ISLL Papers The Online Collection of the Italian Society for Law and Literature Vol. 4 / 2011 Ed. by ISLL Coordinators Carla Faralli e M. Paola Mittica ISLL Papers The Online Collection of the Italian Society for Law and Literature http://www.lawandliterature.org/index.php?channel=PAPERS © ISLL - ISSN 2035-553X Vol. 4 /2011 ISBN - 9788898010561 Ed. by ISLL Coordinators DOI - 10.6092/unibo/amsacta/5574 C. Faralli & M.P. Mittica Table of Contents José Calvo González, «Odia el delito, y compadece al delincuente». Memoria de Correccionalismo, Antropología cultural y Literatura popular («Despise Crime, and Show Compassion for the Criminal»: Recollection of Correctionalism, Cultural Anthropology, and Popular Literature) Domenico Corradini H. Broussard, Il diritto attraverso lo specchio e quel che Francesca vi trovò (The Law through the Mirror and What Francesca Found There) M. Paola Mittica, Fabbricare il tempo (The Making of Time) Michele Cuccu, Interview with Martha C. Nussbaum Ilenia De Bernardis, Romanzo, natura e diritto. Sul Saggio intorno alla condizione delle donne nello stato civile, ed alle leggi coniugali e sulle Osservazioni intorno alla nuova legge abolitiva de’ delitti di stupro di Galanti (Novels, Nature, and Law: Comments on two Essays by Giuseppe Maria Galanti) Domenico Corradini H. Broussard, Ciò che dice l’Angelo dice la Sibilla (What the Angel Says, So Says the Sibyl) Flavia Marisi, Ermeneutica giuridica ed ermeneutica musicale: una proposta di comparazione (The Interpreter’s Role in Law and in Music: A Comparative View) Francesca Faenza (ed.), Law and Narrations: Issues in Law, Literature, and Other Arts. Abstracts from the Proceedings of the Second National Convention of the Italian Society for Law and Literature, Bologna, June 3–4, 2010 Domenico Sivilli, Anatomia del Mostro. Una riflessione sul Male analizzando “M”, il capolavoro di Fritz Lang (Anatomy of a Monster. A Comment about Evil: Analyzing "M," the Cinematographic Masterpiece by Fritz Lang) José Calvo González, Derecho y Literatura: Anatoliĭ Fedorovich Koni (1844-1927). Sobre Cultura jurídica de la literatura y Cultura literaria del Derecho en la Rusia imperial de Alejandro II a Nicolás II (Law and Literature: Anatoliĭ Fedorovich Koni) Alberto Andronico, Il regalo di Holden. Riflessioni sul dono e sulla cura (A Present for Holden: Reflections on Gifting and Caring) Luigi Alfieri, Sul bene e il male ne Il Signore degli Anelli di Tolkien (On Good and Evil in Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings) Alberto Andronico, “Grande piccolo?” Il problema dell’accettazione (“Big Small?” The Problem of Acceptance) José Calvo González, Bionarrativa de la Justicia en el periodismo literario de César Vallejo (Bionarrative of Justice in César Vallejo’s Literary Journalism) Reviews Lieve Gies, Law and the media – The future of an uneasy relationship, Routledge-Cavendish/ Glass House, 2008, 166 pp. by Maria Francisca Carneiro. Student's contributions M. Bertocchi, E. Bisci, L. Chiuselli, V. Coppola, M.C. Maggio, M. Orazi, G. Ponti, U. Rubino, D(i)ritti fra le righe. Esperienze dal corso di “Diritto e letteratura”, Università di Urbino, a.a 2009-2010 (Rights Between the Lines: Experiences from the Law and Literature Course Taught at the University of Urbino, 2009–2010) “D(i)ritti tra le righe” è l’esito di un fruttuoso corso pilota di Diritto e Letteratura che ha avuto luogo nell’a.a. 2009- 2010 nell’ambito delle attività della Laurea Magistrale in Sociologia della Multiculturalità, presso la Facoltà di Sociologia dell’Università di Urbino. Il volume raccoglie i contributi di coloro che vi hanno partecipato, con l’intenzione di presentare questa esperienza, auspicando il confronto con altre sperimentazioni didattiche, che si stanno svolgendo presso varie università italiane, e tra gli studenti, i quali hanno accolto con autentico interesse le attività proposte. In tal senso gli ISLL Papers inaugurano, con questa pubblicazione, uno spazio che intende accogliere le rassegne dei lavori di L&L nell’ambito della formazione. L’augurio è che i corsi di Diritto e letteratura e di Law and The Humanities possano moltiplicarsi e radicarsi anche nel nostro Paese come sta accadendo al livello internazionale. ISLL Papers - Interviews INTERVIEW WITH MARTHA C. NUSSBAUM By Michele Cuccu (University of Sassari) M. Cuccu: To start I would like to congratulate you and your team for the excellent organization and the interesting papers presented at this year’s conference on the relationship between Law and Literature focused on “Gender, Law, and the British Novel”. This is the second year in a row you have organized a conference on this topic, last year was focused on