206 1 BEFORE THE FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 2 ............................... 3 In the Matter of 4 Investigation into telephone : DOCKET NO- 981941-TL 5 exchange boundary issues in : South Polk County (Fort Meade : 6 area).--------------------_______---. 7 Investigation into boundary : issues in South Sarasota and : DOCKET NO- 98 19 4 1-TL 8 North Charlotte Counties (Englewood area). 9 --------------------_________-. Request for review of proposed: DOCKET NO- 990223-TL 10 numbering plan relief for the : 941 area code. 11 ............................... 12 VOLUME 2 13 PROCEEDINGS: HEARING 14 BEFORE : 15 COMMISSIONER E. LEON JACOBS, JR. 16 DATE : 17 TIME: Commenced at 10:20 a.m. 18 Concluded at 6:40 p.m. 19 PLACE: Sarasota County Administration Center County Commission Chambers, 1st Floor 20 1660 Ringling Boulevard Sarasota, Florida 21 22 REPORTED BY: JOY KELLY, CSR, RPR FPSC Division of Records & Reporting 23 Bureau Chief, Reporting . _..-- .. ' ,.-., 9'; I*!S :"5:.. 24 APPEARANCES : (As heretofore noted.) '* OY 857 25 FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 207 1 INDEX 2 WITNESBEB - VOLUME 2 3 NAME PAGE NO. 4 THOMAS C. FOLEY Continued: 5 Cross Examination By Ms. Burton 209 6 Cross Examination By Ms. Schneider 212 Cross Examination By Mr. May 222 7 Cross Examination By Mr. Heaton 224 Cross Examination By Ms. McKinney 224 8 Cross Examination By Mr. Minix 232 Cross Examination By Mr. Rehwinkel 237 9 CHARLES MICHAEL SCOBIE 10 Direct Examination By Ms. Caswell 253 11 Prefiled Direct Testimony Inserted 255 Cross Examination By Mr. Minix 263 12 Cross Examination By Ms. Burton 267 Cross Examination By Ms. Schneider 267 13 Cross Examination By Ms. McKinney 268 14 MAC V. HORTON 15 Direct Examination By Ms. Burton 274 Prefiled Direct Testimony Inserted 278 16 Cross Examination By Mr. May 289 17 WAYNE P. SALLADE 18 Direct Examination By Ms. Burton 291 Prefiled Direct Testimony Inserted 296 19 Direct Examination By Ms. Burton 300 Prefiled Direct Testimony Inserted 305 20 Cross Examination By Mr. May 308 21 SHANNON H. STAUB 22 Direct Examination By Ms. Schneider 310 Prefiled Direct Testimony Inserted 318 23 Cross Examination By Mr. Minix 323 24 25 FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 207 -A 1 WITNEBBEB VOLUME 2 CONTINUED: 2 GREGG D. FEAGANS 3 Direct Examination By Ms. Schneider 324 Prefiled Direct Testimony Inserted 331 4 Cross Examination By Mr. Minix 335 Cross Examination By Mr. Rehwinkel 337 5 Cross Examination By Mr. Heaton 340 Cross Examination By Ms. McKinney 342 6 WILLIAM W. COUCH 7 Prefiled Direct Testimony Inserted 345 8 Into the Record by Stipulation 9 WILLIAM H. BROWN 10 Direct Examination By Mr. May 349 Adopoted Prefiled Direct Testimony 11 of R. W. Burleson Inserted 352 Adopted Prefiled Rebuttal Testimony 12 of R. W. Burleson Inserted 356 Cross Examination By Ms. McKinney 360 13 Cross Examination By Mr. Minix 370 Cross Examination By Ms. Schneider 378 14 ARWYN MAKER 15 Direct Statement 381 16 JIM WATTS 17 Direct Statement 385 18 JOHN FELLIN 19 Direct Statement 386 20 21 22 23 24 25 FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 208 1 EXHIBITS - VOLUME 2 2 NUMBER ID. ADMTD. 3 4 7 251 8 (Composite) Transcripts from 252 252 5 Commission Workshops in Englewood, Bartow, Ft. Meade 6 and Sarasota 6 252 7 9 CMS-1 254 273 8 10 (Composite) Mac Horton's 283 287 packet on alternative plans 9 11 (Late-Filed) G. Feagans 344 10 emergency service area map 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 209 1 PROCEEDINGS 2 (Transcript continues from Volume 1.) 3 THOMAS C. FOLEY 4 continues his testimony under oath from Volume 1: 5 BY MR. REHWINKEL: 6 Q Thank you, Mr. Foley. Do you have any 7 summary remarks to make before I turn you over to 8 cross examination? 9 A No. 10 MR. REHWINKEL: Mr. Foley is available for 11 cross examination. 12 CHAIRMAN GARCIA: Thank you, Mr. Foley. 13 We'll start with Mr. Minix. 14 MR. MINIX: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to go 15 ahead and pass at this time. But if I do find some 16 clarifying questions, I'd like to have the opportunity 17 to do it a little later. 18 CHAIRMAN GARCIA: All right. We'll consider 19 that a little later then. Ms. Burton. 20 CROSS EXAMINATION 21 BY MS. BURTON: 22 Q Yes. Mr. Foley, in your testimony on 23 Page 20 you had referred to the Englewood request, and 24 I believe when this was prefiled this was before the 25 consolidation of the dockets? FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 210 1 A That's correct. 