OAKLAND POLICE COMMISSION MEETING TRANSCRIPT February 11, 2021 Regina Jackson: Good evening, and welcome to the Oakland Police Commission meeting of Thursday, February 11th, 2021. I'd first like to call this meeting to order. It's 5:33 and we're going to do roll call. Commissioner Dorado, are you here? Jose Dorado: Presente. Regina Jackson: Excellent. Thank you. Commissioner Gage? Henry Gage, III: Present. Regina Jackson: Thank you. Commissioner Garcia? Sergio Garcia: Here. Regina Jackson: Excellent. Thank you. Commissioner Harbin-Forte? Brenda Harbin-Forte: Present. Regina Jackson: Excellent. Thank you. Commissioner Singleton? Tyfahra Singleton: Present. Regina Jackson: Thank you, and I am here as well. We have a quorum. At this time, I would like to take any public comment for our closed session. Mr. Rus, I turn it over to you. Juanito Rus: Thank you, Madam Chair. At this time, if any member of the public wishes to make comment on the closed session item on tonight's agenda, please raise your hand in the Zoom queue and you will be called in the order in which your hands are raised. At this time, I see five hands in the queue. Excuse me, while I turn on my clock. The first speaker on this item is Rachel Beck. Good evening Ms. Beck, can you hear us? Rachel Beck: Hi. Yes. Can you hear me? Juanito Rus: We can hear you. Whenever you're ready. Rachel Beck: Great. Thanks. My name is Rachel Beck. I'm a district one resident, and I am just asking if you can commit to waiting until 6:30, the regularly scheduled meeting time, to start open session commenting. That's all. Thank you. Juanito Rus: Thank you, Ms. Beck. The next speaker in the queue is Jennifer Tu. Good evening Ms. Tu, can you hear us? Jennifer Tu: Yes. Thank you. Hi, this is Jennifer Tu from district three. I had a similar question to the previous speaker. I was wondering if we know what time we should expect closed session to end, and for Page 1 of 82 OAKLAND POLICE COMMISSION MEETING TRANSCRIPT February 11, 2021 the open forum to begin since the meeting that switched from the regularly scheduled meeting of 6:30 to the special meeting. I think it would be a really nice courtesy, and if we could know what time to be prepared with our one minute comment. Thanks very much. That's all. Regina Jackson: Mr. Rus. I'll go ahead and answer that question since it's been posed by two people. Thank you very much for your query. We try as best we can to handle our closed session items so that we finish in a timely manner and start our regular meeting at 6:30 there, over the last three years, have been certainly several times where we've gone over due to increasingly complicated matters, but that will be our goal tonight. We intend to start the regular session of our meeting at 6:30 and that's when we will do our open forum. Thank you. Juanito Rus: Thank you, Madam Chair. The next speaker in the queue is Charlotte Ashlock. Good evening, Ms. Ashlock. Can you hear us? Charlotte Ashlock: Yeah, can you hear me? Juanito Rus: We can hear you. You have the floor. Charlotte Ashlock: I'm just calling in today to speak against the militarization of police. I know that there's going to be more discussion of that later, but this was a good time for me to call it. I am really upset that we're even considering keeping the BearCat or using any military items at all against the people of Oakland. That makes me feel like I'm the enemy and I really need to be helped not to be scared. We shouldn't spend money on military equipment. That's my comment. Thank you. Juanito Rus: Thank you, Ms. Ashlock. The next speaker in the queue is Megan Steffen. Good evening, Ms. Steffen, can you hear us? Megan Steffen: Yes, I can. Thank you so much, Mr. Rus. I wanted to say on the closed session lawsuit, that I hope that you don't have to spend too much time on what seems to me to be a really spurious attempt to discredit the police commission and that you all get to take a little break before beginning at 6:30. I also wanted to say that one of the reasons why I have so much faith in this commission and why I continue to fight for the city to give you all more resources. It's because you have built trust with the public by being transparent and being consistent. I hope in the future that when special meetings like this happen, which is pretty often, you all are unlucky enough to have to deal with a lot of