Second Session - Thirty-Ninth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable George Hickes Speaker Vol. LX No. 13B – 1:30 p.m., Thursday, December 6, 2007 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Ninth Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALLAN, Nancy, Hon. St. Vital N.D.P. ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley N.D.P. ASHTON, Steve, Hon. Thompson N.D.P. BJORNSON, Peter, Hon. Gimli N.D.P. BLADY, Sharon Kirkfield Park N.D.P. BOROTSIK, Rick Brandon West P.C. BRAUN, Erna Rossmere N.D.P. BRICK, Marilyn St. Norbert N.D.P. BRIESE, Stuart Ste. Rose P.C. CALDWELL, Drew Brandon East N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave, Hon. Kildonan N.D.P. CULLEN, Cliff Turtle Mountain P.C. DERKACH, Leonard Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary, Hon. Concordia N.D.P. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. EICHLER, Ralph Lakeside P.C. FAURSCHOU, David Portage la Prairie P.C. GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin Steinbach P.C. GRAYDON, Cliff Emerson P.C. HAWRANIK, Gerald Lac du Bonnet P.C. HICKES, George, Hon. Point Douglas N.D.P. HOWARD, Jennifer Fort Rouge N.D.P. IRVIN-ROSS, Kerri, Hon. Fort Garry N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. JHA, Bidhu Radisson N.D.P. KORZENIOWSKI, Bonnie St. James N.D.P. LAMOUREUX, Kevin Inkster Lib. LATHLIN, Oscar, Hon. The Pas N.D.P. LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. La Verendrye N.D.P. MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns N.D.P. MAGUIRE, Larry Arthur-Virden P.C. MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARCELINO, Flor Wellington N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McFADYEN, Hugh Fort Whyte P.C. McGIFFORD, Diane, Hon. Lord Roberts N.D.P. MELNICK, Christine, Hon. Riel N.D.P. MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East P.C. NEVAKSHONOFF, Tom Interlake N.D.P. OSWALD, Theresa, Hon. Seine River N.D.P. PEDERSEN, Blaine Carman P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.P. ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Rupertsland N.D.P. RONDEAU, Jim, Hon. Assiniboia N.D.P. ROWAT, Leanne Minnedosa P.C. SARAN, Mohinder The Maples N.D.P. SCHULER, Ron Springfield P.C. SELBY, Erin Southdale N.D.P. SELINGER, Greg, Hon. St. Boniface N.D.P. STEFANSON, Heather Tuxedo P.C. STRUTHERS, Stan, Hon. Dauphin-Roblin N.D.P. SWAN, Andrew Minto N.D.P. TAILLIEU, Mavis Morris P.C. WOWCHUK, Rosann, Hon. Swan River N.D.P. 441 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Thursday, December 6, 2007 The House met at 1:30 p.m. Bill 221–The Liquor Control Amendment Act (Liquor Vendor Siting) ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS Mrs. Mavis Taillieu (Morris): I move, seconded by INTRODUCTION OF BILLS the Member for Turtle Mountain (Mr. Cullen), that Bill 14–The Criminal Property Forfeiture Bill 221, The Liquor Control Amendment Act Amendment Act (Liquor Vendor Siting); Loi modifiant la Loi sur la réglementation des alcools (établissement des Hon. Dave Chomiak (Minister of Justice and vendeurs d'alcools), be now read a first time. Attorney General): Mr. Speaker, I'd like to move, seconded by the Minister of Finance (Mr. Selinger), Motion presented. that Bill 14, The Criminal Property Forfeiture Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la Loi sur la Mrs. Taillieu: Mr. Speaker, this bill allows for the confiscation de biens obtenus ou utilisés criminelle- siting of a liquor vendor within 10 kilometres of ment, be now read a first time. another liquor vendor within the 30-kilometre radius Motion presented. of the city of Winnipeg provided that it is in another municipality, which would allow the unique situation Mr. Chomiak: Mr. Speaker, I'm very pleased to in Headingley where the store is 10.8 kilometres one introduce this bill to the Legislature, which is route and 9.2 the other, averaging out to 10. It is a following 15 months of consultation by an expert in very unique situation in the province. This would criminal and gang-related matters, and following the allow a provision which would allow them to be a process now established in British Columbia of vendor. having an internal departmental division doing criminal property forfeiture rather than the police, as Mr. Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt well as other amendments to make the act effective. the motion? [Agreed] The bill is based on extensive consultation. I look forward to the support of all members in the ongoing PETITIONS fight against organized crime. Mr. Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt Waverley West–New School Construction the motion? [Agreed] Mr. Hugh McFadyen (Leader of the Official Bill 215–The Public Schools Amendment Act Opposition): Mr. Speaker, I wish to present the (Property Development) following petition to the Legislative Assembly. Mr. Ron Schuler (Springfield): I move, seconded These are the reasons for this petition: by the Member for Russell (Mr. Derkach), that Bill 215, The Public Schools Amendment Act (Property The government has taken upon itself to develop Development), be now read a first time. Waverley West, a suburb that will eventually be the Motion presented. size of Brandon, without any funding for new schools in this part of Winnipeg. This will ultimately Mr. Schuler: Mr. Speaker, this is the second time put a strain on other schools in the Pembina Trails this bill has been introduced into the House. It deals School Division. with school boards and it clarifies that school boards are not mandated to enter into property development, With the realignment of catchment areas, caused and specifically deals with the Seven Oaks School by this lack of funding, families will be required to Division and the fiasco that took place there with move their children from one school to another. property development. This clarifies the roles and Disruption for children attending southwest duties of the board. Thank you. Winnipeg schools could be harmful for their Mr. Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt education and present a difficult and unnecessary the motion? [Agreed] change for these children and their families. 442 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 6, 2007 We petition the Manitoba Legislative Assembly COMMITTEE REPORTS as follows: Standing Committee on Crown Corporations Second Report To urge the Minister of Education (Mr. Bjornson) and the Premier (Mr. Doer) to consider Mr. Daryl Reid (Chairperson): Mr. Speaker, I wish setting aside land and funds to construct new schools to present the Second Report of the Standing to accommodate the needs of the new provincial Committee on Crown Corporations. government development of Waverley West to allow kids attending schools in the southwest area of Madam Clerk (Patricia Chaychuk): Your Standing Winnipeg to remain in existing schools located Committee on Crown Corporations presents the closer to home. following as its Second Report. Mr. Speaker: Dispense? Signed by Jeff Scott, Carol Scott, Sharmaine Silver and many, many others. Some Honourable Members: Dispense. Mr. Speaker: Dispense. Provincial Nominee Program Meetings Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Inkster): Mr. Speaker, I Your committee met on the following occasions: wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba. Monday, October 17, 2005 (3rd Session–38th Legislature) The background to this petition is as follows: Wednesday, December 5, 2007 Immigration is critically important to the future All meetings were held in Room 255 of the of our province, and the 1998 federal Provincial Legislative Building. Nominee Program is the best immigration program that Manitoba has ever had. Matters under Consideration The Annual Report of the Manitoba Liquor Control The current government needs to recognize that Commission for the year ended March 31, 2004 the backlog in processing PNP applications is The Annual Report of the Manitoba Liquor Control causing additional stress and anxiety for would-be Commission for the year ended March 31, 2005 immigrants and their family and friends here in Manitoba. The Annual Report of the Manitoba Liquor Control Commission for the year ended March 31, 2006 The current government needs to recognize the The Annual Report of the Manitoba Liquor Control unfairness in its current policy on who qualifies to be Commission for the year ended March 31, 2007 an applicant, more specifically, by not allowing professionals such as health-care workers to be able Committee Membership to apply for PNP certificates in the same way a Committee Membership for the October 17, 2005, computer technician would be able to. meeting: We petition the Legislative Assembly of Mr. Aglugub Manitoba as follows: Ms. Brick (Chairperson) Mr. Cullen To urge the Premier (Mr. Doer) and his Mr. Dewar government to recognize and acknowledge how Mr. Faurschou important immigration is to our province by Ms. Irvin-Ross (Vice-Chairperson) improving and strengthening the Provincial Nominee Mr. Maguire Program. Mr. Maloway Mr. Schellenberg Mr. Speaker, this is signed by L. Saul, M. Mr. Schuler Austen, T. Tod and many other fine Manitobans. Hon. Mr. Smith December 6, 2007 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 443 Committee Membership for the December 5, 2007, TABLING OF REPORTS meeting: Hon. Stan Struthers (Minister of Conservation): Mr. Borotsik I'm pleased to provide for the House the '06-07 Ms. Brick Annual Report of the Manitoba Product Stewardship Mr. Dewar Corporation. Mr. Graydon * (13:40) Ms. Howard Mr. Maguire MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS Ms. Marcelino National Day of Remembrance and Action Mr. Reid (Chairperson) on Violence against Women Mr. Saran Hon. Mr. Selinger Hon. Nancy Allan (Minister of Labour and Mrs. Taillieu Immigration): Mr. Speaker, I have a ministerial statement for the House. Your committee elected Ms. Marcelino as the Vice- Chairperson. December 6, 1989, was a horrifying day as Canadians learned of the mass shooting of 14 female Officials Speaking on Record at the October 17, students at l'École polytechnique in Montréal.