Appendix F 20MPH AREA B2 – CONSULTATION SUMMARY Comments Response Gisela Stuart (MP) No response received. Follow-up e-mail sent on 07/10/2016 I am writing in support of proposals to introduce 20mph speed limits on Birmingham’s residential roads to improve safety and reduce the number of accidents. As previously stated in response to the 2013 consultation I think these proposals offer Birmingham an opportunity to become safer for pedestrians and cyclists. Steve McCabe (MP) I do have concerns about clarity for motorists and hope that adequate As these are 20mph pilots, the intension is to see whether information and signs are available to ensure that all car drivers know areas wide 20mph could be delivered simply by installing what the speed limit is on whatever road they happen to be on in signs and lines, thereby enabling us to cover larger areas of Birmingham. the city. However the scheme will be designed to ensure there are sufficient signs and carriageway markings to inform the drivers that they are in the 20mph Area. Bournville Ward Councillors 1. All the side roads off Fordhouse Lane should be 20 mph roads i.e. 1. Fordhouse Lane is proposed to remain at 30mph and Barn Close, The Worthings, Harvest Close, Beilby Road, Windsor Road, the small cul-de-sacs off Fordhouse Lane have been Oakley Road and Dacer Close are all proposed to remain at 30 mph. left at 30mph as they are less than 200m long. In This is ridiculous. accordance with the guidance provided by DFT, the minimum length of a speed limit should be 300m. This will also reduce sign clutter and reduce future maintenance costs. Councillor Timothy 2. Without appropriate traffic calming measures, 20 mph limits on 2. The 20mph Pilot Schemes are limited to Signs and Huxtable main through roads such as Cartland Road, Pineapple Road, Dads Lane Road Markings only. As these are Pilot schemes, they etc will not work. will be surveyed during the monitoring period. Following the monitoring period, an assessment will be carried out to determine if any further measures are required. 3. Safer Routes To School schemes should be built into these 3. The Safer Routes to School programme is funded proposals where the speed limit is being reduced in the vicinity of a through a separate budget; however every effort will be school (e.g. Cotteridge J&I Primary) made to co-ordinate the works. Having looked at proposals I can agree especially Cartland Road Councillor Mary Locke /pineapple road where there continues to be a high number of vehicle incidents damage to property. Councillor Rob Sealey Follow-up e-mail sent on 07/10/2016 Edgbaston Ward C:\Users\TRAAJTHS\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.Outlook\HTNQ212L\Appendix F - Consultation Summary v2.doc Appendix F Councillors 1. At the moment we have things such as flashing speed signs in 1. The introduction of 20mph speed limits is just one Augustus Rd, Richmond Hill Rd, Wheeleys Rd and Gillhurst Rd element of a package of measures to reduce vehicle ( the latter in Harborne). These are routinely ignored by motorists speeds. Reducing the speed limit should not be seen who breach the 30mph limit. If people breach 30 mph, they will as an end in itself, but as part of a continuous process breach 20 mph, unless there is some enforcement. Therefore I to encourage a change in driver behaviour and attitude, ask (and I would like an answer please) who is going to enforce with the aim of establishing 20mph as the default these new regulations (i.e. the police or the Council), how are appropriate maximum speed in residential areas. The they going to do it, and have you ensured they have got the implementation of the physical elements of the scheme resources to do this permanently. Is any of the Council budgets is accompanied by a publicity campaign ‘Slower is being set aside for enforcement or is it all going on Safer’ to persuade people of the benefits of driving at infrastructure? 20mph on residential roads. The campaign will have city-wide reach, but will focus more intensively on the areas where implementation is taking place. West Midlands Police are fully supportive of the campaign and are working in partnership with the Council to Councillor Dierdre Alden deliver a range of education and enforcement elements – including Community Speed watch and roadside education, supported by more targeted enforcement in problem locations and with persistent offenders. This re-education of drivers on the very real dangers of speeding is a vital part of the Slower is Safer campaign. 