The Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training Foreign Affairs Oral History Project CHARLOTTE ROE Interviewed by: Charles Stuart Kennedy Initial interview date: January 10, 2005 Copyright 2009 ADST TABLE OF CONTENTS Background Born and raised in New York Tarbell and Roe families Leighton Rogers University of Colorado; Sorbonne; Ohio State University Political and social engagement AFL-CIO Entered Foreign Service in 1983 La Paz, Bolivia; Political/Labor Officer 1983-1985 Political climate Government instability Economic crisis Super-inflation Central Obrera Boliviana (COB) American Institute for Free Labor Development (AIFLD) Employer organizations Radical movements Alliance for Progress Coca traditions and drug culture Chicote Grande mine rescue Life in Bolivia Santiago, Chile; Political Officer 1985-1989 Political climate Pinochet regime Human rights and street demonstrations Ambassador Harry Barnes Opposition strategies Letelier assassination Contacts with political parties Civitas voter registration campaign Kidnapping target 1 Allende legend Economy and “Chicago Boys” Ricardo Lagos Plebiscite of 1988 Work and travel in provinces Border issues Transition to democracy Marriage to Hector Gabriel Bravo Tel Aviv, Israel; Labor Attaché 1989-1991 U.S.-Israeli relations Histadrut Cooperative institutions Political polarization Ethnic cleavages International Labor Organizations West Bank Palestinian Trade Union Federation Israeli-Palestinian dialogue AFL-CIO and American-Israel Public Affairs Committee Consulate General Jerusalem U.S. policy toward Israeli settlements Impact of Israeli occupation Yitzhak Rabin assassination Immigration Raid by Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Bogotá, Colombia; Deputy Political Counselor 1991-1992 Security climate Drug cartels Constituent Assembly Trade union fragmentation President Gaviria Guerilla organizations and the peace process Human rights Child labor Assassinations Public response to violence George Meany Studies Center New legal institutions Work in the provinces Travels with family A close call State Department; International Organizations/Agriculture; 1992-1994 Division Chief International Organization Bureau 2 Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) Eduardo Saouma regime Rio Treaty and Agenda 21 Issues with UN Secretariat US isolation and cooperation within the UN Food and Agricultural Mission (FODAG) in Rome Election of Jacques Diouf Sustainable agriculture programs Plant and animal genetic resources The Pope’s influence John Bolton Presidential Directive on Sustainable Development (PRD-12) Country missions in Rome State Department; Oceans & International, Environmental and 1994-1996 Scientific Affairs; Environmental Policy Officer Ecology and Terrestrial Conservation Office (ETC) National Environmental Policy (NEPA) monitoring International Financial Institutions’ (IFI) environmental policies Environmental dimensions of North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Wildlife conservation in Rio Grande valley Texas and U.S. government agencies Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement (PEIS) Move portfolio to Office of Environmental Policy (ENV) World Bank reform issues Treasury Department and Debt-for-Nature Swaps Pangue dam on the Bio Bio in Chile Trilateral talks with Canada and Mexico Council on Environmental Cooperation (CEC) in Montreal State Department; FSI; Hungarian (Magyar) language training 1996-1997 Central and East European (C/EE) studies at Foreign Service Institute Family separation for upcoming assignment Budapest, Hungary; Environmental and Science Attaché 1997-1999 US-Hungary Science and Technology Joint Fund Regional Environmental Center EU accession issues Environmental movement under communist rule Danube dam controversy Ambassador Peter Tufo The Roma U.S.-Hungary scientific cooperation Paks nuclear facility GLOBE agreement 3 International Law Enforcement Academy (ILEA) Ecolinks campaign and green industries Environmental Ministry Climate Change negotiations Ambassador Mark Hambley Networking with non-government organizations (NGO’s) Travel and cultural activities Hortobágy National Park US Mission to the Organization of American States (OAS); 1999-2001 Political Counselor Ambassador Victor Marrero Family expands USOAS-Department of State interface OAS Democracy Promotion Unit (UPD) De-mining in Nicaragua and El Salvador Negotiations for OAS Democracy Fund Peru election observation mission (EOM) Role of Eduardo Stein U.S. Congressional interest 2000 General Assembly in Windsor Vladimir Montesinos and Fujimori Transition to democracy in Peru International panel on intervention and state sovereignty Inter-American Democratic Charter 2001 General Assembly in Lima Reorganizing OAS Committee on Terrorism (CICTE) OAS Declaration