MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT Thursday 20 September 2001 Session 1 £5.00 Parliamentary copyright. Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body 2001. Applications for reproduction should be made in writing to the Copyright Unit, Her Majesty‘s Stationery Office, St Clements House, 2-16 Colegate, Norwich NR3 1BQ Fax 01603 723000, which is administering the copyright on behalf of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body. Produced and published in Scotland on behalf of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body by The Stationery Office Ltd. Her Majesty‘s Stationery Office is independent of and separate from the company now trading as The Stationery Office Ltd, which is responsible for printing and publishing Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body publications. CONTENTS Thursday 20 September 2001 Debates Col. JUVENILE JUSTICE .......................................................................................................................................... 2631 Motion moved—[Bill Aitken]. Amendment moved—[Nicol Stephen]. Amendment moved—[Irene McGugan]. Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) ....................................................................................................................... 2631 The Deputy Minister for Education, Europe and External Affairs (Nicol Stephen) .................................... 2635 Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP) ........................................................................................... 2638 Cathy Jamieson (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (Lab) .................................................................... 2640 Phil Gallie (South of Scotland) (Con) ........................................................................................................ 2642 Brian Fitzpatrick (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (Lab) .................................................................................. 2644 Michael Russell (South of Scotland) (SNP) ............................................................................................... 2645 Tavish Scott (Shetland) (LD) ..................................................................................................................... 2647 Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green) ............................................................................................................... 2649 Karen Whitefield (Airdrie and Shotts) (Lab) ............................................................................................... 2650 Stewart Stevenson (Banff and Buchan) (SNP) ......................................................................................... 2651 Nicol Stephen ............................................................................................................................................ 2653 Lord James Douglas-Hamilton (Lothians) (Con) ....................................................................................... 2655 PATIENT CARE ................................................................................................................................................ 2658 Motion moved—[David McLetchie]. Amendment moved—[Susan Deacon]. Amendment moved—[Shona Robison]. David McLetchie (Lothians) (Con) ............................................................................................................. 2658 The Minister for Health and Community Care (Susan Deacon) ................................................................ 2664 Shona Robison (North-East Scotland) (SNP) ........................................................................................... 2668 Mrs Margaret Smith (Edinburgh West) (LD) .............................................................................................. 2671 Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con) ............................................................................................ 2675 Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab) ......................................................................................... 2677 Dorothy-Grace Elder (Glasgow) (SNP) ..................................................................................................... 2679 Iain Smith (North-East Fife) (LD) ............................................................................................................... 2681 Dr Richard Simpson (Ochil) (Lab) ............................................................................................................. 2683 Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) ............................................................................................. 2684 Stewart Stevenson (Banff and Buchan) (SNP) ......................................................................................... 2686 George Lyon (Argyll and Bute) (LD) .......................................................................................................... 2688 Colin Campbell (West of Scotland) (SNP) ................................................................................................. 2689 The Deputy Minister for Health and Community Care (Malcolm Chisholm) ............................................. 2691 Ben Wallace (North-East Scotland) (Con) ................................................................................................. 2694 BUSINESS MOTION .......................................................................................................................................... 2698 Motion moved—[Euan Robson]. Fiona Hyslop (Lothians) (SNP) .................................................................................................................. 2699 The Deputy Minister for Parliament (Euan Robson).................................................................................. 2699 QUESTION TIME .............................................................................................................................................. 2700 FIRST MINISTER’S QUESTION TIME .................................................................................................................. 2716 SCHOOLS (ASSESSMENT) ............................................................................................................................... 2724 Motion moved—[Mr Jack McConnell]. Amendment moved—[Michael Russell]. Amendment moved—[Mr Brian Monteith]. The Minister for Education, Europe and External Affairs (Mr Jack McConnell) ........................................ 2724 Michael Russell (South of Scotland) (SNP) ............................................................................................... 2729 Mr Brian Monteith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) ...................................................................................... 2731 Ian Jenkins (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD) ............................................................................. 2734 Cathy Peattie (Falkirk East) (Lab) ............................................................................................................. 2736 Colin Campbell (West of Scotland) (SNP) ................................................................................................. 2738 Mr Murray Tosh (South of Scotland) (Con) ............................................................................................... 2739 Stewart Stevenson (Banff and Buchan) (SNP) ......................................................................................... 2741 Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab) ...................................................................................................... 2742 Richard Lochhead (North-East Scotland) (SNP) ....................................................................................... 2743 Mr Frank McAveety (Glasgow Shettleston) (Lab) ..................................................................................... 2744 Mr Jamie Stone (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) (LD) ............................................................... 2746 Karen Gillon (Clydesdale) (Lab) ................................................................................................................ 2748 Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) ............................................................................................. 2749 Irene McGugan (North-East Scotland) (SNP) ........................................................................................... 2751 The Deputy Minister for Education, Europe and External Affairs (Nicol Stephen) .................................... 2753 PARLIAMENTARY BUREAU MOTIONS ................................................................................................................ 2757 Motions moved—[Euan Robson]. DECISION TIME ............................................................................................................................................... 2758 SIGHTHILL (COMMUNITY ISSUES) ..................................................................................................................... 2769 Motion debated—[Paul Martin]. Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab) ................................................................................................... 2769 Shona Robison (North-East Scotland) (SNP) ........................................................................................... 2772 Robert Brown (Glasgow) (LD) ................................................................................................................... 2773 Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) ......................................................................................................................