2. The one road the Edgbaston Councillors have petitioned to have 2. Following the comments Wheeleys Road has been made 20mph is Wheeleys Rd – and yet you have ignored our included in the proposals for 20mph. These will now be requests and the petition submitted to Full Council several years taken through the Statutory Consultation process for ago, and left it in the category of “30mph unless special local the Traffic Regulation Order. Any Objections received circumstances warrant 20mph”. If a fatal accident at the junction during the statutory consultation Process will be of Wheeleys Rd and St James’s Rd, and a subsequent petition reviewed by the Cabinet Member for Transport and by residents and Councillors that both those roads be made Roads. 20mph, does not constitute special local circumstances, perhaps you would be kind enough to inform me what does." I concur with Cllr Alden in every point. It is deeply disappointing that the Following the comments Wheeleys Road has been specific request we have made has been ignored. included in the proposals for 20mph. These will now be taken through the Statutory Consultation process for the Councillor Matt Bennett Traffic Regulation Order. Any Objections received during the statutory consultation Process will be reviewed by the Cabinet Member for Transport and Roads. C:\Users\TRAAJTHS\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.Outlook\HTNQ212L\Appendix F - Consultation Summary v2.doc Appendix F The idea that motorists on many of these roads, Augustus Rd being one The 20mph area pilot schemes and are still in the example, who will stick to 20mph is simply laughable. Do you have any monitoring period following which they will be surveyed data from those wards that have already been affected to show that this during and an assessment will be carried out to determine if scheme has any impact whatsoever? any further measures are required. Councillor Fergus No response received. Follow-up e-mail sent on 07/10/2016 Robinson Harborne Ward Councillors Councillor John Alden No response received. Follow-up e-mail sent on 07/10/2016 Councillor Jayne Francis I have no issues in relation to speed limits of 20 mph on Harborne roads I am only commenting on Harborne ward. I support the 20mph scheme. I feel that certain roads (for example The 20mph Pilot Schemes are limited to Signs and Road Gillhurst) will need more than simply signage to achieve compliance. Markings only. As these are Pilot schemes, they will be Otherwise the split seems sensible. I assume the reason Greenside, surveyed during the monitoring period. Following the Denise Dr etc. will nominally remain at 30mph will be that cul de sacs monitoring period, an assessment will be carried out to Councillor James McKay naturally impose lower speeds? It would be good to get clarification on determine if any further measures are required. this point. Smaller cul-de-sacs which are off a 30mph road will remain at 30mph. according to DFT guidance the minimum length for a speed limit should be 300m. I am copying in my ward colleague, Cllr Francis, and Gisela Stuart MP Moseley and Kings Heath Ward Councillors Councillor Claire Spencer No response received. Follow-up e-mail sent on 07/10/2016 Councillor Martin Straker- No response received. Follow-up e-mail sent on 07/10/2016 Welds Councillor Lisa Trickett No response received. Follow-up e-mail sent on 07/10/2016 Selly Oak Ward Councillors Councillor Brigid Jones My comment would be that Dad’s Lane, Cartland Road and Dogpool There have been previous requests from the local residents Lane act as trunk roads between Kings Heath and Selly Oak, and that to include these roads within the 20mph speed limit. At the given that no schools front onto them, 30 would be better for these. I time it was agreed that these roads will be included in the imagine 20 would be widely ignored on these. 20mph proposals for area B2. On the Pershore Road, at the moment the north 20mph boundary stops The proposals will be reviewed and amended to include the just before Selly Park Girls School. I’d suggest extending it to go past the Selly Park Girls School. As part of the Area B2 proposals, it C:\Users\TRAAJTHS\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.Outlook\HTNQ212L\Appendix F - Consultation Summary v2.doc Appendix F school, just as far as Selly Park Road. is proposed to install variable 20mph speed limits outside schools that are not on a proposed 20mph road. Councillor Changese Khan No response received. Follow-up e-mail sent on 07/10/2016 Councillor Karen McCarthy No response received. Follow-up e-mail sent on 07/10/2016 Key Stakeholder West Midlands Fire Service As under the traffic act Emergency vehicles can exercise their exemption, WMFS support the introduction of the 20mph zones to reduce those killed or seriously injured on the roads of Birmingham. West Midlands Police No response received.