2 Q Could I ask why you were including this 3 reference in the prefiled testimony for the 941 docket 4 at this point in time? 5 A It was my understanding at the time that the 6 Englewood request was asking basically for some 7 modification of the boundary, the industry consensus 8 boundary and a boundary change would have a direct 9 impact upon the relief activity and possibly the 10 relief interval. 11 Q You also mention in your testimony that it 12 can be very problematic for the service provider 13 companies to have an area code split that does not 14 follow the lines of a specific exchange. 15 Are you aware that the Public Service 16 Commission Staff has revised one of the alternatives 17 in Exhibit No. 2, and I believe it's -- they are 18 Alternative No. 3, that for Charlotte County adds some 19 land in DeSoto County because that's part of the Punta 20 Gorda exchange and deletes a small portion of -- oh, 21 I'm sorry -- (Hands document to witness.) Alternative 22 No. 3? 23 A Yes, I have that in front of me. 24 Q Looking at Charlotte County, that the Public 25 Service Commission Staff had altered the original FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 211 1 Alternative 3 that had been presented to the counties, 2 or to the parties back at the March 26th workshop in 3 Englewood, so that there were three changes actually 4 made to the Charlotte County boundaries. One is to 5 extend the northeastern boundaries of the county of 6 the new area code into DeSoto County to allow the 7 Punta Gorda exchange to stay together. Another change 8 was to extend the new NPA in the southern part of 9 Florida up into Charlotte County so that the North 10 Fort Myers exchange can stay together. And then I 11 believe the other change was to extend down and 12 include Boca Grande, the other part of Boca Grande 13 thatls in Charlotte County? 14 A Yes. That would keep the exchanges 15 together. 16 Q So with that change, with that particular 17 change, would you have any objection to Alternative 3? 18 A No. 19 Q Likewise, would you have any objection to 20 another alternative which, as far as the exchange 21 lines concerning Charlotte County, follow the same 22 lines as are depicted in Alternative 3 for Charlotte 23 County -- and I realize we're only speaking for 24 Charlotte County. 25 A If youlre referring to modifying the plan to FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 212 1 include or exclude whole exchanges, I think whatever 2 the Commission decides as long as it includes entire 3 exchanges would be acceptable. The problem with 4 splitting an exchange means that some customers, some 5 percentage of customers, depending on where the slice 6 is, of course, would have to take a full telephone 7 number change. 8 Q Thank you. 9 MS. BURTON: I have no further questions. 10 CHAIRMAN GARCIA: Okay. Ms. Schneider. 11 CROSS EXAMINATION 12 BY MS. SCHNEIDER: 13 Q Mr. Foley, do exchanges generally cross -- 14 one exchange generally cross county boundaries? 15 A Sometimes they follow political boundaries. 16 Most always they follow geographic boundaries. 17 Sometimes they have been put there and history has 18 dictated where they are based on some growth patterns 19 and things like this. They don't normally follow 20 county lines, although there are a number of 21 exceptions where they don't follow county lines. They 22 generally try to follow county lines if that's at all 23 possible. 24 Q Do you know if with respect to the Manatee, 25 Charlotte, Sarasota area if exchanges cross any of FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 213 1 those? 2 A Yes. There are several -- I can't speak 3 specifically to Manatee and Sarasota County. It's not 4 our service area. But in the case of Charlotte 5 County, Port Charlotte exchange sticks into DeSoto 6 County; part of Punta Gorda is in DeSoto County; part 7 of North Fort Myers into Charlotte County, with the 8 bulk of North Fort Myers exchange down in Lee County. 9 I believe that Boca Grande transends two counties, 10 Charlotte and Lee Counties. And I think that's about 11 all of them, I think. 12 Q Okay. So if that area down at the southern 13 end of Charlotte were included in a different split 14 that area that overlaps into Lee County, and DeSoto 15 was included in a Manasota -- Manatee, Sarasota 16 Charlotte configuration -- I'm sorry, GTE didn't go up 17 that far. That's right. 18 But -- okay going back to Charlotte -- 19 A We have DeSoto County. 2a Q If DeSoto were included in a Manatee, 21 Charlotte and Sarasota combination, in that those 22 exchanges at the lower part of Charlotte were in a 23 different area code, that wouldn't present a problem? 24 A No.