Fight or Flight with Cung Le Unofficial Transcript (Explicit Content) B=Show Bumpers DM=Dion Mitchell, Co-host MA=Mehul Anjaria, Co-host CL=Cung Le, Guest B Welcome to the crime redefined podcast produced by zero cliff media coming to you from the US Bank tower high above downtown Los Angeles. In our podcast, we drill deep into forensics and criminal investigation from the viewpoint of the defense as well as explore the intersection of the media and the justice system. DM I'm Dion Mitchell here with my socially distanced co-host Mehul Anjaria. On this episode of crime redefined, we have a special treat for you. We're talking to MMA legend and Hollywood action film star, Cung Le about his new TV project, Flight or Flight-that just might save your life. MA Yeah, as a big MMA fan, I'm really looking forward to today's interview. Cung Le is a former Strikeforce middleweight champion who famously defeated Frank shamrock for that belt. Cung also fought in the UFC and he's been in the ring with the likes of Michael Bisping, Vanderlei Silva, and Rick Franklin. DM Now if you're not as familiar with MMA as Mehul is you may know Cung from the impressive list of movies he's been in, to name a few, Fighting with Channing Tatum, Pandorum with Dennis Quaid, Dragon Eyes with Jean Claude Van Damme and Puncture Wounds with Dolph Lundgren. MA Well, I think we've established that Cung is a tough guy. And so now that we know his resume, it's pretty obvious that Cung’s got the right stuff to bring us a TV show about survival. And let's face it, with all the craziness in the world right now, we really all could, you know, benefit from paying more attention to some basics, like situational awareness, self-defense, and first aid. Like Cung says, you are your first responder. DM Cung has a sizzle reel out for his new and improved version of Fight or Flight. The timing couldn't be better in this age of COVID civil unrest and increasing violent crime Page - 1 - of 19 MA Don't forget the asteroid strike that's coming as well. DM Why not? Let's just get it all in in 2020. Right. Sit back and relax. Enjoy the hour long chat we were privileged to have with Cung Le on a number of topics. MA Cung, it's a great honor to have you on crime redefined today. CL Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to this interview and seeing what you guys got for me. MA Yeah, you know, I've enjoyed watching you fight in Strikeforce and UFC over the years and we really do appreciate your time today. DM We'll make this fun. So let's just jump into it. But let's just set the stage and first of all, tell our listeners what is fight or flight response and what happens to the human body when it occurs? CL Well, fight or flight basically, you're in a situation that could be life or death. Your body responds in certain things like your adrenaline kicks in. And it all comes down to how you react to it, you know, and there's, there's, there's a moment when you might have to fight or you decide, you take flight. So, my show, I've done this show, but I started this show about two years ago. And I got an investor to fund one episode, I actually ended up shooting two episodes out of the funding, but one of my co-hosts who I paid for both shows, ended up thinking that he was bigger than the project itself. And he said that if I had to use if I was going to use his likeness, then I would have to renegotiate with him for back end ownership. So, I decided to scrap the scrap the project and you know, put it in God's hand and when it was the right time to reboot it again. DM You know, those things, those things happen, you know, there is a there's always a giant ego out there somewhere under a rock CL Well, in a way, it's my fault because, you know, when we were doing this show, he was only gonna come on for one episode. And I, you know, we did a gentlemen's handshake. And you know, now I learned a little. Right, I learned the hard way. So, um, you know, I easily could have won in court, you know, but, you know, he's a veteran, you know, he served our country and, you know, whether he decides to, you know, you know, be this way and, you know, I think, you know, you know, a part Page - 2 - of 19 of it is, you know, you know, could be his wife, too. I don't know, whatever the case is, I just moved on, you know, I moved on, and now we got an amazing team the concept is way better. And, you know, so I'm really excited where we shot the sizzle, we edited him completely out of it. And now, we're completely redoing the show. So I told the person who invested my show, you know that I apologize, but I don't want to give him any credit out there. He doesn't deserve it. And, you know, yeah, sure he served our country but, you know, I'm moving on to you know, someone who, who's more, you know, you know, a man of faith. And I know that I put in God's hands, you know, with God for me, nothing can stand against me. So, here we go again, right in the pandemic, right when everyone needs it. And it's time. MA Yeah, it's great timing Cung, I just saw it online last weekend. You know, the reboot is really kick ass. It looks really intriguing. So, tell us about where you're at now, who are your current cast members and what's really the goal of the show? CL Well, um, you know, Chad, He's, uh, yeah, I don't want to give everything away. But Chad he's, you know, 10 year veteran also who instructed for the, you know, seal teams, and, you know, anti- terrorism instructor and did 13 month tours as a, you know, diplomatic protection and and, you know, I got a also someone who's gonna talk about the PTSD and the facts that what, what what a person will feel before the incident and how they can recover and take steps to recover after an incident and you know, I think, you know, it's like the three elements of you got your tactical guy you got your martial artist, you know, world, you know, I've been on, you know, fighting martial arts, you know, on different platforms, different styles, you know, throughout my whole career. I know what works in self-defense, I know what works in combat and I know what doesn't work either, you know, so and then then we have our, you know, family therapist that can work with, you know, like a man or woman or even a child because we're dealing in today's world, you know, look what's going on. Kids are going missing. You know, there's pedophilia going on there's, you know, you know, obviously right now the COVID is, you know, out shining, what's happening to our kids. So, you know, how do we protect our kids? How do we protect ourselves? You know, and when do we fight? When do we run? You know, and I believe that show this show will kick ass. You know, think of Ridiculousness, where in the show, it tells you what not to do. And you know, and it shows funny stuff. And in our show, we show you the realness of the world we live in, and what you could do in these incidents with your skill level MA Well, to that point Cung, I am addicted to your flight or fight official TV IG account. And absolutely one of the most disturbing things on there are the human trafficking scenes. And I understand that Instagram actually shut your site down before Why is that? Page - 3 - of 19 CL I have no idea. You know, we actually pulled a, you know, pull the content off of, you know, other sites, and then, you know, we, we make sure all of our content, you know, is, you know, we, when we post something, it's facts, and there's facts behind it, you know, there's news covering it. So, I don't know, you know, as you as you hear, you know, certain people are controlling the media and when they want something to be out, they they'll let it out when they want when they don't want something they'll red flag you or they'll shut you down. We've been shut down, you know, different times. But with, with all the overwhelming support, you know, I think, you know, and you know, God's Will we're always back on so we are very careful on what we're posting. Now we even have a backup account with 10,000 followers, you know, and I, I feel blessed to, you know, be be the, the the guy behind this, you know the mastermind and putting it all together and I feel really blessed with a great team now, you know, before I felt like, you know, it's like a two man show and we were gonna bring in victims, but now it's about bringing in different specialists because, you know, we can't just focus on one, one person's, you know, something that happened to one person, but we got to focus on what everyone in the world can do if this happened, and since there's footage out there, you know, we will take the footage, we will break it down, and then we'll give you all the different options from, you know, the hand to hand combative, you know, tactical side and then there's the tactical element of, you know, you know, the gun dynamics and, and military mindset and and then when we bring in our special guests we actually even have someone who was a an expert home invader and looks for all the the weak signs and and what they would go after you know someone who would be an easy victim or if they want to, you know, turn up their you know, adrenaline rush then they go after someone who's tougher, you know so we, we break down there's three different kind of predators out there there's a predator that goes after the weak only the weak they will go after and then there's a you know, the spontaneous where oh, you know and opportunities, and then you know, the moments right for them, and they don't care who it is.