lawsuits that the agenda can continue to come out, as soon as possible. This week was a little rough with it only coming out 48 hours beforehand. Thank you so much and good luck with this case. Juanito Rus: Thank you, Ms. Steffen. The next speaker in the queue is Ms. Assata Olugbala. Good evening Ms. Olugbala, can you hear us okay. Assata Olugbala: Yeah. Nobody's talked about the lawsuit. I know you guys are very upset that we don't stick to the agenda, but I read the lawsuit and it's interesting related to measure why it was the determination of the court to the peers that measure why money could not be used for Page 2 of 82 OAKLAND POLICE COMMISSION MEETING TRANSCRIPT February 11, 2021 recruiting, training, and hiring of officers who would not be identified with the community resource program. It also said that the requirement for 800 in I think three offices, did not have to be met in the base staff of 739. I think that the key thing is understanding that officers who are hired in Oakland or minimal staffing officers. We are working with a minimal staff. This lawsuit further determined, some other things that I don't understand how you have jurisdiction over any of these things but [crosstalk 00:10:52]... Juanito Rus: Thank you Ms. Olugbala, your time has expired. The next speaker in the queue is a telephone attendee. The last four digits 9997. Good evening, 9997. Can you hear us? 9997: Hi. Can you hear me? Juanito Rus: We can hear you. The floor is yours. 9997: Thank you. I'm just going to skip the line here and just direct my comments to the commissioners. You are going to have the duty of electing a new chair and vice chair. Well, the last chair has been elected twice. The last few chairs have been mayoral candidates, and I think this has really undermined faith in the commission in general. I think if you elect another mayoral candidate, especially with the kinds of lies and really bad behavior that the mayor has done, and the dishonesty in which he's not taking responsibility for managing the police department, it will be very damaging to the police commission standing among the community. I implore you, please, elect the chair to the commission who is a community appointee, not a mayoral appointee. It's about time, anyway. Thank you. Juanito Rus: Thank you, 9997. The next speaker in the queue is Jasmine Fallstich. Good evening Ms. Fallstich, can you hear us? Jasmine Fallstich: Yes. Thank you. Thanks for taking the time to care. My comments and thanks chair Jackson for answering the question about the ending of closed session. I just want to confirm as we're trying to galvanize people to come to public comment tonight, that public comment for the regular meeting or the remainder of the agenda, won't begin until 6:30. If that sounded like what you were saying, but just want to make sure that, that I heard that correctly. That's all. Thanks. Regina Jackson: Thank you. Yes, I will confirm that we will not start the regular meeting of the police commission until 6:30. Public comment, I imagine, will probably come within the first five to 10 minutes as we will have to take roll call again. Juanito Rus: At this time, Madam Chair, I see no other hands in the queue. Regina Jackson: Thank you very much, Mr. Rus. At this time we have taken public comment. I would like to invite the commissioners to join me in closed session. After that, we will try to be as prompt as possible to get back to start our meeting on time at 6:30. Thank you everyone. (Silence) Regina Jackson: I think we are all back. We can start the next portion of our meeting. Are we ready to go, Mr. Rus? Page 3 of 82 OAKLAND POLICE COMMISSION MEETING TRANSCRIPT February 11, 2021 Juanito Rus: Yes, madam Chair. You're live. Regina Jackson: Great. Thank you very much. Good evening. It is now 6:31. Welcome to the regular meeting of the Oakland Police Commission for February 11th, 2021. I would like to call the meeting to order and go over roll call one more time. Let's see. Commissioner Dorado? Jose Dorado: Present. Regina Jackson: Thank you, commissioner Gage. Henry Gage, III: Here. Regina Jackson: Thank you. Commissioner Garcia? Sergio Garcia: Here. Regina Jackson: Thank you. Commissioner Harbin-Forte? Brenda Harbin-Forte: Present. Regina Jackson: Thank you. Commissioner Singleton? Tyfahra Singleton: Present. Regina Jackson: Thank you. And let's see..