in the United States House with the same kind of decorum that extends to those who are sitting here in the room. I’m sure you have all seen C- SPAN and have seen what goes on in a Hearing in the United States House of Representatives. This will be conducted as closely as we can to the kind of hearings we have in the House. I am pleased to now recognize my former colleague, friend and co-chair this morning, Ms. Woolsey. Woolsey: Good morning everybody; thank you for being here. Look at this amazing crowd. There’s no question there is a lot of interest in this subject. I am Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey. I retired four months ago from the United States Congress. So I am just learning how to do this as a retiree. I am really happy to be a participant and to be able to listen today for the interesting comments and what our witnesses are going to say to us, because it is really nice to have the time and the opportunity to do this. I can tell you though that the very idea of listening to the participants who will speak this week has caused quite a stir in my former district. There’s a newspaper that has covered me for twenty years that hardly ever paid any attention. Well, I made front-page, top-of-the-fold, double print just last week. I thought that was pretty darn good, finally I am retired and they are going to put me top-of-the-fold. Also there’ve been a quite a few blogs with some really weird responses to the fact that I am doing this. There have been emails that aren’t all that Citizen Hearing Day 1 2 positive. But I am telling you, in the overall, people come up to me and say, “I’m so jealous; I’d love to be there. This is so interesting.” It made me really glad that the people I know and live with know how really interesting this week is going to be. And it will be. It is going to be an educational week for sure. I think that all of the participants who are going to be here and I have the honor to introduce the rest of the colleagues who are here today to you. We are, as Chairman Bartlett said, going to be sitting like we are in committee and we are going to pattern what we are doing today after a formal Congressional Hearing. First of all we have with us Congresswoman Darlene Hooley, Senator Mike Gravel, Congresswoman Carolyn Kilpatrick and Congressman Merrill Cook. We are all retired. Among us we have 80 years of experience on the Federal level. Roscoe and I were Congressional classmates; we have twenty years each. (00:05) Our commitment today is as if we were part of a Hearing in the United States House of Representatives. It is our commitment to listen through objective ears, and to ask the kinds of questions that we think that the American people would like us to ask so that they can become better informed because obviously there’s going to be media coverage on this. We would like to make the public more aware and we would like to have a Hearing that could lead possibly to legislation or policy making. So if we are objective, business-like and we stick to the issue, I think that we are going to have a very, very interesting week. First we will have our opening remarks. Bassett: Dr. Mitchell will be brought in on Skype. Mitchell: Good morning all. I am speaking to you from Florida. Unfortunately I had some conflicts so cannot be with you this week. I am a former astronaut; flew to the Moon on Apollo 14, so I have a little bit of off-the- Earth experience. I also grew up near Roswell, New Mexico; a ranch boy. The so-called Roswell incident of 1947 occurred when I was a senior in High School and getting ready to go off to college in the east. I have been interested in this subject for many years. Let me set up the basic credentials. For the first time in our human history, our technology showing us how huge our Universe, or some would call it a Multiverse, is with billions and billions of galaxies, galactic clusters and stars. We’ve identified a Citizen Hearing Day 1 3 few and many of them that could possibly have living beings. We have a history that I am aware of, particularly starting with the Roswell incident, but even long before that, that we have been visited by visitors from different star systems and different planets. Of course, if we continue our endeavors, we will, in due course, be able to go beyond our solar system as well. At the moment our technology is not allowing us to do that, but in due course we will be able to do that, I am quite sure. We must because our Sun will only last a few more billion years. And we are doing things that cause life on this planet to be unsustainable at the rate we are going by using up non-renewable resources. So we have to rethink this whole issue of being here on this planet at this point in time. How do we continue our life here? How do we continue being stalwart citizens of Planet Earth and keeping our civilization going? And eventually be able to leave our planet and go somewhere else. And investigate somewhere else, because we are not alone in the Universe. They have been coming here for a long, long time it seems. The evidence would suggest that we have been having visitors for a long, long time; perhaps hundreds, maybe a thousand years. There are some who would even say that the Pyramids both in Egypt and in South America; that aliens aided us in building those.