2 THE 'IA"ilTOBA PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER Published by the Association of Professional Engineers of the Province of Manitoba 710-177 Lombard Avenue, Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B OW9 President -W. Saltzberg, P. Eng. Vice-President -R.C. Isaak, P. Eng. Managing Director and Registrar - T.W. Algeo, P. Eng. Council - W.P . Clement, D.E. Cross, ,') K.M. Jardine, R.A. Johnson, F.A. Jost, J.W.J. Lewis, G.W. Swift The Manitoba Professional Engineer is published under the direction of the Bulletin Committee. Editor - R.A. Kane, P. Eng Associate Editor - L.F. Schmidt, P. Eng. Committee Members - E.A. Speers, C.H. Templeton, 0 .A. Rogers, R.F. Piotrowski, S.M. Matile, B.V. Halkewycz, Paul Shane B.A. Faurschou, S.J Armstrong, D.J Frost, G.A. Smith, Correspondents - F.S. Gira, Flin Flon, D.S. Taylor, Lynn Lake­ Leaf Rapids; B.E. Maxfield, Thompson; Production Manager - Loreen Dunklee Opinions expressed are not necessarily those held by the A.P.E.M. or the Council of the A.P.E.M. WINNIPEG, MANITOBA, FEBRUARY 1980 President's Message By Walter Saltzberg, P. Eng. I The success of the last Annual that is the legal requirement to act:. ·/ Meeting and the confidence in Council minister the terms of "The Engineer­ leadership, as expressed at its closing, ing Profession Act." the approval at the Annual Meeting of Whether the Act is being adminis­ the proposed by-law changes and their tered or "enforced" (the latter term is subsequent mail ballot ratification very popular at A.P.E.M. meetings) it would lead me to believe that the surely involves more thanjust granting membership is completely satisfied the right to practise professional en­ with the direction of the Association gineering in this province or disciplin­ and the manner in which affairs are ing erring members. A very important being run by Council. aspect of the Association's responsi­ One could easily become compla­ bility is to make sure that those not cent were it not for the fact that in spite qualified do not practise professional of fairly good support for the engineering. It is in t.he area of Association's activities there is a monitoring these types of violations demonstrated lack of understand­ that the Association has not performed :ng within the membership at large with any degree of success ·in the pa!jt i dbou t the Association's functions The failure to do so is the result i.;.~- and responsibilities. the mistaken belief by a large majority To set the record straight, it must be of Professional Engineers that it is un­ made clear that the Association of Pro­ professional to assert themselves. fessional Engineers has one function Their failure to use the seal as required which overrides any other activity it by the Act or the words P. Eng. in their may sponsor or become involved with, correspondence and title or simply THE '\IANITOBA PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER 3 state I AM A PROFESSION AL The Association can 'and does be­ ENGINEER and proud of the en­ come involved in activities other than gineering profession accomplishments the administration of the Act, provid­ blends the P. Eng. with the maze of ing that such activities are not incon- .Para-professionals, and makes it ex- . sistent with the Act. r ·emely difficult, if not impossible, for The scope and variety of any a( che Association to enforce the Act in tivities depend upon the support ana-· this way. irivolvement of the membership. The How many of our members have payment of the annual dues, be they taken seriously and advised the set at $65.00, $100.00, or $500.00 will A.P.E.M. office of any violations not assure the Association's ability to under the following sections of the administer the Act nor carry out any of Act? its other activities unless they are sup­ 11(1) Only those persons who are ported in an active professional man ~ members of the association or who ner by the membership. have received a licence from the coun­ I urge each member of the Associa­ cil as hereinafter provided, are entitled tion to ask not what is the Association within the Province to engage in the doing for me, nor is the Association practice of professional engineering, performing the way I want it to, put or to take or use the title: "profes­ what can I do, what can I, as an indi­ sional engineer" or any abbreviation vidual member, do to help the Associ­ thereof. am. ation in what should be its prime pur­ 1.9 Except as herein otherwise pro­ pose, that of protecting the public ( .Tided, no person shall knowingly em­ Manitoba. Think seriously on th1 ..... ploy as a professional engineer, or matter and when you have figured out for any work that requires the services what you as an individual member can of a professional engineer, any person do, everything that you can do, to help