Shakespeare. Could you give some introductive detail on last year’s conference and this year’s meeting? For example I found the central part of the conference particularly interesting when you, other professors and students played scenes from “The Beaux' Stratagem” and “Mrs Warren's Profession”, the Interlude from Monteverdi’s “L’incoronazione di Poppea”, and also the participation of students in the conference as panelists. M. C. Nussbaum: Yes. The first thing to say is that we had had a longer series of classes on law and literature topics. The law school has a type of course, called Greenberg Seminars, which are informal, half-credit courses, offered in faculty member’s homes. The point of it is to have a more informal type of class that will bring the law students together with the professors in an informal atmosphere. And for about six years, Judge Posner and I had been teaching those seminars on law and literature topics. We did Shakespeare twice. We did Shaw once. We did Greek tragedy once. We did Oscar Wilde. And so the most recent time that we did Shakespeare, we included Richard Strier, who is a scholar in the English department. Copyright © ISLL - ITALIAN SOCIETY FOR LAW AND LITERATURE ISSN 2035 - 553X ISLL Papers - Interviews He helped us with the critical literature on Shakespeare. And because we were enjoying it so much, we decided it was a good time to have a conference. The law literature side of our law school had become more prominent. And so we just thought it was a good time to make it more prominent still. So in consultation with Strier, we invited a bunch of scholars for literature and from law, and the Shakespeare conference was very successful. And we’re planning to publish a book as a result; Strier and I are working on the editing of it. And student papers were involved in that too. Actually, that wasn’t the first time that we’ve had student papers at a conference. The first time we had student papers was a conference on speech, privacy, and the Internet, that I also co-organized, where those papers are coming out as a book with Harvard University Press now. And two of the student papers are actually in the book. So they were really first-rate. The result of that was that we decided that that was a really good feature of a conference, to give the students an opportunity to do scholarship and to have experience presenting their work in front of other people, and so we included that in the Shakespeare conference and then in this one. The theatrical component, well, I decided that we needed some way to get law students to come who weren’t part of this small group that were already studying law and literature. And since our keynote speaker was Justice Breyer from the Supreme Court, that was certainly going get them to come to that panel. But I thought that they would get more involved still if there was a theatrical component. And it happened that Justice Breyer had named three plays that he wanted to talk about in the keynote panel. They were Hamlet, Measure for Measure and As You Like It. And so I thought well, a very good way of getting the audience ready for that discussion is to perform one scene from each of these three plays. Now it happens that Posner is a very keen actor, and he and I had done play readings often. I mean, whenever we held one of these Greenberg seminars, we always had a last meeting that was a play reading. So it wasn’t hard to take the next step and actually do scenes that were fully staged. And of course, then the thing that I had to do was to get more faculty members involved and get them to be willing to memorize their parts. But Posner played two parts. He played Jacques in the As You Like it scene, and he played Polonius in the Hamlet scene. And Justice Breyer was a very good sport: he played the ghost in the closet scene from Hamlet where the ghost makes just a brief appearance. But he was very nice. And he did his job with great good will. And you can certainly see photographs from that, you can just look on our Web site, or I could send them to you, anyway, the whole video of those 2 ISLL Papers - Interviews Shakespeare scenes is available on our Web site1. So that’s how we did it in that conference. And then in this one, I thought, well, that was so successful that we had better do it again. And the only difference was that I got even more people involved because I was getting a sense of which faculty members are really good at this sort of thing. And of course, I think they were really terrific. M. Cuccu: Thank you. Why do you think it is important to discuss and debate the connection between law and literature? M. C. Nussbaum: Well, I think there are a number of things, you know.