THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT MONDAY 15 MARCH 2021 ENGLISH VERSION HANSARD NO: 201 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. (Opposition Whip) Ghanzi South Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP. Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North Hon. M. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT MONDAY 15th MARCH, 2021 CONTENTS PAGE (S) QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...................................................................................................................1-7 QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE.......................................................................................................................8-9 Appropriation (2021/2022) Bill, 2021 (No. 2 Of 2021) Organisation 0600 - Ministry Of Basic Education Committee of Supply (Resumed Debate)..........................................................................................................10-19 Organisation 2700 – Ministry Of Tertiary Education, Research, Science And Technology Committee of Supply.......................................................................................................................................20-37 iv Hansard No 201 Monday 15th March, 2021 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER Monday 15th March, 2021 (i) when the appointment of the Senior Sub-tribal Authority in Tutume will be done; THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p. m. (ii) contract renewals for Magapatona and Mabuwe (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) Headmen of Arbitration and Nkange Village P R A Y E R S Headman of Records; and * * * * (iii) the appointments of Goshwe and Changate villages Headmen of Records and the Thini Headman of QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER Arbitration. MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Good afternoon ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL Honourable Members. Let us start today’s business with GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT questions. (MR MODUKANELE): Thank you Mr Speaker. Let me also thank Honourable Member of Parliament AMOUNT SPENT ON PRIVATE HOSPITALS Tshabang for the question. MR C. GREEFF (GABORONE BONNINGTON (i) Mr Speaker, the position for Senior Sub-tribal SOUTH): asked the Minister of Health and Wellness: Authority at Tutume should be filled very soon. Let me point out that, we are dealing with this (i) to update this Honourable House on the amount issue, and after we are satisfied with certain things spent so far on patients referred to Bokamoso here and there, we will respond to it as soon as Private Hospital, Gaborone Private Hospital and possible. the Republic of South Africa; What I am talking about Mr Speaker, is similar to the (ii) when Government will have its own radiotherapy issue of the Headmen of Arbitration at Magapatona machine; and which is one of the issues we are assessing and very soon, we would have filled it. (iii) whether apart from assisting cancer patients with chemotherapy, it is not high time they have a clinic (ii) Let me indicate that, as the Member of Parliament specifically for cancer patients, like the ones for has asked about the issues of Mabuwe and th diabetic and hypertension patients at Block 6 in Nkange, they were filled on the 5 February 2021 Gaborone. Mr Speaker. MR SPEAKER: Minister of Health and Wellness! (iii) The issue of Goshwe; let me indicate that, consultations were held at the Kgotla as required HONOURABLE MEMBER: … (Inaudible) … by the law, but after that some of the people of Goshwe were suspicious that these consultations HONOURABLE MEMBER: Are you asleep. were not conducted accordingly. So, we are MR SPEAKER: It seems so. going to carry out those consultations again when the COVID-19 protocols allow. We indicated a HONOURABLE MEMBER: Should he not be few days ago that, we are not able to have these assisted with technology? consultations because according to the Bogosi Act, they have to be held in the Kgotla. We do not MR SPEAKER: We saw him, so we do not know what need 50 people, the Act says if it is Goshwe, then his problem is. Let us move on, I hope he will come the tribe of Goshwe should be at the Kgotla. As back quickly. we know that COVID-19 protocols allow only 50 APPOINTMENT OF HEADMEN IN THE people to be in attendance, this makes it difficult NKANGE CONSTITUENCY to for have those consultations to be held. DR N. TSHABANG (NKANGE): asked the Minister With regards to the Headman of Changate, we are in the of Local Government and Rural Development to update process of filling it. As the Honourable Member knows, this Honourable House on: the sister was acting for the Headman, but now he is Hansard No 201 1 Monday 15th March, 2021 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER back home, and what is left is for us to verify and then can expeditiously so that these positions are filled and the Minister issues a letter. I think that one is clear. we are through with them. Mr Speaker, let me thank you and also thank Honourable MR SPEAKER: Honourable Motaosane. Dr Tshabang for the questions. Thank you Mr Speaker. DR TSHABANG: Mr Speaker, there is the issue of DR TSHABANG: Thank you Mr Speaker. With regards Thini. to the issue of Goshwe and Sub-Tribal Authority, you have long told the people to wait, even today