who is not either a member of the as­ the Association activities, then trans­ sociation or the holder of a licence late the results into actions on your issued under this Act. R.S. M., c. 73, own part as well as into advice and s. 19; am. suggestions to Council. · Council Meeting - November 5th, 1979. By D. J. Frost, P. Eng. This was November 5th, the date The next item on the agenda was the with which some may associate Guy · Salary Recommendation for July 1980, Fawkes' failure in his attempt to presented by Art Round and Nick "blow up" the Houses of Parliament. Fedorchuk. · Due to this I felt somewhat uneasy as Art commenced the presentation by ·p.e proceedings continued, without a apologizing for both the mass 9f' .aahg! paperwork involved, and for son( . 1 2200members of the Association, who · Prior to my late arrival at .5:00 p.m., had not assisted in pro.viding informa­ things had followed the normal course tion for the recomdi.ended salary by acceptance of the minutes of the schedule report, but was quick in his previous meeting, approval of the thanks to the 400 or so members, who agenda, etc. had. THE \IA"l/ITOBA PROFESSIONAL E"IGll'\IEER Nick Fedorchuk continued by journed, presumably for consumption thanking Ted Hassenrueck for his of a 10-year-old vintage wine, offered work in compiling most of the data to the Council members and others used in formulating the report, which present, by Andy Gilliland, in honour ,. ~had among other things established of the retiring President, Dick John-_ \at Manitoba Engineers were lagging son .. behind salaries paid to Engineers in Alberta, by approximately 9%; no Dick Johnson continued with the trend by thanking Andy Gilliland for doubt Nick would like td offer his per­ sonal thanks to Ted, however Ted is his service to the Council since 1974. now working in Alberta, doubtless John Lewis used the intermission as a hoping to confirm his findings. platform for re:election to the Council, receiving some support from Rudy Andy Gilliland expressed concern Isaak. that in relation to the future .growth projected for Manitoba, the recom­ Next, accounts were accepted, and mendation of the Salary Schedule a number of licences, Engineering Committee may not be achievable, Graduates, transfers and registrations and that a further erosion may occur. were approved. At this point a lengthy debate com­ The next item on the agenda was the menced regarding the true meaning of Brief to the Department of Labour "erosion was decreasin.g," to estab­ concerning proposed changes to regu­ lis-h if salaries paid to Engineers in lation 287/78 under the Power En­ ( --1anitoba were lagging, leading, de­ gineers' Act. Discussion revolved. Jelerating or accelerating· towards in­ around a draft letter prepared by Bili flation and the Canadian economy. Clement, stating the general observa--- / Nick offered to clarify that section of tion, concerns and recommendations the report prior to submission at the the Association would suggest be Annual Meeting. made in modifying the regulations to Responding to a question from Ken adjust for recent technological ad­ Jardine, Nick stated that in compiling vances and that the regulations should the salary structure that supply and be evaluated from a safety and effi­ demand for Engineers was not con­ ciency standpoint. Edd Klassen sidered, but it was based largely opened the discussion by commenting that the letter reminded him of a dog upon productivity and inflation. going round in circles looking for a Rudy Isaak commented that since place to "dump it." the report was based upon data re­ Prior to approval of the budget for ceived from a minority, from govern­ 1980 which was estimated to be a ment bodies and large corporations, $13 ,200 deficit, John Lewis questioned that the scales were not, in his opinion, why this had been the trend since 1975. truly representative of the salaries paid Terry Algeo advised that this was '. the private sector. This statement 1 mainly due to escalating postage , riot surprisingly went unchallenged. printing and stationery costs. This Ken Jardine moved to accept the must have alarmed Rudy Isaak who on recommendation, with Andy Gilliland ae optimistic note stated that only 5% requesting that "great thanks" be ex­ of qualified Engineers were not tended to those involved in preparing registered, and that the other 95% the report. The meeting was ad- should be well advised of the \ THE \1ANITOBA PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER 5 Association's new address, if this oc­ yawning, 116 of the 2600 members of curred before March 1st, so that all the APEM staggered through the reg­ fees may be received, which was a istration line in an attempt to reach good 'cue' for entering into the· next the coffee pot, which would help to · ~ubject, revision to By-law 32.