on Indigenous Rights Presidential Directive on indigenous peoples’ rights State Department; Senior Labor Advisor, Western Hemisphere 2001-2004 Labor organizations and democratic change Role of U.S. corporations and universities ILO Declaration of 1990 Labor “rule of law” issues Congressional legislation concerning trade and worker rights Guatemala Dymel case Global issues in Western hemisphere Chile Free Trade Agreement (FTA) Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) NAFTA and Mexico National Academy of Sciences Ambassador Noriega Ambassador Zoellick ILO response to 2003 arrests in Cuba Luiz Inácio da Silva 4 Hugo Chavez Growing anti-America sentiment Summary of perspectives: career breakthroughs and Foreign Service calling INTERVIEW Q: Today is January 10th, 2005. This is an interview with Charlotte Roe, R-O-E. I imagine you’ve had all sorts of comments about Richard Roe and John Doe and Jane Roe. Do you ever get that? ROE: Once every so often. Just recently someone who wanted to buy a harp accessory asked me, with trepidation, if I was related to the Roe in Roe versus Wade. One of my passions is playing the Irish harp. I had a silver harp ring that raises the pitch by a half- tone if you pluck the string with the ring against it. The prospective buyer was from deep Bible country in Virginia. The “Roe” handle apparently made her fear she was dealing with the devil incarnate. It reminded me what power a name can confer. Q: Roe versus Wade. You might explain what that decision was. ROE: That was the landmark Supreme Court decision of 1973 that overturned state and federal laws banning abortion in the U.S. Jane Roe was the fictitious name of the plaintiff, so in this context, being Roe means being pro-choice. Q: I should mention that this interview is being done on behalf of the Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training and I’m Charles Stuart Kennedy. Can you tell me when and where you were born and talk about your family? ROE: I was born in Pleasantville, New York in 1942 during the Second World War, in a family of seven – my mother, father, three sisters and our grandfather, Edward Stevens Roe, who lived with us until his death. My dad, Edward Gaynor Roe, was a patent attorney. Dad graduated from Dartmouth College and put himself through New York Law School at night. He never forgot his origins. He was a person of great compassion who hated injustice and identified with people who struggled for a living. He played the cello, had a great booming laugh, loved opera, Irish music, Rogers and Hammerstein and was a fan of Paul Robeson, with whom he once sang. He ran a small law practice on 25 West Forty-Third Street, a one-man law office in New York City that did trademark work for Chase Manhattan, Melville Shoes and other companies. His door was open for low- paying patent work on behalf of countless individual inventors. His big clients wanted him to go corporate, but he was committed to remain independent at any cost. My mother, Eloise Tarbell— Q: How do you spell that? 5 ROE: T-A-R-B-E-L-L. Q: Yes, any relation to the muckraker? ROE: She was a distant cousin of Ida Tarbell who wrote the history of the Standard Oil company, the first of the exposés about robber barons and industrial exploitation — Q: During the turn of the twentieth century. ROE: Yes. Tarbell, Upton Sinclair, and other investigative journalists set the stage for the social and economic reforms of the Progressive era. My mother was raised by her grandfather, Gage Eli Tarbell, a vice president of Equitable Life Insurance Company. His father, Charles, had a small farm in Smithville Flats, New York that was started by our great-great grandfather, and Captain Eli Tarbell, who moved there from Vermont in 1816. Gage bought the land from Charles. When Gage resigned from Equitable in 1907, he modernized and expanded the homestead into a dairy farm that raised purebred Guernseys. Tarbell Farms had one of the largest Guernsey herds in the U.S. They sold milk to many restaurants in New York, among them the Waldorf Astoria and the Oyster Bar in Grand Central Station. Besides the beautiful Guernsey herd, there were Berkshire pigs, Shropshire sheep, Angora goats and many striking breeds of fowl. Tarbell cooperated with Cornell University in applied agricultural research, and employed dozens of farmers, some from Great Britain and Denmark. Tarbell was our haven. We spent every summer on that farm, surrounded by animals and lakes and open meadows. This was where my sisters and I ran wild, rode horses to our hearts’ content, explored the woods and bothered the farm management. When thunder clouds piled up, nothing was better than running to the barns to cuddle with the calves in the hay. Our cousins, Sandee and Sue Tarbell, lived in the neighboring town and were great company.